Biggest Combine Showdown: John Deere X9 vs Fendt Ideal vs Claas Lexion
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The Prairie State Tractor crew heads out to the fields for a friendly combine harvesting competition between neighbors in Central Illinois. Three twin rotor combines: the John Deere X9 1000, Fendt Ideal 9T, and Claas Lexion 8800 are put through the paces and we go panning for golden corn kernels.
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Equipment Featured in this Video:
🔑 John Deere X9 1000 with 16 Row John Deere Head
🔑 Fendt Ideal 9T with 12 Row Geringhoff Corn Head
🔑 Claas Lexion 8800 with 16 Row Maya Corn Head
Combine Loss Drop Pan Sampling Results:
🎯JD X9 Test 1 | 0.04% | 0.10 bu/ac
🎯JD X9 Test 2 | 0.12% | 0.29 bu/ac
🎯 Fendt Test 1 | 0.26% | 0.62 bu/ac
🎯 Claas Test 1 | 0.71% | 1.70 bu/ac
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To be fair, any combine can be set for no loss. It just depends on how dirty of a sample you want. The comparison for loss is only useful if you also compare the grain quality and foreign material in a sample. I like what you put together, but in the future I'd say you should consider the sample as that will truly tell how each of the machines are performing relative to their loss.
Was thinking exactly that the whole time. Yelling at my screen "lets see what a sample looks like"
Exactly right. Any farmer worth his salt immediately wanted to look in that grain tank for a sample. It's always a balancing act of what's coming out the back end vs what's going in the bin
I agree with you exactly, what was done here was not a controlled scientific experiment.
Well that’s why there comparing all three combines in the same field so it’s a fair comparing ;it looks like the John Deere has the best engineering. John Deere always has more money in there engineering none of the other brands like Claas and Fendt don’t even make their own engines . The John Deere 18 liter engine is engineered to last 20 thousand hours and no brand is going to beat John Deere !
@@craigmartin6826 lmao Deere is known in the industry to have some of the least fuel efficient engines.
So many people are biased in favor of the brand they own and use. Brand loyalty is quite strong. Takes a lot to change anybody’s mind. Also, so much depends on the dealer service and support which obviously is very important regardless of the color of the equipment. I find videos like this interesting but base my buying decisions on my own personal experience on my farm, crops, local support etc. Best to all of you.
In Western Canada alot of JD farms have switched to Claas combines for far less grain loss in small grain crops and canola.
The X9 as well is having alot of reliability issues. Members of the family fix the X9 professionally.
40,000 acre farm that we combined right beside and the service trucks are out steady married to the X9's
The Claas is much cheaper on fuel and extremely durable in tough conditions when the others have to shut down for the night.
Obviously the X9 was developed for corn not small grains. Capacity was high but grain losses were super high in our area even with a crew of JD people out setting and tweaking the demos.
Funny, I always see the Claas service trucks out at their combines in the morning.
The X9 does have issues, but no worse than others.
I have a friend that had a Class and every day he had a electrical issue.
Traded it to a X9.
@@westmanguy01 I combined one whole harvest with another brand and was amazed how little they needed repairs in my observation. This year they had 4 claas lexion combines in the group and never saw the repair service truck all fall on a very large farm.
@@Hoserfishing No Class parts department close by here.
Blow a belt, 80 mile drive to a Class parts department.
Jd dealership with a great network and shop within 3 miles for us.
And for throwing grain out, seems like the Class is no better than JD or CaseIH here.
The X9 is having growing pains, just like IH had with their first rotor and NewHolland did with theirs.
All combines are designed for corn because thats where the bushels and the market is.
I've seen the John Deere X9 with the side panels off and it looks like a nightmare to maintain. I've never seen so many drive belts in my life.
just look at the mess of hoses and belts on that x9 lol.. they clearly rushed that to market with how many issues they are having with it.. not even close to worth the 1.2m when it can't do as good of a job as the claas or new holland
Im green n yellow 44years now but when it comes to harvesting... Claas all the way from 27 years experience in most colours. And so many variables in set up from operators. Any machine is only as good as it's operator.
Cool video, but….. it’s one thing to throw a sample pan down and say- “ so this is the loss from combine X”… but how clean is the tank sample? Adjust sieves, fan speed, etc to see if you can lessen the amount it throws over? That’s what good operators would do. How low can you get your losses and still get a clean sample? I don’t know any operators who just drive through the whole crop without adjusting, and “oh well, what it loses it loses, but I’m doing 5.5mph!” Not a real accurate demo in my mind.
And this Video ist done by a John Deere seller...
Btw the John deer automatically reads and analyzes loos and grain tank sample and adjusts to it automatically. That's what deer is the best, it's technology is far superior from any other company. And I'm also in favor of Case so that's saying something.
@@dallenbreaux7667 thats exactly what everyone else does, CNH, Fendt, Claas... John Deere is not leading in technology, they never did.
Wow the impressive part is taking that much corn away and elevating or storing it. That’s 48 rows at 5mph. Roughly. Incredible what’s possible. Makes the old 9650 seem small
Hmm yeah 15:28 two JD sales men telling me they're one is better suuuuure. Claas arent idiots in this game.
It would drive me insane to drive the combine straight and have the Deere logo upside down on the steering wheel! My OCD!
when reading the comments one can see that most people are already convinced which combine is the best before any real comparisons even start. One should always buy what you want, because if you dont like it, the only one you can blame is yourself.
Was the grain tank sample clean?
Would have loved to see a Case in there
The 9250 is a smaller combine so you can not compare with these. Need to wait for the AF10 combine..
@@pompy65the 9250 has just as much HP as an x9 1000…I’ve ran against one and the 9250 easily keeps up while still being considered a “lower class”
Why wasn't there an Ideal 10T on that field?
What are the samples then we can see which is really best.
I wish theClaas would be the better out 3 but John Deere are on totally different plain then Fendt, is A.G.C.O competition to go on U.S market but love Claas . We had Black machine on demo and really had relocating between field issues!
Claas is the better of the three?
It’s hard to tel when you have a JD guy driving there machine and then just farmers driving their own. It’s a nice video but I’d not make my opinion on this.
The claas can throw out way less. Farm in our area did the tests against the x9. The lexion beat it across the board in sample, fuel, and loss. The salesman wasn't involved to make it biased. The x9 was impressive but that farm went from running deere to lexion machines
Caseys does have good pizza !!! Every town in Iowa, Kansas and Nebraska has a caseys
Вig machines, cool machines- monster drives.
Need a cnh in the middle, new holland cr9 is very capable. And Case is the best at corn
where the heck is the new holland, the progenitor of the twin rotors??
Not going to lie but the fendt combine reminds me of Darth Vader
What had the cleanest sample?
I love that x9 John Deere
sure but did you see how many cobs were in the x9 bin? lmao they sieves are likely wide open, we all know the john deere has the worst fuel consumption and grain loss of these 3
I'll take the Fendt or the Claas over the John Deere any day
Right up until you realize the fendts break down constantly. Every person I knew that had an ideal has sold it off do the same issue every time too much maintenance!
@@deannelson9565nope my work have one and never had a problem with it we have it over 3 years now
The wildlife also need food. Ducks and geese eat up combine loss, and then provide food for hunters who survive on wildlife. So, nothing is loss.
Let ssee a comparison on a 10% or more slope.
fendt ideal class combines are the ones to beat😊👍👍
Haha
Ya just arent allowed to work on your own JD. Its a big thorn in thats just waiting to stab every owner.
I’ve never seen a fendt run that long without breaking down.
Yeah fendt shouldn't be allowed in any contest at this point until they figure out how to make a piece of equipment that last longer than a day and a half without a breakdown.
Sounds like an 860 Massey
@@DanMcAdam950the fendt and massey agco combines are exactly the same
Well if you don't have an idiot and you have a good operator who knows how to run a fendt they are quite robust
@@dannymjcr no they're not! They are famous for how much they break down! If you run a Fleet the 5 to 10 of those things you're almost guaranteed to have one to three of them down at any given time! So a lot of the fendt guys are switching over to the X9 series from John Deere. If Case ever makes a combine bigger than a class 9 they'll probably out sell them as well!
And how. Did he. Work out that lost on the. JD. App. For. Both machines. Wow. JD. Must. Have every ones. Machine
How are your allergies after that?😅 Awesome video, thanks for the great content you have been putting in your videos!!
😂 still in recovery mode
Should have brought out the New Holland that John Deere used as a template for their dual rotor system.
These combines make shareholders money. Thats all they are designed for..
Are the new chairs from By the Yard?
We got rid of our 2 8700’s this summer and our glad they’re gone. Has been a headache the last 3 years with the machines and claas themselves. Almost done with ‘23 crop and love our 2 s780’s
Can the S780 do just as much as the 8700??
Bro says Illinois just like Darren Dailey😭
You need to have the Nexat combine there to have a proper test compared to the rest.. 50ft 1100HP monster
They’re still testing it not for sale..
Put a big red 9250 or Gleaner into the mix .
I own red but the 9250 is outclasses by these other ones.
And I’d take a cr 9.90 or 10.90 over all 3 of those!!! Try coming to Canada doing canola!! Any of the brands can build a combine to do corn but come to Canada combining canola and you’ll see the claas, fendt and x9 can’t do near the job in canola that the NH cr’s do!!
We demoed a cr 9.90 in canola against our massey 9565’s and ideal 10t’s and the canola sample n the 9.90 was worse than the massey and we were running the so called automation settings but all it did was turn the fan up and blow canola out the back. We were impressed at all. The nh salesman told us that cr would blow past the fendts. Did the exact opposite lol. .25 loss on the ideal going 4-5mph in 60 bu/ac canola .4 with the massey at 3-4. And new holland trying to keep up to the ideal at 4-5mph was .6 loss but once we slowed the new holland down to 2-3 it was .2
@@rileyburka looks like they didn't set it right . The cr and lexion are much better than Deere or agco brands as far as the machine itself. I've seen it with my own eyes in the elevator and NH hands down best sample along with case ih. Lexion are corn kings ,case NH small grain kings.
@@MRSludgedude only excuse u got eh. We had it in the automation and fooled around with settings all day with our sales man riding with him for most of the day trying to clean the sample up and have good losses but sadly on a new holland they don’t have enough separation area like a fendt or claas. So when we cleaned the sample up it was blowing it out the back. Needless to say we will never see another new holland at our farm they arnt everything u nh boys say they are lol
@@rileyburka well it really comes down to who's going to get out to the feild fast wen your down. We run 2 old 9600s and most break downs we can fix in a few hours and if not they are there as fast as 123 with parts. But yea in the elevators I worked the case ih and NH had the cleanest sample. Lexion guys had so much FM we rejected some. It could just be the operators having no clue or support to set them up right. Rotary Deere guys always have an ok sample as well. I have no idea myself what the NH crew is doing to get clean grain like that. I was shocked to see 3 lex farmers bring in more FM than grain . I'll have to go up there and ask. We got it all shucked and plowed yesterday. Good luck though and have a good winter.
Nobody gives a shit about canola in Canada!
But the John Deere had tires.
Lol now go look at the sample in the hopper bet claas is way cleaner you take that grain from the junk deere anywhere you'd get docked 20% foreign material
New Holland 10.9?
Bunch of Deere boys making a comparison video.. Could this be more Bias?
The testing speaks for itself does it not?
@@davidwilson1107 Well, the event is sponsored by Deere, if you know what that means ... As far as I am concerned, Claas combines normally do way better in corn than the rest. And let's not talk about the Deere's sample, because without sacrificing throughput, it's horrible - especially in canola.
#fendt #claas
Where at in Woodford county?
Roanoke
awesome video, the one we've all been waiting for. x9 remains the machine to beat
Not a hard one to beat since it was designed to complete with second gen 700 series Claas machines, unfortunately for Deere the Claas 7000/8000 series introduced themselves lol
@@Zero01k yeah, ok
In my opinion you had the John deere winning b4 it ever started
Bom dia a todos sou do Brasil como faz pra trabalhar aí amigo sou operador mecânico
John Deere has a bit farther to go to catch up to a Fendt. John Deere had to wait for the patent to expire on the Fendt Ideal technology before they could copy the Fendt design. That is why Deere is nine years behind Fendt when they came out with the X9. You just can’t beat German engineering and design technology. The Fendt Ideal combine is #1 in the world and the Deere people know that to be true.
I'm not impressed with German engineering. I like their tools. But, if you're talking cars or at equipment... It's almost always over-complicated.
Where’s the Fendt rep????🤦♂️
They’re there. There was 3 of them
@@prairiestatetractor operating combine we take it 😳😳.
@@fasterdura1772 one of our customers
@@prairiestatetractor I called it before running through the comments. This is a sponsored run by Deere. 🤦♂️🤦♂️.
Helps. When you Chuck the. One. Pan only and. Close to. The. Wheel. Cause. The. Spread. Shooting. Out. Past it more cause John Deere looks better and to me. Its. About the same. What. The ideal. Loses in. Profit JD. Charges in. Soft wear and then add on down time to the. Top of that. The x9 cost you more in the end
X9 has by far the best cab and display setup! Can't beat john deere
except it sits half the season in repairs :)
oh yeah
A10T compared to an X9 is apples to apples a far as size goes but then the Fendt would pull ahead in all categories. Remember the technology was all proprietary to Fendt since 2014.
@@allannantes8583fendt combines are known to be terribly unreliable though, I’ve heard of a lot of people having issues with them.
The losses test is pretty much meaningless with only 1 sample. With one sample you have no idea what sort of variance you have in the tests and therefore can't hope to generate accurate statistically significant results.
Would be interesting to see this done more thoroughly, but unfortunately as is it is practically irrelevant.
If the john deere combines could compete with the Claas and new holland they wouldnt be outsold 4 to 1 in most of europe. My brother has gone to america on a harvest tour and the x9 spends more time being fixed than working!
oh is europe where the worlds corn is grown? probably operator stupidity if thats the case. 🤡
If you have a Claas dealership and servicing close, there is no question what to get.
John Deere always has the best quality when it’s engineered.
Where’s the Case IH
They are the latest models , case new big combine is still not released yet
Lmfao, that data means absolutely nothing. You really can’t be serious thinking throwing a tray under the out chute gives you a comparison
Big black polo stud says ummmm 3000 times and then throws his pan dead nuts into the back tire cuz his mom told him not to get ran over after he ate his captain crunch that morning.
@@stirv6462 lots of jealous assholes on here
Give me a john deere
I'd take the fendt products over deere
Fendt operator: Look I’m doing 35 mph pulling a full forage box.
Fendt operator as he pulls a hill:
Look. There goes an Case IH and a Deere passing me.
A X9 and a Lexion 8800 is slightly in a higher level than the Ideal 9T, bring a 10T out there and you'll see who is the corn king
Would have loved to have the biggest of all 3 manufacturers but we didn’t arrange this. Just sort of came together 👍
The X9 1100 is the corn king.
The claas is still the corn king
Well from their tests we know Claas is out of the game.
Gleaner is cleaner
The CLAAS is feeding the dear
Prueben con una Nexat
This has to be one of the most biased combine videos I’ve seen lately! Totally shit
Bean head
X9 junk
Don’t help u have deer guys doing the calculations etc who knows what there actually grabbing and typing in lol.
John Deere junk.
Did the fuel tank blow like on most X9’s?
🤨
Ask Mike Mitchell how he feels about Fendt combines ... No one has more experience with them than him and his family 😁
@@Jorrie86 he’s not the only farmer trying out equipment
It is VERY sad to say. But you have no clue how to use pans 😢
We make no claims of being good at it 😄 Just thought we would share our results. I'd check out Pami's results: pami.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/A19108W_Wheat_Final_PAMI_Apr-15-21.pdf
@@prairiestatetractor please visit Zweibrucken, and ask Peter Botcher for a lesson.
yep... pans drop between front and rear wheels... you have to be quick!
@@prairiestatetractor
All I have to say is he said that every combine there had Company Representatives there and pans were all done the same way and they said they done serval samples for each combine and they were adjusting each machine if you listened to the operator