Hey, NedSync! I like your work man! I mean I know it's probably a few people, and at least two on screen, but the main guy. Spent a lot of hours procrastinating to your content :)
NerdSync Thank you. This is an informative presentation, providing an excellent overview of Kant's ideas and logical process in obtaining them. Excuse my departure from the content, but this video is unique in my experience because it is the first and only one that does not have a thumbs down or negative comment by a transient troll. I am proud to be the 80th like!
I needed this!!!!!!!!! I'm trying to understand this for my sociology course and the material explains it in the most wordy, unnecessary way. Thank you
I just want to add a different look on morality, which I discovered while reading C.S. Lewis. (His book- Abolition of Men talks primarily about morality, really good book)To find out morality, you actually can't base it on logic, hear me out. If some guy threatens to kill your entire town if no one volunteers to sacrifice himself, what do you do? (No cheating, this is hypothetical). First ask yourself what it the logical and the moral thing to do. The moral thing to do is to sacrifice yourself, because it helps your town out. Yet that is not logical. The logical thing to do is not sacrifice yourself, because you are gonna die anyways, and hope that someone else does so there is a bigger chance of you surviving. thoughts?
I love this video, it is like listening in on a conversation with my peers at the university. This channel is beautiful. I wish you luck and happiness! And thanks for the video :)
In a world where my professor talks entirely too fast during lectures, this video was a LIFE SAVER. The concept was explained clearly and thoroughly. Many thanks!
I have learned so much from you. You're great at explaining things to people to help them understand the concepts. The only issue I have, that I am an audial and visual learner so adding words or pictures would help me and I'm sure others to learn easier. Thanks for all you do and keep rocking the Philosophy!! Great work! Thanks.
Well nuanced and nuances punctuated clearly and concisely. The 3 versions of the C.I. articulated briefly but thoughtfully. Well worth a listen, thank you for posting, it helped my understanding enormously.
I've read the Groundwork several times I did you did a really good job of summarizing here in a way that I believe is justifiably sympathetic to one of the great men of all times. Also, you made it accessible to a broad audience which is a feat in itself.
I’ve read kantian ethics and got a completely different interpretation of it. But that’s because I really struggle with philosophy. Having viewed this, everything now makes sense so thanks a lot. This really helped me out.
It all boils down to 3 parts: 1. The only good thing without qualification is the "good will". 2. Morality comes to us because we are rational. 3. Categorical imperative.
True, but it is completely senseless as different people has different marality in the first place. Kant even believed that everybody should be educated to reason like him, so he is totalitarian too .. In other words, Kant believe that moral is practiced equally by 7 billion people (yes, Kant believed that everybody has same sense of marility), which is clearly the most naive thing I have ever heard
Seems in a sense like a form of moral relativity, but one where the relativity is compared within your own rationality. Kant seems optimistic about the human attitude/aptitude towards being moral and rational, but on the premise that everyone practice to become rational.
The Categorical Imperative, being the answer to the question: "If everyone did this, what kind of a world would it be?" requires relinquishing personal preference for any particular outcome in favor of the general welfare of all, including yourself
@@islandgyalr no, because kant is not saying it’s imperative because it’s in your own interest, but because it’s the only thing that logically makes sense.
"I will take the Ring to Mordor! ...Though I do not know the way." Good will in action, rational since it needed to be done, categorical imperative since it was the right thing to do no matter who did it.
I have been watching kants moral theory since this morning but you have explained it in simple way that it is easier for the listener to understand...! Thanks it makes sense now I can move forward to next step ❤
I'm sooooo happy that I've found this channel!!! I've been re-reading a lot of Kant and the language is very difficult to parse; not sure if it's due to the translation itself or whether Kant just writes in a very obscure fashion.
as a philosophy master and selfproclaimed Kantian, i watched this to check if you knew what you were talking about... well done, this is a very good summary of Kants moral philosophy. *lift hats*
A whole lifesaver! I can never understand the readings or I just get too bored. But videos like this make it understandable and interesting. Good enough for me to do well on the quizzes and test!
this video came out just in time! i've got an exam on this cheeky kant and his moral theory on wednesday, thank you so much, this helped keep me grounded with all the revision i'm trying to cram in!
Thank you so much! Kant can be challenging and I am using him for part of a Philosophy exam. This explains his moral ideas so well and breaks the original ideas into digestible pieces of knowledge. Suddenly, all my previous notes and understanding have come together. Please keep doing videos like this :D
I think the rule of "I should act in a way I would want everyone to else to act" is a great simple idea to keep in mind when facing our own moral weakness.
I happen to think so, too. But just for the record, that is NOT what Kant is saying, but that a thing is right when you would reasonably will that everyone do the same.
I was at a loss trying to understand Kant's moral theory and I don't think that I fully understand it still, but, you have made it so much easier! THANK YOU!!!!
How can you know that someone has made the understanding of something a lot easier if you do not fully understand the concept. Potentially you have arrived on the wrong conclusions based on this video and once you fully understand it, you might review this explanation unfavourably. Conversely off course, you could be completley right.
same, because english people talking about philosophy use normal sensible words while german people talking about philosophy have the need to obsessively talk about a victorian for some reason. "grundlegung zur metaphysik der sitten"? "pflichtbegriff"? "handlungsmaxime"? why does everything have about 4 more syllables than necessary holy shit
Literally posted the day after my A2 Exam on which one of two main questions was "is kants deontological approach to ethics correct?" Haha! Luckily I covered most of your points! Really good break down btw
"Respecting the rules is good will." But also "If you follow the rules, it's not good will." and also "You make the rules, so whatever you decide is moral is the good will." Got it, makes sense. Thanks!
Hi Olly, I think this is a great introductory video to Kant's philosophy, but there are a couple points I want to take up in contention with you: 1. I sincerely think you've done a great job of breaking down Kant's moral philosophy without getting entangled in his metaphysics. However, when you touch on heteronomy and autonomy you seem to gloss over how moral psychology plays a large role in what's going on. In other words, on Kant's account moral laws must originate in you, but that does not mean that you cannot take seriously the claims of others. This you touch on when you start talking about patriotism and youtube membership, but for reasons which I'll touch on later I'm not sure you can immediately draw on them. My main point is that what Kant found important seems to be rational endorsement, rather than just solipsism. 2. Regarding my point-on-hold from above, Kant does not hammer in the idea of a practical position. It seems more that he really thought that there was a human core that everyone had which provided the proper grounding. The idea of a practical position, on my understanding, is more of an interpretation that modern Kantians like Christine Koorsgaard have made in order to make sense of Kant's moral philosophy. 3. This isn't a disagreement inasmuch as it's just a side comment. Scholars have argued that Kant is wrong that lying or murder couldn't be universalized, just that according to his philosophy you'd have to will a world in which everyone lies or everyone murders. Needless to say, that's intuitively a shitty world to live in. But in no sense does Kant make clear what the practical content of these laws need to be.
oi philosophy tube, i'd love a video completely about epicurus, diogenes, or jeremy bentham. basically all the People associated with hedonism, cynicism or stoicism.
After going through numerous pages I came to this video and watched it and finally i was able understand it. Thank you so much for explaining it with good such examples. It was very useful.
Very nice though of Kant. I was always against the popular now, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions" in the figuratively way of course (I'm an atheist anyway). For me it doesn't matter that you failed. All it matters for me is that you tried to do a good thing. I want everyone to have good intentions.
Oh great! I literally just sat my A Level with the essay on this exactly. A day earlier would have been appreciated...nevermind. Still loved the video, especially with the higher production quality. Good job, Olly!
So, wouldn't that categorical imperative argue against the existence of a division of labour? Like, if I wanted to be a computer technician, but then I reflected upon the categorical imperative, wouldn't this mean that my will to become a computer technician would be immoral, since, if everyone was a computer technician, I would not want to be one, since nobody would be producing any food, among many other necessities?
I'm sure not everything is moral or immoral. Being a computer technician would not be either, but a thing which is just amoral. A thing devoid of any morality.
As far as I could tell from the video, the categorical imperative referred to action. You could argue that any action in isolation is not definitely moral or immoral to anybody, without considering the broader context it relates to. Lying can be said to be a moral action in certain circumstances (hence the term 'white lie'), or perhaps willfully devoting half my waking hours to repairing computers could be immoral if I lived in a country with 1 computer, better computer technicians already existed, and I had a family that depended on my income from whatever my occupation was. What I got from the video was that the universal application of the categorical imperative was that it used the universal reflection of 'if everyone did what i wanted to do, would my desire to do it be consistent?'
If Kant is so big into personal autonomy, I feel like you're presenting a case of the will to do for a career what you want to do, where it would therefore be moral because if you were to will that everyone do for a career what they wanted to do that would be just fine, and so the mass of autonomous beings that is humanity naturally creates a division of labor as such. Maybe I'm way off base here, but I think that's what it would seem to suggest.
I'm not sure what you're saying falls within the purview of ethics and morality. We can apply your example to other cases so as to reveal the problem: e.g. "I want to eat peanuts, but I don't want everybody to eat peanuts because some might dislike them or be allergic to them; therefore, I will not eat peanuts". The example is indeed about an action but not one that has an (essential and direct) ethical effect on others. Your desire to eat peanuts doesn't deny the will of others to not eat them. You could argue from a Marxist perspective, however, that being a computer technician is somehow unethical, but that's another problem (as Olly said).
I think the point Hanna made is valid. But ragarding a lie you have to tread carefully. For Kant there would be no excuse to lie in any circumstance. That actually is a problem and has been a major point against Kants categorial Imperativ. For example if you where a person in Nazi Germany and would hide a jew in your flat and the GESTAPO comes to you and asks you if you hid a jew, acording to Kant you would have to say yes.
This is the best channel ever, you're a lifesaver haha. Your explanations clear up all the misunderstandings and / or spacing out that come from reading the source material 😂
The catigorical Imperative is a great idea with one big flaw, it depends extremly on the framing of the maxim As an example with lying it makes a diference if the maxim is You can lie; You can lie, if it saves lives;or to make it even broader You can Speak And it can create situations where bothe An action and Not doing that Action are wrong
That's the simplest way I've seen it put in these comments. I'm not certain but I think the answer is Kant didn't allow for conditionals in his maxims. Seems he thought lying was bad even at the cost of lives, though he did define a lie only as an untruth that violates another's right. Seems he wrote some contradictory papers on the subject. In one he claims lying to a robber would not actually be a lie because the robber would expect a lie and would have no right to ask in the first place. Then in a later paper he says truthfulness is a duty to everyone no matter how great the disadvantage to himself or others. Personally I think the logic of his system works fine if you make the universals a bit less restrictive and apply the rules to each situation individually, but I can see how someone like Kant would consider that to just open the door up to endless excuses as opposed to reasons.
Not to mention that he also tries to draw a distinction between outright lying and telling deliberately misleading truths, which I don’t buy. If it’s the intention that matters then misleading truths in place of lies are also immoral... from there, it’s a short walk to ‘lies by omission’ territory and then it all unravels.
oooh I get it now I googled it and read it over about 5 times and didn't get it came to this video and watched it twice I fully understand it now thx man :)
Nice video. Philochrony is the theory that describes the nature of time and demonstrates its existence. Time is magnitive: objective, Imperceptible and measurable.
I like that we have such great connectivity now with the internet to have good interpretations of all the great philosophers. I admittedly am unable to read and get what’s important out of the great texts, scholars teachers and other philosophers have done the hard work for the rest of us. That being said we now can figure out if greats got it right, by combining all the best into context we can formulate a general conclusion. Kant in long expression is all about the golden rule. Do onto others as they would do on to you. I wasn’t the only one. If you keep in mind the Buddhist thoughts you can shorten all the greats into tiny little sentences.
I think it is particularly interesting to intersect Kant's assertions about moral reasoning with Robert Kegan's constructive-developmental theory on Orders of Mind. Kant believes that these capacities ae universal, whereas human developmental psychology indicates that only a relatively small fraction of adults achieve the level of mental processing necessary to operate in the internally driven and internally consistent way that Kant idealizes...
The only good actions are ones that you do because you are spooked... but then he says no, you have do it because the ego chooses it... Kant makes no sense at all.
I have an objection to Kant's statement that good will and only good will is truly good. From what this video says, it seems Kant claims that this is the case because, unlike intelligence, strength, wealth, or whatever else, good will cannot be used for evil. It can only be used for good. On the contrary, most of us are familiar with the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." It is entirely possible to do horrible things out of the desire to do good. Many religious zealots have killed their fellow humans because they believed that they were doing the righteous thing commanded by the supreme moral authority of the universe. People have murdered immigrants thinking that they were bravely defending their homeland from evil invaders. Good will can absolutely be corrupted and turned to evil ends, just as surely as intelligence, charisma, or any other possible "virtue".
Wouldn't not murdering be a categorical imperative? By setting up a scenario in which a categorical imperative has been violated, the system crashes. If all people agree that getting murdered is negative, then by telling telling the truth, you are in fact preventing the victim from attaining their end. Further, by agreeing to offer aid to the victim, you have implicitly indicated that you prefer their end (Not being murdered) to the murderer's end (murdering the victim). Therefore, it can be inferred that by telling the murderer the truth, you have lied to the victim. Once you introduce a violation of logic into a logical system, logic can no longer be used.
Really liked this video. laying it out in this way, as well as not focusing on the part were most people (including myself) just see him as obviously wrong (were he says that lying is *always* wrong), really helps in understanding were he was coming from. That bit at the end though made it clear to me that I really really do not understand what free will is supposed to be. I have no idea how it's relevant but that must be because i don't know what it is. My only real guess is that having free will means having agency. But telling me that if i am put in the exact same situation (with memories and experiences reset) multiple times i will always make the same decision does not make me feel like I'm not "free". In fact telling me that i might make a different decision sometimes makes me feel like i don't have as much agency over my actions as i might hope.
That's the common sense solution that I feel gets looked over far too often. It's a matter of defining the self. The decisions I make may be a result of a series of causes and effects that go all the way back to the big bang and which determine everything I do. But those causes and effects are literally what define me. They're who I am. So I determine everything I do.
Morality is a 'spook' according to Max Stirner, 19th century philosopher and edgelord who wrote the book "The Ego and His Own" in which he proposes that there are ideas which he calls "spooks" such as morality, nationality, race, gender, that people follow and essentially try to conform to against their own self-interest. For example, someone may give a homeless person money because they believe that's what the idea of a good person is, and they are thus subverting themself to this idea, as opposed to doing it for their own self-interest or benefit. Also, Stirner believed that everything belongs to him he merely needs the power to attain it. Read more here: theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-ego-and-his-own edit: just remembered a great quote that explains spooks (can't remember where I saw it but I have it in 'spooks.txt'): "A spook is an abstraction essentially. It's a concept that does not exist as material fact and in many cases is synonymous with the idea of a "social construct." Not all concepts or abstractions are spooks, however. The defining characteristic of a spook is that the concept motivates an individual into acting in a way to protect the "sacredness" of that concept, often against that individual's better interests."
+Robert Sparks What? He gives several examples of these "spooks". Morality, God, the law, nationalism, natural rights etc. They are, essential, false ethical beliefs (well, max stirner believes all ethical beliefs are "false"), which one has to admit do exist.
This is the only video that helped me understand this. Other people have explained it in such a complicated way, much like Kant speaks. So really it’s no help. But this one was explained well!
People always say that Kant's moral theory leads to ridiculous conclusions like "You must always tell the truth, even to an murderer looking for your friend". Surely though the maxim doesn't need to be "you should not lie". Can it not have any number of qualifications? Meaning that instead of one maxim there are many.
Do you want others in your situation (of being threatened) to lie or not? you certainly do, so they wouldn't get killed. Would you set an example for others to lie in this case? you certainly would. I don't see the problem here
The Bible tells us that the Law of God is written in our hearts. That is why we always strive to do good. Our conscious condemns us when we violate the Law of God in our hearts (souls). But when we indulge ourselves in sin, that hardens our hearts, and therefore violates our conscious. We end up sinning habitually, and since we do have a fallen nature, we fail to see the imminent danger, which is the consequence of our sin. Similar to Kant, Jesus came to teach that men need to be righteous beings, it wouldn't matter how righteous you act, if you are not righteous within, you only act that way for what that righteous act get you, then you are an evil person. That was the reason why he rebuked pharisees and scribes (the most religious people of his time), he called them vipers, that they were like their father the Devil! That is like going to the priest and pastors of today and say those things to them! But the issue with Kant is, it doesn't tell or clarify how do we get the will to do good? It just say it is inside us. Do we all have a good will or some of us don't have a good will. If some lacks a good will, then why?
Because a lack of knowledge. When Kant says it is inside of us what he means is that we inherently know what good and bad is but we do not know why(the knowledge part) that is when you can add in deontology and natural law and virtue ethics
nayinayi1 please dont try to compare a story to a theory. Kants philosophy is nowadays used to debunk god and he himself was'nt religious as he grew older.
I am a Christian, but it is fair to note that there are some major differences between the Divine Command Theory, and Kant’s Deontological ethics. Kant says we have a duty to uphold morality, thus using the categorical imperative, the principle of the ends, and the principle of autonomy. The Divine Command Theory just says that God’s will is morality, and we have to uphold the Ten Commandments and the rest of His Word. Although Kant was very religious, he criticized the DCT, and called it a “crutch” for people making ethical decisions. He basically said that if we’re doing the right thing because God or the Bible tells us to, then we are doing it for the wrong reason. Kant believes we should act morally ONLY because we have a duty to do so.
i just started philosophy2A at the University of juburg, and i was really having a difficult time comprehending these laws...am now at ease. thanks mate
I had my philosophy A2 exam yesterday and the essay was on deontological ethics! wish I had seen this video yesterday :'( but thank you for all your videos that have helped me a lot over the past two years :)
Thanks for this, I have a Communication Ethics class and part of it is Kant and Mill. I had a hard time understanding Kant and this is the 2nd video I've seen that made the concepts more clear!
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I literally watched this immediately after finishing the Good Place.
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It’s a breath of fresh air to hear Kant explained so well and so simply - the best I’ve seen on RUclips! Keep up the everyday contextualised examples!
There's a lot of nuance here, and this video has been a HUGE help in understanding it all. Good stuff, Olly!
Hey, NedSync! I like your work man! I mean I know it's probably a few people, and at least two on screen, but the main guy. Spent a lot of hours procrastinating to your content :)
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NerdSync Thank you. This is an informative presentation, providing an excellent overview of Kant's ideas and logical process in obtaining them. Excuse my departure from the content, but this video is unique in my experience because it is the first and only one that does not have a thumbs down or negative comment by a transient troll. I am proud to be the 80th like!
I needed this!!!!!!!!! I'm trying to understand this for my sociology course and the material explains it in the most wordy, unnecessary way. Thank you
My pleasure!
The problem is that most people don't understand Kant, thus can't teach it very well.;
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I just want to add a different look on morality, which I discovered while reading C.S. Lewis. (His book- Abolition of Men talks primarily about morality, really good book)To find out morality, you actually can't base it on logic, hear me out. If some guy threatens to kill your entire town if no one volunteers to sacrifice himself, what do you do? (No cheating, this is hypothetical). First ask yourself what it the logical and the moral thing to do. The moral thing to do is to sacrifice yourself, because it helps your town out. Yet that is not logical. The logical thing to do is not sacrifice yourself, because you are gonna die anyways, and hope that someone else does so there is a bigger chance of you surviving. thoughts?
+Alex Bensen logical vs moral or gain vs the good thing kinda like its logical not to return the accident change.
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This is super helpful! I feel like he has a much deeper understanding of Kant's ethics than a lot of other people I've seen on RUclips.
I love this video, it is like listening in on a conversation with my peers at the university. This channel is beautiful. I wish you luck and happiness! And thanks for the video :)
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In a world where my professor talks entirely too fast during lectures, this video was a LIFE SAVER. The concept was explained clearly and thoroughly. Many thanks!
I have learned so much from you. You're great at explaining things to people to help them understand the concepts. The only issue I have, that I am an audial and visual learner so adding words or pictures would help me and I'm sure others to learn easier. Thanks for all you do and keep rocking the Philosophy!! Great work! Thanks.
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Well nuanced and nuances punctuated clearly and concisely. The 3 versions of the C.I. articulated briefly but thoughtfully. Well worth a listen, thank you for posting, it helped my understanding enormously.
I like the way you said it - the way you expressed your appreciation for this narrator. Concise and clear.
I've read the Groundwork several times I did you did a really good job of summarizing here in a way that I believe is justifiably sympathetic to one of the great men of all times. Also, you made it accessible to a broad audience which is a feat in itself.
I Kant understand this philosophy??
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Shall I provide you with i-manual to understand it?
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i kant understand u
This is awesome. I remember struggling with Kant's work years ago; imo, you explained his thought on his terms really well.
I’ve read kantian ethics and got a completely different interpretation of it. But that’s because I really struggle with philosophy. Having viewed this, everything now makes sense so thanks a lot. This really helped me out.
The very best "quick rundown" of Kant's CI I have heard to date. You nail it.
It all boils down to 3 parts:
1. The only good thing without qualification is the "good will".
2. Morality comes to us because we are rational.
3. Categorical imperative.
True, but it is completely senseless as different people has different marality in the first place. Kant even believed that everybody should be educated to reason like him, so he is totalitarian too .. In other words, Kant believe that moral is practiced equally by 7 billion people (yes, Kant believed that everybody has same sense of marility), which is clearly the most naive thing I have ever heard
Seems in a sense like a form of moral relativity, but one where the relativity is compared within your own rationality. Kant seems optimistic about the human attitude/aptitude towards being moral and rational, but on the premise that everyone practice to become rational.
What are 'good' and 'bad' intentions?
The Categorical Imperative, being the answer to the question:
"If everyone did this, what kind of a world would it be?"
requires relinquishing personal preference for any particular outcome in favor of the general welfare of all, including yourself
Categorical imperative = creating and honoring social contracts?
@@islandgyalr no, because kant is not saying it’s imperative because it’s in your own interest, but because it’s the only thing that logically makes sense.
This sample of knowledge and you get to pick knowledge or money. The imperative being knowledge.
"I will take the Ring to Mordor! ...Though I do not know the way."
Good will in action, rational since it needed to be done, categorical imperative since it was the right thing to do no matter who did it.
prime example
Well said
I have been watching kants moral theory since this morning but you have explained it in simple way that it is easier for the listener to understand...! Thanks it makes sense now I can move forward to next step ❤
I'm sooooo happy that I've found this channel!!!
I've been re-reading a lot of Kant and the language is very difficult to parse; not sure if it's due to the translation itself or whether Kant just writes in a very obscure fashion.
as a philosophy master and selfproclaimed Kantian, i watched this to check if you knew what you were talking about... well done, this is a very good summary of Kants moral philosophy. *lift hats*
Good host/narrator.
+Jason32Bourne thanks! I also wrote it :)
Well done. Cheers!
A whole lifesaver! I can never understand the readings or I just get too bored. But videos like this make it understandable and interesting. Good enough for me to do well on the quizzes and test!
this video came out just in time! i've got an exam on this cheeky kant and his moral theory on wednesday, thank you so much, this helped keep me grounded with all the revision i'm trying to cram in!
Thank you so much! Kant can be challenging and I am using him for part of a Philosophy exam. This explains his moral ideas so well and breaks the original ideas into digestible pieces of knowledge. Suddenly, all my previous notes and understanding have come together. Please keep doing videos like this :D
Thank you! This cleared up a ton of confusions and misconception about Kant I didn't even know I had.
I think the rule of "I should act in a way I would want everyone to else to act" is a great simple idea to keep in mind when facing our own moral weakness.
I happen to think so, too. But just for the record, that is NOT what Kant is saying, but that a thing is right when you would reasonably will that everyone do the same.
@@TheThomasmbajjwe I don't see any difference in the two formulations, except the addition of "reasonably"
I was at a loss trying to understand Kant's moral theory and I don't think that I fully understand it still, but, you have made it so much easier! THANK YOU!!!!
How can you know that someone has made the understanding of something a lot easier if you do not fully understand the concept. Potentially you have arrived on the wrong conclusions based on this video and once you fully understand it, you might review this explanation unfavourably. Conversely off course, you could be completley right.
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When people truly understand things they can speak so that the layman can understand. Well done sir!
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same, because english people talking about philosophy use normal sensible words while german people talking about philosophy have the need to obsessively talk about a victorian for some reason. "grundlegung zur metaphysik der sitten"? "pflichtbegriff"? "handlungsmaxime"? why does everything have about 4 more syllables than necessary holy shit
Literally posted the day after my A2 Exam on which one of two main questions was "is kants deontological approach to ethics correct?" Haha! Luckily I covered most of your points! Really good break down btw
Nicely done. I wish you'd combined it with the hypothetical imperative so that I could more effectively use it in class.
"Respecting the rules is good will." But also "If you follow the rules, it's not good will." and also "You make the rules, so whatever you decide is moral is the good will." Got it, makes sense. Thanks!
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Hi Olly, I think this is a great introductory video to Kant's philosophy, but there are a couple points I want to take up in contention with you:
1. I sincerely think you've done a great job of breaking down Kant's moral philosophy without getting entangled in his metaphysics. However, when you touch on heteronomy and autonomy you seem to gloss over how moral psychology plays a large role in what's going on. In other words, on Kant's account moral laws must originate in you, but that does not mean that you cannot take seriously the claims of others. This you touch on when you start talking about patriotism and youtube membership, but for reasons which I'll touch on later I'm not sure you can immediately draw on them. My main point is that what Kant found important seems to be rational endorsement, rather than just solipsism.
2. Regarding my point-on-hold from above, Kant does not hammer in the idea of a practical position. It seems more that he really thought that there was a human core that everyone had which provided the proper grounding. The idea of a practical position, on my understanding, is more of an interpretation that modern Kantians like Christine Koorsgaard have made in order to make sense of Kant's moral philosophy.
3. This isn't a disagreement inasmuch as it's just a side comment. Scholars have argued that Kant is wrong that lying or murder couldn't be universalized, just that according to his philosophy you'd have to will a world in which everyone lies or everyone murders. Needless to say, that's intuitively a shitty world to live in. But in no sense does Kant make clear what the practical content of these laws need to be.
God, it feels so weird to watch Abby's older videos. I'm glad you were able to come out, mate. Best of luck in your future endeavors.
I had such a hard time understanding Kant in my philosophy class but your video really cleared it up for me, thanks!
oi philosophy tube, i'd love a video completely about epicurus, diogenes, or jeremy bentham. basically all the People associated with hedonism, cynicism or stoicism.
Far, far better than that 'other' Kant video that was suggested to me. Well appreciated.
the lack of daddy energy Olly has in this is frightening
Its very unsettling, like an alternate universe where things are slightly out of place
in his defense, all daddys were once but mere boys
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After going through numerous pages I came to this video and watched it and finally i was able understand it. Thank you so much for explaining it with good such examples. It was very useful.
Very nice though of Kant. I was always against the popular now, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions" in the figuratively way of course (I'm an atheist anyway). For me it doesn't matter that you failed. All it matters for me is that you tried to do a good thing. I want everyone to have good intentions.
I love watching Olly's 4 year old videos to help me with my philosophy homework 😚
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Clear & credible articulation of a complex philosophy . Thank you
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Great video. I've seen lots of video that try to explain Kant and bungle it. This is accurate, clear, and sufficiently thorough.
Oh great! I literally just sat my A Level with the essay on this exactly. A day earlier would have been appreciated...nevermind. Still loved the video, especially with the higher production quality. Good job, Olly!
It makes me happy that I know some basics of this from The Good Place. When a tv comedy can teach moral philosophy, it's done some cool things.
a RUclips video with over 100 thumbs up and no thumbs down!?!?! (as of this comment) apparently the trolls have learned morality
Or perhaps they aren't enticed by philosophical discussion?
And now it's 3363 ups and only 42 downs.
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This is the best video on Immanuel Kant on all of RUclips.
The Good Place brought me here...
No, Film theory brought here lol
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My exam was one day ago too, but in welding! Where was this video?
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So, wouldn't that categorical imperative argue against the existence of a division of labour? Like, if I wanted to be a computer technician, but then I reflected upon the categorical imperative, wouldn't this mean that my will to become a computer technician would be immoral, since, if everyone was a computer technician, I would not want to be one, since nobody would be producing any food, among many other necessities?
I'm sure not everything is moral or immoral. Being a computer technician would not be either, but a thing which is just amoral. A thing devoid of any morality.
As far as I could tell from the video, the categorical imperative referred to action. You could argue that any action in isolation is not definitely moral or immoral to anybody, without considering the broader context it relates to. Lying can be said to be a moral action in certain circumstances (hence the term 'white lie'), or perhaps willfully devoting half my waking hours to repairing computers could be immoral if I lived in a country with 1 computer, better computer technicians already existed, and I had a family that depended on my income from whatever my occupation was.
What I got from the video was that the universal application of the categorical imperative was that it used the universal reflection of 'if everyone did what i wanted to do, would my desire to do it be consistent?'
If Kant is so big into personal autonomy, I feel like you're presenting a case of the will to do for a career what you want to do, where it would therefore be moral because if you were to will that everyone do for a career what they wanted to do that would be just fine, and so the mass of autonomous beings that is humanity naturally creates a division of labor as such.
Maybe I'm way off base here, but I think that's what it would seem to suggest.
I'm not sure what you're saying falls within the purview of ethics and morality. We can apply your example to other cases so as to reveal the problem: e.g. "I want to eat peanuts, but I don't want everybody to eat peanuts because some might dislike them or be allergic to them; therefore, I will not eat peanuts". The example is indeed about an action but not one that has an (essential and direct) ethical effect on others. Your desire to eat peanuts doesn't deny the will of others to not eat them. You could argue from a Marxist perspective, however, that being a computer technician is somehow unethical, but that's another problem (as Olly said).
I think the point Hanna made is valid. But ragarding a lie you have to tread carefully. For Kant there would be no excuse to lie in any circumstance. That actually is a problem and has been a major point against Kants categorial Imperativ. For example if you where a person in Nazi Germany and would hide a jew in your flat and the GESTAPO comes to you and asks you if you hid a jew, acording to Kant you would have to say yes.
This is the best channel ever, you're a lifesaver haha. Your explanations clear up all the misunderstandings and / or spacing out that come from reading the source material 😂
The catigorical Imperative is a great idea with one big flaw,
it depends extremly on the framing of the maxim
As an example with lying it makes a diference if the maxim is
You can lie; You can lie, if it saves lives;or to make it even broader You can Speak
And it can create situations where bothe An action and Not doing that Action are wrong
That's the simplest way I've seen it put in these comments. I'm not certain but I think the answer is Kant didn't allow for conditionals in his maxims. Seems he thought lying was bad even at the cost of lives, though he did define a lie only as an untruth that violates another's right. Seems he wrote some contradictory papers on the subject. In one he claims lying to a robber would not actually be a lie because the robber would expect a lie and would have no right to ask in the first place. Then in a later paper he says truthfulness is a duty to everyone no matter how great the disadvantage to himself or others.
Personally I think the logic of his system works fine if you make the universals a bit less restrictive and apply the rules to each situation individually, but I can see how someone like Kant would consider that to just open the door up to endless excuses as opposed to reasons.
Not to mention that he also tries to draw a distinction between outright lying and telling deliberately misleading truths, which I don’t buy. If it’s the intention that matters then misleading truths in place of lies are also immoral... from there, it’s a short walk to ‘lies by omission’ territory and then it all unravels.
This video really helped me with a paper in college on Kant's categorical imperative. Thanks.
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The way you explain concepts is just brilliant mate !
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oooh I get it now I googled it and read it over about 5 times and didn't get it came to this video and watched it twice I fully understand it now thx man :)
Nice video. Philochrony is the theory that describes the nature of time and demonstrates its existence. Time is magnitive: objective, Imperceptible and measurable.
3:07 kant destroying bad people with FACTS AND LOGIC
I like that we have such great connectivity now with the internet to have good interpretations of all the great philosophers.
I admittedly am unable to read and get what’s important out of the great texts, scholars teachers and other philosophers have done the hard work for the rest of us.
That being said we now can figure out if greats got it right, by combining all the best into context we can formulate a general conclusion.
Kant in long expression is all about the golden rule. Do onto others as they would do on to you.
I wasn’t the only one.
If you keep in mind the Buddhist thoughts you can shorten all the greats into tiny little sentences.
have an exam in 2 days and the kant reading alone is like 54 pages, is this enough to get by lmao
I think it is particularly interesting to intersect Kant's assertions about moral reasoning with Robert Kegan's constructive-developmental theory on Orders of Mind. Kant believes that these capacities ae universal, whereas human developmental psychology indicates that only a relatively small fraction of adults achieve the level of mental processing necessary to operate in the internally driven and internally consistent way that Kant idealizes...
Some just might say, "We KANT do this...."
this is literally a God send for me right now.
The only good actions are ones that you do because you are spooked... but then he says no, you have do it because the ego chooses it... Kant makes no sense at all.
Calm down Max
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that quick breadpill in there was excellent
I have an objection to Kant's statement that good will and only good will is truly good. From what this video says, it seems Kant claims that this is the case because, unlike intelligence, strength, wealth, or whatever else, good will cannot be used for evil. It can only be used for good. On the contrary, most of us are familiar with the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." It is entirely possible to do horrible things out of the desire to do good. Many religious zealots have killed their fellow humans because they believed that they were doing the righteous thing commanded by the supreme moral authority of the universe. People have murdered immigrants thinking that they were bravely defending their homeland from evil invaders. Good will can absolutely be corrupted and turned to evil ends, just as surely as intelligence, charisma, or any other possible "virtue".
This was exactly what I needed, love your tone and speaking style!
Wouldn't not murdering be a categorical imperative?
By setting up a scenario in which a categorical imperative has been violated, the system crashes.
If all people agree that getting murdered is negative, then by telling telling the truth, you are in fact preventing the victim from attaining their end. Further, by agreeing to offer aid to the victim, you have implicitly indicated that you prefer their end (Not being murdered) to the murderer's end (murdering the victim). Therefore, it can be inferred that by telling the murderer the truth, you have lied to the victim.
Once you introduce a violation of logic into a logical system, logic can no longer be used.
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Really liked this video. laying it out in this way, as well as not focusing on the part were most people (including myself) just see him as obviously wrong (were he says that lying is *always* wrong), really helps in understanding were he was coming from. That bit at the end though made it clear to me that I really really do not understand what free will is supposed to be. I have no idea how it's relevant but that must be because i don't know what it is.
My only real guess is that having free will means having agency. But telling me that if i am put in the exact same situation (with memories and experiences reset) multiple times i will always make the same decision does not make me feel like I'm not "free". In fact telling me that i might make a different decision sometimes makes me feel like i don't have as much agency over my actions as i might hope.
That's the common sense solution that I feel gets looked over far too often. It's a matter of defining the self. The decisions I make may be a result of a series of causes and effects that go all the way back to the big bang and which determine everything I do. But those causes and effects are literally what define me. They're who I am. So I determine everything I do.
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t. stirner
+Sam Moore dude what?
Morality is a 'spook' according to Max Stirner, 19th century philosopher and edgelord who wrote the book "The Ego and His Own" in which he proposes that there are ideas which he calls "spooks" such as morality, nationality, race, gender, that people follow and essentially try to conform to against their own self-interest. For example, someone may give a homeless person money because they believe that's what the idea of a good person is, and they are thus subverting themself to this idea, as opposed to doing it for their own self-interest or benefit.
Also, Stirner believed that everything belongs to him he merely needs the power to attain it.
Read more here: theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-ego-and-his-own
edit: just remembered a great quote that explains spooks (can't remember where I saw it but I have it in 'spooks.txt'):
"A spook is an abstraction essentially. It's a concept that does not exist as material fact and in many cases is synonymous with the idea of a "social construct." Not all concepts or abstractions are spooks, however. The defining characteristic of a spook is that the concept motivates an individual into acting in a way to protect the "sacredness" of that concept, often against that individual's better interests."
+Sam Moore sounds interesting thx man lol
Has anyone seen these "spooks"? No? Then Stimer is delusional and an idiot.
+Robert Sparks What? He gives several examples of these "spooks". Morality, God, the law, nationalism, natural rights etc. They are, essential, false ethical beliefs (well, max stirner believes all ethical beliefs are "false"), which one has to admit do exist.
This is the only video that helped me understand this. Other people have explained it in such a complicated way, much like Kant speaks. So really it’s no help. But this one was explained well!
People always say that Kant's moral theory leads to ridiculous conclusions like "You must always tell the truth, even to an murderer looking for your friend". Surely though the maxim doesn't need to be "you should not lie". Can it not have any number of qualifications? Meaning that instead of one maxim there are many.
Would this also extend to stretching the truth? Where you don't necessarily outright lie, but don't tell the whole truth either?
Kant himself argued that you shouldn't lie to the murderer
I think for Kant it would be okay to tell a misleading truth. So you don't have to lie but the murderer won't find your friend either.
+Björn Karg I'm just curious to know why Kant wouldn't allow for such a qualification to be added.
Do you want others in your situation (of being threatened) to lie or not? you certainly do, so they wouldn't get killed.
Would you set an example for others to lie in this case? you certainly would.
I don't see the problem here
Writing a paper for my Legal Philosophy class, this video was a huge help, keep making more and good luck to you good sir :)
I kant understand but okay
I may not have got all the lesson, but enjoyed the exquisite pronuciation
Woah, spooky.
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Great video and helps me to understand what Kant meant by the categorical imperatives.
The Bible tells us that the Law of God is written in our hearts. That is why we always strive to do good. Our conscious condemns us when we violate the Law of God in our hearts (souls). But when we indulge ourselves in sin, that hardens our hearts, and therefore violates our conscious. We end up sinning habitually, and since we do have a fallen nature, we fail to see the imminent danger, which is the consequence of our sin.
Similar to Kant, Jesus came to teach that men need to be righteous beings, it wouldn't matter how righteous you act, if you are not righteous within, you only act that way for what that righteous act get you, then you are an evil person. That was the reason why he rebuked pharisees and scribes (the most religious people of his time), he called them vipers, that they were like their father the Devil! That is like going to the priest and pastors of today and say those things to them!
But the issue with Kant is, it doesn't tell or clarify how do we get the will to do good? It just say it is inside us. Do we all have a good will or some of us don't have a good will. If some lacks a good will, then why?
Because a lack of knowledge. When Kant says it is inside of us what he means is that we inherently know what good and bad is but we do not know why(the knowledge part) that is when you can add in deontology and natural law and virtue ethics
nayinayi1 please dont try to compare a story to a theory. Kants philosophy is nowadays used to debunk god and he himself was'nt religious as he grew older.
I am a Christian, but it is fair to note that there are some major differences between the Divine Command Theory, and Kant’s Deontological ethics. Kant says we have a duty to uphold morality, thus using the categorical imperative, the principle of the ends, and the principle of autonomy. The Divine Command Theory just says that God’s will is morality, and we have to uphold the Ten Commandments and the rest of His Word. Although Kant was very religious, he criticized the DCT, and called it a “crutch” for people making ethical decisions. He basically said that if we’re doing the right thing because God or the Bible tells us to, then we are doing it for the wrong reason. Kant believes we should act morally ONLY because we have a duty to do so.
You know jesus and god aren't real right.... maybe pick up a science book...
No. There is no god. Your entire belief system is a lie. Grow up.
Thanks Olly, I would say this is your best video so far.
i just started philosophy2A at the University of juburg, and i was really having a difficult time comprehending these laws...am now at ease. thanks mate
Excellent presentation. I find my daily actions fit some of Kant's ideas. Interesting stuff.
I had my philosophy A2 exam yesterday and the essay was on deontological ethics! wish I had seen this video yesterday :'(
but thank you for all your videos that have helped me a lot over the past two years :)
Good is good, thanks Kant for opening my eyes, I feel enlightened in universal platitudes.
Abigail looks really cute with a pixie cut but I do think her long hair is very elegant :)
You've managed to make kant easy to understand! Thank you so much!!
Thanks for this, I have a Communication Ethics class and part of it is Kant and Mill. I had a hard time understanding Kant and this is the 2nd video I've seen that made the concepts more clear!