@@DawidDoesTechStuff ive been after one of the Spin Q coolers for quite some time. As im trying to build a Ultimate Win Xp gaming machine for my disk based games. But cant find one anywhere lol
Ah, finally, some computer nostalgia for someone my age! The time of Vista was when I got into computers, but XP was a more popular OS and 7 was just around the corner so I barely got to use it 😂
@@DannyWilliamH Yep it was Even worst than the win 98 first edition ... I was happy with the win 95c, happy because i didnt have to remember the old dos commands anymore!
Hi Dawid, watching this brought back so many nostalgic memories for me. The C2D e6300 was also my very first processor placed into an XP SP2 gaming build. This must have been around 2006/7 and at the time had an Nvidia FX5200 in it for some absolute epic beast mode gaming performance (lol) and a whopping 1GB system memory at DDR2 667mhz FTW! I worked at McDonalds on the weekends and worked in an IT apprenticeship in the week. Saved up and bought each part weekly. Playing Battlefield 2 on it, the original Farcry, Modern Warfare (Original) Call of Duty 2. (Might have some of those games mixed up in terms of dates but you get the picture) Ahh those days seem like a lifetime ago. Next PC was the Core 2 Quad Q6600. Now that was a BEAST and paired with the 8800GTS, (could never afford the GTX model) played Crysis like a boss! Ah Great times. Could talk for hours, would love to talk to you one day, keep up the great work, fun content, and keep the Mrs happy, it's really nice she involves herself and supports you. Happy building and gaming buddy! - Jake "since 1990".
"Today I'm going to infect a PC..." -Wonder which kind of virus he'll have at hand, he's such a nice person... "...with Windows Vista." -Oh, we woke up in full Satan mode today, huh?
-Oh well, it's holding together, that's nice. Maybe he's not as evil as I thought... "Let's run Crysis on this." -Hello? The Vatican? May I speak with the pope? I think I have found the Anti-Christ you were looking for...
A lot of people talk about vista, but forgot it has SP1 and SP2 (the sims 3 on retail release crashes if you didn't have updated to Service Pack 1 at least).
I have really come to enjoy this channel. I have one request that you only take into consideration if you ever see this. When your channel inevitably grows to the point that major manufacturers want to send you their new parts, don't just become every other boring review channel. While I understand some of it is necessary to play the game, I also really enjoy how this channel is fun and creative and not like every other channel. You and Anna both make this channel a nice balance of tech and fun without being stale. I apologize if this comes off as pandering lol.
Well I think you are in luck ☺️ he has a way better time making this content than the traditional review style stuff. He quite often turns down requests from manufacturers for review requests because they aren’t just boring to watch but boring to make too 😂 So as long as people are watching his ridiculous videos (100% in line with his personality btw) then he should be able to continue the way he is doing things now 👌🏻🐈👱🏻♀️
Thank you for the nice words and taking the time to voice your concerns. I have realized that when I do the more standard review style videos that they gain much less attention. So I will always try to use all the components in the nost interesting way possible. Besides those review videos are also much more boring to make. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff aww! I love that you both took the time to respond. I meant everything with the utmost respect. Im not saying don't do them at all. Like I said, you gotta play the game at some levels in order to keep everyone happy and your viewers understand that. Im just saying don't lose your love for the fun because it's just as enjoyable for us. Anna is always a great cameo too. I really enjoy the jokes and charm of the channel and maybe im just scared of losing it. Cheers you two!
This is awesome, I got almost this exact PC one Christmas it was my very first pc I built with my dad a different mobo and case but the rest is basically the same. This brought back some great memories, I’ve still got this processor and GPU but sadly the mobo died
what i really love about the old era hardware: it was a time, when... all you needed to play pretty much ANY game was just a ANY gpu really. The difference between a standard midrange card and THE HIGHEND beast was: antialiasing. but if you just turn off anti aliasing on the midrange card and turn on anti aliasing on the highend card, the games pretty much ran exactly the same. You only have 100 bucks instead of 400? whatever just turn off anti aliasing and you re fine...you ll get the exact same experience out of it. today is like: buy anything but this overpriced highend stuff and this new game isnt even remotely playable. I remember in school when Doom3 released and it was said to be THE HARDWARE KILLER in like any pc magazine out there and i bought myself an Nvidia 6600GT wich was a super value entrylvl beast..kinda reminds me of how the gtx 970 was a value beast, and on any lan partys friends camped my pc because they wanted to play doom3 and my system was the only one who could run it and it wasnt just ''running'' but it was running GREAT. Can you imagine you buy something like a gtx 1060 or something and everyone wants to play at your 1060 pc because its the best pc in town? back then an entry lvl or midrange card was all you ever need to impress your friends, today an entry or midrange card is barely enough to play a game at stable 30 fps lol...
My Vista era PC was about 2009 vintage. It was an i7 920, ASUS Rampage II Gene, 12GB(6x2GB) DDR3-1333 triple channel, GTX 260. It ran well on Vista, but I upgraded to Win 7. I kept that PC for years and it eventually got a GTX 660 Ti at a midlife upgrade. It could even smoothly handle games like Skyrim and Fallout 4 with moderate mods and medium to high settings.
I'm pretty sure the Geneva convention considers installing Vista in 2020 a crime against humanity. Idea for a video: evolution on case tendencies (psu location, ventilation holes, drive cages, etc.)
It's nice to see a youtuber doing videos like this . All i see nowdays are high end pc videos with overclocking and 'THE BEST PC BUILD FOR NOW' . Builds like this reminds me of how i played age of empires back then . Great game btw
@@DawidDoesTechStuff the first time i really started using it when i got c2d e7400 and 9400gt(ouch🤪) but after some month's 7 came out it became my friend until recently 2 yrs ago when i changed to win10 finally! But with win10privacy and ioi shut10 optimization my pc.. and i also upgraded i5 4460 8gb ram with GTX 650 in 2014 and upgrading to GTX 1050ti in March 2019(2nd ouch🤪)
i don't think it's vista's fault that you paired it with something like pentium II tier. 1.1ghz celeron and 2gb ram seems to cut fine for it in my experience
That's the main reason Vista is so hated: crap/weak hardware. With a Core2 Duo and plenty of RAM (at least 2GB for 32-bit, and 4GB for 64-bit), paired with a fast HDD and a decent DirecX 10 video card, this operating system is really good!
Dawid Does Tech Stuff I love it. It’s such a beautiful OS. Way cooler looking than 7. And for me even better looking than 8/8.1 or 10. The xp style taskbar is amazing and the aero glass with the black tint is badass. But performance wise I have to agree. I may have never ran into bugs with Vista (yeah, unbelievable) and I used it up until 2 years ago on my inspiron 1420 (2007 laptop) but then support ended for chrome and all updates. And I couldn’t install my antiviruses and onedrives and whatnots and I upgraded to 7. Now I have put a cheap AliExpress 128gb SSD in it and upgraded the 2.5gb to 4gb of ram and Windows 10 64 bit runs smooth as butter. Not many fps in any games basically, but youtube in 720p 30 is great and all the basics are snappy. I do believe though Vista lived and died a terrible way, hated all the time, and it didn’t deserve it. If Vista would have lasted as long as 7 I’d still be using it.
@@deniahmetaj I wonder what OS people would rather if Microsoft did a Pole on Vista or 8, I too didn't mind vista, it was still very XP like but had a lot of the features that helped in everyday tasks, like Cut & Paste with Folder Merging from one drive to another (great for cleaning up & Mac still doesn't do it)
I actually liked Vista because I experienced it on a high end laptop my dad bought back in the day. The step up in visual style was outstanding. A lot of people hated Vista simply because it was so feature rich that it was nearly unusable on a below average computer of the era.
😂 I actually had that case! I had an atec before it that was from the days of "you can have any color you want so long as it's beige". So I was geeked to have a black case... And USB's up front! I was king! 😂 I remember the power supply (antec mighta been 300watt) would get so hot it'd shut down. My roommate and I drilled it apart flipped it upside down flipped the bays and riveted it all back together so the power supply was on the bottom... Of course this put the board upside down and always opened the wrong side when I needed to... Our other roommate came home and asked why we didn't just cut a hole in the top 🤦♂️ 😂
I still have a music production PC with Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit. I love and hate the thing. It's got a Core-2-Quad 2.41GHZ CPU, 4GB of RAM, a Radeon HD5850 GPU, and a 240GB SSD. It's WAYYYYY faster than gaming in Vista ever was, just because of the SSD. It's a BEAST of a relic, and it's actually a serviceable modern machine.
Modern cases are so much smarter in the way they have the components. With the power supply and hard drives on the bottom, you have all the space above for the hot components and airflow. Something older cases where like "yeah, whatever" lol.
Few coworkers and I did a throwback vista rig build a few months ago. Coworker did a "high-mid" vista rig with a Q6600 and a 9800 GTX. I did a "High end" build with a launch i7 965 EE with a fat zalman copper cooler, intel Dx58so board with triple channel memory (horizontal layout), GTX 285, a WD velociraptor C drive and a WD Black D drive.
This old tech always interests me. It's well before my times of getting into PC building. I started when the RX 580 was a thing and that was my first GPU. My cat loves my pc just like yours too lmao. She rubs her face all over the area around the exhaust fan.
Never had an issue with vista. I always felt lucky. I have a machine almost like this that I replaced with a 500gb ssd and gtx 550ti I got at a yard sale for 20 bucks. Use it as a retro system now. Runs win7.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Windows 10 is gonna Die with a HDD, when you do the test can you show the Disc Usage % in Task Manager, when I first upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 my PC was sooooo slooooow & I had a look trying to work out why, Disc usage was hitting 100% on a 7200RPM Hitachi HDD
@@therantman4120 G'day, XP & Vista 32bit has a ram limit of 4GB, nothing to do with the Board limit it is the limit for the OS, Have you OCed a Core 2 CPU before it is fun, they used a mixture of Multiplier & various Bus speeds (200MHz, 266MHZ, 333MHZ) to get their frequency, the nonX CPUs have a minimum multiplier of 6 & a fixed multiplier Maximum depending on the CPU (generally between 8-15) so you OC with the Bus Speed, but you have to watch your RAM clocks as the Bus speed affects them too, it is very different to a modern CPU which the Bus Speed is 100MHz with minimal adjustment & you use the multiplier to get frequency boost
@@shaneeslick hey bud. Thank you for the pro tips btw. I have seen a literal brick oced. The only limitation is the software he is running. The board is new and i think its a latency issue. The ddr2 is by no means a speedway but it can be fixed. Im not an expert just an enthusiast.
I always liked Vista. We bought a brand new PC that year with an Athlon x4 635 and 6gb ram. Ran smooth as butter. Everyone i knew complaining about Vista was rocking a P4 and 2gb ram. I certainly do think 7 is better, as well as the best OS ever made, but i never had a reason to dislike Vista. Fun fact, our previous PC which we replaced, had Windows ME, which i also liked and never understood the hate for. I didn't have any DOS stuff to worry about backwards compatibility for though.
No, no. P4 with 2 gb ram is quite good for Vista, especially with proper tuning. Most complaints were made from Celeron D 250 owners with an i915g motherboard and 512 mb ram and no external graphics installed. Actually, too optimistic intel specs for 915 graphics killed the most beautiful and reliable OS We are still using under the name Win 10.
@@igorzherebiatev5751 I'll take your word for it I didn't know much about pcs back then just that single core rigs with not enough ram were the ones that had issues with Vista.
I had that motherboard with initially an e8400 and an 8600GTS, but I was a baller so I had 1TB hard drives for both Windows Vista and Mac OS X Lion and 8GB of Corsair XMS2 1066. The processor would happily overclock to 3.42 without any voltage and 4.3 with some voltage (I wanna say 1.42 but I don't remember). CPU cooled with a CM Hyper212. Worked well at the time but I wanted more, more more, so I added the q9650 with an OC to 3.7, swapped the Hyper212 to a CM V8, added SSDs for booting, and upgraded my video card from the 8600GTS to a Radeon 5750 to a Radeon 6870 and later upgraded to a GTX780 (they had to be Mac OS compatible was the only rule with video cards). For being what it was (midrange board meant for office work), that motherboard wasn't really that bad. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
I've had success with baking relatively old GPUs back into life in the past. Its not advisable, but a brief stint in the oven can reflow old solder joints. I sprayed mine down with 70% alcohol solution and washed it thoroughly and then cooked it for 7-8 minutes.
Most older computers didn't have an exhaust fan and instead used the power supply as the exhaust because most of the components didn't get hot enough to merit it usually Until the GHZ & core count races began
The good news though from what I've seen is that even a PC with those specs will run Windows 10 just fine. Pretty much any PC that's at least a Core 2 Duo or better with at least 4 gb ram will handle Windows 10 with no problems, sure you wouldn't be able to play all the latest games, but at least for lighter tasks like web browsing, RUclips playback, email, Facebook, and office work will do fine as well as some older or light casual games.
power supplies of that era had the ventilation in the back and they werent even that sensitive to high temperatures anyway. you were more likely to have one fail from a faulty cap than overheat
The PS was mounted in the top so that its fan would exhaust all the hot case air. Systems weren't generating as much heat back then so it wasn't an issue.
I...was a big fan of Vista. I like the look and feel and my system performed well using it with an Athlon X2 (something in the middle), 4GB DDRII 800, and a 7900GS.
Pro tip next time you try this, use GOG games! Their installers work even on my Windows XP machine (with the added benefit that I can install them from USB so I don't have to connect Windows XP to the internet) and they don't require Steam running in the background and hogging up precious low-end resources.
I recently used a Vista laptop. It is my aunt's and it didn't want to load anything (even explorer.exe) on boot so I had to fix it in safe mode. But after that the laptop seemed a lot faster than a Windows 10 laptop with quad core Celeron CPU that I had borrowed. The Vista laptop has a single core 1.8Ghz AMD CPU, some nVidia GPU, about 2GBs of RAM and a HDD. It boots fast into Windows even with a HDD and the Windows applications open almost instantly. It can browse internet pretty easily but RUclips video playback gets laggy with 480p and up. I was quite surprised because even with a Single core CPU and an old HDD it was a quite decent experience.
Hey Dawid interesting video. I used to have a p45 gigabyte chipset with E8600. Later on upgraded to a Q9650 when chips were cheaper. Used for many years then sold it to friend who used it for many years more with a GTX 660. There is ddr3 support for these 775 socket motherboards as well. (hybrid models) Brings back memories seeing this video. My first Intel from Conroe was E6750 with a gigabyte P35 chipset. (I know that one is still running today)
For systems of this era the heat problem with the top mounted power supply wasn’t a big issue. It wasn’t until the early 2010’s where it started to be an issue with cards such as the GTX 280 and GTX 480. On another I’ve recently built a Vista gaming pc with an e8600 core 2 duo, 8gb of DDR3, an Asus P5K3 Deluxe, and it currently has a 9600 GT from XFX.
My first rig was similar to this. A small company prebuilt with an e6750 and 8600gt 256mb with 2gb ddr2 667. Hard drive was definitely a limiting factor. It ran cod 4 at 1440x900 decent settings nicely, great times playing that instead of studying!
This was almost the exact timeframe I built my first gaming PC, started with a Q6600, and a GTX 9600 GSO and I think 8GB of RAM, could play Crysis which I was aiming for, but I ended up playing games like Mirror's Edge a lot more. tbh I actually liked Vista a lot, my PC was decent enough spec to not have issues that some legacy systems had when they upgraded, and I only encountered a few compatability issues with older software designed for XP and older, Windows 7 was a much more mature version of what Vista tried to do and I ended up using 7 from about 2014 to this year. I didn't experience any negative effects of Steam cutting off support for Windows 7 personally, some new games like 40K Darktide and RDR2 didn't run, but a lot of other games that claimed to no longer support Win 7 ran just fine, it was only a PSU or motherboard issue that stopped me using it and forced me to stop procrastinating over building a new PC.
You've convinced me (although I've wanted to badly for a LONG TIME) to rebuild/buy/upgrade a Vista PC. I used to have this (first 'built' PC): - Raidmax Sagitta 1 Case (BEST EVER FOR ITS TIME, EXCLUDING ALIENWARE!) - Pentium E5200 - GIGABYTE (unknown) MB - Unknown first NVIDIA (underperforming 8000-series?) GPU, then later SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 5770 - Corsair Dominator 4GB 2x2G DDR2 800Mhz - Unknown SATA HDD (160/250/320GB most likely) - Raidmax (included) 320/500W(?) PSU * Windows Vista (from Beta to SP2), then Windows 7
775 was a great era, there were some really really good bang for buck builds at that time (i did more builds in that period than i think i've done any other), these days everything comes "overclocked as standard" and doesn't even run as standard if you don't vet compatibilities, we've actually gone backwards on making sure hardware just works out the box in favour of maximum extreme (insert term) performance out of the box.
I get your rant about Power supply positioning, but Back then even high end systems used only 300 Watt. So IT IS pretty smart to use the PSU AS an exhaust.
G'day Dawid, I have a PC for Windows XP, I use it for converting Cassettes & Records to MP3, VHS to MP4, plus I also have a Scanner that does an awesome job scanning 35mm film & slides that only runs on XP also, I love knowing that parts so old are still doing an Awesome Job & are not Landfill just because there are newer ones available, I made it from hardware that was taken from PCs I upgraded for other people so it cost me nothing to build 😁, it has a Q9650@3.6GHz, 4GB DDR2@800MHz, Gigabyte G33M & GTX260SOC, IDE Lightscribe DVD Burner, 250GB & 1TB Spinning Disc Drives, Coolermaster 120MM AIO & I use my original 17" CRT screen from my P4 XP PC (XP is also activated with this original Key), I also use it to play some old games which are on Disc like C&C Generals & Zoo Tycoon as my new gaming PC doesn't have a DVD drive & I still enjoy these games, My next Retro Build is a roughly 2012 Beast, So far I have got a i7-2700K, Gigabyte Z68 & GTX680SOC Windforce 5, I was looking at going HEDT for CPU but here in Australia decent motherboards are ridiculously expensive where as you can still find a bargain with LGA1155
I can confirm its the HDD that is probably causing most of the slowdowns. There is a reason i spent like $200 on a 40gb SSD back then. Worth every penny. SSDs where by far the biggest general usability upgrade you could get at the time.
Oh man, in 2007 I was STILL rocking an early Windows XP PC from late 2001. It had a 1.5GHz Willamette CPU, DFI NB32-SC mobo, 1x 256MB PC133 SDRAM, ATI Rage 128 Ultra 32MB AGP and a 20GB WD HDD. #LivingTheDream In 2008 I upgraded to a 24" iMac (8,1), which was a night and day difference in performance. Still got it. Right now I'm near the end of building a Win XP-era retro gaming PC. It's more like an upgrade of my old machine with a 3 GHz Prescott 478 CPU (SL7E4), Zalman CNPS9500 LED cooler, Gigabyte GA-8I865GME mobo, 2x 1GB DDR400, Palit GeForce 7600 GT 256MB AGP and a 160GB Hitachi HD. I just need to get a PSU (I thinking a Thermaltake Smart BX1 series), maybe a new case, and I'm done!
My 'old' 2005 PC that I quite happily ran (but used for friends to use when I built my new one in 2016), until I think the PSU gave up the ghost, and yet to fit a spare one to see if that was the cause. I was happy with it running Vista 64bit (which I actually liked, and everyone hated), for the internet and playing games, old ones, and the new(to me) World of Tanks, and rarely had any problems with it, and like I say, I only stopped running it daily when until it broke I, but still had my 'new' one to use. I really must fit a spare PSU into it, but never seem to get around to it, so it is just sitting on the floor in my 'man cave' collecting dust along with its monitor. It still have the discs for 32/64bit Vista Home, and want to try to install it again, but worried about drivers for it, as it would be running on my Gigabyte G1 Gaming motherboard, i7 6700K cpu, 16GB memory, GF GTX 980Ti, and SSD's, and M.2 Samsung Pro Nvme drives.
Windows 98 with 256 Mb of RAM was a rocket at that time, Windows XP with 1 or better with 2 Gb of RAM was another rocket and with Windows Vista 64bit (4 Gb of RAM, Intel Q8300 and AMD 3850 with 265 Mb) I played Crysis, Darksiders, and whole series of Assassins Creed. With this last configuration, I used Windows 8.0 and 8.1 for a while and after that, I used Windows 10. Greetings from Norway
I use Windows vista on a Dell XPS 720 but I decided not to use a HDD, instead I use a SSD plugged into a Dell Perc SAS controller and it works really well.
PSU on top makes sense once you consider that for a while the power draw of PCs was much lower and often the PSU fan was the only exhaust fan on the whole thing.
This is exactly why they were top mounted, to aid a single 80mm exhaust fan in the back. I can't believe he brought up PSU temps a half dozen times as if they ever get hot enough to matter. That's like talking about RAM cooling lmao
Most of the time that worked fine. I had that case and an antec ps that would overheat though. Case I had before that one I clearly remember cutting a hole in the back of it for a fan 😂
Reminds me of my fist custom PC. Spent a pretty penny in it. E6600, 2GB ram, 8800gts 640mb and 320gb HDD. Served me well from 2007-2011. Played wow and source games like a champ
The most interesting thing with Vista is that, with every. single. windows-vista-related video, about 90% of comments are "unpopular opinion, but I loved windows vista.". Guys, 90% is not unpopular, most people who used it liked vista, because for the most part, those who didn't like it, surprise surprise, didn't use it. The latter shoudn't have a say in our collective memory anymore, it's been 13 years! I'm a 2001, so Vista is my childhood OS. We did used XP and 7 a bit, but Vista was the one I had on my own PC, and my favorite by far. I didn't have internet often at the time, due to being generally at my grandma, so I spent all time exploring the OS itself, making movies in movie maker (I had one of those pocket kodak camcorders) with way too many effects and transitions, and making DVDs ofthose, listening to the sample music again and again and to the one(1) CD I had with the windows media player visualisations, playing inkball and purble place and mahjong and teaching solitaire to my grandma, personalizing the stuff, actually reading the help (I didn't know people didn't do that), breaking the help system (I still dunno how I did that), making wordart-heavy documents in MS word, playing educative CD-ROMs, using paint... Good old days. I still have that PC. When an OS just comes out, people look at it from an utilitarian perspective, how fast it runs, boring stuff... Vista didn't spare well on that point on 2007 hardware (although by 2008 it was completely fine). But this doesn't matter after a decade, and we tend to forget about that stuff. After a while, you start remembering the OS by its Stuff: the default wallpapers, the music and sound schemes, the theme, the built-in games, the inbox applications (especially the creative ones like paint and movie maker), the visualizations and skins and gadgets... The stuff that people who while about bloat want removed, the stuff the European Commission wants removed, the stuff that really matters once the dust has settled. Vista nailed them all, probably in the most unique way, certainly in the most complete way. IMO, regarding the OS-Stuff, the XP-Vista-7 trio are the ones most of us will remember. They represent an era where there was more room on your PC than on the cloud, one where your PC came with everything you didn't know you'd need, and some that's just here but that you love (OK W7 needed live essentials to be complete but most manufacturers put it here anyways). Computers have been boring since that Stuff has been gone, since we targeted minimalism and browsers-for-everything. I still live at my grandma and I still have unreliable internet connexion, so I've filled my new PC with some old OS-stuff, because it ought to be here. @Microsoft if you hear me, get rid out of the 3rd-party stuff, and give us some new and improved 1st-party Stuff
Im soon building a similar system for vista gaming, this video was good It was probably unstable due to the ram, when you change the fsb the ram speed changes too, so i suggest putting the dram multiplier to the lowest setting and try to match its default speed
Swap this hdd with 2,5 inch lap top hdd and there you have it. And.... There is a thing called low spec gaming... There is an optimization for every game and how to run it on a old pc. Steam is for begginers. Love your chanel, doe. You have a great sense of humor. I love that.
Back then components had low TDP so The PSU's fan was used to carry that not too hot air out of the case. But when components became more and more power hungry the PSU was moved at the bottom of the case. It is just tradition until improvement is needed.
Some games I played on this specific hardware, back in '07/'08; Company of Heroes, Silent Hunter 3, FSX, Far Cry 2(might even be '09), Crysis of course. It was a stuttery mess across the board, even at 1280x1024 or some horrible 4:3 aspect ratio. It's insane looking back at it.
I still have that case and rock it!!! i have a directional heat sink on my cpu, that blows it at the rear fan! so hopefully not too much is washed through the power supply
I actually *loved* using Vista (I had the Ultimate 64 bits version). Contrary to what most people say about it, I never had any major issues with this O/S and I kept using it a loooong time (till 2019 actually). I feel like I'm one of the very few to like it but I don't care lmao. Now I'm still on Seven, and I still use it as a daily driver. I use Win 10 only for a very few games that don't like it (or are not patched yet for compatibility with Windows 7).
That cpu did overclock like a demon. I think the world record was almost 4.9ghz. and without extreme solutions, many people easily hit 3.7-4ghz on that bad boy. Man that style of cpu heatsink from back then looked so cool but we're incredibly inefficient at dissipating heat lmao
Finally. A gaming build I can beat.
Pretty much any PC can beat it as long as you can run a game first try. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Even the Ten Core Gaming PC feels Superior with a smug look on it's face in the corner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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my laptop is still slower
story of my life
4GB RAM?! Look at Mr. Fancypants over here with his mid range Vista machine. I think I was rocking an XP with 768mb RAM in 2007 🤣
Hahaha!! I know right. Really blew the budget in RAM.
768Mb wasn't too bad. 😁
Really? I had 3gigs (2.5 usable) on a k7n2 delta 462 mobo in 2003-2004 PC stuff where cheap then
Believe it or not, I had 96 Mb unill late 2006 (on a Pentium II 266 machine)...
In 2008 I had 4x1Gb 1066mhz dominator on a e8400 dual core, it rocked
I was born in 2007
That cooler is so sick
It really is awesome. 😃
@@DawidDoesTechStuff ive been after one of the Spin Q coolers for quite some time. As im trying to build a Ultimate Win Xp gaming machine for my disk based games. But cant find one anywhere lol
That cooler can cool a Threadripper at ~67⁰C. 😂
thats actually disgusting i love it
Nothing like a bit of disgusting PC. 😁
Ah, finally, some computer nostalgia for someone my age! The time of Vista was when I got into computers, but XP was a more popular OS and 7 was just around the corner so I barely got to use it 😂
Haha!! Same here, I would mostly just read about how terrible it was.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff yeah lol, I think I only used vista twice, and one of those times was on a CRT monitor. It was pretty awful haha
You young millenials have no idea about the pain of Windows ME, better known as Windows...Millennium Edition. Haha
@@DannyWilliamH Yep it was Even worst than the win 98 first edition ... I was happy with the win 95c, happy because i didnt have to remember the old dos commands anymore!
@@DawidDoesTechStuff blind hate confirmed pmuch?
Hi Dawid, watching this brought back so many nostalgic memories for me. The C2D e6300 was also my very first processor placed into an XP SP2 gaming build. This must have been around 2006/7 and at the time had an Nvidia FX5200 in it for some absolute epic beast mode gaming performance (lol) and a whopping 1GB system memory at DDR2 667mhz FTW! I worked at McDonalds on the weekends and worked in an IT apprenticeship in the week. Saved up and bought each part weekly. Playing Battlefield 2 on it, the original Farcry, Modern Warfare (Original) Call of Duty 2. (Might have some of those games mixed up in terms of dates but you get the picture) Ahh those days seem like a lifetime ago. Next PC was the Core 2 Quad Q6600. Now that was a BEAST and paired with the 8800GTS, (could never afford the GTX model) played Crysis like a boss! Ah Great times. Could talk for hours, would love to talk to you one day, keep up the great work, fun content, and keep the Mrs happy, it's really nice she involves herself and supports you. Happy building and gaming buddy! - Jake "since 1990".
I miss you
Lol a cat peed on that case and someone cleaned it. That's a cat pee computer.
Hahaha!! That is definitely what happened.
Hahahaha what a terrifying realization. I have a cat pee computer in my home. Great. Thanks Dawid.
Imma be honest, I'd through out the whole cat.
LitterBox Vista
i love the old tech videos, it's fun to watch. Make more.
I am glad you enjoyed it! 👍
"Today I'm going to infect a PC..."
-Wonder which kind of virus he'll have at hand, he's such a nice person...
"...with Windows Vista."
-Oh, we woke up in full Satan mode today, huh?
Haha!! Yeah I was feeling real evil. 😂
-Oh well, it's holding together, that's nice. Maybe he's not as evil as I thought...
"Let's run Crysis on this."
-Hello? The Vatican? May I speak with the pope? I think I have found the Anti-Christ you were looking for...
Vista wasn't that bad
@@IanC14 Oh yes it was and by the time it got a bit better, 7 was out, making it totaly useless. Definitely the worst Os of the last two decades...
@e False yourself - quads were already out and it ran crap on them as well.
I remember building my first rig with vista! Had a 3.0 ghz core 2 duo, 4gb of ddr2 800, and an ATI 2600XT 256mb. Those were the days. :D
was it infected with windows vista?
Ah, Vista-still have my upgrade DVD still in the box!
I still have my OEM copy lurking around downstairs
Aaaaaand it never left the box!
A lot of people talk about vista, but forgot it has SP1 and SP2 (the sims 3 on retail release crashes if you didn't have updated to Service Pack 1 at least).
I have really come to enjoy this channel. I have one request that you only take into consideration if you ever see this. When your channel inevitably grows to the point that major manufacturers want to send you their new parts, don't just become every other boring review channel. While I understand some of it is necessary to play the game, I also really enjoy how this channel is fun and creative and not like every other channel. You and Anna both make this channel a nice balance of tech and fun without being stale. I apologize if this comes off as pandering lol.
agreed,,right now its a boutique channel,,and i love it
Well I think you are in luck ☺️ he has a way better time making this content than the traditional review style stuff. He quite often turns down requests from manufacturers for review requests because they aren’t just boring to watch but boring to make too 😂
So as long as people are watching his ridiculous videos (100% in line with his personality btw) then he should be able to continue the way he is doing things now 👌🏻🐈👱🏻♀️
Thank you for the nice words and taking the time to voice your concerns.
I have realized that when I do the more standard review style videos that they gain much less attention. So I will always try to use all the components in the nost interesting way possible. Besides those review videos are also much more boring to make. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff aww! I love that you both took the time to respond. I meant everything with the utmost respect. Im not saying don't do them at all. Like I said, you gotta play the game at some levels in order to keep everyone happy and your viewers understand that. Im just saying don't lose your love for the fun because it's just as enjoyable for us. Anna is always a great cameo too. I really enjoy the jokes and charm of the channel and maybe im just scared of losing it. Cheers you two!
@@AnnaDoes 😁😎👍🙆♂️🍻
This is awesome, I got almost this exact PC one Christmas it was my very first pc I built with my dad a different mobo and case but the rest is basically the same. This brought back some great memories, I’ve still got this processor and GPU but sadly the mobo died
I still have that hdd STILL WORKS TODAY and i have used it lots
Love older PC builds like this!
imagine a virus that makes your pc run windows vista by mutating it into windows vista that would be a hell of a virus
This takes me back lol. I was so excited to get my Core 2 Quad.
what i really love about the old era hardware: it was a time, when... all you needed to play pretty much ANY game was just a ANY gpu really. The difference between a standard midrange card and THE HIGHEND beast was: antialiasing. but if you just turn off anti aliasing on the midrange card and turn on anti aliasing on the highend card, the games pretty much ran exactly the same. You only have 100 bucks instead of 400? whatever just turn off anti aliasing and you re fine...you ll get the exact same experience out of it. today is like: buy anything but this overpriced highend stuff and this new game isnt even remotely playable. I remember in school when Doom3 released and it was said to be THE HARDWARE KILLER in like any pc magazine out there and i bought myself an Nvidia 6600GT wich was a super value entrylvl beast..kinda reminds me of how the gtx 970 was a value beast, and on any lan partys friends camped my pc because they wanted to play doom3 and my system was the only one who could run it and it wasnt just ''running'' but it was running GREAT. Can you imagine you buy something like a gtx 1060 or something and everyone wants to play at your 1060 pc because its the best pc in town? back then an entry lvl or midrange card was all you ever need to impress your friends, today an entry or midrange card is barely enough to play a game at stable 30 fps lol...
My Vista era PC was about 2009 vintage. It was an i7 920, ASUS Rampage II Gene, 12GB(6x2GB) DDR3-1333 triple channel, GTX 260. It ran well on Vista, but I upgraded to Win 7. I kept that PC for years and it eventually got a GTX 660 Ti at a midlife upgrade. It could even smoothly handle games like Skyrim and Fallout 4 with moderate mods and medium to high settings.
oh man the shredder cooler, the golden era of air cooling
I'm pretty sure the Geneva convention considers installing Vista in 2020 a crime against humanity.
Idea for a video: evolution on case tendencies (psu location, ventilation holes, drive cages, etc.)
It's nice to see a youtuber doing videos like this . All i see nowdays are high end pc videos with overclocking and 'THE BEST PC
BUILD FOR NOW' . Builds like this reminds me of how i played age of empires back then . Great game btw
I still remember the day when i first installed vista on my p4 with 1gb ram.. it was running like 15 fps on desktop without opening any software😬
Oh wow! That is pretty scary. Vista really was a bit of a PC melter in it's own right.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff the first time i really started using it when i got c2d e7400 and 9400gt(ouch🤪) but after some month's 7 came out it became my friend until recently 2 yrs ago when i changed to win10 finally! But with win10privacy and ioi shut10 optimization my pc.. and i also upgraded i5 4460 8gb ram with GTX 650 in 2014 and upgrading to GTX 1050ti in March 2019(2nd ouch🤪)
i don't think it's vista's fault that you paired it with something like pentium II tier. 1.1ghz celeron and 2gb ram seems to cut fine for it in my experience
That's the main reason Vista is so hated: crap/weak hardware. With a Core2 Duo and plenty of RAM (at least 2GB for 32-bit, and 4GB for 64-bit), paired with a fast HDD and a decent DirecX 10 video card, this operating system is really good!
@@GameplayUnboxed lucky your old pc is still better than my current pc
Workaround for getting steam games to work in description? I don't see it
I love how you said infect it with windows vista lol. An old friend of mine is obsessed with vista and thinks it's the best lol.
Haha!! Its interesting how some people do seem to like it.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff I love it. It’s such a beautiful OS. Way cooler looking than 7. And for me even better looking than 8/8.1 or 10. The xp style taskbar is amazing and the aero glass with the black tint is badass. But performance wise I have to agree. I may have never ran into bugs with Vista (yeah, unbelievable) and I used it up until 2 years ago on my inspiron 1420 (2007 laptop) but then support ended for chrome and all updates. And I couldn’t install my antiviruses and onedrives and whatnots and I upgraded to 7. Now I have put a cheap AliExpress 128gb SSD in it and upgraded the 2.5gb to 4gb of ram and Windows 10 64 bit runs smooth as butter. Not many fps in any games basically, but youtube in 720p 30 is great and all the basics are snappy. I do believe though Vista lived and died a terrible way, hated all the time, and it didn’t deserve it. If Vista would have lasted as long as 7 I’d still be using it.
@@deniahmetaj I wonder what OS people would rather if Microsoft did a Pole on Vista or 8,
I too didn't mind vista, it was still very XP like but had a lot of the features that helped in everyday tasks, like Cut & Paste with Folder Merging from one drive to another (great for cleaning up & Mac still doesn't do it)
I actually liked Vista because I experienced it on a high end laptop my dad bought back in the day. The step up in visual style was outstanding. A lot of people hated Vista simply because it was so feature rich that it was nearly unusable on a below average computer of the era.
@@shaneeslick Pretty certain doing 'a Pole on Vista or 8' would be illegal, and possibly a crime against humanity. A poll would be a different matter.
Windows vista is the best operating system ever
😂 I actually had that case! I had an atec before it that was from the days of "you can have any color you want so long as it's beige". So I was geeked to have a black case... And USB's up front! I was king! 😂 I remember the power supply (antec mighta been 300watt) would get so hot it'd shut down. My roommate and I drilled it apart flipped it upside down flipped the bays and riveted it all back together so the power supply was on the bottom... Of course this put the board upside down and always opened the wrong side when I needed to... Our other roommate came home and asked why we didn't just cut a hole in the top 🤦♂️ 😂
I still have a music production PC with Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit. I love and hate the thing. It's got a Core-2-Quad 2.41GHZ CPU, 4GB of RAM, a Radeon HD5850 GPU, and a 240GB SSD. It's WAYYYYY faster than gaming in Vista ever was, just because of the SSD. It's a BEAST of a relic, and it's actually a serviceable modern machine.
as someone who worked with Windows Me, I can tell you Vista is absolutely fine.
Modern cases are so much smarter in the way they have the components. With the power supply and hard drives on the bottom, you have all the space above for the hot components and airflow. Something older cases where like "yeah, whatever" lol.
Few coworkers and I did a throwback vista rig build a few months ago. Coworker did a "high-mid" vista rig with a Q6600 and a 9800 GTX. I did a "High end" build with a launch i7 965 EE with a fat zalman copper cooler, intel Dx58so board with triple channel memory (horizontal layout), GTX 285, a WD velociraptor C drive and a WD Black D drive.
This old tech always interests me. It's well before my times of getting into PC building. I started when the RX 580 was a thing and that was my first GPU.
My cat loves my pc just like yours too lmao. She rubs her face all over the area around the exhaust fan.
kitty seems to like the vista build 7:43
Vista was an infection? Oh yes, I remember now - right you are, carry on then!
During Vista era, playing 1280x1024 at 30FPS is considered high-end spec...
Never had an issue with vista. I always felt lucky. I have a machine almost like this that I replaced with a 500gb ssd and gtx 550ti I got at a yard sale for 20 bucks. Use it as a retro system now.
Runs win7.
"Successfully infected with Windows Vista" haha
Why didn't you try an SSD in the system. That might have been interesting!
I will do it in a follow up video. I want to compare a brand new PC with that HDD to that PC with an SSD.
Also please upgrade the ram to full capacity and the fastest you can make it. Heck, watercool the cpu and rev it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Windows 10 is gonna Die with a HDD, when you do the test can you show the Disc Usage % in Task Manager, when I first upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 my PC was sooooo slooooow & I had a look trying to work out why, Disc usage was hitting 100% on a 7200RPM Hitachi HDD
@@therantman4120 G'day, XP & Vista 32bit has a ram limit of 4GB, nothing to do with the Board limit it is the limit for the OS,
Have you OCed a Core 2 CPU before it is fun, they used a mixture of Multiplier & various Bus speeds (200MHz, 266MHZ, 333MHZ) to get their frequency, the nonX CPUs have a minimum multiplier of 6 & a fixed multiplier Maximum depending on the CPU (generally between 8-15) so you OC with the Bus Speed, but you have to watch your RAM clocks as the Bus speed affects them too,
it is very different to a modern CPU which the Bus Speed is 100MHz with minimal adjustment & you use the multiplier to get frequency boost
@@shaneeslick hey bud. Thank you for the pro tips btw. I have seen a literal brick oced. The only limitation is the software he is running. The board is new and i think its a latency issue. The ddr2 is by no means a speedway but it can be fixed. Im not an expert just an enthusiast.
That motherboard takes me back to the first PC build I ever did. The thing caught on fire a few years later... good times.
I always liked Vista. We bought a brand new PC that year with an Athlon x4 635 and 6gb ram. Ran smooth as butter. Everyone i knew complaining about Vista was rocking a P4 and 2gb ram. I certainly do think 7 is better, as well as the best OS ever made, but i never had a reason to dislike Vista. Fun fact, our previous PC which we replaced, had Windows ME, which i also liked and never understood the hate for. I didn't have any DOS stuff to worry about backwards compatibility for though.
No, no. P4 with 2 gb ram is quite good for Vista, especially with proper tuning. Most complaints were made from Celeron D 250 owners with an i915g motherboard and 512 mb ram and no external graphics installed.
Actually, too optimistic intel specs for 915 graphics killed the most beautiful and reliable OS We are still using under the name Win 10.
@@igorzherebiatev5751 I'll take your word for it I didn't know much about pcs back then just that single core rigs with not enough ram were the ones that had issues with Vista.
That cooler is pretty damn awesome looking
Steam no longer works on 32bit Linux full stop, so I can't even in home stream to my old netbook anymore
you have the best intro music, I must say
Thank you. 😃
It’s get stuck in my head all day every video
Finally a Windows Vista gaming pc I love it
I had that motherboard with initially an e8400 and an 8600GTS, but I was a baller so I had 1TB hard drives for both Windows Vista and Mac OS X Lion and 8GB of Corsair XMS2 1066. The processor would happily overclock to 3.42 without any voltage and 4.3 with some voltage (I wanna say 1.42 but I don't remember). CPU cooled with a CM Hyper212. Worked well at the time but I wanted more, more more, so I added the q9650 with an OC to 3.7, swapped the Hyper212 to a CM V8, added SSDs for booting, and upgraded my video card from the 8600GTS to a Radeon 5750 to a Radeon 6870 and later upgraded to a GTX780 (they had to be Mac OS compatible was the only rule with video cards).
For being what it was (midrange board meant for office work), that motherboard wasn't really that bad. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Haha ol vista! Gotta love it :) awsome video man!!
I've had success with baking relatively old GPUs back into life in the past. Its not advisable, but a brief stint in the oven can reflow old solder joints. I sprayed mine down with 70% alcohol solution and washed it thoroughly and then cooked it for 7-8 minutes.
Most older computers didn't have an exhaust fan and instead used the power supply as the exhaust because most of the components didn't get hot enough to merit it usually Until the GHZ & core count races began
The good news though from what I've seen is that even a PC with those specs will run Windows 10 just fine. Pretty much any PC that's at least a Core 2 Duo or better with at least 4 gb ram will handle Windows 10 with no problems, sure you wouldn't be able to play all the latest games, but at least for lighter tasks like web browsing, RUclips playback, email, Facebook, and office work will do fine as well as some older or light casual games.
power supplies of that era had the ventilation in the back and they werent even that sensitive to high temperatures anyway. you were more likely to have one fail from a faulty cap than overheat
The PS was mounted in the top so that its fan would exhaust all the hot case air. Systems weren't generating as much heat back then so it wasn't an issue.
I...was a big fan of Vista. I like the look and feel and my system performed well using it with an Athlon X2 (something in the middle), 4GB DDRII 800, and a 7900GS.
I like how he took out 2 of the pcie slot things for a single slot gpu
My first ever PC was a P3 running at 533Mhz IIRC - Holy hell we've come a long way since those days!
I actually like Vista
don't let the nostalgia get you
@@XeonIsWeird never used vista in its day. I have no nostalgia for it.
in the legendary story they said he could never do it, But to everyone's surprise he did it and admitted he did it, He vista'd his life for us! ♥
Pro tip next time you try this, use GOG games! Their installers work even on my Windows XP machine (with the added benefit that I can install them from USB so I don't have to connect Windows XP to the internet) and they don't require Steam running in the background and hogging up precious low-end resources.
I recently used a Vista laptop. It is my aunt's and it didn't want to load anything (even explorer.exe) on boot so I had to fix it in safe mode. But after that the laptop seemed a lot faster than a Windows 10 laptop with quad core Celeron CPU that I had borrowed.
The Vista laptop has a single core 1.8Ghz AMD CPU, some nVidia GPU, about 2GBs of RAM and a HDD.
It boots fast into Windows even with a HDD and the Windows applications open almost instantly.
It can browse internet pretty easily but RUclips video playback gets laggy with 480p and up.
I was quite surprised because even with a Single core CPU and an old HDD it was a quite decent experience.
I had good laptop in vista times and I really remember it really nicely, I remember being super happy with how the sytem looked
What about an update - Vista on a beast machine? Would Vista have been good in 2007 with today's hardware?!~
Hey Dawid interesting video. I used to have a p45 gigabyte chipset with E8600. Later on upgraded to a Q9650 when chips were cheaper. Used for many years then sold it to friend who used it for many years more with a GTX 660. There is ddr3 support for these 775 socket motherboards as well. (hybrid models) Brings back memories seeing this video. My first Intel from Conroe was E6750 with a gigabyte P35 chipset. (I know that one is still running today)
Definitely put that hard drive in a modern computer but also try putting a SSD in this one and see what it does.
When you rewind this hard, it feels like my skin recedes back with the tech
For systems of this era the heat problem with the top mounted power supply wasn’t a big issue. It wasn’t until the early 2010’s where it started to be an issue with cards such as the GTX 280 and GTX 480. On another I’ve recently built a Vista gaming pc with an e8600 core 2 duo, 8gb of DDR3, an Asus P5K3 Deluxe, and it currently has a 9600 GT from XFX.
My first rig was similar to this. A small company prebuilt with an e6750 and 8600gt 256mb with 2gb ddr2 667. Hard drive was definitely a limiting factor. It ran cod 4 at 1440x900 decent settings nicely, great times playing that instead of studying!
This was almost the exact timeframe I built my first gaming PC, started with a Q6600, and a GTX 9600 GSO and I think 8GB of RAM, could play Crysis which I was aiming for, but I ended up playing games like Mirror's Edge a lot more.
tbh I actually liked Vista a lot, my PC was decent enough spec to not have issues that some legacy systems had when they upgraded, and I only encountered a few compatability issues with older software designed for XP and older, Windows 7 was a much more mature version of what Vista tried to do and I ended up using 7 from about 2014 to this year.
I didn't experience any negative effects of Steam cutting off support for Windows 7 personally, some new games like 40K Darktide and RDR2 didn't run, but a lot of other games that claimed to no longer support Win 7 ran just fine, it was only a PSU or motherboard issue that stopped me using it and forced me to stop procrastinating over building a new PC.
You've convinced me (although I've wanted to badly for a LONG TIME) to rebuild/buy/upgrade a Vista PC. I used to have this (first 'built' PC):
- Raidmax Sagitta 1 Case (BEST EVER FOR ITS TIME, EXCLUDING ALIENWARE!)
- Pentium E5200
- GIGABYTE (unknown) MB
- Unknown first NVIDIA (underperforming 8000-series?) GPU, then later SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 5770
- Corsair Dominator 4GB 2x2G DDR2 800Mhz
- Unknown SATA HDD (160/250/320GB most likely)
- Raidmax (included) 320/500W(?) PSU
* Windows Vista (from Beta to SP2), then Windows 7
"I am going to infect it with Windows Vista...”
Love it!
775 was a great era, there were some really really good bang for buck builds at that time (i did more builds in that period than i think i've done any other), these days everything comes "overclocked as standard" and doesn't even run as standard if you don't vet compatibilities, we've actually gone backwards on making sure hardware just works out the box in favour of maximum extreme (insert term) performance out of the box.
I only recently found this channel. I stayed because of things like "This hard drive is the PC equivalent of polio" Funniest shit ive heard in awhile.
Flash forward a year. It's 2021 and the world is still in rough shape. The only thing that can save it is Dawid making a Windows ME gaming PC.
That hard drive is the pc equivalent of polio got me .Those old drives used to do all kinds of crazy stuff.
08:30 broken needle in the hard disk drive. I can clearly hear it scraping the disks.
My 250GB WD Caviar SE makes the same sounds and it’s terrible slow
I get your rant about Power supply positioning, but Back then even high end systems used only 300 Watt. So IT IS pretty smart to use the PSU AS an exhaust.
I actually used to love Vista. Never had an issue with it. Especially after the service packs were released.
vista had memory problems without service pack update . was great after updating sp
G'day Dawid,
I have a PC for Windows XP, I use it for converting Cassettes & Records to MP3, VHS to MP4, plus I also have a Scanner that does an awesome job scanning 35mm film & slides that only runs on XP also, I love knowing that parts so old are still doing an Awesome Job & are not Landfill just because there are newer ones available,
I made it from hardware that was taken from PCs I upgraded for other people so it cost me nothing to build 😁,
it has a Q9650@3.6GHz, 4GB DDR2@800MHz, Gigabyte G33M & GTX260SOC, IDE Lightscribe DVD Burner, 250GB & 1TB Spinning Disc Drives, Coolermaster 120MM AIO & I use my original 17" CRT screen from my P4 XP PC (XP is also activated with this original Key), I also use it to play some old games which are on Disc like C&C Generals & Zoo Tycoon as my new gaming PC doesn't have a DVD drive & I still enjoy these games,
My next Retro Build is a roughly 2012 Beast, So far I have got a i7-2700K, Gigabyte Z68 & GTX680SOC Windforce 5, I was looking at going HEDT for CPU but here in Australia decent motherboards are ridiculously expensive where as you can still find a bargain with LGA1155
Already at 73k , wow this channel is growing FAST!!!!
I can confirm its the HDD that is probably causing most of the slowdowns. There is a reason i spent like $200 on a 40gb SSD back then. Worth every penny. SSDs where by far the biggest general usability upgrade you could get at the time.
That heat sink is a work of art. It should never be hidden by a black case.
I wonder if you still have this masterpiece somewhere
I have the exact same 9600GT. Nice video as always, a lot more interesting than the million Windows XP retro gaming PC build videos on youtube :)
My build for University had an Athlon 64 and a 8600GT. Felt like a monster back in the day haha
Oh man, in 2007 I was STILL rocking an early Windows XP PC from late 2001. It had a 1.5GHz Willamette CPU, DFI NB32-SC mobo, 1x 256MB PC133 SDRAM, ATI Rage 128 Ultra 32MB AGP and a 20GB WD HDD. #LivingTheDream
In 2008 I upgraded to a 24" iMac (8,1), which was a night and day difference in performance. Still got it.
Right now I'm near the end of building a Win XP-era retro gaming PC. It's more like an upgrade of my old machine with a 3 GHz Prescott 478 CPU (SL7E4), Zalman CNPS9500 LED cooler, Gigabyte GA-8I865GME mobo, 2x 1GB DDR400, Palit GeForce 7600 GT 256MB AGP and a 160GB Hitachi HD. I just need to get a PSU (I thinking a Thermaltake Smart BX1 series), maybe a new case, and I'm done!
My 'old' 2005 PC that I quite happily ran (but used for friends to use when I built my new one in 2016), until I think the PSU gave up the ghost, and yet to fit a spare one to see if that was the cause.
I was happy with it running Vista 64bit (which I actually liked, and everyone hated), for the internet and playing games, old ones, and the new(to me) World of Tanks, and rarely had any problems with it, and like I say, I only stopped running it daily when until it broke I, but still had my 'new' one to use.
I really must fit a spare PSU into it, but never seem to get around to it, so it is just sitting on the floor in my 'man cave' collecting dust along with its monitor.
It still have the discs for 32/64bit Vista Home, and want to try to install it again, but worried about drivers for it, as it would be running on my Gigabyte G1 Gaming motherboard, i7 6700K cpu, 16GB memory, GF GTX 980Ti, and SSD's, and M.2 Samsung Pro Nvme drives.
Windows 98 with 256 Mb of RAM was a rocket at that time, Windows XP with 1 or better with 2 Gb of RAM was another rocket and with Windows Vista 64bit (4 Gb of RAM, Intel Q8300 and AMD 3850 with 265 Mb) I played Crysis, Darksiders, and whole series of Assassins Creed. With this last configuration, I used Windows 8.0 and 8.1 for a while and after that, I used Windows 10. Greetings from Norway
I use Windows vista on a Dell XPS 720 but I decided not to use a HDD, instead I use a SSD plugged into a Dell Perc SAS controller and it works really well.
PSU on top makes sense once you consider that for a while the power draw of PCs was much lower and often the PSU fan was the only exhaust fan on the whole thing.
This is exactly why they were top mounted, to aid a single 80mm exhaust fan in the back. I can't believe he brought up PSU temps a half dozen times as if they ever get hot enough to matter. That's like talking about RAM cooling lmao
Most of the time that worked fine. I had that case and an antec ps that would overheat though. Case I had before that one I clearly remember cutting a hole in the back of it for a fan 😂
Reminds me of my fist custom PC. Spent a pretty penny in it. E6600, 2GB ram, 8800gts 640mb and 320gb HDD. Served me well from 2007-2011. Played wow and source games like a champ
„Ultimate mid range“ sounds like a you just created a paradox. BTW I maybe a paradox as well coz I liked Vista a lot!
The most interesting thing with Vista is that, with every. single. windows-vista-related video, about 90% of comments are "unpopular opinion, but I loved windows vista.". Guys, 90% is not unpopular, most people who used it liked vista, because for the most part, those who didn't like it, surprise surprise, didn't use it. The latter shoudn't have a say in our collective memory anymore, it's been 13 years!
I'm a 2001, so Vista is my childhood OS. We did used XP and 7 a bit, but Vista was the one I had on my own PC, and my favorite by far. I didn't have internet often at the time, due to being generally at my grandma, so I spent all time exploring the OS itself, making movies in movie maker (I had one of those pocket kodak camcorders) with way too many effects and transitions, and making DVDs ofthose, listening to the sample music again and again and to the one(1) CD I had with the windows media player visualisations, playing inkball and purble place and mahjong and teaching solitaire to my grandma, personalizing the stuff, actually reading the help (I didn't know people didn't do that), breaking the help system (I still dunno how I did that), making wordart-heavy documents in MS word, playing educative CD-ROMs, using paint... Good old days. I still have that PC.
When an OS just comes out, people look at it from an utilitarian perspective, how fast it runs, boring stuff... Vista didn't spare well on that point on 2007 hardware (although by 2008 it was completely fine). But this doesn't matter after a decade, and we tend to forget about that stuff. After a while, you start remembering the OS by its Stuff: the default wallpapers, the music and sound schemes, the theme, the built-in games, the inbox applications (especially the creative ones like paint and movie maker), the visualizations and skins and gadgets... The stuff that people who while about bloat want removed, the stuff the European Commission wants removed, the stuff that really matters once the dust has settled. Vista nailed them all, probably in the most unique way, certainly in the most complete way.
IMO, regarding the OS-Stuff, the XP-Vista-7 trio are the ones most of us will remember. They represent an era where there was more room on your PC than on the cloud, one where your PC came with everything you didn't know you'd need, and some that's just here but that you love (OK W7 needed live essentials to be complete but most manufacturers put it here anyways). Computers have been boring since that Stuff has been gone, since we targeted minimalism and browsers-for-everything. I still live at my grandma and I still have unreliable internet connexion, so I've filled my new PC with some old OS-stuff, because it ought to be here.
@Microsoft if you hear me, get rid out of the 3rd-party stuff, and give us some new and improved 1st-party Stuff
4:50 they did this because the PSU was often the only component that had a fan to exhaust air.
Im soon building a similar system for vista gaming, this video was good
It was probably unstable due to the ram, when you change the fsb the ram speed changes too, so i suggest putting the dram multiplier to the lowest setting and try to match its default speed
Swap this hdd with 2,5 inch lap top hdd and there you have it. And.... There is a thing called low spec gaming... There is an optimization for every game and how to run it on a old pc. Steam is for begginers.
Love your chanel, doe. You have a great sense of humor. I love that.
I know late to this party but Vista get's a crapton more reliable after SP1 is applied. Also get's quite a bit faster too.
Back then components had low TDP so The PSU's fan was used to carry that not too hot air out of the case. But when components became more and more power hungry the PSU was moved at the bottom of the case. It is just tradition until improvement is needed.
Some games I played on this specific hardware, back in '07/'08;
Company of Heroes, Silent Hunter 3, FSX, Far Cry 2(might even be '09), Crysis of course.
It was a stuttery mess across the board, even at 1280x1024 or some horrible 4:3 aspect ratio.
It's insane looking back at it.
I used to run the 6300 @ 3.5GHz 24/7 for years air-cooled. LEGENDARY
I still have that case and rock it!!! i have a directional heat sink on my cpu, that blows it at the rear fan! so hopefully not too much is washed through the power supply
I love very mutch Windows Vista on a modern Hi-Res 1080P monitor
I actually *loved* using Vista (I had the Ultimate 64 bits version). Contrary to what most people say about it, I never had any major issues with this O/S and I kept using it a loooong time (till 2019 actually). I feel like I'm one of the very few to like it but I don't care lmao. Now I'm still on Seven, and I still use it as a daily driver. I use Win 10 only for a very few games that don't like it (or are not patched yet for compatibility with Windows 7).
That cpu did overclock like a demon. I think the world record was almost 4.9ghz. and without extreme solutions, many people easily hit 3.7-4ghz on that bad boy. Man that style of cpu heatsink from back then looked so cool but we're incredibly inefficient at dissipating heat lmao