@@BM-wf9uf It was Lucius. Who sold out Saul and the remaining loyalists out to Eidolon simlly because he was jealous that Tarvitz was leading the loyalists, not him and proceeded to 1v1 with his former Captain. Got his ass whooped in return.
I've always felt a little bit of pity for Lucius, especially regarding his friendship with Sol Tarvitz. In reading the first few Horus Heresy novels, you can see there was honor and loyalty in Lucius, specifically regarding Tarvitz. They were brothers, each willing to die in battle to protect the other. It broke my heart when Lucius betrayed their brotherhood.
The fun thing is that it is an eternal torture to Lucius’ pride: he can never “improve” to best someone in a rematch. He can never achieve perfection. Khârn gets to kill, Typhus gets to spread plagues and be Nurgle’s chosen, but Lucius, no he gets no reward for loyalty - just eternal pain.
Lucius cares not for the opinions of sheep therefor how can he put himself in their shoes? His vanity would make it impossible .No, it wouldn't bother him that deeply what a few silly jealous legs think of his skill at arms. It would bother him if Sharrowkin turnt up round his house tho. Probly.
@@JamesLaserpimpWalsh didn't he get really upset when he found out that the factory worker was counted as the one who killed him? And don't the ones trapped in his armour mock him for his failure to beat them in combat?
Lucius the Eternal is by one of the worst monsters that spawn out of the disgraced Emperor Children Legion as he is one of the few creatures that can boast of true immortality, and he has proven to be a nightmare to all the forces of the Imperium and beyond as he continues to search for challenges and fights to test his ever growing abilities.
@@jamesmaybrick2001 no you don't, your beer is pish! 😂 Real alcohol comes from the halls of the Aett. It is Mjød, a true beverage created from the emperors finest, the mighty sons of Russ. SKÅL TO THE ALLFATHER! 🍺
@@thelasteinherjar6115 I find myself pursuaded by your impeccable argumentation. Although as a chaser can we agree that the distilled renderings of millions of slaves is just so tasty?
@@jamesmaybrick2001 😂 as a staunch loyalist I can't agree, for 2 simple reasons. 1. The slaves used in said beverage are likely captured imperial citizens of the imperium and although we do eat fellow imperials in corpse starch we do not drink them, to consider otherwise is HERESY! 2. Drinking a beverage offered from a heretic is, quite obviously.. HERESY! Also, this comment section is likely monitored by the inquisition and although I do usually like telling them where to go, seeing as the galaxy is split in the middle like a broken kit kat, I can't afford to fight them unless I can make glorious sagas, and sadly, inquisitors make for poor ones!
@@thelasteinherjar6115 Heretic? last time I was drinking in Hells Kitchen ( a lovely little place up some dark passage in the Prince of Pleasures special territory) Russ himelf was enjoying a Bloody Mary (made from a real person called Mary, obviously). He loves the celery!
I listen to a lot of 40k RUclipsrs Majorkill, Leutin etc but no one can make the hairs stand up and cause goose bumps to break out across my body quite like The Remembrancer elucidating the 40k universe!
I would love when Jaghatai khan returns he just cuts down Lucius on his way to fight Fulgrim without a second thought and Lucius last thought is "no one can be that fast!"
I'm imagining Jaghatai's reaction being the same as Shawn Michaels' when he SCM'ed Mike Knox at Survivor Series, he just looks back to his Chapter and asks "Who was that?"
That quote at the end is so creepy and sublime - hunger is universal for those destined to die. A terrifyingly well realized character, thanks for the video!
The one person I hate as much as abaddon. He's been killed by people who took no satisfaction from doing so but because the member of the machinicum or a factory worker took pride in the weapons they created he was some how able to work around the rules that were set forth.
He became Lucius the poorly written at that point. He was killed by a Necron and still came back. If that doesn't scream "author making it up as they go" I don't know what does.
@@somethinglikethat2176 What's extremely frustrating is that there was an easy way to go around that. Just say he regenerated from the freshly flayed flesh of a flayed one that had killed and skinned him (essentially regenerating from himself), immediately had an "OH SHIT" moment and ran his bitch ass out of there screaming in terror while the flayed one is momentarily perplexed. A. It provides a believable enough loophole for him to survive battle against Necrons. B.He's obviously terrified of the idea of being dragged off and infinitely skinned. C.It's freaking hilarious. Bonus points if he had to hide out in the Flayed One's home dimension for years playing cat and mouse (as the mouse) only to finally desperately hitch a ride on a flayed one when he notices a bunch of them warping out and runs screaming towards the nearest ship so he can hijack it to get the hell out of there. He from then on has extreme trauma regarding the Necrons and refuses to fight them, neatly wrapping up that plot thread while giving a more believable excuse to fans.
@@somethinglikethat2176 Yeah it's like suddenly they give bullshit level of warp power up that not even Emperor do it on his hundreds if not thousands of dead Custodes, it's just garbage writing on Lucius' powerlevel No wonder that even many Emperor's Children fans wants Lucius to be permanently dead, but then again if Guilliman starts understand more of the psyker secret magics that can permakill daemons including chaos gods' champions, he should've gone and finishes off Lucius permanently using Emperor's Sword or whatever powers that Lion have that some of his fans claimed that he could permakill daemons too They really should permakill poorly written latter villains in 40K settings, he's not even as fun as Trazyn nor Vect level of despicable nor Ahzek Ahriman level of sympathetic, nor Tyrannids' own omnomnomnom, nor Imperium's bureaucratic nightmare, he's just a grovelling pile of groxturd
Lucius always reminds me of a 5th Form boy hanging around the Upper 6th, trying to impress them. He's no Akarduana, and he never will be! Excellent work, Sir Remembrancer!
I hope Nykona Sharrowkyn return back and finish what he was unable to do, there is a chance that either he is trap somewhere in the warp with his warband or with Constantine Valdor, Raven Guard are rarely featured even though their tactics is the most realistic and closer to modern combat like their successor chapter the Raptor Marines. You can rarely hear a Raven Guard fought in melee and charge to the enemy while shouting "For The Emperor".
the best reason anyone could have to read the first three heresy books, is the sheer catharsis of Lucius getting decked in face by Saul Tarvitz. that was a moment 3 books in the making
you should do the last charge of the warhounds where the Liberians and a dreadnought of the world eaters tried to save angron's soul and almost took out Logar.
@@gardenthefermentingsound6218 He could as long as he doesn't hold any pride and excess of OCDs when he's killing him Also Lion with his tactics could delete those pesky characters akin to Lucius, Erebus, etc permanently if GW allows them to have battle-to-death Or imprison him into slow death within either Necron's anti-warp techs or inside Tyrannids' digestive systems with no way out, considering that Tyrannids are not just Chaos-repellent but also Warp-repellent while neither of them have souls nor able to succumb to Chaotic taint, there's still many ways to eradicate Chaos, both Chaos Undivided fans as obnoxious as 40K's buttermilk bob/timmy in terms of power-scaling
@Garden the Fermenting Sound Pride has EVERYTHING to do with it. Because that's how Lucius's resurrection WORKS. If the person that kills him feels anything that can be construed as Pride in the act, Lucius will possess and override them, thus resurrecting. It goes a bit deeper because killing him indirectly will mean the person that made the trap count as his killer, like the time he got killed by a mine and the random factory worker two sectors away ended up being possessed because he was proud of his mines helping kill the Emperor's foes. But the key is that feeling of pride, and Lucius knows it. There are characters, like Lilith Hesperex of the Dark Eldar/Ynnari that Lucius outright refuses to fight, because he believes they either wouldn't feel Pride or have some other way to get around his curse.
@@RandyrheBlackKnight Lucius will come back as long as Slaanesh wants him to. If someone killed Lucius and took no pride in it, there's nothing to keep him from reviving in that person. As long as Lucius is liked by the Youngest God, he returns.
Lucius was no one's first choice. He wasn't initially chosen by the traitors, because he was so haughty even he couldn't be counted to be loyal to his traitorous father. Eidolon only gave him a chance because the loyalists were giving him a much harder go at it than expected and they needed any help they could get. I imagine Lucius would've thrown the same tantrum and gone over to the loyalists if he had felt as slighted as he did by the loyalists had the traitors chosen him initially. They would've accepted him too, as they also accepted the Death Guard tank crews after they had a change of heart and fired on Mortarion. It was never about *winning* with Lucius - it was about stroking his fragile pride.
I love your work remberancer,.but the cuts on his face where brought about with his conversation with the artist who painted the portrait of fulgrim, she was a self harmer and convinced him to cut himself to remember
I'm one of the few who actually like Lucius The Eternal as a character, or more accurately his odd regeneration ability. I know it BS but at the same time it's kind of funny how you could be just some poor factory laborer making grenades all day and suddenly the guy next to you explodes in a shower of blood and Lucius is just standing there confused.
Lucius the Eternal"hay there..WHAT UP... EVERYBODYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"! Us"yesssssssssssss"? Lucius the Eternal"GUESS WHAT TIME ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"! Us"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"!? Lucius the Eternal"HAY EVERYBODYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY... GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS TONIGHT..... IT'S PARTY TIME....ALL RIGHT"!!!!!
You think Sharokin will go for a second round with this guy? He is still around due to being put in stasis and saving part of what Cawl uses to make primarius marines.
I strongly dislike The Reflection Crack'd story. For me, the idea that Fugrim was trapped inside his own flesh for eternity, unable to do anything to prevent what happened but forced to witness it was a far better ending for the character.
If you can find it, in the story 'Imperfect' you can see that the daemon is still around Fulgrim, whispering to him, even if it doesn't hold the reigns any more. But we should have at least seen the confrontation Fulgrim had with the daemon!
Eh, I dunno. If Ax’senaea...a normal mortal woman...could devour THREE whole Greater Daemons of Slaanesh with JUST sheer willpower then the idea that a Primarch couldn't do it kind of breaks suspension of belief for me.
Please do a Pre-Ternal Lucius, I feel that everyone only focuses on after Murder events. When they find the Blood Angels Corpses and Tarvitz saves Lucius twice, Lucius apologizes to Tarvitz, admits to his “imperfection” of going TOO hard in the paint. Tarvitz tells him it’s ok, Lucius grabs and holds Tarvitz gauntlet and tells him “No, it’s not ok, I need to know we’re still friends”… I feel that Lucius had so much depth and potential, he and Tarvitz represent polar opposites within the Emperors Children, Lucius is what happens when perfect ambition meets imperfect humanity. Tarvitz is Perfect embodiment duty and honor, but fell due to be being unwilling to accept Eidelon and Biles gift of Fulgrims new vision of perfection.
I don’t typically defend Lucius, but that jagoff was the one who low blowed Lucius. I find it unreasonable that those audience members wanted to kill him just because he made that guy pay for it
so if he is killed by a Tyranid, Necros (basic troop) he is done for? I'd just go for Orcs in his situation, those boyz will keep him coming back again and again and again
I'm wondering if it's a prophecy such as a great warrior needs to defeat him then end himself. He won't have any pride nor good feelings towards it cause he knows his life and the cursed cycle ends with him.
Yeah pretty much. The only difference is Lucius doesn't have sex I guess. They're both equally perverted. Lucius sort of wanted to be good, in a ego centric way, while sigvald was always a psycho. There was a warhammer monthly issue where they put WHFB characters in 40k, and 40k characters in FB, it was cool to see Malus in 40k. Just a similar idea I guess.
Lucius, the victim of bad writing. Since he's practically immortal he's killed way too many times for someone who pretends to be great swordsman. Writers don't give a sh*t because they know that killing him doesn't matter. He'll resurrect anyway so who cares?
Not many characters in 40k get me going, but I really hate this guy. He's clearly a villain in a setting without clear good and evil. He's a very memorable character.
Is the video released? I got a “this video contains disturbing content” warning before I clicked on it. I’m wondering if it got taken down. I know luetin went thru the same thing a few days back
He has a great gimmick that was poorly handled. The factory worker one was an eye roller imo, the Necron one was the straight-up bs. I think a lot of people dislike the character because he survives for no other reason than the hand of the author, rather than something that feels organic to the character, plot, or setting.
I love this character for many reasons ( like Fulgrim ). His ability to ressurect is cool and makes enemies scream when they turn into him ( even necrons aren't free from Lucius curse ). But what makes him so good villain is how much hate he generate when people talking about him 😂.
The Necron thing didn't make any sense though. Him regenerating from his own flayed skin off of a flayed one would be hilarious and make more sense...but a soulless necrodermis body? That's just poor writing.
Some may say Sigismund since he is remarked as one of the greatest and below a Primarch, others may say Corswain since when the Imperial Fist and Dark Angels had an honor duel it was implied Corswain beat the greatest of the Imperial Fist. Others may say Nykona Sharrowkyn for sneaking on both Eidolon and Lucius and defeating Lucius who was said have only Fulgrim as his peer. It's arguable between these warriors but no doubt they're among the greatest.
If fulgrim comes back in 10th, I might just play emporors children, but given how "uncouth" slaanesh's lore is due to today's climate, I'm not counting on it.
It amazes me just how little Big E was absent from his children and not even bother to discipline his primarchs when they all clearly gone insane and a few out of what 20 manages to maintain their humanity.wyf was he thinking.why would he not say man stop cutting its not healthy you are not a 14 year old goth chick your a primarch now start acting like one.its like who knew what legions would turn but did nothing to really interfere besides Magnus who ruined the webway and that was an accident.Condrad was the first to loode his mind and never even spoke with him.he was not a very good mentor/father
If Lucius were killed by an Ork, Tyranid, Necron, C’tan or Blank, would Slanessh be unable to resurrect him? The previously mentioned either lack souls, or have no or atypical connections to the warp.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure that somewhere in the lore Lucius was killed by a necron warrior. Despite the necron taking no pride in killing him, the necron still somehow was possessed by and became Lucius.
Shouldnt the souls of his victims , trappen in his armor, mocking him for all eternity due the fact that they win and he lose and he cant do a rematch wich mean he will nevere win in the way he care, making him more far from the perfection he wanted. this would made his character more interesting.
Lucius is a GW joke I gather- wonder if it was ever explained how he manages to come back everytime.. If dead please return to F.Bile. Reward offered..
If Lucius and a random fighter were on a ship flying towards the sun, and the random fighter killed him, Lucius would possess the random fighter and then the random fighter would go into the sun. No more Lucius.
I LOVE IT.... "LUSCIOUS" LUCIAS DIDN'T HAVE EVEN THE FOGGIEST IDEA OF JUST HOW ROYALLY FUCKED HE AND HIS MEN TRULY WERE!! ........ and the true literal Nails in their coffins was my battle brother natona sharrowkyn basically just swooping in and not even breaking a sweat not even fighting a quarter of his ability literally just too sordid this little balding b**** of a pretty boy sliced into ribbons and did it with the disdain of someone who was taking out a rabid dog and who then said he would feel more emotion and empathy towards the Rabid animal because the animal didn't know any better! He literally said to Lucius you are nothing and I am in more sorrow that I'm going to have to clean your blood off of my blades because they feel dirty to me now and having to touch your tainted flesh! Like he didn't just cut him physically he sliced and diced him verbally! He basically said I don't take any pride in this I'm not going to even tell anybody about this you disgust me I love you but I'm not going to feel any Pride about it I'm simply going to act like this never happened basically the same as someone who's getting rid of a fire ant colony has to be done but they don't take any joy in it
_"There's no way a space marine would turn traitor just because of a broken nose."_
*Lucius:* _"Hold my Laer Blade."_
Yeah I would rather not
Space Marine Voldemort
haha awesome
If not...then explain the worlds statues missing noses.
Saul Tarvitz was such a bro, he really tried to help Lucius be a better guy. It was pretty bad that Lucius turned against him.
Didn't Tarvitz whoop Lucius' butt during the last stand on Istvan 3? Or was it Eidolon he whooped?
Same with argal tol and erebus.
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It was Lucius. Who sold out Saul and the remaining loyalists out to Eidolon simlly because he was jealous that Tarvitz was leading the loyalists, not him and proceeded to 1v1 with his former Captain. Got his ass whooped in return.
I've always felt a little bit of pity for Lucius, especially regarding his friendship with Sol Tarvitz. In reading the first few Horus Heresy novels, you can see there was honor and loyalty in Lucius, specifically regarding Tarvitz. They were brothers, each willing to die in battle to protect the other. It broke my heart when Lucius betrayed their brotherhood.
Yeah, there were some moments when he remembered his duty. When he apologised to Saul for being such a prick. I like that character.
The fun thing is that it is an eternal torture to Lucius’ pride: he can never “improve” to best someone in a rematch. He can never achieve perfection. Khârn gets to kill, Typhus gets to spread plagues and be Nurgle’s chosen, but Lucius, no he gets no reward for loyalty - just eternal pain.
Lucius cares not for the opinions of sheep therefor how can he put himself in their shoes? His vanity would make it impossible .No, it wouldn't bother him that deeply what a few silly jealous legs think of his skill at arms. It would bother him if Sharrowkin turnt up round his house tho. Probly.
Yeah I would imagine he doesn’t care if he didn’t get a rematch.
@@JamesLaserpimpWalsh didn't he get really upset when he found out that the factory worker was counted as the one who killed him? And don't the ones trapped in his armour mock him for his failure to beat them in combat?
People say he claims to be the greatest swordsman in the universe but all those faces on his armor says different
@@KeyfurDragon he does, that’s sort of his ironic state - his sole purpose was to train to be the best and now he cannot actually achieve that.
Garvey breaking Lucius's nose was one the funniest, most based moments of the HH novels.
“HE CHEATED”
#HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN
That was the first mark ever made on his face!
That abbreviation couldn't be misunderstood or taken out of context at all!
Lucius the Eternal is by one of the worst monsters that spawn out of the disgraced Emperor Children Legion as he is one of the few creatures that can boast of true immortality, and he has proven to be a nightmare to all the forces of the Imperium and beyond as he continues to search for challenges and fights to test his ever growing abilities.
That sounds like something a lacky of the false emperor would say. Come over to the true gods side. We have great beer.
@@jamesmaybrick2001 no you don't, your beer is pish! 😂 Real alcohol comes from the halls of the Aett. It is Mjød, a true beverage created from the emperors finest, the mighty sons of Russ. SKÅL TO THE ALLFATHER! 🍺
@@thelasteinherjar6115 I find myself pursuaded by your impeccable argumentation. Although as a chaser can we agree that the distilled renderings of millions of slaves is just so tasty?
@@jamesmaybrick2001 😂 as a staunch loyalist I can't agree, for 2 simple reasons.
1. The slaves used in said beverage are likely captured imperial citizens of the imperium and although we do eat fellow imperials in corpse starch we do not drink them, to consider otherwise is HERESY!
2. Drinking a beverage offered from a heretic is, quite obviously.. HERESY!
Also, this comment section is likely monitored by the inquisition and although I do usually like telling them where to go, seeing as the galaxy is split in the middle like a broken kit kat, I can't afford to fight them unless I can make glorious sagas, and sadly, inquisitors make for poor ones!
@@thelasteinherjar6115 Heretic? last time I was drinking in Hells Kitchen ( a lovely little place up some dark passage in the Prince of Pleasures special territory) Russ himelf was enjoying a Bloody Mary (made from a real person called Mary, obviously). He loves the celery!
I listen to a lot of 40k RUclipsrs Majorkill, Leutin etc but no one can make the hairs stand up and cause goose bumps to break out across my body quite like The Remembrancer elucidating the 40k universe!
Bald man strikes again.
It’s the reason I refuse to shave what almost theoretical hair I have remaining, it marks me out as loyal and distinguished. 😂
@@DukeDanseMacambre oh well, I'm starting my journey on balding as im still in my twenties but i will have to make your quote mine
Bald kings rise up
@@DukeDanseMacambre is your hair like Fabulous Bill now?
I would love when Jaghatai khan returns he just cuts down Lucius on his way to fight Fulgrim without a second thought and Lucius last thought is "no one can be that fast!"
Be funnier if the blade was forged by a blank, or big Ex making Lucius dead for good.
I'm imagining Jaghatai's reaction being the same as Shawn Michaels' when he SCM'ed Mike Knox at Survivor Series, he just looks back to his Chapter and asks "Who was that?"
Great story. Well told. This ranks among your best ones. Well done man.
That quote at the end is so creepy and sublime - hunger is universal for those destined to die. A terrifyingly well realized character, thanks for the video!
The one person I hate as much as abaddon. He's been killed by people who took no satisfaction from doing so but because the member of the machinicum or a factory worker took pride in the weapons they created he was some how able to work around the rules that were set forth.
He became Lucius the poorly written at that point.
He was killed by a Necron and still came back. If that doesn't scream "author making it up as they go" I don't know what does.
@@somethinglikethat2176 What's extremely frustrating is that there was an easy way to go around that.
Just say he regenerated from the freshly flayed flesh of a flayed one that had killed and skinned him (essentially regenerating from himself), immediately had an "OH SHIT" moment and ran his bitch ass out of there screaming in terror while the flayed one is momentarily perplexed.
A. It provides a believable enough loophole for him to survive battle against Necrons. B.He's obviously terrified of the idea of being dragged off and infinitely skinned. C.It's freaking hilarious.
Bonus points if he had to hide out in the Flayed One's home dimension for years playing cat and mouse (as the mouse) only to finally desperately hitch a ride on a flayed one when he notices a bunch of them warping out and runs screaming towards the nearest ship so he can hijack it to get the hell out of there. He from then on has extreme trauma regarding the Necrons and refuses to fight them, neatly wrapping up that plot thread while giving a more believable excuse to fans.
@@somethinglikethat2176 Yeah it's like suddenly they give bullshit level of warp power up that not even Emperor do it on his hundreds if not thousands of dead Custodes, it's just garbage writing on Lucius' powerlevel
No wonder that even many Emperor's Children fans wants Lucius to be permanently dead, but then again if Guilliman starts understand more of the psyker secret magics that can permakill daemons including chaos gods' champions, he should've gone and finishes off Lucius permanently using Emperor's Sword or whatever powers that Lion have that some of his fans claimed that he could permakill daemons too
They really should permakill poorly written latter villains in 40K settings, he's not even as fun as Trazyn nor Vect level of despicable nor Ahzek Ahriman level of sympathetic, nor Tyrannids' own omnomnomnom, nor Imperium's bureaucratic nightmare, he's just a grovelling pile of groxturd
I like pre-heresy Abaddon
@@ohamatchhamsI feel like this is a result of the author trying to make him as scary as a slasher villain
Lucius always reminds me of a 5th Form boy hanging around the Upper 6th, trying to impress them.
He's no Akarduana, and he never will be!
Excellent work, Sir Remembrancer!
When Lucius beheaded the Chaplain during the Horus Hersey, that was grim!
I seriously love these videos! I just recently got into WH40K, but I am 50 books deep. This is well done. Thank you for your hard work.
I hope Nykona Sharrowkyn return back and finish what he was unable to do, there is a chance that either he is trap somewhere in the warp with his warband or with Constantine Valdor, Raven Guard are rarely featured even though their tactics is the most realistic and closer to modern combat like their successor chapter the Raptor Marines. You can rarely hear a Raven Guard fought in melee and charge to the enemy while shouting "For The Emperor".
Tarvitz, Loken and Garro, now thats a trio of heroes. Brilliant narration and voice work.
Three names, one personality.
Always liked his character especially the current form he is.
the best reason anyone could have to read the first three heresy books, is the sheer catharsis of Lucius getting decked in face by Saul Tarvitz. that was a moment 3 books in the making
Lucius is by and yonder my favorite character to hate. His plot armor is a just a little much sometimes though.
Baldness is the sign of chaos mutation - Rowboat Girlyman Ultramarine Primarch
Lucius Will always and forever remember his executioner nykona sharrowkyn
Really enjoyed that tell keep up the great work
I love Lucius way too much
He did care about Fulgrim tbf
His book is sooo good.
Lucius getting punched by Tarvitz imho is top kino moment.
Excellent video, Sir.
Son of corvus: I've slain you once-over more, how many times do i have to teach you this lesson old man
Thx remembrancer for your excellent work
you should do the last charge of the warhounds where the Liberians and a dreadnought of the world eaters tried to save angron's soul and almost took out Logar.
Awesome video, like always!
Dante would be a great opponent and could slay lucious without being cursed
No he couldn't
@@gardenthefermentingsound6218 He could as long as he doesn't hold any pride and excess of OCDs when he's killing him
Also Lion with his tactics could delete those pesky characters akin to Lucius, Erebus, etc permanently if GW allows them to have battle-to-death
Or imprison him into slow death within either Necron's anti-warp techs or inside Tyrannids' digestive systems with no way out, considering that Tyrannids are not just Chaos-repellent but also Warp-repellent while neither of them have souls nor able to succumb to Chaotic taint, there's still many ways to eradicate Chaos, both Chaos Undivided fans as obnoxious as 40K's buttermilk bob/timmy in terms of power-scaling
@@ohamatchhams Pride has nothing to do with it. Slaanesh likes Lucius so it revives him
@Garden the Fermenting Sound Pride has EVERYTHING to do with it. Because that's how Lucius's resurrection WORKS. If the person that kills him feels anything that can be construed as Pride in the act, Lucius will possess and override them, thus resurrecting.
It goes a bit deeper because killing him indirectly will mean the person that made the trap count as his killer, like the time he got killed by a mine and the random factory worker two sectors away ended up being possessed because he was proud of his mines helping kill the Emperor's foes.
But the key is that feeling of pride, and Lucius knows it. There are characters, like Lilith Hesperex of the Dark Eldar/Ynnari that Lucius outright refuses to fight, because he believes they either wouldn't feel Pride or have some other way to get around his curse.
@@RandyrheBlackKnight Lucius will come back as long as Slaanesh wants him to. If someone killed Lucius and took no pride in it, there's nothing to keep him from reviving in that person. As long as Lucius is liked by the Youngest God, he returns.
Lucius was no one's first choice. He wasn't initially chosen by the traitors, because he was so haughty even he couldn't be counted to be loyal to his traitorous father. Eidolon only gave him a chance because the loyalists were giving him a much harder go at it than expected and they needed any help they could get.
I imagine Lucius would've thrown the same tantrum and gone over to the loyalists if he had felt as slighted as he did by the loyalists had the traitors chosen him initially. They would've accepted him too, as they also accepted the Death Guard tank crews after they had a change of heart and fired on Mortarion. It was never about *winning* with Lucius - it was about stroking his fragile pride.
A good villain for a universe like Warhammer 40k
"The Grandeur of Holy Terra," I admit I chuckled at bit at that.
Lucius was always too prideful about himself.
I feel bad for Tarvitz. Lucius' betrayal was unbelievable for him.
16:55 quick question what happens if they kill him and then immediately commit suicide
I love your work remberancer,.but the cuts on his face where brought about with his conversation with the artist who painted the portrait of fulgrim, she was a self harmer and convinced him to cut himself to remember
I apologize my little grabbed the phone and knocked my place, I have just seen uncover this
We need a follow-up detailing Lucius unparalleled fight against the explosive mine
The greatest bladesman the Best Swordsman
Lucius is probably the best candidate to kill the emperor if the emperor is reborn.
I'm one of the few who actually like Lucius The Eternal as a character, or more accurately his odd regeneration ability. I know it BS but at the same time it's kind of funny how you could be just some poor factory laborer making grenades all day and suddenly the guy next to you explodes in a shower of blood and Lucius is just standing there confused.
I love your tails. Its always a delight to listen to you
5:50 Why Lucius why? 😭 14:30 Jesus Christ... look at what Lucius has become. 16:20 Lucius the Eternal's ability + his current horrifying form.
14:30 is Fabius Bile though
Ever since I first read about Lucius, I've had one question: What would actually happen if he met one of the legendary Necron Lords?
Lucius the Eternal"hay there..WHAT UP... EVERYBODYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"! Us"yesssssssssssss"? Lucius the Eternal"GUESS WHAT TIME ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"! Us"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"!? Lucius the Eternal"HAY EVERYBODYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY... GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS TONIGHT..... IT'S PARTY TIME....ALL RIGHT"!!!!!
You think Sharokin will go for a second round with this guy? He is still around due to being put in stasis and saving part of what Cawl uses to make primarius marines.
No matter how many times he is killed he is always resurected by the ones he was killed
So long as they were proud of the kill in some way so the story is told.
@@KolossusB true
I strongly dislike The Reflection Crack'd story. For me, the idea that Fugrim was trapped inside his own flesh for eternity, unable to do anything to prevent what happened but forced to witness it was a far better ending for the character.
If you can find it, in the story 'Imperfect' you can see that the daemon is still around Fulgrim, whispering to him, even if it doesn't hold the reigns any more. But we should have at least seen the confrontation Fulgrim had with the daemon!
Eh, I dunno. If Ax’senaea...a normal mortal woman...could devour THREE whole Greater Daemons of Slaanesh with JUST sheer willpower then the idea that a Primarch couldn't do it kind of breaks suspension of belief for me.
SaulTarvitz was killed by little Horis. Its not a mystery what happened to him.
Clone Fulgrim is the one that needs to give Lucius his true final death.
*Lucuius gets shots in the face*
Lucius: *confused emoji*
Please do a Pre-Ternal Lucius, I feel that everyone only focuses on after Murder events.
When they find the Blood Angels Corpses and Tarvitz saves Lucius twice, Lucius apologizes to Tarvitz, admits to his “imperfection” of going TOO hard in the paint. Tarvitz tells him it’s ok, Lucius grabs and holds Tarvitz gauntlet and tells him “No, it’s not ok, I need to know we’re still friends”…
I feel that Lucius had so much depth and potential, he and Tarvitz represent polar opposites within the Emperors Children, Lucius is what happens when perfect ambition meets imperfect humanity. Tarvitz is Perfect embodiment duty and honor, but fell due to be being unwilling to accept Eidelon and Biles gift of Fulgrims new vision of perfection.
I don’t typically defend Lucius, but that jagoff was the one who low blowed Lucius. I find it unreasonable that those audience members wanted to kill him just because he made that guy pay for it
Can you do a video of Tesserius Akurduana
Before I knew anything about 40k, I knew I'd love to hate this guy.
"Oh hi Abby!"
Be funny if at some point he gets killed by a blank, using a sword forged by a blank.
Can someone tell me song in the background that sounds like whispers please. I like it, for it gives me pleasure and excess.
Beautiful video mate love anything EC , only thing you missed imo was when he took off Chaplain Charmosians head ontop of a land raider !
I still think that mine loophole would make sense as a way to kill him, lol.
I hope Nykona finishes him off for good.
So....Lucias vs Kharne should be a thing.
His episode in hammer and bolter was pretty badass check it out if you haven't
so if he is killed by a Tyranid, Necros (basic troop) he is done for? I'd just go for Orcs in his situation, those boyz will keep him coming back again and again and again
I'm wondering if it's a prophecy such as a great warrior needs to defeat him then end himself. He won't have any pride nor good feelings towards it cause he knows his life and the cursed cycle ends with him.
It's just 40k Sigvald the Magnificant.
Yeah pretty much. The only difference is Lucius doesn't have sex I guess. They're both equally perverted. Lucius sort of wanted to be good, in a ego centric way, while sigvald was always a psycho.
There was a warhammer monthly issue where they put WHFB characters in 40k, and 40k characters in FB, it was cool to see Malus in 40k. Just a similar idea I guess.
Lucius, the victim of bad writing. Since he's practically immortal he's killed way too many times for someone who pretends to be great swordsman. Writers don't give a sh*t because they know that killing him doesn't matter. He'll resurrect anyway so who cares?
Cos been a great swordsman really does help against mines, bullets etc , doesn't it?
He's died 13 times in 10 thousand years. That's pretty good
@@gardenthefermentingsound6218 Especally since he constantly seeks out the best fighters to go up against.
Not many characters in 40k get me going, but I really hate this guy. He's clearly a villain in a setting without clear good and evil. He's a very memorable character.
Is the video released? I got a “this video contains disturbing content” warning before I clicked on it. I’m wondering if it got taken down. I know luetin went thru the same thing a few days back
Video shall be released Saturday 6th
Slanesh just can't catch a break.
Any who slay and have…satisfaction when slaying the mortal…will become him…
I get upset when people don’t absolutely LOVE this man. Great character! But I would say that…
He has a great gimmick that was poorly handled. The factory worker one was an eye roller imo, the Necron one was the straight-up bs.
I think a lot of people dislike the character because he survives for no other reason than the hand of the author, rather than something that feels organic to the character, plot, or setting.
Given his martial path, wonder why it wasn't krone over salneesh besides plot lore
The pride would align him more with Slaanesh who is the opposite of Korne.
Lucius is a rat. Khorne doesn't like rats.
I love this character for many reasons ( like Fulgrim ). His ability to ressurect is cool and makes enemies scream when they turn into him ( even necrons aren't free from Lucius curse ). But what makes him so good villain is how much hate he generate when people talking about him 😂.
The Necron thing didn't make any sense though. Him regenerating from his own flayed skin off of a flayed one would be hilarious and make more sense...but a soulless necrodermis body?
That's just poor writing.
I NEED ambrosia!
Plot armor is strong in this one..
*What the Unholy Lordy loo...?*
Lucius the Eternal, Slanneshmass Voxcast Special
I know this question may cause war..but as an enthusiast, I would like to know:
Who is the greatest duelist/swordsman in Warhammer 40K?
Some may say Sigismund since he is remarked as one of the greatest and below a Primarch, others may say Corswain since when the Imperial Fist and Dark Angels had an honor duel it was implied Corswain beat the greatest of the Imperial Fist.
Others may say Nykona Sharrowkyn for sneaking on both Eidolon and Lucius and defeating Lucius who was said have only Fulgrim as his peer.
It's arguable between these warriors but no doubt they're among the greatest.
Do all of you guys on Lorecrimes plan to release the same time and day of the podcast?
We all have our own schedules but my transmission coincide before LoreCrimes episodes
I feel Typhus should be next
If fulgrim comes back in 10th, I might just play emporors children, but given how "uncouth" slaanesh's lore is due to today's climate, I'm not counting on it.
Sadistic bald man literally to cursed too die😂
And he got killed by a nobody with a landmine
Lucius, you could have been somebody, a hero,a legend, a contender.. but instead, now, you’re just a bum.
For a legendary swordsman. Lucius sure loses a lot.
What would happen if kharne took his head
My favorite bois. A natural born warrior
well well well... what do we have here
It amazes me just how little Big E was absent from his children and not even bother to discipline his primarchs when they all clearly gone insane and a few out of what 20 manages to maintain their humanity.wyf was he thinking.why would he not say man stop cutting its not healthy you are not a 14 year old goth chick your a primarch now start acting like one.its like who knew what legions would turn but did nothing to really interfere besides Magnus who ruined the webway and that was an accident.Condrad was the first to loode his mind and never even spoke with him.he was not a very good mentor/father
I wish siggy was still alive to kill him without pride in the action perma killing. Siggy was all duty to the emperor and rogal no pride whatsoever.
Oh nice! ❤❤❤
If Lucius were killed by an Ork, Tyranid, Necron, C’tan or Blank, would Slanessh be unable to resurrect him? The previously mentioned either lack souls, or have no or atypical connections to the warp.
It is any strong emotion that brings him back, which is kinda stupid but makes sense
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure that somewhere in the lore Lucius was killed by a necron warrior. Despite the necron taking no pride in killing him, the necron still somehow was possessed by and became Lucius.
@@johnnys8393 that seems ridiculous, especially considering that Necrons aren’t organic and the majority of them have no emotions.
@@worldeater2414 his resurrection perk is a cheap gimmick, isn’t it ?
Who cares?
LUCIUS
because
Fk U is why!
LUCIUS
Then one day Lucius ran into one smelly Valhallan with a melta ...m#### f###### Jurgan
I wish he dueled with Sigmund.
For a guy who wants to be the best duelist..
He sure loses a lot!!
Hahah!!
Shouldnt the souls of his victims , trappen in his armor, mocking him for all eternity due the fact that they win and he lose and he cant do a rematch wich mean he will nevere win in the way he care, making him more far from the perfection he wanted. this would made his character more interesting.
Lucius is a GW joke I gather- wonder if it was ever explained how he manages to come back everytime.. If dead please return to F.Bile. Reward offered..
If Lucius and a random fighter were on a ship flying towards the sun, and the random fighter killed him, Lucius would possess the random fighter and then the random fighter would go into the sun. No more Lucius.
I LOVE IT....
"LUSCIOUS" LUCIAS DIDN'T HAVE EVEN THE FOGGIEST IDEA OF JUST HOW ROYALLY FUCKED HE AND HIS MEN TRULY WERE!! ........ and the true literal Nails in their coffins was my battle brother natona sharrowkyn basically just swooping in and not even breaking a sweat not even fighting a quarter of his ability literally just too sordid this little balding b**** of a pretty boy sliced into ribbons and did it with the disdain of someone who was taking out a rabid dog and who then said he would feel more emotion and empathy towards the Rabid animal because the animal didn't know any better! He literally said to Lucius you are nothing and I am in more sorrow that I'm going to have to clean your blood off of my blades because they feel dirty to me now and having to touch your tainted flesh! Like he didn't just cut him physically he sliced and diced him verbally! He basically said I don't take any pride in this I'm not going to even tell anybody about this you disgust me I love you but I'm not going to feel any Pride about it I'm simply going to act like this never happened basically the same as someone who's getting rid of a fire ant colony has to be done but they don't take any joy in it
Seems like a character most would love to hate
Just trap him?
How?
Stasis grenade
It is a shame that ai so skilled warrior, with incredibile fighting prowes, mast fall do to his blind pride