Why did the Entente betray Italy after WW1? (Animated History Documentary)

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  • Italy was promised a lot to enter the First World War on the side of the Entente. But when it came time to pay up, Britain, France and the United States all had other ideas and the territories promised to Italy mostly went to Yugoslavia. So why did this happen? Why did the Entente go back on their word to Italy? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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Комментарии • 1,4 тыс.

  • @eggy6815
    @eggy6815 Месяц назад +4454

    Imagine losing promised land from your enemy because they were so thoroughly defeated that they lost the land they were supposed to give to you.

    • @HipFire1
      @HipFire1 Месяц назад +382

      not a rare experience on EU4

    • @anonymous-hz2un
      @anonymous-hz2un Месяц назад +126

      In the end it was better this way. Dalmatia is strictly populated by croats. Now losing Istria after WW2, however...

    • @GenovaYork951
      @GenovaYork951 Месяц назад +31

      ​@@anonymous-hz2un Istria is populated by Serbo-Croatians and Romanians. Nothing to do with Italy.

    • @chozer1
      @chozer1 Месяц назад +217

      @@GenovaYork951not totally true. Back then there was alot of Italians

    • @GenovaYork951
      @GenovaYork951 Месяц назад

      @@chozer1 Proof?

  • @Longshanks1690
    @Longshanks1690 Месяц назад +3591

    1:15 “But that was a problem for the next generation” with an old man saying “All the best” to a literal baby can be applied to so many scenarios and events on this channel. 😂

    • @Lennox-vr1sj
      @Lennox-vr1sj Месяц назад +76

      Totally fucking missed the baby first time round

    • @barsukascool
      @barsukascool Месяц назад +14

      Pfwhaaaa-😂

    • @rodrigodepierola
      @rodrigodepierola Месяц назад +29

      I died when I saw the baby in swaddling clothes.

    • @Bruhdaughhh
      @Bruhdaughhh Месяц назад +45

      Literally all of world history be like:

    • @xELITExKILLAx
      @xELITExKILLAx Месяц назад +20

      The baby was Kelly Money Maker

  • @danielrichwine2268
    @danielrichwine2268 Месяц назад +1656

    The "Soon" sign is such a great long running gag.

    • @balabanasireti
      @balabanasireti Месяц назад +1

      Meh

    • @Longshanks1690
      @Longshanks1690 Месяц назад +93

      @@danielrichwine2268 Running through the fields of flowers smiling is a personal favourite of mine.

    • @SteveInLava
      @SteveInLava Месяц назад +6

      ​@@Longshanks1690 🌸We won!🌸

    • @fatdaddyeddiejr
      @fatdaddyeddiejr Месяц назад

      Also characters with crossed eyes.

    • @BenZedrene
      @BenZedrene Месяц назад +11

      I like the "You suck" sign best

  • @toastyanon8902
    @toastyanon8902 Месяц назад +2239

    The Entente: “it’s not you, Italy. We’re reneging on just about every other promise too!”

    • @magnusbjarni
      @magnusbjarni Месяц назад +227

      "be happy with what you get, at least you're better off than the Middle East... Which we will solve at some point. Maybe. Probably not. Actually, scratch that. They can solve their own problems. That we may have created."

    • @jwil4286
      @jwil4286 Месяц назад +72

      And people say the Entente were the good guys in that war, especially when they (specifically Serbia) started it!

    • @scapeagoat2520
      @scapeagoat2520 Месяц назад +163

      @@jwil4286 “it appears you accepted 9 out of 10 of my absurd demands, I have no choice but to destroy Europe now”

    • @scorpixel1866
      @scorpixel1866 Месяц назад +101

      @@jwil4286 Because Serbia was obviously responsible for some dude with a pistol and should have just gotten annexed by Austria, and it's not like everyone in Europe has been itching for a fight for a decade already.

    • @Diedwhilemakingwaffles
      @Diedwhilemakingwaffles Месяц назад +39

      @@scorpixel1866 they did supply the Black Hand.

  • @JA432123
    @JA432123 Месяц назад +628

    Stop reading my mind history matters I just watched your “why did Italy join the Entaunte” video yesterday and was like “why didn’t Italy get the land it was promised”

  • @markmarano913
    @markmarano913 Месяц назад +298

    The newspaper gags on this channel never cease to entertain!
    Actually, come to think of it, NONE of the gags on this channel ever cease to entertain... Well, in that spirit, I'm going to go romping through a field of daisys while communicating with large hand-held signs.

    • @howiehall4622
      @howiehall4622 Месяц назад +9

      I fancy the "Nerds" sign.

    • @markmarano913
      @markmarano913 Месяц назад +5

      @@howiehall4622 My personal favorite is "Your mother"

  • @matthew416811
    @matthew416811 Месяц назад +1108

    3:04
    THE FEZ-WEARING ITALIAN MAN

  • @Ghost_Mast07
    @Ghost_Mast07 Месяц назад +715

    I love that Mussolini has a italy belt

    • @garethaethwy
      @garethaethwy Месяц назад +37

      It's little details like that which keep me coming back and rewatching videos multiple times, just to spot the throw-away jokes!

    • @albevanhanoy
      @albevanhanoy Месяц назад +48

      I think you mean the FEZ WEARING ITALIAN MAN

    • @anonvideo738
      @anonvideo738 Месяц назад +3

      Should've made it show Italy with the land promised

    • @GuyIncognito-pm4cp
      @GuyIncognito-pm4cp Месяц назад

      I have a legit Italy belt

    • @thepatriarchy819
      @thepatriarchy819 Месяц назад +2

      Ritorneremo

  • @liat5443
    @liat5443 Месяц назад +336

    Albania is such a lucky country. At nearly every point something happens in the balkans they nearly get annexed but they manage to survive

    • @braylen5830
      @braylen5830 Месяц назад +31

      Albanian Glory 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

    • @markobucevic8991
      @markobucevic8991 Месяц назад +44

      It simply was not worth the hassle, like today. A reason why they are economically at the bottom

    • @pewialmostdie3631
      @pewialmostdie3631 Месяц назад +15

      we did get annex in ww1 by italy but they drove out because they were broke and americas self determenation for minor countries.

    • @VojislavMoranic
      @VojislavMoranic Месяц назад

      @@pewialmostdie3631 And before that by Serbia.
      But we also left because firstly its a mountain shithole.
      Secondly Austro-Hungary was going absolutely shit insane at the thought of Serbia getting access to the Adriatic and literally made Albania not because the Germans give a ounce of shit for you savages.
      But just out of spite because Serbia said "Fuck you kaiser, the Tsar is my best friend now."
      And AH took that statement "Well"

    • @fotisexarchos5418
      @fotisexarchos5418 Месяц назад +5

      We liberated Southern Albania mostly known as Northern Epirus (where mostly Greeks still live), three times in the course of 30 years between 1914 and 1944 but the Allies always wanted to save them for no real reason.

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад +129

    There were so many conflicting "promises" that many of them were doomed to not be filled

    • @NewtypeCommander
      @NewtypeCommander Месяц назад +11

      It really does seem like the Entente powers overpromised what they could actually give away to their allies before the dust could actually settle, and I think this is one of great failures to learn from out of WW1: don't make territorial concessions until *after* the dust from a conflict has settled.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад

      @NewtypeCommander Not really. Often everyone meant to deliver but there were conflicting promises from allied states. I.E. Britain promised self-determination, Russia promised to annex parts of Turkey

  • @rorywhyte6722
    @rorywhyte6722 Месяц назад +632

    Jesus, watching European territories change hands over the course of the 20th century is a disco lightshow. I love it every time

    • @JeroldBoateng
      @JeroldBoateng Месяц назад +3

      Real

    • @makutas-v261
      @makutas-v261 Месяц назад +29

      It wasn't fun for them.

    • @AquaTomMovies
      @AquaTomMovies Месяц назад +11

      It's silly but not worthy of blasphemy

    • @zeljkomikulicic4378
      @zeljkomikulicic4378 Месяц назад +22

      We didn't enjoy in this trust me. My father, still alive live in his fifth state. On same address. He survive communism, fascism, monarchy and democracy. Basically every political system. He said, it wasn't fun. Also says that this EU democracy is worst system. Probably because he is old. For me this is second state after I survive one war. But I hope not last.

    • @attemptedunkindness3632
      @attemptedunkindness3632 Месяц назад +11

      @@makutas-v261 Kinda a coin toss when talking about the Baltics, Yugoslavia Major would never of worked out because the Balkans are full of people who assume they are the main character of their story. Clans and bloodfeuds would of torn those lands apart sooner than even with our own timeline. You may have wound up with a large Yugoslav if the dust ever managed to settle, sure, but between the Serbs and Turks and (insert extras here) they would still find themselves surrounded by hostile terroristic rump states.
      TLDR: Woulda happened anyway

  • @ryanmann1416
    @ryanmann1416 Месяц назад +188

    I guess no one knew the looming rise of the “Fez Wearing Italian Man”

  • @connorb.4790
    @connorb.4790 Месяц назад +93

    “Go cry to the Tsar” I’m dying 😂

  • @amk4956
    @amk4956 Месяц назад +54

    0:38 I don’t know why but my favorite part of these clips is always the newspaper headlines… They’re just so charming and if you aren’t paying attention, you miss a lot of humor. Bravo

  • @michaelhoffmann2891
    @michaelhoffmann2891 Месяц назад +49

    "After finding that a war in which *everybody* was the Bad Guy doesn't make for good movies, we needed to make sure that version 2.0 had some clear Big Evil(tm) for viewers to boo at" - 1914 to 1945 in a nutshell.

    • @exercisethemind
      @exercisethemind Месяц назад +16

      Hold your tongue! WW1 inspired some of the very BEST war films ever made!
      - All Quiet on the Western Front (1930 version)
      - Paths of Glory
      - Gallipoli
      - Lawrence of Arabia
      - The Grand Illusion
      - Reds
      - Dr. Zhivago
      These are cinematic masterpieces!

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu Месяц назад +1

      Most of my friends can quickly find out why WW2 games are more popular than WW1 games after I give 5 minutes of explanation. Yes I skipped a lot. And yet, it's already enough for everyone to know why everyone in the industry knows these games won't sell.

    • @michaelhoffmann2891
      @michaelhoffmann2891 Месяц назад +2

      @@exercisethemind You're absolutely right, of course. But that would have ruined my quip. 😆

  • @MustacheCashStash125
    @MustacheCashStash125 Месяц назад +1526

    Because James Bissonnette took away the territories before Italy and the Entente could take them

    • @toonistiny
      @toonistiny Месяц назад +28

      HOW DARE HE 😂

    • @seloimperija
      @seloimperija Месяц назад +22

      He bought them 😂

    • @MustacheCashStash125
      @MustacheCashStash125 Месяц назад +9

      @@toonistiny And they were too scared to take them from him because his massive army would destroy them

    • @sikey8154
      @sikey8154 Месяц назад +16

      Bissonnette irredenta

    • @tashantimothy6180
      @tashantimothy6180 Месяц назад +42

      Somebody get Kelly Moneymaker on the line!

  • @fiorinopizio4554
    @fiorinopizio4554 Месяц назад +476

    Italy: but you promised
    Entente: i miss the part where thats my problem

    • @venetostato
      @venetostato Месяц назад +63

      Turns out, it became their problem big time.

    • @superyamky
      @superyamky Месяц назад +6

      Bully maguire reference 😂

    • @petersmulders8058
      @petersmulders8058 Месяц назад +19

      Bad move by the Entente it just helped Italy join the axis in ww2.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 Месяц назад +6

      @@petersmulders8058Italy is also at fault. They could have gotten out with some land they were promised if their delegation didn’t rage quit during the Versailles negotiations.

    • @radudaniel7136
      @radudaniel7136 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@petersmulders8058Honestly it's hard to justify that being hurtful for the Entente in the long run. What did Italy do towards the war effort of the Axis? It opened another front for Germany to worry about, it got itself naval invaded, it went through a civil war, it increased the morale of allied soldiers after their complete fuck-up in Africa (not only in front of the british but also Ethiopia), it gave almost free (casualty-wise) army experience to the enemy in their african campaign, they betrayed the Axis, and they mostly served as an annoyance or distraction to the germans. I'm not sure if they did, but if they gave Germany equipment, it was definetly not nearly enough comparred to the hassle they created as the Axis still suffered from major equipment deficits well into the war. Oh yeah: because of them there is the possibility of the Allies being better equipped than without them in the war, as their deaths in Africa also resulted in free equipment for the Allies. I personally see Italy as more of a trojan horse to the Axis.

  • @anto8375
    @anto8375 Месяц назад +17

    Finally someone explains what happened during the ww1 from an Italian point of view.
    Italy spent money, corpes and had barely nothing of what was promised.
    That brought to a general turmoil, look at the "Vittotia Mutilata" of D'Annunzio. This sentiment helped the birth of the fascism, the alliance with the Third Reich and so on.
    Germany was humiliated because it lost the war, Italy was humiliated despite winning the war.

    • @Heldarion
      @Heldarion 21 день назад

      Italy's MO since before the unification has been to suck at war and rely on their powerful allies to get what they want anyway because they participated (see: Crimean war 1856, Magenta&Solferino 1859, Lissa&Custoza 1866, WW1 1918).
      It's hilarious to see whining how it's not fair they got so little when they objectively sucked at fighting for it. Not to mention the "that's how we got fascism" line. JFC

    • @Dr_Eggman_2
      @Dr_Eggman_2 12 дней назад +1

      Exactly, however is " Vittoria mutilata".

    • @anto8375
      @anto8375 12 дней назад

      @@Dr_Eggman_2 Thanks Dr Eggman for the correction, you are a nice guy. ;D

  • @sciencer9830
    @sciencer9830 Месяц назад +85

    Good that the video didn’t require any mentions of the Fez-wearing Italian man

    • @edwardblair4096
      @edwardblair4096 Месяц назад +13

      Just the cameo appearance right at the end.

  • @kidfox3971
    @kidfox3971 Месяц назад +162

    UK & France: You can partition Albania with Serbia.
    USA: No he can't.
    UK & France: No he can't.

    • @Hundredyacrewoods
      @Hundredyacrewoods Месяц назад +35

      Correction
      UK & France: You can partition Albania with Serbia.
      USA: No he can't.
      France: No he can't.
      UK: I don't care.

    • @kidfox3971
      @kidfox3971 Месяц назад

      @@Hundredyacrewoods Oh yes of course, when the British lose a geopolitical struggle it's always because they "don't care". Just like how they fought a rebellion in America for 8 years and surrendered after all that because apparently they just "didn't care".

    • @Godzillahistoryfan34
      @Godzillahistoryfan34 Месяц назад +1

      @@Hundredyacrewoodsand then the US just leaves

    • @felonyx5123
      @felonyx5123 16 дней назад

      @@Godzillahistoryfan34 America: Let's throw away all the things everyone was promised before the war and create the League of Nations instead.
      Also America: Doesn't join the League of Nations.

  • @maurogamba9066
    @maurogamba9066 Месяц назад +52

    D'Annunzio and his legionary:" we take this personally"

    • @aRandomDubstepEnjoyer
      @aRandomDubstepEnjoyer Месяц назад +2

      Never ask a woman her age
      Never ask a man his salary
      Never ask d'annunzio what he was doing in Fiume

  • @philipott4970
    @philipott4970 Месяц назад +14

    The paper article about "Our source has told us the campaign in Gallipoli will be 'largely bloodless'..." almost made me spit my tea out.

    • @DardanellesBy108
      @DardanellesBy108 Месяц назад +1

      That caught my attention more than the other parts of the newspaper! Haha! Good job by History Matters.

  • @araxiel2051
    @araxiel2051 Месяц назад +33

    I had to pause the newspaper at 0:39 and read through it... great stuff.

  • @giuliore7747
    @giuliore7747 Месяц назад +26

    There is a tiny but significant issue in the maps of Italy post the Treaty of Versaille in this video: the city of Zara, shown in the post Treaty of Versaille Italy was not given to Italy by the Entante: after the birth of Yugoslavia, the town of Fiume, a city near the borther with Istria, one of the new Italian land, wanted to join Italy because the inhabitants were mostly Italians, but the government had to deal with the new communism riots across the country, so 2500 nationalist, under the rule of Gabriele D'Annunzio, an Italian nationalist poet, invaded Fiume and they occupied it until 1920: the Yugoslavian government new that they needed to solve the issue, so they met with the Italian government: it was agreed that Fiume would become an indipendet city, and that Italy would gain Zara: this is pretty important, because Zara was the most important town in Dalmatia, and knowing that makes the treaty more unfair to Italy.

  • @markbendall6794
    @markbendall6794 Месяц назад +30

    The animation in these videos is a huge part of the appeal of these videos. Keep up the amazing work and thank you for reminding us why History Matters!

  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD Месяц назад +132

    Everyone likes to blame Britain for breaking agreements but no one actually blames themselves for signing an agreement with Britain lol

    • @voland6846
      @voland6846 Месяц назад +41

      Agreed, you trust Perfidious Albion at your own peril!

    • @exercisethemind
      @exercisethemind Месяц назад +6

      ​@@voland6846 that's a burn.

  • @ThatRandomGuy0
    @ThatRandomGuy0 Месяц назад +136

    If it had been a Pinky Promise, none of this would have ever happened. Just saying

    • @elivanto1673
      @elivanto1673 Месяц назад +5

      Nobody breaks a Pinky Promise!

  • @GuyIncognito-pm4cp
    @GuyIncognito-pm4cp Месяц назад +6

    Just want to point out how much better the animation has gotten. The contrast between the French Revolution vid and this one shows that HM has made a lot of progress in his Artistry, and I’m real damn proud of him for that.
    Just wanna say, Great job, man!

  • @RaffaeleMigotto
    @RaffaeleMigotto Месяц назад +13

    Many people in dalmazia especialy the citys where ethnicly Italians, people usually forgot why italy whant those lands

  • @luisfilipe2023
    @luisfilipe2023 Месяц назад +11

    “That is a future problem so we don’t care for now” sums up a lot of history

  • @nyguesswho
    @nyguesswho Месяц назад +23

    Dude I remember your channel back when it was “10 Minute History” and you only had a few hundred thousand subscribers. Now you’re getting closer to 2 million, and I’m so happy to see that you’re doing so well. It’s been a pleasure to watch this channel grow. Thanks for all the good memories, and here’s to years more of great content.
    Oh and please bring back “End of year Q&A” one of these days please!

  • @XMarkxyz
    @XMarkxyz Месяц назад +18

    0:11 Forgot to paint Libya green too, was part of Italy since before the war

  • @justinweber4977
    @justinweber4977 Месяц назад +83

    I'm here before the obligatory "Because James Bisonette-" answer to the title question, neat!

  • @bonwatcher
    @bonwatcher Месяц назад +12

    The chalkboard reading, "Betrayal Time" is too accurate. 🤣

  • @victoraguirre5545
    @victoraguirre5545 Месяц назад +4

    The real treason was the lack of classic "well, no" animation at 1:37

  • @angelb.823
    @angelb.823 Месяц назад +76

    There is also another reason to point out for southern Anatolia. During the Turkish War of Independence, the Italians withdrew from southern Anatolia and left behind their weapons for the Turkish nationalists to arm themselves, essentially becoming their neutral allies. The reason for their withdrawal was that the Italians didn't want the Greeks to succeed against the Turks and have a strong presence in Smyrna (modern Izmir; which the Greeks had occupied on the request of the Allies) and, by extension, the rest of Asia Minor.

    • @islammehmeov2334
      @islammehmeov2334 Месяц назад

      Way the heck will Italy sport a cuntry that they waged 4 years of bloody war against it's allied?

    • @its_pantazhss2134
      @its_pantazhss2134 Месяц назад +14

      Correct, as a Greek, I’m very glad to see people that know what actually happened in that war, all of the Europeans turned against the Greeks, I only maybe kinda respect the British, who didn’t turn and support the Turks, but after everyone had done so, they stopped supporting Greece too… they just watched

    • @dah0heavy
      @dah0heavy Месяц назад

      @@its_pantazhss2134 if the only way for you to prosecute your little ethnic clensing/genocide campaign is with the support both material commercial and militarily of ALL the major powers of Europe, you just didn't deserve it.

    • @angelb.823
      @angelb.823 Месяц назад +18

      @@its_pantazhss2134 Yes, but the Greeks were also at fault to some extend. They had the chance to show their might as a united force, but they were caught in the polarizing scale of the National Schism, which eventually led to restoration of the Germanophile-Greek court under Gounaris and the expulsion of Venizelos (which was also the pretext for the drop of support from the Allied cause). Had Venizelos remained in the premiership, the future for Greece would have been much different than it is currently now.

    • @its_pantazhss2134
      @its_pantazhss2134 Месяц назад +9

      @@angelb.823 yeah yeah I know, I actually mostly blame the Greeks themselves too, we were doing so perfectly since the start of 1900s to the balkan wars and the Great War but we had to fuck it up by not getting along with each other in the end

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 Месяц назад +20

    Of couse it's easy to say this one century later, but given the way many of the treaties at the end of WW1 were handled by the Entente, from not keeping the promises to Italy to the humiliating conditions imposed on Germany, it was inevitable that the "war to end all wars" would soon lead to an even worse conflict.

    • @stafer3
      @stafer3 Месяц назад +6

      I mean lets say you scratch those conditions. How exactly do you want to sell to French public that Germany killed or crippled 20% of all men in France, and after 4 years, when the front finally collapsed, and Entente was about to push into Germany proper, that you are just stopping before your complete victory, with getting 0 in return, because you don’t want to hurt German feelings?
      Like seriously, Italy was on winning side, and they turned fascist and hopped on the next world war, just because they got ‘only’ small spoil of war.
      What do you think France would do?
      Like imagine that version of Europe. You have pissed France. You have pissed Yugoslavia, since you also want to accommodate Italy. And you have Soviet union. Congratulation, you have your new coalition of countries who want to destroy the status quo, you have built.
      And unlike Germany, Soviet union and Italy, in our timeline. That coalition would have been much more cohesive. Since France didn’t want to expand into Soviet union.

    • @OzixiThrill
      @OzixiThrill Месяц назад +6

      I do recall someone calling the end of "The Great War" a "20 year truce", so it was something that was noted, even back then.

    • @feliceabbondante5183
      @feliceabbondante5183 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@stafer3small plot of Land? You forgot the fact Italy Lost almost a million troops over coastal Lands inhabited by large populations of italians which in the end they didn't even get ,i guess the self determination of countries which did nothing but create a region wide conflict did not care about those italians who all "disappeared" conveniently After wwii ...

    • @feliceabbondante5183
      @feliceabbondante5183 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@stafer3the americans went to war for much less

  • @347Jimmy
    @347Jimmy Месяц назад +206

    Last time I was this early, Italy hadn't been unified yet

  • @user-cr3ti1vj6f
    @user-cr3ti1vj6f Месяц назад +24

    - Circumstances have changed.
    - The nature of promises is that they are immune to the changing circumstances.

    • @V1489Cygni
      @V1489Cygni Месяц назад +5

      - nature has changed
      -pray I don't change it any further

  • @bbenjoe
    @bbenjoe Месяц назад +44

    Per the 1920 treaty of Rapallo, Italy did gain the city of Zara, and a few more islands at the Dalmatian coast. Also the city of Fiume (a part of Hungary until 1918) was annexed by them in 1924.
    Of course, these gains were nullified per the Paris Peace Treaty of 1947, and were given to Yugoslavia, as well as everything east of the doorstep of Trieste.

    • @GenovaYork951
      @GenovaYork951 Месяц назад +4

      Rijeka was Croatian. Not Hungarian lol.

    • @weirdguylol
      @weirdguylol Месяц назад +5

      ​@@GenovaYork951and Croatia was a part of Hungary 😐

    • @GenovaYork951
      @GenovaYork951 Месяц назад +3

      @@weirdguylol No. Learn basic history.

    • @bbenjoe
      @bbenjoe Месяц назад +6

      @@GenovaYork951 Wrong. It was a part of Hungary proper, multiple times, lastly from 1868 to 1918, as "corpus separatum" ie. an exclave.

    • @GenovaYork951
      @GenovaYork951 Месяц назад +2

      @@bbenjoe No. It was part of the Croatia-Slavonia.

  • @rockoorbe2002
    @rockoorbe2002 Месяц назад +6

    Well, I'm aware that Greece was also trying to take that southern portion of Turkey that Italy wanted, not to mention Constantinople and Adrianople. That would have been an interesting three way comflict between Turkey, Italy, and Greece.

  • @macplayzvc2889
    @macplayzvc2889 Месяц назад +12

    Love these videos man.

  • @sigma228ohio
    @sigma228ohio Месяц назад +10

    2:53 "Go cry to the tsar"
    Tsar might be a lil bit ded in 1918

  • @emilianohermosilla3996
    @emilianohermosilla3996 Месяц назад +2

    Always answering the questions that I didn’t know I needed! Great video!

  • @Nyx773
    @Nyx773 Месяц назад +7

    0:39 "The London News" needs to hire a new redactor.
    🤣 One of the best easter egg newspapers yet

    • @Donald_the_Potholer
      @Donald_the_Potholer Месяц назад

      With censorship decisions that shortsighted, it's no wonder that the "Great War" went on for 4 times as many Christmases as was originally planned.

  • @user-kc7hc5ur2c
    @user-kc7hc5ur2c Месяц назад +4

    0:57 Ikaria, Furnoi and Samos were not part of Isole d' Egee (Dodecanese islands) so they probably weren't discussed at the treaty of London.

  • @familygash7500
    @familygash7500 Месяц назад +7

    *VIDEO SUGGESTION:*
    Why does San Marino exist?

  • @Dubnoreix
    @Dubnoreix Месяц назад +2

    I can’t be the only one who always paused the video to read the newspaper, right? They’re always a work of art.

    • @DardanellesBy108
      @DardanellesBy108 Месяц назад +1

      I read them all. They are always brilliant work by History Matters.

  • @datdumbguy1067
    @datdumbguy1067 Месяц назад +5

    "Go cry to the tsar", was funnier to me than it should've been.

  • @mrniceguy7168
    @mrniceguy7168 Месяц назад +1

    The baby on the sidewalk with a disappointed look on his face is great

  • @emi_again
    @emi_again Месяц назад +8

    A Wild Duce appears!

  • @user-gq4sm2ws3x
    @user-gq4sm2ws3x Месяц назад +2

    I love your channel, its very informative and entertaining! Nice job existing =)

  • @colindaniels945
    @colindaniels945 Месяц назад +8

    The Vittoria Multilada aka the mutilated victory

  • @ravenwilder4099
    @ravenwilder4099 Месяц назад +1

    The "Secret Treaty" and "Problem for the Next Generation" images are just ... *chef's kiss*

  • @seapickle4119
    @seapickle4119 Месяц назад +3

    And also Albania won the Vlora war in 1920 securing its independence and it's territory .

  • @Crewman26
    @Crewman26 Месяц назад +88

    We're so back

  • @azlanadil3646
    @azlanadil3646 Месяц назад +8

    Croatia and Bosnia circa 1918: we want into Yugoslavia.
    And they would never change their minds!

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Месяц назад +1

    Always love your newspaper clippings. Hilarious

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 Месяц назад +3

    "But that was a problem for the future."
    Homer Simpson in WWII: "It's not the future yet. It's just lousy, stinking 'now'!"

  • @paulcowlishaw
    @paulcowlishaw Месяц назад +2

    I've learnt more about history through this channel then my history teacher at high school taught me

  • @svg_apricot4472
    @svg_apricot4472 Месяц назад +4

    gotta apreciate the effort of actually writing fake articles for the newspaper instead of just repeating gibberish like most media

    • @scottabc72
      @scottabc72 Месяц назад +3

      And well researched fake articles, I was going to nit pick the reference to a Chinese Emperor since the 1911 revolution had already happened but I forgot the new Chinese president Yuan Shikai had briefly proclaimed himself Emperor in 1915

  • @emperorpalpatine2721
    @emperorpalpatine2721 Месяц назад

    The newspaper at 0:38 is golden. 🤣

  • @Janny890
    @Janny890 Месяц назад +101

    Italy was such a good sport about it that they went against Germany again in WW2 for no gain again.

    • @jdotoz
      @jdotoz Месяц назад +29

      They gained survival.

    • @cchutney348
      @cchutney348 Месяц назад +40

      They were so incompetent, they might as well could have been enemies.

    • @tuluppampam
      @tuluppampam Месяц назад

      ​@@cchutney348 Erwin Rommel stated that italians soldiers were good when placed under someone competent (who was not an Italian general because they were useless).

    • @noone-kk2zs
      @noone-kk2zs Месяц назад

      The italians truly deserve nothing

    • @Bracus.Reghusk
      @Bracus.Reghusk Месяц назад +12

      They even ceded minor town to France and where obliged to give special statut to the Aoeste Region in fact, they also lose Istria, Zadar and Julian to Yougoslavia, without talking about their colony.

  • @ScaryEspacio
    @ScaryEspacio Месяц назад +1

    YES WE NEED THIS. Thanks History Matters

  • @Redguns4life
    @Redguns4life Месяц назад +36

    "Why did the Entente betray Italy after WW1?"
    Italy couldn't spin three plates.

  • @dawesome_sauce
    @dawesome_sauce Месяц назад

    The Fez-Wearing Italian Man tease at the end was *chef's kiss*

  • @CadeVonWilkens3117
    @CadeVonWilkens3117 Месяц назад +3

    3:04 A problem for THE FEZ WEARING ITALIAN MAN. 😆

  • @idaho_girl
    @idaho_girl Месяц назад +1

    I've learned I must always stop and read the print on the documents you post! LOL

  • @galboy6117
    @galboy6117 Месяц назад +3

    Idea for next video- Why did Denmark decline

  • @muhammadhabibieamiro3639
    @muhammadhabibieamiro3639 Месяц назад +2

    Another amazing video

  • @tariarun5063
    @tariarun5063 Месяц назад +6

    Also Italy was assigned to occupy the Adriatic coast during the fall of Austria-Hungary waiting for the treatises to be signed but there were many clashes with local slavs so UK, France and USA had to step in and this didn't help the Italian case

  • @theskycavedin
    @theskycavedin Месяц назад +2

    Italy did get some of the territory they asked for, and Italy officially was satisfied. At least at first. But then the army revolted with the March on Fiume, and the resentment grew from there on out.

  • @matteopinamonti1867
    @matteopinamonti1867 Месяц назад +3

    With a final cameo from a young and fezless FEZ-WEARING-ITALIAN-MAN 😂

  • @RubberToeYT
    @RubberToeYT Месяц назад +2

    Great video as always

  • @capnstewy55
    @capnstewy55 Месяц назад +3

    It's hard to conquer land you don't have any troops on. Italy would have been much better off sitting it out until 1918 or 1919 then going after whatever they wanted. No major power would have stopped them.

  • @butterw55
    @butterw55 Месяц назад +2

    "Betrayal Time" would be a nice title for a TV series.

  • @Assaut19283
    @Assaut19283 Месяц назад +7

    The decision to not give what was promised to Italy arguably led to the birth of Fascism in Europe. It's an interesting and often overlooked part of history because most people just care about Hitler, ignoring the fact that Hitler's entire ideology was heavily influenced by Mussolini.

    • @Dr_Eggman_2
      @Dr_Eggman_2 12 дней назад

      Yes, it's a very complex discussion. In reality, some trace the birth of fascism to the Italian-Turkish war of 1912. So far, the discussion of the genesis of fascism that has fascinated me the most is the discussion regarding the phenomenon of "second modernity".

  • @isaacbobjork7053
    @isaacbobjork7053 23 дня назад +2

    Very bold of the Entente to promise Albania to Italy since the country was invaded by both sides although they were not involved in the conflict.

  • @camhabibi2217
    @camhabibi2217 Месяц назад +19

    Wilson/the US didn't negotiate Italy's entry into WW1, so whatever promises the Entente made to Rome in 1915 were of little concern to the Americans negotiating peace in 1918/1919.

    • @calogerohuygens4430
      @calogerohuygens4430 Месяц назад +8

      Problem is that Italy requests have been made and accepted before USA entered war. Changing them doesn't make sense at all. Treaty has been written on purpose to avoid "forgetting" it.

    • @gs7828
      @gs7828 Месяц назад +1

      But the US was not a main actor in the war, nor amongst the top nations by contribution. It was really about France and the UK at that point.

    • @camhabibi2217
      @camhabibi2217 Месяц назад

      The U.S. wasn’t a main actor in WW1? That’s news to me…

    • @calogerohuygens4430
      @calogerohuygens4430 Месяц назад

      @@camhabibi2217 as combatant personnel they were irrelevant. They counted about Materials and money loans to Entente.

    • @gs7828
      @gs7828 Месяц назад +2

      @@camhabibi2217 What do you mean? It literally wasn't: it joined at the end and had no impact before on the blockade of the German industry, goods or strategies. It was a neutral country that did not take part in most of the fighting and for most of the war.
      The war wasn't won by immaterial loans. It was about producing material and fighting. The main effort was of course done by France on land; in the sea by the Royal Navy and Italy secured the Mediterranean.

  • @Mrepicman1001
    @Mrepicman1001 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for the video

  • @richardalex4516
    @richardalex4516 Месяц назад +7

    Entente : "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."

    • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
      @giulianoilfilosofo7927 Месяц назад +2

      Italy was One of the Great Powers of the Entente, call It as It should be called, Anglo (US+UK)-French axis

  • @lolwut0696
    @lolwut0696 Месяц назад +2

    Wilson didnt take in account the fact that the croatian area at the time had a lot of people close to the italian culture (specifically for their venetian ancestry).

  • @jarnodatema
    @jarnodatema Месяц назад +4

    2:28 what are they wearing

  • @ziroja
    @ziroja Месяц назад +2

    As a Serb, I can only say that we should have implemented the London accords with Italy bilaterally, ignoring everyone else. But, our king wanted a bigger state, so we ended up in Yugoslavia, which was more devastating for my people than any foreign occupation. Italy and Serbia could have easily defined their border without many issues.

    • @2djman
      @2djman Месяц назад

      fala lepa al ne slazem se s tim prijedlogom

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Месяц назад +5

    “Go cry to the Tsar.”
    💀

  • @brendenstuder6119
    @brendenstuder6119 Месяц назад +2

    The only ones that wanted a greater Yugoslavia were Serbia and Woodrow Wilson. The Slovenians as an example wanted nothing to do with being part of Yugoslavia and preferred independence, but Wilson made 14 points that he apparently worked really hard on.

    • @Heldarion
      @Heldarion 21 день назад

      Slovenia was aware they would be absolutely fucked if they didn't join Yugoslavia. That way, they were in a a country with a WW1 winner (Serbia) and in a better bargaining position. Gained Prekmurje thanks to that and eventually regained the western part of the country after WW2. Without Yugoslavia (in all its iterations) I'm not sure Slovenia even exists today (although they couldn't have foreseen this back then).

  • @WallachianCrusader
    @WallachianCrusader Месяц назад +5

    I think it was because USA cancelled the Treaty if London.

    • @adamwarlock1
      @adamwarlock1 Месяц назад +3

      A lesson that if people are only willing to promise you stuff in a secret treaty maybe they don't really plan to do what they say.

    • @gs7828
      @gs7828 Месяц назад

      @@adamwarlock1 Well it happened again later: Italy in the 1930s was like "how come the UK and France own half of Africa". I want some colonies too. And yet there were double standards; even the Ethiopian Empire, which colonised its neighbour, was considered more by the UK. Given the standards of the time, these things add up and had a counterbalance: Italian invasions in Africa.

  • @afass.7447
    @afass.7447 Месяц назад +2

    Saying that the south Slavs only wished to be united under a Yugoslav state, is simply wrong as many preferred independence and Yugoslavia afterwards was strained by internal problems

  • @kingcobra8840
    @kingcobra8840 Месяц назад +10

    It's also worth noting that after the war, Italy forcefully occupied much of the Yugoslav territory they had been promised until the early 1920s when they came to an agreement with the Yugoslav government.

    • @mikeg2306
      @mikeg2306 Месяц назад

      But not for long

    • @mr.archivity
      @mr.archivity Месяц назад +1

      Not Italy but an independent group of Italians.

    • @lukedalton
      @lukedalton Месяц назад +1

      as the serbian occupied their assigned part, it was more or less the norm of the day

    • @filippocassano9753
      @filippocassano9753 29 дней назад +1

      Much? The two town of Zara and Fiume?

    • @lukedalton
      @lukedalton 29 дней назад +1

      @@filippocassano9753 no that were gained to Italy by the Treaty of Rapallo, Italy simply occupied the land promised by the Treaty of London as previous agreement and in accordance with the rest of his allies...as the Serbian had done the same thing for the territory assigned to them

  • @akshatsharma1342
    @akshatsharma1342 Месяц назад +1

    that "go cry to the tsar" took me off guard 😆

  • @brandonlyon730
    @brandonlyon730 Месяц назад +4

    Why did they always wanted Albania in particular so much?

    • @sydhenderson6753
      @sydhenderson6753 Месяц назад +5

      Control of the Adriatic?

    • @pietrodauria7022
      @pietrodauria7022 Месяц назад +4

      @@sydhenderson6753 Puglia and Albania are the gates of the Adriatic, the goal was forming a little mare nostrum there.

  • @user-ju8wr6fc9m
    @user-ju8wr6fc9m Месяц назад +1

    It is interesting that before the war France and Great Britain agreed to enter into an alliance with Russia for Constantinople. But when France and Britain began to carry out the Gallipoli operation and Nicholas's joyful advisers came to them with the words "thank you, let's appoint one of the Russians as governor?" The allies said yes, we will capture the city, but the governor will be ours. This enraged the Russian Tsar, he began to threaten to conclude a separate peace with Germany. The Kaiser immediately joined in, promising anything, and only after that France and Great Britain agreed to make a council of three representatives with a Russian at the head. This division of even a city that had not yet been captured gave rise to mistrust among the Entente.
    The leaders of Russian intelligence directly reported to the Tsar that the Allies would not fulfill any territorial promises and perhaps even the loss of military territories in Poland, the independence of which would be supported by Britain. Although the naive Tsar did not believe everything and wanted to fight to the last. But the British were not so naive when the Russian oligarchs came to them. With the words the tsar wants to make peace, therefore Russia needs a revolution. They fully supported the February revolution. the conspirators were meeting right in the embassy. After the revolution, Russia began to weaken and former tsarist intelligence officers reported that France, Britain, Japan and the USA had agreed to divide Russia like China into economic spheres of influence in payment of war debts. But the new oligarchic government ignored it.
    And the most forgettable result of this whole story. Svechnikov, a tsarist colonel and part-time counterintelligence officer, led The Attack of the Dead Men, or the Battle of Osowiec Fortress. A month before the February revolution, he was sent to Finland to protect St. Petersburg from rebellion. But without receiving an order, he did not interfere with it in any way and was faced with the fact of the overthrow of the monarchy. He meets with Lenin and fully supports him with his division. At that time, Lenin was hiding from the government and did not have much influence among the top Bolsheviks. But the help of a combat-ready army that had not lost discipline changed everything. When the leaders of the Bolshevik Party did not support the revolution, Lenin threatened to leave the party, saying that he would make a revolution with the workers and soldiers. This convinced the party to support Lenin. Later, during the October Revolution, the Bolsheviks could not take the government building in three assaults and everything was hanging by a thread. But at that moment, Svechnikov's 106th Infantry Division arrived, restored order in the city and took the Winter Palace. It's funny how British diplomacy outsmarted itself and ultimately lost everything.

  • @faenethlorhalien
    @faenethlorhalien Месяц назад +5

    Hardly treason. The Brits, USA and French, that is, those who really mattered and matter, understood that pacifying the Balkans was more important than Italy's imperial aspirations. Italy throwing itself into the arms of fascism a few years later was their choice. They could just not have done that, but they did, so it's not the fault of the big powers. Italy helped very, very little during WW1, what with being stuck in all the Isonzo battles. Bearing in mind that both the Italian and Austrian armies were so hopeless that they could not beat each other, Austria sending its troops to some other front would have not made much of a difference anyways. It's a war that Germany and only Germany was winning, in the territorial and military sense, but they lost it because in the end wars are lost because of war attrition. Italy should have stayed neutral and things would have been better for everyone. They threw the best of their youth into the meat grinder of the Alps just for a bit of territory that was Austrian and Hungarian by right of conquest. They should consider themselves lucky and satisfied they managed to unify most of their original territory after the unification wars and, more importantly, that they managed to gain control of the Veneto. Everything else, I blame their king and I blame mostly Luigi Cadorna. What a pair of morons: bred in the 19th century, with 19th century mentalities, and unable to realize that war in the 20th century had changed forever.

  • @professorhal8098
    @professorhal8098 Месяц назад

    RUclips has a talent for asking questions I dont care for the answer to until the exact moment I read the question, then answering the question in a way that makes me feel like i shouldve guessed it sooner

  • @Maxfromohio2155
    @Maxfromohio2155 Месяц назад +26

    Because James bisonette didn’t want Italy to have all that land

  • @franz6859
    @franz6859 Месяц назад +2

    1:15 is the birth of James Bissonette

  • @aytacdenizacar7703
    @aytacdenizacar7703 Месяц назад +6

    When the Turkish War of independence began in 1919, all the Entente powers including Italy hesitated to fight against the rising Turkish nationalist forces. They had to make a decision quickly, but since they were in disagreement amongst themselves about almost every single territorial exchange at that point, they were not able to organize a collective response against the Turkish forces. Atatürk knew this and exploited this as much as possible. Italy decided not to fight against the Turkish forces at all and quickly withdrew from Anatolia. French and the British couldn't decide who will have the control over the Bosphorus. İstanbul was occupied by the British at the time, hence the Bosphorus straits, and French didn't feel that it was fair, but still they hated the Turks and wanted to punish them by supporting Armenians. Still they didn't wanna fight Turkish forces directly hence they withdrew after a couple of skirmishes in the southern Anatolia. British resisted the most against any territorial concessions because the current situation benefited them the most but at the end they were pretty much alone against the Turkish juggernaut, their only ally was Greeks. They decided not to fight directly, instead supporting Greeks, probably they thought they can handle Greeks more easily if they win, but they lost and at the end British were also forced to withdraw. Since Italy withdrew quickly without putting up a fight and even leaving arms and supplies for Turks to use, Turks remember that still today and remain friendly with the Italians ever since.

    • @stevens1041
      @stevens1041 Месяц назад +1

      There is something that I believe to be true of geopolitics: the best friends are not neighbors. Italy and Greece have had a complicated relationship since thousands of years. Italians are also cynical people--why are they going to fight and die to benefit the Greeks? Especially after 500,000+ Italians were just lost fighting Austria.

    • @aytacdenizacar7703
      @aytacdenizacar7703 Месяц назад

      @@stevens1041 i don't agree, if it benefited the greeks, they would be able to somehow sort it out, but even greeks knew that britain will come out on top at the end. italy withdrew because they chose their other neighbor, namely turks, over the british. they were so fed up with the british that they didn't think twice.

  • @JKO._.921
    @JKO._.921 Месяц назад +2

    2:53 "Go cry to the Tsar" 😭😭

  • @DuxpaOfficial
    @DuxpaOfficial Месяц назад +3

    The Reason: James Bisonette didn't like Italy so he made the Entente abandon them.

  • @Quin_Ram
    @Quin_Ram Месяц назад +1

    Happy ninth anniversary History Matters!