Bring back Apple's BIG FAILURE with Apple Silicon (please)!
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- The 12 inch MacBook was many things: loved, hated, appreciated, mocked. But what it was above all else, was bold. It pushed limits, changed the game, and wasn't afraid to try something extreme. And I think it deserves a second change. So today I am once again asking Apple to bring back their failed Mac from the Intel days! Think about what could happen with a new M2 or M3 Apple Silicon 12 inch MacBook! Portability, thin and lightness, it would be the ultimate MacBook.
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Why the 12“ wasn’t the first M1 Laptop from Apple will always be a question for me. It would have been PERFECT!!
like the "MacBook" name now has that reputation unlike the air
Dumb comment
They didn't do it in 2015 cause they didn't have the tech yet nor the software to make it all work at the time until 5 years later
12 inch MacBook is the dream.
I agree @MacBookAir1234
What I would do is have it as the entry level macbook, get rid of the Air M1 and keep this line as the under 1000dl mac with one generation back SOC. Have the Air be one level up from this. It sucked in performance but the computer itself was amazing I loved it for quick weekend trips for office and email.
You're right, the thing is amazingly thin and light. But the weak performance made it only suitable for email and office.
It is only capable for tasks that the iPad can handle just as well. Even the first iPad Pro is better at web browsing, has better keyboards and battery life.
put the M1 in this thing !!
Yes, just M1.
Even the display is still ok.
Apple wants the iPad Pro to cover up for smaller MacBook.
It’s a business decision I think, otherwise (Technically) Apple should have no problem to make a smaller Apple chip MacBook.
The 12 inch retina macbook was my favorite computer I've ever owned. Only things I'd change is maybe another USB C port and thinner bezels to compete with current screens. I loved the butterfly keyboard, but the current tech is fine too.
An Apple silicon 12" or 12.5 Inch Macbook would be awesome! I guess the only issue would be if you put the M2 inside it would overheat even more. They could make modded version where it only uses efficiency cores or heavily uses them? The m2 efficiency cores are actually very good.
It would be dope to see like an m2light with more efficiency cores
Even with the M2 it would be insanely better than the Intel versions
they could put in an underclocked m2 or use very aggressive thermal throttling and it would be just fine I'd imagine, though I hope they would do a proper passive cooling solution as well.
Let's be honest any apple silicon chip even with thermal throttles is gonna perform better than the original
@@Hirokee_ Good Point. I don't think you would buy a 12.5 inch macbook for intensive tasks anyways.
Agreed! I was talking to Vadim about a new 12" last week. It would be sweet to have a new one even if it has 1 TB port + Magsafe. Not sure if you saw our video on low power mode, but the most impressive thing about M2 is just how powerful it is in low power mode because of the much better efficiency cores. I'm talking about half the power usage of those intel M3 chips with super low temps and killer performance.
It would be interesting if Apple came out with an "M2 Light" with say eight efficiency cores and two performance cores. Stick that in a 12 inch form factor MB and tune it to use the performance cores as little as possible. Ideally with a couple of USB/Thunderbolt 3 ports plus MagSafe 3. I could see that being a winner with the ultra portability crowd.
I think a15 will be a better choice for the 12inch MacBook
I think a15 will be a better choice for the 12inch MacBook
@@bottlefish6386 Does the A15 have virtualisation support? I don't think it does. Which makes it a non starter for a laptop.
@@MarleyTravels well,the m2 chip is basically based on the a15 chip, and before the m1 came out, apple did put the a12z chip inside a Mac mini prototype for developers to test it out. So I think it should work fine.
A modern version of the 12" MacBook would be an incredible machine. Hell, even if Apple gave it the A15 chip if it allows them to lower the price to $800, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I’m pretty sure that machine actually existed within Apple even way back in 2015.
It probably wasn’t released because they hadn’t figured out the entire transition yet, perhaps the A chips’ graphics couldn’t handle non-Apple apps or perhaps Rosetta 2 wasn’t done etc.
Either way macOS was probably running on arm even when they were doing the intel transition. So something must have kept it back, maybe they genuinely thought intel would deliver magical chips to thin devices (tl;dr: they didn’t).
A15 has way too little RAM to be in any laptop. they'd need to design proprietary A15 chips increasing the cost anyway. not to mention thunderbolt support.
I would definitely buy one. My wife loved her 11" air because of how thin and small it was. When we recently replaced it with an M1 Macbook Air, she was disappointed at how much heavier and larger it was compared to her beloved 11" air. However, there wasn't another choice. A 12" macbook similar to the old 12" would have been perfect.
Hmm the M1 MacBook Air is still incredibly light and small. I bet if in a month if you ask her if she'd like a 11" display she'll say no. People get used to different screen sizes very quickly. All you're saying is she was used to one size.
@@bradavon - Sure, a bigger and better screen is usually better, however light weight and easy fit into a small space were more important than screen size.
@@bradavon 13 inch takes up space on my school desk, so no
I had a couple of these MacBooks and loved them. Never did anything requiring great speed and didn't know I was supposed to hate the keyboard... so it was great.
I loved the keyboard too!
Yisssss, it was such a based form factor, even an under-clocked M1 or M2 would be good for this thing. It was unbelievably portable, and I desperately want it back :3
If they replaced the M1 air with a 12” M2, added more than one USB-C and a reliable keyboard while keeping the $999 price point, they’d be onto something. I always thought that a smaller, less capable machine that cost more than the Air was a non starter.
so the existing air but with a smaller display?
I don't know if I'd be comfortable with an even smaller display
it’s gonna flop like the mini iphones. we’re just in an era where people like bigger displays.
This is a dumb comment lol
@@alanyu7732 reminds me of the SUV craze that we’ve had for sometime. Screw small sedans, people just want everything bigger these days.
Yes, I would buy a new 12” MacBook powered by Apple silicone and replace my current one from 2015.
I’m jealous yours is still working. I got the dreaded SSD failure in mine.
@@Garrettdx1988 Love the form factor of the 12" MacBook. Crossing my fingers for a future replacement before mine goes belly up.
Me too, I really hope there is a successor before the 12" get's 10 years old. I
I’m with you. The 12.5” M2 (or M3 3nm) is my dream computer! Most of the power with none of the bulk.
Nice call. Laptop is still irreplaceable for some tasks and the 0.7 lbs weight difference really matters. I am still using my almost maxed out 12-inch 2017 MacBook retina ram and still waiting for MacBook SE with m2 chip.
Yes, yes, yes!!! My wife is using one since 2017 and loves it very, very much. I proposed to exchange it to an M1 Air last year, but she said "meh. It's nothing special." And I fully get it.
I would love to have a 12 inch apple silicone Mac, for sure.
I remember seeing this MacBook and being really excited, but as someone who edits a lot and needs ports for hard drives, memory cards, monitors etc I knew it wasn’t for me. Which is a shame because I LOVED the look of it.
Feel like it was just a big flex from Apple just to say ‘look how thin we can go’. It’s a great device for being totally wireless, if you don’t need any peripherals for your computing experience, but some industries and workflows just weren’t at that stage at the time, and still aren’t.
Yeah...... it really sucks when there's this super cool piece of tech you fell in love with but really doesn't fit for your daily tasks and workflow. It is very rare when you find something like an m1 macbook air for just 200 bucks at a pawn shop like I did; and it only had an issue with the OS to be reinstalled using the device itself. I have to say I got really lucky (it even had a plastic case, keyboard cover, and screen protector already on it.)
Yeah! That was the mind blowing product! In both ways - there was so huge admiration about form-factor itself and that there was so giant disappointment about a first laggy new mac in my entire life!
You and Snazzy will be the reason people demanding Apple to make a 12 inch MacBook SE
Why would I choose a smaller screen and less performance and probably less battery life to save 0.5 lbs on an already under 3 pound computer? The 12 inch MacBook didn't make send then and it doesn't make sense now
first of all, the screen is just a tad smaller than 13 inch air m1 , one inch smaller and the weight is like 2/3 of air.. the user case is mostly ppl like me, the ones who travel a lot with just a hand luggage and need a super portable machine.. secondly , I often take my ipad too so i have an additional screen if I need (sidecar).. the weight and the small form factor of 12” macbook is an absolute deal breaker for me. at home I use different macs.. I just wish the keyboard was slightly better + a bit better CPU, even m1 would do.
It’s actually a brilliant laptop, especially for travel.
Doesn’t replace any of the apple silicon macs we have but it’s got a place - especially for travel.
@@project-overland I can appreciate that it is lighter and thinner and smaller but is the MacBook not already sufficiently light and thin? And is the loss of screen real-estate from the already tiny 13" screen not an inhibitor of productivity on a laptop like that
@@tompov227 nope. If it was… I’d take a mba m1
@@tompov227 if you only own one mac, this isn’t it but it’s a banging little back up machine for emails and browsing on the go.
Better option: Put macOS on the 11-inch iPad Pro.
Agreed
But apple won't 🥲
The iPad with a keyboard is unusable.
And Plus, it will probably cost as much if not more as the 12.5 inch macbook.
Nah I disagree
The biggest miscalculation was its starting price of $1300. This along with having only 1 USB port and many disliking the feel of the 1st gen butterfly keyboard led to most customers choosing the Air instead. I saw this play out over and over again on the sales floor. It wasn’t even about the Intel CPU. It just never felt like a good value proposition to almost anyone.
12" almost got me but I'm one of those that preferred the 11" Air for the small size. An M2 11" or 12" would be attractive.
This would be the perfect Mac for me
Not enough room for ports other than USB-C. No HDMI. No microsd card reader. Back to dongle hell.
Also, customers end up paying for Apple's "risk-taking".
I think a 12" Macbook would be perfect nowadays; it was definitely ahead of it's time. Change the bezels, chip, keyboard, update the webcam and screen.... I would buy it in a heartbeat.
not gonna happen, the ipad pro was made to replace that gap, a 12 inch macbook would cannibalize ipad sales
Yes. I was expecting apple to bring the 12 back. The naming scheme seems absolutely chaotic at this point. The 12 could be the new small Macbook Air that was canceled a while ago.
but it would align with current ipad naming scheme, regular ipad has smaller screen, air has bigger screen. though regular ipad is thicker...
@@jaronyuriyh7931 that's one of the things that don't make sense. Also the pro 13" and then.... where is the regular macbook?
Naming convention could be
12 inch MacBook Mini
13 inch Air becomes just plain MacBook
14 in stays as MacBook Pro
16 inch becomes MacBook Pro Max
@@addsimpson1 makes sense to me. But i think everybody could come up with a better naming scheme than apple.
12" Macbook with an M1/2/3 processor would be an instant buy for me.
It’s nice, but I don’t really see anything great about a super thin laptop. I’d rather have chunky and sturdy.
Unless they can figure out a way to go that thin again _without_ needing a butterfly keyboard, this kind of machine returning in Apple Silicon form ain't gonna happen. Yeah, they took some risks when they made all those innovations on the 12" MacBook, and the keyboard redesign that ended up costing them years of reputation was one of them...
Yes... even with a M1 chip the 12" Air, for me, would be a great travel companion.
I used my 12” 2017 macbook for the past 4 years every day (I bought a maxed out one used) until the m2 MacBook Air maxed out arrived on my doorstep 2 weeks ago. It’s the closest, lightest, fanless option to the 12” macbook that I’ve loved using for so long.
13" for me is quite perfect for a laptop
BUT
I would probably switch my 13'' MacBook Pro for an iMac and get a 12'' MacBook Air instead of an iPad. That would be great.
The risk was iphone 13 mini as well. When they saw that 12 mini wasn't selling good, they should have made 13 mini.
I used to be impressed by the form factor of the 12", but after owning a 13" M1 Air, I feel like this is the perfect laptop for me. With the rise of cloud gaming (and my country's fast and cheap internet) I can literally do anything on this little, portable and quiet laptop.
This tiny Mac was amazing. I used it for a year and it was fantastic because it was light. If you carry in your bag you never feel you carry a laptop
Time for Luke to make his own 12 inch Apple silicon Mac. 😃
The 12” MacBook with an M1 or M2 would conflict with the Air IMO…That said I would buy one in a second.
There’s a whole generation of Macs that were ruined by the intel chips inside them. Even in 2015 this thing probably would have done a lot better if it had an iPad chip from that year instead.
I spotted small mistake in your video: it’s not a fantastic laptop, it’s a fanlesstastic laptop! I owned the 12” and would definitely buy a M1 version with the new keyboard. I love the portability. I hope Apple watches your videos too and they will come up something next year.
The ThinkPad Z13 with Ryzen 7 6860z has very similar dimensions to this MacBook, so they could probably get away with a 13.3” display with smaller bezels!
i have a feeling they could do an m2S where it has the same amount of cores as an m1 but with the power efficiency of the m2
The 12” MacBook (2016) was both my favorite computer at first and the most disappointing one by the end. It was crazy, thin, light, portable. It felt like an iPad that functioned like a Mac. 👌 But the keyboard went out twice, the usb-c went out twice. It gave up the ghost, oh-so-much sooner than any other apple product I’ve owned. So after I buried it, I backtracked a year and got the 2015 MacBook Pro. That’s still my daily driver today.
If they bring it back I’d say lose headphone jack (gasp!) and put a USB C on both sides.
I own a 12” macbook 2017 and I really really want it to be upgraded, I am now on a m1 MacBook Air. Really would like to see a 12” apple silicon
So you actually own that many macs... You sir are officially insane :)))
Interesting fact. The box of the M2 MacBook air shows it in the way Tim Cook presented the MacBook 12 inch.
Ives being gone almost guarantees that this will never happen again.
I remember having a netbook back in 2012. My iPad ninth generation and iPad Air fifth generation are a whole lot better than that notebook ever was.
Maybe bringing it back as a MacBook SE with 12 inch screen and M1 but to clocked back version and bring it in midnight, starlight, gold, and sierra blue (aye no one thought of that color huh?😂 a nice baby blue color!)
“Don’t by a 2015 12 inch MacBook” ~ Luke. Me too my self “well great, glad I just bought a fully working one for $100 to use as a throw it in a bag and not care about it kind of laptop.”
"If apple did this again, but had it ACTUALLY WORK.. I think they'd do better" 😂
Do you ever see an m1, or m2 light chip coming out, maybe it would have extra efficiency cores and have a lower base clock to still give you good performance in a small budget friendly package?
just upgrade the a15 or a16 chip with some io and display controllers, modernize the design with a bigger and notched screen, bring it to market for 1299 and i’m convinced people gonna love it
I wouldn't want to be around Luke when he tosses around a slice of pizza like he does the MacBook @9:20.
@8:00 typing with no application opened the best feature yet
The 12 Inch MacBook was the first thing that came into my mind when i first heard about Apple Silicon
Damn, I would instantly buy a 12 inch MacBook with the M2. Sure, it had its downsides, but having a super portable computer with a great screen and battery life (while also being less than 1 KG), it's a perfect computer for being mobile
They couldn't get away with the unreliable butterfly keyboard any more. Maybe that's the design limitation that's holding them back - they can't make a reliable keyboard thin enough?
Apple can release this line of 12” MacBook with high-end iPhone SoC would be a wonderful product
Definitely the MacBook Air over MacBook 12-12.5”. Not that much difference in size and I wouldn’t want to compromise on performance.
Sadly, I don’t think Apple is going to bring this 12 inch form factor back. It would just bite into all sales from the MacBook lineup. The Pro that users buy without actually needing, the overrated and disappointing silicon Air’s. Mostly Everyone would get the 12”.
I Just got two 2017 models one i5 256ssd the other 2017 i7 512 go ssd both 16gb ram. I use them for game development since Apple doesn’t want to invest in a touchscreen macOS.. this is the closest to an iPad Pro. I use screen duet with the headless i5, and it’s basically the Mac pad that I’ve always wanted. Don’t think that this is a solution for having macOS on iPad. Most of the applications that you will want to run are not optimize for touchscreen controls, they do work, however, but the workflow is not as efficient as using mouse or trackpad.
Well of course they could but then the Air would have no reason to exist.
They should just slap a small fan to the M2 in the air, get rid of the 13" MBP and introduce the M2 Macbook.
I bought the 12" MacBook back then for my wife and it still is what she daily uses. Just for email, surfing, collecting fotos, writing. It still serves her well, and she enjoys that small form factor, that makes it so easy to use anywhere.
As long as it has the new keyboard, not the old butterfly keyboard, I am all for the resurrection of the 12 inch Macbook.
Would not ever buy a 12' MacBook, to small.
Feel Apple will not bring back the 12 inch Mac laptop.
Moving from one CPU to another uprooting every compiled app is not what I would call safe.
To counter, look at where bold and risky got them. All their laptops from 2016-2019 were hot garbage.
Aside from the keyboard and display problem, i *think* they couldve been a success if paired with the apple silicon
@@renebaebae0600 You're right. They could be a success NOW with apple silicon and without a butterfly keyboard that ruined an entire generation of macbooks.
I’m considering getting a Mac spec 2017 one to work with my M1 iPad Pro. That seems like a good combo
For some reason one of the most memorable memory I had of this MacBook was seeing Claire Underwood using it in bed in House of Cards 😂
I would definately buy a 12 inch Apple silicon Macbook, I had two of the original ones a 2015 one and a 2017 one which i used extensively when traveling, they were very slow, but I put up with it for the fantastic form factor.
For me, this form factor fits THE REAL Macbook Air concept.
I used to have a 12 inch 2015 retina with a stand, a magic mouse and a magic keyboard, I just had to sell it to buy a medicine for my mom :(. My experience was good, I really didn´t suffered the butterfly keyboard because I used the Mac as a desktop Mac, I miss how beautiful it looked (I had the Space Gray), I still have the dongle I bought to connect an external 24 inch monitor, SD card slot and 2 USB classic ports, the only thing I hated was the SSD storage, only 256GB, but still, one of the best designs, a living fossil from the Jony Ive era.
A 2 in 1 (like surface pro) 12" macbook with apple pen support would be great rather than just 12" macbook in previous form factor.
If it would be at 899 dollars,it would be a good MacBook Air replacement
Nailed it. There are enough people who would pay “full price” for 12” super portable. Clocked down apple silicon, MagSafe, 1x usb. Done.
it is unbelievably thin and tiny my dirty mind starts to laugh
It was 12" due to the constraints at the time. That time isn't now.
I just bought the last 2017 m3 MacBook 12-inch, from a pawn shop. Wiped it from scratch and didn’t restore any backups - it’s been great! Battery life is “fine” and the PDFs load and scroll a bit slow, but I barely notice it.
I use Screen Sharing to load my desktop Mac and play games remotely. For sound, I go to the AirPlay menu and select the MacBook 12-inch … and this works! Two-way sharing of audio & video.
With 12.9" iPads, we're not likely to see any 12" MacBooks.
I’d trade-in my M2 Air for a 12” MacBook in a heartbeat!
Being iPad-like thin was a nice idea, but I still reckon it really wasn't necessary to skimp on the ports as much as they did. That decision had Ive's scent all over it.
Why they didn’t just make it using the A series chips in iPhones and iPads still puzzles me. They had that chance to revive it. But they didn’t.
Even more importantly, I’d be able to convince my mom to upgrade from the 2018 version to this with pretty much no change in weight. She has rheumatoid arthritis and is extremely limited in how much weight she can carry or hold which is why she got this rather than the 2018 MacBook Air.
That thing could fit a 13” display easily. Just look at the new XPS 13.
You were in highschool when this came out? Jesus when you realise you're older than people that look older than you
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please Luke for the love of god never do that again I nearly had a heart attack
I think the 2015 design is only possible with the flawed butterfly keyboards. If they can finally fix they keyboard, they should bring it back.
Have a 2016 MB and still love it, yes its slow but the form factor is still awesome. If they ever ship an M based version I will definetley be buying one.
Hey Paul!
Great review thanks Luke I have to disagree with you that the first forced touch trackpad was introduced in 2015 MacBook Pro with the old design
We all want this. They could just throw an m1 chip in it and sell it for $599.
I have an idea why this Mac book 12 is not refresh:
1. The Mac book use butterfly keyboard, is it possible to swap with magic keyboard ?
2. The Mac book 12 would be cheap, this will create a problem in the product lineup because Apple want to sell IPads for user who want under 900 laptops.
the form factor was great (11" MB Air doesn't get enough love) but having 1 port on there was insane.
M1 with thinner bezels and notch for $999 would be the sweet spot.
Throw a M1 chip inside, add a borderless display, a Magic Keyboard more one port and a MagSafe. Call it MacBook SE and we’re done.
I still adore my 12" MacBook, as slow as it is. I just wish it had a second USB-C.
With all the confusing reviews online I think Apple is going the Boeing way
‘Designed by clowns…supervised by monkeys’
I love my 12 inch MacBook but the second they announce an apple silicon version im replacing it
Most definitely YES!
Release it in vivid iMac colours (orange, blue, red, green, black) and they’d sell like hot cakes.
My 2003 12-inch PowerBook was my favourite Apple laptop.
The 11-inch MacBook Air was okay, but I never warmed to the elephant-sized bezels and wedge-shape.
If Apple can put an M1 in a 9.7-inch iPad Pro, they can put it in a 12-inch MacBook.
I do see space in the line up for 12” MacBook when we have the 12.9” iPad Prok
The 12” was interesting because if you spent A LOT extra on the upgraded processor (m7), it was much better. It was just so expensive.
I would choose a 12" anyday over the standard 13"!