The BEST are PRESSURED to Heal Fast
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Ineos treated Bernal very well with his recovery time after he crashed even though he was their top rider at the time.
Yes. I never understood some of the races they put Egan into when he started back racing though. Seemed a bit stressful and meaningless to have him racing up north when he could have been racing somewhere else more calm. 🤔🦋👊
.."I believe Lance had 7..". "although there is some controversy.." Love it.
my controversial note about this would be that i think that Greg Lemond should have had 5-7 Tour wins, two reason why he didnt were that he got shot and lost 2 years and the second was that after his last win the EPO era had started. Indurain was also mentioned in the video, but its generally known that he won all 5 because of EPO too and he was actually the reason Armstrong started EPO, because when Lance got back from his cancer treatments ppl like Indurain (who used to be on par or even less good than Armstrong before) all of a sudden passed him in TTs like Armstrong was standing still. thats when armstrong learned about EPO and later ofcourse started his win run. so maybe Lemond should be considerred the best grand tour cyclist the USA has ever had (imo at least haha).
Couldn't agree more with this and Chris's comment.
Great comment from Chris. Loved it, too. Also couldn’t agree more.
Armstrong was the best of his era. As he said he arrived in Europe for a knife fight and found all the top guys had guns. It was get a gun or go back to the USA. He chose to enter the gun fight and so would 90% of you guys out there in the same position
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Ugh, the thumbnail of Wout is still heartbreaking. I can hear him wailing every time I see that.
That was scaring. 😳😱🦋
Fenders are God's gift to winter training in the Pacific Northwest. I can't ride without them when the ground is wet. With fenders, good shoe covers, gloves, etc. - I don't even know it's raining!! It makes me feel that I'm invincible!!!
Exactly the way it feels to me too. 👊🦋💪🌨️
And all the weight weenies in PNW don't account for wet clothing weight ;-)
Chris Horner, you’re top notch, I like your commentaries always.
Thanks 👊🦋
This is turning into a channel about clothing and injuries :-) ....but still interresting stuff
The weather decided that for us. 🌨️🦋👊
Maybe this tour is the perfect opportunity for Roglic to win the tour
He looked great at Basque country 🦋💪
Dont forget there is Pogacar around the corner. But Roglic is my favourite rider.
I have that same antique rear fender. Simple but effective.
All you need to do is cover the tire some 👊🦋
Great to see professional sport is now clean since the Armstrong fiasco.
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Looks good out there 👀👊🦋
it is not and never will be clean. the drugs are way ahead of the testing. they have this stuff down to a science now. yes genetics, insane training, nutrition, recovery, good luck etc but don't kid yourself if you think any endurance athlete that consistently wins is clean. this isn't just in regards to endurance sports either.
@unclespliff_productions don't dope don't cope. Don't take it won't make it. Winners get paid winners get laid.
Fender defender !
Garrett, that outro is fire! 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks, Chris, and I think fenders should be mandatory in the rain in races, why not, it would set a good example for fans and it would be a bit safer for riders. Maybe panniers, too, for snacks and gear, even swag for roadside fans. Goofing about that but fenders in inclement weather, yes. And other safety improvements could be implemented and I'd be all for all of it. And as for the Tour, with all of these terribly distressing injuries in the peloton, I have ceased with any of my own expectations or predictions. I'll simply enjoy watching each stage and I will take it day by day and that's how I used to follow it all when I depended on the newspaper for stage results the next day. Or a brief recap on BBC on my boombox with shortwave radio bands. 😀
Day by day is all we can do. 👊🦋🤞
Every time I watch your videos Chris it reminds me of eating apple pie in Julian. Keep up the good work.
Great pie stop w Cycling Camp San Diego in ’15!
Apple pie 🥧 😋🦋👊
Fender is also a plus for your teammates riding behind you!
Yep, not just for keeping dryer and cleaner, but for all the talk about getting sick, riders would do well reducing the amount of literal crap they're inhaling from the road spray.
Very much so. 👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling "Always keep your teammates happy" should be another Horner-ism. Folks who wear glasses, as I do, are much happier if they can see where they are going.
10:25 some controversy about Lance’s TDF victories. Almost fell off the home trainer 😂
I was thinking, how do I put this. 😂🦋👊
Mudguard in a form of "Ass Saver" is one of the best things I ever bought for my bike.
Me too 👊🦋
Looking forward to tomorrow and the coverage afterwards!
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Thats an SKS fender from Germany. I have the exact same one. Clamps easily to seatpost, and adjustable. Cheers.
Love the fact that you include Lance Armstrong in your talks. So many just ignore & make like he never existed.
Great stuff, sir. Thank you. Def want a full Jonas recovery. And a Tadej victory at LBL.
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How much pressure are all these guys under to make it to the Tour De France? How much control do doctors have to prevent them from starting too early? I'm just thinking about Julian Alaphilippe racing with a cracked knee cap.
The team doctor pulled me from the 2011 TdF when I crashed but, ever one saw the video so there was no choice. 🤔🦋
That there is a quality fender...got the same one in my garage out back. And it's older than what you said. Great episode today!
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You are best of best Chris
Especially when tell us your stories in the past
Comedy gold about the fenders 😂
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Thanks Chris and Garrett!!!
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...or mudguards if you're from the UK
Right. You guys got whole other words for it over there, or did we change the word. 🤔😂🦋👊
A lot do not use fenders as it removes another excuse of not having to go out in the rain :).
Like a fine Sangiovese, the quality & flavor of Beyond the Coverage just keeps getting better over time. Solid work C. Horner 👊
Thanks Chris ...yeah , man ! I got an Asssavers Winwing baby !! Papillon .
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I love Jay Vine, i remember even before he was in Nero Continental and he won a local Australian gran fondo.
Yes, fenders, for many a thing of the past!
I'm a big fan of you from Brazil! I love to hear your comments and histories.
Thanks 👊🦋
to be honest, and i think this is the case for how Wout van Aert thinks about this, he would rather win the olympics this year than a stage win in the tour de france. for ppl like Vingegaard, Pogacar and Roglic you are right, for them winning the GC (not one stage) in the TdF is more important than the olympics. but who knows im wrong and Wout does prefer a stage win or a green jersey versus gold in the olympics, but guess only Wout can tell us that. but i do think he will need the Tour to get the racing rythm, he wanted to get that rythm in the Giro, but he cant ride that now.
I would agree with you here. I would take the Olympics over one stage at the TdF but I would take it over three weeks of racing at Wout’s normal level there, especially if he is 100% and given free rein during 2024. Yikes, he could win five stages and take green. 🤔🦋💪😱🥇
@@ChrisHornerCycling yes i do think he could do that for sure, specially if Vingegaard is not there to defend his title. and riding a good tour de france won hurt his chances for the olympic title anyway i think.
Fender fan, here! Thanks, dude!
One "advantage" to having serious injuries early in the season is that the body isn't worn out from a season of racing and may have a more effective immune system so able to heal faster and more completely. That is of course if they are allowed the time to heal or don't personally put pressure on themselves to come back too fast.
I put finders in on rainy days. I hate my ass and shame getting all wet . I do hope Jonas makes it back and gives it a shot. Great job Chris! Thanks for all the hard work you put into keeping us up on everything. 🤜🤛👍
And the fender keeps your clothes a bit cleaner. 👊🦋
Watching from the top of Mount bachelor
Ski day 👊🦋
I watched you ride at the tour of Utah, I wish they still had that race;I live in Utah. We have challenging climbs here.
Chris Horner pitches his Butterfly Band-Aid: "The BEST are PRESSURED to Heal Fast"
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I'm 🤞🤞🤞🤞 that there's no TdF "Curse of Stage 2" this year (my favorite example was the TdF stage 23(?) years ago, where they did a "low tide only" road that dropped most of the riders).
The first week at the TdF always seems to get someone from the favorites. 😱🦋🤞
Hey, you can hold up 3 fingers again... speaking of healing!
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The finger doesn’t go straight yet and is still swollen but I will take it. 😂🦋🖐️👊
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Hope Vine and the others fully heal. Looking forward to seeing them compete, Tour &/or Vuelta.
Why isn't the team classification a bigger thing?
People still do that 1st thing? Damn man
The team classification is a big pain because no one cares but the sponsor of the team (they get a picture of team in the podium later) but it takes so much work that the riders can not race for any else and no one remembers which team won the team classification. Twice we won team classification at the TdF with RadioShack and the trophy was 2 inch’s tall. 🤪🦋🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Tadej got 2 weeks on the road training in 2013 before the Tour
He certainly didn’t get much. Let’s hope Jonas gets a few more weeks. 🤞🦋👊
"Put a fender on it" 👍
Hey Chris love the pod!!! thanks for comment about Lance Respect!
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The MVdP vs TP battle will be even more legendary than Po vs Tai Lung!
Let’s hope so 🤞🦋
Good call. I always find it weird when it's a wet club ride and I'm the only one with guards on...which then does help too much as get showered by the others😂
Fender’s save yer kit, yer backside and yer spirit in foul Flahute conditions! Best advice I’ve heard in a long while! You da man CH!
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not wrong 😂😂😂❤❤❤
Chris were you ever a 100% protected rider in a grand tour? Was Merida ready to give you that privilege in TdF before that Italian tunnel?
With Lampre I was helping Rui. 2011 TdF I was given some freedom but crashed out and 2013 Vuelta I was one of four leaders when it started. The other GT’s I did I was helping others. Saunier Duval 2005 I was free to race how I wanted also 🤔🦋👍
What controversy over Lance's 7 Tour wins? Just ask the UCI...
Nice commentary, Chris. Your insights are so helpful . Where else can we get such accurate inside views of professional cycling? Keep on, bro!
Thanks 👊🦋
Hey Chris, if you have sometime, tell us the backstory about the one foot cover seen on your recent posting, Thanks!
Will do. That was a good stage. 🌨️🥶👊🦋
Chris, you stated ongoing lung problems from a punctured lung, didn't you have pulmonary embolism's as well ?
"Weight training" with fender(s) ought to be a no-brainer? Does anyone throw a 1kg or 1lb weight on their bike, then remove it for racing? Maybe I'll patent something... 😮😂😂
I mean this with ❤❤ but; did Chris ever reconcile his admonition during the Tour of Catalonia, about GC riders needing to be "at the front" only days before that horrid crash into the culvert decimated our dream Tour summer? While obviously it is good advice "in general" ~ I'm just curious about the timing between statement(s) and that result?
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I would never say ride at the back. It’s crazier back there. Some riders like to ride with heavier wheels. But I think that’s ridiculous. 🤪🦋👊
@ChrisHornerCycling
Truly... and we saw that today, in L-B-L, with those two pile-ups not very far apart...
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Yes I almost lost my legs to a truck and it's a mountain to climb truth be told
Right. It’s hard to get back to the top. 🤞🦋💪
@@ChrisHornerCycling yes friends I still push the Scott out into midstream daily ✌️
Exemplary dissection of the idiosyncracies of recovery from injury
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Ain’t no way Chris just said that Lance has 7 wins 😂 come on dude cheated wins got removed.
Yep, yes he did! Thought no one had noticed.. amazing how the story is "forgotten" by some teammates. One of the best portuguese riders back in the days, José Azevedo, big lieutenant, at the moment best commentator from portuguese Eurosport, keeps avoiding talking about the subject. Maybe its true they were all on the juice and then its acceptable. Maybe they know something and today they are too and they keep on deceive us all.
Ok. We will give it to two second place then. Oh wait, no one did that either. I am just saying that it gets very complicated and is not as simple as handing it over to second place either. But as I had in the video, i get why others don’t believe the same as me. 🤔🦋👊
lol do it’s only cheating when they get caught? You cannot race at this level without some form of enhancement. Once you accept and embrace that, enjoy it for the entertainment it is.
Chris, do you do live subscriber-only commentary? I'd pay to watch bike races you commentate so that I don't to listen to Bob Roll.
I would love to do live also but it’s only me and Garrett working and live would take more then two guys. You need at least two for live and then some staff. One staff just to bring in food occasionally. 😋🦋👊
We could vpn into Eurosport..just sayin'. you and Jenz could make a great team.
@@ChrisHornerCycling Christian just called Bob a knucklehead at 137km to go after passing the person wearing something silver/machine-like
2024, the year of "The Fender Effect"
I was wondering for the whole vid what that brown thing was...fender...it ruins the aesthetic on the bike so i'm one of those who'd rather get cold.
Jokes apart great analysis as always looking forward for LBL and later on the tour. As you said no one cares about olympics especially if you'r a baguette and hear about that EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. FOR. A. DAMN. ENTIRE. YEAR
Right. 👊🦋
Yes, but isn't there a difference between you having nearly two months of recovery before starting the Vuelta and Jonas having two months before starting Le Tour? Because he doesn't just have to win the Tour, he has to beat Tadej and Primoz and Remco! I wasn't paying attention to anything other than France when you won in Spain (sorry), so I don't know who your primary competition was, but I'm certain it wasn't anyone like Pogi.
Nibali was his primary competition
I beat Nibali (TdF winner, Spain winner, and Giro winner, monument winner and much more), Valverde (number one ranked rider in the world 🌎 3-5 times and Spain winner, podium every where else more or less), and Rodriguez who was the number one ranked rider in the world and podium in GT’s. I beat the best for sure. But more often they beat me in other races. But I am the oldest GT winner in the Galaxy (by almost six years) so no one has ever beaten me there. 🤪🦋👊💪🌎
@@ChrisHornerCycling Not to mention that, something I hadn't even thought about until now (which is insane), but we all know the science says CLEARLY that bones and organs and muscles repair and recover more slowly for those who are older, so that in and of itself could mean Jonas could easily come back in the same amount of time and be near peak performance. PLUS, doctors, nutritionists, training routines, equipment, and team employees are probably all much better now at all of this than they were when you won. Yes?
Hey.I watched Flèche Wallone. That race was the craziest one day race i have ever watched. My question is who the hell is the director sportif for UAE. I do not understand blowing up the race to bring back riders who had no chance to win. Then they blow themselves up. All that talent on that team and not one made it to the line. Help me understand
This one needs a video to really explain it properly. If I find the window open I will put it together on video for you.👊🦋🪟
Chris, did you ever take anything? Honest question.
I posted every blood test the UCi took (there was too many to remember) during my Vuelta win and still it was argued with by people not believing it was clean and there was nothing there. What happened in the 90’s and early 2000’s leaves no one completely clean and innocent but I sleep very good at night just as did then. 💤🛏️👊🦋
Some day I need to do a video though. 🦋👊
A simple fender is sooooo much worth it on wet roads. A no brainer.
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Mr. Chris you are so Wonderful I only wish we had men like you where I ride you are honest, smart , honest .. you are great I would love to meet you, your assessments are so spot on!!!
Thanks 👊🦋
For sure Visma Lease A Bike is regreting now for letting Primoz Roglic leave the team.
Jay vines wife also pregnant with their first child
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Agreed, Chris does an insightful analysis, just find his voice …unappealing. Maybe so this in front of a closet or a cloth/wool wall hanging.
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I like the fender advise! Nothing more disgusting than get my butt wet and a skunk stripe jersy ;-) As a sub average roadie I hate to ride behind a weight wheenie without a fender and getting the the road dirt from his back wheel on my glasses, face, lips and teeths.
Right. I get no fender during the race because of the problems it may add if it moves or you flat or possibly you just want to look better in the photos (🤪) but in training it’s pure insanity not to use one. Yet every team ride I did barely any one had one on their bike. Except me 😜😜👊
I'm waiting for the UCI to mandate recumbent trikes with mud gaurds when it rains.
Pressure doesn't speed healing. Perhaps pressured to resume racing, even if not fully recovered.
Personally I wanted back in as soon as possible. Missing racing was never my thing when I could be at a big event. Let’s hope all heal up fast. 😳🦋🤞👊
I would disagree, pressure definitely speeds healing also the pressure you put on yourself. But maybe you have to have been in pro sports to understand.
@ardnax Biology doesn't care if the body is a professional athlete or not. If you weren't an idiot, you'd understand. So go "pressure" a bone to heal, go ahead, science will wait.
I gained 2 lbs. just hearing you being afraid that Jonas might gain some weight. LOL
3rd
Podium again 👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Feels like everybody is injured other than Mvdp and Pogi. Races are pretty boring when you dont see even the top 5 best riders even competing who can win that race
Can't remember the last time I saw 5 riders in an actual competitive position for gc
@@DDai-qd8ukif The Pog gets injured, then you'll see it at the Giro and the Tour
How’s it boring?
Except Amstel. 🦋🔥👊
Chris have you ever seen a rider of Jonas’s level get hurt this bad and return to the same form?
Greg Lemond
@@rafaelfranco7041and he did it all natty, even the healing 😂😂😂
@@rafaelfranco7041 GL was never as good post being gunshot as he was pre-gunshot. Marco Pantani is perhaps a better example.
Bernal.
Maybe remco
HAHA put a fender on it...indeed. Why wouldn't you on wet pavement while training? Wet mud crack is real.
I'm in London mine stays on September-April😂
And the clothes are twice as hard to get clean. 🧼 🤪🦋👊🌨️
I still think the TdF winner(s) should get a Yellow Jersey for the year, and then bands on the arm, just like the world champ.
Sure 🦋👊
maybe he gets a mini lion to strap to his saddle 🙂
The best have access....
LOL why aren't these guys using a fender??? LOL!!!
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I'm not as sure about Lance Armstrong. For sure, human justice is very imperfect!, but defending Armstrong seems too complicated. Maybe you're wearing protecting glasses from one of those special kind?
Yeah no about the guy from Texas.
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Drugs
Chris love you but Armstrong won NO TDF races. Doping does not level the playing field 100 million dollars stolen Chris. Please don’t continue with this. You i forgive. NOT him.
Why didn’t they name the second place as winner then? Or the third? 🤔
I knew it was going to be a rough topic but how do you do video about multiple wins at the TdF and leave Lance out. You just can’t if you want to be taken seriously. But I understand the other side of it also. 👊🦋
All his peers were on the juice though. Not saying it's ok but you can safely assume the whole GC top 10 in every gran tour was full of 💉💊
Definitely Lance Armstrong was the best and still is the best cyclist because almost every cyclists doped at that time. 😂😂👍👍