This guy does this all the time. He uses images and videos that frequently have nothing whatsoever to do with the narrative. It's extreme laziness I think.
Click bait as always lately…sad but unsubscribing even though I’m not subscribed….the dark channels are amazing though and dark skies is my fav but they all rock❤
Hmm the Ukrainians spring counter offensive comes to mind . June 4 2023 to current (aust 26 23) 43k casualties , hundreds of APCs, humvees mraps tanks,ect destroyed, Yet the Russians first line of defense has not been even reached,let alone broken, brigade after brigade committed, now Zelinsky speaks of full mobilization Again to replenish the massive losses. Whispers of a Russian Offensive in the next month or so soon. What will happen, how will this comment age
@@Michael-gp3qo Nonsense, there are no 43k casualties and the Russian line of defense was crossed already you can see challenger tanks pushing dragon teeth out of the way, that is the collapse of a front line.
That and they literally attempted to fight on two fronts. At which point on of those split into two more. It’s like whoever had a hand in that op wanted it to fail but could just say no we’ll stop. If they had focused on one thing the world today would look a lot different.
Read some books with references, the nazi’s helped facilitate the purges by claiming there were spies in the soviets midst for years they sent documents…bull of course by did great effects… frick even good ol’ Merica believed the nazi’s were making Germany great again (sound familiar) nuts and put Hitler on time cover and many turned away the Jew boatloads with smiles and waving bye bye….terrible but we have our cares and worries, imagined or real. The worlds a twisted place and yours.
If history has taught one thing, there is no more determined foe, no more motivated adversary, no greater fighting force than those protecting their homeland from invasion. Proceed to your own Peril.
The first 4 Guards units at the division level of the USSR WWII era were created by this battle. ///////////////// The Yelnya Offensive is also associated with the creation of the veteran Guards units when the 100th and 127th gh Divisions were renamed into the 1st and 2nd Guards Rifle Divisions. On 26 September 1941, the 107th and 120th Rifle Divisions were also renamed the 5th and 6th Guards Rifle Divisions. ///////////////// YT strictly prohibits external links. But you can easily get the above info through Google.
The decision to move south instead of Moscow makes perfect sense because Hitler knew that the soviets can be defeated by only depriving them of resources like Caucausus oil. You take the oil the russian tanks and other mechanized forces can no longer move.
Right! 80% of Russia's fuel moved up the Volga river into central Russia. And the Wehrmacht needed that fuel for their Panzers. Hitler was ahead of his Generals in strategic thinking. Napoleon captured Moscow in 1812 and the Russians burned it.
At that time Sankt-Petersburg was the capital of imperial Russia which many people don't know. Moscow became the capital when Soviet Union was created.
You underestimate Stalin's character. He would have fought to the bitter end even if Moscow was captured. The russians can only be defeated by taking economic targets and not political ones. Russia is not France. What goes on european chessboard doesn't work asian goboard as TIKhistory said. Hitler had a strategic mindset while his generals were thinkig tactically.
5:42... "the 29th motorized Inf Div. under Brigadier General.... erm.. There was NEVER a eank of Brigadier General in Germany until 1955 in the Bundeswehr. Until 1945 there was the Oberst ( Colonel ) and then the Generalmajor (Maj General). Please avoid those mistakes
RIP to everyone who fought. German soldiers were cynically used by Hitler. Many fought bravely, died or were wounded doing their duty. Thousands never saw home or their loved ones ever again. Of the 90,000 German prisoners taken at Stalingrad, over half died in under 6mths and only 5000 EVER returned to Germany EVER again. They suffered, too. The whole war was a humanitarian tragedy.
0:20 "The three independent Baltic countries - Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania - were invaded and occupied in June 1940 by the Soviet Union, under the leadership of Stalin and auspices of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that had been signed between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in August 1939, immediately before the outbreak of World War II.[1][2] The three countries were then annexed into the Soviet Union (formally as "constituent republics") in August 1940. The United States and most other Western countries never recognised this incorporation, considering it illegal.[3][4] On 22 June 1941, Nazi Germany attacked the Soviet Union and within weeks occupied the Baltic territories. In July 1941, the Third Reich incorporated the Baltic territory into its Reichskommissariat Ostland. As a result of the Red Army's Baltic Offensive of 1944, the Soviet Union recaptured most of the Baltic states and trapped the remaining German forces in the Courland Pocket until their formal surrender in May 1945.[5] During the 1944-1991 Soviet occupation large numbers of people from Russia and other parts of the former USSR were settled in the three Baltic countries, while the local languages, religion and customs were suppressed.[6] David Chioni Moore classified it as a "reverse-cultural colonization", where the colonized perceived the colonizers as culturally inferior.[7] Colonization of the three Baltic countries was closely tied to mass executions, deportations and repression of the native population. During both Soviet occupations (1940-1941; 1944-1991) a combined 605,000 inhabitants of the three countries were either killed or deported (135,000 Estonians, 170,000 Latvians and 320,000 Lithuanians), while their properties and personal belongings, along with ones who fled the country, were confiscated and given to the arriving colonists - Soviet military and NKVD personnel, as well as functionaries of the Communist Party and economic migrants."
I thoroughly enjoy all the Dark Docs videos. The use of clickbait tactics is completely unnecessary, very annoying, and most of all insulting. Please don't do that. You're better than that. Stop it.
@randommadness1021 The main Soviet Superspy was 'Asche'....a source within OKW or widely believed to be Martin Bormann. Plus which, Britain gave Stalin intelligence from Enigma and Ultra ahead of Kursk.
@ianjarrett2724 Martin Boremans intelligence really only came into significance during the cold War did it not? I wasn't aware that he had anything at all to do with Lucy. The point I was making was how would the Russians fared without Lucy? Of course we will never know, but the certainly would have lost a lot more battles. Martin Boreman was brilliant for the Soviets after the war, there is no doubting that, but I'm not quite sure what the point you're trying to make is...? The question I have put forward is, would the Soviets ever recovered without Lucy? I think it is highly doubtful.
@randommadness1021 The Soviets were advised by Britain through Enigma Intelligence in 1941 BEFORE Barbarossa that Hitler was going to invade..he chose to ignore it. Enigma decrypts together with material from the Soviet superspy within the OKW, gave the Stavka full access to German order of battle, plans and tactics at Kursk before a shot was fired. My point was that The Lucy ring was far from the only intelligence the Soviets received to support their battle with The Nazis on the Eastern Front in the critical period 1941-43.
Growing up is realising without lendlease none of the allied forces would have recovered from the stunning German victory’s on both fronts (Dunkirk) (collapse of Russians entire western frontier)
@@duanepigden1337 It was a European war. We had no defensive treaty with any European power. And From Sept 39 to June 22, 1941 the Soviets left the French and British on their own while they continued supplying the Germans. Bet they were making money.
Stalin soon found out to move his Weapons Factories out of reach from the Germans and made new and Industrially efficient Factories to the east, with some help from American Industrial Experts. So he outproduced even the Americans with rough, but efficient new tanks, with interchangeable spares even from several factories.
I find the hypothesis compelling, that the southern priority was driven by Germany's desperate need for oil; reserves totalling only a few months. That started to draw away reserves from the Moscow axis much later than the need to secure the huge pocket at Kiev (19/7/1941: Directive 33) but must have been in mind from the start.
The German offensive in Russia was a disorganized mess from the get-go. Generals in the OKH were constantly tweaking Hitler's order to align with their own priorities. In fact, Hitler thought that taking Moscow would be useless and instead wanted to move north to take Lenningrad and cut off the Allies' supply routes into Russia. He also wanted a simultaneous thrust to the south to cut off Russian oil from the Caucuses. These were strategic moves that, if strictly followed may have weakened Russia to a point where they could only defend and not counterattack on a broad front. Unfortunately for Hitler (and the German Army), the Staff generals in OKH were myopically focused on Moscow and this greatly diluted efforts in the north and south. Bad for German - Good for Russia (and the world).
Read vampire economy…Germany would have economically collapsed …they were the worst economically isolated, nearly bankrupted society…..I’m German and they were not Germans in their management style lol….
Its not click bait its just clever. Anyone who watches these videos knows there was never a "massive meat grinder" as an actual weapon. Why must we find something to be pissy about at every fucking chance. Just watch the videos or dont but do not act like You were fooled by what you got with Dark Docs.
It always amazes and bewilders me that the old Russian WW2 vets are so gung ho about russia, & "for mother russia this" & "for mother russia that" when the russian entity gave 0 shits about the russian people/soldiers. Literally sending them to their deaths in human wave attacks that were so obviously futile just baffles my mind how anyone could be proudly repping that same entity. 🤦🏼♂️ And really nothing has changed as far as modern day russia, just look at the war in Ukraine currently, their troops dont even have night vision let alone food! Never mind all the secret police at home and the gulags for petty shit but I digress.
@@keres666 What? Russia is going after Ukraine. Ukraine has about A HUNDRED Nazi emblems on their tanks, war patches, helmets etc. So what are you talking about?
@@ClickClack_Bam I mean dont look into the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact too hard you might get a blood clot... Russia are OBVIOUSLY the good guys in 2023 and totally not acting like Nazis themselves.
Sad to see minesweeper picture only used as clickbait and did not appear anywhere in the video.
@@meenis🤣👍🏼
This guy does this all the time. He uses images and videos that frequently have nothing whatsoever to do with the narrative. It's extreme laziness I think.
@@georgejackson4105He's got 1+ million subs.
But it is lazy
Click bait as always lately…sad but unsubscribing even though I’m not subscribed….the dark channels are amazing though and dark skies is my fav but they all rock❤
Click bait…
3 million German soldiers coming straight for you.....absolutely astounding!
And to be repelled and denied.
The numbers are just mind blowing.
Hmm the Ukrainians spring counter offensive comes to mind . June 4 2023 to current (aust 26 23) 43k casualties , hundreds of APCs, humvees mraps tanks,ect destroyed, Yet the Russians first line of defense has not been even reached,let alone broken, brigade after brigade committed, now Zelinsky speaks of full mobilization Again to replenish the massive losses. Whispers of a Russian Offensive in the next month or so soon. What will happen, how will this comment age
3 million? Really?
@@SeanHogan_frijole it’s what the video said
I don’t know I didn’t research it
@@Michael-gp3qo Russia is kicking the dogshit out of Ukraine.
That’s the long and short of it.
@@Michael-gp3qo Nonsense, there are no 43k casualties and the Russian line of defense was crossed already you can see challenger tanks pushing dragon teeth out of the way, that is the collapse of a front line.
Excellent. History forgotten is History repeated until utter destruction.
Who wants THAT ?
Imagine if clickbait never happened
What’s the click bait? The battle was a meat grinder.
LOL
Don't click bate bud. No need. You have cracking videos
Reported for misleading. You dont need to clickbait your viewers. Your content is good enough, it doesn't require clickbaiting.
Yeah this is what happens when you purge your army of its best and brightest because you think they might be a threat to your power.
That and they literally attempted to fight on two fronts. At which point on of those split into two more. It’s like whoever had a hand in that op wanted it to fail but could just say no we’ll stop. If they had focused on one thing the world today would look a lot different.
And of course we have perfect foresight and we know for a fact that allowing them to live woulda been better? 😒bruh use your brains
Read some books with references, the nazi’s helped facilitate the purges by claiming there were spies in the soviets midst for years they sent documents…bull of course by did great effects… frick even good ol’ Merica believed the nazi’s were making Germany great again (sound familiar) nuts and put Hitler on time cover and many turned away the Jew boatloads with smiles and waving bye bye….terrible but we have our cares and worries, imagined or real. The worlds a twisted place and yours.
I'm glad that can't happen here. 😬
..... snd still the unlimited power of the Russian steamroller and millions of soldiers available by 1945 over Germany
If history has taught one thing, there is no more determined foe, no more motivated adversary, no greater fighting force than those protecting their homeland from invasion. Proceed to your own Peril.
The first 4 Guards units at the division level of the USSR WWII era were created by this battle.
/////////////////
The Yelnya Offensive is also associated with the creation of the veteran Guards units when the 100th and 127th gh Divisions were renamed into the 1st and 2nd Guards Rifle Divisions. On 26 September 1941, the 107th and 120th Rifle Divisions were also renamed the 5th and 6th Guards Rifle Divisions.
/////////////////
YT strictly prohibits external links. But you can easily get the above info through Google.
The decision to move south instead of Moscow makes perfect sense because Hitler knew that the soviets can be defeated by only depriving them of resources like Caucausus oil. You take the oil the russian tanks and other mechanized forces can no longer move.
Right! 80% of Russia's fuel moved up the Volga river into central Russia. And the Wehrmacht needed that fuel for their Panzers. Hitler was ahead of his Generals in strategic thinking. Napoleon captured Moscow in 1812 and the Russians burned it.
At that time Sankt-Petersburg was the capital of imperial Russia which many people don't know. Moscow became the capital when Soviet Union was created.
Yes, but the psychological hammer-blow of losing Moscow...👎
You underestimate Stalin's character. He would have fought to the bitter end even if Moscow was captured. The russians can only be defeated by taking economic targets and not political ones. Russia is not France. What goes on european chessboard doesn't work asian goboard as TIKhistory said. Hitler had a strategic mindset while his generals were thinkig tactically.
Bro if Moscow got captured the capital would've most been moved to the nearest city which is Tula or even St Petersburg Russians would not surrender
5:42... "the 29th motorized Inf Div. under Brigadier General.... erm..
There was NEVER a eank of Brigadier General in Germany until 1955 in the Bundeswehr. Until 1945 there was the Oberst ( Colonel ) and then the Generalmajor (Maj General). Please avoid those mistakes
RIP to everyone who lost their lives fighting for their motherland ❤
RIP U.S
RIP to everyone who fought. German soldiers were cynically used by Hitler. Many fought bravely, died or were wounded doing their duty. Thousands never saw home or their loved ones ever again. Of the 90,000 German prisoners taken at Stalingrad, over half died in under 6mths and only 5000 EVER returned to Germany EVER again. They suffered, too. The whole war was a humanitarian tragedy.
@@ianjarrett2724 the german majority voted hitler to power, 90 percent of the youth attended his rallies. You reap what you sow.
0:20 "The three independent Baltic countries - Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania - were invaded and occupied in June 1940 by the Soviet Union, under the leadership of Stalin and auspices of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that had been signed between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in August 1939, immediately before the outbreak of World War II.[1][2] The three countries were then annexed into the Soviet Union (formally as "constituent republics") in August 1940. The United States and most other Western countries never recognised this incorporation, considering it illegal.[3][4] On 22 June 1941, Nazi Germany attacked the Soviet Union and within weeks occupied the Baltic territories. In July 1941, the Third Reich incorporated the Baltic territory into its Reichskommissariat Ostland. As a result of the Red Army's Baltic Offensive of 1944, the Soviet Union recaptured most of the Baltic states and trapped the remaining German forces in the Courland Pocket until their formal surrender in May 1945.[5]
During the 1944-1991 Soviet occupation large numbers of people from Russia and other parts of the former USSR were settled in the three Baltic countries, while the local languages, religion and customs were suppressed.[6] David Chioni Moore classified it as a "reverse-cultural colonization", where the colonized perceived the colonizers as culturally inferior.[7] Colonization of the three Baltic countries was closely tied to mass executions, deportations and repression of the native population. During both Soviet occupations (1940-1941; 1944-1991) a combined 605,000 inhabitants of the three countries were either killed or deported (135,000 Estonians, 170,000 Latvians and 320,000 Lithuanians), while their properties and personal belongings, along with ones who fled the country, were confiscated and given to the arriving colonists - Soviet military and NKVD personnel, as well as functionaries of the Communist Party and economic migrants."
One does not read about that very often. Thank you for edifying everyone.
I thoroughly enjoy all the Dark Docs videos. The use of clickbait tactics is completely unnecessary, very annoying, and most of all insulting. Please don't do that. You're better than that. Stop it.
Cry a river 😂
Let the man make his living and stfu
Agreed.
What clickbait tactics? I’m confused
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@@johnzeetee6747 Where’s the tank with the minesweeper extension? That’s what I came here for…
Great video! A quick tactical map here and there would really help :)
Is there a movie of this battle .
If I ever got meat grinder I’d be like “ouch! Stop it, please! Enough is enough!” And hopefully my meats stop being grinded shortly thereafter.
I got this and seriously laughed! 👍
meat grinder that walks and talks? = get a lady
Thank you for sharing
🤗🙏🇺🇲🏆
I enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Imagine a day when we’re all friends again
Wishful thinking I agree but will never happen. Men hate men is like the air we breath.
@@barryrammer7906The United States military industrial complex will make sure the men of the world 🌎 will always remain fighting.
@@barryrammer7906- Not true.
That would be great, Russian people have a unique perspective that we Americans like. Your leader though… Putin is evil.
@@Erin-Thor I hope your right and I'm wrong.
Great work.
The Axis got a "smashing" off Stalin. In 2 years bitter fighting on the Eastern front, he proved himself to be Axis Smasher number 1.
What would've happened without Lucy?
@randommadness1021 The main Soviet Superspy was 'Asche'....a source within OKW or widely believed to be Martin Bormann. Plus which, Britain gave Stalin intelligence from Enigma and Ultra ahead of Kursk.
@ianjarrett2724 Martin Boremans intelligence really only came into significance during the cold War did it not? I wasn't aware that he had anything at all to do with Lucy.
The point I was making was how would the Russians fared without Lucy? Of course we will never know, but the certainly would have lost a lot more battles.
Martin Boreman was brilliant for the Soviets after the war, there is no doubting that, but I'm not quite sure what the point you're trying to make is...?
The question I have put forward is, would the Soviets ever recovered without Lucy? I think it is highly doubtful.
@randommadness1021 The Soviets were advised by Britain through Enigma Intelligence in 1941 BEFORE Barbarossa that Hitler was going to invade..he chose to ignore it. Enigma decrypts together with material from the Soviet superspy within the OKW, gave the Stavka full access to German order of battle, plans and tactics at Kursk before a shot was fired. My point was that The Lucy ring was far from the only intelligence the Soviets received to support their battle with The Nazis on the Eastern Front in the critical period 1941-43.
Riga and Vilnius were actually rejoicing at the German liberation.
You need to get some new film footage if possible as we have seen most of these numerous times
I love your intro animation
That was a human being that went flying out of that tank in the intro!!!!!
Growing up is realising without lendlease none of the allied forces would have recovered from the stunning German victory’s on both fronts (Dunkirk) (collapse of Russians entire western frontier)
Very true. USA stayed out of the war and made money.
@@duanepigden1337 made money? The U.S. gave the Soviets billions in no interest loans.. does that sound like a money grab to you?
@@SJstackinbodys -- yes they got paid back and in the mean time USA employment rose as weapons were made.
@@duanepigden1337 the Soviets never repaid all the money the owed.
@@duanepigden1337 It was a European war. We had no defensive treaty with any European power. And From Sept 39 to June 22, 1941 the Soviets left the French and British on their own while they continued supplying the Germans. Bet they were making money.
Stalin soon found out to move his Weapons Factories out of reach from the Germans and made new and Industrially efficient Factories to the east, with some help from American Industrial Experts. So he outproduced even the Americans with rough, but efficient new tanks, with interchangeable spares even from several factories.
I agree on the clickbait.
I find the hypothesis compelling, that the southern priority was driven by Germany's desperate need for oil; reserves totalling only a few months. That started to draw away reserves from the Moscow axis much later than the need to secure the huge pocket at Kiev (19/7/1941: Directive 33) but must have been in mind from the start.
The German offensive in Russia was a disorganized mess from the get-go. Generals in the OKH were constantly tweaking Hitler's order to align with their own priorities. In fact, Hitler thought that taking Moscow would be useless and instead wanted to move north to take Lenningrad and cut off the Allies' supply routes into Russia. He also wanted a simultaneous thrust to the south to cut off Russian oil from the Caucuses. These were strategic moves that, if strictly followed may have weakened Russia to a point where they could only defend and not counterattack on a broad front. Unfortunately for Hitler (and the German Army), the Staff generals in OKH were myopically focused on Moscow and this greatly diluted efforts in the north and south. Bad for German - Good for Russia (and the world).
The Allies should have never given so much to Russia. Malta was a disaster .
Imagine if Barbarossa never happened
Germany would have won the war.
Read vampire economy…Germany would have economically collapsed …they were the worst economically isolated, nearly bankrupted society…..I’m German and they were not Germans in their management style lol….
USSR would have defeated Europe.
@@Fevebblefester
And Communism disappeared from the earth. Humans would have had no need to go through the Cold War.
@@FevebblefesterAnd Trump would have still lost the election.
Fascism is a losers endeavor
Stalin certainly didn't react "swiftly" to the invasion.
👏👏👏
Theyre actually all on the same team.
First? Second? Woo!
join us
Hmmm Meat Grinder Image. No actual tank. Click Bait trick. good article poor choice of wording
Once dark docs didn’t need click bait…. Getting worse
Brest and Grodno were Polish cities at that time under Soviet Union occupation in 1941
Its not click bait its just clever. Anyone who watches these videos knows there was never a "massive meat grinder" as an actual weapon. Why must we find something to be pissy about at every fucking chance. Just watch the videos or dont but do not act like You were fooled by what you got with Dark Docs.
Yeah, don't start doing clickbait, the minesweeper was not in the video.
It always amazes and bewilders me that the old Russian WW2 vets are so gung ho about russia, & "for mother russia this" & "for mother russia that" when the russian entity gave 0 shits about the russian people/soldiers. Literally sending them to their deaths in human wave attacks that were so obviously futile just baffles my mind how anyone could be proudly repping that same entity. 🤦🏼♂️
And really nothing has changed as far as modern day russia, just look at the war in Ukraine currently, their troops dont even have night vision let alone food!
Never mind all the secret police at home and the gulags for petty shit but I digress.
western propaganda...as usual
you want something like this these days, isn't it?
Same old story. The Germans beat themselves as usual. No supplies no reinforcements. On and on. The story always the same.
I mean...ya it's called the past, the story is always the same 😂😅 not picking on you it just made me laugh 😂😅
@@Stationaryshade lol my friend I know have a great day.
Never watching your videos ever again due to click bait
Too loud music , had to stop watching half way
DON'T CALL TAHAT SWASTIKA🤬😡
Glory to Russia 🇷🇺💪
Massive Russian Meat Grinder...wait what century are we in again? 💙💛
Stop
Massive
Just tenderize the meat
in 2023, how the turntables...
Bakhmut is a much bigger meatgrinder
I can't stand all the crying about the click bait bullshit. If you don't like it don't watch and leave us that that love dark docs alone
Christ have the russians ever fought on the right side of a conflict ever?
You do realize they fought against the Germans in WW2 right?
As in the US & Russia were on the same side.
So what does your post mean?
@@ClickClack_Bam
Well guess if the Germans would have occupied Russia and then ceased the fighting what a world we would have lived in…
@@ClickClack_Bam You do realize that they liked the Nazis until the Nazis did the thing Russia is doing now, right?
@@keres666 What?
Russia is going after Ukraine.
Ukraine has about A HUNDRED Nazi emblems on their tanks, war patches, helmets etc.
So what are you talking about?
@@ClickClack_Bam I mean dont look into the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact too hard you might get a blood clot...
Russia are OBVIOUSLY the good guys in 2023 and totally not acting like Nazis themselves.
Poor Ukraine 🇺🇦. Screwed over and over. 😢
WTF
more frikkin clickbait!
balls
CLICKBAIT
Second
IT WASN'T victory at ALL
Pity the Germans didn't win on the Eastern front
Stop playing up the Russians or are you pro Russian ?
Pro soviet, russia+ukraine vs nazi germans
Communists and Fascists' are like cousins that hate each other, but they're still related
no relation....they are both extremists , left vs right
@@karantikoo9302 they are both extremists , thank you for validating my statement
DON'T CALL TAHAT SWASTIKA🤬😡
DON'T CALL TAHAT SWASTIKA🤬😡
DON'T CALL TAHAT SWASTIKA🤬😡