What Makes This a Good Pad (and a Bad One)? Decathlon Forclaz Air Short Trek 700 Sleeping Pad Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2021
- In this Episode of TOGR, Luke is reviewing a half Pad from Decathlon;
Why is the Forclaz Air Short Trek 700 sleeping pad so good?
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Decathlon Forclaz Air Short Trek 700 Sleeping Pad Review
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Price : $45
Weight : 13.3 oz with the storage bag
Materials :
Thermoplastic polyurethane and polyester
Measurements :
Inflated : 47.2” x 20.5” x 2.2”
Stored : 3.3” x 8.3”
Sizes : One only - no XL versions
Colors : Gray Only
R-Value : 1.6
Chambers : 8
Review Pros :
Lightweight
Small sizer pad which is great for summer use
Compact size
Good thickness - certainly keeps you off of the ground thanks to the chambers
Good quality - I’ve had no issues with leaking air
Excellent valves - two way and anti-return
Easy to inflate and to release air
Easy to adjust firmness
Comfortable - the chambers are thick enough to keep your body off of the ground. Firmness is adjustable so you can get the right level for you rather easily. Firm or soft while staying off of the ground.
While those are the pros, there is a con to mention and I speak of this in a moment.
Review Cons :
My biggest issue with the pad are the no slip silicone patches that are on top of this pad; if you are using a sleeping bag then it won’t be an issue and the pad is comfortable but if you are using a blanket or a quilt they may be.
For summer use, I tend to use a quilt or blanket and these pads pull my hair when I am tossing and turning. They will pull at your clothing making tossing and turning more of an experience than it really needs to be.
To me it is a bit weird that the pad has silicon patches on top instead of the bottom; falling off of a pad isn’t a problem with most pads but having a pad slip around is.
You can turn the pad over and that is what I do; but you will have the air valves next to your head; with a pillow I haven’t found this to be an issue and is a more comfortable way to use the pad.
What the company needs to think about here is that this a half mat, a short mat and these are used in warmer conditions and having those anti slip patches aren’t really needed.
Small storage bag - a little larger would make for easier rolling up of the pad and putting the pad in.
Advice : Throw away the storage bag, use it for something else; use a rubber band to keep it compressed when out on a trip. The bag is irritating to use and will require you to roll it tightly so that it fits.
Slightly loud when moving around
Summary :
I like half mats, short mats, and I like this pad for the money. The overall quality is very good, it offers good comfort for the money even though it could be better. Again, the silicon patches are a bit weird to me but turning the pad over does make them more useful.
Talking about use, I like half pads in warmer conditions and tend to stop using them once the temp goes below 50f.
This pad is good enough that I am interested in checking out the full size versions; for the money, they may be hard to beat. We will see about that soon enough.
Complaint : This has nothing to do with the pad itself and is more of a mentionable for Decathlon; work on your website and how products are presented when searching. When I went to their site to look at sleeping pads, I typed in Sleeping Pad and it brought up nothing but sleeping bags.
I typed in sleeping mat and it brought up tents.
I type in air mat and it brought up foam pads.
I then typed in air mattress and it finally brought up what i was looking for.
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I have the full length version of this. Being 192cm tall I wanted a long pad and also it’s wider than usual pads at a great price. Love the silicone bits that hold on to the floor, I run it upside down so no slip on the tent floor. It works better that way. I run it with a closed cell thin roll up pad with silver lining under it. Good for the UK as not any crazy cold temps. It’s one of the most comfy pads I sleep on and like you say even side sleeping it’s comfy. The bigger full size pad comes with a much better size bag. Decathlon in the UK and across Europe I have found to be good for cycling gear, clothes, gas canisters etc. A friend bought a tent and seems okay but not great. Having said that the 2 person dome tent is great for £45, it does have condensation issues, but it’s well sealed and would be good in stronger winds
Everything I have bought from Decathlon has worked out pretty well. They seem to be consistent at hitting that sweet spot of fairly priced, well designed and most importantly ‘built to last’ gear. I always start their when looking for outdoor gear
Decathlon is well known in Europe to have a good quality/price ratio, one of these companies that doesn't try to rip off their customers.
I still have a 10 liter backpack with hydration bladder from Decathlon, probably bought it in 1997, trained with it as crazy, cycling, montaineering, sky running, still works to this day!!
I really like Decathlon. They offer a good price for good quality equipment and clothing.
yeah, especially their Merino stuff
I have used it, since two years. And I'm absolutely agreed with Your opinion. It's very good pad, for spring to early autumn. I'm very surprising, that in US, they sell it, with repairing kit. In Poland, well, in times when I buyed it, they don't spoil Us with such luxurys.
No nonsense reviews, that's what I like about this channel.... straight talking !!!
Okay so my thermarest sleeping pad broke, during my hike of the GR34 and GR223. So I went to Declanthon to buy that sleeping pad, as a replacement. That one was leaking after just a few days. I went again to the Declanthon pretty good costumor service they gave me a new one. And that one held up just fine. Pretty okay things for the summer for an okay price!
I have the yellow full length version and for the price it's brilliant. Decathlon make some very good quality stuff for the price, their MH500 waterproof jacket and insulated jacket being two brilliant products.
I ended up getting the full length because they were out of stock of this one, don't regret it. cheap enough that I don't have to stress too much and worry about damaging it
With all the pros and even the cons, I would consider this to be a great choice in buying a sleeping pad. With the low cost, great lift, and light weight you cannot go wrong. All the cons you listed can be easily fixed to remove them all together (the sticky patches on top you can flip the pad over or just put your sleeping back on top, the small bag you can use a rubber band like you said). Really, I would say this is worth getting.
I have not used a half mat before, but I am considering one. I may give this one a try. I am loving the Wenzel air mattress you did a video on previously. Your video prompted me to purchase one and I am extremely happy with it!
Hey Luke! Appreciate the review. As always, another informative production! Great looking pad however, I like my legs and heels to have support as well. I'm sure this would work great for a lot of folks but I'm a full pad kind of guy. Thanks again for your professional review. Love the journey my friend!
Hi Luke, as always, great review. I been using the very similar full length Forclaz Trek 700 Pad for a couple of years now, mostly on bikepacking and biketouring trips. I can highly recommend this product to anyone who is looking for a comfortable, lightweight and compact sleeping pad. About the silicone patches - I agree these have somewhat aggressive grip, but it is not the only problem. These patches do come off the pad very easily. A a matter of fact, every couple of nights I find one or two of these patches lying around on the tent flor. My pad lost about half of them already. But this really is my biggest complain about this product.
I slept on it during a 500km trek, it’s pretty comfortable and really lightweight. For the price I do recommend it.
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures and your family
Nice review! Can't wait to see the rest of the van trip footage! Hope all is well
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Never owned a half mat. I only use the Woods insulated Vevo air mattress...4.9 R value. Never had a problem with this mattress in -35c to -40c in Northern Ontario, Can.
Love decathlon it is my go to place for outdoor gear , so reasonable on price and is generally very good quality. I have a tent camping gear , walking ,running outdoor and even a sheath knife all good.
Thanks for the review
Good one Luke👍 Pros, cons and the reason for them. Weight is subjective depending on your comfort requirements... For me there is no compromise to comfort, I'll deal with the weight if it means getting up in the morning without hurting... This one, flip it and be done.
Thanks for another great review Luke. I'm very supportive of you checking out more Decathlon gear. They've started opening stores where I am in Montreal, and a lot of their gear is pretty unique and makes for a compelling value proposition. But there aren't enough people out there using and reviewing it for me to be confident is buying their stuff necessarily.
Check out Justin outdoors he's done a few videos on the topic :)
@@bruellaffenbaumd7159 Oh yes I'm keeping up with the work of my excitable canadian brother :)
Luke, the wife and I use these pads when car camping. we have one each. use the non slip side down and no slippage at all. I'd be tempted to use one in our tent too but haven't tried as yet. I also use our one in my hammock. Very comfy for me but I am skinny and 5'6" tall.
Well, we mostly buy swimming and general sports gear from Decathlon. Everything we got so far has worked out really well. We have one of their stores nearby, so we can take a look at everything. Also, it is designed in such a way that you can not only try on the clothing. But e.g. also their tents are set up at one spot so you can step in, you can lay on their sleeping pads there or you can try out their bicycles, etc. Makes the shopping experience much better IMO. Otherwise, in our experience great quality at a great price - you get a lot for your money.
Luke you should test Decathlon MH 100 two person tent it cost just 25 eur. It is definitely the best tent for that price.
I have the Forclaz 700 XL and have had no issues with it. Like you, I put the silicone pads face down to keep the pad from slipping around on the tent floor. I also like that the valves have different pull tabs on them, so you can operate them in the dark if necessary. My storage bag is big enough for the pad, even if rolled sloppy. Lucky?
Thank you for a GREAT review!! I prefer a full pad! Thanks again!🥰
I seen some folks who buy full pads and chop em in half and bond together with a iron. Seems kinda sketchy . Haha. Anything to save a few ounces though! I tried my friends chopped Xlite and was not for me. I found my bag would be a bit more damp just from being on my tent floor because of my regions dewy humid moist conditions. Will gladly stick with a full pad for a few onces more. To each their own.
They are a fun company though. I got the down puffer jacket on sale 2 years ago and it rocks. Also got some toe socks. They are pretty great to for the price. Always nice to see these new budget friendly and quality companies pop up on the scene and give the big boys a run for their money.. They sure are far and few between. So they got my vote! Thanks for the vid Luke. A pleasure as always!
Hey Luke, Thanks for the review, been looking to replace a "The Original" Therm-a-Rest pad that is still in very good shape, no leaks, Ever!. its full length? x 20 inches and has unknown thermal protection. I have gotten cold in 40 degree weather with a 40 degree synthetic bag. That's why I'm Looking. Getting old..er! and Im going to buy a wider, thicker pad with a better thermal protection. Looking Forward to a good nights sleep on the ground. I used a "half" length mat when I was in high school, it seemed okay at the time. It wasn't until I noticed other campers dragging nice big mats out of their tents, I decided to upgrade. lol
I do like them 3/4 length pads for certain trips. I do really like decathlon. The value to quality ratio is great.
Really interesting product, haven't seen this one before. Thanks for sharing Luke 👍
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I have the long version of this bag, which is ubiquitous in Europe, it's true that the anti-slippery patches would be better under the pad, an issue I solved by flipping it. The valves don't bother me that much because they are next to my head, i.e. under my pillow.
I never tried a short sleeping pad, because my area there're just a few nights warmer than 53°F/12°C ^^ But I updated my equipment this year and I bought nearly everything at Decathlon and I love this stuff. In the first place: it's very affordable, but the quality is also pretty well, and they have a very good range of products. And with the Forclaz Line, they now have a more trekking-oriented, more lightweight line. It costs a little bit more but it's affordable as well, much more than most of the back backing/trekking stuff I know :-)
well i am not a large person this pad would work for me just fine thanks for the review
The silicone grippers are the underside. They are designed to stop the pad from slipping around on the tent floor, they work very well indeed. I have used this pad for 2 straight years in Australia NSW. It is an amazing value pad for warmer conditions. Nice and wide for side foetal sleepers.
Love it. Would work great for the southwest
Thanks Luke 👊 Strength and Honor my friend 🇺🇲👍
hi, i have been using it for about a year.
It is especially perfect for use in a hammock, often the mattress goes on one side and the sleeping bag on the other. There with the silicone patches, the mattress will follow the movements of the sleeping bag. We derive a real benefit from it both thermal and comfort in a hammock, I have not yet tried it on the ground.
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Luke, i would recommend to check the dawn jacket from decathlon. Pretty darn good. :) for 45€ in the EU its a real bargain.
It’s been a while since I’ve used it but my summer mat, the Klymit Static V Recon, I swear it packs down smaller than that thing. Not sure about the weight but for me it’s great. Not fussed about noise, I use the X-Therm, I’m used to it.
bought this and paired it with the cheapest hammock they have, itworks wonders in the summer, and since it is only under your upper body it helps getting a flatter lay. I planned on just trying it and returning it, but i kept it for lighter weight trips. the two larger versions are perfect for the bushcraft hammock and tarp, which are of excellent value too - used that for years. I switched to the haven tent but it's really not worth it, if I could i'd go back and get the amok Draumr or a crossHammock.
It actually looks perfect, grip pads if you need em, flip it if you don’t. I’ve been looking for a short wide pad, and this checks a lot of boxes. Price, size, weight, and it sounds like quality is decent too.
I have the longer version of the Forclaz 700 and the quality is really good. Bought quite of few things from Decathlon over the years, from a cheap 2P tent to fleeces and rain jackets. Never been disappointed.
At 52 cm I don't consider it wide. at 6'1" I can get away with a 100 cm long pad, but it has to be 60 cm wide at least.
I like this mat. My 4 year old son uses it 😉
Decathlon have nice light weight tents. The 1 person trek is only 1.3 kg. My son uses it when we are in the north of Sweden hiking multi day trips.
I'd say the pad definitely fills a niche, so to each their own.
Would really like to see more decathlon stuff. Their prices aren't to bad but not many reviews on RUclips.
I love decathlon.
it's the perfect low cost, decent quality stepping stone to find out what you actually need/ expect from your gear.
After hiking/ camping with the decathlon gear it's easy to upgrade to a more "A-grade" brand without wasting your money, as you
know exactly what you want and what you don' t want.
Instead of investing a high budget from the start which one might regret in the long run....
Greetings from Belgium!
It's a Luke sized sleeping pad!!!! That thing fits you perfectly Brother. 😊
I actually just purchased their foam pad because the Gossamer Gear one is out. That said, I think I will like the Decathlon one better anyway. It's slightly bigger and has that foil on it for way better R value.
I definitely noticed the searching issues on their site as well.
What I like from Decathlon are those 5$ synthetic t-shirts, they dry faster than my Arcteryx synthetic t-shirst
The anti slips on this pas is actually my favorite feature. With a lot of pads, I would wake up next to them in the middle of the night. Because of these patch and also the general design of decathlons pad, I don’t have this issue with it. The only thing I’m sad about is the low R value.
I've used one of these over the summer and quite like it, I found it good for bivvy camping. Also glad I'm not the only one who can't get it back in the stuff sack. Cheers Luke 👍
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Hey. I’m looking at it for bivy. I’m new to bivying and my Thermarest NeoAir is too bulky. I like the idea of a shorter mat to create a bit more space around the feet. Is it still working out well for you?
@@robinmacandrew103 It is still good, but I have gone with the large version now, found it awkward with my feet dangling over the edge.
My dudes been eating the spicy food, his beard is getting RED.
Thx Luke
Just ordered the Paria short pad. Much thicker, much higher R value, just under $70. Gets great reviews.
I have a Thermarest Scout self inflating 1/2 pad, which is a very rugged bivouac pad for roughing it
Summer backpacking I use a full length mat as they are about 400g
Cooler weather I use an insulated woman’s mat since I am 167 tall, which is like having a 3/4 length mat and my head is on my pillow off the mat
This is a significant weight saving
I nave a negative experience with an inflatable sleeping pad (Klymit Static V DeLuxe) as I am too heavy - it has now more glue than fibre but still gets deflated after couple of hours☹ But definitively will go for the short sleeping pad when I get lighter - I spin as a propeller every night so every morning, I wake up with my legs off my sleeping pad anyway
What r value would you recommend for winter camping in the NC mountains.
Hey Luke,i was wondering how is this pad in terms of noise compared to the Thermarest Neo Air Xlite? I was thinking of getting the therm one day in the future but the idea of it being noisier puts me of. I have this Decathlon pad in the regular size and i don't find it that bad. Thanks for your reply🙏
knowing those silicon padges on ridinggear ( horseridingpants), I believe in an instant they are very uncomfortable to lay on. I know riders who got blisters from those on their pants after an hour of riding. Flipped over and have the silicon prefend the mat itself from shifting around in the tent would be a lot better.....overall I like decathlon; I have bought some ridinggear from them. I also bought some practice arrows for recurve bows from decathlon that hold really well and shoot really nice. One is sadly broken now, but that had nothing to do with the quality but everything with a shepherd pup that sank her teeth in it. Their price to quality ratio is excellent in my opinion.
Search
Trekking mattress
and all the hiking sleeping pads will come up
Camping and sleeping mats the complete selection will come up
Decathlon has excellent gear
Great selection of clothing
Very price sensitive
Not particularly lightweight
I would not buy their sleeping bag or tents
Much better and lighter on the market
But excellent for a beginner
Their warranty is solid
I think decathlon are great I had a pair of
Salomon hiking shoes for 5 months hiking and they started to come apart
They exchanged them for a new pair
Ever going to look at the thermarest neo air uberlite, or have you already and i just couldnt find the video?
I see room for improvement. It definitely looks promising. Blow up, let air out, let air completely out with one nozzle could lessen the weight. removing the flipping the grip pads on the other side. The weight is a plus. I have a nemo half size. I have takin it out on numerous trips. Cost was high BUT design is perfect.
As you probably know Décathlon is a French company.. we have two stores in the town near me... Generally the products have pretty good r&d... and some pretty advanced and nice features on very well priced gear... But there in lies the catch, the quality of the materiels used is not up to the ambitions of the design... most products are cheaply made and I've found don't hold up in the long run.. BUT for the price I'm still tempted by the camping gear which can usually do the job..
As to the website, I'm guessing it was translated from the French, and hence the mix up with terminology. If I go into the French site and type in the same type of product in French I get the correct list of gear... There is a filter on the right-hand column that lets you fine down your choices...
Could you do a review of the Teton Sports Altos Insulated Pad? I've been considering it but cant find a lot of reliable information about it
I've got the larger one I'm 16 stone and it keeps me comfortable ..
I've purchased a lot of stuff from Decathlon, may I request for you to test their 2 person tent and the living area, l have them both, thank you sir.
Hi Luke, could you do a review for the Naturehike Cycling Storage 1P Camping Tent please?
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i feel like if you used those none slips on a cot they would be awesome! can we get a test?
Would the anti slip patches be good for hammock camping so that the pad would stay in place?
i have the bigger version the yellow one you should totally try it
Hi, if you dont mind I would like to see a review of the Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Topo Luxe sleeping pad, I have had great experiences with It and I would like to see your opinion on it.
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hi dude,
will this work with the snugpak stratosphere, im struggling to find a pad that fits inside it🤔
In warmer weather the short length would be ok except the feet would tend to hang.
In the colder weather I want my feet off the ground. The small amount of thermal protection it offers is often enough to make the difference!
Overall it is a nice pad!
1.6 R value? What temperature would this be useful down to? 60? 50?
captain, what is the song in the end of the vid?
Looking for a new pad possibility the klymet static v.
all of my worn items are from decathlon because they just deliver, especially considering the price. they have the best value in my experience. of course, it's not the best, but again, for the price, there are a lot of products worse than decathlon.
Luke have a question would you two be doing a winter adventure with the van
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Sounds like a great pad , for the intended purpose . Also , I have been forced to sleep on a hill a few times . And waking up in the middle of the night , slid down against the tent .. sucks !! Normally your footbox , or feet get wet . This pad , with the wrong side down would stop that , it seems . I have never used a 3/4 pad ! Be safe out there folks .. Gubs
Is it water proof and can I use it as a surf board with out damaging. Thanks
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Yap. Decathlon Singapore also has a very badly designed and mot user friendly website mobile/desktop use) when it started. Over the years they did improve on the layout and user experiences.
I uses the long pad and agreed it’s noisy but not a deal breaker. However i do find the long vertical air chamber curve in from the side when laying on it. Horizontal chamber might be better.
Many items where not available in Singapore but we do get some at lower price as compared to the U S of A.
I have the longer (185 cm ) older version of this pad, which has no silicone patches. They added those patches as they upgraded the product in 2018 or 2019 if I remeber well.
However it's a great product considering the price. Really comfortable and durable.
The silicone pads would face down so the pad doesn’t slide on the floor.
One thing that I wonder with a lot of your videos where size could be sn issue is your height. In this one and the ones with the One Tigris chairs I think it would be a useful piece of information for making a decision. I'm 6' tall and I don't think this pad would fit well from what I saw.
dekatlon is most time pure product but good for the money, so is good to start and later togo for better products
I much prefer a “3/4 length” mattress. Have for over 25 years.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Looks like I'm buying another sleeping pad!
Always love a pad that requires a patch kit
You've showed it's safe to lay on top of your carkeys on it! Great!
Wow I see many good words for Decathlon products here, honestly in my youth in Italy Decathlon was well know to be cheap yes but the qualtiy was horrible and durability even worst. Perhaps they improved in the last 20 years or so. Good to know!
"...so if you're someone who wakes very easily, at the slightest sound-"
-then buy some earplugs*, nature is pretty effing noisy, & improve your entire camping experience at once. 😉
Thanks for the warning about the patches, Luke; I have waist-length, fine but profuse, heavily-bleached-for-years hair, so this is _very_ relevant to my interests.
Looks like a beauty, but not for me.
*Unless you're listening for wild animals or _human_ predators, may I suggest Mack's[tm]? Their many varieties are all softer, comfier, + more effective than any other brand I've tried - & being myself a sensitive sleeper in any environment, I've tried a few.
Give me a military rubber lady.yeah it's heavy yet it's tough and full length and the larger outer tubes keep you on the mattress.
I'm guessing the pads are for the bottom of the pad so it doesn't slide around.
I've had Half Matt Sleeping Pads...I don't like them. For inside a hammock in summer...it would be ok
..listen to people who have ''been there, done that''..lol..good one, keep well.. (p.s. punch in ''air mattress'' on their site...lol..).
Peter Dinklage has one!
$25 on sale.
Lol, if you wake at "the slightest sound" sleeping outside is probably not for you. Even in winter i cant think of one time the night has been dead silent.
You have got to do some of decathlons tents Luke some of them are shockingly bad my mate brought on and he would of been dryer sleeping outside the tent !