As a teacher with training in historical research, I am immensely impressed by the clarity with which you deliver concepts that are dependent upon extensive scholarship: no easy task! Thank you again. Your kind of work is vital if we are ever to make sense of our divided world.
I don't think you are a goof teacher. A teacher first demonstrates his methodology for history. Alexander has never done that. He uses two standards. He uses the hypersceptical method for islamic sources. He uses the non critical method for non muslim islamic sources. That's why no serious scholar accept these wild theories based on a contradicting methodology.
@@alonzoharris6730 Hello, Alonzo. I think that Thomas presents a fair approach. He has elsewhere made his sources, e.g. scholars such as Patricia Crone, quite clear, so you can easily check the assumptions and techniques upon which he bases his videos. His discussion of the paleography used to determine Quranic sources was clear without being oversimplified. You are, of course, still welcome to your opinion of me as a poor teacher. Kind regards.
@@haroldwood1394 Patricia Crone is very clear. Mohamed is a real historical person who came with the Quran. Thomas is not fair. His methodology is absurd. He rejects every source that debunks his theory. Do yoi believe Mohamed in the Quran is Jesus?
For me it is 7th Century Mecca and Medina, especially Mecca 1. Very little water it was in a desert 2. No more than a hamlet 3. The Quran and Islamic texts don’t describe Mecca A. it has palm trees B. It has fields C. It has fruits D. It has a stream E. It has olive trees etc. 4. The surrounding kingdoms had never heard of it 5. It was never on any trade route 6. It wasn’t on any historical map until 900 7. An aqueduct had to be built in the 9th century to supply water to Mecca 8. It is only mentioned once in the Qurans 9. No archaeological evidence for a 7th Century cosmopolitan Mecca, or even a cosmetic Mecca in the 8th or 9th Centuries.
@@yerpyaboy The Birmingham text is written in a form of Arabic known as Hejazi, and there was no Mecca in the Hijaz in the 7th Century The earliest recorded date for any Mecca is 741, and that’s in Mesopotamia (ref; the late Patricia Crone). The earliest date that the Mecca in the Hijaz is recorded on any map is 900
Fascinating, the creation of Sira is one f the greatest mysteries I grow up with, wish you give it appropriate coverage in your videos. Keep up the good work.
@@JesusisaMuslim The Biblical prophet Isiah is not in Quran. Neither is he part of Torah, So, he is not an Islamic prophet. Dedanim is near current day Al-Ula which is 300Kms north of Medina, Badr is 100kms south-west of Medina. Isiah 21:13-17 foretells that Arabs would be driven into flight by the Assyrians, or that that populous country should be turned into a desolate wilderness. It has nothing to do with Badr.
@@JesusisaMuslim Isiah is not part of any of allahs raveled scriptures ie. quran, torah or gospels, hence he is not islamic prophet. Isiah is a jewish prophet who is mentioned in the hebrew bible of jews. Muslims have to trust the jewish scriptures to believe in Isiah. Dedan (now part of Al-'Ula, Saudi Arabia) was an oasis and city-state of north-western Arabia. The people of Dedan are called Dedanim or Dedanites. Dedan is also the name of the son of Raamah and the son of Jokshan. It is 300kms north of Medina, whereas Badr is 100Kms sout-west of Medina, between Mecca & Medina. Kedar is biblical name of arab tribe in Southern Jordan and North-west Arabia. Kedar is one of Ishmael’s sons (Gen 25:13; 1 Chron 1:29), and the tribe of Kedar are his descendants.
@@JesusisaMuslim isiah is not an islamic prophet since he is never mentioned in Quran. Book of isaiah is part of Jewish scriptures.. Isaiah has nothing to do with Islam, but Muslims are desperate to claim him to justify the falsehoods on which Islam is built. Badr has nothing to do isiahs prophesy..even the geographical location is completely wrong..
Thomas is exposing in his videos so many cover-ups in Islam that its hard to believe how Arabs made the Siras to explain the Quran by inventing new meaning to it,Unbelievable how much effort has been put to create a character biography of a person...Thanks Thomas for all your efforts in explaining these.
@@JesusisaMuslim Islam is a cleverly cooked up religion, their is no evidence of mecca medina before 8th century, the character of Muhammed is invented in 8th to 9th centuries...Islam is a total fake religion after studying it for 2 years i understand this fact.
I suspect the selling of the Sira and Hadith collections was a motivating factor. Remember in those days they didn't have Netflix or Amazon Prime. Religious figures and their stories were the biggest show in town.
@@JesusisaMuslim Yep 👍🏼 you are right about one thing Safraz.. Islam ☪️ is pure .. Pure Bullshit .. From beginning to end a totally fabricated fantasy fiction..
This is going to be very interesting, thank you Thomas, I think you've mentioned before that the stories of Mohammad were produced to make sense of the Abbasid Koran/Korans? Also I like the references you put down, but for me personally I would find it useful if you did a summary of the main points, the very best Simon
I've been really enjoying this series, it really makes a compelling case, confident enough that I'm starting to try it out on people. Knowing how the world works I know that on any given day someone can come along and ask a question that I don't have an answer for, for instance: 'Who is it then buried under the Green Dome?' Christians have an answer for an empty tomb, but in theory Muslims should be able to produce Muhamad-II's DNA, while Thomas is suggesting we should find an empty tomb.
Interesting. What made me understand what you are arguing in the video was again Gabriel Said Reynolds book, the quran and its Biblical subtext. My mind cought the problem when reading the case study of surah 11 verse 69 to 72. Professor reynolds clearly explains that all the stories provided to expalin the verses grow over time in detials and are mutually exclusive to each other. This implied that all of them were independent traditions of exegesis whit no foundation. the fact that each explanation (reynolds numbered 12 traditions) had its own isnad and trasmitted clearly points to the fact that someone backprojected the traditions back in time down to "muhammad" to support his own position. Once I finised to read that chapter my mind suddently recalculated all Islam and made me clear that muhammad came from exegesis mixed with Biblical traditions and arab history. I only disagree with you that the quran is related to anti-thrinitarianism. I think the quran is simply pure forgery to take control of the arab leaders
Does Reynolds deny that Mohamed existed? The answer is no? Does je deny that Mohamed didn't exist and islam didn't come from the Hijaz? The answer is no. There is million times more historical evidence for Mohamed than for Jesus and Paul combined.
Once again Thanks Thomas for this livestream.You are spot on with your information and to surmise I would say a lot of what has crystallized today as Islam is more of "Revisionism "and much more is made of the so called prophet of Islam.Keep up the good work.
@@alonzoharris6730 Oh serrrriously, nice try.And why is Paul a thorn in the side of Abdoooools??? I wonder as to why a sovereign allah had to wait for 610 years later to re- vamp his word...nice Hikmah even this word is plagiarized from the Hebrew Hokmah....Lol Enjjjoy your feasting ya Akhi.
@@julietabraham476 Can you show me a contemporary non Christian source of Paul? You claim that he was an important figure who had jurisdiction in Damascus to persecute Christians. Can you show me a Jewish or Roman source?
@@alonzoharris6730 Can you show me any evidence from the 7th century about Mecca? You avoid questions on Islam??? but attack Christianity because you have no defense for your embellished, fabricated revisionist Deen.
@@JesusisaMuslim Yeah so why don't you Abdool Scholiars ...not Scholars exegete the book after 610 years....Lol Go fix the holes in your S.I.N. first.Stop your copy paste from abdoolian websites, use your logic, no you can't because you have to be compliant to Sura 5: 101.You guys can't defend your book so you look to the Bible to bail you out....shameful.
Islamic scholars have been studying every word of the Quran for 1400 years now and producing interpretations, and giving sermons, just as Jewish and Christian scholars have always done. The Quran is no different from the scriptures, apocryphal stories and pseudo-gospels that came before it. Out of the mouths of man, recited and written down by the hands of men and later compiled and edited by yet other men. 😁
@@davidzack8735 every book is wrriten in the earth only, books dont drop from heaven, only rains do...but we as Christians dont claim that Bible is already present in heaven as a tablet like muslims claim, Bible was written by 40 diffrent people during 1500 years of Jewish History, under the Inspiration of Holy Spirit...every word in the Bible is not the word of God, prophets speak,kings speak,common people speak there, and then God also speaks...the overall message and inspiration is from God, not the text or letter of the Bible itself.
@@yakovmatityahu Fun fact. The Old Testament is a collection of myths and legends and histories of the Jewish people written down over thousands of years. The New Testament contains four gospels which are four different accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ written by four different men. I never tire of trying to explain that to Muslims but it's no good. They have been accusing the Bible of 'corruption' for 1400 years now because they think we think it is the actual Word of God, as they believe their Quran to be the actual Word of the God of the Kabah. How mad is that? 😁
Outstanding, as usual. In the light of your research, I have been wondering about the standard narrative surrounding the collection of the Hadith. Do you think that the Hadith were collected from folk tales and 90% were discarded? Or do you think they were mostly created and the story about their collection is just that, a story?
Thankyou Thomas OUR questions to Muslims remain unanswered All these biographies are too late Where is the early Muslims communities in the7th century We see Muhammed had a scribe known as Sayyid Ibn thabi Why did he not write the biography ?but it took 130 yrs until itis written by a man who is from all the way to the north
The earliest written biography of the prophet was that of Ibn Ishaq who used his father's and grandfather's notes and stories of Muhammad and his companions. Ibn Ishaq's grandfather was a Christian slave taken to Medina who became a Quran and history reciter during the time of Khalid b al-Walid. Saying Ibn Ishaq's biography is sheer invention and Muhammad never existed is like saying to an English person today that you don't believe anything handed down from their grandfather and his father before him about the Boer War. 😁
Have you even bothered to read Guillaume's scholarly introduction to Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah? Go read the list of names of the earliest maghazi writers that Ibn Ishaq got his information from before making any more ignorant statements, please. 😁
@@johnseventhday9145 Fun fact. Manuscripts are by their nature PERISHABLE, fool. The only way we have the full text of Caesar's Gallic Wars surviving over 2000 years is by endless recopying until the invention of printing. Go to channel Useful Charts Oldest Manuscripts of the Bible. It explains such facts for people like you. 😁
Ich habe einige Bücher von Karlheinz Ohlig gelesen. Von daher erfahre ich hier nichts wirklich Neues. Aber: es ist so erfrischend, es einmal zu hören und zu wissen, dass man nicht alleine ist. Also: Bitte so weiter machen!!!
@@yakovmatityahu It seems he has a German and an English book on the same topic (the titles are slightly different, but same topic, so that might be a translation).
@@hypnosecoachinghombach7517 Ohk thanks for the information, btw i am planning to buy Luxemborg book Syro Aramaic reading of Quran, i will check for books from karl, thanks again.
It is clear that the words "ansar" (ie helpers or allies) and "nasara" (translated as "christians" in quran) have exactly the same arabic trilitteral root of 3 letters: n-s-r ن ص ر which means to help. So the so-called "ansar" (helpers) from Medina (yathrib) were in fact "nasara" ie christians (but they were anti-trinitarian christians and therefore considered as heretics within byzantine empire)
@@alonzoharris6730 Why did I pick that Quran? I have a few English Qurans and I was following the presentation by Thomas and found G. Sales Translation fascinating as it had different words from others. Hope i responded correctly to your question
Hi Thomas, big fan from Portugal. I believe there was a man given the title "Muhammad", a war lord that claimed at some point prophethood and become a sort of a king, or, the other way around. So my question is: how can we explain the non muslim sources that speak of a "prophet among the arabs"? What about its family relations? Yes, i dont believe these people religion was "islamic", rather some kind of a messianic judaic sect, but are you going to adress that? Keep up the good work!!!
@@alonzoharris6730 the Dome comes much later than the life and suposed revelations of "muhammad". Islam is a latter construction and the sources seem to indicate that.
@@dragaoastro69 The sources don't seem to indicate that. We have Quranic manuscripts from the time of the prophet. These are the earliest sources. Try to do the same for Jesus or for any other prophet. There is million times more historical evidence for Mohamed than for Jesus and Paul combined.
I'm following with great interest your videos and i would love to know your thoughts about the reasons for the choice of the actual Mecca as a sanctuary. And also what you know and think about Medina, that you said in some other video that was originally a christian sanctuary, but you didn't give details about that claim. Thank you for your videos! Keep up this good work!
you can't use a city which is known/has known history when you make things up. to make a fake story about a fake Prophet you need to start in a EMTY PLACE like mecca.
The story of the Satanic verses rings true, because of the negative effect it had. When Muhammad told the Meccans that the three goddesses could be intermediaries with Allah, all the Meccans prostrated themselves in unity with the Muslims. When Muhammad rescinded the statement the next day, it was the final straw for the Meccans. It led to the boycott of his two family tribes and to their near starvation. It also explains why at Badr the Muslims wreaked such atrocities on the fleeing and captured Meccans. Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah is essential reading. He gives a clear, short and concise account of the events of the battle. Then and only then does he say what people said later about seeing angels, etc. He always differentiates clearly what he believes to be true and what he has been told by others but regards as possibly exaggeration or fantasy or untruth.
Muhajireens and Ansars, can represent the arabs and christians, but also in a way it could be the difference based on culture, like those muhajireens refer to those who travel or migrate as required and Ansars as those who settled in some place for long, both have different cultures.
May be there were originally a book with some verses not understood by the people, so they reinserted some other verses as explanations or to justify those as per their understanding. Verse 22/52 refers to some general understanding about past prophets and their teachings got corrupted, but they take that to be related with the current prophet and inserted this 53 verse.
9:26 Yes I think we do, if you read Al Tabari volume VI page 107 and onwards theres a context to verse 19-20. Muhammed wanted the pagans to his side, but years later he changed his mind and realized what he had done, therefore saying satan had cast words on his tongue.
Hallo Thomas vielen Dank für Deine Arbeit ! Ein Gespräch mit Christian Prince zusammen währe mal sehr interessant ! Vielleicht sprecht Ihr ja mal miteinander, euer beider Wissen würde in einem gemeinsamen Video einschlagen wie eine....... in der Islamischen Welt! Desto mehr Menschen von dieser Sekte befreit werden desto besser ! Danke
Very clear and very helpful explanation. Thanks! Could you maybe also illustrate the ‘Sirah-Con’ job done to systematize things with the following, please? I have a hunch it’s a political mandate meant for the newly unified Arabs. “…This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your [i.e. Arabs’] religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you [Arabs!] Islam as your religion.” (al-Maida, 3) (Tirmidhi, Tafsir, 5/3043)
Is the life of Muhammad a way to understand the Quran (literary analysis based on facts of the author's life)? Or is a life of Muhammad constructed to explain unclear passages of the Quran (myth building)? I think this is what Thomas is suggesting are opposing possibilities for the origin of the texts of the Sira we have, with the latter being the truth. Once the Sira took an official form in the early 9th Century, the process would have reversed in Islamic experience, with the canonical biographies of Hisham and Tabari used as scripture themselves to further elucidate the text of the Quran, in a way closer to the former, literary analysis method. Exegetical reasoning. I suppose there could be some layers here. For instance, once Muhammad II began to appear, presumably initially in the late 7th or early 8th Centuries as an Arab preacher of anti-trinitarian Christianity, curiosity around this now key personage would have stimulated the creation of narratives about him. These early narratives would have taken on scriptural significance as the centrality of this preacher/prophet figure grew. Once that prophet was strongly embedded, further myth-making could be used to explain even more, such as the example's given by Thomas regarding the tricky passage about the souls in hell or the rejection by the Jews. These examples seem to presuppose the audience's knowledge of a Prophet Muhammad and add new tales to his life. So this would seem to argue for layers of myth-making. Another point seems strange in the SIN here: the complete loss of early Siras from the 7th and early 8th Centuries. Why is it that the SIN is replete with lists of supposed biographers but none of their works survive at all, even in fragments? Could it be that these early biographers did exist but were destroyed because they did not fit the later narrative? After all, the Arab Empire from the 7th Century had vast resources with which to preserve writings. And the Abbasids specifically dedicated themselves to learning and books. How have no texts survived? Perhaps, as the Hadith point out Uthman did with Quran variants, contradicting biographies were actively destroyed?
Fun fact. How do we have the text of Caesar's Gallic Wars today? Manuscripts are by their nature PERISHABLE, dumbo. Caesar's words survived for 1500 years until the invention of printing by being COPIED by scholars and RECOPIED over generations. In the same way, Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, the result of the written work of his father and his grandfather before him and that of early maghazi writers suvived because Ibn Ishaq read it out and dictated it to over a DOZEN pupils including Ibn Hisham. Go to channel Useful Charts Oldest Manuscripts of the Bible. It explains the process for people like you. 😁
@@davidzack8735 So we have no fragments of papyri dating from the 2nd century of the books of the New Testament? And that was a time when the Christian movement was a minor factor in Roman life, not having access to the best resources for book making. Not so the Arab Empire, disposing of essentially endless resources to make books. Where are the fragments from the earliest Sira? Why do none exist? And why would you compare to the Gallic Wars? That text is some 750 years older than the Siras we're talking about would be. Logically, it is far less likely such much older manuscripts, even in fragmentary form, would survive, just from the standpoint of the passage of time. In addition, the Gallic Wars was of far less interest than the Sira of Muhammad, with millions of believers holding it as sacred scripture. The desire to preserve such texts would certainly have been greater. And the number of original copies would seemingly also have been far greater: there was no need for so many copies of the Gallic Wars, while the Sira of Muhammad would have been a valued text by many communities, presumably. The Muslim tradition of isnad also would seem to bring into question the absence of manuscripts. Clearly, Muslims have been extremely concerned with the propriety of transmission. Why would they have not carefully preserved manuscripts that came from the original sources?
@@charlesiragui2473 You just have not grasped the fundamental point, have you? Go to Useful Charts channel post on the oldest manuscripts of Bible. Try ro grasp the concept that manuscripts are PERISHABLE by nature, OK? That is the miracle of the unique Dead Sea Scrolls. Understand? The fact that all the manuscipts we have of ancient texts are copies of copies of eternal copies is a historical fact.
@@davidzack8735 No, I do not understand your point. The value of a manuscript rises as it is closer in time to the presumed but missing original source text. What part of this are you not seeing? Urwa ibn al Zubayr is said to have written letters concerning the biography of Muhammad. He is said to have died in 713. We have no original or copies of these letters. All we have are copies of later Siras of Hisam and Tabari. They are said to have sourced their Siras from previous Sira authors, such as Urwa ibn al Zubayr. So what we do have are copies (to your point I think) of a work by an author who is not the source of the details of the biography of Muhammad.
@@charlesiragui2473 You do not see my point because you have obviously not gone to Useful Charts channel post on the oldest manuscipts of the Bible. It explains in easy-to-understand sentences how rare it is to find ancient manuscripts or even tiny fragments of ancient manuscripts. How thick do you have to be to not understand that the earliest writings were done on parchment or animal skin and are PERISHABLE and the only way the contents could be preserved was by COPYING them! 🤣
You are 100% incorrect, sura 9:100, Emigrants is Muhajirn, which is plural of muhajir, meaning “one who flee from or forsake his home, page 114 in the dictionary of the Holy Quran, which is Classical Arabic. Nasir, meaning one who helps.
Ok the satanic verses are about how the universal interacts with the temporal or god acts in history. God gives revelation to a prophet and the prophet interprets the message and brings it to the people but when this happens each prophet corrupts his message to better please this listeners. This is actually one of the most important religious concepts in the Koran or even in western religion. If one can understand the Koran, Christian and Jewish scriptures like this you will come to fundamentally know God in a way that is deeper than any one of these religions alone.
According to the Biblical book Songs of Solomon, the covenant was transferred from the דּוֹדִֽים dwdym (David's people or the Jews - Songs 5:1) to the מַחֲּמַדִּים mhmdyim (Muhammad's people - Songs 5:16). (Both words are Hebrew masculine, plural NOUNS which the Christian translators have rendered as the adjective, lovely in their translations to hide the transfer of the covenant.). The Hebrew plural, masculine nloun suffix 'ym' is used to denote the people of the nation to which the proper noun refers as in מּוֹאָבִים (Moabym or Moabites), Ammonites or Amonym עַמֹּנִים, Egyptians or Musrym מִּצְרִים, Chaldeans or Chasidym כַּשְׂדִּים, Lydians or Lydym לוּדִים etc. The words mhmdym and dwdym are unique and only used once each in the entire Bible. So, one expects the translation to also be unique. The words dwdym and mhmdym constitute a synonymous parallelism which references the covenant relationship between these 2 peoples. The dwdym or Jews were the last ancient Semitic people to hold this covenant before it was transferred to the mhmdym or the Muslims who were and are Muhammad's people. In addition, the Palestinians are the original Jews as they carry the haplotype J1c3d. The Ashkenazi who control Palestine are not Semites. So, Palestinians, the native inhabitants for more than 5000 years, are the rightful owners of Palestine according to history, genetics and the bible. The control of the land of Israel was based on the contingency that those bound by the covenant would obey the law (Torah) and worship the One, True God. According to the Bible, the Jews failed to abide by the covenant conditions. The last straw was when they attempted to murder the Prophet, Jesus (as). Matthew 21:43 has Jesus declare: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." So, it is clear that Jesus confirmed the prophecy in Songs 5 and the covenant was taken from the dwdym (David's people) and given to the mhmdym (Muhammad's people). The Mhmdym (Muslims) fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Jews when they created an empire that stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. The Mhmdym also rebuilt the former temple as Masjid Al Aqsa on the site which the Christian had deliberately defiled to dishonor the Jews and their god, Yhwh. Songs is an allegory with many different levels of meaning. The poem is symbolic. The groom is symbolic of the king who ruled Judah, and who was a member of the dwdym or David's people. The bride represents the people of the covenant. The love between the spouses represents the covenant. Dwdym (David's people) represents the original people of the covenant or Jews. The Mhmdym represent the people of Muhammad to whom the covenant is transferred when the bride addresses her groom as Muhammadim or the people of Muhammad.. The bride, who is symbolic of the people of the covenant, switched her allegiance from the king who was both the ruler of and a member of the dwdym (David's people) to the Muhammadim (Muhammad's people) because the Muhammadim were the recipients of the new covenant. The covenant was transferred to the Mhmdym because the Jews rejected Jesus and his message. This new covenant was the means through which Allah (swt) made Muhammad the founder of a nation whose empire stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. The achievements of the Muhammadim fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Hebrews. Songs is a prophecy that the Law or Torah was to be expressed through a covenant between the deity and the people who were committed to the purified Torah which became known as the Shariah, the law or Torah of the Muslim ummah. Allah's (swt) promises are always true, Subhanallah.
You were doing good but made just one mistake in the end muhammad said those were satanic verses only after 8 years even though he was receiving quran in those 8 years allah didn't try to change it he only changed it when a jew asked him about his hypocritical polytheism under the disguise of monotheism please do note this point.
This is a much better choice than having the verses "revealed" to someone. After all, in islam Muhammad is the Forger. In the hadith, every time Muhammad sees the need, he just makes up a verse from allah. His soldiers want to rape rightly married women, what to do? He comes up with a verse saying that his allah allows any women as booty, even if the husband converted (any pressure to do?) to the invasor's religion. Now, if the quran comes first, then we simply have sincere and innocent fictional writers doing their job of imagining an explanation to something already meaningless because already out of context.
It's clear that Proto-Qoran is a christian text. For example in Surat al Qadr, when "Allah" says: تَنَزَّلُ ٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةُ وَٱلرُّوحُ فِيهَا بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِم مِّن كُلِّ أَمْرٍۢ That night the angels and the ˹holy˺ spirit descend (Jibreel), by the permission of their Lord, for every ˹decreed˺ matter. If Jibriil is the Holy Spirit and not an angel? Why the Qoran stays in a christian doctrine, separating "Angels" and "Ruh" (Jibriil)?? Does is not Jibriil and angel? Why you separate him from "Malaika" -angels-. It's because in the begining the text said: And Descend the Angels (included Jibriil) and the Holy Spirit (Christian Concept).
Guys, please don't give importance to trolls. His usual tactic is to make a comment to instigate Christians to try and divert from the topic of the video because he usually doesn't have enough knowledge on it.
@@alonzoharris6730 Show us the evidence. There is not one eyewitness account for the demon Jibril. Muhammad was a created character. There is more evidence for Harry Potter than Muhammad.
@@alonzoharris6730 You can't even spell Muhammad. There is enormous historical evidence for Paul. Not all of his travels were recorded in the NT. There is evidence that Pauls last journey was as far as Spain. Obviously Paul could not record his last journey as he died. It is believed that Paul visited the Messianic believers in Catalonia. We have evidence of the Catalan church as the copies of the 1st century Catalan Hebrew gospels were hidden for years during the persecution by the Romans and later during the Inquisition. Copies of the Catalan gospels were hidden in Columbus. There is so much historical evidence of Jesus that I am not even going into it. Jesus appears to people today and still heals the sick.
*NO TRINITY* *Matthew* *7: 13,14* *14 Go in through the narrow gate; for WIDE is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth unto DESTRUCTION, and MANY are they which go in thereon.14 For the gate is NARROW, and the strait is the way, which leadeth unto LIFE, and FEW there be that find it.* *A.* *Timothy* *2: 4,5* *4 GOD wants all people to be saved and to know the TRUTH. 5 For there is one GOD, and one MEDITATOR between GOD and men, the MAN CHRIST JESUS;* *Revelation of John* *3:14* *14 And unto the angel of the church in Laodicea write; Thus saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness. the beginning of the CREATION of GOD.* "ARE MANY" who will follow the path of loss but "A FEW" will find the narrow gate. Mattew 7:13 John 3:13 (Jesus said)No one ascended into heaven. but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which was from the heaven. Why do we grow old and die? GOD did not want humans to die. Our first parents, Adam and Eve, were created with a perfect mind and body.They could still be alive today.This is clear from what God said to Adam about a tree growing in the garden of Eden. God said to Adam:“The day you eat [from the tree] you will surely die.” Genesis 2:17. This command would have been meaningless if Adam had been created to grow old and die. Adam knew that if he did not eat from that tree, he would not die. GOD'S PURPOSE WAS NOT THAT PEOPLE DIE. God said to Adam:"Eat your bread with the sweat of your brow until you return to the ground from where you were taken.for you were dust and you will become dust. ” Genesis 3: 17-19 As a result,“all the days of Adam's life were nine hundred and thirty years and he died.”Genesis 5: 5. Adam did not go to heaven or hell.Or live in a spiritual realm. What is the Resurrection? The Bible's answer In the Bible,the Greek word translated "resurrection" means "to stand" or "to restore." The resurrected person is resurrected from the dead and is the same person who was before. 1 Corinthians 15:12, 13. It is true that the word "resurrection" is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures,which are known as the Old Testament, but the promise of resurrection is there.For example,through the prophet Hosea,God promised:“I will rescue them from the hand of the grave, and I will rescue them from death.” Hosea 13:14; Job 14: 13-15; Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12: 2, 13. Where will people be resurrected? Some people will be resurrected to live in heaven.There they will reign with Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 5: 1; Revelation 5: 9, 10.The Bible calls this resurrection "the first resurrection" and the word "first" makes it clear that there will be another resurrection. Revelation 20: 6 That other resurrection will be for the living on paradise earth, and most of the dead will be resurrected in this way. Psalm 37:29. How are the dead raised?God gave Jesus the power to resurrect the dead. John 11:25. Jesus will bring to life “all those in the memorial tombs,” each with his own personality, attributes, and memories. John 5:28, 29. Some will be resurrected to live in heaven, while others will be resurrected to live on paradise earth with perfect and healthy bodies. Isaiah 33:24; 35: 5, 6. 1 Corinthians 15: 42-44, 50 They multiply priests and saints with sad faces pile up, perform miracles,cast out demons.But Jesus said,The tree is known by its fruit. MATTHEW 7: 21-23: 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day,'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,and cast out demons in your name,and did many miracles in your name?'23 Then i will tell them plainly that I did not know you at all.Get away from me, you workers of iniquity. Matthew 7: 15-20 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 By their fruits ye shall know them.Do they gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles?17 So every good tree bringeth forth good fruit;and an evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.20 Ye shall know them by their fruits. B.LETTER TO CORINTHIANS 11: 13-15: 13 For such are the apostles, liars, deceitful workers, impersonating the apostles of Christ.14 And it is not surprising. because Satan also takes the form of a bright angel.15 Wherefore, it is not a great thing that his ministers should be likened unto the ministers of righteousness. Their end will be in proportion to their deeds. 4: 4. In whom is the god of this world? (Satan) blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the light of the glory of the gospel of Christ might not shine upon them, which is the image of God. Eternal life is a free gift from God. The eternal punishment is not righteousness because how many years can a human beeing live at most?God is Love Bible answers Ecclesiastes 3:19,20 19 for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals,they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies, and they all have but one life. So man has no superiority over animals,(No additional soul. Only have additional knowlege,thinking,talking,etc...)verything is futile. 20 All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust. John 5:28,29 28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. Psalm 37:29 it's clear A. LETTER TO TIMOTHY 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus! Mattew 24:36 36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows,neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. *NO TRINITY* *John* *20:17* 17 *Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.* *JOHN* *6:38* *(Jesus said)* 38 *For I came down from heaven, not to do mine OWN will, but the will of HIM that sent me.* *John* *14:28* 28 *Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.* *Matthew* *20:23* 23 *And HE saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of MY cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not MINE to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my FATHER.* *John* *5:30* 30 *I can of MINE own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not MINE own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent ME:* *John* *17:20**-23* *(ONE IN GLORY)* 20 *Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on ME through their word; 21 That they all may be ONE; as THOU, FATHER, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be ONE in US: that the world may believe that THOU hast sent ME. 22 And the glory which thou gavest ME, I have given them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE: 23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be made perfect in ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent ME, and hast loved THEM, as THOU hast loved ME:* TRINITY ARE FALSE TEACHINGS only thrue Lord God is *JEHOVAH* (the Father)and his first creation is *JESUS CHRIST*(the Son) everything else created by *JESUS* more scripture prooves *NO TRINITY*
Hey, Thomas. When did Muhammad 1 begin? So far you have not provided any evidence whatsoever that the epithet 'Muhammad' was regularly and constantly applied to Jesus in any form between 1AD and 610AD (when the historical Muhammad came along claiming that the ancient moon god of the Kabah was the same god as in the Bible). Just asking. 😁
@@hetrodoxly1203 Actually 'Muhammad' means the Praised One, not the Blessed One. And that passage in Matthew is not translated as 'Muhammad' in any Arabic Bible, is it? 😁
I have provided evidence. It's even in the Bible itself. Muhammad is the Arabic translation of the Greek word Eulogēménos or the Latin word Benedictus, i.e. praised/blessed be. It has been applied to Jesus very early on.
Thomas, I think this is by far the most bizarre and weakest argument in all your videos. Again, I think the thesis is at least somewhat persuasive, but what you are doing with the "criteria of embarrassment" is not a good argument. Islamic apostacy is HEAVILY fueled by these embarrassing accounts. You are mind-reading redactors and this kind of process is pure speculation which can create a house of cards. "No historian believes such and such." How does this matter? Scholarship needs to be demystified. dismissal of supernatural elements is entirely unobjective, just as it is unobjective to dismiss "fanciful" accounts simply on the basis of enlightenment skepticism. This is a dead end. There is no objective basis for anything going down this road. I'm not making an argument for Islam. Islam is false. I'm simply arguing with you about your methods and the methods of higher critics. These methods are not baseless but they are weak and completely fraught with arbitrary skepticism and bias. Everything man does is arbitrary without an ultimate source by which to measure truth by.
Doing Quranic exegesis by telling stories that develop into the Sira and then the Hadith? They're still doing it until today 🤣🤣🤣. Seriously, it sounds like adopting the rabbinic method of teaching scriptural principles in the Talmud.
In Surah Tariq, Allah mentions a piercing, whole boring star that emits sound. بِسۡمِ اللهِ الرَّحۡمٰنِ الرَّحِيۡمِ وَالسَّمَآءِ وَالطَّارِقِۙ وَمَاۤ اَدۡرٰٮكَ مَا الطَّارِقُۙ النَّجۡمُ الثَّاقِبُۙ "By the sky and the Tariq. And what will explain the Tariq. It is a hole boring star." The word tariq طرق means piercer and najm ٱلنَّجْمُ means star and thaqib ثقب means to bore a hole. Look it up in the dictionary. Tariq طرق has many meanings and one of them is 'to penetrate'. The primary meaning of thaqib ثقب is 'to bore or drill a hole." The meaning of طرق 'to penetrate' is consistent with the meaning of ثقب "to bore or drill a hole.' Tariq also means 'to knock or bang', which is also consistent with the word tariq meaning a rotating black hole that emits sound waves. According to NASA: Sept. 9, 2003: Astronomers using NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory have found, for the first time, sound waves from a supermassive black hole. The “note” is the deepest ever detected from any object in our Universe. The tremendous amounts of energy carried by these sound waves may solve a longstanding problem in astrophysics. The black hole resides in the Perseus cluster of galaxies located 250 million light years from Earth. In 2002, astronomers obtained a deep Chandra observation that shows ripples in the gas filling the cluster. These ripples are evidence for sound waves that have traveled hundreds of thousands of light years away from the cluster’s central black hole. “The Perseus sound waves are much more than just an interesting form of black hole acoustics,” says Steve Allen, of the Institute of Astronomy and a co-investigator in the research. “These sound waves may be the key in figuring out how galaxy clusters, the largest structures in the Universe, grow.” So, Tariq is a rotating black hole that emits sound waves. This rotating, sound emitting black hole is the black hole at the center of our Milky Way galaxy. According to Wikipedia: '... the Milky Way has a supermassive black hole in its Galactic Center..." Truly the Quran is a miracle.
Come on, IT DOES NOT talk about astronomy. Surah 27 DOES NOT talk about the scientific fact that ants can communicate, and so on. The Quran DOES NOT tell that the earth is round like an ostrich egg, that iron comes from heaven, and so on. You've been lied by modern scholars and their propaganda machine... What the Quran tells about the stars is that they are lamps put as decoration in the lower heaven, and the shooting stars are missiles aimed at the devils...
@@marc3dartist601 Read the Arabic. I translated the Arabic word for word instead of substituting words in English which 'explain' the words in Arabic. Look up each word and you will see that the translation in this post is totally in line with the definitions of these words in any Arabic Dictionary. The Piercer (tariq), according to this verse is literally a 'hole boring star'. The only interpretation that makes sense is that Tariq/the Piercer is the galaxy centered black hole of our Milky Way galaxy. There is not other explanation available.
@@marc3dartist601 As for ants communicating: "Communication between individuals is essential in any organized society, and for ants - whose colonies have been known to contain as many as 306 million worker ants - this is no different. However, whereas human societies most notably use sound, sight, and touch to communicate between individuals, ant societies also make great use of chemical signals called pheromones. Ants use pheromones in a number of different ways, such as releasing ‘danger’ pheromones upon death to alert nearby ants, or to create chemical trails from their nest to promising food sources. Other ants in the colony can use their antennas to detect these pheromones and respond accordingly." sciencenode.org/feature/understanding-chemical-communication-in-ant-societies.php Quran is always correct.
@@hollyaldahir4910 Yes, good scientific explanation, but too many words. Nothing in the Quran refers to that. It simply say that the ants saw Solomon and his army and one said: ''quick, go to our dwelling or Solomon army will crush us...'' Nothing more. Funny story, but nothing to do with all the scientific observation.
@@marc3dartist601 Yes, the ants communicated to one another when they sensed the Solomon's marching army: The army may have habitually used this route and the ants immediately reacted. "Ants employ vibrations to produce sounds that are heard by ants and this hearing behavior is important when searching for food and when alarm signals are produced that signify some sort of danger. Ant sounds vary by ant groups and include some ants that produce sounds by stridulation, which is defined as the act of producing sound by rubbing together certain body parts. These ants use their gaster, the distended part of their abdomen located behind the ant’s pedicel and their mandibles to produce sounds used to communicate with colony members or with other species of ants. These behaviors produce ground vibrations that are detected by the ant’s subgenual organ, which is located below the ant’s femur and tibia leg joint. Warning Signals Other ant species possess the behavior of drumming their abdomen on the substrate of the ant nest which creates an alarm response that stimulates other ants to drum their abdomens. This communicates a warning alarm that signals danger throughout the entire nest. So, while ants use chemical pheromones and physical touch to stimulate or direct behavior, they also use hearing to incite required behavioral protection responses designed to protect their colony." BTW, this is a story circulated by the Jewish community in the Arabian Peninsula. Talking animals are a biblical phenomena where there is a talking snake and a talking donkey. www.orkin.com/pests/ants/can-ants-hear
So what? The hereditary line simply continued through Muhammad's real family: daughter Fatima married to his cousin Ali and their sons Hassan and Hussein. 😁
that is the actual reason but we need to connect the dots for others to also believe the same i know this is the papacies deception the way the research is progressing seems to highly indicate it.
As a teacher with training in historical research, I am immensely impressed by the clarity with which you deliver concepts that are dependent upon extensive scholarship: no easy task! Thank you again. Your kind of work is vital if we are ever to make sense of our divided world.
Thomas is a computer scientist but he has immense talent in Historical research, Germany is still the center of Historical and intellectual studies.
I don't think you are a goof teacher. A teacher first demonstrates his methodology for history. Alexander has never done that. He uses two standards. He uses the hypersceptical method for islamic sources. He uses the non critical method for non muslim islamic sources.
That's why no serious scholar accept these wild theories based on a contradicting methodology.
@@JesusisaMuslim Thank you for the information, Safraz. Best wishes.
@@alonzoharris6730 Hello, Alonzo. I think that Thomas presents a fair approach. He has elsewhere made his sources, e.g. scholars such as Patricia Crone, quite clear, so you can easily check the assumptions and techniques upon which he bases his videos. His discussion of the paleography used to determine Quranic sources was clear without being oversimplified. You are, of course, still welcome to your opinion of me as a poor teacher. Kind regards.
@@haroldwood1394
Patricia Crone is very clear. Mohamed is a real historical person who came with the Quran.
Thomas is not fair. His methodology is absurd.
He rejects every source that debunks his theory.
Do yoi believe Mohamed in the Quran is Jesus?
This video has the most convincing arguments against the standard Islamic narrative
For me it is 7th Century Mecca and Medina, especially Mecca
1. Very little water it was in a desert
2. No more than a hamlet
3. The Quran and Islamic texts don’t describe Mecca
A. it has palm trees
B. It has fields
C. It has fruits
D. It has a stream
E. It has olive trees etc.
4. The surrounding kingdoms had never heard of it
5. It was never on any trade route
6. It wasn’t on any historical map until 900
7. An aqueduct had to be built in the 9th century to supply water to Mecca
8. It is only mentioned once in the Qurans
9. No archaeological evidence for a 7th Century cosmopolitan Mecca, or even a cosmetic Mecca in the 8th or 9th Centuries.
@@SkeletalMisunderstanding Thomas does excellent work, but I was replying to KidCSky
@@simonhengle8316 the research I've done puts Mecca around 690...
The Birmingham Quran is written in Aramaic.
But for the most part yeah I agree
@@yerpyaboy
The Birmingham text is written in a form of Arabic known as Hejazi, and there was no Mecca in the Hijaz in the 7th Century
The earliest recorded date for any Mecca is 741, and that’s in Mesopotamia (ref; the late Patricia Crone). The earliest date that the Mecca in the Hijaz is recorded on any map is 900
These narratives have been debunked by real academics.
Thank you so much Thomas Alexander for your inspiration to inform the public about the origins of Islam. I really appreciate your work very much
Fascinating, the creation of Sira is one f the greatest mysteries I grow up with, wish you give it appropriate coverage in your videos. Keep up the good work.
Very informative video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Alexander has been giving blockbusters consistently. Another concise and informative video..
@@JesusisaMuslim are you saying the battle of badr happened in 3rd century BC in Israel?
@@JesusisaMuslim The Biblical prophet Isiah is not in Quran. Neither is he part of Torah, So, he is not an Islamic prophet.
Dedanim is near current day Al-Ula which is 300Kms north of Medina, Badr is 100kms south-west of Medina.
Isiah 21:13-17 foretells that Arabs would be driven into flight by the Assyrians, or that that populous country should be turned into a desolate wilderness. It has nothing to do with Badr.
@@JesusisaMuslim I've completely debunked your claims mate.. Your lies are exposed. Without lies, Islam dies.
@@JesusisaMuslim Isiah is not part of any of allahs raveled scriptures ie. quran, torah or gospels, hence he is not islamic prophet. Isiah is a jewish prophet who is mentioned in the hebrew bible of jews. Muslims have to trust the jewish scriptures to believe in Isiah.
Dedan (now part of Al-'Ula, Saudi Arabia) was an oasis and city-state of north-western Arabia. The people of Dedan are called Dedanim or Dedanites. Dedan is also the name of the son of Raamah and the son of Jokshan. It is 300kms north of Medina, whereas Badr is 100Kms sout-west of Medina, between Mecca & Medina.
Kedar is biblical name of arab tribe in Southern Jordan and North-west Arabia. Kedar is one of Ishmael’s sons (Gen 25:13; 1 Chron 1:29), and the tribe of Kedar are his descendants.
@@JesusisaMuslim isiah is not an islamic prophet since he is never mentioned in Quran. Book of isaiah is part of Jewish scriptures..
Isaiah has nothing to do with Islam, but Muslims are desperate to claim him to justify the falsehoods on which Islam is built. Badr has nothing to do isiahs prophesy..even the geographical location is completely wrong..
Subhanallah! Inshallah by then end of 2022, Muhammed will be like Santa Clause for the Muslims - Jizakallah!
Lol
Alhamdulliah brother 😅😅😅
Shukranlillah!
Atleast, Santa 🎅 claus was the real person with a real name St. Nicholas.
Your confirming my worst fears about Santa.
Thanks T.A loving your work, cant get enough of that true knowledge keep, them coming.
Just in time for Ramadan, 2022! Perfect timing!
A nice one, again!
New to your channel. Subscribed. Thanks for the work you do 🙏
Thomas is exposing in his videos so many cover-ups in Islam that its hard to believe how Arabs made the Siras to explain the Quran by inventing new meaning to it,Unbelievable how much effort has been put to create a character biography of a person...Thanks Thomas for all your efforts in explaining these.
@@JesusisaMuslim Islam is a cleverly cooked up religion, their is no evidence of mecca medina before 8th century, the character of Muhammed is invented in 8th to 9th centuries...Islam is a total fake religion after studying it for 2 years i understand this fact.
@@JesusisaMuslim Islam and quran have been written and rewritten so many times that their is no count for that.
I suspect the selling of the Sira and Hadith collections was a motivating factor. Remember in those days they didn't have Netflix or Amazon Prime. Religious figures and their stories were the biggest show in town.
@@JesusisaMuslim Isl am is an obscure and fabricated cult
@@JesusisaMuslim Yep 👍🏼 you are right about one thing Safraz.. Islam ☪️ is pure .. Pure Bullshit .. From beginning to end a totally fabricated fantasy fiction..
Thanks for the stunning explanation - may the Lord richly bless you and yours.
Thomas, your work worths at least one doctoral thesis. 👍
This is going to be very interesting, thank you Thomas, I think you've mentioned before that the stories of Mohammad were produced to make sense of the Abbasid Koran/Korans?
Also I like the references you put down, but for me personally I would find it useful if you did a summary of the main points, the very best Simon
No news from Thomas?
This is a gem 🤝🙏
I love you name but we as Christians are not "Abd al Masih" or slaves of Christ, we are sons of God in Messiah Yeshua name or "Ibn Yahweh" 🙏
I've been really enjoying this series, it really makes a compelling case, confident enough that I'm starting to try it out on people. Knowing how the world works I know that on any given day someone can come along and ask a question that I don't have an answer for, for instance: 'Who is it then buried under the Green Dome?'
Christians have an answer for an empty tomb, but in theory Muslims should be able to produce Muhamad-II's DNA, while Thomas is suggesting we should find an empty tomb.
Interesting.
What made me understand what you are arguing in the video was again Gabriel Said Reynolds book, the quran and its Biblical subtext.
My mind cought the problem when reading the case study of surah 11 verse 69 to 72. Professor reynolds clearly explains that all the stories provided to expalin the verses grow over time in detials and are mutually exclusive to each other. This implied that all of them were independent traditions of exegesis whit no foundation.
the fact that each explanation (reynolds numbered 12 traditions) had its own isnad and trasmitted clearly points to the fact that someone backprojected the traditions back in time down to "muhammad" to support his own position.
Once I finised to read that chapter my mind suddently recalculated all Islam and made me clear that muhammad came from exegesis mixed with Biblical traditions and arab history.
I only disagree with you that the quran is related to anti-thrinitarianism.
I think the quran is simply pure forgery to take control of the arab leaders
Does Reynolds deny that Mohamed existed? The answer is no? Does je deny that Mohamed didn't exist and islam didn't come from the Hijaz? The answer is no.
There is million times more historical evidence for Mohamed than for Jesus and Paul combined.
Once again Thanks Thomas for this livestream.You are spot on with your information and to surmise I would say a lot of what has crystallized today as Islam is more of "Revisionism "and much more is made of the so called prophet of Islam.Keep up the good work.
There is million times more historical evidence for Mohamed than for Jesus and Paul combined.
@@alonzoharris6730 Oh serrrriously, nice try.And why is Paul a thorn in the side of Abdoooools???
I wonder as to why a sovereign allah had to wait for 610 years later to re- vamp his word...nice Hikmah even this word is plagiarized from the Hebrew Hokmah....Lol
Enjjjoy your feasting ya Akhi.
@@julietabraham476
Can you show me a contemporary non Christian source of Paul?
You claim that he was an important figure who had jurisdiction in Damascus to persecute Christians.
Can you show me a Jewish or Roman source?
@@alonzoharris6730 Can you show me any evidence from the 7th century about Mecca?
You avoid questions on Islam??? but attack Christianity because you have no defense for your embellished, fabricated revisionist Deen.
@@JesusisaMuslim Yeah so why don't you Abdool Scholiars ...not Scholars exegete the book after 610 years....Lol
Go fix the holes in your S.I.N. first.Stop your copy paste from abdoolian websites, use your logic, no you can't because you have to be compliant to Sura 5: 101.You guys can't defend your book so you look to the Bible to bail you out....shameful.
Do you know Al Fadi & Jay Smith?
RUclips:
Cira International & Pfander Films
Or Lloyd De Jongh, also on RUclips by his name?
G. Sales translates it as "I am going to place a substitute on earth"
A cleverly and ruthlessly invented biography of prophet Muhammed to replace Jesus the original Muhammed...Arabs did this in 200-300 years.
If only Islam critically analyzed the Quran the same as they try to do to the Bible.
Islamic scholars have been studying every word of the Quran for 1400 years now and producing interpretations, and giving sermons, just as Jewish and Christian scholars have always done. The Quran is no different from the scriptures, apocryphal stories and pseudo-gospels that came before it. Out of the mouths of man, recited and written down by the hands of men and later compiled and edited by yet other men. 😁
@@davidzack8735 every book is wrriten in the earth only, books dont drop from heaven, only rains do...but we as Christians dont claim that Bible is already present in heaven as a tablet like muslims claim, Bible was written by 40 diffrent people during 1500 years of Jewish History, under the Inspiration of Holy Spirit...every word in the Bible is not the word of God, prophets speak,kings speak,common people speak there, and then God also speaks...the overall message and inspiration is from God, not the text or letter of the Bible itself.
@@yakovmatityahu
You must be a joker. Not a single book in your bible is written by a prophet.
@@yakovmatityahu Fun fact. The Old Testament is a collection of myths and legends and histories of the Jewish people written down over thousands of years. The New Testament contains four gospels which are four different accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ written by four different men. I never tire of trying to explain that to Muslims but it's no good. They have been accusing the Bible of 'corruption' for 1400 years now because they think we think it is the actual Word of God, as they believe their Quran to be the actual Word of the God of the Kabah. How mad is that? 😁
@@davidzack8735
God Of the kabah 😂 how dumb is that
Again a great video! thanks a lot. Grüße aus Wien!
Thanks Thomas 😊 God bless you 🙏
Outstanding, as usual. In the light of your research, I have been wondering about the standard narrative surrounding the collection of the Hadith. Do you think that the Hadith were collected from folk tales and 90% were discarded? Or do you think they were mostly created and the story about their collection is just that, a story?
Thankyou Thomas
OUR questions to Muslims remain unanswered
All these biographies are too late
Where is the early Muslims communities in the7th century
We see Muhammed had a scribe known as Sayyid Ibn thabi
Why did he not write the biography ?but it took 130 yrs until itis written by a man who is from all the way to the north
The earliest written biography of the prophet was that of Ibn Ishaq who used his father's and grandfather's notes and stories of Muhammad and his companions. Ibn Ishaq's grandfather was a Christian slave taken to Medina who became a Quran and history reciter during the time of Khalid b al-Walid. Saying Ibn Ishaq's biography is sheer invention and Muhammad never existed is like saying to an English person today that you don't believe anything handed down from their grandfather and his father before him about the Boer War. 😁
Have you even bothered to read Guillaume's scholarly introduction to Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah? Go read the list of names of the earliest maghazi writers that Ibn Ishaq got his information from before making any more ignorant statements, please. 😁
@@davidzack8735 where are those manuscripts you fool?any fragments of those works?
@@davidzack8735 where are those manuscripts you fool?any fragments of those works?
@@johnseventhday9145 Fun fact. Manuscripts are by their nature PERISHABLE, fool. The only way we have the full text of Caesar's Gallic Wars surviving over 2000 years is by endless recopying until the invention of printing. Go to channel Useful Charts Oldest Manuscripts of the Bible. It explains such facts for people like you. 😁
Ich habe einige Bücher von Karlheinz Ohlig gelesen.
Von daher erfahre ich hier nichts wirklich Neues.
Aber: es ist so erfrischend, es einmal zu hören und zu wissen, dass man nicht alleine ist.
Also: Bitte so weiter machen!!!
Which books can you tell??? Are those available in English?
@@yakovmatityahu I have no idea if they are available in English.
You may want to google for "Karl-Heinz Ohlig" and "Christoph Luxenberg"
@@yakovmatityahu It seems he has a German and an English book on the same topic (the titles are slightly different, but same topic, so that might be a translation).
@@hypnosecoachinghombach7517 Ohk thanks for the information, btw i am planning to buy Luxemborg book Syro Aramaic reading of Quran, i will check for books from karl, thanks again.
@@meusisto do you mean luxemborg or Karl?
It is clear that the words "ansar" (ie helpers or allies) and "nasara" (translated as "christians" in quran) have exactly the same arabic trilitteral root of 3 letters: n-s-r ن ص ر
which means to help.
So the so-called "ansar" (helpers) from Medina (yathrib) were in fact "nasara" ie christians (but they were anti-trinitarian christians and therefore considered as heretics within byzantine empire)
The Hebrew equivalent "nasar" is translated in the Old Testament as "watchmen"
There is a Quran by G. Sales. He translates 2:88 as "Our hearts are uncircumcised". What do you think about this?
uncircumcised = closed
So what?
@@Oxygen11115 So what is a rude response.
@@martinnyirenda2525
Why do you pick that one?
@@alonzoharris6730 Why did I pick that Quran? I have a few English Qurans and I was following the presentation by Thomas and found G. Sales Translation fascinating as it had different words from others. Hope i responded correctly to your question
Hi Thomas, big fan from Portugal. I believe there was a man given the title "Muhammad", a war lord that claimed at some point prophethood and become a sort of a king, or, the other way around. So my question is: how can we explain the non muslim sources that speak of a "prophet among the arabs"? What about its family relations? Yes, i dont believe these people religion was "islamic", rather some kind of a messianic judaic sect, but are you going to adress that? Keep up the good work!!!
At some point, I'll get into the Christin sources. Be assured that they're nowhere near as conclusive as they're made out to be.
@@TAlexander the non muslim sources are critical to know what was happening, so yes, good news.
@@dragaoastro69
The religion islam is clearly mentioned in the dome of the rock.
There is no need to twist history.
@@alonzoharris6730 the Dome comes much later than the life and suposed revelations of "muhammad". Islam is a latter construction and the sources seem to indicate that.
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The sources don't seem to indicate that. We have Quranic manuscripts from the time of the prophet.
These are the earliest sources.
Try to do the same for Jesus or for any other prophet.
There is million times more historical evidence for Mohamed than for Jesus and Paul combined.
I'm following with great interest your videos and i would love to know your thoughts about the reasons for the choice of the actual Mecca as a sanctuary. And also what you know and think about Medina, that you said in some other video that was originally a christian sanctuary, but you didn't give details about that claim.
Thank you for your videos! Keep up this good work!
Medina was a Christian sanctuary, i also want to see the evidence for the same.
you can't use a city which is known/has known history when you make things up. to make a fake story about a fake Prophet you need to start in a EMTY PLACE like mecca.
Great work.
Wunderbar. Very informative
Yeahhhh..i wish you put as much effort to learn about Paul or Saul of Tarsus..
G. Sales translates it as "...........that other third goddess"
The story of the Satanic verses rings true, because of the negative effect it had. When Muhammad told the Meccans that the three goddesses could be intermediaries with Allah, all the Meccans prostrated themselves in unity with the Muslims. When Muhammad rescinded the statement the next day, it was the final straw for the Meccans. It led to the boycott of his two family tribes and to their near starvation. It also explains why at Badr the Muslims wreaked such atrocities on the fleeing and captured Meccans. Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah is essential reading. He gives a clear, short and concise account of the events of the battle. Then and only then does he say what people said later about seeing angels, etc. He always differentiates clearly what he believes to be true and what he has been told by others but regards as possibly exaggeration or fantasy or untruth.
Great presentation!
Muhajireens and Ansars, can represent the arabs and christians, but also in a way it could be the difference based on culture, like those muhajireens refer to those who travel or migrate as required and Ansars as those who settled in some place for long, both have different cultures.
May be there were originally a book with some verses not understood by the people, so they reinserted some other verses as explanations or to justify those as per their understanding. Verse 22/52 refers to some general understanding about past prophets and their teachings got corrupted, but they take that to be related with the current prophet and inserted this 53 verse.
9:26
Yes I think we do, if you read Al Tabari volume VI page 107 and onwards theres a context to verse 19-20.
Muhammed wanted the pagans to his side, but years later he changed his mind and realized what he had done, therefore saying satan had cast words on his tongue.
From where I sit it seems that Muhammad is the so called unholy spirit of Islam who gives understanding and insight to the quran.
exactly
Excellent analysis of the Quran legitimacy
Hallo Thomas vielen Dank für Deine Arbeit ! Ein Gespräch mit Christian Prince zusammen währe mal sehr interessant ! Vielleicht sprecht Ihr ja mal miteinander, euer beider Wissen würde in einem gemeinsamen Video einschlagen wie eine....... in der Islamischen Welt! Desto mehr Menschen von dieser Sekte befreit werden desto besser ! Danke
Very clear and very helpful explanation. Thanks!
Could you maybe also illustrate the ‘Sirah-Con’ job done to systematize things with the following, please?
I have a hunch it’s a political mandate meant for the newly unified Arabs.
“…This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your [i.e. Arabs’] religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you [Arabs!] Islam as your religion.” (al-Maida, 3) (Tirmidhi, Tafsir, 5/3043)
Thank you 🙏
Iblis was never like what it says in Quran , .
and his name is not Iblis either …
Is the life of Muhammad a way to understand the Quran (literary analysis based on facts of the author's life)? Or is a life of Muhammad constructed to explain unclear passages of the Quran (myth building)? I think this is what Thomas is suggesting are opposing possibilities for the origin of the texts of the Sira we have, with the latter being the truth.
Once the Sira took an official form in the early 9th Century, the process would have reversed in Islamic experience, with the canonical biographies of Hisham and Tabari used as scripture themselves to further elucidate the text of the Quran, in a way closer to the former, literary analysis method. Exegetical reasoning.
I suppose there could be some layers here. For instance, once Muhammad II began to appear, presumably initially in the late 7th or early 8th Centuries as an Arab preacher of anti-trinitarian Christianity, curiosity around this now key personage would have stimulated the creation of narratives about him. These early narratives would have taken on scriptural significance as the centrality of this preacher/prophet figure grew. Once that prophet was strongly embedded, further myth-making could be used to explain even more, such as the example's given by Thomas regarding the tricky passage about the souls in hell or the rejection by the Jews. These examples seem to presuppose the audience's knowledge of a Prophet Muhammad and add new tales to his life. So this would seem to argue for layers of myth-making.
Another point seems strange in the SIN here: the complete loss of early Siras from the 7th and early 8th Centuries. Why is it that the SIN is replete with lists of supposed biographers but none of their works survive at all, even in fragments? Could it be that these early biographers did exist but were destroyed because they did not fit the later narrative? After all, the Arab Empire from the 7th Century had vast resources with which to preserve writings. And the Abbasids specifically dedicated themselves to learning and books. How have no texts survived? Perhaps, as the Hadith point out Uthman did with Quran variants, contradicting biographies were actively destroyed?
Fun fact. How do we have the text of Caesar's Gallic Wars today? Manuscripts are by their nature PERISHABLE, dumbo. Caesar's words survived for 1500 years until the invention of printing by being COPIED by scholars and RECOPIED over generations. In the same way, Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, the result of the written work of his father and his grandfather before him and that of early maghazi writers suvived because Ibn Ishaq read it out and dictated it to over a DOZEN pupils including Ibn Hisham. Go to channel Useful Charts Oldest Manuscripts of the Bible. It explains the process for people like you. 😁
@@davidzack8735 So we have no fragments of papyri dating from the 2nd century of the books of the New Testament? And that was a time when the Christian movement was a minor factor in Roman life, not having access to the best resources for book making. Not so the Arab Empire, disposing of essentially endless resources to make books. Where are the fragments from the earliest Sira? Why do none exist?
And why would you compare to the Gallic Wars? That text is some 750 years older than the Siras we're talking about would be. Logically, it is far less likely such much older manuscripts, even in fragmentary form, would survive, just from the standpoint of the passage of time. In addition, the Gallic Wars was of far less interest than the Sira of Muhammad, with millions of believers holding it as sacred scripture. The desire to preserve such texts would certainly have been greater. And the number of original copies would seemingly also have been far greater: there was no need for so many copies of the Gallic Wars, while the Sira of Muhammad would have been a valued text by many communities, presumably.
The Muslim tradition of isnad also would seem to bring into question the absence of manuscripts. Clearly, Muslims have been extremely concerned with the propriety of transmission. Why would they have not carefully preserved manuscripts that came from the original sources?
@@charlesiragui2473 You just have not grasped the fundamental point, have you? Go to Useful Charts channel post on the oldest manuscripts of Bible. Try ro grasp the concept that manuscripts are PERISHABLE by nature, OK? That is the miracle of the unique Dead Sea Scrolls. Understand? The fact that all the manuscipts we have of ancient texts are copies of copies of eternal copies is a historical fact.
@@davidzack8735 No, I do not understand your point. The value of a manuscript rises as it is closer in time to the presumed but missing original source text. What part of this are you not seeing?
Urwa ibn al Zubayr is said to have written letters concerning the biography of Muhammad. He is said to have died in 713. We have no original or copies of these letters. All we have are copies of later Siras of Hisam and Tabari. They are said to have sourced their Siras from previous Sira authors, such as Urwa ibn al Zubayr. So what we do have are copies (to your point I think) of a work by an author who is not the source of the details of the biography of Muhammad.
@@charlesiragui2473 You do not see my point because you have obviously not gone to Useful Charts channel post on the oldest manuscipts of the Bible. It explains in easy-to-understand sentences how rare it is to find ancient manuscripts or even tiny fragments of ancient manuscripts. How thick do you have to be to not understand that the earliest writings were done on parchment or animal skin and are PERISHABLE and the only way the contents could be preserved was by COPYING them! 🤣
Thomas, hast du ein paar links über Mohammed I, das würde mich sehr interessieren, Grüße
You are 100% incorrect, sura 9:100, Emigrants is Muhajirn, which is plural of muhajir, meaning “one who flee from or forsake his home, page 114 in the dictionary of the Holy Quran, which is Classical Arabic. Nasir, meaning one who helps.
How does muhajjir not refer to immigrants? the words literal translation is immigrant. Could you please explain?
Why didn't you include Jesus in the same list of fictional characters?
Ok the satanic verses are about how the universal interacts with the temporal or god acts in history. God gives revelation to a prophet and the prophet interprets the message and brings it to the people but when this happens each prophet corrupts his message to better please this listeners. This is actually one of the most important religious concepts in the Koran or even in western religion. If one can understand the Koran, Christian and Jewish scriptures like this you will come to fundamentally know God in a way that is deeper than any one of these religions alone.
According to the Biblical book Songs of Solomon, the covenant was transferred from the דּוֹדִֽים dwdym (David's people or the Jews - Songs 5:1) to the מַחֲּמַדִּים mhmdyim (Muhammad's people - Songs 5:16). (Both words are Hebrew masculine, plural NOUNS which the Christian translators have rendered as the adjective, lovely in their translations to hide the transfer of the covenant.). The Hebrew plural, masculine nloun suffix 'ym' is used to denote the people of the nation to which the proper noun refers as in מּוֹאָבִים (Moabym or Moabites), Ammonites or Amonym עַמֹּנִים, Egyptians or Musrym מִּצְרִים, Chaldeans or Chasidym כַּשְׂדִּים, Lydians or Lydym לוּדִים etc. The words mhmdym and dwdym are unique and only used once each in the entire Bible. So, one expects the translation to also be unique. The words dwdym and mhmdym constitute a synonymous parallelism which references the covenant relationship between these 2 peoples. The dwdym or Jews were the last ancient Semitic people to hold this covenant before it was transferred to the mhmdym or the Muslims who were and are Muhammad's people. In addition, the Palestinians are the original Jews as they carry the haplotype J1c3d. The Ashkenazi who control Palestine are not Semites. So, Palestinians, the native inhabitants for more than 5000 years, are the rightful owners of Palestine according to history, genetics and the bible.
The control of the land of Israel was based on the contingency that those bound by the covenant would obey the law (Torah) and worship the One, True God. According to the Bible, the Jews failed to abide by the covenant conditions. The last straw was when they attempted to murder the Prophet, Jesus (as). Matthew 21:43 has Jesus declare: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." So, it is clear that Jesus confirmed the prophecy in Songs 5 and the covenant was taken from the dwdym (David's people) and given to the mhmdym (Muhammad's people). The Mhmdym (Muslims) fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Jews when they created an empire that stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. The Mhmdym also rebuilt the former temple as Masjid Al Aqsa on the site which the Christian had deliberately defiled to dishonor the Jews and their god, Yhwh.
Songs is an allegory with many different levels of meaning. The poem is symbolic. The groom is symbolic of the king who ruled Judah, and who was a member of the dwdym or David's people. The bride represents the people of the covenant. The love between the spouses represents the covenant. Dwdym (David's people) represents the original people of the covenant or Jews. The Mhmdym represent the people of Muhammad to whom the covenant is transferred when the bride addresses her groom as Muhammadim or the people of Muhammad.. The bride, who is symbolic of the people of the covenant, switched her allegiance from the king who was both the ruler of and a member of the dwdym (David's people) to the Muhammadim (Muhammad's people) because the Muhammadim were the recipients of the new covenant. The covenant was transferred to the Mhmdym because the Jews rejected Jesus and his message. This new covenant was the means through which Allah (swt) made Muhammad the founder of a nation whose empire stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. The achievements of the Muhammadim fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Hebrews. Songs is a prophecy that the Law or Torah was to be expressed through a covenant between the deity and the people who were committed to the purified Torah which became known as the Shariah, the law or Torah of the Muslim ummah. Allah's (swt) promises are always true, Subhanallah.
The Qur'an in the Qur'an refers to the Law of Moses as amended by the Chist...
You were doing good but made just one mistake in the end muhammad said those were satanic verses only after 8 years even though he was receiving quran in those 8 years allah didn't try to change it he only changed it when a jew asked him about his hypocritical polytheism under the disguise of monotheism please do note this point.
This is a much better choice than having the verses "revealed" to someone. After all, in islam Muhammad is the Forger.
In the hadith, every time Muhammad sees the need, he just makes up a verse from allah. His soldiers want to rape rightly married women, what to do? He comes up with a verse saying that his allah allows any women as booty, even if the husband converted (any pressure to do?) to the invasor's religion.
Now, if the quran comes first, then we simply have sincere and innocent fictional writers doing their job of imagining an explanation to something already meaningless because already out of context.
It's clear that Proto-Qoran is a christian text. For example in Surat al Qadr, when "Allah" says:
تَنَزَّلُ ٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةُ وَٱلرُّوحُ فِيهَا بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِم مِّن كُلِّ أَمْرٍۢ
That night the angels and the ˹holy˺ spirit descend (Jibreel), by the permission of their Lord, for every ˹decreed˺ matter.
If Jibriil is the Holy Spirit and not an angel? Why the Qoran stays in a christian doctrine, separating "Angels" and "Ruh" (Jibriil)?? Does is not Jibriil and angel? Why you separate him from "Malaika" -angels-.
It's because in the begining the text said: And Descend the Angels (included Jibriil) and the Holy Spirit (Christian Concept).
Jibriel looks like satan according to the hadiths.
In Sahih Bukhari 3 it was waraqa who said it was an angel.
Muhammad was very scared.
Let the dead bury their dead
Here comes Alfonso, he who warships four gods, to deny the koranus doesn't make any sense.
4 gods?
@@meusisto Allah prays to his god, Muhammed.
@@fantasia55 May you tell me more about it?
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Using critical theory against Muhammed's story won't lead to anything good.
Truth is always good
Where is Alonzo Harris? He can't comment. He has already been bowled out.
Let sleeping dogs lie.
Guys, please don't give importance to trolls. His usual tactic is to make a comment to instigate Christians to try and divert from the topic of the video because he usually doesn't have enough knowledge on it.
There is millions time more historical evidence for Mohamed than for Jesus and Paul combined.
@@alonzoharris6730 Show us the evidence. There is not one eyewitness account for the demon Jibril.
Muhammad was a created character. There is more evidence for Harry Potter than Muhammad.
@@alonzoharris6730 You can't even spell Muhammad.
There is enormous historical evidence for Paul. Not all of his travels were recorded in the NT. There is evidence that Pauls last journey was as far as Spain. Obviously Paul could not record his last journey as he died. It is believed that Paul visited the Messianic believers in Catalonia. We have evidence of the Catalan church as the copies of the 1st century Catalan Hebrew gospels were hidden for years during the persecution by the Romans and later during the Inquisition. Copies of the Catalan gospels were hidden in Columbus.
There is so much historical evidence of Jesus that I am not even going into it.
Jesus appears to people today and still heals the sick.
*NO TRINITY*
*Matthew* *7: 13,14*
*14 Go in through the narrow gate; for WIDE is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth unto DESTRUCTION, and MANY are they which go in thereon.14 For the gate is NARROW, and the strait is the way, which leadeth unto LIFE, and FEW there be that find it.*
*A.* *Timothy* *2: 4,5*
*4 GOD wants all people to be saved and to know the TRUTH. 5 For there is one GOD, and one MEDITATOR between GOD and men, the MAN CHRIST JESUS;*
*Revelation of John* *3:14*
*14 And unto the angel of the church in Laodicea write; Thus saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness. the beginning of the CREATION of GOD.*
"ARE MANY" who will follow the path of loss but "A FEW" will find the narrow gate.
Mattew 7:13
John 3:13 (Jesus said)No one ascended into heaven. but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which was from the heaven.
Why do we grow old and die?
GOD did not want humans to die. Our first parents, Adam and Eve, were created with a perfect mind and body.They could still be alive today.This is clear from what God said to Adam about a tree growing in the garden of Eden.
God said to Adam:“The day you eat [from the tree] you will surely die.” Genesis 2:17. This command would have been meaningless if Adam had been created to grow old and die. Adam knew that if he did not eat from that tree, he would not die.
GOD'S PURPOSE WAS NOT THAT PEOPLE DIE.
God said to Adam:"Eat your bread with the sweat of your brow until you return to the ground from where you were taken.for you were dust and you will become dust. ”
Genesis 3: 17-19
As a result,“all the days of Adam's life were nine hundred and thirty years and he died.”Genesis 5: 5. Adam did not go to heaven or hell.Or live in a spiritual realm.
What is the Resurrection?
The Bible's answer
In the Bible,the Greek word translated "resurrection" means "to stand" or "to restore." The resurrected person is resurrected from the dead and is the same person who was before. 1 Corinthians 15:12, 13.
It is true that the word "resurrection" is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures,which are known as the Old Testament, but the promise of resurrection is there.For example,through the prophet Hosea,God promised:“I will rescue them from the hand of the grave, and I will rescue them from death.” Hosea 13:14; Job 14: 13-15; Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12: 2, 13.
Where will people be resurrected? Some people will be resurrected to live in heaven.There they will reign with Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 5: 1; Revelation 5: 9, 10.The Bible calls this resurrection "the first resurrection" and the word "first" makes it clear that there will be another resurrection. Revelation 20: 6 That other resurrection will be for the living on paradise earth, and most of the dead will be resurrected in this way.
Psalm 37:29.
How are the dead raised?God gave Jesus the power to resurrect the dead. John 11:25. Jesus will bring to life “all those in the memorial tombs,” each with his own personality, attributes, and memories.
John 5:28, 29.
Some will be resurrected to live in heaven, while others will be resurrected to live on paradise earth with perfect and healthy bodies. Isaiah 33:24; 35: 5, 6. 1 Corinthians 15: 42-44, 50
They multiply priests and saints with sad faces pile up, perform miracles,cast out demons.But Jesus said,The tree is known by its fruit.
MATTHEW
7: 21-23:
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day,'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,and cast out demons in your name,and did many miracles in your name?'23 Then i will tell them plainly that I did not know you at all.Get away from me, you workers of iniquity.
Matthew 7: 15-20
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 By their fruits ye shall know them.Do they gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles?17 So every good tree bringeth forth good fruit;and an evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.20 Ye shall know them by their fruits.
B.LETTER TO CORINTHIANS
11: 13-15:
13 For such are the apostles, liars, deceitful workers, impersonating the apostles of Christ.14 And it is not surprising. because Satan also takes the form of a bright angel.15 Wherefore, it is not a great thing that his ministers should be likened unto the ministers of righteousness. Their end will be in proportion to their deeds.
4: 4. In whom is the god of this world?
(Satan) blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the light of the glory of the gospel of Christ might not shine upon them, which is the image of God.
Eternal life is a free gift from God. The eternal punishment is not righteousness because how many years can a human beeing live at most?God is Love
Bible answers
Ecclesiastes 3:19,20
19 for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals,they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies, and they all have but one life. So man has no superiority over animals,(No additional soul. Only have additional knowlege,thinking,talking,etc...)verything is futile. 20 All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust.
John 5:28,29
28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
Psalm 37:29
it's clear
A. LETTER TO TIMOTHY 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus!
Mattew 24:36
36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows,neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.
*NO TRINITY*
*John* *20:17*
17 *Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.*
*JOHN* *6:38*
*(Jesus said)*
38 *For I came down from heaven, not to do mine OWN will, but the will of HIM that sent me.*
*John* *14:28*
28 *Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.*
*Matthew* *20:23*
23 *And HE saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of MY cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not MINE to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my FATHER.*
*John* *5:30*
30 *I can of MINE own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not MINE own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent ME:*
*John* *17:20**-23*
*(ONE IN GLORY)*
20 *Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on ME through their word; 21 That they all may be ONE; as THOU, FATHER, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be ONE in US: that the world may believe that THOU hast sent ME. 22 And the glory which thou gavest ME, I have given them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE: 23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be made perfect in ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent ME, and hast loved THEM, as THOU hast loved ME:*
TRINITY ARE FALSE TEACHINGS only thrue Lord God is *JEHOVAH* (the Father)and his first creation is *JESUS CHRIST*(the Son) everything else created by *JESUS*
more scripture prooves *NO TRINITY*
Hey, Thomas. When did Muhammad 1 begin? So far you have not provided any evidence whatsoever that the epithet 'Muhammad' was regularly and constantly applied to Jesus in any form between 1AD and 610AD (when the historical Muhammad came along claiming that the ancient moon god of the Kabah was the same god as in the Bible). Just asking. 😁
Mohammed means 'blessed one' which is a title used for Jesus ,‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord' Matthew 23:39
@@hetrodoxly1203 Actually 'Muhammad' means the Praised One, not the Blessed One. And that passage in Matthew is not translated as 'Muhammad' in any Arabic Bible, is it? 😁
I have provided evidence. It's even in the Bible itself. Muhammad is the Arabic translation of the Greek word Eulogēménos or the Latin word Benedictus, i.e. praised/blessed be. It has been applied to Jesus very early on.
@@TAlexander link?
@@davidzack8735 There's no Arabic bible early enough, Blessed is commonly used when referring to Mohammed.
Thomas, I think this is by far the most bizarre and weakest argument in all your videos. Again, I think the thesis is at least somewhat persuasive, but what you are doing with the "criteria of embarrassment" is not a good argument. Islamic apostacy is HEAVILY fueled by these embarrassing accounts. You are mind-reading redactors and this kind of process is pure speculation which can create a house of cards. "No historian believes such and such." How does this matter? Scholarship needs to be demystified. dismissal of supernatural elements is entirely unobjective, just as it is unobjective to dismiss "fanciful" accounts simply on the basis of enlightenment skepticism. This is a dead end. There is no objective basis for anything going down this road. I'm not making an argument for Islam. Islam is false. I'm simply arguing with you about your methods and the methods of higher critics. These methods are not baseless but they are weak and completely fraught with arbitrary skepticism and bias. Everything man does is arbitrary without an ultimate source by which to measure truth by.
Hope you get the guts and chance to go up on a stage debating moslem scholars. Otherwise this is all nothing but nonsense.
give on moslem scholar who isnt a complete Botato
Doing Quranic exegesis by telling stories that develop into the Sira and then the Hadith? They're still doing it until today 🤣🤣🤣. Seriously, it sounds like adopting the rabbinic method of teaching scriptural principles in the Talmud.
true
In Surah Tariq, Allah mentions a piercing, whole boring star that emits sound.
بِسۡمِ اللهِ الرَّحۡمٰنِ الرَّحِيۡمِ
وَالسَّمَآءِ وَالطَّارِقِۙ
وَمَاۤ اَدۡرٰٮكَ مَا الطَّارِقُۙ
النَّجۡمُ الثَّاقِبُۙ
"By the sky and the Tariq. And what will explain the Tariq. It is a hole boring star."
The word tariq طرق means piercer and najm ٱلنَّجْمُ means star and thaqib ثقب means to bore a hole. Look it up in the dictionary. Tariq طرق has many meanings and one of them is 'to penetrate'. The primary meaning of thaqib ثقب is 'to bore or drill a hole." The meaning of طرق 'to penetrate' is consistent with the meaning of ثقب "to bore or drill a hole.' Tariq also means 'to knock or bang', which is also consistent with the word tariq meaning a rotating black hole that emits sound waves. According to NASA:
Sept. 9, 2003: Astronomers using NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory have found, for the first time, sound waves from a supermassive black hole. The “note” is the deepest ever detected from any object in our Universe. The tremendous amounts of energy carried by these sound waves may solve a longstanding problem in astrophysics.
The black hole resides in the Perseus cluster of galaxies located 250 million light years from Earth. In 2002, astronomers obtained a deep Chandra observation that shows ripples in the gas filling the cluster. These ripples are evidence for sound waves that have traveled hundreds of thousands of light years away from the cluster’s central black hole.
“The Perseus sound waves are much more than just an interesting form of black hole acoustics,” says Steve Allen, of the Institute of Astronomy and a co-investigator in the research. “These sound waves may be the key in figuring out how galaxy clusters, the largest structures in the Universe, grow.”
So, Tariq is a rotating black hole that emits sound waves. This rotating, sound emitting black hole is the black hole at the center of our Milky Way galaxy. According to Wikipedia: '... the Milky Way has a supermassive black hole in its Galactic Center..." Truly the Quran is a miracle.
Come on, IT DOES NOT talk about astronomy.
Surah 27 DOES NOT talk about the scientific fact that ants can communicate, and so on.
The Quran DOES NOT tell that the earth is round like an ostrich egg, that iron comes from heaven, and so on.
You've been lied by modern scholars and their propaganda machine...
What the Quran tells about the stars is that they are lamps put as decoration in the lower heaven, and the shooting stars are missiles aimed at the devils...
@@marc3dartist601 Read the Arabic. I translated the Arabic word for word instead of substituting words in English which 'explain' the words in Arabic. Look up each word and you will see that the translation in this post is totally in line with the definitions of these words in any Arabic Dictionary. The Piercer (tariq), according to this verse is literally a 'hole boring star'. The only interpretation that makes sense is that Tariq/the Piercer is the galaxy centered black hole of our Milky Way galaxy. There is not other explanation available.
@@marc3dartist601 As for ants communicating: "Communication between individuals is essential in any organized society, and for ants - whose colonies have been known to contain as many as 306 million worker ants - this is no different. However, whereas human societies most notably use sound, sight, and touch to communicate between individuals, ant societies also make great use of chemical signals called pheromones.
Ants use pheromones in a number of different ways, such as releasing ‘danger’ pheromones upon death to alert nearby ants, or to create chemical trails from their nest to promising food sources. Other ants in the colony can use their antennas to detect these pheromones and respond accordingly."
sciencenode.org/feature/understanding-chemical-communication-in-ant-societies.php
Quran is always correct.
@@hollyaldahir4910 Yes, good scientific explanation, but too many words. Nothing in the Quran refers to that.
It simply say that the ants saw Solomon and his army and one said: ''quick, go to our dwelling or Solomon army will crush us...'' Nothing more.
Funny story, but nothing to do with all the scientific observation.
@@marc3dartist601 Yes, the ants communicated to one another when they sensed the Solomon's marching army: The army may have habitually used this route and the ants immediately reacted. "Ants employ vibrations to produce sounds that are heard by ants and this hearing behavior is important when searching for food and when alarm signals are produced that signify some sort of danger.
Ant sounds vary by ant groups and include some ants that produce sounds by stridulation, which is defined as the act of producing sound by rubbing together certain body parts. These ants use their gaster, the distended part of their abdomen located behind the ant’s pedicel and their mandibles to produce sounds used to communicate with colony members or with other species of ants.
These behaviors produce ground vibrations that are detected by the ant’s subgenual organ, which is located below the ant’s femur and tibia leg joint.
Warning Signals
Other ant species possess the behavior of drumming their abdomen on the substrate of the ant nest which creates an alarm response that stimulates other ants to drum their abdomens. This communicates a warning alarm that signals danger throughout the entire nest.
So, while ants use chemical pheromones and physical touch to stimulate or direct behavior, they also use hearing to incite required behavioral protection responses designed to protect their colony."
BTW, this is a story circulated by the Jewish community in the Arabian Peninsula. Talking animals are a biblical phenomena where there is a talking snake and a talking donkey.
www.orkin.com/pests/ants/can-ants-hear
So what? The hereditary line simply continued through Muhammad's real family: daughter Fatima married to his cousin Ali and their sons Hassan and Hussein. 😁
full of bs
nonsense article...
World peace starts from free strong PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Free palestine from islam ?
catholic created islam
that is the actual reason but we need to connect the dots for others to also believe the same i know this is the papacies deception the way the research is progressing seems to highly indicate it.
absurd
@@fantasia55 Nope it isn't absurd the more we dig in this probability of the papacy inventing islam is getting stronger.
@@johnseventhday9145 Popes had zero influence over 7th century Arabia.
You're saying that the process was similar to euhemerisation.
on Edit.The criterion of embarrassment is a false argument in so many ways
Great work.