Super SAP - Piemonte First Impressions
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SAP doesn’t care about your feelings
Sure doesn't. I cry when I get slapped in a DD and the sap just laughs.
Yes
Yes definitely, or you having a bad day, you lost your pet, or your mom dead, they don't care at all
Imagine if Venezia has gotten the devastation/maine treatment instead with 20 203mm guns.
It would be pretty funny if it had 5-7 seconds worst reload and 0.2 worst sigma to “compensate” for having 5 additional guns
@@VK-mx5td sounds a bit extreme but i get your point. long reload sap shotgun to blap someone
I wish super ships were more like premium ships, you can just throw captains on them without retraining
Same here. Giving how expensive they re to get and maintain, that would be justified.
I wish superships wouldnt exist in the way they exist in the first place. Pay2play bullshit
I stuck with the tier x's don't wanna move um.
@@franz265that and what's even the point when the X's are better with legendary upgrades
@@franz265 superships are kinda dumb. something like annapolis would definitely be strong (after all its a dm with more guns) but then they go and add the burst fire magic spell. why? its just not needed.
Thank you for providing the entertainment that I no longer receive from playing this game. Much less stressful just watching. You have my sincere thanks, and deepest condolences.
Amen to this. I quit back in June of 2020 ever since the CV rework and all I can see from it is the game going downhill with every update and becoming less and less playable unless you really hate yourself.
Game without CV-Subs: Interesting, fun, rewarding position
Game with subs-cv: Pure pain.
I really wish WG would apply this treatment with the battleships instead of what we’re currently getting, it’d be nice it have a Montana with the same number of shells with better ballistics and accuracy instead of a 16 gun contraption that more closely resembles Colombo minus the sap and exhaust smoke. It’s kinda sad how with the handful of exceptions (having better torpedo belt, spaced citadel protection, 38mm deck/upper belt and combat instructions) Maine is objectively inferior to devastation in nearly every other measurable metric, which isn’t good considering devastation is already a lackluster ship.
Some few exceptions aside WG hates BBs with lots of guns but no 30mm overmatch. They give them all kinds of downsides like agonizingly long reload and shit dispersion. The overmatch BBs on the other hand are their clear favourites in this comparison. Accurate snipers often with quick reload.
@@gothia1715 Like Ushakov whose only improvement on her firepower is a gimped F key? Lol
I just wanted to see the Tilman mk IV ;-;
@@gothia1715 they call it balancing, but what good is 16 guns if you can't anything. Most Italian BB's are frustrating to play, there is no range where you can reliably land shots.
Ever since Conde and Annapolis were added, they were considered too good so every supership has to be worse... This ship in particular should've had a gimmick where it gets a Super Def AA and the OTO Melara 76s were dual purpose secondaries. I think that would make it a funny alternative Napoli and a supership worthy vessel.
that would be fantastic. im imagining it as a nuclear button to remove carrier squadrons. like a tenfold AA dps increase but it lasts 10 seconds with the standard cooldown. it must be used strategically (because the CV can get planes to you while the def AA is recharging) but can be used as a sort of scare tactic to protect your teammates. yeah, theres a low hp bb here, but good luck hitting him with planes. except the wowp devs want to keep their jobs so it wont happen :(
@@snailboi6902 would be good at combating supercarriers
That would be a good gimmick for a super Worcester perhaps?
Yeah seeing 4 (four!!) OTO 76s per side would make you think Piemonte is going to delete squadrons of prop warplanes, instead...
well this has 76mm OTOs which have a VT flak shell. this thing should be throwing up a gazillion flak bursts@@nstone2037
Been saying this ever since subs were added - no more than 1 sub per team, no more than 3 subs and dds total per team. Basically make it one superlight ship per cap. Having five or six superlight ships in games just ruins everything. Not gonna touch on the issue of asw, but boy do I have some opinions... like how people who say asw can't be too strong are idiots because subs are literally the stealthiest class in the game, so if you get caught out you deserve to get nuked by the whole map. But somehow the same line of thought doesn't apply to stealth dds who magically DO deserve to get nuked by the whole map if they get caught out.
I've never done a lighthouse build, but I love the concept...like a secondary Agar build (pre nerf). Operating not as intended.
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Looks like it's aa is quite decent too, I can see those oto 76mm on the deck
AA is a downgrade to Venezia, you get 53/588 dps at 4.6/4km compared to Venezia's 189/476 at 4.6/3.7 and lose a significant amount of flak for only slightly more range on your medium AA and with the lack of range on the long range auras neither ships have that good of an AA, especially against super carriers.
@@Fabunility ah ok, thanks for letting me know, still, nice to see those little otos there haha
Thinking that any Italian ship is getting usable AA :D
@@wombat4191 well, Doria does actually have really good as, in Legends that is
AA should be better...if that 76mm is supposed to be the Oto-matic; that gun is a modern weapon with individual radar-control from the 70s-80s. If this is really supposed to be a 30s-40s design, the biggest AA weapon it should have is the 65mm semi-auto. WtF, Gaijin?!?
I've cit Yamato's in the front cheeks with AP Napoli from 11km out, you can do it even when Yammy is somewhat angled.
"Sap, its just so good." -Potato Quality 2023. Yes.....yes it is :) -Italian Main
I would swap outnumbered for the 4 point AA skill, since when your AA is active it will cut your heal and smoke cooldown alot
I like how when your team pushing you're like "there they go suiciding" but when the other team does it you're like "finally some people actually are playing the game"
There's a difference between suiciding senselessly and pushing properly.
I found the 40% wr guy.
I love how people called me stupid in PQ's comments for suggesting that the Italian cruiser supership would be a "super-Napoli" using 254mm SAP.
Do you think the current auction for the Piemonte with the starting bid of 100,000,000 credits is worth it for the ship? Not sure if 150,000,000 credits would be enough of a bid ( Might be my bid , not sure yet)
probably will end up at 300 - 500 mil
Guys how show cursor in the match, because i want Go to logo setting Map and make transparant map opacity 😢
What mod are you running that shows the resources on the top of the screen. Thanks.
Under Aslain's, in the Port Mods section, mark the one that says "Resources". After that, click ok and confirm install. Be sure to exit game before installing first.
Got it thanks much. It's sad the quality of game development occurs better with outside players than with WG. @@zlpatriot11
Seeing the armour layout just makes me weep for Clausewitz. Why does she not get a similarly sturdy side? What excessive strength does she have that she can only have armour on the deck, immediately under the superstructure that will arm most things anyway?
Strange decisions. But WG is nothing if not strange.
SAP is fun.
When I was testing it I really thought it's a worse Venezia
hey i cant figure out how to get the health bars on ships to be on all the time how do i do it? :P
There's a setting, called something like advanced UI mode. You can turn that to always on. Not too sure where it exactly is since the settings menu has been changed recently.
@@wombat4191 thats the thing i cant find that been googling, only thing i can change is the keybind to full interface mode but thats only when only when holding down the key
Well at least it has ASW airstrikes and not depth charges (unlike Venezia) so it can actually do something against subs
That seems to be the case with all T11s. Good thing though.
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Me who was at basically 0 credits and nothing but gray boosters to start the week.
This super seems terrifying to run up against in CBs, assuming anyone runs into one.
Honestly, I don't see what much it brings that Venezia doesn't, besides tankiness. The gunpower is not that different, going from 54 to 67 mm pen doesn't achieve too much besides a select few 55 or 60 mm platings that it gets over. Sure, giving broadside to this is even more dangerous because of the Napoli AP, but otherwise I don't see it being more "terrifying".
4:19 "810 mm turning circle." 🤔
Credits have been in a weird spot since the Econ rework. Nothing fun to spend them on but too much essential boring stuff to buy. Leaves it in a spot where I’d rather have less credits if it meant less trash credit sinks in the game
Walking smoke...good stuff. In your ship, in enemy ship walking smoke - run b*tch run
Super schlieffen 💀
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Burst mode be funny if they added it
Base reload is 21 sec. So would the burst have like 60 sec reload for a two salvo burst?
this looks very similar to the castilla
bruh 76 otobreda
Looks kind of meh. Its weird, as you said, some superships are T11 or T12 in power, others feel like T10.5 and not worth it at all.
Sorry about that guys...no shame man u are potato quality 😂❤
This is not a Super Venezia, this is a Super Napoli without secondaries
But Napoli isn't in the tech tree...
Many superships now seem to be balanced around just being very survivable so people with more money than braincells can play them reasonably effectively and keep spending money on the game.
not superships: all ships. Wargaming will never again make a 14km conceal BB with a vulnerable citadel. They're too hard to play.
@@hagostaeldmann And some inconsistencies in ship lines just show so blatantly how brainless they want to make the game. For example the RN BC line has a vulnerable citadel throughout the line to teach you to be careful with them, and then St Vincent throws it all to thrash and gives you an overpen box by straight up turning the above water part of the citadel into auxiliary rooms or something. Like yeah, I understand making the T10 of a line a reward to look forward to and maybe removing some unpleasant elements, but please not like this, not at the expense of other players. Minotaur for example gets that crazy turret traverse, which makes her such a joy to play compared to the rest of the line, but that doesn't make playing against her any more frustrating. Ships aren't designed like that anymore, nowadays the first person experience is all WG cares about.
the things you complain about are the same things 90% of us also complain about. don't feel bad when the commentary goes negative, we all feel your pain and most of us are not even as good a player as you are and take even more of a beating. from the totally broken subs/counter play, to the original tier 11s being SOOO OP but now the newer ones are mostly disappointing to the point of most belong in the tier 10 resource ships category versus tier 11.
It's pronounced "Peed-mont". The ending "e" is silent.
'This is the way the game works, you have to deal with it'
No actually, you don't. You could uninstall, enough of those and maybe WG would rethink the balance. Maybe they'd even get rid of subs in randoms. You never really know if you keep playing their game how they want.
Its not like the Venezia... its rather a T11 SAP-Napoli.... SAPoli.
so... Napoli with SAP...? Wait no theres one more gun... wtf is this thing
Cool players never watch their kills !
Tbh, no spotter or fighter in italian ships (except dd) is bad
I was the red cv in that second game. I'd like to apologize to @PotatoQuality for hunting him like that. I never figured that game would end up on his YT channel. I'm a huge fan and I feel bad! But I needed wins for the weekly missions... I could pretend I didn't know PQ was on the other team, but I also knew he was likely the biggest threat to our chances of win. I was trying to make sure his impact on my game was as minimal as possible. Was I a dick for hunting him? Yeah, I admit it. Watching the vid and listening to him talk about me and the sub... anyway, sorry PQ! And I love your videos! 👍
I hate that WG have made Airship Escort one of the modes in random battles
But then I hate pretty much everything they are doing with the game at the moment lol
Why hate it? It's a more brawly gamemode, which will give people a reason to play more brawl-specced ships in general in Randoms (as you don't know when it'll appear).
More brawl-focused ships in circulation -> less passive snipey meta in all the battle types.
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I think your wrong, despite I hate superships in the game as much CVs and subs, Piamonte looks nasty, is tanky and punishing and consistent, with no gimmicks, and man, I hate light lighthouse builds, I don't care about damage, I care about objectives and battle impact.
It seems underwhelming, compared to the Venezia.
Well i say this is a disappointment after the venezia because no special gimmicks on the ship. At least venezia has it’s unique upgrade which allow it to use smokes more usually and this makes playmaking more easier. What is the gimmick of this ship as a “super” tier? I don’t see a point to play this on venezia because of some ASW changes. Also no spotting plane is a disadvantage against venezia, 17.6km range is sometimes can be hard. So, this is not a “super” tier. This is just a t10 with some gun and SAP advantage since Spanish cruiser line added to the game. Castilla have 254mm guns on 3x3 turrets as main armamanent and those are Italian too. So AP pen rate is same or nearly same, dispersion on Castilla guns is same with venezia’s 203mm guns.
Their taking the super from their containers and adding it to their ships now. Shame really.
I know his complaints have some validity to it but Jesus some times he puts out a video that keeps me away for a bit after.
Venezia has a legendary mod, Venezia has an extra turret, Venezia has a Spotter/Fighter. Why bother playing this? Yay you overmatch Minotaur/Brisbane. Just not really seeing the point.
because every next ship HAS to be better, not just some sidegrade, right? to hell with powercreep
@@ImRandomDude i mean, it is a super ship. you kind of expect it to be a clear step up from the t10 given the cost involved in obtaining and playing a super ship compared to a regular t10. if it's just a "side grade" to a t10, with added economic downsides there isn't a point.
@@jishani1 Yeah Annapolis and Conde are definitely just nice little sidegrades to their T10 versions as well :D
@@ImRandomDude You know I'd agree with you if it was beside Venezia on the tree, however, it's below it.
Do you not think it's a bit ironic to complain about not being able to counter subs while repeatedly going on about how strong SAP is and how the enemies cannot counter it? And then you only took massive sub torp damage because you just... didn't repair a double ping with visible torps heading for you. I understand not liking subs, but you really only have yourself to blame there.
With griefer CVs so prevalent being a content creator in a game with one that stream snipes is rough, should honestly be able to report that guy but this is working as WG has intended so nothing will happen.
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noob aiming @ 15:48
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@@somebody700 You just earned your 40% badge for explaining the obvious. He should aim higher and sink the ship.
it should have got Napoli secondaries
This ship so bad, I think Piemonte should keep Venezia gimmick like 5x3gun but 240mm., spotting plane, and top up with engine boost like Paolo or back gun can rotate at front to easy to shoot left or right like Colombo. 2x4 torpedoes just ok. compare with Condé and Annapolis they have special ability but Piemonte and Clausewitz are crying at the corner now 🙄😒
Dude, you ask why subs and CVs play like this, and I'll tell you: they're griefers, and they're playing a game where the devs encourage griefing. It's not the classes, its the disgusting people that play it. I dont feel good or happy playing those cancer classs because im not a piece of shit, and therefore i dont play them. I am glad to see that you dont either.