I don't want trainee mistreatment to be normalised, but if Newjeans parents(especially Minji's mom) stayed quiet it would help more, because almost every successful idol went through the same things so it's not something new that would make kpop fans sympathise with them, it actually caused more embarassment than help. But i also think people are focusing on hating the girls too much, when they just like any idols have little to no say in this and like any idol they just don't want to lose their years of training. Also if you saw the messages leaked where MHJ bodyshames a member, she never denied those and only said they were taken out of context which makes no sense. I think the parents felt better making the girls side with her because she did a lot more than be their CEO but it's also weird, she took their parents to diner and even gave them gifts when she "stole" the girls from Source Music, then she tries to act like she's NJ's mom which is also weird. But i don't think Newjeans is well with HYBE either. A lot of koreans who defended MHJ are starting to realise her mistakes, but they still love Newjeans. I think they're too loved to just disband and never come back. I feel like MHJ is going to leave and then the girls will rebrand.
I think international fans are very easily manipulated since they dont follow the news as close as Korean fans nor do they truly understand words by words and the Korean culture. Dispatch being a lapdog of Hybe released the nastiest leaked private messages that they can find from all the audit they did and edited them to make Mhj look bad. Mhj literally just released the full version unedited on the IG today and sued Hybe because of it. And people in Korea are already furious with the unethical actions of Dispatch (not to mention the predebut training video that they posted and deleted).
Uuummm have you never watched a behind the scenes series for new girl groups during their training phase? This is pretty much standard in k and J pop. Their training phases in their teens have a lot of very suggestive choreo. Justified or not, it's common place. . I think it's mostly overlooked because it's "training", but then you have minors debuting and doing these suggestive mature dances and themes, that's unacceptable. Minors should not be allowed to debut until they are adults in my opinion. Love your reactions, vlogs, and daancings during your reactions. 🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶
with the dancing im pretty sure that hyein was 12/13, haerin was 14/15, hanni was 15/16 and minji being 17/18. The pre debut attention cheography is slightly similar to the debut choreography since some of the parts are the same but it’s still a lot more…odd.
When I first saw the practice videos I was confused because I thought dancing like that was normal because I specifically remember watching XG’s documentary series and seeing girls as young as 8 do just as sexually suggestive moves and I thought it was supposed to show how versatile the girls can be when it comes to thinking of concepts for the group. But I will agree the dances they made Hanni, Hyein and Haerin dance to was just too fucking much. They had no business dancing to shit like that, I blame Source Music for that and rightfully so, but at the same time I do feel like almost all of the adults they’ve encountered in the journey truly failed them, including their own parents.
Asian parents also let their kids join agencies in the hope to aspire to be a k pop idol because of poverty. Did you know Suga of BTS had no money to attend college and Big Hit was the one who shouldered his college tuition fee in exchange of being a trainee. Basically if you join K pop agencies even if you are as young as 7-10 years old, they will pay for your school tuition. even if you dont become an idol, because you got cut as a trainee you still get free education. Not all Kpop trainees make tha cut, trainees get cut from their agencies every 3 months, some even move agencies. Your arguments in this video is valid however you need to empathize at why parents let their kids be trainees at a young age.
Those old video are from when there in soumu which is run by some old bastards now they in ADOR run by MHJ which to be fair doesn't really have the best reputation but if you're just gonna keep looking for weird vibes sometimes you'll end up getting weird vibes even when there's none im just sayin
I'm old enough to remember a 17 years old Britney Spears telling us to 'hit her baby one more time' in piggy tails and slutty school girl uniform in 1999. By then she would have 5+ year veteran in the industry under Mickey Mouse brand, doing plenty of sexy dancing in the MM Club. Music industry always has always used sexuality for commercial gains. Either reject the whole commercial aspect of music industry or grow the f up and deal with it. You can't have both. As someone who is so into style and visual arts, which is really about visual deception, all the sudden wanting for everything to be pure and honest feels r ather dishonest on your part IMO. If anything, Adore and MHJ is breaking trends in Kpop keeping sexuality to the minimum for NJ, the difference being CEO is a women vs all other Kpop CEOs being males who have not much qualms about serializing their teen talent these dsys. upport NJ or don't support them. Its your choice but high horse ain't exactly a good look for you to be perched on judging them from, especially being so new to Kpop and not knowing much about how things have been for all these years. Have some humility to learn more before assuming and raging. You are not the only one with morals out here yet I have clear conscience when supporting NJ.
I feel like there’s unfair critiquing on the girls themselves. A double standard if you will. If you’re upset at this stuff, you should take a break in general from K Pop because this is not unique to NewJeans at all. Every K pop band has gone through this unfortunately. So you’re either singling out Newjeans or you’re being consistent and applying this to every K Pop group.
Well this is what Media play does when there's a narrative that's being spread whether its true or false ppl naturally will be become more weary of the situation overanalyzing stuff and all especially to casual listeners i think a lot of bunnies are more on MHJ side bcuz they been following NJs closely and seen how was it from the beginning like theres interviews and phoning lives way before the drama started that supports MHJ side of the story plus going against some of the biggest fandoms in the world doesnt help their case like ive seen some blatant lies go for millions of views and thousands of likes
Do not be judgmental! Min Hee-Jin cares for New Jeans! Min Hee-Jin, creative artist, is a genius of a one-of-a-kind individual to achieve extraordinary results, which neither Hybe nor any other k-pop entrepreneurs can do.
How is she a genius just because she takes ideas from the late 90s to early 2000s and puts them all together? If she cared about NewJeans, she wouldn’t have mentioned them during her press conference. If her issue is with the company, she has no reason to mention the girls claiming that they called her crying bc “they were worried about their unnie” as a way to emotionally manipulate dumb fans like yourself. Knowing damn well if she mentioned the girls or anything “ the girls had to say” about the situation then the girls would be receiving backlash from the public. You’re going out of your way to defend a woman who is literally known for her p3d0ph!l!c history, even back when she worked with SM. She herself has literally said that her inspiration comes from p3d0ph!l!c movies like Lolita..She has literally had the underaged members remake scenes in their music videos from said movies. She even has photos of underaged n4k3d girls as decor on her wall which she posted to instagram herself, look it up.
it is funny cause all the "proofs" and "evidences" Hybe collected from almost all Ador staffs in the surprise audit could not win them the lawsuit in court. Yet they still find some of the most disgusting private conversation of Mhj to provide to their lapdog Dispatch and let them edited it in order to make Mhj look bad. But it backfired so bad with the Kpublic because Mhj literally released the full version of these messages today. Even their CEO had to resign recently. Hybe is so pathetic and cheap.
Just so you know: the judges said Hybe proved she wanted to take over Ador. the only reason why she is still where she is, is that for her to be fired for breach of trust she should've had planned to hurt Ador. Her plan was to damage Hybe, not Ador, so she cannot, momentarily, get fired. Hybe needs to wait for the criminal investigations to be concluded. Also, the "absurd" proofs you're talking about were never really denied.. for example: she never said she never wrote those kakao messages. She just limits herself to "they're taken out of context" and "everybody would look bad" (not really.. not sure about yours, but even with heavy editing my messages wouldn't look half as bad as hers). Oh, you cannot claim breach of privacy if you use your corporate pc to message and share those convos with other people. What goes into your corporate pc belongs to the company
Min Hee Jin gave each New Jans member 3 million won which equals to 5 million US dollars in their first year. Normally K pop idols only get 2 million US dollars in their first year. That is why Newjeans and the members parents support Min Hee Jin. It's all about the money sadly.
If min hee jin only owns less than 20% of ador how is she going to be paying anyone…? Hybe owns the rest, so obviously those $3 million each member received was given to them by the company. Mhj herself literally complained that she “only” gets paid $1.46 million USD, so where is she going to get the money to pay each of the girls $3 million??? please use your brain
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I don't want trainee mistreatment to be normalised, but if Newjeans parents(especially Minji's mom) stayed quiet it would help more, because almost every successful idol went through the same things so it's not something new that would make kpop fans sympathise with them, it actually caused more embarassment than help.
But i also think people are focusing on hating the girls too much, when they just like any idols have little to no say in this and like any idol they just don't want to lose their years of training.
Also if you saw the messages leaked where MHJ bodyshames a member, she never denied those and only said they were taken out of context which makes no sense.
I think the parents felt better making the girls side with her because she did a lot more than be their CEO but it's also weird, she took their parents to diner and even gave them gifts when she "stole" the girls from Source Music, then she tries to act like she's NJ's mom which is also weird.
But i don't think Newjeans is well with HYBE either. A lot of koreans who defended MHJ are starting to realise her mistakes, but they still love Newjeans. I think they're too loved to just disband and never come back. I feel like MHJ is going to leave and then the girls will rebrand.
I think international fans are very easily manipulated since they dont follow the news as close as Korean fans nor do they truly understand words by words and the Korean culture. Dispatch being a lapdog of Hybe released the nastiest leaked private messages that they can find from all the audit they did and edited them to make Mhj look bad. Mhj literally just released the full version unedited on the IG today and sued Hybe because of it. And people in Korea are already furious with the unethical actions of Dispatch (not to mention the predebut training video that they posted and deleted).
Uuummm have you never watched a behind the scenes series for new girl groups during their training phase? This is pretty much standard in k and J pop. Their training phases in their teens have a lot of very suggestive choreo. Justified or not, it's common place. . I think it's mostly overlooked because it's "training", but then you have minors debuting and doing these suggestive mature dances and themes, that's unacceptable. Minors should not be allowed to debut until they are adults in my opinion. Love your reactions, vlogs, and daancings during your reactions. 🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶
She very clearly said shes new to kpop and started looking at these things because of NewJeans
with the dancing im pretty sure that hyein was 12/13, haerin was 14/15, hanni was 15/16 and minji being 17/18.
The pre debut attention cheography is slightly similar to the debut choreography since some of the parts are the same but it’s still a lot more…odd.
When I first saw the practice videos I was confused because I thought dancing like that was normal because I specifically remember watching XG’s documentary series and seeing girls as young as 8 do just as sexually suggestive moves and I thought it was supposed to show how versatile the girls can be when it comes to thinking of concepts for the group. But I will agree the dances they made Hanni, Hyein and Haerin dance to was just too fucking much. They had no business dancing to shit like that, I blame Source Music for that and rightfully so, but at the same time I do feel like almost all of the adults they’ve encountered in the journey truly failed them, including their own parents.
i wonder what you’d think if you heard about stories from 2nd and 3rd gen idols and how they trained👀
Asian parents let their kids join agencies at a young age because it's all about the money.
Asian parents also let their kids join agencies in the hope to aspire to be a k pop idol because of poverty. Did you know Suga of BTS had no money to attend college and Big Hit was the one who shouldered his college tuition fee in exchange of being a trainee. Basically if you join K pop agencies even if you are as young as 7-10 years old, they will pay for your school tuition. even if you dont become an idol, because you got cut as a trainee you still get free education. Not all Kpop trainees make tha cut, trainees get cut from their agencies every 3 months, some even move agencies. Your arguments in this video is valid however you need to empathize at why parents let their kids be trainees at a young age.
Those old video are from when there in soumu which is run by some old bastards now they in ADOR run by MHJ which to be fair doesn't really have the best reputation but if you're just gonna keep looking for weird vibes sometimes you'll end up getting weird vibes even when there's none im just sayin
I'm old enough to remember a 17 years old Britney Spears telling us to 'hit her baby one more time' in piggy tails and slutty school girl uniform in 1999. By then she would have 5+ year veteran in the industry under Mickey Mouse brand, doing plenty of sexy dancing in the MM Club.
Music industry always has always used sexuality for commercial gains. Either reject the whole commercial aspect of music industry or grow the f up and deal with it. You can't have both.
As someone who is so into style and visual arts, which is really about visual deception, all the sudden wanting for everything to be pure and honest feels r ather dishonest on your part IMO.
If anything, Adore and MHJ is breaking trends in Kpop keeping sexuality to the minimum for NJ, the difference being CEO is a women vs all other Kpop CEOs being males who have not much qualms about serializing their teen talent these dsys.
upport NJ or don't support them. Its your choice but high horse ain't exactly a good look for you to be perched on judging them from, especially being so new to Kpop and not knowing much about how things have been for all these years. Have some humility to learn more before assuming and raging. You are not the only one with morals out here yet I have clear conscience when supporting NJ.
I feel like there’s unfair critiquing on the girls themselves. A double standard if you will. If you’re upset at this stuff, you should take a break in general from K Pop because this is not unique to NewJeans at all. Every K pop band has gone through this unfortunately.
So you’re either singling out Newjeans or you’re being consistent and applying this to every K Pop group.
Well this is what Media play does when there's a narrative that's being spread whether its true or false ppl naturally will be become more weary of the situation overanalyzing stuff and all especially to casual listeners i think a lot of bunnies are more on MHJ side bcuz they been following NJs closely and seen how was it from the beginning like theres interviews and phoning lives way before the drama started that supports MHJ side of the story plus going against some of the biggest fandoms in the world doesnt help their case like ive seen some blatant lies go for millions of views and thousands of likes
Do not be judgmental! Min Hee-Jin cares for New Jeans! Min Hee-Jin, creative artist, is a genius of a one-of-a-kind individual to achieve extraordinary results, which neither Hybe nor any other k-pop entrepreneurs can do.
Enough gdrug! She is a narcissistic gaslighting manipulator
How is she a genius just because she takes ideas from the late 90s to early 2000s and puts them all together? If she cared about NewJeans, she wouldn’t have mentioned them during her press conference. If her issue is with the company, she has no reason to mention the girls claiming that they called her crying bc “they were worried about their unnie” as a way to emotionally manipulate dumb fans like yourself. Knowing damn well if she mentioned the girls or anything “ the girls had to say” about the situation then the girls would be receiving backlash from the public. You’re going out of your way to defend a woman who is literally known for her p3d0ph!l!c history, even back when she worked with SM. She herself has literally said that her inspiration comes from p3d0ph!l!c movies like Lolita..She has literally had the underaged members remake scenes in their music videos from said movies. She even has photos of underaged n4k3d girls as decor on her wall which she posted to instagram herself, look it up.
it is funny cause all the "proofs" and "evidences" Hybe collected from almost all Ador staffs in the surprise audit could not win them the lawsuit in court. Yet they still find some of the most disgusting private conversation of Mhj to provide to their lapdog Dispatch and let them edited it in order to make Mhj look bad. But it backfired so bad with the Kpublic because Mhj literally released the full version of these messages today. Even their CEO had to resign recently. Hybe is so pathetic and cheap.
Just so you know: the judges said Hybe proved she wanted to take over Ador. the only reason why she is still where she is, is that for her to be fired for breach of trust she should've had planned to hurt Ador. Her plan was to damage Hybe, not Ador, so she cannot, momentarily, get fired. Hybe needs to wait for the criminal investigations to be concluded.
Also, the "absurd" proofs you're talking about were never really denied.. for example: she never said she never wrote those kakao messages. She just limits herself to "they're taken out of context" and "everybody would look bad" (not really.. not sure about yours, but even with heavy editing my messages wouldn't look half as bad as hers).
Oh, you cannot claim breach of privacy if you use your corporate pc to message and share those convos with other people. What goes into your corporate pc belongs to the company
PEPEGA as expected Koreaboo
NewJeans need an apologize
Mhj and Njeans family try to put forward ridiculous reasons because they cant defend their actions.
What did they do?
@@jangdoong ask narcissistic manipulative gaslighter pepeja
Min Hee Jin gave each New Jans member 3 million won which equals to 5 million US dollars in their first year. Normally K pop idols only get 2 million US dollars in their first year. That is why Newjeans and the members parents support Min Hee Jin. It's all about the money sadly.
If min hee jin only owns less than 20% of ador how is she going to be paying anyone…? Hybe owns the rest, so obviously those $3 million each member received was given to them by the company. Mhj herself literally complained that she “only” gets paid $1.46 million USD, so where is she going to get the money to pay each of the girls $3 million??? please use your brain
Min Hee Jin is so cringy.