Another great soul food video. For those of us stuck indoors, thank you for giving us the opportunity to share these beautiful locations and experiences.
These videos are lovely and heart warming and so cosy looking. It's like watching a Marks & Spencer or John Lewis ad, so inviting and warm. Love it. You've captured the essence of wild camping.
@@MCMOutdoors One of the things you've captured in your videos is focusing on nature and the beauty of the world. Some campers never leave their tent and spend their whole video showing you their knife lol. Keep on keeping. Cheers.
*_Even though the roar of the storm winds, but seeing the beautiful scenery and the flow of the river with clear water, makes my head feel cold and comfortable, thank you sir for presenting this video_*
Hi Chris. While I'm no pole expert, I am a huge fan of them and wouldn't consider any hike without them. I am 5foot 8 and usually set them between 125cm and 130cm. Benefits (IMHumbleO), stability, thrust (uphill), brake (downhill), river crossing assistance, squelchy bog testers, cattle scaring implements, t-shirt drying pole, cool photograph posing with poles held triumphantly overhead, the list is legion. I have a pair of Leki Trail AS poles that are going on 8years now and are still going strong. Another nice video from the Lakes. Regards, Wadirunner.
Top info mate - thank you very much. I concur with the triumphant posing 😂 also handy for a contemplation leaning pose, whilst weighing up life 😄 ill keep at them, very useful for wading streams and as a downhill brake. Cheers pal.
Fantastic video again stunning journey you go on been wanting to do it myself for while now watching this gives me new lease of life keep up fantastic work stunning sites along the way
Well that's me spurred on to get back out there again, after watching this vid I've put in 2 days holiday to head to the hills, thanks for kick starting another journey 😊🙏
Great stuff. We were above you. The wind was odd. Gusts. Then nothing then it got wild. Then died. Rain on and off. Bizzare weather. I used poles for a while (if I take my pretents or tarp I still do) they helped a lot. But I got sick of holding them while walking. Apparently they can help with swelling hands too. The 90 degree angle thing is correct 📐 looked nice and relaxed there. Does you good like. You’re right about turmat as well. Expensive but lovely. Cheers for taking us along. Send Bats 🦇. No idea 🤷♂️
Thanks mate - some Osprey packs I have use a 'stow on the go' system - which genuinely works - prevents the faff. Can deploy them from said position quickly too. Cannot beat the Turmat meals, just not every camp £££ Weather was mental on this, I didn't manage to capture any bad gusts, but there were many. Send jellyfish wigs - or something.
I never used trekking poles when I was young but I now use them all the time when I have a pack on my back especially when I am hammock camping to put my tarp in porch mode. As far as 4 season ratings of tents, wild camping in the U.K. is so different from backpacking in the U.S. I don't know where the terms of the debate would start but I would like to listen to it. There are so many considerations like terrain, altitude distance, snow, rain, wind, etc. Also, as a long time sufferer of migraines, they do get better as you get older so there is hope! Thanks for the video. Great as always.
I'm going to do a live stream re the season ratings soon, it's very interesting and I think maybe it could be revisited or some kind of standard applied. Thank you for the useful info and your kind words - v much appreciated - atb, Chris
Great video as always 👍I've used poles for quite a few years and find them very useful. As you say they give an extra push going uphill, but it doesn't end there....they help your knees descending steep hills, and can stop a trip/ slip turning into a fall. They're also invaluable crossing streams, giving far greater stability. Stick with them, you might surprise yourself and become a convert 😂👍
Another great video & what a tent. Terra Nova definitely seems to be producing the goods. As for pole height...consensus says 90’ but I run mine slightly higher. I went for what I felt most comfortable with & what gave best leverage & stability allowing me to keep my back more upright. I’d say start at 90 then play with them both on flat & uphill. When you find your groove...you’ll feel it...then mark them. Then see what happens next trip. Just my 2pence worth.
I really love poles they’re like 4-wheel drive. Height wise you’re spot on. The main trick is to put your hand UP through the straps and then it should sit under your wrist so just tighten the straps so that’s how they sit. When walking you are effectively pushing down with weight on your wrists and just lightly gripping the pole. If you go DOWN through the hoops they are not effective. Plus also if you fall it’ll twist your thumb. I use on flats, hills and downs. The key for most used is to have the poles pointing behind you. So when you would normally have weight on your thigh pushing…you use the pole to push so it takes all the weight off your thighs. Makes a massive difference and enables you to hike quicker on flats but also further as less strain on legs. They should only be in front of you for downs really. Some people like to stick in front for ups but better use is to push behind you. Nice for downhill too out in front to steady you. Ideally lengthen poles for that but I just leave my set the same all the time. 125 for my height. Hope that helps.
Really enjoyed this mate. As per the walking poles well the Norwegians have been using them for years and they smash their miles out on walks! I'm a big fan and as I get older think it's important to use them to offer help/support to my joints, knees in particular. Used an original TN Laser comp 1 throughout my mountain leader journey and it was an ace bit of kit. Personally I'm a big fan of TN tents, they are worth the money. Keep up the great work mate. ATB - Simon.
Thanks Simon - the tent held up to some very strong winds - which were very erratic in that by the time I got the camera back out, it had passed over. I'll persevere with the poles - definitely worth it for the saving of joints for later years I reckon!
Great video Chris....cracking pitch in what is my favourite tent at the moment 👍🏻...must agree real turmat is pricey but very tasty especially after a long hike 😁
Really chilled/relaxed camp that Chris. I like using walking poles, really helps give you an extra push going uphill and support for your knees going downhill. Nice one mate ATB
The way you express through words is just as relaxing as the visuals mate, I always enjoy your tent chats. Beautiful area and a massive Tarn! Another blustery one Chris. Yeah interesting talk about the ratings. I'd like to sink my teeth into that on a live stream mate when we can get together next. Thanks pal for this vid 👍
Poles really come up trumps especially on descendants on wet, icy rock and the older i get the more i appreciate them. Its worth experimenting withnthe height setting for ascending and descending but its also handy to just always keep them the same and just move your grip up and down when the terrain gets a bit bouldery and steep and you dont want to be fannying around in high winds on steep ground. I never bother taking a shovel thingy because its easy enough to just scrape a hole with a pole tip .
I know exactly where you are, lovely spot 👌. Poles for me make a massive difference, really great in getting up a steep hill, stability and aiding me auld knees on the way down and great on crossing water courses/boggy ground.
Hi. I’m in Ireland and been camping here a good few years in all seasons. I have tried many different tents but have settled on the MSR Elixir one and two. They have excellent airflow which keep the inside nicely vented which is an issue in my other tents.
Fantastic video again Chris.. Seen lots of comments on here about walking poles, apologies if I've missed anything about pole use.. I do believe the poles should be put to max first pole, then move the second pole to be in line with your hip. your hands should go up and under the strap so the web of your hand sits on top and you hold the handle loosely. pole are mainly for stability not to drag you up hills and mountains.. please correct me (Paul, ex mountain guide!!!)...just some very interesting info a fine gentleman shared with lots of us on C2C May 22 Regards as ever
As always mate, great video and that looked a stunning place to camp. I will mark that up on my map for the future. Never used poles as yet but a dare say, I will do in the future. As for the tents I reckon they need a overhaul. I reckon Ant would be putting that bobcat in the 4 season category and it's earnt it. Where would you put my vango tempest 200. Keep up the good work fella. Atb and looking forward to the next one.
Great video Chris! What a beautiful spot! Maybe with some more sun! Really want to visit the area in the future. Looks like a great tent but I have no idea how they do their ratings but if it’s a four season tent it should definitely hold a fair amount of snow for sure in Sweden where 20 cm per night is quite common. And some winds on top of that.
You sure the groggy head wasn't the beer I find it makes me feel like that camping and supping. A smoke of an ancient herb wakes you up a lot fresher with a better nights sleep 🥱🤫😉 I'm in the same thought as you I don't like trekking poles, but my new tent I really like The Durston X mid 2 needs then to pitch it up so it's a pain having to take them just for that. They are also even less use when you have a dog lead in one hand
Great content, these type of videos is like therapy to me, which has inspired me to get back out there again to which I did a wild camp in snowdonia the other week. As for the poles I've never used them as I'm ex army and fit as a fiddle lol and they will be just extra baggage for me. However I have started to notice that my knees hurt coming down off steep mountains so looks like I'll be investing in a pair.
Great video again Chris 👍I always use walking poles with any uphill or downhill walking. They have been proven to take as much as 20% stress off your knees👍
I've been using walking poles for the last 3 years. I like them, used to get a bit of knee pain coming downhill. They have helped with that. Going uphill, I sometimes find them a chore, especially when you reach a hands on scramble (have to collapse them) My friend who does some physio reckons that they take @15% of strain out of your legs going up and gives your upper body a workout.???? All considered I recommend using them. They work for me. Great video again TY👍
Cheers - agree when scrambling - they become a pain and you need somewhere to quickly stow them. A few Osprey packs I have feature a "stow on the go" system, so you can collapse and secure them on your pack without having to take it off - great little feature. Thanks for watching 👍👌
I didn’t use poles for years then on the 4th time I did the Yorkshire 3 peaks I gave them a go. Zero slips and no knee and ankle pain for the first time ever. Converted ever since. Probably prolong how long I’ll be able to hike for in future years to come I reckon.
Mate, just been to Krakow, for the weekend, and travelling round it was extremally flat, can't say the who of Poland is like that, but I was thinking while there that we are lucky to have what we have here in Britain. Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed it as usual.
Very nice. I just picked up the UCO Mini and love it so far. Can't wait to try it out. Looks like you have the micro version with vent holes. Very cool. I always use trekking poles. It's especially handy when going downhill to save my knees. It definitely helps my hips on uneven terrain. I really need them for creek crossings. Cheers from California.
Great stuff Rod. I have the full size version too, used it for over 20 years - nice bit of kit. I'll keep trying out the poles moving forward, definitely warming to them. Thanks for watching pal 👍
You never fail to inspire mate , I have a number outdoor activities and with family life not always easy to get out , but every time I watch mate it definitely gives me that extra kick to get out cheers chris appreciated all the best 😃🏕
Hi Chris. Great content as always. Thank you. Walking poles? Wait 20 years and you will appreciate them. 1 or 2. Inclines push yourself up. Down hill protect the knees and stop slippy rock falls. Slimy stiles 3rd contact point. Stepping stone outriders. Boggy ground test the depth. Aggressive bullocks.. smack on nose. I am 58. Never go without. Always have my Lowe titanium £3 charity shop job with the grandad handle. Walked a few miles to retrieve it when mislaid. Peace
@@MCMOutdoors also 😉 great as binocular/camera rest, arse rest (grandad handle), bramble and nettle hacker, fruit hooker and litter picker. I have also used as crook to hoik dog with collar out of swollen river and pulled amyself out of same situation. Like a featherweight extendable ice axe.
Great vid Chris because you’re a great proponent for people starting out with their wild-camping. Those stateside ratings are probably quite different to us where we live in a temperate island environment. Good point you raised. That all seasons terra nova looks very good. I’ve a photon2 which has long been out of production and only weighs 800g Approx and was perfectly fine in Lakes in March ‘22🤠
Great content as usual, I have seen somewhere that walking poles can take up to 20% of your pack weight, I been using them for a year now and would not go back not using them, very versatile piece of kit.
I’ve been using walking poles for 40 odd year’s really helpful in river crossings and going downhill with a heavy pack I’m in my 70s so it’s fair to say they were helpful in not damaging my knees when I did the more heroic stuff in my youth! If your wondering how long you will be able to keep backpacking I’m off to do another coast to coast across Scotland in a few weeks so look after your knees guys! I don’t regard them as having a set height but adjust them accordingly.
Nice one Chris, been up there a few times and been on my radar for a camp. The walking poles certainly help but I find them a pain when your not using them, especially when your carrying the camera too. ATB 👍
Use them all the time now. 90 degree is the usual I use them. Sometime I will shorten them for steep ascents and lengthen them for steep descent. I massively notice the difference using them downhill against not using them. Been in the lakes for last 3 days trying out the Tarptent Dipole 1 which uses poles
Great video mate. Looks like a great camp spot. I've always liked the look for the compact. I'm still using my trusty Vango Banshee but I also have the Nevis which is a cheaper version of yours and does the job in 75% of the time.
I use trekking poles. As someone already noted, from what seems to be out there as well, they are supposed to also help take some of the impact/weight off the legs/knees both uphill and downhill. And, it also is hard to tell if a person's fitness level also impacts whether they like to use trekking poles. I think it would be interesting to discuss 4-season tents. I don't know that there is any rules or standard here in the U.S. about a rating or calling a tent 4-season. From some of the information out there, it really seems likely to be about snow load, that the rain-fly/outer tent goes all the way to the ground, the inner tent should have little to no mesh and the materials usually noted as stronger. I have even seen some tents noted as 3/5 (3 and a half) season tents. I enjoy the videos.
@@MCMOutdoors I agree that the tent season rating debate is interesting. It reminds me a bit of the sleeping bag ratings. On sleeping bags, there was no real standard that was required in order to note a degree rating on a sleeping bag. And in the U.S., I do not believe that one exists yet. it wasn't until the EU put forth a standard requiring that sleeping bags be independently rated and those be published on the bags.
To be honest I got rid of my Rode mics as the sound was too good, which I know sounds a bit daft but I prefer that GoPro sound, which allows a bit of wind background noise as (imo) it shows how bad the conditions really are, rather that the sterile sound of almost silence, when it is blowing a gale. I like the fact you can set a front facing mic on the GoPro, so I can talk into the wind but the mic will pick up my voice as a main and the wind will be just additional background. For one awful second I thought you were going to do an Andy Wardle and attempt the 'Assent of Doom' to Hartsop Dodd, he took the hardest and 'steepest' way up, from were you started your video🤣. For years I refused to use walking poles out of pride to be honest but I always use them all the time now, mainly for the reasons you mentioned extra welly pushing up a Fell and the additional stability it gives you, it's like having 4 points of contact instead of two and it does take the pressure off your knees and hips, especially on the way down - when you are an OAP like me, they are invaluable. Yes, 90 degrees for walking flat, shorter when going up steep and longer for going down, always works for me. Great to have the whole tarn to yourself and good to see those showers did not stop you getting out of the tent completely. I will tell you what does need overhauling - my bladder, if I drank 3 or 4 cold cans on a cold night I would be on the trot all bloody night, I don't know how you do it🤔. My sister has migraines, so I know how bad they can be, fingers crossed that did not develop into one for you, cheers Alan
Cheers Alan - great info in this response. I only carry about 2 beers up now, that may change in summer :-) Don't worry, I did the ascent of hell from Hartsop a few months back - the video is here: ruclips.net/video/jZaeZD6khZ8/видео.html It was absolutely horrendous as the paths were treacherous the next morning and it is extremely steep - good fun though! I will keep going with the poles ! Next time you're out for a camp, give me a shout mate - ATB
Great vid Chris, love the Terra Nova Laser, it looks like you have gangs of room. I've been using Poles for a while mate but normally find them more useful for decent off the big hills, takes pressure off me knees. Anyway thanks for sharing, great content as ever 👍
Real Turmat truly is by far the best I've tried. Pro tip if you're on a strenuous trip is to bring some potato mash powder and chili flakes to put into the bag to increase the portion size :)
Great vid as usual Chris, thinking of doing my first wild camp this summer, I like the layout of the fjallraven abisco lite 2, but that maybe a bit too expensive at this stage
I wouldn't go without walking poles somewhere boggy, great for testing ground and helping you vault streams. For more travelled paths I tend to get too self conscious to use them, but my posture does suffer...
Thanks Nick - I did get a few funny looks from some groups, I think some people assume that they're overkill unless you have mobility / joint issues ....... I normally only carry them if I have a trekking pole tent - but, I found them helpful going up and for crossing streams which were very full
Chris - what have you done.....Marmite!! Wrong. Just. Wrong 🤣🤮 I used to have you down as a man of taste! 😉 Nice quiet spot there by the looks of it too. Tent looks a bit low for me though to be honest (horses for courses though) I do use poles these days as I got run over a few years back and suffered some lasting damage to my knee and ankle and they really do help with the downhill sections. Before I used them if I did a decent walk out with a couple of peaks I would be in agony and unable to bear weight on my right side for a few days after but using the poles takes of the extra impact (for me anyway)
Literally started using poles within the last month Chris. Figured I’d see if they can help me along the west highland way in a month or so and tbh I’m a fan. Fly along with them and descents are so much better on the knees. Looked a relatively chilled camp 😊 Hope you and your guys are well, Adge
Thanks pal - the winds were actually pretty bad, I just didn't manage to capture them as they passed by the time I got the camera back out - was very strange. Good look for the WHW - a stunning trail - enjoy pal
Pros, stronger...... Cons, weight and inability to alter the size of inner to make vestibule bigger. To be fair, 2 very different tents designed for VERY different conditions. Both excellent in their own right.
Great again mate, I do like the look of the terra nova stuff. But I've got a soulo and a telemark 2 silnylon and I think that covers me well for all seasons. So I can't really justify buying more 😂
hi brill video ! can you tell me what height the inner is please ? is it big enough for a decent xtherm and a 6 footer ? read that the tn measurement's are wrong and its around 86cm high rather than 95cm in the tent image ? cheers
Don't have the real life measurements to hand mate, but I'm exactly six ft and used the X Lite NXT MAX and it was fine. Next time I'm in it, I'll get back to you. The new version is taller than the previous 👍
Oh, I forgot to link this video in my previous comment. I use poles most of the time, for many reasons: they save my aging joints; but using them also burns more calories and uses more muscles. So you magically get a better workout, but feel less tired! Anyway, the video... ruclips.net/video/WP2P6tZdmH4/видео.html
Great camp Chris. Shame about the weather but you always seem to make the most of it👍 I bought the Lomo poles a while back on your recommendation. They're great bits of kit. I take them on all my camps but in reality don't actually use them that often. Not a massive weight penalty so it's worth bringing them in my opinion. Question: does that UCO lantern get hot at all? All the best.
Thanks pal - I'm making a bit of a concerted effort to use them more and find out more about the benefits. A top location here. Re the candle lantern - a resounding yes - hot enough to melt fabric of a tent on contact, when the gusts picked up I had to blow it out as there was too much risk of it touching. But, it gives off a surprising amount of heat - there is a thin metal plate above the flame, so this gets scalding hot. Nice bit of kit mate.
Defo do a live stream on ratings but extend it to brands to country by country. Personally having used most brands i wouldn't bother with Scandinavian clothing in the UK although in higher dryer cold mountains its the bomb. Also some of the Scandi gear weighs a ton and thats for extra strength with load carrying and load baring and not really nesasary for UK conditions plus those Northern European countries get paid a lot higher average salary than us and thats reflected in the price too which doesn't always equate to the performance......Put about 3 hours aside fio that one Chris :)
Hi Kenny, I'm sorry but I purposefully don't disclose exact locations on videos anymore, only so as to avoid any unnecessary pressure on any particular area.
I don't think season ratings can be anything other than nonsense. There are many variables to consider in the UK alone, before you even start to consider what other countries' seasons are like, and to wrap all those variables up into a simple season rating is both difficult, and also not that useful. The solution? Measure and rate the different variables e.g. Wind durability; snow loading; heat retention etc etc, I'm sure you get the idea 😉
I agree - how can it be that this "rating" has become universally accepted across the globe?!? Based on what? Who tests this? Anyone independently? No. It's a self proclaimed badge. I think it needs to be standardised and overhauled. I know what I expect from a "4 season tent". Some have mentioned "mountain tents". Yes, I know what they are - and I own some. But the term "mountain" isn't applied to tents, nor is there a level above "4 season" - which implies the obvious, can be used all year round. It's definitely one for an upcoming live stream.
Safety Gear. What has to happen is items like tents, mats, bags etc. they need to be classed as safety gear and then they would fall under mandatory regulations and testing. Only then will you be able to buy a tent and KNOW in advance that it WILL sustain in 100K winds at -40 or if it should just be a summer in the back yard tent in good weather only.
In Australia it seems 3 season has a mesh inner whereas 4 season has a solid material inner - Lanshan 2 being an example. While it's a nice roomy tent for trekking and it can handle rain, there's no way you'd take it out in a big wind up a big hill. The label colour system seems like a better idea. Trekking poles help support the upper body and take some weight off the knees when you're stepping forward especially over flattish long sections, so you can smash out miles faster. Depends on the trail probably, they work well on long forest sections.
Thanks Ian, good info here! I think an overhaul is needed! In the UK, 4 season generally (I think), would mean a tent which could withstand 50 mph plus winds, with solid inner and fly to ground. Maybe there should be a better system of "rating" tents?
Cool video. I love the Tent. Have a wonderful day.
Thanks! You too!
Another great soul food video.
For those of us stuck indoors, thank you for giving us the opportunity to share these beautiful locations and experiences.
Thanks Stu - glad to help pal
Excellent again Chris
Thanks Simon, much appreciated
underrated RUclipsr. Enjoyable as always mate
Much appreciated Tom
Great video pal, always a pleasure 👍
Thank you 🏕️👍
"Hunkered Down". Love it. We'll done 👏👍🍻
Cheers Ted 👍
Chris.
Sorry for the late comment.
Lovely spot and great vid as usual. Sorry about the banging head.
Cheers.
Rob
No worries Rob, thanks for watching 👍
Very nice my friend! Really enjoyed it 🤠
Thank you kindly Herb 👍
Brilliant video, need to try that brand of food ,
Love watching your videos of your adventures keep up the good work
Can't beat the Turmat meals - thanks for watching mate
I was looking for this one on my lunch break!!! 😜👍
Hope you like it mate
These videos are lovely and heart warming and so cosy looking. It's like watching a Marks & Spencer or John Lewis ad, so inviting and warm. Love it. You've captured the essence of wild camping.
Cheers Caz, was a great location that and very relaxing camp 👍
@@MCMOutdoors One of the things you've captured in your videos is focusing on nature and the beauty of the world. Some campers never leave their tent and spend their whole video showing you their knife lol. Keep on keeping. Cheers.
*_Even though the roar of the storm winds, but seeing the beautiful scenery and the flow of the river with clear water, makes my head feel cold and comfortable, thank you sir for presenting this video_*
Glad you enjoyed it
How did you do the italics?
Nice one Chris !
Stunning spot mate really enjoyed it.
Cheers Graham
Glad you enjoyed it mate - thank you for watching 👍
a littel bit of minduflness right there dude, the AS looks a very good one man tent for all weathers
Yes, much improved over the previous version too
Hi Chris. While I'm no pole expert, I am a huge fan of them and wouldn't consider any hike without them. I am 5foot 8 and usually set them between 125cm and 130cm. Benefits (IMHumbleO), stability, thrust (uphill), brake (downhill), river crossing assistance, squelchy bog testers, cattle scaring implements, t-shirt drying pole, cool photograph posing with poles held triumphantly overhead, the list is legion. I have a pair of Leki Trail AS poles that are going on 8years now and are still going strong. Another nice video from the Lakes.
Regards, Wadirunner.
Top info mate - thank you very much. I concur with the triumphant posing 😂 also handy for a contemplation leaning pose, whilst weighing up life 😄 ill keep at them, very useful for wading streams and as a downhill brake. Cheers pal.
Looked a good one mate. Enjoyed the video.
Glad you enjoyed it mate - ATB
Videos are getting better every time I watch one keep doing what you doing buddy
I appreciate that mate - cheers
Fantastic video again stunning journey you go on been wanting to do it myself for while now watching this gives me new lease of life keep up fantastic work stunning sites along the way
Go for it pal, you'll have a great time - atb, Chris
Well that's me spurred on to get back out there again, after watching this vid I've put in 2 days holiday to head to the hills, thanks for kick starting another journey 😊🙏
Go for it Ste and thanks for watching
Great video. I just bought this tent on eBay for £240 in very good condition, looking forward to getting out with it
Bargain! Hope you enjoy it 👌⛺
We enjoyed your trip Chris👍. The tent looks a great redoubt too. Thanks for bringing everyone along. Best wishes auld chap😁 👍🙏
Glad you enjoyed it mate
Chris another great video keep well x
Thanks Diane 👍🏕️👌
Great stuff. We were above you. The wind was odd. Gusts. Then nothing then it got wild. Then died. Rain on and off. Bizzare weather. I used poles for a while (if I take my pretents or tarp I still do) they helped a lot. But I got sick of holding them while walking. Apparently they can help with swelling hands too. The 90 degree angle thing is correct 📐 looked nice and relaxed there. Does you good like. You’re right about turmat as well. Expensive but lovely. Cheers for taking us along. Send
Bats 🦇.
No idea 🤷♂️
Thanks mate - some Osprey packs I have use a 'stow on the go' system - which genuinely works - prevents the faff. Can deploy them from said position quickly too.
Cannot beat the Turmat meals, just not every camp £££
Weather was mental on this, I didn't manage to capture any bad gusts, but there were many.
Send jellyfish wigs - or something.
@@MCMOutdoors jellyfish wigs 😂
Lovely vid
I never used trekking poles when I was young but I now use them all the time when I have a pack on my back especially when I am hammock camping to put my tarp in porch mode. As far as 4 season ratings of tents, wild camping in the U.K. is so different from backpacking in the U.S. I don't know where the terms of the debate would start but I would like to listen to it. There are so many considerations like terrain, altitude distance, snow, rain, wind, etc. Also, as a long time sufferer of migraines, they do get better as you get older so there is hope! Thanks for the video. Great as always.
I'm going to do a live stream re the season ratings soon, it's very interesting and I think maybe it could be revisited or some kind of standard applied. Thank you for the useful info and your kind words - v much appreciated - atb, Chris
Great video as always 👍I've used poles for quite a few years and find them very useful. As you say they give an extra push going uphill, but it doesn't end there....they help your knees descending steep hills, and can stop a trip/ slip turning into a fall. They're also invaluable crossing streams, giving far greater stability. Stick with them, you might surprise yourself and become a convert 😂👍
I'm trying! Thanks very much and I appreciate the info 😊👍
Also for testing the depth of ‘puddles’ on bog land 🥾
Nice work Chris, a really relaxed vibe to this 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it Dave, thanks for watching
Another great video & what a tent. Terra Nova definitely seems to be producing the goods.
As for pole height...consensus says 90’ but I run mine slightly higher. I went for what I felt most comfortable with & what gave best leverage & stability allowing me to keep my back more upright. I’d say start at 90 then play with them both on flat & uphill. When you find your groove...you’ll feel it...then mark them. Then see what happens next trip. Just my 2pence worth.
They certainly do! Thank you for sharing some top info too - atb, Chris
I really love poles they’re like 4-wheel drive. Height wise you’re spot on. The main trick is to put your hand UP through the straps and then it should sit under your wrist so just tighten the straps so that’s how they sit. When walking you are effectively pushing down with weight on your wrists and just lightly gripping the pole.
If you go DOWN through the hoops they are not effective. Plus also if you fall it’ll twist your thumb. I use on flats, hills and downs.
The key for most used is to have the poles pointing behind you. So when you would normally have weight on your thigh pushing…you use the pole to push so it takes all the weight off your thighs. Makes a massive difference and enables you to hike quicker on flats but also further as less strain on legs. They should only be in front of you for downs really. Some people like to stick in front for ups but better use is to push behind you.
Nice for downhill too out in front to steady you. Ideally lengthen poles for that but I just leave my set the same all the time. 125 for my height. Hope that helps.
Thanks very much Kris - some top info there and very useful 👌
@@MCMOutdoors my pleasure
Really enjoyed this mate. As per the walking poles well the Norwegians have been using them for years and they smash their miles out on walks! I'm a big fan and as I get older think it's important to use them to offer help/support to my joints, knees in particular. Used an original TN Laser comp 1 throughout my mountain leader journey and it was an ace bit of kit. Personally I'm a big fan of TN tents, they are worth the money. Keep up the great work mate. ATB - Simon.
Thanks Simon - the tent held up to some very strong winds - which were very erratic in that by the time I got the camera back out, it had passed over. I'll persevere with the poles - definitely worth it for the saving of joints for later years I reckon!
Yep, poles definitely help with stability as you get older and reaction / decision time gets slower as to where your feet are going to go.
Great video! New to ur channel and enjoying.
Thanks. Hope you enjoy the back catalogue!
Great video Chris....cracking pitch in what is my favourite tent at the moment 👍🏻...must agree real turmat is pricey but very tasty especially after a long hike 😁
Absolutely, my favourite meal out of the dehydrated so far. Thanks for watching pal
Really chilled/relaxed camp that Chris. I like using walking poles, really helps give you an extra push going uphill and support for your knees going downhill. Nice one mate ATB
Cheers Joe - I'm going to keep at them pal. Thank you v much for watching 👍
The way you express through words is just as relaxing as the visuals mate, I always enjoy your tent chats.
Beautiful area and a massive Tarn! Another blustery one Chris.
Yeah interesting talk about the ratings. I'd like to sink my teeth into that on a live stream mate when we can get together next.
Thanks pal for this vid 👍
Defo mate - it was a top camp pal, thanks for watching
Poles really come up trumps especially on descendants on wet, icy rock and the older i get the more i appreciate them. Its worth experimenting withnthe height setting for ascending and descending but its also handy to just always keep them the same and just move your grip up and down when the terrain gets a bit bouldery and steep and you dont want to be fannying around in high winds on steep ground. I never bother taking a shovel thingy because its easy enough to just scrape a hole with a pole tip .
Some good tips there mate. Thanks for sharing.
I know exactly where you are, lovely spot 👌. Poles for me make a massive difference, really great in getting up a steep hill, stability and aiding me auld knees on the way down and great on crossing water courses/boggy ground.
Absolutely mate - thanks for watching
I like using poles on a descent, helps the knees
Certainly do help the knees pal
Hi. I’m in Ireland and been camping here a good few years in all seasons. I have tried many different tents but have settled on the MSR Elixir one and two. They have excellent airflow which keep the inside nicely vented which is an issue in my other tents.
Good tent - only thing which puts me off that one is inner first pitching.
Great vid mate nice tent I’m not sure but I read that the fajlraven tents were tested in Nordic winters keep up the great vids mate 😊
Wouldn't surprise me pal. Thanks for watching
Fantastic video again Chris.. Seen lots of comments on here about walking poles, apologies if I've missed anything about pole use.. I do believe the poles should be put to max first pole, then move the second pole to be in line with your hip. your hands should go up and under the strap so the web of your hand sits on top and you hold the handle loosely. pole are mainly for stability not to drag you up hills and mountains.. please correct me (Paul, ex mountain guide!!!)...just some very interesting info a fine gentleman shared with lots of us on C2C May 22
Regards as ever
Thanks for the tips George - extremely useful - I will try some of those techniques 👍
As always mate, great video and that looked a stunning place to camp. I will mark that up on my map for the future. Never used poles as yet but a dare say, I will do in the future. As for the tents I reckon they need a overhaul. I reckon Ant would be putting that bobcat in the 4 season category and it's earnt it. Where would you put my vango tempest 200. Keep up the good work fella. Atb and looking forward to the next one.
Thanks mate - I reckon the tempest is 2 / 3 - it's a hardy little tent, so maybe firmly in the 3 category!
Great video Chris! What a beautiful spot! Maybe with some more sun! Really want to visit the area in the future.
Looks like a great tent but I have no idea how they do their ratings but if it’s a four season tent it should definitely hold a fair amount of snow for sure in Sweden where 20 cm per night is quite common. And some winds on top of that.
A top spot mate - very quiet and peaceful! Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts re season ratings
You sure the groggy head wasn't the beer I find it makes me feel like that camping and supping. A smoke of an ancient herb wakes you up a lot fresher with a better nights sleep 🥱🤫😉 I'm in the same thought as you I don't like trekking poles, but my new tent I really like The Durston X mid 2 needs then to pitch it up so it's a pain having to take them just for that. They are also even less use when you have a dog lead in one hand
Haha, I only had 2 beers. I'll keep at the trekking poles - especially if it means I can keep hiking for more years. Thanks for watching.
Great content, these type of videos is like therapy to me, which has inspired me to get back out there again to which I did a wild camp in snowdonia the other week. As for the poles I've never used them as I'm ex army and fit as a fiddle lol and they will be just extra baggage for me. However I have started to notice that my knees hurt coming down off steep mountains so looks like I'll be investing in a pair.
Great to hear mate - all the best, Chris
Great video again, loved the location
Thanks pal - appreciate the comment 👍
Great video again Chris 👍I always use walking poles with any uphill or downhill walking. They have been proven to take as much as 20% stress off your knees👍
Top info Phil - cheers
I've been using walking poles for the last 3 years.
I like them, used to get a bit of knee pain coming downhill. They have helped with that.
Going uphill, I sometimes find them a chore, especially when you reach a hands on scramble (have to collapse them)
My friend who does some physio reckons that they take @15% of strain out of your legs going up and gives your upper body a workout.????
All considered I recommend using them. They work for me.
Great video again TY👍
Cheers - agree when scrambling - they become a pain and you need somewhere to quickly stow them. A few Osprey packs I have feature a "stow on the go" system, so you can collapse and secure them on your pack without having to take it off - great little feature. Thanks for watching 👍👌
I didn’t use poles for years then on the 4th time I did the Yorkshire 3 peaks I gave them a go. Zero slips and no knee and ankle pain for the first time ever. Converted ever since. Probably prolong how long I’ll be able to hike for in future years to come I reckon.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Dave - I'm going to keep using them now. Thank you pal.
Mate, just been to Krakow, for the weekend, and travelling round it was extremally flat, can't say the who of Poland is like that, but I was thinking while there that we are lucky to have what we have here in Britain. Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed it as usual.
We do have some beautiful landscapes in our very small island mate - ATB, Chris
Very nice. I just picked up the UCO Mini and love it so far. Can't wait to try it out. Looks like you have the micro version with vent holes. Very cool.
I always use trekking poles. It's especially handy when going downhill to save my knees. It definitely helps my hips on uneven terrain. I really need them for creek crossings.
Cheers from California.
Great stuff Rod. I have the full size version too, used it for over 20 years - nice bit of kit. I'll keep trying out the poles moving forward, definitely warming to them. Thanks for watching pal 👍
Brilliant Chris, you just make people want to get out there and do something, even if it’s just to make a brew. What stove is it please?
Cheers Si, stove is an EOE Cobaltum 👍
@@MCMOutdoors much appreciated
You never fail to inspire mate , I have a number outdoor activities and with family life not always easy to get out , but every time I watch mate it definitely gives me that extra kick to get out cheers chris appreciated all the best 😃🏕
Cheers Gaz, appreciate it mate
Hi Chris. Great content as always. Thank you. Walking poles? Wait 20 years and you will appreciate them. 1 or 2. Inclines push yourself up. Down hill protect the knees and stop slippy rock falls. Slimy stiles 3rd contact point. Stepping stone outriders. Boggy ground test the depth. Aggressive bullocks.. smack on nose. I am 58. Never go without. Always have my Lowe titanium £3 charity shop job with the grandad handle. Walked a few miles to retrieve it when mislaid. Peace
Thanks mate - I'm beginning to see the benefits and there is lots of useful information being offered in the comments. Cheers 👍
@@MCMOutdoors also 😉 great as binocular/camera rest, arse rest (grandad handle), bramble and nettle hacker, fruit hooker and litter picker. I have also used as crook to hoik dog with collar out of swollen river and pulled amyself out of same situation. Like a featherweight extendable ice axe.
Great vid Chris because you’re a great proponent for people starting out with their wild-camping. Those stateside ratings are probably quite different to us where we live in a temperate island environment. Good point you raised. That all seasons terra nova looks very good. I’ve a photon2 which has long been out of production and only weighs 800g Approx and was perfectly fine in
Lakes in March ‘22🤠
They make some great tents pal! Thanks v much for watching!
Great content as usual, I have seen somewhere that walking poles can take up to 20% of your pack weight, I been using them for a year now and would not go back not using them, very versatile piece of kit.
Thanks Rodney, very useful info - 👍
Id love a review of this tent, I'm struggling to decide between this and HB akto
One will be coming up soon mate
I’ve been using walking poles for 40 odd year’s really helpful in river crossings and going downhill with a heavy pack I’m in my 70s so it’s fair to say they were helpful in not damaging my knees when I did the more heroic stuff in my youth! If your wondering how long you will be able to keep backpacking I’m off to do another coast to coast across Scotland in a few weeks so look after your knees guys!
I don’t regard them as having a set height but adjust them accordingly.
Great information David and good luck on your C2C !
In 🇬🇧 single hoop tents if guy lines are rigid and the "hoop" can be doubled like the akto or abisko it makes a real difference tbf. Thanks big man 😁
Thanks for watching Fraser
Nice one Chris, been up there a few times and been on my radar for a camp. The walking poles certainly help but I find them a pain when your not using them, especially when your carrying the camera too. ATB 👍
Cheers Phil - I'm likening them to trying beer when you were a kid - you get there in the end :-) thanks for watching mate
Use them all the time now. 90 degree is the usual I use them. Sometime I will shorten them for steep ascents and lengthen them for steep descent. I massively notice the difference using them downhill against not using them. Been in the lakes for last 3 days trying out the Tarptent Dipole 1 which uses poles
I'll keep at them Gary, thanks for watching
Great video mate.
Looks like a great camp spot.
I've always liked the look for the compact. I'm still using my trusty Vango Banshee but I also have the Nevis which is a cheaper version of yours and does the job in 75% of the time.
Great tent Doug - glad it's treating you well 👌
I use trekking poles. As someone already noted, from what seems to be out there as well, they are supposed to also help take some of the impact/weight off the legs/knees both uphill and downhill. And, it also is hard to tell if a person's fitness level also impacts whether they like to use trekking poles.
I think it would be interesting to discuss 4-season tents. I don't know that there is any rules or standard here in the U.S. about a rating or calling a tent 4-season. From some of the information out there, it really seems likely to be about snow load, that the rain-fly/outer tent goes all the way to the ground, the inner tent should have little to no mesh and the materials usually noted as stronger. I have even seen some tents noted as 3/5 (3 and a half) season tents.
I enjoy the videos.
Thanks v much John, the tent season rating debate is very interesting. ATB, Chris
@@MCMOutdoors I agree that the tent season rating debate is interesting. It reminds me a bit of the sleeping bag ratings. On sleeping bags, there was no real standard that was required in order to note a degree rating on a sleeping bag. And in the U.S., I do not believe that one exists yet. it wasn't until the EU put forth a standard requiring that sleeping bags be independently rated and those be published on the bags.
Hiking poles are probably very useful in very rough and uneven terrane and for crossing rivers and creeks.
To be honest I got rid of my Rode mics as the sound was too good, which I know sounds a bit daft but I prefer that GoPro sound, which allows a bit of wind background noise as (imo) it shows how bad the conditions really are, rather that the sterile sound of almost silence, when it is blowing a gale. I like the fact you can set a front facing mic on the GoPro, so I can talk into the wind but the mic will pick up my voice as a main and the wind will be just additional background. For one awful second I thought you were going to do an Andy Wardle and attempt the 'Assent of Doom' to Hartsop Dodd, he took the hardest and 'steepest' way up, from were you started your video🤣. For years I refused to use walking poles out of pride to be honest but I always use them all the time now, mainly for the reasons you mentioned extra welly pushing up a Fell and the additional stability it gives you, it's like having 4 points of contact instead of two and it does take the pressure off your knees and hips, especially on the way down - when you are an OAP like me, they are invaluable. Yes, 90 degrees for walking flat, shorter when going up steep and longer for going down, always works for me. Great to have the whole tarn to yourself and good to see those showers did not stop you getting out of the tent completely. I will tell you what does need overhauling - my bladder, if I drank 3 or 4 cold cans on a cold night I would be on the trot all bloody night, I don't know how you do it🤔. My sister has migraines, so I know how bad they can be, fingers crossed that did not develop into one for you, cheers Alan
Cheers Alan - great info in this response. I only carry about 2 beers up now, that may change in summer :-) Don't worry, I did the ascent of hell from Hartsop a few months back - the video is here:
ruclips.net/video/jZaeZD6khZ8/видео.html
It was absolutely horrendous as the paths were treacherous the next morning and it is extremely steep - good fun though!
I will keep going with the poles ! Next time you're out for a camp, give me a shout mate - ATB
@@MCMOutdoors - As I said in my new video, the tent will defo be out this year, needs to be a bit warmer first mind :o)
HELLO.
Great vid Chris, love the Terra Nova Laser, it looks like you have gangs of room. I've been using Poles for a while mate but normally find them more useful for decent off the big hills, takes pressure off me knees. Anyway thanks for sharing, great content as ever 👍
Thanks for watching Bryce and for sharing your thoughts on the poles mate! ATB, Chris
Real Turmat truly is by far the best I've tried. Pro tip if you're on a strenuous trip is to bring some potato mash powder and chili flakes to put into the bag to increase the portion size :)
Definitely the nicest meals I've tried so far. Top tip re bulking them out. Thank you 👍
Hi, HB Akto or TN Laser Compact All Season? Any condensation comparison between the two? Any relevant updates to either for 2023?
Hi, never tried the Akto. The AS2 has been made with more head height! Which would be ace to try, I believe it's even lighter too.
Interesting, I think the TN Compact AS2 is top of the list at the mo... how does it perform with condensation? Thanks - Sean.
Great vid as usual Chris, thinking of doing my first wild camp this summer, I like the layout of the fjallraven abisco lite 2, but that maybe a bit too expensive at this stage
Sounds good Rob, the Abisko Lite 2 is a great tent. Tom Heaney has put it through some brutal conditions recently.
Oh Chris this intro is so beautifully shot
Cheers Beca - good to be out as always 👌👍 x
I wouldn't go without walking poles somewhere boggy, great for testing ground and helping you vault streams. For more travelled paths I tend to get too self conscious to use them, but my posture does suffer...
Thanks Nick - I did get a few funny looks from some groups, I think some people assume that they're overkill unless you have mobility / joint issues ....... I normally only carry them if I have a trekking pole tent - but, I found them helpful going up and for crossing streams which were very full
Chris - what have you done.....Marmite!! Wrong. Just. Wrong 🤣🤮 I used to have you down as a man of taste! 😉 Nice quiet spot there by the looks of it too. Tent looks a bit low for me though to be honest (horses for courses though) I do use poles these days as I got run over a few years back and suffered some lasting damage to my knee and ankle and they really do help with the downhill sections. Before I used them if I did a decent walk out with a couple of peaks I would be in agony and unable to bear weight on my right side for a few days after but using the poles takes of the extra impact (for me anyway)
Haha! They're nice 😁thanks for watching and the info mate
Literally started using poles within the last month Chris. Figured I’d see if they can help me along the west highland way in a month or so and tbh I’m a fan. Fly along with them and descents are so much better on the knees.
Looked a relatively chilled camp 😊
Hope you and your guys are well,
Adge
Thanks pal - the winds were actually pretty bad, I just didn't manage to capture them as they passed by the time I got the camera back out - was very strange. Good look for the WHW - a stunning trail - enjoy pal
Hi, why is your inner tent white? I thought it was yellow
Nope, came as white
How do you like this tent compared to Nordisk Telemark 2? (Or 2.2, which one you had). Pros and cons?
Pros, stronger...... Cons, weight and inability to alter the size of inner to make vestibule bigger.
To be fair, 2 very different tents designed for VERY different conditions. Both excellent in their own right.
Headache? you mean hang over lol. Great vid pal. is part of the inside uncliped? it was baffling me.
Haha! Not from 2 beers! 🤣 Yes, I did that to get more room / head height!
@@MCMOutdoors that explains it :)
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Great again mate, I do like the look of the terra nova stuff. But I've got a soulo and a telemark 2 silnylon and I think that covers me well for all seasons. So I can't really justify buying more 😂
Come on Phil, you always need more tents - you know this :) Thanks for watching mate - ATB
@@MCMOutdoors 😂 very true!
hi brill video ! can you tell me what height the inner is please ? is it big enough for a decent xtherm and a 6 footer ? read that the tn measurement's are wrong and its around 86cm high rather than 95cm in the tent image ? cheers
Don't have the real life measurements to hand mate, but I'm exactly six ft and used the X Lite NXT MAX and it was fine. Next time I'm in it, I'll get back to you. The new version is taller than the previous 👍
Oh, I forgot to link this video in my previous comment. I use poles most of the time, for many reasons: they save my aging joints; but using them also burns more calories and uses more muscles. So you magically get a better workout, but feel less tired!
Anyway, the video...
ruclips.net/video/WP2P6tZdmH4/видео.html
Great camp Chris. Shame about the weather but you always seem to make the most of it👍 I bought the Lomo poles a while back on your recommendation. They're great bits of kit. I take them on all my camps but in reality don't actually use them that often. Not a massive weight penalty so it's worth bringing them in my opinion. Question: does that UCO lantern get hot at all? All the best.
Thanks pal - I'm making a bit of a concerted effort to use them more and find out more about the benefits. A top location here. Re the candle lantern - a resounding yes - hot enough to melt fabric of a tent on contact, when the gusts picked up I had to blow it out as there was too much risk of it touching. But, it gives off a surprising amount of heat - there is a thin metal plate above the flame, so this gets scalding hot. Nice bit of kit mate.
Just wondering if you find it flaps about and is quite noisy in high winds ? A friend of mine has one and is always moaning about for that reason.
Flaps more than a tent with actual poles / more structure, but that's to be expected. Doesn't bother me in the slightest 👍
Defo do a live stream on ratings but extend it to brands to country by country. Personally having used most brands i wouldn't bother with Scandinavian clothing in the UK although in higher dryer cold mountains its the bomb. Also some of the Scandi gear weighs a ton and thats for extra strength with load carrying and load baring and not really nesasary for UK conditions plus those Northern European countries get paid a lot higher average salary than us and thats reflected in the price too which doesn't always equate to the performance......Put about 3 hours aside fio that one Chris :)
Haha, I'll book a 5hr slot just to be certain. Good observations mate. Cheers.
@@MCMOutdoors Make it an all nighter :)
Where was you pitched please? Was it Grisdale Tarn 🤔
Hi Kenny, I'm sorry but I purposefully don't disclose exact locations on videos anymore, only so as to avoid any unnecessary pressure on any particular area.
Using poles is 10-15% more efficient. For people with old knees (or for young people with bad knees) using poles means more time hiking.
Thanks for the info Paul
Appears to me the US 4 season rating is more from a snow loading perspective.
Possibly mate - they do get some brutal winds too, so who knows.
Great video as usual.
Come on you lot 440 views and only 60+ likes???
If your watching the video at least show your support
Thanks mate - I think a lot watch on Smart TV's so the ability to "like" is either missing or a pain to actually work out. ATB, Chris
Another great video Chris,thanks for sharing ⛺️
No worries Alan, thank you for watching pal
Bought an Hilleberg allak2 live in North Yorkshire expensive but you get what you pay for still going strong
Cracking tent Ste - real shelter from the elements
I don't think season ratings can be anything other than nonsense. There are many variables to consider in the UK alone, before you even start to consider what other countries' seasons are like, and to wrap all those variables up into a simple season rating is both difficult, and also not that useful.
The solution? Measure and rate the different variables e.g.
Wind durability; snow loading; heat retention etc etc, I'm sure you get the idea 😉
I agree - how can it be that this "rating" has become universally accepted across the globe?!?
Based on what? Who tests this? Anyone independently? No.
It's a self proclaimed badge.
I think it needs to be standardised and overhauled.
I know what I expect from a "4 season tent".
Some have mentioned "mountain tents". Yes, I know what they are - and I own some. But the term "mountain" isn't applied to tents, nor is there a level above "4 season" - which implies the obvious, can be used all year round.
It's definitely one for an upcoming live stream.
Jealous as hell looks like paradise compared to what I’ve been doing today
Bliss ! Could live outdoors
Wonder if your migraine was linked to the barometric pressure changes with all that weather 😅
Possible!
Safety Gear. What has to happen is items like tents, mats, bags etc. they need to be classed as safety gear and then they would fall under mandatory regulations and testing. Only then will you be able to buy a tent and KNOW in advance that it WILL sustain in 100K winds at -40 or if it should just be a summer in the back yard tent in good weather only.
Good points 👌
Cracking video mate, love the content as usual! Keep it up 👌🏼👌🏼
Nice one Callum, glad you enjoyed it mate
There’s four season tents and there’s mountain tents. Because a tent is rated at four seasons doesn’t mean its fit for a mountain.
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Interesting thoughts. Thanks for sharing 👍
In Australia it seems 3 season has a mesh inner whereas 4 season has a solid material inner - Lanshan 2 being an example. While it's a nice roomy tent for trekking and it can handle rain, there's no way you'd take it out in a big wind up a big hill. The label colour system seems like a better idea. Trekking poles help support the upper body and take some weight off the knees when you're stepping forward especially over flattish long sections, so you can smash out miles faster. Depends on the trail probably, they work well on long forest sections.
Thanks Ian, good info here!
I think an overhaul is needed!
In the UK, 4 season generally (I think), would mean a tent which could withstand 50 mph plus winds, with solid inner and fly to ground.
Maybe there should be a better system of "rating" tents?