Also, no mention of how much energy is required to produce or replenish the battery. If the goal is reducing greenhouse gas emissions then we only have part of the story.
The reason aluminum air batteries haven't taken off is not because of the passive oxide on the anode(-). It's because the cathode (+) floods with water. Switch the cathode over to electrolyzer mode and turn the water into oxygen and hydrogen. This leaves a dry cathode so it can continue to work. I know because I've done it. Good luck and thank you for this post.
I seem to think so too. I am not sure if people understand the significance of such invention. It is as big as human discovering fire. Part of me want to believe it's true despite all odds!
Absolutely! The aluminium battery is quite used in different armies, even if the biggest issue that once used, you cannot recharge it. Basically, it's a kind of super classic battery. If I remember well, there were some old studies claiming that if th these used battery were recycled and reused (which is quite easy with aluminum), the total energy cycle would be close to 30%.
Aluminum air batteries work by oxidising the aluminum. They are not rechargeable. If you have endless supplies of aluminum metal lying around and don't mind buying a new battery every 1500 miles then you could use these batteries in cars. Doing so would increase greenhouse gas emissions though since aluminum requires so much energy to mine and refine.
Note: RECYCLABLE battery. Right on the label. So how much money to REPLACE the battery after 1500 miles? NOT RECHARGEABLE, but RECYCLABLE !!! The aluminum is consumed. The aluminum has to be replaced. Big damn difference!
A very important fact this was not mentioned at all in the video. Yet they chose to compare it to a Tesla Battery and falsify the cost of the Tesla battery replacement. Very poor.
Downside is that this battery cannot be recharged, because the electrolyte reaction works by 'eating' the aluminum. They need to be replaced when depleted. Cost will be about $0.10 per mile so not really worth it for general people usage.
Would make a great range extender for plug-in EV's though. Throw it in the trunk when you're on a road trip, unhook it when you get to the destination and have time to charge your batteries again, hook it back up for the drive back and turn in the dead cell when you get back home. Something like this would actually make having an EV be practical in my situation where I live in a rural area and other than grocery shopping I only need a car to go to cities that are 300+ miles away.
@@Fr1nc3sc41 So what? You can make a computer or oscilloscope in your garage. What you can't do is best the research being done by thousands of well paid physicists and engineers in your garage.
because logically such billions should not vaporized instantly, means those researchers are dictated of what material they should use to make the battery very profitable
It's not a scam you can make a battery like this the fluid needs to be replaced instead of being recharged but the fun part is the amount of energy you get from the battery compared to other batteries
If he sounded more like Jake from State Farm rather than Microsoft tech support / IRS debt collection department from India more people would understand whats being said. The secret liquid is made from that rare plant in the amazon that's also used to remove wrinkles in just 10 minutes.
This’d work well as a range extender. If you run low on rechargeable power, then switch to aluminium air. Or for long trips where your car range is too low.
FYI, this battery technology is not rechargeable but can be recycled. The idea of this battery pack is that you have to exchange batteries each time after depletion at a supermarket or a convenience store. That's a hell a lot of job for the supply chain.
It probably can achieve that range. Aluminum Oxygen batteries are known for very high energy densities. What they fail to tell you, however, is that the battery is NOT rechargeable, which makes it a non-starter for EVs imo
@Carl Klinkenborg Diesel does have incredibly high energy density, but the engines are only about 45% efficient. More than half of the energy in diesel is waste heat, and diesel is much better than gasoline in this regard. EV motors achieve up to 90% efficiency.
Graham Henry that’s correct. However the portability of diesel and how cheap it is makes up for everything against it. Things are how they are because people have experimented with millions of alternatives before they ended up using what they use now. Technology and innovation is fine but great leaps aren’t to be expected.
What if you put a 3D printer inside the battery printing more aluminum (as a way to charge the battery) and the car would stop once it's getting close to the amount needed to run the 3D printer to produce more and you simply add aluminum to the printer as a rather different way to charge your car
This battery cannot be recharged just by plugging in this should be swap out every time you charge and put a new one . Battery should be charged in swapping stations and everytime when they charge the battery the aluminium inside should be removed and put new one
Instead of using Aluminium can we get even better results by using Nickel or Copper or Silver or Gold ? (Gold may not be commercially feasible though )
To go 1500 miles will cost you around $300. Based on $6.00 a gal and 30 miles per gal. So no matter what it has to at least be the same price as a gas car. Sure it's 25% of the cost but in the long run will it cost more?
A researcher about 20 years ago invented a way to separate Hydrogen from water but the by-product of the aluminum storage tank could have been used as a dirty bomb if someone collected enough of the tanks so the technology was taken from him by the FBI.
Aluminum air? this I have to see.. yeah range anxiety has always been my problem.. He was a cook in the navy.. And with that money he paid you for this? But I thought this was the best kept secret (along with Jackson's special sauce) in the UK.. Well now you have done it... every one is gonna be piling up to his place for his battery and sauce!!!
Aluminium air batteries are primary cells ie, they are non-rechargeable. However it can be mechanically recharged by replacing the hydrated aluminium oxide anode with aluminium anode.
I think if government will take a plan like aluminium air battery for Indian market. It will push to ev market and entire industry will grow accordingly
The catch is that of the recharge. You have to swap batteries. But it’s smaller lighter and swapping is doable, you can see swapping batteries I Taiwanese scooters.
This battery can’t currently be recharged, so needs replacement. Thus not viable. However it could be the basis of new battery chemistry which will have high density.
Would you say an alkaline battery powered flashlight could last x number of hours "on a single charge"? Of course not. "On a single charge" implies it can be recharged. Aluminum air batteries consume the aluminum and can NOT be recharged. They must be replaced with a new battery just like the disposable batteries on your flashlight. Can you imagine the cost and inconvenience of having to take your car in to the shop every 3 to 4 weeks to replace the battery?
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It's a non rechargeable battery. It needs to be replaced once it's discharged
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@@Ankur13211 I am aware of this but you did not read what I said about environmental impact.
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NOTE: THE BATTERY IS NOT RECHARGEABLE.
maikel de bakker oops 😅
Also, no mention of how much energy is required to produce or replenish the battery. If the goal is reducing greenhouse gas emissions then we only have part of the story.
Its a step... Theyll figure it out eventually
note: it's also technology that has been around for years !
@Carl Klinkenborg time will not help. This can not recharge. Lifepo4 is the way to go.
The reason aluminum air batteries haven't taken off is not because of the passive oxide on the anode(-). It's because the cathode (+) floods with water. Switch the cathode over to electrolyzer mode and turn the water into oxygen and hydrogen. This leaves a dry cathode so it can continue to work. I know because I've done it. Good luck and thank you for this post.
Sounds like a total scam to me.
It is.
I seem to think so too. I am not sure if people understand the significance of such invention. It is as big as human discovering fire. Part of me want to believe it's true despite all odds!
Indeed it's a Scam
Actually it is not. But, on the other hand, is not rechargable. Once is depleted, it has to be replaced because the aluminium get oxydated.
@@user-os4qe9gn4s Oxidized
The metal air battery concept came around 1960s.
Absolutely!
The aluminium battery is quite used in different armies, even if the biggest issue that once used, you cannot recharge it. Basically, it's a kind of super classic battery.
If I remember well, there were some old studies claiming that if th these used battery were recycled and reused (which is quite easy with aluminum), the total energy cycle would be close to 30%.
Cool - but it isn't rechargeable battery so 5k for 2000km is quite expensive and not very green.
Aluminum air batteries work by oxidising the aluminum. They are not rechargeable. If you have endless supplies of aluminum metal lying around and don't mind buying a new battery every 1500 miles then you could use these batteries in cars. Doing so would increase greenhouse gas emissions though since aluminum requires so much energy to mine and refine.
Who here has seen the Thunderf00t debunk of this scam??
I have Just watched it yesterday
His thorough exposure of this charlatan and his scam was as always excellent!
Extremely Great News to the EV manufacturers 👍 This makes the future of the EVs very positive & strong
Note: RECYCLABLE battery. Right on the label. So how much money to REPLACE the battery after 1500 miles?
NOT RECHARGEABLE, but RECYCLABLE !!! The aluminum is consumed. The aluminum has to be replaced. Big damn difference!
A very important fact this was not mentioned at all in the video. Yet they chose to compare it to a Tesla Battery and falsify the cost of the Tesla battery replacement. Very poor.
Do you know how abundant aluminum is? Still, its possible this will spawn better tec
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How long is the recharge process? Oh wait, it's not. It's recyclable. Not rechargeable. OOOOOPS.
Downside is that this battery cannot be recharged, because the electrolyte reaction works by 'eating' the aluminum. They need to be replaced when depleted. Cost will be about $0.10 per mile so not really worth it for general people usage.
Would make a great range extender for plug-in EV's though. Throw it in the trunk when you're on a road trip, unhook it when you get to the destination and have time to charge your batteries again, hook it back up for the drive back and turn in the dead cell when you get back home. Something like this would actually make having an EV be practical in my situation where I live in a rural area and other than grocery shopping I only need a car to go to cities that are 300+ miles away.
Does this battery re-charge or does it have to be replaced ?
Looks like a non-rechargeable battery, as far as I get it.
Billions of dollars go into battery research and some bloke in his shed comes up with something better? Horseshit.
Apple, Hewlett Packard and Microsoft were started in garages or sheds at home.
@@Fr1nc3sc41 So what? You can make a computer or oscilloscope in your garage. What you can't do is best the research being done by thousands of well paid physicists and engineers in your garage.
because logically such billions should not vaporized instantly, means those researchers are dictated of what material they should use to make the battery very profitable
He has a big shed 😀
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Haan kyunki issues hai inme sab Jo practically possible nahi hote
It's not a scam you can make a battery like this the fluid needs to be replaced instead of being recharged but the fun part is the amount of energy you get from the battery compared to other batteries
Good future of ev
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This is really revolutionary 👌👌
Where the battery now? I yet to see this out in production.
I don't know if you know this, but batteries aren't rated in kilometers. How about some sort of actual data on things like KWH/Kg or KWH/volume?
I also invented some magic pixy dust that powers my helicopter for 1,000 miles. . . . .
where can i buy it?
Horace Taylor i need $400,000 seed money first ! Gimme....
@@Swiv2020 hahahahahaha, check your account later.
a suggestion if you dont mind, put your channel's logo in thumbnail of your videos, it will be more noticeable in the crowd.
Sure , we try to do that
If he sounded more like Jake from State Farm rather than Microsoft tech support / IRS debt collection department from India more people would understand whats being said. The secret liquid is made from that rare plant in the amazon that's also used to remove wrinkles in just 10 minutes.
This’d work well as a range extender. If you run low on rechargeable power, then switch to aluminium air. Or for long trips where your car range is too low.
Do you have a link to the development to this battery?
Do a video sea rch for: Thunderfoot 1500 mile battery debunked
FYI, this battery technology is not rechargeable but can be recycled. The idea of this battery pack is that you have to exchange batteries each time after depletion at a supermarket or a convenience store. That's a hell a lot of job for the supply chain.
Yes it's true, i'm working on this similar functionalities and able to crack soon ,we are laging behind few support in R&D.
Good luck
I think, it must be a noble winning work.... Its a tribute to mother earth
ThunderFoot debunked it. 1500 mile SUPER-battery: BUSTED!
This is the battery that will change and make viable the electric motor cycle.
My perception from my background in physics, this battery news is to get investors. When I see this battery technology working then I will believe it.
Good work sir..
The secret ingredient is a plutonium reactor. There is no other element on earth that has energy density to power a car for 2,400km.
Yes, Ironman has it! lol
I’ll believe it when I see it used in electric cars for sale on the market.
It probably can achieve that range. Aluminum Oxygen batteries are known for very high energy densities. What they fail to tell you, however, is that the battery is NOT rechargeable, which makes it a non-starter for EVs imo
Graham Henry thought it was too good to be true.
@Carl Klinkenborg Diesel does have incredibly high energy density, but the engines are only about 45% efficient. More than half of the energy in diesel is waste heat, and diesel is much better than gasoline in this regard. EV motors achieve up to 90% efficiency.
Graham Henry that’s correct. However the portability of diesel and how cheap it is makes up for everything against it. Things are how they are because people have experimented with millions of alternatives before they ended up using what they use now. Technology and innovation is fine but great leaps aren’t to be expected.
Efficiency is great and all but when your energy density pales in comparison to diesel then it's importance is secondary.
something which will never go out of their offices... as usual.
What if you put a 3D printer inside the battery printing more aluminum (as a way to charge the battery) and the car would stop once it's getting close to the amount needed to run the 3D printer to produce more and you simply add aluminum to the printer as a rather different way to charge your car
Happy to see more than 1 lakhs subscriber. All the best
See Thunderf00t demolish this in his videos. The company providing 'millions' apparently does not have enough funds for 1 researcher for a year.
This isn't new technology, it isn't rechargeable, it won't replace the current incumbent unless the use case is somehow changed.
After the battery is used and drained the first time it Has to be replaced with a different battery
Maybe it would be as we do today with a BBQ, take the old bottle, get a new one and pay $8.
This battery cannot be recharged just by plugging in this should be swap out every time you charge and put a new one .
Battery should be charged in swapping stations and everytime when they charge the battery the aluminium inside should be removed and put new one
At who knows what cost and how much energy input. It's less than half of the story.
Instead of using Aluminium can we get even better results by using Nickel or Copper or Silver or Gold ? (Gold may not be commercially feasible though )
Imagine if you put that shit on a bike. Would probably last the life of the bike lol
If the Daily Mail published this, chances are it's BS!
Amazing
I have this uranium plutonium battery, very dangerous but last for years
Should build battery swapping facilities.
Great one for Toyota Prius, Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt electric cars.
To go 1500 miles will cost you around $300. Based on $6.00 a gal and 30 miles per gal. So no matter what it has to at least be the same price as a gas car. Sure it's 25% of the cost but in the long run will it cost more?
If true, you'll never hear about this battery or it's inventor ever again.
A researcher about 20 years ago invented a way to separate Hydrogen from water but the by-product of the aluminum storage tank could have been used as a dirty bomb if someone collected enough of the tanks so the technology was taken from him by the FBI.
"torty tousant uros" 😂 Indian accent is funny.. 👍
It works however the batteries need to be inexpensive, easily changed and readily available.
Aluminum air? this I have to see.. yeah range anxiety has always been my problem.. He was a cook in the navy.. And with that money he paid you for this? But I thought this was the best kept secret (along with Jackson's special sauce) in the UK.. Well now you have done it... every one is gonna be piling up to his place for his battery and sauce!!!
This is future
Ya right. Go green, go electric but say no to sterlite industries that produces the copper required for the electric motor!🤣🤣🤣
The main problem with metal air is air itself. It needs to be impossibly clean for the battery to last. ESpecially in our dusty environment.
Aluminium air batteries are primary cells ie, they are non-rechargeable. However it can be mechanically recharged by replacing the hydrated aluminium oxide anode with aluminium anode.
This is the most probable venues had been overlooked for many years. Theorically it is eureka
Can this be use as an alternative for motorcycle batteries?
if it isn't a scam.
Coming to your neighborhood at around the year 4000.
And teleportation
and star-trek warp technology
Congrats sir for your invention
I think if government will take a plan like aluminium air battery for Indian market. It will push to ev market and entire industry will grow accordingly
Infrastructure for manufacturing and recycling already exist for aluminum.
Amazing effort.
Did you just claim that those batteries would cost £5000 for just 1500 miles of range?
Crude Oil sellers are applying different tricks & tactics, they are not allowing Electric vehicles or delaying as much as possible for their profit
THUNDERFOOT DESTROYED THIS
Thanks 🙏
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How much price
Give a clear clarification on Log9
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Great research for future
The catch is that of the recharge. You have to swap batteries. But it’s smaller lighter and swapping is doable, you can see swapping batteries I Taiwanese scooters.
Please do a video on log9 material
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This is an mile stone....new inovation
We have also got this technology for EV battries we will also help- our industries. Thanks.
यह बहुत अच्छा विचार है
Hey super pa..
But cost will be same as lithium ion or different?
very high
The theorical physics already saw the possibility long time ago but investment in RD is not there until. .
i invented air to air battery :D , secret is there .. single shot run over 5000km , and each charge cost around $5 :)
How it works?
This great for boat,and outdoor
Bro are you using any electric vehicles?
Is it the flux capacitor (Back to the future)??
Ionic air as electrolyte but can we apply fuel cell as the idea with a twist the is the same all it need is a choice.
This battery can’t currently be recharged, so needs replacement. Thus not viable. However it could be the basis of new battery chemistry which will have high density.
I love total secrets...
Recyclable but not a rechargeable battery, by the way.
It takes twice the energy to recycle the byproduct as it produces....
Would you say an alkaline battery powered flashlight could last x number of hours "on a single charge"? Of course not. "On a single charge" implies it can be recharged. Aluminum air batteries consume the aluminum and can NOT be recharged. They must be replaced with a new battery just like the disposable batteries on your flashlight. Can you imagine the cost and inconvenience of having to take your car in to the shop every 3 to 4 weeks to replace the battery?
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Very nice info. 👍
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Great 👍
I have researching about graphine battery it will b the future and it is safer than lithium
Super Sir a new step
Congrats
Let's see what about this technique