Can Two Roadies Beat One Time Trial Bike?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Is riding with another cyclist faster than riding a time trial bike? In this video, Hank and Conor team up to take on Si on his new Orbea Ordu TT bike to see which is faster in a head to head race!
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Shall we try 3 riders vs a TT bike next? 🤔
Keep going until the breakaway fails. "Shut up legs!"
Yes
Also,as recent as 2011, well its pretty recent in cycling history 😂
No, you should have made Si one of the two duo riders to have that control factor.
Nah how about three GCN riders against one GTN rider, over an Ironman bike leg.....🤔
With everyone on TT bikes, the GTN rider would have the advantage of being more accustomed to riding both the distance and being in the aero position, but the GCN riders have the advantage of being pure cyclists........
Could be interesting as both have advantages and weaknesses
I'm like 30 seconds in and I'm laughing at the idea of Conor sheltering behind Hank.
Hank and Connor should have employed invisible Aero bars in their riding style. Maybe it would have helped.
Was literally thinking the same thing
Conor: What is all that noise?
Wind: It's me.
I was thinking the same thing!
Hank can't shelter behind Conor either, all the air goes underneath
Best GCN Video in awhile! Enjoyed the screen chemistry of Connor, Hank and Simon! Brought out a real LOL. Thanks!
Really nice & funny video in a while. They should do more stuff like this
I agree, great video. Reminds me of old Top Gear!
Agreed - great vid!
I had no idea how much I'd been missing Si's Beep, beep, beep, beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep....
Gold
Siiiiiiiiiiimoooooooon
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Yes they need to do that more. I been doing it everytime I start my commute lmao
This now requires a GCN team time trial. Here are the teams, Ollie and Manon, Si and Dan, Hank and Conor
Not a bad idea at all. However, I think Nigel and George should take some part in proceedings.
Manon and Hank are clearly a dream team; put Ollie with Conor, as Ollie's a bit taller and can shelter Conor.
How about GTN vs GCN and have them do both TT and road bikes. You would be emphasizing the roadie bike handling and paceline skills vs the Tri riders having better positions and familiarity with riding a TT bike. My money would be on GTN on the Tri bikes and GCN on the road bikes.
Hm hank and Connor are a bit too strong together
I wonder how much mineral water you have in stock to convince Dan to do a time trial
More videos like these more like the old gcn videos keep them coming. That TT bike looks amazing I would feel nervous rising a TT bike on a public road.
Si is still a beast though 👍
Si’s face when the time was revealed was priceless.
Hank's reaction says it all 😂
@@GreatJoey91 when simon started to laugh, hank knew that he had lost ;-))
"Just 360 watts"
@@samuelclaircote3976 13:40
@@rickjohnson4887 Oh! My mistake! Sorry for misunderstanding.
Puts them at just under a 22 min 10 mile/16km time trial.
Not blistering but still pretty quick. Si was closer to 20 mins.
@@samuelclaircote3976 It's actually 13min
@@samuelclaircote3976 lol did you watch that and really think they averaged 12mph? Looked a tad quicker then 12 lol
When following Si on Strava spoilers the video - Sick effort by all three!
spillage at kom zone lol
3 grown men, probably, having the best times of their life
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The Si-borg still has it; he'll be grinning on this one for a while. Ah, the competitor streak runs strong in you Si. Well done mate
always loved these GCN challenges. Challenge suggestion: GCN presenter relay (two teams). 1 round road, 1 round TT, final round gravel/cross.
The perfect trifecta of GCN presenters! This video was brilliant in every way!!
Thanks, Donna!
Thumbs up for Si's suffering. His position is not even ultra-refined either. But 360 for 13 mins is solid power on the TT bike.
This episode deserves its own The Breakaway Episode.. Bradley Wiggins sharing his knowledge of time trials, Brian Smith on the big screen analyzing the teamwork of Hank and Connor, Bernie interviewing Si at the end of the race, and Orla interviewing the owner of the Giro Helmet that Si got from GCN HQ.
All 3 dislikes as of time of commenting were given by Ollie Bridgewood, Ollie Bridgewood, and Ollie Bridgewood.
They took that man's KOM😄😅😂😂
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Just imagine Si's time if he hadn't taken the Snickers weight penalty...
Or if he had the high socks the UCI is so concerned with.
Or not having the 9 year gap of riding a tt bike
or consumed the Snicker bar prior... an extra 500cal to burn!
Yes! This content is so awesome! Like the content you produced four years ago!!! More like this
Bruh Conor is riding such a large frame that he looks like he is riding a totally different bike compared to Hank...
That’s the largest frame I’ve ever seen.
He’s 6 feet 29 inches. In metric that is one giraffe tall.
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He literally is riding a totally different bike, fool.
James Dahl so what 8ft 5inch
Nothing better than starting the morning with a GCN vid
This is the quality content I come here for. Congrats Si! That was amazing effort by all of them!
Really good watch that one. Loved the result reveal and shock. That is quite some time difference. As others have said, more content like this please.
"who needs friends when you have every aerodynamic device known to humanity?"
I had not realised how tall Connor was, he’s so HUGE! Fantastic video too :). Please GCN do a team TT against GTN!
Not huge, just tall
That was awesooommmmeeeee. I wasn't quite sure which team to side with at the beginning. Aerodynamics over wattage.
Si says he has “no one to let him down,” seemingly forgetting about himself
But he didn't! Even though he thought he would!
Thanks guys!!!! Always fun watching you.
James and Connor look like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito characters in the movie “Twins” 😃
poor connor not only had to ride harder on the front than hank as he’s bigger but also then couldn’t draft him as his whole upper body broke wind
Scary thought being behind a rider as big as Connor as his whole upper body breaks wind (think about it.... 😆)
Colin B that’s a big concern too😂
ha ha .. breaking wind .. ha ha ( sorry schoolboy humour )
My mom taught 5th grade. She says that men never really outgrow the discovery of the magic of farting as a joke.
She said this while giggling. She was really popular with 5th grade boys. She has some real stinkers to share.
Kimberly Sparkles it’s schoolboy (excuse the sexist term), humour.
You are right, we never grow up, put simply, it’s a release from stress and having to always be grown up.
Tell me you’ve never had a secret boogie to a radio track , or done a mildly inappropriate happy celebration, somewhere inappropriate when you thought no one was watching and you were in a great mood because everything was going so right. I know I have. Same thing, it’s just a tension breaker, just with fart humour.
Triathletes everywhere just sat up and pulled up their socks-- oh wait.
Si “this is my aero dance!” Brilliant
Si throwing his celebration trophy on the floor after being so happy wanting to share it was really sad. I hope you enjoyed it, well deserved! Cracking vid for everything else in it though :D
I love this kind of video. Reminds me of the good days of Top Gear. So does that make Si as Clarkson and Conor as May, and James is Hammond. Doc Ollie is definitely coming after to regain that KOM. More please.
Top Ring lol
Ollie just needs to pull out a recumbent and one up Si.
GCN: ... have you ever wondered...
Me: No.
GCN: Well, we have too.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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This was actually super thrilling to watch, I was so sure 2 rides would be faster. And I mean.. Hanks riding position is not exactly "not aero" 😄
Love the chemistry between the presenters in this video! Si's taking of the KOM off Ollie also got a laugh out of me XD
My god that TT bike is beautiful.
Disc brakes aside
Terrific! Awesome video! Surprising results! Looks like you guys were having a blast! Great viewing!
I paused at "just 360 Watts" to cry
Nicely done
I do have a FELT IA16 2018 and I love it
It’s pure power
Cheers from NYC
Best video for a good while. There’s no way Si kept that snack on the bike the whole time though. It must weigh 30g.
Very cool. I did not expect that result at all. Now I would like to see a head to head test of a typical old school TT bike from 10 years ago, vs that new tech monster Orbea.
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Wow! With drafting properties in place, Connor’s TT capabilities and Hank being wicked fast I was not expecting that result. What cool video. Aero is king.
Saw something like this in a way today at the Giro Stage 8 with Alex Dowsett, Congrats!
Well done. Love the banter! I’m sure Si will work this victory into many future show segments!
Next challenge: lets take 3 riders vs 1 tt rider
TT bike will still win because it’s literally an advert for a new TT bike
@@06cdancer didn't notice...
06cdancer and the distance wasn’t far enough for so to be blowing completely
Thanks for lowkey spoiling the result !
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Ah I loved this, back to good old GCN days. Thanks for making me smile
I think if they had trained together to achieve smoother through and off and work on positioning behind the lead rider it definitely would have been slightly the other way...
Yes let's see 3 against one
Probably the best GCN video I’ve seen in a long, long time. Chapeau chaps 👏👏👏
Not if you're up against Pogacar 😂
Freak Dog or two riders from the old sky train.
Omg I discovered this channel because of "GCN en français" this video is great, I always wondered if all that aerodynamic was really helping
I always predicted the TT position would win.
On another note I reckon Hank and Conor should have been doing slightly longer efforts as with the short efforts there is more time spent side by side where they are both getting no benefit of drafting.
It's an interesting optimisation question
How do you know how long their efforts have been?
@@luca3976 . They mention it during the video.
That was a really fun video! Grateful on the win and the KOM lol well deserved 👏
11:36 My heart sank when the Duo hit the floor! 😳😢
This is like Top Gear for Cycling enthusiasts - brilliant video, I loved the balance of bravado banter vs technical review.
I think Alex Dowsett just proved that one time trialist on a normal bike can beat five (and later two) guys working together on similar bikes.
So great serie! I sure that will be on top in end of 2021!
Not the result that I expected, but then Conor and James-Hank didn’t appear to have ridden very well together. It looks as if Hank kept dropping Conor which forced him to have dig deeper to get back up to the wheel each time Hank pulled through. That would have very quickly slowed their overall pace as Conor became progressively tired and therefore slower each time he had to pull.
I had Si's back from the beginning!
When you only have 10k to go you don't need that much recovery...
But strong efforts from everyone!💪👍
I’m increasingly amazed by aero, the boys were absolutely going for it and were nowhere near! Might need to save up for an tt bike, might be able to buy one in 10 years time.
They're about half as fast as a Milan and a lot more expensive.
Wow. I'm amazed. I really didn't think si had a chance. Well done to all. Good video.
Bravo to the kom
I’d love to see these longer like the grand tour but with bikes instead.
With Matt...
they must build their own bikes with second hand components all totaling less than 1000 gbp then ride 200 km race, losers donate their bikes to a local bike club to get new riders into the sport.
This is why I love GCN so much!!! Great video, super entertainment, and really interesting. Thank you!
Ah shoot, when I saw the thumbnail I thought this was going to be a video about you guys riding a tandem bike vs a tt bike and I got so excited
I've been waiting for such video
Thanks 💝
I saw one man on a recumbent take on a whole peloton in an open event. Aero is definitely King.
Finish Strong Cycling until you get to the hill.
@@favorites673 Agreed
I could so easily "waste" a whole day watching GCN videos. Very informative, and a whole lotta fun. The chemistry between all of the team is great. Keep up the great work guys.
Love the vids guys, always so well made👍🏼🇳🇿👍🏼
Poor Ollie!! He lost a KOM!! That was a great and fun video GCN!!
10:11 Happiest. Face. Ever.
The reactions are great. Everybody had a great time. Biggest smile from SI ever
"I was doing 400 watts just holding your wheel" Well, yeah, no draft...LOL!
You guys made that a lot of fun. Thanks. Amazed by result, too. Instructive!
You need to put them on a tandem!!
A tandem TT bike (or would that technically be a TTT bike?) would be awesome
Lovely video, lads. Just the right amount of nerdiness, homour and epic racing! Si, you can never leave GCN, you damn legend🤩
Maybe do this with two roadies who are more closely matched in stature so they actually benefit from drafting. This may change the results more in favour to the roadies.
GCN please do more of these. Great fun, however, I think this confirms that aero wins every time..👍😁🚴
Whenever I pass someone on a time trial bike I always give them a wide girth so I don’t upset their aerodynamic advantage.
I think you mean berth
@@peterneal7724 i get right up their arses personally
Interesting choice of words
Peter Neal and this is why I cycle on my own, because of cyclists with ADHD. It was a typo!
How could it be a typo? "i" and "e" are nowhere near each other on the keyboard
This episode made LOL a lot. Top work guys!
GCN: Have you ever wondered if one rider on a TT bike can beat two riders on road bikes
Me: No, but now you have my attention... 🧐
I had too much fun watching this haha Big ups from São Paulo!!
" Just 360 watts". You people are nuts.
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great video guys! you are one of the few things I can watch that bring real joy in this gloomy year :)
Three riders - gotta have 3 races. They each take turn riding the TT bike while other two do roadie. 😁
I average 10mph on my pannier equipped hybrid but still enjoy watching videos like this, well done people.
Aero optimized Si is ... well ... still Si.
Perhaps you should challenge him
Si has a high ftp even though he's a light guy. If anything he was probably riding close to 40+km/h
Si for the win ;)
@@jaspreetsidhu5708 I worked it out to average 45 km/h giver or take
At 8:40 I was waiting for the lady's dog to take a natural break on the back wheel of Conor's bike. Great video!!
Does Conor actually get any draft at all following Hank?!
He only gets a draft following a bus.
Have they done anything on drafting with different sized riders. Personally I don’t notice a huge difference when drafting big vs small guys...maybe the deflection of the wind means even a small guy puts out a big pocket of clean air
@@jwfriar My friend and I compared this. I'm over 190, he's like 170. We did a 5 minute strava segment and when he was behind me he was in Z2. When I was behind him I was still above threshold. On the flat we have a similar strength
philip k Yeah - I wonder too if it’s shape as well as weight. I have a buddy with super broad shoulders and I suspect he’s just not aero at all, but prob gives me a better draft than a more narrow shouldered person.
I am 6'6". I have no idea whether Zwift is realistic or not, but I never notice any draft effect when I'm outside riding with people. I admit I don't get much of it in zwift either since people just pass me not giving me a chance to draft :)
Fantastic video guys.....!!! Love a head to head challenge!! Trý 3 lads v Ollie on a TT bike now please
Conner: I did a top ten in a TTT in the vuelta.
Well aqua blue was 13th and Conner got dropped and finished 31 seconds down hahahahahahahahahaha
LOL !!! Haha I've been rumbled... memory definitely a little rosy of that day for some reason!
Absolute banger of a video missed this kinda content 👍
The result was expected.
But what I'd like to know - How much fitness has Conor lost in a year? Last year he was holding 440 watts easily for "how long can you hold world hour record pace". This was only a 10km effort, could he hold 440watts for this?
This is a great episode! Excellent work Simon! I recently acquired a TT bike and I am smashing a lot of the local KOMs 👌🏻Thanks for another great show!
Awesome.... aero Ollie done in by his own love for aero, she’s a cruel world 😉
It is fitting.
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I have to admit that I was not at all interested in TT-bikes. But the way Conor, Hank and Si are presenting their challenge is ... phe...no...me..nal! And you learn a lot about riding in shelter and Aero bikes including great entertainment. And btw, congrats to the KOM! ;-)
Conor looks like he's 9 feet tall
He is
He is
This is cursed
This is cursed
I would not want to get a seat behind him in the cinema.
09:51 "Excuse my pursuiter's cough" HA ha. I'm using that. Great fun video, thanks guys.
Would have been even more interesting to have stuck someone used to riding aero on the TT bike.
Shame you couldn’t have talked one of the GTN team into it - or were you scared to? 😉
I would love to see this team time trials GCN vs. GTN
That was the plan, but they were a bit busy, unfortunately!
Well if Sy already beats you guys, Mark woul hace made even more damage 🤣 maybe with 3 riders
André Bonilha lol I was thinking less beating GTN more humiliating, but was hoping that GCN would take the bait for some fun.
25miles of straight road. 4of GCN’s best vs 1TT PRO