Gotta love the CC's status as the small nation forced to survive through adaptation. Their two most iconic 'mechs (the Vindicator and Cataphract) are the product of hardship and necessity, and their other iconic machine (the Raven) was proof of unequaled innovation on the part of the smallest nation to attempt to balance the scales. Without the Helm Memory Core being rediscovered yet, House Liao was already beginning to work out advanced electronics warfare components for themselves again. Meanwhile, Steiner was innovating the world of BattleMechs by... putting a hatchet on them. Truly groundbreaking stuff, Defiance.
The CC is to me like that little kid on the block, constantly made fun of and bullied, who learns how to make battle armor to defend himself out of toothpaste and aluminum. Love my boys so much.
@@LoreReloaded It's a series I hope would never get adapted as a TV show or movie...there'd be too much to put on film...and a lot they can try to take out because of modern day social politics. Thankfully HBS's game based on this series isn't that bad but has obviously things in it...but nothing that would take you out
@@LoreReloaded just a heads up, what with games workshop taking a hot steamy dump all over the 40k fandom and it's animators (rip text to speech) there's a HUGE migration away from 40k to Battletech so if you were looking for an opportunity to really double down on Battletech, NOW IS THE TIME. Battletech groups are increasing in size by 500+%. Also, keep up the good work. Maybe covering a lore event that Tex of the black pants legion and Tex talks Battletech fame hasn't in great detail could be advantageous.
The Capellan Confederation was very much inspired by the state communism of the Soviet Union and China, mixed with the medieval feudal structure present across the Inner Sphere.
@cyotee doge well not quite because battletech has companies and enough resources to make even the smallest dirtball empire capable of supplying their local needs, until comstar shows up anyways
I was also getting hints of the Confederate States of America, with the growing racism, losing territory, and a confederacy that isn’t really a confederacy.
I'm thoroughly enjoying your battletech videos. I understand it's not the bulk of your work, but I really do appreciate it, and look forward to the next time you cover it. Especially if it covers the remaining Inner Sphere and Periphery states, like the Lyran Commonwealth and Magistracy of Canopus.
I don’t believe the CC is socialist. What makes you believe that this is the case? I know a lot of Americans are very confused on what constitutes socialism. While the CC and its member states have had different forms of government over time, the version portrayed in the 3025 forward is absolutely an autocratic monarchy with an authoritarian bent. This is the near polar opposite of socialism as an economic or political consideration.
Just getting into Battletech, really excited! as a 40k refugee who happens to be a socialist, I am really pleased that this new fandom has (at the very least) a flanderised version of my idealology represented!
Just found your channel about the ferengi and romulans and thought it was good, then I found out you talk about battletech too. Well okay I am subscribed! I even hit the bell which I rarely do, you should feel special now lol!
Pssssh, you mean it's amazing that someone can not be a bunch of frauds pretending to have honor when they have none, and instead act like who they truly are.
@@kahldris1228 battletech everyone is a hypocrite, and the second most hypocritical are Draconis Combine. Meanwhile even house Liao while full to the brim of absolute nutjobs, they're honest nutjobs that anyone can acknowledge as being lunatics, even the most diehard of Confederation Loyalists. And i mean hey, the majority of my favorite mechs come from the Confederation as well as stealth armor (my favorite TT suport equipment)
How To Fight Capellans: Step One - Hang back in a defensive posture and wait for them to start shooting eachother. Step Two - Wait for the gunfire and screaming to taper off to a dull roar. Step Three - Walk in and finish off the the survivors before picking up as much salvage as you can carry. Step Four - Profit!
The ilclan era pretty much disproves that, though. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" might as well be the wolf empire and clan motto.
@@biscuithammer00 if the setting moves forward the clans star league is pretty much guaranteed to collapse from rebellions, and will be accelerated if they make the same mistake as many before: messing with the bull.
All 5 of the major states eventually evolved into feudal plus style empires. Some more autocratic than the next and some with the pretenses of some other form of government but let’s face it, even freedom loving Hanse was a state sponsor of terrorism and held his own nephew hostage to ensure good behavior from on of his March lords. With the top level looking like that, you don’t want to be getting in the way. The nail that sticks out gets hammered, and how are you gonna collectivize yourself into something bigger than a March lord? At that stage you’d have to be popular uprising level strong in numbers and belief, so yeah, collectivism doesn’t seem to work well in this universe unless your demands are to stfu and get back to work lol.
“Welcome, new students, to the Sian Institute For Vocational Enrichment. Here is your syllabus and your rifle. Please take a moment to ensure the serial numbers match.”
"Never trust capellens or anything they say, theyll always stab you in the back just to get there way. The only thing thats worst is there SHIT substandard pay, i guess ill drop once more" hymm of the mech warrior
"In Capellan officer training school, there is a test for entry where blocks of varying shapes and sizes are put through holes of corresponding shape and size. This results in two kinds of officers populating the Capellan military: Those who are moderately intelligent and those that are incredibly strong..."
War is politics by other means. The guns worked just fine. There was simply no real desire to use them with any thing other than a less than half-assed approach.
From what he says, and a cursory reading of the Sarna entry, they’re Imperial China with some socialist and modern nation state characteristics (and mechs)
@@wolfsruhm If all I ever do is Star Trek - I think I'd go crazy. I know I'm one note and it feeds my kids.. but sometimes i got to be a bit more creative as well ;)
It is 1980s. Capellans are not China, because at the time most were peasants farming rice. No mechs or even machinery. Maximilian Liao is unlike Deng Xiaoping bringing factories from abroad. So who looks more like Maximilian? Of course, the Chinese inspired villain Ming the Merciless, who is more an American villain with Chinese looks. Ming had a rogue daughter Aura, incarnated by Romano Liao, and the hero Justin Xiang Allard would do the prowess of a Flash Gordon working for the Earthlings, I mean, the Davion. And he would stay with Candance Liao aka Dale Arden. Mongo, just like Capellan Confederation, had the technology of these cultures varying from groups at a stone age level, to highly technologically advanced peoples. High tech in China 1980s? Nope, not China back then. Sorry people. It is Mongo. All of these cultures in Capellan Mongo are shown as being under the domination of the tyrant Maximilian Ming Liao. Flash Gordon Allard is shown as unifying the peoples of Mongo against Ming. Just like Ming, Maximilian was an extraordinarily clever planner and manipulator. He reversed what had been a collapsing military, ultimately achieving a position of surprising strength. Ming was portrayed mostly like a Chinese emperor, but the last 400 year dynasty in China never was after military adventures. Ming wanted the adventure of conquering Earth. Flash Gordon inspired Star Wars, and was a predominant figure in the American culture of the 1980s, and it is fair to consider that it must have influenced the creation of the Capellan more than the poor and mostly countryside China of the 1980s, which showed traces of manufacture in the small special zones. Battletech is predominantly an American game, and it is the product of its time. Flash Gordon and Ming were dominant figures in the collective imagination of Americans. I do not think many Americans, especially Battletech writers, went to China to see how people were living, just to find a contrast of advanced tech and stone age. So just like Ming, Maximilian Liao and his kingdom are American pop culture, with Flash Gordon inspiration, separated from the IRL politics of 1980s.
@@FanimusMaximus as a 40k fan id imagine you would support ruthless boarder sociopathic profiteering. GW certainly does. yeah….. cause the Capellan state with all that arranged marriage thing. Theres a reason even the Taurians tear them a new one. Free spirit, self sufficiency, entrepreneurial spirit, risk taking, and as little governmental interference as possible. Thats how you advance human civilization. Embrace umbilical cords, dependency, fear, and the idea that you cant fend for yourself…… and well end up like The Capellan Confederation.
Gotta love the CC's status as the small nation forced to survive through adaptation. Their two most iconic 'mechs (the Vindicator and Cataphract) are the product of hardship and necessity, and their other iconic machine (the Raven) was proof of unequaled innovation on the part of the smallest nation to attempt to balance the scales. Without the Helm Memory Core being rediscovered yet, House Liao was already beginning to work out advanced electronics warfare components for themselves again. Meanwhile, Steiner was innovating the world of BattleMechs by... putting a hatchet on them. Truly groundbreaking stuff, Defiance.
The CC is to me like that little kid on the block, constantly made fun of and bullied, who learns how to make battle armor to defend himself out of toothpaste and aluminum. Love my boys so much.
So glad to see more and more youtubers covering Battletech. Incredibly underappreciated universe.
Same!
Just a required shout out to Tex and the BlackPantsLegion. Check them out for great Battletech lore
The voice is hard to listen to though
@@devilmayclarify666 that's why I'm here tho lol
Would love to see you do a full series about the Clans invading the Inner Sphere. Some of the best books I read in High School.
If this series picks up and gets steam (or I can justify it) then that’ll be the next one :)
Well lets always remember the glorious conquest of Sheliak by Clan Ghost Bear... our elementals won 84 to 3 :D
@@LoreReloaded It's a series I hope would never get adapted as a TV show or movie...there'd be too much to put on film...and a lot they can try to take out because of modern day social politics. Thankfully HBS's game based on this series isn't that bad but has obviously things in it...but nothing that would take you out
@@JustSumGuy01 well there is this animated piece of Fedcom propaganda about clan invasion...
@@LoreReloaded just a heads up, what with games workshop taking a hot steamy dump all over the 40k fandom and it's animators (rip text to speech) there's a HUGE migration away from 40k to Battletech so if you were looking for an opportunity to really double down on Battletech, NOW IS THE TIME. Battletech groups are increasing in size by 500+%. Also, keep up the good work. Maybe covering a lore event that Tex of the black pants legion and Tex talks Battletech fame hasn't in great detail could be advantageous.
The Capellan Confederation was very much inspired by the state communism of the Soviet Union and China, mixed with the medieval feudal structure present across the Inner Sphere.
@cyotee doge No, state control of resources rather than local. So Maoist/Leninist rather than Marxist.
@cyotee doge well not quite because battletech has companies and enough resources to make even the smallest dirtball empire capable of supplying their local needs, until comstar shows up anyways
I was also getting hints of the Confederate States of America, with the growing racism, losing territory, and a confederacy that isn’t really a confederacy.
Yes, more Battletech. Love it.
My favorite faction makes an appearance.
I'm thoroughly enjoying your battletech videos. I understand it's not the bulk of your work, but I really do appreciate it, and look forward to the next time you cover it. Especially if it covers the remaining Inner Sphere and Periphery states, like the Lyran Commonwealth and Magistracy of Canopus.
I feel like the capellans are exactly the kind of thing someone rolls in Stellaris, "You're going to be socialized whether you like it or not!"
That Mechwarrior 2 into 🥰 that looked so freakin epic when I was a kid, still does, ah the power of nostalgia 😅
Very excited to see you doing battletech videos. Great job looking forward on more of these :)
Hegemony
Heh - jeh - moan - ee
OR
Heh - jeh- men - ee
Hedge-ee-money
I love your trek stuff but really looking forward to more Battletech!
Intercept-
Remember the 6th of June, when the heretics corrupted the Word of the Blessed Blake!
I don’t believe the CC is socialist. What makes you believe that this is the case? I know a lot of Americans are very confused on what constitutes socialism. While the CC and its member states have had different forms of government over time, the version portrayed in the 3025 forward is absolutely an autocratic monarchy with an authoritarian bent. This is the near polar opposite of socialism as an economic or political consideration.
"socialism is when the government does stuff"
The Capellan Confederacy as the strongest Inner Sphere state is ridiculous. Did someone get a hold of a monkey paw or something?
The fedcom civil war.
damn ... Am I a nerd to recognize all the intro played in the background? Sad just is the definitive lack of the Mechwarrior 3 intro in this T_T
YAAAAAAAAS, more Stompy, Shooty, more realistic than most, Mech Time
Just getting into Battletech, really excited! as a 40k refugee who happens to be a socialist, I am really pleased that this new fandom has (at the very least) a flanderised version of my idealology represented!
I wasn't aware our content creator had done Battletech videos.
Just found your channel about the ferengi and romulans and thought it was good, then I found out you talk about battletech too. Well okay I am subscribed!
I even hit the bell which I rarely do, you should feel special now lol!
I appreciate this look into Battle tech. Keep up the good work!
"he-gone-emy"?
this is very professional battletch lore. subscribed
Heh-Jem-Uh-Nee
Great job with the summary! The confederation is the one successor state I know the least about so I'm happy to listen.
This video was amazing, i hope you do more!
Its amazing someone can make even Draconis Combine looks reasonable...
The dragon is nothing but reasonable. So long as your bowing before the dragon and obeying the principles of bushido....
Pssssh, you mean it's amazing that someone can not be a bunch of frauds pretending to have honor when they have none, and instead act like who they truly are.
@@codyraugh6599 Sorry I'm not quite following how you worded that, interested in what you meant exactly.
@@kahldris1228 battletech everyone is a hypocrite, and the second most hypocritical are Draconis Combine. Meanwhile even house Liao while full to the brim of absolute nutjobs, they're honest nutjobs that anyone can acknowledge as being lunatics, even the most diehard of Confederation Loyalists. And i mean hey, the majority of my favorite mechs come from the Confederation as well as stealth armor (my favorite TT suport equipment)
@@codyraugh6599 haha ah gotcha you actually make a decent point about house liao lol. I'm still laughing lol.
Yay more battletech. Great show lore (not being sarcastic)
How To Fight Capellans: Step One - Hang back in a defensive posture and wait for them to start shooting eachother. Step Two - Wait for the gunfire and screaming to taper off to a dull roar. Step Three - Walk in and finish off the the survivors before picking up as much salvage as you can carry. Step Four - Profit!
"Battletech is a series of nations learning the hard way that collectivism doesn't works" -Razorfist
The ilclan era pretty much disproves that, though. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" might as well be the wolf empire and clan motto.
@@biscuithammer00 the clans lost
@@ZontarDow Tell that to the wolf empire
@@biscuithammer00 if the setting moves forward the clans star league is pretty much guaranteed to collapse from rebellions, and will be accelerated if they make the same mistake as many before: messing with the bull.
All 5 of the major states eventually evolved into feudal plus style empires. Some more autocratic than the next and some with the pretenses of some other form of government but let’s face it, even freedom loving Hanse was a state sponsor of terrorism and held his own nephew hostage to ensure good behavior from on of his March lords. With the top level looking like that, you don’t want to be getting in the way. The nail that sticks out gets hammered, and how are you gonna collectivize yourself into something bigger than a March lord? At that stage you’d have to be popular uprising level strong in numbers and belief, so yeah, collectivism doesn’t seem to work well in this universe unless your demands are to stfu and get back to work lol.
“Welcome, new students, to the Sian Institute For Vocational Enrichment. Here is your syllabus and your rifle. Please take a moment to ensure the serial numbers match.”
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"Never trust capellens or anything they say, theyll always stab you in the back just to get there way. The only thing thats worst is there SHIT substandard pay, i guess ill drop once more" hymm of the mech warrior
Capellans dont even understand concept of money...
Ahhh a fellow man of culture I see, Praise z0rg!
I fought my way through '49 even '52. With no fucks given you'd be surprised by what you can do!
"In Capellan officer training school, there is a test for entry where blocks of varying shapes and sizes are put through holes of corresponding shape and size. This results in two kinds of officers populating the Capellan military: Those who are moderately intelligent and those that are incredibly strong..."
Ah my men of culture! Praise z0rg! And long live a free Van Zandt!
Thank you I love Battletech
Long live the Chancellor!
Do the 3050 supplement. It takes the b tech universe from 3037 to 3050, right before the clans attack.
More battletech lore!
The most intelligent people in battletech with enforced scholarship and workforce.
Ah capellans, where backstabbing is as common as the common cold.
Hedge-a-mony.... Please. Thank you.
Pretty sure it’s “huh-gem-oh-knee”
Not as familiar with Battletech. Glad to learn something new.
Stong-armed and slightly unfree. However they are fairly powerful. Quite a toss up...
what about Clan Mech (Battletech)
War is politics by other means. The guns worked just fine. There was simply no real desire to use them with any thing other than a less than half-assed approach.
Ahh ok I get it now. More battle tech plx
I always felt that they represented everything bad about Imperial China,
From what he says, and a cursory reading of the Sarna entry, they’re Imperial China with some socialist and modern nation state characteristics (and mechs)
Free VTOL rides for Cappellans.
North Koera in space.
Also check out Sven van der pPlank’s excellent channel.
Strat-ee-gos
Ahh, the Capellan Confederation Prefecture . . . no relation whatsoever to any other CCPs, right?
First Like and First Comment
First like, maybe. 😋
Be bo be bo
Achtung! Achtung!
alle steiner einheiten. Statusbericht. reagieren.
*(Distant Sounds of screaming and Polka Music)*
*Happy Steiner Scout Lance noises intensify*
"Es gibt Bienen in meinem Cockpit!"
you didn't joke havin problems with CBS, did ya? Why else would YOU touch Battletech with a ten foot pole ???
;op
Just to stretch my legs..
Thank you for this.
@@LoreReloaded Hwy, all power to you, go for it Tiger
@@wolfsruhm If all I ever do is Star Trek - I think I'd go crazy. I know I'm one note and it feeds my kids.. but sometimes i got to be a bit more creative as well ;)
Wow, love to hate on capellens huh?
it's FRANCO Liao, the Italian name, not Frank.
Other than that, all good
also demesne is pronounced similar to domain, afaik
never trust cappellans, their normal greeting is a backstab
That's not socialism.that's straserism.
It is 1980s. Capellans are not China, because at the time most were peasants farming rice. No mechs or even machinery.
Maximilian Liao is unlike Deng Xiaoping bringing factories from abroad. So who looks more like Maximilian? Of course, the Chinese inspired villain Ming the Merciless, who is more an American villain with Chinese looks. Ming had a rogue daughter Aura, incarnated by Romano Liao, and the hero Justin Xiang Allard would do the prowess of a Flash Gordon working for the Earthlings, I mean, the Davion. And he would stay with Candance Liao aka Dale Arden.
Mongo, just like Capellan Confederation, had the technology of these cultures varying from groups at a stone age level, to highly technologically advanced peoples. High tech in China 1980s? Nope, not China back then. Sorry people. It is Mongo.
All of these cultures in Capellan Mongo are shown as being under the domination of the tyrant Maximilian Ming Liao. Flash Gordon Allard is shown as unifying the peoples of Mongo against Ming.
Just like Ming, Maximilian was an extraordinarily clever planner and manipulator. He reversed what had been a collapsing military, ultimately achieving a position of surprising strength. Ming was portrayed mostly like a Chinese emperor, but the last 400 year dynasty in China never was after military adventures. Ming wanted the adventure of conquering Earth.
Flash Gordon inspired Star Wars, and was a predominant figure in the American culture of the 1980s, and it is fair to consider that it must have influenced the creation of the Capellan more than the poor and mostly countryside China of the 1980s, which showed traces of manufacture in the small special zones.
Battletech is predominantly an American game, and it is the product of its time. Flash Gordon and Ming were dominant figures in the collective imagination of Americans. I do not think many Americans, especially Battletech writers, went to China to see how people were living, just to find a contrast of advanced tech and stone age.
So just like Ming, Maximilian Liao and his kingdom are American pop culture, with Flash Gordon inspiration, separated from the IRL politics of 1980s.
:D
You know what I refer to Capellans as? I have a very specific nickname for them. Targets.
hegemony = h' JEMM eny
Commies in speece
The ONE place that hasn’t been corrupted by Capitalism!
@@FanimusMaximus as a 40k fan id imagine you would support ruthless boarder sociopathic profiteering. GW certainly does.
yeah….. cause the Capellan state with all that arranged marriage thing. Theres a reason even the Taurians tear them a new one. Free spirit, self sufficiency, entrepreneurial spirit, risk taking, and as little governmental interference as possible. Thats how you advance human civilization. Embrace umbilical cords, dependency, fear, and the idea that you cant fend for yourself…… and well end up like The Capellan Confederation.
Say Hegemony correctly.
Socialism must mean something different where your'e from.
First off, it's Battletech (or BattleTech). No matter what, it's one word.
Second off, Comstar > Davion > Steiner > the rest of the worthless garbage.