I've been saying from the moment it was released that it should have been a stuff pack. It would have been an amazing stuff pack, but it was really disappointing as a game pack.
I wish i could buy the world and the build mode without the gameplay. Even if it were not bugged i would not want the new weddings, i am not interested, i am not a storyteller type.
It would be awesome if someone could come out with a mod to turn off the gameplay. But even with my absolutely zero knowledge of how mods are created that seems like too much to ask for
**Spoilers*** I am surprised by a lot of the ranking, probably mostly in game packs and expansions. It’s so fascinating to see what people most like! Spa day had updates which I think made it better with the manicures and pedicures, yoga classes etc. the only thing is that aspirations were glitched out, not sure if it got fixed. My Wedding Stories I thought would rank much lower seeming as though it doesn’t work and essentially ruined weddings! I guess the beautiful world and cas/build buy was strong. But this pack was probably the most disappointing and controversial release for me. Get Famous is one of my faves so that’s surprising, I agree the world wasn’t ideal and oddly didn’t seem to suit the game graphics. I am shocked it ranked below Get Together. Island Living gameplay was bland,I would only buy for the world, build/buy and cas. Eco Lifestyle is such a good pack imo! I would have thought it ranked higher. Snowy escape being ranked so high shocked me too! It seemed very niche to me, so I am confused 🤣 Really glad to see seasons and cottage living up high, I think those are well deserving! Great video James. And thanks everyone for voting! Xx
@@deligracy Yes I was surprised by how high Snow Escape was too! A lot of the build/buy mode is somewhat niche (though admittedly there are some amazing pieces, like the kitchen set and the simple modern windows) and the gameplay absolutely needed something more imo. The CAS and the world are beautiful though. I wonder if people rated it a little higher since we got platforms as a free update with Snowy Escape? Or because that's when the sims team really started working with creators to build lots? Thinking about it, Snowy Escape was a weirdly impactful release - even though they weren't features that exclusively came with the pack, platforms and working with creators on packs really changed the game!
@@TheGracefulChariot I bought Snowy Escape pretty early because of the build/buy, mostly buy. My last game obsession was Animal Crossing, and I was missing the Japanese style build items. ☺ I totally get what you mean about the gameplay, I've probably had a Sim ski like once, but I do think Japanese aesthetics are popular. And personally I love the snowy mountain world, my parents just moved to the mountains in real life, and I've never seen anything as pretty.
I'm shocked that Eco Lifestyle rated low on gameplay specifically, I expected not everyone to love the build/buy (not everyone is looking to live in a shipping container?) but I love the gameplay. But it's occurring to me that if you're not specifically playing Eco Lifestyle, the gameplay that's the most in your face is forgetting to vote on NAPs and suddenly getting your power shut off, or having to deal with broken community lots because your Sims are stealing your benches. I love replaying Eco Lifestyle, maybe second only to Cottage Living. But NAPs can definitely be annoying.
A toggle for turning off the StrangerVille Infection would've made the game pack even better. I love the uniqueness and how the Build Mode stylistically gels with Get to Work (which were reasons I got StrangerVille on release), but I haven't touched it since I played the story because I would've preferred to play in a not-infected StrangerVille like, 99.99% of the time.
Yeah, I think overall, Sims 4 packs could use more toggle switches. A lot of the stuff they add is just always on and I don't always want to use everything like that
I agree, I would have bought it if it weren’t for the lack of toggle. I still miss sims 3 toggles to this day. I actually had the supernatural pack because I knew I could turn off individually the existence of occult sims. I never bought werewolves and vampires because i don’t want them in my game all the time, but I would absolutely buy them for their build mode more than anything and for the occasional gameplay. More toggles needed, give me back the age span sliders from sims 3, hoping EA goes back to these ideas for sims 5
@@aylayzrianne there’s already a tmex mod that’s just a strangerville toggle! i do love the world but the infected sims always freaked me out really bad so i was desperately searching for a mod like this before i even touched the world 😭
The game overall, packs and no packs NEEDS more settings for everything. You can't even rebind keys. P for pause? Seriously??!? As a 4x player let me have my spacebar for pause please
Create a new game and cheat your way through the strangerville story until you finish it. After that, just open and Save As every new save you make so you'll have a non-infected version everyt time.
Yeah but in the sims 3 you could control the dog and give it friends and have him do stuff. I love the pack anyway but it's truly not the best in the franchise
@@jecsibethguevara9819 I was so bummed that you couldn't control the cats and dogs anymore! You can't even see their needs or relationships. It makes it so much less fun. Honestly, the original Sims Unleashed was so much better than this one is. I even liked the world better to be honest. I miss the Zydeco music and you had more pets options!
What people need to understand with lists like these is, that they are meant for people who are actually looking into buying some DLC and not for those who hate the whole concept. Personally I did buy some of the more impactful Expansion and Game packs over the years and I wish I watched something like this before doing so. It would have helped immensely. Anyway, thanks for the video. You are the only Sim RUclipsr I actually enjoy watching.
Definitely! And the way I asked the questions was for those who had actually purchased the packs, so that means you'll get reviews from people who were interested in the idea. I think it gives a good view of whether or not what was promised was delivered in each pack
@@JamesTurnerYT Since the data is so skewed on Batuu, do you think it'd be better or worse to do a different ranking for it with the 0's removed due to the more than likelihood that people who don't actually own the pack voted 0 just because they don't like it ? Or even slashing the amount of 0's that were voted on so it represents the bell curve trend we've seen ? Granted there is the possibility of some true 0's, maybe even a higher trend, but due to the staggering amount of them, false 0's are more likely in this case than true 0's-- that way we could potentially see a more accurate rating on Batuu.
@@xkittyxxkatx I get what you're saying ! The build mode and some of the hair styles are probably the only good things about the pack itself but even then, it's on a case by case basis for people bc we all have unique tastes. I was just wondering tbh since it's hard to get a true read out on Batuu
Can I just quickly say the amount of work that went into editing this video…the fonts/colors (such as the rating bubbles), icons, graphics, snippets from the pack trailers, all of it…pretty great. As always, thanks for producing top tier content James! Hands down my favorite content creator/Simmer/RUclipsr/all of the other tech titles that are fitting that I can’t think of 😅
@@ruminationstation4200 how hard is it to listen to fans and make a game almost everyone likes? It’s like they love disappointment added to their reputation.
@@jean-mauricenestler3761 Thats not how business works, its why customer relations became a thing, nobody is too big to fail. Eventually it will catch up to them when they push it too far.
What I hate of Magnolia Promenade is not the small number of lots. It is that there is nothing to do outside of the lots. Pretend shopping and youa re out, or you have to own a store, and if you do, you are better off building it somewhere where you can use the world.
I actually use it more often than I realize. Mostly through live-in shop and studios (akin to Sims 2 Open For Business). I'd also add a resturant there because it's so freaking buggy (this is before Carl's mod.).
I had a family live there and think it's a pretty good little world. There's a playground, fishing spot, tables, food stalls from Seasons and you can wade in the water. That's pretty much the standard for older worlds and much more than Del Sol Valley's living neighbourhoods have to offer, especially the upper class one.
The worst thing about it is by far that sims will only leave it on this one spot at the pier. Forgot to send your sim home via map screen? Enjoy watching them waddle around the neighborhood for a minute.
The only thing I use Magnolia Promenade for is fishing for cowberries. And once another sim asked mine out on a date and it was to a shop there. Otherwise, it's pretty useless. I use the gameplay of that pack heaps though.
Honestly, I feel like what this mainly shows is that a pack will get good rankings as long as it has great build/buy and/or a great world, because those are the ONLY things keeping My Wedding Stories afloat. Top five, seriously. . . I'm glad you included the "ranked by gameplay" version too, because THAT I feel is gonna be more useful to everyone!
I think that depends on your play style. For me personally, I don’t care too much about gameplay, I mostly build and create sims.. so I think it’s great he ranked it according to all three of those play styles :)
That said, keep in mind that this is the opinions of people who watch James' videos, so we're probably more of a build/buy focused bunch. I was surprised when I first waded into the mods/CC world how much of it was CAS focused, because I'm much more of a build/buy person, and I tend to stick to my own lol. There are a lot of CAS people out there too! It's just not me.
@@bente2580 makes sense, but honestly, considering amount of free mods and cas items on the internet… paying 40$ for clothes may feel very underwhelming for a lot of people, me included
@@bente2580 see i’m the opposite. idc ab cas, i never use ea clothes. i always use cc for my sims. i do appreciate build and buy a bit more though. but gameplay is the biggest thing for me. will i always like playing it or will it get old?
This is incredibly detailed and so insanely impressive! Trust James to go IN on the stats and show us the results in such an interesting and creative way. We see the work that goes into this stuff James and er appreciate it!
@TheSimSupply It really shows how much time and dedication you put into this video. Honestly, Semaj is in his Happy/Graphs Era and we all love to see it. 📊🥹🪴✨️
@James Turner James, I'm always so impressed with your graphics and creativity in your videos and on your website. I really appreciate the time you put in.
@@baigles2012 And I really hope that they take advantage of this free market research for future DLC for Sims 4 and for Sims 5. For me personally, the percentage of people who own each DLC is especially telling. I actually ran some stats about the stats here. I averaged the percentage of people who own packs in each of the four categories (Expansion Pack, Game Pack, Stuff Pack, and Kit) just for giggles. The average ownership rate for kits is only 35.5%. Remove Desert Luxe from the equation (given the probability that most of the people who have it got it when it was free) and that drops to 31.9%. The average rates for both Game Packs and Stuff Packs are in the low-60s (63.9% and 61.4%, respectively), while the average ownership rate for Expansions is 81.74%. No Expansion Pack is owned by less than half of surveyed Sims 4 players. Personally, the conclusion that I draw from this is that Sims players are far more likely to pay for more expensive but more expansive DLCs than for watered-down cheap garbage. Someone posted above about how the total cost of all this DLC at full-price is $870, so honestly in the future I personally would far prefer to see fewer but larger DLCs, and I think this data suggests that I'm probably not alone in that sentiment. I also would like to point out that, if we again exclude Desert Luxe, no kit was owned more than even the least-owned Stuff Pack or Expansion Pack. There were three Game Packs mixed in with those other kits, and one of them was Batuu (which personally I feel should have probably been a separate spin-off game like Sims Castaway Stories was for Sims 2, with maybe some of the build/buy and CAS stuff added either as a free update for the base game or unlocked by purchasing the spin-off game), one was My Wedding Stories (a hot buggy mess), and one was Werewolves (which okay, not everybody goes in for occults, but I personally think that one should rank higher given that it actually works and fits within the Sims franchise).
Get Together is such a useful pack, especially with the ability to group your sims together. You can make clubs, or even just group sims together in a friendship group to make it easier to hang out without needing to call everyone individually to hang out. I'd definitely say that it's the pack I most recommend to my friends, along with Seasons.
The % of owned is extremely helpful to builders, I can look and see which packs are owned the most and try to focus more on using those packs in my builds. I’m such a data nerd so this was so interesting!!! Great job James!!! 👏🏻
I don't normally comment, but I LOVE data. Combining my "normal" job as a business and data analyst along with the Sims was a truly enjoyable experience. I love your graphs and tables and how you presented them. Great video😊
My first thought is always "imagine if proper scientific studies partnered with RUclipsrs to get that many people to respond!" Like clearly it wouldn't be applicable to the vast majority of research, but the ones where you need a lot of data from just random people??? And with the analytics RUclips provides, scientists could partner with channels that have the kind of audience they are looking to target!
@@SLorraineE that’s interesting! You’d have to consider the biases of viewers though (age, nationality, gender, socioeconomic background etc etc) for each RUclipsr’s viewer base. RUclips is probably inhibited by law to release those informations on viewer’s for further cross-checking of responders, not sure 🤔
Get famous, get together, and eco living are actually really fun in my opinion. I feel like people don’t talk about the depth of the get famous pack often, the active career isn’t the only thing you can do with it. You become a celebrity for doing anything, sometimes it shocks me, like getting famous from snowboarding, or even bribing your way into university. It has the best cross pack compatibility of any pack and the reputation system makes it worth to me personally.
I'm blown away by your in depth analysis. I really hope EA is taking notes on all the results. On a side note, you're an amazing content creator! I love all your videos, it's obvious you truly enjoy the game, you're so dedicated and enthusiastic to your job, I can only say great things about you. I'm a long time subscriber, but I'm mostly a lurker, I just wanted to tell how much I appreciate you and how much I enjoy your videos. Sending lots of good vibes for you and Deli, ur both awesome people.
I was so surprised when Batuu was rated higher than Magnolia Promenade. Even though there’s only four lots, you can make it like a shopping centre or pretty much anything you want. And the world itself isn’t bad, it’s just a Willow Creek extension.
Glad you enjoyed it! I tried to show as much info as possible whilst not being overwhelming and for those that want even more, the spreadsheet has all the extra graphs
Right. I’d rate Get Together as one of the top 3 packs IMO. Simply because of the utility it allows for. Got a teen sim that needs friends? Make a club that’s Teens Only and add a few Teens to it. Got a large family? Make a couple Clubs to include each family member and start a gathering. Got a single Sim that’s looking for love? Make a Singles Only club, and make desirable traits a requirement to join the club. Want some extra spice in your game? Make a woohoo club that gathers at lounges, bars, or nightclubs. Want some chaos? Make a Werewolf/Vampire fight club. Clubs are so utilitarian, that just about the only limit is your own imagination. Not just that, but the world is ABSOLUTELY beautiful. There’s even some nice, albeit very simple, lore behind Bernard and Mimsy (the ghosts from The Chalet) My biggest gripe about the pack is that some of the townies are kinda boring, but I think that’s mainly cuz it’s such an early pack.
@@an_avidpanda_lover8349I completely agree. My Sim kids only ever complete the social aspiration thanks to clubs, and they're so useful for helping your distant relatives meet your new baby
As a new player, I truly appreciate the effort and research that was put into this! So many of these are based on personal preferences, which is logical since everyone has their own gameplay style and interests. But seeing the numbers with it of how many people actually own the packs they're rating really helps. It shows which packs people have spent (or are willing to spend) money on, and which were a mistake to buy.
He's the Gemini god of the Sims, Geminis *k n o w* how to take care of Virgos and they know that Virgos love stuff like the Sims, so he just found a way to take care of us, and since geminis love to take care of Virgos for some odd reason, he does a good job , I love Jamie Gemini daddy, all my heroes and best boyfriends have been geminis, I might marry one 💚 who knows 🐛
As someone trained in data and survey creation this has made my day- maybe even week. It's fascinating and I'm so grateful for it. So exciting! Thanks James
This is the most detailed and well organized Sims 4 DLC ranking I have ever seen 😱👏 Good job!! The graphics and all the visuals you designed for this video are so well made and look so professional, I am very impressed 👌 Thanks for doing this!
It would be so cool if we have another city world option. i love city living so much I play in this world a lot, it never gets boring. if sims team release another city world it would be epic
As much as I'd love that, I think the community would immediately lash out and see it as them "double dipping" since City Living's selling point is the apartment building gameplay - there were already people complaining about this when we got Ecolifestyle. I remember when they did that survey with concepts the community would like to see and they pitched the Brazilian coastal city world and even Sims YT'ers were like "oh no, I'm not voting for that, we already have Sulani" when the world they pitched would actually be more akin to San Myshuno with beaches....
@@dreamerbee That’s true the sims community would probably flip out over that but I’m sure it would be fine if they made the residential lots small townhouses/condos or lofts rather than apartments. Also if you look at the packs that are said to come out in 2023 one of the appears to have a bit of a city vibe incorporated so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see something similar in the coming months
@@dreamerbee You’re right, people would lose it. I really hate how we can’t revisit concepts without people getting angry. Especially if it’s something that wasn’t as fleshed out as it could have been the first time around. Like I would love to see more for pets to do, but it’ll never happen with how much people hated my first pet stuff (which admittedly did just seem like stuff they held back from Cats and Dogs)
In my opinion another thing holding discover university back is the amount of time it takes you to go through school. If it wasn’t half your young adult life it wouldn’t be so bad. I really think James did an outstanding job on this presentation! Great job!
It's also so all consuming. If you want to do well and complete quickly you can't do anything except go to class, do homework, and try to keep your needs up in whatever time you have left. I suppose that's accurate to real life but in a depressing way that doesn't make me want to play it.
This has to be one of the best sims 4 ranking videos ever! It's so informative and well-made and the editing is so clean and satisfying! Also I wasn't that surprised by most of the results, especially the worst packs lol and I hope that the Sims team could maybe learn something from this survey since it gives a great insight into what people like/want. Thank you James for an amazing survey and video! 😄
This is such a brilliant video! With all the statistics and your analysis of so many votes. Well done, James, and thank you and thanks to everyone who voted.
I love how you ranked them by each category afterwards. I personally care about gameplay the most. I wouldn’t buy a pack just for the world and build items so some packs were too highly listed in the overall category (like wedding stories). But you’ve convinced me to buy parenthood since it’s the highest rated gameplay!
Thanks for putting so much work into this, so interesting! The biggest surprise to me is Get Together ranking pretty low. I know the gameplay is kind of non-specific but clubs come in handy for so many things! And the world is just perfect
I feel like for some of the older packs, we've gotten so used to them that we no longer recognize them as a pack feature -like cafes and dance clubs for get together, nevermind the interactions, I don't even remember which ones they are. Also, get to work came with the photography skill, which was moved to bg later on, and baking
Both island living and get to work suffered from lack of focus, get to work tried to do too may different things and none of them as good as they could have been, and Island living had that seem feel - mermaids didn’t get a skill tree, and the conservation career felt underdeveloped. This video was such a good look at all the packs with lots of well organized data! Great job!
I am seriously offenced that eco-lifestyle is only number 8!!!! The gameplay, world, create a sim are absolutely fantastic and the ability to craft so much stuff is my absolute favourite!!!!!!!
This is so great. Lot of Tierlists/reviews are made by one person alone, so I'm really excited to see what a large group of people thinks. I was always thinking a lot about the 'gameplay' question in te form. Cause with some packs (that I don't have for obvious reasons) the gameplay as the idea sounds super fun, but the pack is so bugged the gameplay sucks a lot. I'd probably need another category for 'buggyness' :D
Exactly! My daughter was soooo excited for my wedding stories and we told her she could get it, but then when it came out and we heard how it just didnt work she changed her mind and now that I’m playing more, we basically decided we’ll buy it when its fixed lol. I guess she learned from Dine Out to go to RUclips first to see what it’s actually like.
I agree with first point. On the second one though; you were not supposed to vote if you don't own the pack so if it is only an issue with packs you don't own it's not an issue.
I am more and more convinced, this is a home builders game and not a players game. Dream home decorator! I would be so bored by a pack just about home renovation/decoration. As a player, not a builder….I love building community lots with playing purpose, so I LOVE bowling night. I used Bowling Night and movie night to make a (not rabbit hole) theater/bowling multifunctional community lot. Just need to get University so I can update it with a little arcade space. It’s great for sim dates, for a sims family night out, and for sims just getting together with other sims. Getting Sims to dine together is a nightmare in general, but I find I have loads of fun taking them out for bowling or a movie. Or honestly to the gym. I use the climbing wall all the time, which is more than I can say for most of the build/buy stuff. The gym is a great place to meet other sims. So is the bowling alley/movie theater. Pastel pop is my favorite B/B kit cause it actually is great for teen/kid bedrooms and I actually LOVE the pet stuff pack for the lower maintenance small animals. Seperating the pet packs was dirty on EA’s part but I got Cats&Dogs, Pet Stuff, and Parenthood in an EA bundle at a discount so not fazed…felt like I got a good deal. But sometimes I want my single sims to have a pet that’s not a full on cat or dog and the rodents are great fun. I actually have prob played with them more than cats and dogs actually. Not a builder, so the build/buy isn’t make or break for me.
Eco Lifestyle is REALLY good. Surprisingly good actually. One of the most underrated packs along with Get Together. People don't realize how good those 2 packs are. :3
I love Get Together! It’s so good, it needs more love. Eco Lifestyle is also a good pack but it’s a little buggy for me (mainly NAPs randomly turning themselves back on even though I have them turned off in settings).
Sulani and Werewolves were the experiences I had the most fun with in Sims 4. I had a sim who basically worked 4 hours a day in Sulani, and basically just lived a peaceful life in Sulani enjoying the new world. In Werewolves, I made a hippy werewolf. The story I made with my hippy sim and the gameplay made it so fun to play with. Get famous was fun, too.
My Wedding Stories (broken, pretty but tedious, focus on real life events) ranking above Strangerville (distinctive, supernatural, story focused, not for everyone) sums up my experiences in the Sims community so well.
This seems like it was so much effort to create this video. Thank you so much for putting in the work for all of us who buy packs every once in a while and decide on which one is worth it.
As a person who had 3 semesters of statistics in Uni I A) applaud you James on how detailled yet comprehensive the video is and B) ask for a second more detailed analysis with hypotheses, correlatios, etc. Example: a hypothesis might be that people who got vampires also like werewolves, or that people who love cottage loving despise city living. The crazier the hypothesis the better :D SPSS is your best friend ;)
I'm going to guess Season's is the best expansion. It's just superior in terms of content and gameplay. Of course it is buggy but, sad I have to say this, what isn't in the sims Edit: Absolute betrayal
I think maybe seasons is the best but cottage living is my favourite. It’s hard to explain how that is possible, but I think seasons has people’s brains but cottage living has their heart 😁
This was super interesting! One thing I thought of when rating the worlds was collectibles - it annoys me that a lot of the worlds just don’t have any & I don’t get why. I don’t often look for them but in some challenges it’s become frustrating that you can’t find stuff in all worlds.
My guess for the worst would be my first pet stuff or dine out. Since these two require either another pack or just don't work. I forgot about the broken vacuum cleaner kit.
I personally value gameplay >>> anything else and hugely devalue any supernatural contents 😂 my personal top picks are seasons, city living, tiny living, parenthood in this order
I'm surprised as no one is pointing out how James covered Sidney's face with the graphs 😂 Btw, great video! I really needed something like this, thank you James and thanks to the fab community. (Go Batuu!)
Thanks for this video. Got back into playing Sims just recently and needed a good overview about all the additional content, because obviously there's a lot of it. Probably saved me from purchasing stuff that isn't really worth having 🙏
I’m kinda shocked that Island living is higher rated than get famous 😅 I understand that interactive careers aren’t for everyone but while I love Sulani, I feel like Island living didn’t have much to offer apart from the world while Get famous also introduced streaming, music production and the whole concept of being famous, which can be very funny. Totally get how some people don’t enjoy being famous or playing with that part, but I think it’s still and objectively better expansion.
Get Famous biggest failure is building around acting. If it had a full on pop star career instead or better yet as well it would be much better received.
@@xkittyxxkatx I totally see where personal preference plays a part! I personally never use the Island living items or clothes, don’t care about mermaids and only ever use the hairs or go on holiday 1-2 times a year in sulani. The get famous world is way too small, even though I thought it’s really pretty, and the build items are lacking. But i personally enjoy the gameplay 😅 the pack in itself isn’t in my top 5, but I just thought it’s objectively better than Island living just because it’s “only” lacking in 2/4 aspects and not really 3/4 for most people like island living. But yeah, personal preference plays a part in the survey of course. And the majority obviously likes island living more.
I really loved Island Living because I really wanted a tropical world with beaches. Having a variety of worlds was more important to me than new careers or gameplay. Get Famous could have been stunning with a bigger, better world.
@@xkittyxxkatx yeah, you’re right 😂 I mean they aren’t for me either, I was just surprised. I’m sad get to work is so far down. If it came out now, with a proper world and better CAS and Build/Buy it would’ve probably been one of my favorites. But it’s just too old and needs a good refresh 😅 but I remember enjoying it so much when it came out. And I still play the interactive careers. But compared to the other packs it’s just not good enough anymore.
As someone who only has base game (and the desert stuff that was free) I was really looking forward to this appraisal, and I wasn't disappointed. Now I have a much better idea of which packs to expand my game. Thank you James!
As someone that loves stats, data and all that kinda stuff, I was so excited for this! Thank you so much for collecting this data and visualising it this nicely, James. Watching this video really brought me a lot of joy ☺️
I love the Batuu pack .I only wish that you could build - live there. I just get around that by choosing a dry area and build a Batuu world for my fun.
This was perfect timing for simmers or anyone really, with Christmas coming and sales. Very well-done James, very helpful to the community of the Sims 4!
I’m surprised that discover university is low, it is one of my personal favourites. While i agree the world sucks unless you are going to university, i love to enrol most if not all of my sims in university in any family gameplay i am doing. Especially with the transition from high school years now to university. It’s a pack I always use. I may not always have my sims live on campus or go to all the events, but I always send them to school and enjoy the challenges of education and part time work to avoid my real life challenges of school and part time work 😂
Yes! When James said it's a pack you play through once or twice I was surprised! I use it almost every time my sims age up into young adults! Interesting to see how different people play the game.
I hardly watch any sims videos but this not only helps so much and gives so much insight to what is good and isn't. It also shows how much work you put into this, all the gaphs, the editing, making the survey, all the data. You really outdid yourself man, greatly appreciated
I absolutely love how smart and nerdy you are to always come up with super detailed technical stuff! This information was so so good, I didn't think seasons could be dethroned but cottage living was *chef's kiss* ❤️ Thank you for this video!
As a Sociology/Statistics major I just love to see someone get into the detailed data. I could think of a thousand questions I'd like to ask James' community about the Sims. And I love to see so many people describe themselves as data nerds etc. in the comments. Thank you, James!
I love Jungle Adventure, the world is amazing, I wish a sim could actually live there, not just go to a holiday though. Create a Sim and Build Mode is also really good to my taste, but it’s definitely not for everyone, as has a specific “atmosphere”. Sure the quest is just a one-time thing, but I had a lot of fun exploring the world and maybe will even do it again later.
Just moved to brindleton bay I’ve been building in the other base game maps. OH MY GOD the improvement in lot placement. Got a beautiful house up, I’ll probably upload it for others to use 😊 beautiful property just sooo happy with it
My biggest surprise was that Discover University was rated so low! I love that pack and have at least one Sim go to university in pretty much every generation of my legacy challenge. I think that between the different majors, clubs, and aspirations you’re trying to work on at the same time, I can get a different experience each time. One thing though is that I always turn off aging for the first 2 weeks so that my Sims aren’t on the brink of full adulthood when they graduate.
Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together, James! I only have Cottage Living in addition to base game (both bought on sale), so I'm glad to see it was number 1! I was planning on adding to my game, but since I mainly want CAS and build mode items, I might venture into the world of CC. Will definitely come back to this video if I want more gameplay options, though.
I am surprised Dream Home Decorator being on top, but I myself rated BB and CAS very high for that one 😂 and I LOVE University. Literally every Sim born into my legacy went through Uni since it's been out, I like the grind of having 4 classes + soccer and trying to get all A's 😂 Super insightful video overall, I can't imagine the amount of work it took to crunch all the numbers.
I agree with Discover University! Even though it can get pretty tiring sometimes and I have to take a break from time to time, which is totally normal as the gameplay and world are still the same and now I have my own school stuff to do so I don't want to spend all of my free time in university with my sims too 😂 but after my every little break I always find it interesting again and having so many different degrees holds my interest well and gives me an illusion of the university gameplay being different everytime I do it with another new sim with a different degree, different personality and different hopes and dreams for their future 😄
@@erikoinenuori I agree completely! I take a break too because I play on long and it just happens. Plus redesigning dorms (and commons) every few generations keeps everything fresh too. Glad to see fellow University enjoyers 😭❤️
This is EXACTLY what I need atm cause I’m getting new packs for one of my Xmas presents 😅 I can’t decide but I LOVE building and furnishing/decor so I needed this video so bad! Thank you so much!😆💕
I love the Get to Work pack, Scientist career is one of the most fun! And you've got to love the rando male pregnancies just when you thought you were finally done with all the baby gameplay :D
i feel like get to work isn’t ranked low because it’s bad but because so many newer packs have come out with the same active job feature or a similar feature that you pay for in get to work but those packs also have a bunch of other stuff and actually good CAS and build mode items
The data nerd in me has been looking forward to this video like Christmas! This was really insightful to view how so many people in the community really feel about each DLC. Thank you for sharing the spreadsheets and image tables, I know how I'll be spending part of my afternoon today. 🤣
I had so much fun filling out the survey and watching you talk about the results. I know this was a lot of work to put together. Thank you James for the effort you put into this video
The amount of enjoyment this video brought me is genuinely embarrassing. I’d love to see more stats videos on literally anything sims related. Like gameplay styles. I was pleasantly surprised how high strangerville ranked. I absolutely love that pack. I’ve played the story at least 10 times, love building in the world with all the debug cactuses, and I love doing apocalypse challenges and builds so I could not live without it. Also the sims 2 strangetown nostalgia.
James I'm so impressed by you! The dedication you show by making a survey, give a voice to the community, analyse all the data AND visualise all these data in an easy, understandable, pretty, logical way?! It's amazing, you're amazing!
Thank you so much for this James!! And thank you to those that took the survey! It was so extensive and if you have a life like mine, it would have been a huge undertaking. I so appreciated this
Thank you for this video! I kept following influencers advice and got packs that didn’t interest me whatsoever, I feel like it really is a matter of taste and colors but doing an actual poll with the community is much more reliable when it comes to understanding if the packs are actually worth it
This was so interesting and the graphics really made everything easy to understand and engaging. I wonder how well Batuu would’ve done if there were even half of the zeros it got
This was really interesting and slightly surprising. The King (Seasons) is dead, long live the King (Cottage Living). It was fun to fill in. Not being able to caveat my ranking (that I was marking Dine Out gameplay down due to it being broken), made me take much longer to fill out the survey. It helped me realise how much I do love Dream Home Decorator. The ownership percentage was really facinating. I knew that occult packs were less popular, but it was still a bit surprising. I wonder if this was filled in by Simmers of other YT/Twitch communities where the results would differ. RIP Batuu.
One thing that kind of surprised me was how highly the build mode for Dream Home Decorator was rated - I agree that a lot of the objects are pretty but for me they just don't add that much personality to a space like Parenthood or High School Years do. Also I really loved seeing the distribution of voting - super interesting! Great job James and thanks to everyone who participated 💜
I felt the dream home decorator objects were close to scandinavian/nordic style and that's why I like it so much, there is no other scandinavian stuff in the game so it being able to make homes that look like the houses around me was nice.
@@genetes thanks for your input! That's something I hadn't really considered and I'm glad it gave you the opportunity to better represent houses from your area 💚
I love City Living so much. Something about the Spice Festival is just so great, even if other packs have festivals now. I think City Living offers one of the most unique Sims experiences, so I'm glad to see it in the top 5 (and the top 3 when only accounting for those who own the pack!).
Becoming a world famous actor was my most challenging and favorite gameplay. I also really love the group aspect of get together. To me, city living is the best expansion pack. Living in apartments is so realistic and at times, very challenging. Love it
Its useful for decision making but I wouldn’t call this a buyers guide really. I think because of the percentages of people that have packs and things there’s a few odd placements here and some recency bias. I did a poll on the forums if people liked snowy escape, city, country or island living the best and literally no one voted snowy escape yet here it’s 4th top. Get together is much more loved than snowy escape too usually. And Dream home decorator never gets talked about!
What an amazing research, James. Such a nice content. I think it's nice to see how the older packs are badly rated, and for me, this really means that The Sims 4 franchise needs to refresh its older packs and invest innew ones who are trully connected to the present and the tendencies. It was also really nice too see how most of the packs don't have a high gamplay rate. Do gamers really like to play the sims or to customize their houses and outfits? It seems like that the main reasons why we keep on buying from EA are CAS and Build modes. Ah. And I missed one chart last with all the packs rated together.
As someone who work with statistics I Love this video!!! Please do another update when newer DLCs come out (e.g. get together!) Also would've been curious to see your own personal scoring (as a BB player vs. someone whos a CAS/ legacy player)
I actually didn't expect Cottage Living to score that high! Especially compared to Seasons. Also would be interesting to look at the results for newer packs in a year. I bet they would score lower than now. Thank you, James, for this crazy amount of work, it's really interesting and cool to see an actual statistics and not only one's personal opinion
Thank You, I started SIMS 4 yesterday. So, this will be very helpful. I was wondering which DLC packs are the best because there are so many and all are expensive. This was a really nice and helpful overview of most of them.
This was so well done! 👏👏👏 Disappointed that Get Together doesn’t get the props it deserves for the club system. It changed the way I played 😁 Dream Home Decorator Are you serious?!?!?! Well I guess it might be pretty clear that we have a lot of builders in the sims. I prefer to play rather than CAS and build.
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Did any of the results suprise you? I didn't expect some of them!
I am a bit upset about Batuu, #JusticeForBatuu
I actually like Batuu and I'm sad that some get really angry
That I can zoom in the video is what surprised me most 😂 thanks for the info
@@utube9056 Haha! It's actually a really handy new feature when watching on mobile, makes watching videos like this with data a lot easier haha
batuu is the best pack!
I honestly thought Windenburg would win best world
what i learned is that if wedding stories had axed the gameplay part and went out as a stuff pack it would’ve been top tier 💀
THE ACCURACY
I've been saying from the moment it was released that it should have been a stuff pack. It would have been an amazing stuff pack, but it was really disappointing as a game pack.
I wish i could buy the world and the build mode without the gameplay. Even if it were not bugged i would not want the new weddings, i am not interested, i am not a storyteller type.
It would be awesome if someone could come out with a mod to turn off the gameplay. But even with my absolutely zero knowledge of how mods are created that seems like too much to ask for
@carl pls I'm begging
It honestly makes me so sad how much James loves Journey to Batu with these results, he’s heartbroken 😂❤
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I am surprised by a lot of the ranking, probably mostly in game packs and expansions. It’s so fascinating to see what people most like!
Spa day had updates which I think made it better with the manicures and pedicures, yoga classes etc. the only thing is that aspirations were glitched out, not sure if it got fixed.
My Wedding Stories I thought would rank much lower seeming as though it doesn’t work and essentially ruined weddings! I guess the beautiful world and cas/build buy was strong. But this pack was probably the most disappointing and controversial release for me.
Get Famous is one of my faves so that’s surprising, I agree the world wasn’t ideal and oddly didn’t seem to suit the game graphics. I am shocked it ranked below Get Together.
Island Living gameplay was bland,I would only buy for the world, build/buy and cas.
Eco Lifestyle is such a good pack imo! I would have thought it ranked higher.
Snowy escape being ranked so high shocked me too! It seemed very niche to me, so I am confused 🤣
Really glad to see seasons and cottage living up high, I think those are well deserving!
Great video James. And thanks everyone for voting! Xx
@@deligracy Yes I was surprised by how high Snow Escape was too! A lot of the build/buy mode is somewhat niche (though admittedly there are some amazing pieces, like the kitchen set and the simple modern windows) and the gameplay absolutely needed something more imo. The CAS and the world are beautiful though. I wonder if people rated it a little higher since we got platforms as a free update with Snowy Escape? Or because that's when the sims team really started working with creators to build lots? Thinking about it, Snowy Escape was a weirdly impactful release - even though they weren't features that exclusively came with the pack, platforms and working with creators on packs really changed the game!
It was truly a sad result
@@TheGracefulChariot I bought Snowy Escape pretty early because of the build/buy, mostly buy. My last game obsession was Animal Crossing, and I was missing the Japanese style build items. ☺ I totally get what you mean about the gameplay, I've probably had a Sim ski like once, but I do think Japanese aesthetics are popular. And personally I love the snowy mountain world, my parents just moved to the mountains in real life, and I've never seen anything as pretty.
I'm shocked that Eco Lifestyle rated low on gameplay specifically, I expected not everyone to love the build/buy (not everyone is looking to live in a shipping container?) but I love the gameplay. But it's occurring to me that if you're not specifically playing Eco Lifestyle, the gameplay that's the most in your face is forgetting to vote on NAPs and suddenly getting your power shut off, or having to deal with broken community lots because your Sims are stealing your benches.
I love replaying Eco Lifestyle, maybe second only to Cottage Living. But NAPs can definitely be annoying.
A toggle for turning off the StrangerVille Infection would've made the game pack even better. I love the uniqueness and how the Build Mode stylistically gels with Get to Work (which were reasons I got StrangerVille on release), but I haven't touched it since I played the story because I would've preferred to play in a not-infected StrangerVille like, 99.99% of the time.
Yeah, I think overall, Sims 4 packs could use more toggle switches. A lot of the stuff they add is just always on and I don't always want to use everything like that
I agree, I would have bought it if it weren’t for the lack of toggle. I still miss sims 3 toggles to this day. I actually had the supernatural pack because I knew I could turn off individually the existence of occult sims. I never bought werewolves and vampires because i don’t want them in my game all the time, but I would absolutely buy them for their build mode more than anything and for the occasional gameplay. More toggles needed, give me back the age span sliders from sims 3, hoping EA goes back to these ideas for sims 5
@@aylayzrianne there’s already a tmex mod that’s just a strangerville toggle! i do love the world but the infected sims always freaked me out really bad so i was desperately searching for a mod like this before i even touched the world 😭
The game overall, packs and no packs NEEDS more settings for everything. You can't even rebind keys. P for pause? Seriously??!? As a 4x player let me have my spacebar for pause please
Create a new game and cheat your way through the strangerville story until you finish it. After that, just open and Save As every new save you make so you'll have a non-infected version everyt time.
I was surprised that Cats & Dogs had a medium score. The animations of the animals' behavior are spot on and so lovely.
Yeah but besides having a cat and dog there's not much to do. You just have a pet in your house that now and then you give attention to
Yeah but in the sims 3 you could control the dog and give it friends and have him do stuff. I love the pack anyway but it's truly not the best in the franchise
@@jecsibethguevara9819 I was so bummed that you couldn't control the cats and dogs anymore! You can't even see their needs or relationships. It makes it so much less fun. Honestly, the original Sims Unleashed was so much better than this one is. I even liked the world better to be honest. I miss the Zydeco music and you had more pets options!
@@laurelrose7018 there is a mod to be able to do that
I think everyone was just comparing it to Sims 3 Pets and it can't live up. The animals are beautiful but kinda boring in terms of gameplay.
What people need to understand with lists like these is, that they are meant for people who are actually looking into buying some DLC and not for those who hate the whole concept. Personally I did buy some of the more impactful Expansion and Game packs over the years and I wish I watched something like this before doing so. It would have helped immensely.
Anyway, thanks for the video. You are the only Sim RUclipsr I actually enjoy watching.
Definitely! And the way I asked the questions was for those who had actually purchased the packs, so that means you'll get reviews from people who were interested in the idea. I think it gives a good view of whether or not what was promised was delivered in each pack
YES! I was so waiting for this video because there's a sale on Origin and I really wanna buy a pack so this really helped me
@@JamesTurnerYT Since the data is so skewed on Batuu, do you think it'd be better or worse to do a different ranking for it with the 0's removed due to the more than likelihood that people who don't actually own the pack voted 0 just because they don't like it ? Or even slashing the amount of 0's that were voted on so it represents the bell curve trend we've seen ?
Granted there is the possibility of some true 0's, maybe even a higher trend, but due to the staggering amount of them, false 0's are more likely in this case than true 0's-- that way we could potentially see a more accurate rating on Batuu.
@@thalianaruiz3521 that was also my thought. maybe with 40% of the zero's we get to somewhat believable
@@xkittyxxkatx I get what you're saying ! The build mode and some of the hair styles are probably the only good things about the pack itself but even then, it's on a case by case basis for people bc we all have unique tastes.
I was just wondering tbh since it's hard to get a true read out on Batuu
Standing ovation for James putting all of this together!! 👏👏👏
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Can I just quickly say the amount of work that went into editing this video…the fonts/colors (such as the rating bubbles), icons, graphics, snippets from the pack trailers, all of it…pretty great. As always, thanks for producing top tier content James! Hands down my favorite content creator/Simmer/RUclipsr/all of the other tech titles that are fitting that I can’t think of 😅
My husband who has absolutely no interest in playing Sims still watches James' videos with me! That's the mark of a top tier creator for sure!
@@SLorraineE thats dedication! It must get confusing sometimes as a non-simmer😂
I can't express how badly I want EA and Maxis to see this😭
I promise they don't care. Some of these disliked packs made good money
@@ruminationstation4200 how hard is it to listen to fans and make a game almost everyone likes? It’s like they love disappointment added to their reputation.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 It's EA. They do not need to care and do not care, in any of their games.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 really difficult, because ea's only purpose is to make money 🐱 capitalism's main purpose is the profit
@@jean-mauricenestler3761 Thats not how business works, its why customer relations became a thing, nobody is too big to fail. Eventually it will catch up to them when they push it too far.
What I hate of Magnolia Promenade is not the small number of lots. It is that there is nothing to do outside of the lots. Pretend shopping and youa re out, or you have to own a store, and if you do, you are better off building it somewhere where you can use the world.
I actually use it more often than I realize. Mostly through live-in shop and studios (akin to Sims 2 Open For Business). I'd also add a resturant there because it's so freaking buggy (this is before Carl's mod.).
I had a family live there and think it's a pretty good little world. There's a playground, fishing spot, tables, food stalls from Seasons and you can wade in the water. That's pretty much the standard for older worlds and much more than Del Sol Valley's living neighbourhoods have to offer, especially the upper class one.
For me the most annoying thing is when a sim asks you to go on a date to a retail store. there isn't much to do there
The worst thing about it is by far that sims will only leave it on this one spot at the pier. Forgot to send your sim home via map screen? Enjoy watching them waddle around the neighborhood for a minute.
The only thing I use Magnolia Promenade for is fishing for cowberries. And once another sim asked mine out on a date and it was to a shop there. Otherwise, it's pretty useless. I use the gameplay of that pack heaps though.
Honestly, I feel like what this mainly shows is that a pack will get good rankings as long as it has great build/buy and/or a great world, because those are the ONLY things keeping My Wedding Stories afloat. Top five, seriously. . . I'm glad you included the "ranked by gameplay" version too, because THAT I feel is gonna be more useful to everyone!
And cas, mws cas is top teir
I think that depends on your play style. For me personally, I don’t care too much about gameplay, I mostly build and create sims.. so I think it’s great he ranked it according to all three of those play styles :)
That said, keep in mind that this is the opinions of people who watch James' videos, so we're probably more of a build/buy focused bunch. I was surprised when I first waded into the mods/CC world how much of it was CAS focused, because I'm much more of a build/buy person, and I tend to stick to my own lol. There are a lot of CAS people out there too! It's just not me.
@@bente2580 makes sense, but honestly, considering amount of free mods and cas items on the internet… paying 40$ for clothes may feel very underwhelming for a lot of people, me included
@@bente2580 see i’m the opposite. idc ab cas, i never use ea clothes. i always use cc for my sims. i do appreciate build and buy a bit more though. but gameplay is the biggest thing for me. will i always like playing it or will it get old?
This is incredibly detailed and so insanely impressive! Trust James to go IN on the stats and show us the results in such an interesting and creative way. We see the work that goes into this stuff James and er appreciate it!
Thank you! I literally spent 5 days just organising data and creating graphics haha
@TheSimSupply It really shows how much time and dedication you put into this video. Honestly, Semaj is in his Happy/Graphs Era and we all love to see it. 📊🥹🪴✨️
@James Turner James, I'm always so impressed with your graphics and creativity in your videos and on your website. I really appreciate the time you put in.
For real, EA just got a lot of good market research for free
@@baigles2012 And I really hope that they take advantage of this free market research for future DLC for Sims 4 and for Sims 5. For me personally, the percentage of people who own each DLC is especially telling. I actually ran some stats about the stats here. I averaged the percentage of people who own packs in each of the four categories (Expansion Pack, Game Pack, Stuff Pack, and Kit) just for giggles. The average ownership rate for kits is only 35.5%. Remove Desert Luxe from the equation (given the probability that most of the people who have it got it when it was free) and that drops to 31.9%. The average rates for both Game Packs and Stuff Packs are in the low-60s (63.9% and 61.4%, respectively), while the average ownership rate for Expansions is 81.74%. No Expansion Pack is owned by less than half of surveyed Sims 4 players. Personally, the conclusion that I draw from this is that Sims players are far more likely to pay for more expensive but more expansive DLCs than for watered-down cheap garbage. Someone posted above about how the total cost of all this DLC at full-price is $870, so honestly in the future I personally would far prefer to see fewer but larger DLCs, and I think this data suggests that I'm probably not alone in that sentiment.
I also would like to point out that, if we again exclude Desert Luxe, no kit was owned more than even the least-owned Stuff Pack or Expansion Pack. There were three Game Packs mixed in with those other kits, and one of them was Batuu (which personally I feel should have probably been a separate spin-off game like Sims Castaway Stories was for Sims 2, with maybe some of the build/buy and CAS stuff added either as a free update for the base game or unlocked by purchasing the spin-off game), one was My Wedding Stories (a hot buggy mess), and one was Werewolves (which okay, not everybody goes in for occults, but I personally think that one should rank higher given that it actually works and fits within the Sims franchise).
Get Together is such a useful pack, especially with the ability to group your sims together. You can make clubs, or even just group sims together in a friendship group to make it easier to hang out without needing to call everyone individually to hang out. I'd definitely say that it's the pack I most recommend to my friends, along with Seasons.
You mean cults right?
Praise The Dear Leader🚫🐸
I love how deli posts a video talking about James being more practical and detail oriented and then he uploads this video proving it 😂😂
You don't even want to know how much time I spent sorting out all this info haha
@@JamesTurnerYT Your data is always so satisfying, love the way your brain works! I wonder what's your MBTI type? My guess is ESTP
Love how the sims team went "oh you hated bust the dust? Great we're NEVER giving you a game kit ever again" 😭
The % of owned is extremely helpful to builders, I can look and see which packs are owned the most and try to focus more on using those packs in my builds. I’m such a data nerd so this was so interesting!!! Great job James!!! 👏🏻
Lol, I was just thinking of the same thing and spent a while looking at Most Owned. I guess Seasons is getting used in every pack!
@@zkw100 Seasons is definitely one that's super easy to use on every build. It's probably my favorite pack.
I don't normally comment, but I LOVE data. Combining my "normal" job as a business and data analyst along with the Sims was a truly enjoyable experience. I love your graphs and tables and how you presented them. Great video😊
As a scientist, I love seeing these statistical distributions in voting. So fun!
Right??? It was so much fun to see them!
My first thought is always "imagine if proper scientific studies partnered with RUclipsrs to get that many people to respond!" Like clearly it wouldn't be applicable to the vast majority of research, but the ones where you need a lot of data from just random people??? And with the analytics RUclips provides, scientists could partner with channels that have the kind of audience they are looking to target!
@@SLorraineE that’s interesting! You’d have to consider the biases of viewers though (age, nationality, gender, socioeconomic background etc etc) for each RUclipsr’s viewer base. RUclips is probably inhibited by law to release those informations on viewer’s for further cross-checking of responders, not sure 🤔
Get famous, get together, and eco living are actually really fun in my opinion. I feel like people don’t talk about the depth of the get famous pack often, the active career isn’t the only thing you can do with it. You become a celebrity for doing anything, sometimes it shocks me, like getting famous from snowboarding, or even bribing your way into university. It has the best cross pack compatibility of any pack and the reputation system makes it worth to me personally.
I'm blown away by your in depth analysis. I really hope EA is taking notes on all the results. On a side note, you're an amazing content creator! I love all your videos, it's obvious you truly enjoy the game, you're so dedicated and enthusiastic to your job, I can only say great things about you. I'm a long time subscriber, but I'm mostly a lurker, I just wanted to tell how much I appreciate you and how much I enjoy your videos. Sending lots of good vibes for you and Deli, ur both awesome people.
At this point EA should just hire James.
I was so surprised when Batuu was rated higher than Magnolia Promenade. Even though there’s only four lots, you can make it like a shopping centre or pretty much anything you want. And the world itself isn’t bad, it’s just a Willow Creek extension.
I love all the data, you did a very thorough job, James! Especially interesting to see how many people own each pack :)
I loved all the data too!!
Glad you enjoyed it! I tried to show as much info as possible whilst not being overwhelming and for those that want even more, the spreadsheet has all the extra graphs
@@JamesTurnerYT I think it's a good balance! But I'm definitely gonna look at the spreadsheet too, I'm a nerd lol :D
So many people didn't utilize the club system from get together and it shows, total game changer and imo a must have for gameplay enthusiasts
Right. I’d rate Get Together as one of the top 3 packs IMO. Simply because of the utility it allows for. Got a teen sim that needs friends? Make a club that’s Teens Only and add a few Teens to it. Got a large family? Make a couple Clubs to include each family member and start a gathering. Got a single Sim that’s looking for love? Make a Singles Only club, and make desirable traits a requirement to join the club. Want some extra spice in your game? Make a woohoo club that gathers at lounges, bars, or nightclubs. Want some chaos? Make a Werewolf/Vampire fight club. Clubs are so utilitarian, that just about the only limit is your own imagination. Not just that, but the world is ABSOLUTELY beautiful. There’s even some nice, albeit very simple, lore behind Bernard and Mimsy (the ghosts from The Chalet) My biggest gripe about the pack is that some of the townies are kinda boring, but I think that’s mainly cuz it’s such an early pack.
@@an_avidpanda_lover8349I completely agree. My Sim kids only ever complete the social aspiration thanks to clubs, and they're so useful for helping your distant relatives meet your new baby
As a new player, I truly appreciate the effort and research that was put into this! So many of these are based on personal preferences, which is logical since everyone has their own gameplay style and interests. But seeing the numbers with it of how many people actually own the packs they're rating really helps. It shows which packs people have spent (or are willing to spend) money on, and which were a mistake to buy.
You ARE the Sims4 man! Gosh. I absolutely admire your work when you come up with such things for the community.
He's the Gemini god of the Sims, Geminis *k n o w* how to take care of Virgos and they know that Virgos love stuff like the Sims, so he just found a way to take care of us, and since geminis love to take care of Virgos for some odd reason, he does a good job , I love Jamie Gemini daddy, all my heroes and best boyfriends have been geminis, I might marry one 💚 who knows 🐛
@@ReginaTrans_ who's the virgo in the equation?
James always saving, fostering and entertaining this community! Bless him.
Cottage Living has been the only DLC that I bought at full price and I'm really glad to see that it was a great decision! I love it so much.
Same!
As someone trained in data and survey creation this has made my day- maybe even week. It's fascinating and I'm so grateful for it. So exciting! Thanks James
This is the most detailed and well organized Sims 4 DLC ranking I have ever seen 😱👏 Good job!!
The graphics and all the visuals you designed for this video are so well made and look so professional, I am very impressed 👌 Thanks for doing this!
It would be so cool if we have another city world option. i love city living so much I play in this world a lot, it never gets boring. if sims team release another city world it would be epic
As much as I'd love that, I think the community would immediately lash out and see it as them "double dipping" since City Living's selling point is the apartment building gameplay - there were already people complaining about this when we got Ecolifestyle. I remember when they did that survey with concepts the community would like to see and they pitched the Brazilian coastal city world and even Sims YT'ers were like "oh no, I'm not voting for that, we already have Sulani" when the world they pitched would actually be more akin to San Myshuno with beaches....
@@dreamerbee That’s true the sims community would probably flip out over that but I’m sure it would be fine if they made the residential lots small townhouses/condos or lofts rather than apartments. Also if you look at the packs that are said to come out in 2023 one of the appears to have a bit of a city vibe incorporated so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see something similar in the coming months
i love it too, we need more (and better) apartments and at this point all the worlds are blending to me, it's just the same.
@@dreamerbee You’re right, people would lose it. I really hate how we can’t revisit concepts without people getting angry. Especially if it’s something that wasn’t as fleshed out as it could have been the first time around. Like I would love to see more for pets to do, but it’ll never happen with how much people hated my first pet stuff (which admittedly did just seem like stuff they held back from Cats and Dogs)
@@dreamerbee true, but then whatever they release, part of the community will lash about something to do with the pack.
In my opinion another thing holding discover university back is the amount of time it takes you to go through school. If it wasn’t half your young adult life it wouldn’t be so bad. I really think James did an outstanding job on this presentation! Great job!
This is so true!!
It's also so all consuming. If you want to do well and complete quickly you can't do anything except go to class, do homework, and try to keep your needs up in whatever time you have left. I suppose that's accurate to real life but in a depressing way that doesn't make me want to play it.
Its really put me off buying it, even though I was excited by the concept as I'm a uni student
You’re definitely doing someone at EA’s an entire decade of retrospective 😂 great work!
This has to be one of the best sims 4 ranking videos ever! It's so informative and well-made and the editing is so clean and satisfying! Also I wasn't that surprised by most of the results, especially the worst packs lol and I hope that the Sims team could maybe learn something from this survey since it gives a great insight into what people like/want. Thank you James for an amazing survey and video! 😄
This is such a brilliant video! With all the statistics and your analysis of so many votes. Well done, James, and thank you and thanks to everyone who voted.
I love how you ranked them by each category afterwards. I personally care about gameplay the most. I wouldn’t buy a pack just for the world and build items so some packs were too highly listed in the overall category (like wedding stories).
But you’ve convinced me to buy parenthood since it’s the highest rated gameplay!
Thanks for putting so much work into this, so interesting! The biggest surprise to me is Get Together ranking pretty low. I know the gameplay is kind of non-specific but clubs come in handy for so many things! And the world is just perfect
I feel like for some of the older packs, we've gotten so used to them that we no longer recognize them as a pack feature -like cafes and dance clubs for get together, nevermind the interactions, I don't even remember which ones they are. Also, get to work came with the photography skill, which was moved to bg later on, and baking
Both island living and get to work suffered from lack of focus, get to work tried to do too may different things and none of them as good as they could have been, and Island living had that seem feel - mermaids didn’t get a skill tree, and the conservation career felt underdeveloped. This video was such a good look at all the packs with lots of well organized data! Great job!
I am seriously offenced that eco-lifestyle is only number 8!!!! The gameplay, world, create a sim are absolutely fantastic and the ability to craft so much stuff is my absolute favourite!!!!!!!
This is so great. Lot of Tierlists/reviews are made by one person alone, so I'm really excited to see what a large group of people thinks.
I was always thinking a lot about the 'gameplay' question in te form. Cause with some packs (that I don't have for obvious reasons) the gameplay as the idea sounds super fun, but the pack is so bugged the gameplay sucks a lot. I'd probably need another category for 'buggyness' :D
Exactly! My daughter was soooo excited for my wedding stories and we told her she could get it, but then when it came out and we heard how it just didnt work she changed her mind and now that I’m playing more, we basically decided we’ll buy it when its fixed lol. I guess she learned from Dine Out to go to RUclips first to see what it’s actually like.
I agree with first point. On the second one though; you were not supposed to vote if you don't own the pack so if it is only an issue with packs you don't own it's not an issue.
@@pemeliie oh I meant more like someone who owns these might say 'good in theory, but unplayable'
I am more and more convinced, this is a home builders game and not a players game. Dream home decorator! I would be so bored by a pack just about home renovation/decoration. As a player, not a builder….I love building community lots with playing purpose, so I LOVE bowling night. I used Bowling Night and movie night to make a (not rabbit hole) theater/bowling multifunctional community lot. Just need to get University so I can update it with a little arcade space. It’s great for sim dates, for a sims family night out, and for sims just getting together with other sims. Getting Sims to dine together is a nightmare in general, but I find I have loads of fun taking them out for bowling or a movie. Or honestly to the gym. I use the climbing wall all the time, which is more than I can say for most of the build/buy stuff. The gym is a great place to meet other sims. So is the bowling alley/movie theater.
Pastel pop is my favorite B/B kit cause it actually is great for teen/kid bedrooms and I actually LOVE the pet stuff pack for the lower maintenance small animals. Seperating the pet packs was dirty on EA’s part but I got Cats&Dogs, Pet Stuff, and Parenthood in an EA bundle at a discount so not fazed…felt like I got a good deal. But sometimes I want my single sims to have a pet that’s not a full on cat or dog and the rodents are great fun. I actually have prob played with them more than cats and dogs actually. Not a builder, so the build/buy isn’t make or break for me.
Eco Lifestyle is REALLY good. Surprisingly good actually. One of the most underrated packs along with Get Together. People don't realize how good those 2 packs are. :3
I love Get Together! It’s so good, it needs more love. Eco Lifestyle is also a good pack but it’s a little buggy for me (mainly NAPs randomly turning themselves back on even though I have them turned off in settings).
@@naeshelle Justice for Get Together, it's a top tier for me. The world is amazing, love the CAS items, and the club function is so useful!
Love Get Together and Eco lifestyle for making amazing modern builds. They both have community elements that works together for gameplay, too!
both are damn FANTASTIC packs!
Fr! Eco lifestyle honestly has such amazing gameplay!
can we just take a momment to appreciate the production of this video? hello? the editing, the data base just wow. Amzing job James! Thank you!
Sulani and Werewolves were the experiences I had the most fun with in Sims 4. I had a sim who basically worked 4 hours a day in Sulani, and basically just lived a peaceful life in Sulani enjoying the new world. In Werewolves, I made a hippy werewolf. The story I made with my hippy sim and the gameplay made it so fun to play with. Get famous was fun, too.
Mine was seasons. My sim lived in a little cottage and did gardening all year round and decorated the house every season :)
My Wedding Stories (broken, pretty but tedious, focus on real life events) ranking above Strangerville (distinctive, supernatural, story focused, not for everyone) sums up my experiences in the Sims community so well.
This seems like it was so much effort to create this video. Thank you so much for putting in the work for all of us who buy packs every once in a while and decide on which one is worth it.
As a person who had 3 semesters of statistics in Uni I A) applaud you James on how detailled yet comprehensive the video is and B) ask for a second more detailed analysis with hypotheses, correlatios, etc.
Example: a hypothesis might be that people who got vampires also like werewolves, or that people who love cottage loving despise city living. The crazier the hypothesis the better :D SPSS is your best friend ;)
SPSS is my enemy -a sad sociology major
I was just saying this! His stat skills are definitely showing.
You outdid yourself with this one James! This is very detailed and an absolute help for simmers. Great one as always!
So basically, every pack is worth the money.. as long as their on sale 😂😂
Honestly couldn't agree more 🙌
I'm going to guess Season's is the best expansion. It's just superior in terms of content and gameplay. Of course it is buggy but, sad I have to say this, what isn't in the sims
Edit: Absolute betrayal
I think maybe seasons is the best but cottage living is my favourite. It’s hard to explain how that is possible, but I think seasons has people’s brains but cottage living has their heart 😁
@@jaybee4288 it's the face cows make when sims brush them. melts my cold stony lil heart every time
My jaw dropped when seasons was ranked number 2
This was super interesting! One thing I thought of when rating the worlds was collectibles - it annoys me that a lot of the worlds just don’t have any & I don’t get why. I don’t often look for them but in some challenges it’s become frustrating that you can’t find stuff in all worlds.
YES. I shouldn't have to live in a base game world to have collectables spawn
My guess for the worst would be my first pet stuff or dine out. Since these two require either another pack or just don't work.
I forgot about the broken vacuum cleaner kit.
I personally value gameplay >>> anything else and hugely devalue any supernatural contents 😂 my personal top picks are seasons, city living, tiny living, parenthood in this order
I'm surprised as no one is pointing out how James covered Sidney's face with the graphs 😂 Btw, great video! I really needed something like this, thank you James and thanks to the fab community. (Go Batuu!)
Thanks for this video. Got back into playing Sims just recently and needed a good overview about all the additional content, because obviously there's a lot of it. Probably saved me from purchasing stuff that isn't really worth having 🙏
I’m kinda shocked that Island living is higher rated than get famous 😅 I understand that interactive careers aren’t for everyone but while I love Sulani, I feel like Island living didn’t have much to offer apart from the world while Get famous also introduced streaming, music production and the whole concept of being famous, which can be very funny. Totally get how some people don’t enjoy being famous or playing with that part, but I think it’s still and objectively better expansion.
Get Famous biggest failure is building around acting. If it had a full on pop star career instead or better yet as well it would be much better received.
@@xkittyxxkatx I totally see where personal preference plays a part! I personally never use the Island living items or clothes, don’t care about mermaids and only ever use the hairs or go on holiday 1-2 times a year in sulani. The get famous world is way too small, even though I thought it’s really pretty, and the build items are lacking. But i personally enjoy the gameplay 😅 the pack in itself isn’t in my top 5, but I just thought it’s objectively better than Island living just because it’s “only” lacking in 2/4 aspects and not really 3/4 for most people like island living. But yeah, personal preference plays a part in the survey of course. And the majority obviously likes island living more.
I really loved Island Living because I really wanted a tropical world with beaches. Having a variety of worlds was more important to me than new careers or gameplay. Get Famous could have been stunning with a bigger, better world.
Even though they're the least fleshed out occult, mermaids are what tip it over for me personally.
@@xkittyxxkatx yeah, you’re right 😂 I mean they aren’t for me either, I was just surprised. I’m sad get to work is so far down. If it came out now, with a proper world and better CAS and Build/Buy it would’ve probably been one of my favorites. But it’s just too old and needs a good refresh 😅 but I remember enjoying it so much when it came out. And I still play the interactive careers. But compared to the other packs it’s just not good enough anymore.
As someone who only has base game (and the desert stuff that was free) I was really looking forward to this appraisal, and I wasn't disappointed. Now I have a much better idea of which packs to expand my game. Thank you James!
As someone that loves stats, data and all that kinda stuff, I was so excited for this! Thank you so much for collecting this data and visualising it this nicely, James. Watching this video really brought me a lot of joy ☺️
I love the Batuu pack .I only wish that you could build - live there. I just get around that by choosing a dry area and build a Batuu world for my fun.
That's a great analysis, very professional. You are one of the greatest sims youtubers out there.
This was perfect timing for simmers or anyone really, with Christmas coming and sales. Very well-done James, very helpful to the community of the Sims 4!
I’m surprised that discover university is low, it is one of my personal favourites. While i agree the world sucks unless you are going to university, i love to enrol most if not all of my sims in university in any family gameplay i am doing. Especially with the transition from high school years now to university. It’s a pack I always use. I may not always have my sims live on campus or go to all the events, but I always send them to school and enjoy the challenges of education and part time work to avoid my real life challenges of school and part time work 😂
Yes! When James said it's a pack you play through once or twice I was surprised! I use it almost every time my sims age up into young adults! Interesting to see how different people play the game.
Same 😅
I play a normal life expectancy gameplay and so it takes way tooo much time but I love the gameplay!😊
I pause aging when I pay university because of this
I hardly watch any sims videos but this not only helps so much and gives so much insight to what is good and isn't. It also shows how much work you put into this, all the gaphs, the editing, making the survey, all the data. You really outdid yourself man, greatly appreciated
I absolutely love how smart and nerdy you are to always come up with super detailed technical stuff! This information was so so good, I didn't think seasons could be dethroned but cottage living was *chef's kiss* ❤️ Thank you for this video!
Ok I feel crazy because I love Journey to Batuu, Get to Work, and My First Pet Stuff. They’re some of my favorite packs, but nothing will beat Seasons
I want to see a ranking of the Bigwallet family. We can vote on our favorite to least favorite family members.
FYI: THIS EDITING is one of the best. I'm so amazed on how well James put this together.
I love the time and effort that’s gone into this video James! So informative, thank you 😊
As a Sociology/Statistics major I just love to see someone get into the detailed data. I could think of a thousand questions I'd like to ask James' community about the Sims. And I love to see so many people describe themselves as data nerds etc. in the comments. Thank you, James!
I love Jungle Adventure, the world is amazing, I wish a sim could actually live there, not just go to a holiday though. Create a Sim and Build Mode is also really good to my taste, but it’s definitely not for everyone, as has a specific “atmosphere”. Sure the quest is just a one-time thing, but I had a lot of fun exploring the world and maybe will even do it again later.
Selvadorada being vacation-only is *so* wrong tbh.
Just moved to brindleton bay I’ve been building in the other base game maps. OH MY GOD the improvement in lot placement. Got a beautiful house up, I’ll probably upload it for others to use 😊 beautiful property just sooo happy with it
The Sims and Data! My favorite two things! I am a research analyst and this presentation is incredible. Really really great job, James!
Can’t tell you how much I appreciate these types of videos in general. Thank you so much for your surveys and representation of the data!
I really like the graphics and stuff on this video, cool way to show the scores/info of different packs
My biggest surprise was that Discover University was rated so low! I love that pack and have at least one Sim go to university in pretty much every generation of my legacy challenge. I think that between the different majors, clubs, and aspirations you’re trying to work on at the same time, I can get a different experience each time. One thing though is that I always turn off aging for the first 2 weeks so that my Sims aren’t on the brink of full adulthood when they graduate.
Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together, James! I only have Cottage Living in addition to base game (both bought on sale), so I'm glad to see it was number 1! I was planning on adding to my game, but since I mainly want CAS and build mode items, I might venture into the world of CC. Will definitely come back to this video if I want more gameplay options, though.
I am surprised Dream Home Decorator being on top, but I myself rated BB and CAS very high for that one 😂 and I LOVE University. Literally every Sim born into my legacy went through Uni since it's been out, I like the grind of having 4 classes + soccer and trying to get all A's 😂 Super insightful video overall, I can't imagine the amount of work it took to crunch all the numbers.
I agree with Discover University! Even though it can get pretty tiring sometimes and I have to take a break from time to time, which is totally normal as the gameplay and world are still the same and now I have my own school stuff to do so I don't want to spend all of my free time in university with my sims too 😂 but after my every little break I always find it interesting again and having so many different degrees holds my interest well and gives me an illusion of the university gameplay being different everytime I do it with another new sim with a different degree, different personality and different hopes and dreams for their future 😄
@@erikoinenuori I agree completely! I take a break too because I play on long and it just happens. Plus redesigning dorms (and commons) every few generations keeps everything fresh too. Glad to see fellow University enjoyers 😭❤️
This is EXACTLY what I need atm cause I’m getting new packs for one of my Xmas presents 😅 I can’t decide but I LOVE building and furnishing/decor so I needed this video so bad! Thank you so much!😆💕
I love the Get to Work pack, Scientist career is one of the most fun! And you've got to love the rando male pregnancies just when you thought you were finally done with all the baby gameplay :D
i feel like get to work isn’t ranked low because it’s bad but because so many newer packs have come out with the same active job feature or a similar feature that you pay for in get to work but those packs also have a bunch of other stuff and actually good CAS and build mode items
The data nerd in me has been looking forward to this video like Christmas! This was really insightful to view how so many people in the community really feel about each DLC. Thank you for sharing the spreadsheets and image tables, I know how I'll be spending part of my afternoon today. 🤣
I had so much fun filling out the survey and watching you talk about the results. I know this was a lot of work to put together. Thank you James for the effort you put into this video
The amount of enjoyment this video brought me is genuinely embarrassing. I’d love to see more stats videos on literally anything sims related. Like gameplay styles. I was pleasantly surprised how high strangerville ranked. I absolutely love that pack. I’ve played the story at least 10 times, love building in the world with all the debug cactuses, and I love doing apocalypse challenges and builds so I could not live without it. Also the sims 2 strangetown nostalgia.
James I'm so impressed by you! The dedication you show by making a survey, give a voice to the community, analyse all the data AND visualise all these data in an easy, understandable, pretty, logical way?! It's amazing, you're amazing!
And this is how you make people excited for data literacy!!! Big win for the data fans ☺️
Thank you so much for this James!! And thank you to those that took the survey! It was so extensive and if you have a life like mine, it would have been a huge undertaking. I so appreciated this
Thank you for this video! I kept following influencers advice and got packs that didn’t interest me whatsoever, I feel like it really is a matter of taste and colors but doing an actual poll with the community is much more reliable when it comes to understanding if the packs are actually worth it
This was so interesting and the graphics really made everything easy to understand and engaging. I wonder how well Batuu would’ve done if there were even half of the zeros it got
Okay, WOW at the incredible production of this video. It obviously took you a ton of time to put everything together. I love how you did this!
This was really interesting and slightly surprising. The King (Seasons) is dead, long live the King (Cottage Living).
It was fun to fill in. Not being able to caveat my ranking (that I was marking Dine Out gameplay down due to it being broken), made me take much longer to fill out the survey. It helped me realise how much I do love Dream Home Decorator.
The ownership percentage was really facinating. I knew that occult packs were less popular, but it was still a bit surprising.
I wonder if this was filled in by Simmers of other YT/Twitch communities where the results would differ.
RIP Batuu.
One thing that kind of surprised me was how highly the build mode for Dream Home Decorator was rated - I agree that a lot of the objects are pretty but for me they just don't add that much personality to a space like Parenthood or High School Years do. Also I really loved seeing the distribution of voting - super interesting! Great job James and thanks to everyone who participated 💜
Lot of people like [bland] Neutrals.
see also: Fashion Street getting dropped in a pit :|
@@Ardelin_ yeah and decor to the max too!
I felt the dream home decorator objects were close to scandinavian/nordic style and that's why I like it so much, there is no other scandinavian stuff in the game so it being able to make homes that look like the houses around me was nice.
@@genetes thanks for your input! That's something I hadn't really considered and I'm glad it gave you the opportunity to better represent houses from your area 💚
I love City Living so much. Something about the Spice Festival is just so great, even if other packs have festivals now. I think City Living offers one of the most unique Sims experiences, so I'm glad to see it in the top 5 (and the top 3 when only accounting for those who own the pack!).
Becoming a world famous actor was my most challenging and favorite gameplay. I also really love the group aspect of get together. To me, city living is the best expansion pack. Living in apartments is so realistic and at times, very challenging. Love it
Thank you so much for doing this! This seems like it took a lot of time, but it really helps people to see if it's really worth to buy a pack or not.
Its useful for decision making but I wouldn’t call this a buyers guide really. I think because of the percentages of people that have packs and things there’s a few odd placements here and some recency bias. I did a poll on the forums if people liked snowy escape, city, country or island living the best and literally no one voted snowy escape yet here it’s 4th top. Get together is much more loved than snowy escape too usually. And Dream home decorator never gets talked about!
What an amazing research, James. Such a nice content. I think it's nice to see how the older packs are badly rated, and for me, this really means that The Sims 4 franchise needs to refresh its older packs and invest innew ones who are trully connected to the present and the tendencies. It was also really nice too see how most of the packs don't have a high gamplay rate. Do gamers really like to play the sims or to customize their houses and outfits? It seems like that the main reasons why we keep on buying from EA are CAS and Build modes. Ah. And I missed one chart last with all the packs rated together.
Agree!!!
This data set came at the perfect time! I literally needed to bring a data set to my class tomorrow to practice analysis with! Thank you James!!!
As someone who work with statistics I Love this video!!!
Please do another update when newer DLCs come out (e.g. get together!)
Also would've been curious to see your own personal scoring (as a BB player vs. someone whos a CAS/ legacy player)
I actually didn't expect Cottage Living to score that high! Especially compared to Seasons. Also would be interesting to look at the results for newer packs in a year. I bet they would score lower than now. Thank you, James, for this crazy amount of work, it's really interesting and cool to see an actual statistics and not only one's personal opinion
Thank You, I started SIMS 4 yesterday. So, this will be very helpful. I was wondering which DLC packs are the best because there are so many and all are expensive. This was a really nice and helpful overview of most of them.
Thank you for doing all of this. I loved how much detail was put into this whole thing. It is amazing! Great job, great video!
This was so well done! 👏👏👏
Disappointed that Get Together doesn’t get the props it deserves for the club system. It changed the way I played 😁 Dream Home Decorator Are you serious?!?!?! Well I guess it might be pretty clear that we have a lot of builders in the sims. I prefer to play rather than CAS and build.
Good to hear how the community ranked them! At least we have a collective knowledge of what’s a good pack, not just one or ten youtubers’ opinion.