Irish Dialects: Which one to learn?
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Worried about dialects in the Irish language? Simple answer is: don't focus on this as a challenge, and you can always specialise later.
It actually does not matter if you learn a mix of phrases from different Irish language dialects.
With people exposed to media constantly, it's a very different problem to, say, 80 years ago. We're now all exposed to dialects from across Ireland.
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Irish language dialects, and why you shouldn't worry about them
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He's a monster Irish speaker.
Every time I crash down the learning mountain and get frustrated (like once a day), this guy pushes me back up.
More people should be as encouraging as him.
I agree. He seems to be a good teacher.
I can see why many would feel that way, because it can feel very frustrating at times, but I recommend learning Irish little by little and not expecting to see progress soon! I am learning Irish and the other Celtic languages little by little because there aren’t many resources at the moment and no vocab videos with hundreds and thousands of words and correct and clear pronunciation for each word etc, which makes it very difficult for one to learn the Celtic languages the same way as one learns very known languages like Dutch and German which have tons of different vocab videos and all sorts of videos on grammar by tons of yts, so Celtic languages aren’t as easy to learn as Dutch and German, but there is always a way, it’s just that it may take longer, due to the very limited number of videos that are on yt at the moment, but hopefully there will be many resources in the near future, as the modern Celtic languages are very pretty, so they should be very known! I highly recommend learning Irish 2gether with Norse / Icelandic / Dutch / English / Norwegian / Gothic / Faroese / Danish / Welsh / Manx / Breton / Scottish Gaelic / Cornish / Forn Svenska as they are the prettiest languages ever that are way too pretty not to know, and I am learning them 2gether and many other pretty languages as well, and am advanced level in Icelandic and Norwegian and upper advanced level in Dutch and upper intermediate level in Norse and German and mid intermediate level in Welsh and a few others and beginner level in in most others!
After learning to speak French, Italian and Spanish and then going back to practising my Irish I noticed that I just had to say the words and I already had the right accent. Unlike in the other languages where I had to learn the accents of the languages in order to speak them well. And I didn't grow up speaking Irish as my first language, so that point about our native language shaping how we then spoke English holds true even for parts where our Irish hasn't been the first language for generations.
Having an Irish accent probably helps, but what you have to keep in mind is that we Irish people who learn Irish as a second language often don't use Irish phonetics, but English ones.
That's why there can be a big difference between the native Irish you hear spoken on RnaG for example, and the 'school Irish' or 'urban Irish' often heard outside of the Gaeltachts.
The reason for this is that we are not taught Irish as if it were a foreign language like french/spanish, which we should.
Dia dhuit.
Thank you for sharing. Yes, i have just started to learn Irish. Even though i have no ancestral roots , i like to learn Irish. May be for travelling purposes and to engage with local people.
Tá cúpla focal Gaeilge agam. Slán go fóill, agus go raibh maith agat.
You have no ancestral roots?
Are you an alien 😂
"Engage with local people"
I hope you know that you are not welcomed in Ireland as middle eastern guy.
There are a lot of racist people in Ireland.
So don't waste your time learning the langauge.
@@alisoayd4630 Speak for yourself.
I hope the learning is going well @Zulkifli!
@@alisoayd4630 nah we love everyone with a good attitude. 100% you will have that opinion if you say something stupid like that because most won’t let you get very far after it 😂
Irish is a pretty language, and each pretty language should be learnt for its pretty and poetic words and its artistic value, and learning pretty languages is the best hobby aka the best way to spend the time - I highly recommend learning Irish 2gether with Norse / Icelandic / Dutch / English / Norwegian / Gothic / Faroese / Danish / Welsh / Manx / Breton / Scottish Gaelic / Cornish / Forn Svenska as they are the prettiest languages ever that are way too pretty not to know, and I am learning them 2gether and many other pretty languages as well, and am advanced level in Icelandic and Norwegian and upper advanced level in Dutch and upper intermediate level in Norse and German and mid intermediate level in Welsh and a few others and beginner level in in most others!
I'm learning Irish as an ancestral language because I'm Irish-American. My ancestors were from Cork and Sligo so I'm learning the Munster and Connacht dialects, as well as Standard Irish.
Pactura, I know we aren’t the most welcoming to our diaspora but you are just as Irish as us and always welcome here friend. Good on you for learning the language :)
But the question is, is there such a thing as "Standard Irish"? That term was never mentioned in the video, and I'm wondering if it's because the concept doesn't exist! I get the feeling that each dialect is equal to any other, and there's no one version of Irish that's considered more "correct" than another.
Who gives this 1 dislike? What a putts. This answered my question. I'm learning and was very confused. I've heard it doesn't matter before but I was unsure if that was true. Thanks for clarifying
I appreciate lots of what Eoin does be saying, and it's not my downvote ... but to broaden the conversation: Yes I want to understand every dialect. But I'd like to have a supplemental source to be reasonably consistent in how I speak myself, rather than use a random mix. Fortunately enough, as I understand it, Eoin tends to a Munster accent (my would-be accent) vs. Duolingo that teaches Connacht, or TG4 with a mix where you have to be intentional about who you mimic.
@@torowan➡ I'm learning Irish on Duolingo, and it never occurred to me which dialect it would be using. I'm loving it, by the way, and I only just started yesterday!
Love to learn Irish but I don't read
63 today
Left school at 14 and I have dyslexia
Hopeful to learn
Interesting question.
That's an interesting point. It's about like getting asked, "Which American dialect is the best to learn?"
The best and prettiest accent for English is the neutral American accent, while the best and prettiest Gaelic accent is one of the accents I heard in a video about Celtic languages without accent, and I am also modeling my Irish accent to that Gaelic accent, as the two languages are very closely related, and in that accent in words that have letter combinations such as ionn / eonn / aonn etc the accent or emphasis is on the first vowel and it sounds like í-uhn and é-an etc (the uh is supposed to indicate the schwa sound) and the word agus is pronounced uh-gás with the accent or emphasis or stress on the á - learning the prettiest accent is very important if one wants to sound as good as possible and bring out the best tones and sound patterns and nuances of the language, because in general when it comes to pretty languages most accents don’t do them justice and most speakers in general don’t seem to care about speaking clearly and in a pretty way / accent, and it’s not always easy to find the prettiest accent, especially when the language isn’t very known and there aren’t many resources and many vocal samples on yt to choose from, so I recommend always trying to find the prettiest accent and to learn that accent, and to always learn all phrases and regional terms to be able to understand everything or almost everything!
Sin comhairle mhaith, míle buíochas agus ádh mór 👍👍😊
Thanks for your advice
Great video! Thank you for these advices!!
That´s good advice! Thank you for the vid!
Thank you for send me and informed me about dialects and accents of each region from Ireland. 😗👍☘🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪Slainte.
Thanks for your very useful advice. I'm teaching myself Gaeilge on the other side of the world and rely on Bite Size Irish.
Thank you sir this is very appreciated and much needed thank you thank you
I don't have anyone to talk to and practice. But thank god, there is media. I'm really getting into gaelic music the last few years. And that is were I will start to flip my inner switch - In actually, someday, understanding gaelic songs word by word :D I never had english speaking friends. I learned it at school and after that I got even better just by watching every movie in english or especially in watching youtubers speaking english. Now, funny enough, I'm talking to myself in english. I understand it like my own language. And that is so awesome once you realize that. I feel a deep connection to Ireland in my heart, even though I was never there... Is that weird? It is my dream to someday visit the country. But before that I want to master the language, educate myself about the history and people. I really want to know so much more about Ireland! And I got the feeling that I will feel at home there :) So, wish me luck! I'm doing my best to get better with my gaelic every day. Practice, practice, practice! >:D
Thank you, Owen. Your passion and sincerity are evident, my friend. Thank you for articulating this aspect of my grandmother's mother tongue.
Here's a question for you: Is it disconcerting for native speakers to hear learners mixing up two or more dialects - in the same sentence? Or do they just "go with the flow" and accept the fact that we're still learning?
I contend that there are two basic audiences for us learners: Those who are eager to correct everything we say and those who are actually trying to understand what we mean to say. :)
I really love that Irish acent
Specially when speak gaelic.
And thanks for the video.
Now I think it is more difficult
Nil an teanga seo éasca
I know this is an old video but thank you so much for making this as I have always wondered. I was born in Dublin but spent seven years in Carlow and the rest in Dublin so far. Learning Irish for me at the beginning was tough as the teacher or teachers overall, was not the best and by that I mean that either the resources for the teachers was not great or the teacher themselves was not the best, or possibly both. Primary school, it was alright, secondary not so much, especially in the first year, that was totally down to the teachers style, I got a D in the exams from his style of 'teaching'. I got put into a different Irish class in second year and there was an improvement, I didn't realise how much at the time but it was there, not only in my self(mentally) but also in how I spoke the language. Then in third year still the same teacher, which was great. She really was a wonderful teacher. We had our exams. When I got back to school my Irish teacher filled me with so much praise from my exam results(They get to see them before the students do, well, if they care to check anyway) I got an 'A' or as she put it 'We don't have anything higher than an 'A' but if we did you would have an 'A+++' I was surprised. My English exam result....I got a 'C' which was surprising to a lot of teachers as I was considered ''well spoken'' compared to other students which I found to be incredibly vexing and not only belittling to other students just because they sounded ''different''...being put into boxes is not fun.
Anyway, I did better than I thought I would do and to the surprise of a lot of others. But since it has been well over a decade my Irish is not up to conversational par if you know what I mean. As I have not spoken it on a daily basis, my skill if you were is not there any more. I still know and recognise a fair bit, but it is not great to be honest. So this long winded post is to ask, is it alright for me, as an Irish person wanting to rekindle their love and appreciation for their Irish language, go to a Gaeltacht one summer and really get into hearing, speaking and doing everything in Irish? because as a Dubliner I suppose, we kinda feel like we are not that welcome in those parts as we don't, well, speak 'proper' Irish. I always wondered what dialect I should learn which meant what Gaeltacht should I go to. Now I know it really doesn't matter, which to be honest, I never thought it did , I know it is nice to learn each dialect, more so out of respect and even more so out of ease, but it is nice knowing that I, amongst many many others, can feel free to learn any dialect, or all, or a mish mash.
Also, I love your bitesize Irish.
Go mhaith
Thanks for this video.
I have started learning Irish language ... i thought the Munster dialect sounded like the Liverpool (England) accent; which is where i am from originally. My great grandmother was from Ireland O'Connor. Looking forward to learning more :)
Really interesting and sensible, thanks. And so brave of you to keep talking in the middle of an earthquake… the way that grounds behind you keeps shifting - eek !
I'd like to know more about the Leinster dialect. I'd appreciate any information about it. GMMA!
I just downloaded rosetta stone unlimited,the first language i'm going to dive into is Irish.I want to become as fluent as possible in the language.I have Irish ancestry on both sides of my family and wish to visit Ireland one day.
Great video Eoghan, the sound is mistimed from the video by about 2 seconds, just a heads-up in case it's easily fixed...
Thank You For Your Information .Can You Tell Me What Region of Ireland or County Are the Surnames
FAHLE AND MOORHEAD
I am not a Gaeilgeoir ó dhúchais. I learnt Munster Irish. I have no difficulty with the western or northern forms.
The whole pseudo problem of dialects is overblown. They are nothing like the dialects in Italy which are essentially separate languages. Although I speak standard Italian I still can get by with goodwill on both sides. It's nothing so complicated with Irish.
Mar sin bíodh misneach agaibh! So Be confident!
Munster Irish and Mayo Gaelic are very different
I will give it a go again.
I am learning Irish and the other Celtic languages little by little because there aren’t many resources at the moment and no vocab videos with hundreds and thousands of words and correct and clear pronunciation for each word etc, which makes it very difficult for one to learn the Celtic languages the same way as one learns very known languages like Dutch and German which have tons of different vocab videos and all sorts of videos on grammar by tons of yts, so Celtic languages aren’t as easy to learn as Dutch and German, but there is always a way, it’s just that it may take longer, due to the very limited number of videos that are on yt at the moment, but hopefully there will be many resources in the near future, as the modern Celtic languages are very pretty, so they should be very known - I highly recommend learning Irish 2gether with Norse / Icelandic / Dutch / English / Norwegian / Gothic / Faroese / Danish / Welsh / Manx / Breton / Scottish Gaelic / Cornish / Forn Svenska as they are the prettiest languages ever that are way too pretty not to know, and I am learning them 2gether and many other pretty languages as well, and am advanced level in Icelandic and Norwegian and upper advanced level in Dutch and upper intermediate level in Norse and German and mid intermediate level in Welsh and a few others and beginner level in in most others!
The Irish speak Irish Gaelic
I was learning Iriish in Wexford in the 60's and 70's what dialect was I learning?
What about the pop up ghaeiltacht groups tgat say that nit soeaking in a specufuc ghaeiltacht dialect and really talk against urban Irish?
It confuses me
Is it correct to write it as Mr. Barrett?
I'm trying to learn but even just learning Hello I've come across different pronunciations. Do you know what dialect Duo Lingo uses and how can a beginner like me tell what dialect I'm hearing? Are there clues?
Connacht, I believe.
It’s definitely not Ulster, for Ulster is softer in it’s pronunciation.
I downloaded Ireland radio app but the problem is that they are speaking English! Can you recommend me a radio channel?
Hamed, you can try this www.rte.ie/rnag/
Radio na Life
Honestly I would say this advice isn't the greatest. If you want to learn a dialect (i.e. the real Irish spoken in Irish speaking districts) you should start with it.
I started with standard Irish and was a total waste of time. Had to relearn so much.
If you just want standard Irish, that's fine but I'd recommend thinking about it beforehand. Not impossible to change after just a lot of extra work
go raibh maith agat for being sensitive to us irish diaspora and our feelings about learning our language and reclaiming our culture.
Mr. T de Bhaldraithe?
Aldehyde? Ketone? Alcohol?
Adelstein.
Mr. Edward A.
J. T. Barrett book.
Which modern dialect has been least influenced by other languages? Which is closest to the Old Irish?
@@BitesizeIrish Thank you so much! If I might ask, how would one go about learning Classical Irish? Are there any courses online for it?
Again, thank you! Now, I have one more question, and I’ll leave you in peace: I have a New Testament in Irish. Do you know where I could obtain the audio of someone’s reading it in Irish? I do appreciate your kind help with my questions.
Ulster, well actually Scottish Gaelic is the closest to old Irish but Ulster Irish is less anglicsed compared to Munster Irish which is the most influenced by English and French, What makes it less anglicised is how native speakers pronounce words, the pronunciation of words in some dialects is becoming more like English. Ulster was the most Irish province and most resistant to the British which is one of the reasons it was colonised instead of the south.
Where can I learn Ulster Irish?
Should I learn Gaelic if I go to Northern Éire?
I think you'll be fine.
Louth, Monaghan, Cavan, Leitrim, Sligo and Donegal will speak Gaelic and English
Gaelic is what they speak in Scotland 🏴, but in Ireland 🇮🇪 they speak Irish ☘️. The word Gaeilge is translated as Irish, not Gaelic. Most Irish speakers will tell you that. Anyway, in Northern Ireland, they speak English and Irish, but that’s a different country from Ireland.
or cen chaoi a bhfuil tú? I always use conas tá tú
Best are conamara and donegal
See for example Korean Billy explaining English accents on RUclips
Why are the trees bending?
TL;DR
The differences are not big enough to focus on them.
What is the difference between Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic?
Tapadh leibh.
Nothing
Michael don’t lie 😒
There different languages
10:56 AM
The Foreigners - simply watch / listen to the media... and we really don't know any better.
Go raibh maith agat as an fhaisneis thabhachtach seo.
My Doctor is from Connemara. I said to him tá sé gaofar scamallach atá inniu he said I'm Leinster and he didn't understand for his Connacht ☹️
An chéad
Sláinte
Sláinte
I just want to make sure I’m learning O’Brien.
But he is frm Dubland.
Short answer, learn Ulster
Ní aontaím leat a chara. Mura canúint amháin í atá dhá foghlaim agad níl inti ach droch-Ghaeilge. Ní hé nach bhfuil ann ach "rud suimiúil" faoin nGaeilge, is ceann go na rudaí is tábhachtaí í an chanúint atá agad
But here is a reason I see to focus on 1 dialect: Pronunciation
Maigh Eo abú