❤This is the kind of problems I want to be encountering 😂😂...Teach him more Fada cos I took time to listen to wat he was saying on this matter but thank God I stumbled on ur teaching ❤❤❤ well done padre❤❤❤
Knowledge from an institution of knowledge can be more powerful than inspiration based on intelligence. I took time to listen to one hour side of this debate from Damina perspective and juxtaposed it with fada oluma barely 30mins of the two videos,it becomes clear that Fada oluma validates the scriptures and the teachings of Christ, the apostles,disciples,the church and true believers and amazingly Very humbly. Padre my applause, thanks for saving the Catholic faithfuls and Christianity.
Honestly, I couldn't finish listening to Abel. The more I listened to grab his point, the more confused I was due to contradictory, disconnected and unfounded theories. I refuse to associate what Abel did with intelligence because it is very far from what intelligence is all about.
Well done Fada Oluoma, may God's anointing over you be continually renewed through Christ our Lord, 🙏. When I listened to Mr. Abel, I couldn't follow his explanations to the very end cos I was hearing loads of blasphemy and atrocious statements that is capable of polluting the soul, cos words are like seed; and the seed of evil once planted is difficult to uproot. The word of God does not contradict itself. Knowledge is given to those who earnestly seek for it with humility. Abel Damina's conversion is very close if he opens his heart completely to the Holy Spirit.
Thank you fada. I am happy now that you have finally addressed all the fallacious and erroneous things that gushed out of Abel's mouth including baptism. But one thing is remaining. He cast aspersions on our Blessed Virgin Mary. Please, you can treat some wounded souls by redirecting them to the truth.
But if confessing of sin is what brings forgiveness then salvation, what of the ones I do not remember or not aware of because it must be confessed with my mouth, please help me make it make sense to me
@uyioghosaobasuyi7621 When the penitent goes for confession, the Catholic Church also puts into consideration the limitation of the human memory who confesses . There is a possibility of not remembering everything and so, the church teaches that the penitent can say the following at the end of their confession: “for what I could remember and what I cannot remember I ask for God’s mercy and pardon or forgiveness”. “For what I could remember “ refers to the parts of an experience or event that a person can recall clearly from their memory, while “what I cannot remember “ refers to the details or aspects of an event that are lost to the memory and cannot be recalled, essentially meaning the person has forgotten them.
The bible says all the sins committed unknown can be forgiven. One thing is to accept that you sinned against God and confess the ones you could remember and ask for forgiveness, for God' who knows all your sins will forgive you provided you confessed with your whole heart.Then you ask for the Holy spirit to continue to guide and take control of your own self, so that you can resist sons
What i discovered over this years is that all these pastors that attack the Catholic Church do so not because they don't know that Catholic is the only true church of God, but because they find attacking Catholic Church- a more popular and universal religion -the easiest way to get attention and draw weak christians to their church. If not, why not preach your message and allow the Godliness or good attitudes (light) of your members to win you more souls to your church. People are tired of bible quotations: they need good character quotations.
On baptism, Damina says water is symbolic of spirit. Let's assume he's right. The Catholic church use water accordingly as an outward sign of blessing or washing during baptism, yet Damina says it's wrong 😊. Damina says you baptize with the holy spirit. He said Jesus is the one doing baptism with the holy spirit. But the holy spirit is not some material you can simply collect from a shelf and use. Now, his argument on this would be once a priest or pastor says, "I baptize you in the name of the father, son, and spirit", and you believe it, then you're baptized. But this act, brings into question the authority of the person performing this baptism. I, for one, would question the authority of the minister or a person to perform baptism on me. And if he says anybody who has been baptised can baptize, then a father or mother or the oldest siblings can baptise their children or younger ones. Extended, church would or should just be a family affair where the father is the minister. If it also rests on the faith or belief of the person being baptized. This, therefore, implies that baptism is nullified on and off once the baptized believes or unbelieves. That is, if a baptized goes on later in life to become an unbeliever, he becomes unbaptised. It also questions the essence of infant baptism - infants have near-zero understanding of their environment.
😢 IGNORANT IS THE HIGHEST DISEASE IN THE RELIGIOUS SPACE 😢My people perish because they lack & block knowledge... 😢Ignorant of the spirit of the word of God is never an excuse... 😢Bible school of theology is never a spiritual school of God. 😢Religiosity is Never a spirituality, they are two different pallarel lines...but they can meet today in the salvation terminals if they want... 😢Although the religiosity was meant to groom and nourish spirituality but reverse has been the case... 😢And that gap created, was causing all the commotions and confusions in the worshiping of God with our heart and mind... 😢Spirit of Knowledge should be the first class status to attend before any other things #Echo ..😢
It's strange that a principle Dr Damina used in his other exposee that THE OT IS TYPES AND SHADOWS OF THE NEW, but when it comes to reflection on Catholic doctrine, he throws that away. The rites of baptism connects the water in Gen1, the flood of Noah, crossing the red sea, and connecting it to baptism in the new testament. And most importantly, baptism was for the new covenant as circumcision was for the old. What I was most disappointed was with the pride of his speech and certainty in his interpretation as if he authored the Bible.
Water, that is (Greek, kai) the Spirit. The bible was not written in English. The first church continued with water baptism because of persecution they needed to publicly declare their faith and avoid imposters. I baptise you with water but one greater than me will baptise you with the Holy Ghost. (John the baptist). The reason I came baptising with water was so that the Messiah would be manifested in Israel (John the baptist), that is why Jesus had to fulfill that righteousness.
Abel only read the Bible but doesn't understand the Bible reading is one thing but understand it is another from the way he talk its shows clearly that he doesn't understand the Bible
Father, Jesus meant baptism of the Holy Spirit. He didn’t promise the thief on the cross with him salvation and paradise after “water baptism.” Who baptized John the Baptist??? Who baptized those before Jesus? However, you can do your water baptism without distracting us from the main issue bedeviling Christianity today; “transactional gospel.” Water baptism is not a prerequisite to salvation and heaven: John 3:16.
John 3:16 ask questions b4 u talk that who believe in him will not parish ask ur self, how can I believe in Jesus just as Nicodemus ask Jesus Christ! Except a man is born of water and spirit
I which you are a catholic but ur mind is already lost in the month church we have call baptism by blood the thief in the cross already know he was going to die because of the bad things he has done in Jesus Christ did not don everything and the other thief at the other hand was mocking Jesus Christ and the other one at the right define him,see this Jesus have mercy upon him and give him salvation because no way for him to be baptized (the is what we call grace the new covenant) in John 3:16 for God so love the world, In love we have law In law we grace And through Grace we have Marcy If the law say baptism and a good person did not have opportunity to baptism or he/ she was not aware on time before before death what will happen this is where grace and mercy come in as the convent which men lack in the time of old You know my God is not a wicked God Jesus was baptized when he has no sin then who are you ? Are u holy then him?
Don't mind Dr Damina. 😂 I heard this distortion of scriptures back then in UI. It was very strange to me. Anyone with basic knowledge of scriptures can counter him. 😂😂
Father, I guess as a priest or man of God, you guys don't listen to each others messages, me I know for sure that if you listen to his messages or series from beginning to end especially on soteria and in Christ realities you will be convinced beyond doubt with all facts and evidence backed with scriptures. Well for me weather I eat bread or drink blood or swim in water fir baptism, the major foundation for me is that doctrine of salvation, and I'm save and forever saved its UNDISPUTED 😊😊.
That is an erroneous teaching and St Paul mentioned this in 1 Cor 10,2... He also said in Phil 2,12...work out your salvation with fear and trembling....the doctrine of once saved, saved for ever is a wrong teaching...if you don't live right continuously in the love of God you can lose your salvation ... enough said!!!
What left many people unrepentant is continuous arguing on the same word of God in which they are guilty of, instead of working for their own repentance!!
Chai! This is one the dangers that force people like Fr. Oluoma to respond publicly like this. Teachings that make people abstain from simple, available, material and ordinary things God kept for human salvation is dangerous. Should God make salvation very difficult before it is believed to be true; just as we easily believe that more costly things are always better?
❤This is the kind of problems I want to be encountering 😂😂...Teach him more Fada cos I took time to listen to wat he was saying on this matter but thank God I stumbled on ur teaching ❤❤❤ well done padre❤❤❤
Knowledge from an institution of knowledge can be more powerful than inspiration based on intelligence.
I took time to listen to one hour side of this debate from Damina perspective and juxtaposed it with fada oluma barely 30mins of the two videos,it becomes clear that Fada oluma validates the scriptures and the teachings of Christ, the apostles,disciples,the church and true believers and amazingly Very humbly.
Padre my applause, thanks for saving the Catholic faithfuls and Christianity.
Take those scriptures from the priest and read them in context.
Honestly, I couldn't finish listening to Abel. The more I listened to grab his point, the more confused I was due to contradictory, disconnected and unfounded theories.
I refuse to associate what Abel did with intelligence because it is very far from what intelligence is all about.
More blessings Blessed Padre
Happy New Year Fr
Thank you Fr, from South Africa
Well done Fada Oluoma, may God's anointing over you be continually renewed through Christ our Lord, 🙏.
When I listened to Mr. Abel, I couldn't follow his explanations to the very end cos I was hearing loads of blasphemy and atrocious statements that is capable of polluting the soul, cos words are like seed; and the seed of evil once planted is difficult to uproot.
The word of God does not contradict itself. Knowledge is given to those who earnestly seek for it with humility. Abel Damina's conversion is very close if he opens his heart completely to the Holy Spirit.
Thank you fada. I am happy now that you have finally addressed all the fallacious and erroneous things that gushed out of Abel's mouth including baptism. But one thing is remaining. He cast aspersions on our Blessed Virgin Mary. Please, you can treat some wounded souls by redirecting them to the truth.
Great exposae Fr. Thanks dear Fr
Nice biblical exegesis!
Paul baptized Crispus & Gaius in I Corinthians 1:14
I ask all of you to write down the scriptures the priest is reading and when you get home, read them in the context please.
which context? The context you created....
Thank you father 😊
Thank you very much.
Thanks you so so much fr for the explanation
Was saint Joseph, the earthly father of Jesus baptized? Thank you for your teaching father
@@obiflex very good question go and look for him and ask him
But if confessing of sin is what brings forgiveness then salvation, what of the ones I do not remember or not aware of because it must be confessed with my mouth, please help me make it make sense to me
@uyioghosaobasuyi7621
When the penitent goes for confession, the Catholic Church also puts into consideration the limitation of the human memory who confesses . There is a possibility of not remembering everything and so, the church teaches that the penitent can say the following at the end of their confession: “for what I could remember and what I cannot remember I ask for God’s mercy and pardon or forgiveness”.
“For what I could remember “ refers to the parts of an experience or event that a person can recall clearly from their memory, while “what I cannot remember “ refers to the details or aspects of an event that are lost to the memory and cannot be recalled, essentially meaning the person has forgotten them.
The bible says all the sins committed unknown can be forgiven. One thing is to accept that you sinned against God and confess the ones you could remember and ask for forgiveness, for God' who knows all your sins will forgive you provided you confessed with your whole heart.Then you ask for the Holy spirit to continue to guide and take control of your own self, so that you can resist sons
We Commit sin both conscious and unconscious.(Unconscious can be in your thinking and inactions)
The sins you don't sincerely remember are forgiven because God has seen your contrite heart.
Sound explanation. No bi just to dey blab like Abel. The Catholic church has the answers
My problem is those sitting in that church nodding head at his teaching
He needs to go to the village and farm
That man is possessed
Yes ooooo and he wants to introduce another kind of evil teachings to gather souls for the devil and lead them to hell
Is Water baptism and baptism with the Holy Spirit two different events? Just a trigger...Paul said there is one baptism.
Please Which bible vision is FR reading from?
Which Bible do you want fr. to read from ?? How many bible do you have?? Don't you know that Catholic church is the Author of the Bible itself!!
@nigeriabello3183 I asked an honest question. If you know tell me
@@increasejude5617the GOOD NEWS bible.
You can use any bible to check what's he's saying
That is why it is corrupted. Have you ever read a bible? @@nigeriabello3183
I think is Good news
What i discovered over this years is that all these pastors that attack the Catholic Church do so not because they don't know that Catholic is the only true church of God, but because they find attacking Catholic Church- a more popular and universal religion -the easiest way to get attention and draw weak christians to their church. If not, why not preach your message and allow the Godliness or good attitudes (light) of your members to win you more souls to your church.
People are tired of bible quotations: they need good character quotations.
On baptism, Damina says water is symbolic of spirit. Let's assume he's right. The Catholic church use water accordingly as an outward sign of blessing or washing during baptism, yet Damina says it's wrong 😊.
Damina says you baptize with the holy spirit. He said Jesus is the one doing baptism with the holy spirit. But the holy spirit is not some material you can simply collect from a shelf and use.
Now, his argument on this would be once a priest or pastor says, "I baptize you in the name of the father, son, and spirit", and you believe it, then you're baptized. But this act, brings into question the authority of the person performing this baptism. I, for one, would question the authority of the minister or a person to perform baptism on me. And if he says anybody who has been baptised can baptize, then a father or mother or the oldest siblings can baptise their children or younger ones. Extended, church would or should just be a family affair where the father is the minister.
If it also rests on the faith or belief of the person being baptized. This, therefore, implies that baptism is nullified on and off once the baptized believes or unbelieves. That is, if a baptized goes on later in life to become an unbeliever, he becomes unbaptised. It also questions the essence of infant baptism - infants have near-zero understanding of their environment.
😢 IGNORANT IS THE HIGHEST DISEASE IN THE RELIGIOUS SPACE
😢My people perish because they lack & block knowledge...
😢Ignorant of the spirit of the word of God is never an excuse...
😢Bible school of theology is never a spiritual school of God.
😢Religiosity is Never a spirituality, they are two different pallarel lines...but they can meet today in the salvation terminals if they want...
😢Although the religiosity was meant to groom and nourish spirituality but reverse has been the case...
😢And that gap created, was causing all the commotions and confusions in the worshiping of God with our heart and mind...
😢Spirit of Knowledge should be the first class status to attend before any other things
#Echo ..😢
Damina should calm down.
It's strange that a principle Dr Damina used in his other exposee that THE OT IS TYPES AND SHADOWS OF THE NEW, but when it comes to reflection on Catholic doctrine, he throws that away. The rites of baptism connects the water in Gen1, the flood of Noah, crossing the red sea, and connecting it to baptism in the new testament. And most importantly, baptism was for the new covenant as circumcision was for the old.
What I was most disappointed was with the pride of his speech and certainty in his interpretation as if he authored the Bible.
Water, that is (Greek, kai) the Spirit. The bible was not written in English.
The first church continued with water baptism because of persecution they needed to publicly declare their faith and avoid imposters.
I baptise you with water but one greater than me will baptise you with the Holy Ghost. (John the baptist).
The reason I came baptising with water was so that the Messiah would be manifested in Israel (John the baptist), that is why Jesus had to fulfill that righteousness.
Abel only read the Bible but doesn't understand the Bible reading is one thing but understand it is another from the way he talk its shows clearly that he doesn't understand the Bible
Father, Jesus meant baptism of the Holy Spirit.
He didn’t promise the thief on the cross with him salvation and paradise after “water baptism.”
Who baptized John the Baptist???
Who baptized those before Jesus?
However, you can do your water baptism without distracting us from the main issue bedeviling Christianity today; “transactional gospel.”
Water baptism is not a prerequisite to salvation and heaven: John 3:16.
I sorry for u
John 3:16 ask questions b4 u talk
that who believe in him will not parish ask ur self, how can I believe in Jesus just as Nicodemus ask Jesus Christ! Except a man is born of water and spirit
@
Figurative “water and spirit” just as the “miracle of Jonah” and “destroy the temple.”
@
There is no rocket science in believing in Jesus as in John 3:16.
The simplest example was the thief on the cross with Jesus.
How did he believe?
I which you are a catholic but ur mind is already lost in the month church we have call baptism by blood the thief in the cross already know he was going to die because of the bad things he has done in Jesus Christ did not don everything and the other thief at the other hand was mocking Jesus Christ and the other one at the right define him,see this Jesus have mercy upon him and give him salvation because no way for him to be baptized (the is what we call grace the new covenant) in John 3:16 for God so love the world,
In love we have law
In law we grace
And through Grace we have Marcy
If the law say baptism and a good person did not have opportunity to baptism or he/ she was not aware on time before before death what will happen this is where grace and mercy come in as the convent which men lack in the time of old
You know my God is not a wicked God Jesus was baptized when he has no sin then who are you ? Are u holy then him?
Though am not a Catholic but i want to state here that anyone listening to Abel Damina is wasting his time and will get confused as him. QED
'and there is conjunction': First error is to take the Bible as an English material. My Fada, you're not doing due diligence 😅
Don't mind Dr Damina. 😂 I heard this distortion of scriptures back then in UI. It was very strange to me.
Anyone with basic knowledge of scriptures can counter him. 😂😂
What of you?
You still lack basic knowledge of the scripture?
Because, is expect your counter straight up sire.
Father Oluoma go hide
Father, I guess as a priest or man of God, you guys don't listen to each others messages, me I know for sure that if you listen to his messages or series from beginning to end especially on soteria and in Christ realities you will be convinced beyond doubt with all facts and evidence backed with scriptures.
Well for me weather I eat bread or drink blood or swim in water fir baptism, the major foundation for me is that doctrine of salvation, and I'm save and forever saved its UNDISPUTED 😊😊.
That is an erroneous teaching and St Paul mentioned this in 1 Cor 10,2... He also said in Phil 2,12...work out your salvation with fear and trembling....the doctrine of once saved, saved for ever is a wrong teaching...if you don't live right continuously in the love of God you can lose your salvation ... enough said!!!
So with all the teaching you heard here you still want to argue
What left many people unrepentant is continuous arguing on the same word of God in which they are guilty of, instead of working for their own repentance!!
Chai!
This is one the dangers that force people like Fr. Oluoma to respond publicly like this.
Teachings that make people abstain from simple, available, material and ordinary things God kept for human salvation is dangerous. Should God make salvation very difficult before it is believed to be true; just as we easily believe that more costly things are always better?
Hummmm, Abel Damina, just dey preach, doing cut and nail preaching,be making mouth, they have told him to face Catholic Church, wrong mission