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Until you understand the symbology in Christianity which has its roots in so many culture preceding the Christian era ,you'll continue to get confused and obfuscated. Maybe your problem is Symbology and not just the Crucifix/images. If so, the questions you should be asking, should have gone a little back to the serpent's image that Moses, who grew up in the court of Pharaoh ( see Acts 7 : 22) and copied the Egyptian culture and mysteries in toto (Moses copied the book of creation from Egypt's Orphic mysteries which is a mythological representation of some ancient truth ), of whom God later directed to make and raise for the Jews to be healed. A gesture so wonderful that hundreds of years later Christ had to say "JUST AS MOSES RAISED THE BRONZE SERPENT FOR THE SALVATION OF THE JEW,SO SHALL HE BE RAISED FOR THE SALVATION OF MAN". The bronze serpent employed by Moses seemed against one of the tenets of the commandment if viewed straight like a zombie, but Christ would later employ the significance of that image as a metaphor for man's salvation through him. The question is " why an image ? (Num. 21:8-9). One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations. Catholics use statues, paintings, and other artistic devices to recall the person or thing depicted. Just as it helps to remember one’s mother by looking at her photograph, so it helps to recall the example of the saints by looking at pictures of them. Catholics also use statues as teaching tools. In the early Church they were especially useful for the instruction of the illiterate. Many Protestants have pictures of Jesus and other Bible pictures in Sunday school for teaching children. Catholics also use statues to commemorate certain people and events, much as Protestant churches have three-dimensional nativity scenes at Christmas. God forbids the worship of images as gods, but he doesn’t ban the making of images. Early in its history, Israel was forbidden to make any depictions of God because he had not revealed himself in a visible form. Given the pagan culture surrounding them, the Israelites might have been tempted to worship God in the form of an animal or some natural object (e.g., a bull or the sun). But later God did reveal himself under visible forms, such as in Daniel 7:9: “As I looked, thrones were placed and one that was Ancient of Days took his seat; his raiment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like pure wool; his throne was fiery flames, its wheels were burning fire.” Protestants make depictions of the Father under this form when they do illustrations of Old Testament prophecies. The Holy Spirit revealed himself under at least two visible forms-that of a dove, at the baptism of Jesus (Matt. 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22; John 1:32), and as tongues of fire, on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4). Protestants use these images when drawing or painting these biblical episodes and when they wear Holy Spirit lapel pins or place dove emblems on their cars. But more important, in the incarnation of Christ his Son, God showed mankind an icon of himself. Paul said, “He is the image (Greek: ikon) of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.” Christ is the tangible, divine “icon” of the unseen, infinite God. We read that when the magi were “going into the house they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshipped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold, frankincense, and myrrh” (Matt. 2:11). Though God did not reveal a form for himself on Mount Horeb, he did reveal one in the house in Bethlehem. Common sense tells us that, since God has revealed himself in various images, most especially in the incarnate Jesus Christ, it’s not wrong for us to use images of these forms to deepen our knowledge and love of God. That’s why God revealed himself in these visible forms, and that’s why statues and pictures are made of them. Do you know one can be juxtaposing religious objects (Crucifix) with idols, with out knowing that the much value he/ she places on paper money alone for an example, has already made that money his or her idol. For example your family and close friends probably know you better than you think. If your spouse, children or friends look like they want to head for the hills when you bring up the subject of money (again), it may be an idol. Luke 6:45 says “the mouth speaks what the heart is full of” (NIV). A certain amount of money talk is healthy and necessary, but the subject shouldn’t come up every day. Don’t let an obsession with money damage or ruin a relationship. What do you think about when you first wake up? What’s on your mind just before you fall asleep? If your first and last thoughts of the day are centered on money-earning more, saving more, spending more or paying off more-it may be an idol. The Bible tells us we control our own thoughts, and we are to take every thought captive to make it obedient to Christ (2 Corinthians 10:5). So idol are not limited to statues A splendid day ahead of you !

My grandmother was a strong catholic and they don’t read the Bible.

Probably you don't listen when scriptures are read. You may be among those that come late, sleep and go home.

​@@ruthmonday2458your grandmother told you this or your assumption?

So what really happened between lazarus and the rich man 2)then why do you refer to God as the God of abraham issac elijah and so on, are they not dead but elisha did so after receiving the mantle from elijah secondly what about the transfiguration of christ what was he doin with the (DEAD) prophets 3) where does it state in the bible that 1 must get to a certain age before you can now be baptised 4) where in the bible was it mentioned to pray with the bible and explain to me what is a bible? 5)Talking of graven image that altar at your church you face while praying even some people go to an extent to bow while praying isn't that hypocritical of you all? also speaking of the CRUCIFIX not CROSS isn't it more symbolical to have it as a reminder of my the holy sacrifice of christ than having a useless sticker of 1 pastor's inage on it written may lightning strike all my enemies in the name of Jesus pasted on my door in the name of faith because the so called papa or g.o has blessed it and sold to me as a sacred vessel isn't this hypocritical? They end up turning your attention from christ to themselves Speaking of the dead don't pray for the living after the transfiguration took place what was Peter's statement to christ ? And as a Christian you believe if someone dies in christ i remember vividly christ himself said the person will have everlasting life do you know that calling the saints dead people indirectly is contradictory ?

And you saying you wanted to become a priest, my dear your level of scriptural understanding i can tell you for free that you lied on this aspect because you can't go through the Catholic Church seminary school (ATTENTIVELY) without having to know the bible. I MYSELF SPEAKING TO YOU I'M JUST A LAY FAITHFUL

@@IkechukwuOsondu-z6y I will be careful to answer your questions according to the numbering; 1. Between Lazarus and the Rich Man, Luke 16:20-31, try read the Scripture, The Rich man died and went to hell, while Lazarus died and went to Heaven in Abraham's bosom. Only two destinations, hell and Heaven, the dead is not allowed to communicate with the living. the rest you can see on the above passages 2. God is the God of all. Abraham served and worshipped him, so also was Elijah and all who served God. Note, no one prays to Abraham or Elijah for any form of mediation, Only Christ is our advocate and mediator 1 John 2:1 3. About Baptism: Mark 16:15-16 before Jesus went into Heaven he said, Go ye into the World and preach the Gospel to every creature, He that and is baptized shall be saved. First thing someone must teach or preach the Gospel to you, then the condition to be Baptized is that you must Believe in Jesus through the teaching/preaching before you are baptized. An infant is not taught, and doesn't believe yet, looking at the Baptism of Jesus himself, he walked to John and demanded to be baptized, did his Earthly parents carry him to be sprinkled with water? Nope 4. The Bible is the written word of God, When Jesus was tempted by Satan, Jesus replied, "it is written". In Ephesians 6: 13-17, the Bible says take unto you the whole Armour of God that you may be able to withstand the evil day, verse 17 says and take the helmet of Salvation(which means you must be saved) and the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God. 5. I don't know what you call an alter, I hope you are referring the podium or Pulpit, that is a platform or stage you climb on to minister, It has no image of anything, My own alter is my heart. We believe as Christian that Christ was crucified, he died on the cross and was buried, he rose up from the dead after 3 days and has ascended into Heaven and he is glorified. This is a mystery you must know that Jesus came to earth and took the form(body) of man that doesn't mean he is a man, he had to put on flesh in order to relate with man, when he ascended into Glory, that manly body has been put off and he is now in his glorified body, example, the closest disciple to Jesus was John (the beloved) after John had escaped death and met Jesus on the island of Patmos in Revelation 1:1-18 When Jesus spoke to him and introduced himself to John, John turned to see who was speaking, (He described how Jesus looks like) John did not recognize his master that he was so close to. That image you have on the cross is not the Jesus that's Glorified. I sincerely hope you have been able to learn from this discussion and I encourage you to get a Bible and develop a Bible study plan, study the word of God, feel free to ask questions, I can give you my email, ask your questions and I will be glad to respond to it. God bless you. Shalon

That is why we have the Eucharistic meditation or rosary meditation where you can spend time meditating on the bible passages. Even then, you can still sleep.

@paulnwokemodo7601 humn where is Roasry in the old testament?

@paulnwokemodo7601 theres no difference between Catholicism and other pegan religions. Use of beeds(in prayer) rosary for catholic Necromancy (talking or praying to the death) praying to saints for catholics Engraving images Geneflecting Infront of engraven images The list goes on and on. They haven't realized they are being duped.

@@amz_news 1. Rosary starts with "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" Matthew 28:19 2. We pray, " I believe in God" Isaiah 44:6; Act14:15 3. We pray "Our Father" matt 6:9 4. Hail Mary. Lk1:28; 41-42 5.Glory be to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. 6. We then meditate on the BIBLE STORY OR VERSES relating to: A. Annunciation by Angel Gabriel from God. Lk1:28 B. Visitation between Mary and Elizabeth. Lk1:40 C.Birth of of Jesus Christ. Lk2:7-14 D. Presentation of Jesus Christ in the Temple Lk2:22--40 E. Finding of the Child Jesus Christ Lk2:41-52 F.Baptism of Jesus Etc

@@amz_news Now that you see the Rosary in the bible, are you going to pray the Rosary?

What other name are you looking for? You just mentioned them: God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy spirit. The three persons in one God. They co exist, work together.

@afamefunaokechukwu9439 so we have three Gods? Yes or no. If yes which one do we worship or pray to? Or Father, Son n Holy Spirit are just titles that point to the name Jesus?

You don't need to prove an arrogant person wrong. It will only be a waste of engagement. I like the person of Abel damina but he always claim to knows it all attitude some times piss me off. He talks as if he have all the knowledge but that 100% wrong.

On your first point, I’d like to let you know that some of these Priests are human and sometimes bring their own personal piety and biases into how they do things. So some Priest might find it convenient asking members to make too many contributions while some others don’t and would rather look for other means to raise these funds. And on teaching principles of wealth creation, there are other programmes and Societies in the Church where that can be achieved, it doesn’t have to be at Mass. On your second point, the Homily is not a seminar or a motivational talk session where there’s a speaker and there’s a question and answer session afterwards. There’s a reason it’s called a reflection, you are meant to reflect and ponder on what you just read or head. If you have any questions on any issue that doesn’t seem clear or conflicting, you are free to seek the Priest after Mass and get your confusing or questions sorted.

Common sense is not common to reason ekwa!

It seems as though your years in school was simply a waste. I forgot that understand is far from someone like you.

Matthew 28:19

Are you here to learn or prove a point??? If you need to know the Gospel and the big, go read Greek and figure it out for yourself. It's either you are catholic or you are not, there is only one Holy church in the world which is catholic and she accepts insults from her children and at the same time still shows them love and pray for them.

Some human being can just be so narrow minded head. If you really listen with an open mind for learning to understand you won't be too quick to ask this your mumu questions. The answers you seek are well explained in this 8minutes short clip.

I hope you don't say the Lord's prayer, "Our Father..."? It seems you were late in coming to this life to tell Christ that He shouldn't have taught His followers that prayer because it is ritualistic. Again, once you read or heard any passage of the bible, do not dare read or listen them over time because that is ritualistic Even you can stop sleeping in bed, try on top of trees, or roofs to make your sleep lively and dynamic. You can moreso try being fowl because you being human for so long. That's my suggestion since after listening the explanation that different how scriptural passages (and sermons) are read each day which covers the entire scripture more than any church in the world, you still love to deceive yourself with that ritualistic comment. That's why I wanna help to remind about life and other acts of life that is more ritualistic than what you wanna deceive yourself with.

Can you just learn?

Are you really understanding at all.. you need the spirit of understanding

Are you implying that because Jesus died on the cross 2000 years ago and forgiven us, our sins, you don't need to ask for forgiveness when you sin in 2025. Is it your today's sin that he forgave 2000 years. I will tell you. His death on the cross makes it possible to be in friendship with God and be in salvation, if we keep his word, and repent of and sins daily. Repentance is stopping what God does not like and asking to be forgiven. This as the priest noted is done at the mass, so that we can present ourselves to God; holy and acceptable to him. Please note again that repentance can be daily, forgiveness too can daily when asked

But Christ told his apostles "who's sin you forgive, its forgiven. John 20:20-25. That was after Jesus has resurrected. So which sin again is Jesus refering to since he just resurrected and has taken away all our sins.

Go and ask your daddy GO. If Ephesians 6:18 Will ask us to pray for one another at all times. Nwanne, if you rent, buy, built anything why do you call prayer warriors to then pray for what you have achieved? Again what did Mathew 16:18-19 says?

@@VictorAdindu-11 Jesus Christ is the forgiveness of Sin. Go read Acts 13:38 Bro humble urself if you are to receive revelation knowledge stop acting ignorantly on the internet

@@micnany if you read ur bible well u will know the meaning of Repent. So Damina is right that Catholics don’t read the Bible the way they should if not u will understand what the Bible teaches.

Yes, prayer to Mary is in the bible and asking her to pray for us sinners is also biblical. We don't worship her, we honour her for the role she played in salvation and for being the mother of Jesus( God)

But the suit, abi na coat your pastor wears is not in the bible also. In fact, the vestments the priest wears can be found in the bible and is also related to what was worn in the bible days.

The question is what is worship? Do Yoruba worship when they decide oriki for their kings ? To be deep in history is to cease to be protestant. Do your research

What do know about anthichrist or you just write out of sentiment.

@uchechukwu6103 sentiment? Never. For anyone who denied the presence of Christ in the blessed sacrament and called the consecrated bread at the alter s***it thing is an antichrist

Peace be with you,Father

Ignorant is disgracing you in public Oga

Please don't call them charlatans. They are still our brothers and sisters. We love them, and I believe that they love us too.

Leave Dr Damina out of this. Are you not enjoying this debate? It's good to know all of this, so that you will know how to defend your fate when you are asked. If you are not seeing it from the position of knowledge and ability to learn, but you see it from someone attacking your faith, then you are missing it. This is good, to be candid.

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May the truth of God's word resonate in your heart, so that veils would fall off and you begin to see, and come to the knowledge of the truth: 2 Timothy 3:7,James 1:21-25 KJV