Secret meanings in Cruise Ship names. How Cruise Ship names are chosen & what they mean!

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @EmmaCruises
    @EmmaCruises 4 года назад +8

    I hope you picked up that brochure!!! 😂😂😂

  • @JulieWallis1963
    @JulieWallis1963 4 года назад +7

    I love finding things I didn’t know that I didn’t know. 😍

  • @walterjrobinson
    @walterjrobinson 4 года назад +7

    Thanks ... good history and video.

  • @denizalgazi
    @denizalgazi 4 года назад +7

    Don't forget the ship name trolling that goes on between Carnival Corporation and Disney Cruise Line! Fantasy, Dream, Magic, and the now cancelled/shelved DCL ocean liner (build #8) which was to compete with the Queen Mary 2 crossings, the Queen Elsa!

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 4 года назад

      Please tell me you're trolling.

    • @denizalgazi
      @denizalgazi 4 года назад

      @@TheMrPeteChannel LOL Carnival Dream, Disney Dream; Carnival Fantasy, Disney Fantasy; Carnival Magic, Disney Magic! Ocean liners: Cunard Queen Elizabeth 2/Disney Queen Elsa…

  • @jolene54
    @jolene54 4 года назад +2

    Another interesting video Chris. A lot of great info compacted in to 10 minutes.
    As aside note to you , I really liked your shirt. Very classy, and you wear it well.

  • @jamesbarber6266
    @jamesbarber6266 4 года назад +12

    Great Stuff Chris! I'm a big Queen Mary 2 fan and I'm so excited to find out what Cunard will name their new ship! Any ideas? Not too sure about Queen Anne.

    • @BGCW_86
      @BGCW_86 4 года назад +2

      I agree James, I don’t know if they can continue the ‘Queen’ prefix at this time in history 👀 I think they may venture into a previous name or whole new genre of names altogether. Love these videos, so informative! Thanks Chris! 👏🏻

    • @Philippa-
      @Philippa- 4 года назад +6

      I like the name Queen Anne

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 4 года назад +3

      @@BGCW_86 How about the Freddie Mercury! The greatest Queen of them all!

    • @robertklein1497
      @robertklein1497 4 года назад

      Interesting idea. Queen Anne is indeed not a name that will be very logical as she is not that well known. And the - ia ending is now so well established by P&O for at least the general public that it also seems illogical. Maybe a King?

    • @alanwalton1260
      @alanwalton1260 4 года назад

      @@TheMrPeteChannel LOL SS LIBERACE

  • @samanli-tw3id
    @samanli-tw3id 4 года назад +2

    I’m fed up with ship names that end with “of the Seas”.

  • @Daniel_Huffman
    @Daniel_Huffman 4 года назад +3

    I'm able to differentiate the three _Britannics_ by remembering that all three had different prefixes: The SS _Britannic,_ the HMHS _Britannic, and the MV _Britannic._
    It's interesting to note that even though the prestigious RMS _Oceanic_ was lost in calm, friendly waters barely a month into her service as the armed merchant cruiser HMS _Oceanic_ due to the _incompetence_ of her own crew was still not enough to kill the name, given that the WSL had plans to build one of my favorite designs, the RMMV _Oceanic._ Perhaps this was because the first RMS _Oceanic_ was also the first ship built for the company after Thomas Ismay saved it from bankruptcy?
    It's also interesting to note that even after the second SS _Arabic_ was sunk by the U-24 in nine minutes with 44 dead in an event which sparked outrage among the press, the White Star Line _still_ named another ship _Arabic!_ Though...now that I think about it, it could be because the third _Arabic_ began her life as the SS _Berlin,_ and the WSL wanted to rub it in the faces of Germans...huh.
    But then there's the second SS _Laurentic._ Her namesake had struck not one, but _two_ mines off the coast of Ireland with 354 lives lost, mostly due to the cold weather, their frozen hands still clinging to their oars by the time their surviving companions reached land. Unlike many ships whose namesakes sank, the second _Laurentic_ was also lost when she was torpedoed and sunk by the _U-99_ on November 3, 1940.
    But I find it...annoying that most modern companies would put their name in the names of their ships, rather than being creative.
    If I owned a shipping company, I'd name my ships after the elements of the periodic table. They would have a dark cyan keel, a white hull and superstructure with a gold band separating the two, and the funnels would resemble those of the Blue Funnel Line, except the the blue and the black would be separated by a white band, and instead of blue, have cyan.
    What about you? If anyone in the comments has ideas on naming conventions and liveries for their hypothetical shipping lines, leave them below!

    • @Kapitan_Creeper
      @Kapitan_Creeper Год назад +2

      Interesting naming method! My fictional company is called Hanseatic Line (Hamburg-Transatlantic Line until 1972) and I'm not really sure how to name my ships, i was thinking about random German things (such as cities and rivers) or harbor cities that were members of the hanseatic trading community, but also maybe Greek gods or something. Would be glad if you could suggest ideas for naming methods!

    • @Daniel_Huffman
      @Daniel_Huffman Год назад

      @@Kapitan_Creeper Among the (Fictional) ships that I illustrate, I am working on ones named after the moons of the Solar System. Those ones typically get their names from Greek mythology, and in real life, the Blue Funnel Line used figures from Greek mythology _and_ history to name their ships. As such, your naming convention, while not unprecedented, is one that will surely make for fun names. I mean, come on, because the _Titanic_ herself was named after the Greek Titans, it makes for a cool double meaning in her name.

  • @alexanderlucas4624
    @alexanderlucas4624 4 года назад +1

    Great research and presentation Chris. Keep up the great work.

  • @EmmaCruises
    @EmmaCruises 4 года назад +4

    I thought they called it dam because like oh dammmmm that’s a good looking ship 😉

    • @ChrisFrameOfficial
      @ChrisFrameOfficial  4 года назад +4

      You could get a spot at the Comedy Festival with these one liners haha

    • @JulieWallis1963
      @JulieWallis1963 4 года назад +3

      Emma Cruises hey lovely, how nice to see you here 🥰

    • @xr7212
      @xr7212 4 года назад +2

      Not as pretty as QM2!

    • @EmmaCruises
      @EmmaCruises 4 года назад +1

      @@JulieWallis1963 Hey Julie!! :D

  • @thecookie2103
    @thecookie2103 4 года назад +3

    Don't take this as fact but, did the Queen of England name the iconic QE2 after herself when she was meant to call it Queen Elizabeth?

    • @kenclarke4570
      @kenclarke4570 4 года назад

      Yes, but she's the Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland not the Queen of England

  • @XmalD73
    @XmalD73 4 года назад +2

    Another great video! These are so insightful with such great detail. I'm an ocean liner buff of close to 40 years, discovering the Titanic in 1983 and it was all about ships since then. As many others, I'm very curious about the new Cunard cruise ship. Personally I still anticipate a "Queen" - whether it be Anne or Alexandra. But a classic name such as Aquitania could be possible, Holland America gives their ships names Americans might find difficult to pronounce (Zuiderdam, Koningsdam), so I guess Cunard can too. We will see!

  • @andrewbrendan1579
    @andrewbrendan1579 4 года назад

    Thanks for this information, Chris! I hadn't been aware of why liners were given names and there have been some great names for liners. A few of my favorite liner names are Aquitania, Laurentic, Romanza and Queen Mary; they have a certain ring to them.---I've read that after the 1959 Rotterdam was turned into a stationary hotel and a new liner was given the same name that it was a break with tradition, that in Holland a ship's name is not used for another vessel while a previous one has that name.. Maybe because the 1959 vessel had been called Rembrandt after being Rotterdam then went back to her first name?---I find it interesting that there has never been a real-life liner called Queen Anne---which sounds great--- but the name has been used in fiction: In one of the Fred Astaire-Ginger Rogers movies, Ginger Rogers says something like "Thank heavens I'm sailing tomorrow on the Queen Anne" then there a view of the Queen Mary. Much of the novel "The Memory of Eva Ryker" takes place aboard the Titanic in 1912 but the TV dramatization has the shipboard part of the story moved up to 1939 aboard a liner called the Queen Anne.---This information may now be lost in time but I would be very interested to know how the name Claridon came to be used for the ocean liner in the movie "The Last Voyage'. Originally the name was to be Olympus but the real-life Greek Line which had the Olympia put a stop to that so Claridon, the name of a town in Ohio here in the U.S. was selected. I've read there's also a town in Derbyshire, England, called Claridon. Though not the first choice I think Claridon is just the right "stage name" for the real Ile de France.

  • @PaulThomasHarris
    @PaulThomasHarris 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the knowledge.

  • @dinablok
    @dinablok 4 года назад +1

    Hi Chris
    My self ex crew member of Holland America line and have worked on all of their ships but gave it away in 1975 so 45 years ago.
    My first ever ship was Nieuw Amsterdam of 1939 then 1959 ssRotterdam Ryndam Statendam Maasdam all HAL ships name ends with DAM as in Rotterdam named after former head office and port of registry the city of Rotterdam -- Nieuw Amsterdam named as such for when Peter Stuyvesant discovered what is now New York it was called Nieuw Amsterdam so several ships of HAL have carried that name as in keeping the tradition of sailing to and from New York in the heydays of Atlantic crossing.
    Ryndam named after river Rhine which runs through Holland but written as RYN the old fashion way
    Statendam named after the provinces (States) of the Netherlands
    Maasdam named after the river Maas which runs through the city of Rotterdam on which the former head office of HAL were situated and the overseas shipping terminal of Wilhelminakade (Wilhelmina quay) named after former Monarch of the Netherlands Queen Wilhelmina

  • @markeaston7353
    @markeaston7353 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Chris, great video. I've always wondered how the naming conventions worked.
    Perhaps in time you might consider doing a video on trends in propulsions systems for cruise ships, such as the increasing trend moving towards LNG. Just a thought!

  • @xr7212
    @xr7212 4 года назад +1

    Really enjoying the videos 👍

  • @Cameron381
    @Cameron381 4 года назад +1

    No one :
    Not even Steve :
    Cruise Lines : Coronia
    Me : Unlucky naming
    Time travellers : Your mortal brains dont withstand the concept of time travel

  • @KelleysQuiltsandCruises
    @KelleysQuiltsandCruises 4 года назад +1

    The original famous Queen Mary almost was not named that. The Cunard tradition of names ending in “ia” ( Lusitania for example) meant that the Cunard people wanted to call her Victoria. However using a monarch’s name requires permission from the current monarch. When the Cunard people approached King George V, they asked him if they could name the ship after “England’s greatest Queen”. His Majesty’s reply? “ Thank you. my wife will be delighted!”

  • @brianstuart1867
    @brianstuart1867 4 года назад

    Fascinating video, Chris, many thanks. Although Royal Caribbean (a relative newcomer at just over 50 years in business ) has no tradition of reusing names, the recent scrapping of Sovereign gives them an excellent oportunity to begin such a tradition. Sovereign of the Seas (1988) was the first of the so-called mega-ships, and the first to be given the " Of The Seas" suffix. As a result, the name is venerated in Royal Caribbean lore, and I for one would love to see it resurrected on the flagship of a new class perhaps later this decade.

  • @julieserna-hendricks
    @julieserna-hendricks 4 года назад +1

    Great information. Thanks.

  • @JuanGarcia-vb3du
    @JuanGarcia-vb3du 4 года назад +3

    Be nice if Cunard would name future ships after Aquitania, Olympic and Mauretania.

  • @GardeningLadybug
    @GardeningLadybug 4 года назад +2

    This was great

  • @EmmaCruises
    @EmmaCruises 4 года назад +4

    Traditional, familiarity and LAZY 😉

  • @christopherrose7321
    @christopherrose7321 4 года назад

    Hi Chris
    Do you have anh yhlughts on the namkng of the new Cunard Liner?
    Presumably it will at least be a Queen!
    Chris Rose

    • @Philippa-
      @Philippa- 4 года назад

      Queen Anne is doing the rounds as a possibility.

    • @fiberrabit8229
      @fiberrabit8229 4 года назад

      Ughhh queen ann is boring as heck, why not name it aquitania or something that isnt boring

  • @robertklein1497
    @robertklein1497 4 года назад +2

    Fun story about the name Queen Elizabeth 2 from Cunard is that the company intended to name her Queen Elizabeth, after the first ship, not the reigning Queen. When the Queen was asked to christen the ship, a note was handed to her with the name of the new ship (Queen Elizabeth) written on it. But when she smashed the bottle at the bow at the day of the ceremony, she herself used the phrase 'I name this ship Queen Elizabeth.... the second'. Never intended by Cunard, they could of course not ignore her and thus the new ship was named Queen Elizabeth 2. In the name, they did choose not to use the royal way of script as 'II' but instead used the numeral '2' to indicate the ship wasn't named after the Queen, but after their earlier first ship. This thus without dishonouring the Queen herself. It wasnt strange that their 2010-build ship was thus again named just Queen Elizabeth instead of the more logical Queen Elizabeth 3 as those numerals were never intended in the first place.
    Queen Mary 2 recieved the numeral '2' only because at the time of her launch, another ship named Queen Mary was already under the British flag. This was a former 1933 build two-funneled Clyde river steamer and she was moored in the center of London at the Embankment under Waterloo Bridge. As it is not possible to have two ships with the same name under the same flag, the Cunard ship from 2004 needed to have a '2' behind her name.

    • @kenclarke4570
      @kenclarke4570 4 года назад +1

      Queen Elizabeth II named the QE2 after herself which did surprise Cunard as they dared not ask nor expect the honour (merchant ships are traditionally not named after a monarch). Cunard stated that they would use the arabic 2 to differentiate the ship from the monarch. It was generally accepted at the time that QE2 was named after the Queen, it was only much later that commentators and even Cunard for a time gave credence to the suggestion that it was just the second ship called QE. The ship was named Queen Elizabeth the Second - it's there on video for all to see - not Queen Elizabeth Two!
      My source? I was a sixth former at the time of her launch and played truant for the afternoon to watch it live on TV. The papers, TV news reports and interviews with Sir Basil Smallpeice (Cunard Chairman) all acknowledged that the third Cunard Queen had been named after the monarch just as her predecessors had been named after her mother and Grandmother.

  • @DG-jq7il
    @DG-jq7il 4 года назад

    The Cunard Line has not recycled the names of the Queens Mary and Elizabeth. The QE2 is not named after RMS Queen Elizabeth, the RMS QE was named after the Queen Elizabeth, the Consort of George VI, while the QE2 was named after Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second, by Her Majesty herself. RMS Queen Mary was named after Queen Mary of Teck, Consort of King George V, and yes QM2 is also named after Queen Mary of Teck, but not after RMS Queen Mary, because technically she still exists under that name in Long Beach CA. Now the MV Queen Elizabeth was named after the RMS Queen Elizabeth, but not her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.

    • @ChrisFrameOfficial
      @ChrisFrameOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Hi there. Thanks for the comment. QE2 is an interesting story, as her name has many contributing factors.
      After much debate, Cunard had settled on the name “Queen Elizabeth” for QE2 before the launch of the ship. It was considered that it would allow for a sense of continuity between the old Cunard Queens and the modern, space-aged ‘No. 736’ - and RMS. Queen Elizabeth would have been withdrawn from service by the time the new ship entered service. Other names that were considered by Cunard included Princess Margaret and Princess Anne while the betting shops took bets on Winston Churchill, British Queen and even JFK as the launch date approached!
      You’re right that HM. did name QE2 “Queen Elizabeth the Second” - however the ship was never known by that name at any point during her Cunard career - as very soon after the launch “Queen Elizabeth 2” was settled on for the name of the ship after the Queen approved the use of the Arabic 2 rather than the II styling.
      You can read more here: bit.ly/3buxOQ6 from the noted Cunard historian Michael Gallagher.
      Queen Mary 2 is named after RMS Queen Mary, which as you point out is named for HM. Queen Mary (of Teck) the Queen Consort of King George V. The fact that the retired RMS Queen Mary was still referred to as Queen Mary didn’t make any difference to Cunard’s decision relating to QM2 as the original ship was no longer an active ship, and had since been reclassified and de-registered during her conversion into a hotel.
      There was - however - a small steamship called Queen Mary. She was launched in 1933 as TS. Queen Mary but was renamed TS. Queen Mary II when RMS. Queen Mary was launched. She reverted back to TS. Queen Mary in the 1970s after RMS. Queen Mary retired. QM2 was therefore possible because there wasn’t already a Queen Mary 2 in service.

  • @rosethefirechieftess1683
    @rosethefirechieftess1683 2 года назад

    Suprized no cruise ship has been named something funny or ridiculous like Boaty McBoatFace

  • @AcerDyan
    @AcerDyan 4 года назад +2

    9:01 I thought Oriana was launched in 1995

    • @ChrisFrameOfficial
      @ChrisFrameOfficial  4 года назад +3

      Launched / floated out in 1994 and entered service in 1995 👍

    • @AcerDyan
      @AcerDyan 4 года назад +2

      Chris Frame Ahhhhh, that makes sense haha 😂

    • @ChrisFrameOfficial
      @ChrisFrameOfficial  4 года назад +1

      I usually think of her as Oriana of 1995 too, as I tend to identify ships by their maiden voyage date, but most written documents use the launch date... some do use the maiden voyage date just to add to the confusion lol

  • @cruises_only_thanks
    @cruises_only_thanks 11 месяцев назад

    Who knew!

  • @gauravbarge
    @gauravbarge 4 года назад +1

    First comment here