Alesis M1A Monitor One? Great video man! I just tried taking apart my old PA and soldered it to an XLR connector, it works! Sounds good too. I'm going to find a used 10x10" tom and literally cut it in half and I'll have the dimensions of a Yamaha Subkick, and make 2 since I have 2 PA speakers! Going to make a video on it over the next couple week on my process!
subkicks are nice.. im a drummer primarily. But with my own studio. I use some lay around Large diaphragm condenser.. a cheap one!... and then I use a couple of plugins and get my self a nice subkick sound. Or when I get tracks from a client and there is no subkick, I will just take the kick in and using a few plugins and eq I make my self a subkick.. its easy.. and it works. so bottom line: never got around to build my self a subkick ;-)
I use a 8" spkr from an old sony sub I got for $5. I plug it into a DI and smash it with a comp. and have it mounted with an old snare stand. Once I started using it, I've missed it every time it wasn't around. Also really cool sitting on the floor under a floor tom! Also... plug it into fuzz boxes and other guitar FX!
I've done this with 8 , 10 , and 12" speakers. Only thing you need to worry about is if the speaker doesn't catch down to at least 45Hz (but a lot do). I don't even solder mine. I use spade connectors with no problem.
This is so innovative! I have a question, how can the speaker be relatively flat when forward driven (used as a speaker), but have resonances in the impulse response when driven backwards (used as a microphone)?
Not a clue there. Thats above my pay grade. I did testing and it surprised me. It could be something with this particular cabinet, its venting, its damping, or lack there of.... not sure.
that is because the box takes care of all the resonances. That's why we put the speaker in boxes. They act as a helmholtz resonator and obviously there's more acoustic science to it but that's the basics of building good studio monitors.
That enclosure had some really weird fundamental. So i tested it out and it sounded way better. That’s not a blanket statement for all speakers. But it was for this one.
thats an interesting thought. My initial thought is no because most DIs are for Low Z inputs... but a speaker may be considered low Z .... Not sure. Of course you'd need the correct connector on the end. But Try it out and see if it works.
The magnet was bigger than I thought it would be. Is it better to use a smaller battery vs thicker? Edit: my earbuds picked up some decent low end the 2nd time around.
I'm not totally sure... I've experimented with speaker size... I know anything above 10 just doesn't yield as cool of a result. But I think within that smaller speaker size is has more to do with speaker tuning maybe? Each speaker I've tried has a different fundamental I just keep checking until I find the one that has the fundamental I tend to like the Round about 60 hz.... From that point its which one has the strongest fundamental in relation to other frequencies.. And I have no idea why... but the Gaff tape seemingly thrown together on that mic stand holding up the speaker has sounded better than putting that same speaker in multiple different enclosures.
Recording Studio Loser thanks so much for the response. I totally understand what you mean about each speaker having a different fundamental. Also lots of speakers are made out of different material which will effect how easy it’s coil is activated, how long, etc... I just thought I’d look at FB messenger for a 6” or 8” speaker and give it it a go. Cheers and thanks again.
Not sure I agree with less money and hassle. I talk about using things you already have. Getting it right at the source means touch sensitivity is always accurate where a sub instrument would necessarily respond the same as the player. And you can get it at the source rather than fiddle with midi which can be convenient...but rarely perfect.
1Million points to the first person who correctly names the model of monitor!
Alesis M1A Monitor One? Great video man! I just tried taking apart my old PA and soldered it to an XLR connector, it works! Sounds good too. I'm going to find a used 10x10" tom and literally cut it in half and I'll have the dimensions of a Yamaha Subkick, and make 2 since I have 2 PA speakers! Going to make a video on it over the next couple week on my process!
Alesis M1 Active Mk2. Points please :)
Darude Sandstorm
The even smarter trick is to leave the speaker in whatever box it's already in. I made mine out of a home stereo sub.
subkicks are nice.. im a drummer primarily. But with my own studio. I use some lay around Large diaphragm condenser.. a cheap one!... and then I use a couple of plugins and get my self a nice subkick sound.
Or when I get tracks from a client and there is no subkick, I will just take the kick in and using a few plugins and eq I make my self a subkick.. its easy.. and it works.
so bottom line: never got around to build my self a subkick ;-)
I use a 8" spkr from an old sony sub I got for $5. I plug it into a DI and smash it with a comp. and have it mounted with an old snare stand. Once I started using it, I've missed it every time it wasn't around. Also really cool sitting on the floor under a floor tom! Also... plug it into fuzz boxes and other guitar FX!
I use a janky, old Fender Alnico 12" in a gutted movie projector cab with a DI/ -20db pad engaged. Works great!
Thats awesome!
🤯 just built this! 12” speaker (cause I had one) with a -30db... so much bass!
I've done this with 8 , 10 , and 12" speakers. Only thing you need to worry about is if the speaker doesn't catch down to at least 45Hz (but a lot do). I don't even solder mine. I use spade connectors with no problem.
This is so innovative! I have a question, how can the speaker be relatively flat when forward driven (used as a speaker), but have resonances in the impulse response when driven backwards (used as a microphone)?
Not a clue there. Thats above my pay grade. I did testing and it surprised me. It could be something with this particular cabinet, its venting, its damping, or lack there of.... not sure.
@@RecordingStudioLoser Interesting! Gotta research more on this
that is because the box takes care of all the resonances. That's why we put the speaker in boxes. They act as a helmholtz resonator and obviously there's more acoustic science to it but that's the basics of building good studio monitors.
@@manuelninogarces9574 Thanks!
this video is perfect for my needs, absolutely awesome, thanks so much
You're very welcome!
always just used a ns 10 in the cabinet and ran it into a di box.
Why not leave in the box?
I have a Marshall open back practice combo with a 10 inch speaker, the amp blew so now it’s a sub kick. Boom 💥
That enclosure had some really weird fundamental. So i tested it out and it sounded way better. That’s not a blanket statement for all speakers. But it was for this one.
@@RecordingStudioLoser Hmmm Might have to A/B mine in/out too
Great channel btw, came here from
Creative Sound Lab
Thanks!
Awesome vid!! Stoked I found your channel!
Me too!
Awesome video, man! This was super insightful.
could i use m DI to add the pad to the signal chain no phantom obviously
thats an interesting thought. My initial thought is no because most DIs are for Low Z inputs... but a speaker may be considered low Z .... Not sure. Of course you'd need the correct connector on the end. But Try it out and see if it works.
Hi ! Could You please tell me what is that small thing that you connected After the first record. ( 8:43 )
Sure. It’s an inline pad. To knock down the super hot signal coming from the speaker, to keep it from clipping the preamp.
The magnet was bigger than I thought it would be. Is it better to use a smaller battery vs thicker?
Edit: my earbuds picked up some decent low end the 2nd time around.
New sub here, also a fellow RUclipsr :) anyway, what size speaker is the best, an 8”? 6”?
I'm not totally sure... I've experimented with speaker size... I know anything above 10 just doesn't yield as cool of a result. But I think within that smaller speaker size is has more to do with speaker tuning maybe? Each speaker I've tried has a different fundamental I just keep checking until I find the one that has the fundamental I tend to like the Round about 60 hz.... From that point its which one has the strongest fundamental in relation to other frequencies.. And I have no idea why... but the Gaff tape seemingly thrown together on that mic stand holding up the speaker has sounded better than putting that same speaker in multiple different enclosures.
Recording Studio Loser thanks so much for the response. I totally understand what you mean about each speaker having a different fundamental. Also lots of speakers are made out of different material which will effect how easy it’s coil is activated, how long, etc... I just thought I’d look at FB messenger for a 6” or 8” speaker and give it it a go. Cheers and thanks again.
So, if it's more of a synth than a mic, why not duplicate your bass drum as a midi track and use a bass synth? Less money, time, and hassle.
Not sure I agree with less money and hassle.
I talk about using things you already have. Getting it right at the source means touch sensitivity is always accurate where a sub instrument would necessarily respond the same as the player. And you can get it at the source rather than fiddle with midi which can be convenient...but rarely perfect.
@@RecordingStudioLoser Good insight, thanks! :)
Thumbs up everyone listening on a phone fully expecting to hear nothing because it's SUB!!
Someone out there is so confused... for sure.
You should have said SUBscribe... (sorry for that) Love your videos!
Missed opportunity....