It’s so sad how these kinds of high level, super sophisticated discussions aren’t as popular, hopefully more people will tap in So many could benefit from hearing this
Look around you. Du you think that most people are high level and super sophisticated? Even well educated are very ignorant regarding a great many things, although of course they think highly of themselves. 😉 Yes, this is a very interesting topic. What will probably concern most people is the economy and the question is when does it all start to decline so fast that we all realise that we will live the rest of our lives in a depression?
In the 1960's they promised us the leisure society. The fact that it never materialized is probably the reason behind the below replacement level fertility rates throughout most of the developed world. Decision makers back then feared the advent of such a society. What they didn't realize was that it was actually a prerequisite for the long-term survival of humanity in a fully urbanized and industrialized environment.
On top of a heap of rubble? You know when Japan, SK, China and Europe all disappear the rest of the world is also pretty much fkd. BTW, countries like India, Thailand and Brazil are below replacement level. Some way below... Good luck!
Kazakhstan seems to have hacked the paradigm where female education leads to low fertility. It seems even with women being educated in Kazakhstan, they still view having children as a priority and important to their personal status (not just their career). In a century, Kazakhstan will easily have 45 million people, if not almost 70 million, this would make it almost on par with the population of Russia by then (75 million).
EDIT: Nevermind, he already addressed it. Will just let the comment be. It doesn't have to be a single story kind of. For North Korea, it's one story, for the West it's a different story, and so on. One common thread is a loss of all stories. The athiests had some stories in the last century, but after the collapse of their huge projects, in spectacular fashion, there was no good story to be told. For the West too, alot of narratives just died due to the internet shining a light on the truly broken systemic issues that plague everything. Without a narrative driving us towards the future, there's really very little reason to sustain life. There's also a very weird consumption of relationships by the spectre of capitalism I think. Lots of different narratives.
I love the grounded reality of this channel!!! Retirement took a toll on my finances, but with my involvement in the digital market.$37k weekly has been life changing. Regardless of how bad it gets on the economy.
Giving her my initial savings of $6,500 to invest in a brokerage account was a turning point in my life less 7days. It's been an incredibly rewarding experience.
Wow this awesome 👏 I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, my job hasn’t been helpful for me and my family. How can I reach her directly?
Why does a person need to be "debunked", who quit X after Musk's acquisition, arguing that he can no longer do his job if his feed isn't curated by Silicon Valley DEI hires?
That should be common sense honestly also it seems more urban areas have had a historical Lower birth rate compared to rural areas so if you want a decreasing birthrates atheist/urban society like most modern first world nations have become but a religious/ rural areas have higher birthrates seem to be the pattern
Please consider “limits to growth” and “decline and fall” first world nations, have a large energy per capita consumption and as oil has become more expensive now that we have to use shale and tar sands instead of sweet oil , our energy consumption per capita is going down. Fertility declines as per capita energy consumption declines, which is happening more in rich countries.
I haven't watched the whole video as it just came out, but I imagine large scale automation and longevity focused biotech are going to be massive sources of investment later this century. I think China might do well in these areas tbh
I thought the reason for the fertility crisis was pretty well understood? Increased cost of childcare along with lack of a need for more labor on the farm and voila: having children is a luxury rather than a staple of family life. A la Peter Zeihan
LMFAO! In Canada Indians, Chinese, and Middle Easterners, etc are buying homes, having kids, etc while the native population talks themselves into self-destruction. Literally tatted up, having segz like animals, overdosing, etc and talking like there is a logical reason for their crashing out. Literally don't even see them in the work place but, I am sure they have some obnoxious soothing lie for that too
Not at all. Many surveys of young women around the world reveal the #1 reason they aren't having babies, because they don't want to. I'm not being funny, 57% say that, it's crazy. They just don't want them. And when you look at the incentives, where governments try to bribe young couples (tax breaks, free college education for their future children, free money, etc.) they never work. If money were the issue, they would work. Also, I've seen many videos where young women were asked follow up questions, like in Japan, so if you were paid $100,000 to have a baby and raise it, would you? And the girls giggle, look around uncomfortably, and say, No F Way. Not even for $500,000. The thing is, they don't want them anymore, they want to live life, travel, have fun, have careers, be mobile, be free.
Peter Zeihan is very loose with facts and interpretation. He says some interesting stuff but dilutes it so much with flights of fancy, but that's why his content is entertaining and appeals to a mass audience.
@@默-c1r I agree, but I haven't heard a better explanation of the phenomenon. It passes the sniff test for me because it addresses both incentives and disincentives,, so regardless of the source it seems a valid argument. Do you have another point of view?
@@Twisty112289 I tend to agree with Samo here, I think the best we can say is we don't know because every theory seems to have a counterexample. Women all around the world want fewer children and it can't be tied to religiosity, economic development, or feminism. I also think the cost idea doesn't hold up since an average Dutch woman who would get free schooling, healthcare, and daycare for her kid is still not extra prone to fertility, and an American woman who has to pay a ludicrous sum for her kid's daycare and college isn't less likely to have a child than the Dutch woman. Very puzzling stuff but I think we just don't know as uncomfortable as that is.
Current population collapse is fatal, because its root cause is none other than the civilization advancement itself, if civilization cannot retrack, there is no pathway for birth rate recovery. Civilization is a very strange fella, it can produce people, who are self nihilism, these people think the planet earth will be better off without human, including themselves. This can only be the phenomenon of a high civilization, since animals or lesser educated civil people will be incapable of self hatred because it is unnatural and completely against the evolution principle. In other words, self hatred cannot exist naturally, it must be a post civilization phenomenon. Of course the population who have this self nihilism tendency is very small, but they are among the most highly educated group. The fact that they exist, the fact that they are the product of our high education system is very concerning, especially in an era of nuclear power. But they are not the real cause of human extinction, even after the catastrophic nuclear event which destroys the entire world, human who survived will rebuild fast as long as human still has the desire and capability of reproducing. Other than a moon size planet hit the earth, the only thing can destroy human civilization completely and cause human extinction is human stop reproducing, the only thing can stop us from reproducing is the civilization advancement. When civilization was at its lowest, human was 100% animal instinct driven, we followed what our gene programmed us without asking why, just like all other animals. Our gene told us to reproduce as much as possible by implanting us with all kinds of sexual instincts, so our gene can avoid the extinction and move up the evolution ladder quickly. Once we became little bit more civilized, our consciousness took over the animal instincts, then we followed the mythical culture and religion to reproduce as much as possible without asking why. Modern civilization completely lifted human out of the animal realm, we are no longer animals except our legacy body. It is a slow discovery and realization that our civilization is incompatible with our reproduction mechanism rooted from our animal heritage. If we are aliens and never exposed to the earthling reproduction mechanism, we would think the pregnancy is torture, giving birth is barbaric, and binding human reproduction with human life cycle is cruel and artificial. Of course, we do not think like aliens, not there yet, but our youngsters, our most progressive young mind which represents our future, are moving quickly to that same mindset through our civilization advancement in biology, health, and morality. Civilization, by definition, is bias towards rationale over natural instinct, Today our basic instinct of wanting children is effectively neutralized by the civilized rational concerns of the physical cost, emotional cost, social cost, and economic cost of having children. The result of this transformation is that having children becomes a project, requires planning and cost benefit analysis, the problem is that as the civilization advances, the individual life become safer, easier, richer, freer, and more secure, the perceived cost of reproduction can only goes up and the benefit of having children can only goes down. As the civilization advances, the old people will be taken cared of by the society through the work of the economy or the social safety net, the fear of a feeble elder life without children is removed. AI is probably the most convincing evidence that civilization will be the root cause of total collapse of human reproduction. With the emerging Intelligent service robots the benefit of children will be completely removed, from emotional support to physical support, cross all spectrum. To each individual human, especially women, the reproduction becomes all costs with no or minimal benefit. With advancement of civilization, human population is not just collapsing but doomed. Maybe at some point in future, we may have no choice but to accept the concept of human manufacturing through technology with quality control and auditing, all under legal provisions and governances, so that human reproduction and human civilization can finally be compatible again.
Still wondering why 2 countries level war => push for higher fertility civil war => push for less fertility on the other group what makes country level group special?
I think the baby boom can be explained because many excess men died in WWII. Then it is easy for the survivor to find a wife and form a family; the opposite is today, where the dating market is hypercompetitive.
Based camp did a episode on it. A combination of the economy getting better after the great depression and huge technological advances, creating great hope and optimism for the future
The one variable that seems the most widely present in societies with below replacement level birth rates is women in the workforce, especially mothers.
It is happening in Latin America and that is why I think the southern border will be more manageable in the future, fertility in Mexico and in Central America are falling.
Turkey is a time bomb, the Kurdish area has a fertility of 3 and the Turkish area has a below replacement fertility, I can see the Kurds forming a Guerrilla trying to live in Turkey and even succeeding.
Sound Money (Bitcoin) could fix this. Buying power and therefore planneble timelines will raise peoples confidence in investing in their childrens future
We are not going to disappear any time soon. Certain parties are concerned about the decrease in numbers for cannon fodder (for continuous wars) and workers ( for continuous wage slavery). 😂😂
We are nowhere near 8 billion. Every single country population projection where there are reliable census has disproved the UN census. Brazil alone is of by 15 million in UNs projection where they say we are 220 million when we are actually somewhere around 205 million. And I can give you dozens of other examples.
@@Ravenelvenlady honestly if their aren't enough workers that could collapse the current system and create a massive amount of starvation and conflicts making the population drop off by insane numbers
We had an extremely rapid population explosion in the 20th century. It seems perfectly normal to see a slow down. Population growth far outstripped the need for people. We have a huge number of ‘excess people’. Look at how big the underclass now is in the US never mind globally. Massive population collapse is actually very good for the standard of living of everyone left over and disproportionately for the poor and middle class. And there is source of all the hand wringing. As well as an explanation for Covid policy. The two most dangerous threats the super rich face are plague followed closely by population decline.
Linearly extrapolate current population trends for hundreds of years? Surely nothing could be wrong with that idea. A simple counter point to this whole conversation is go back 300 years and compare the quality of life of a king then to someone in the middle class now. Its believable that in another 300 years the average person will have the quality of life of a billionaire today. What if you had an autonomous robot to do all chores and parent your children? No intervention needed. Don't get me wrong we should be taking actions, and generally I support measure to make parenting easier for the middle class, but extinction is a ridiculous conclusion.
It is more likely that in 2100 all people will fall back to the living standards of an average person in Mexico in the year 1924. 🥳 IF they're lucky that is.
As far as the Manhattan Project type effort goes, that was during the beautiful demographic boom. Today, a Manhattan Project would be with demographics and the economy sliding. Probably can't happen.
Yeah! And going to Mars? Haha...forget about it. And according to the current trends half of the world's population in 2100 will be African. You can draw your own conclusions about that..
The unifying factors are archetypal in nature. The level of analysis is at collective depth psychology on a deep enough level to make cultural differences cited irrelevant. The trouble is few intellectuals, esp the lamestream rationalists, read Carl Jung.
The working class have been made poor by rising rents and real estate plus loss of manufacturing and thus union power has led to lower wages. They just can't afford kids. Don't need a phd. to figure it out.
Haha, 'Elon juicing the numbers'... Well, maybe we also need to consider what we're aiming for from a systems perspective. What is the maximum sustainable population we want for a healthy planet and animal ecosystem? Are those who want to have children able to do so? What is the minimum population needed to ensure the future of our species? After that, we could examine the reasons why people are not having children. But honestly, I feel that AI-related questions and crises will confront us more quickly than population issues will in 2024.
This is a common mistake due to using old data. Here is the 2024 data 2:21 south Korea have TFR 0,72 2:27 Japan TFR 1.2 2:59 Cities will always have a lower TFR than rural areas. Cities are heavily dependent on rural areas to maintain their population numbers. The capital of the Roman Empire (Rome) had 50% of its population immigrants.But because the TFR of the city of Rome is very small, the immigrant population cannot replace the DNA of the population of the Italian peninsula. 3:12 Come on, let's use real data, don't bring propaganda here.
I think that we will have longevity escape velocity pretty soon in the coming decades where 100 years may be come the new generation time up from 20 years and we will look like our middle aged selves at most. If there becomes a signifiant ressitance to this then biohacking could make it happen regardless for indiviguals. Also its a great opportunity to make billions for pennies per therapy. We already know much of how aging works, and soon its all about appling them. It would also mean that sexual reproduction becomes irrelevent, and ancent primitive way
require women to be married and to produce a child every 2 years until they have 2.3 kids unmarried women or women not on their way to producing 2.3 kids would be ineligible for government services and not allowed to be employed it should be like military service/selective service is required in many countries for men to retain citizenship or be allowed to work also all fertility and childcare expenses should be tax deductible (up to a certain limit e.g. the average cost to raise a child per child) do this it gets fixed over night
It’s so sad how these kinds of high level, super sophisticated discussions aren’t as popular, hopefully more people will tap in
So many could benefit from hearing this
Look around you. Du you think that most people are high level and super sophisticated?
Even well educated are very ignorant regarding a great many things, although of course they think highly of themselves. 😉
Yes, this is a very interesting topic. What will probably concern most people is the economy and the question is when does it all start to decline so fast that we all realise that we will live the rest of our lives in a depression?
In the 1960's they promised us the leisure society. The fact that it never materialized is probably the reason behind the below replacement level fertility rates throughout most of the developed world. Decision makers back then feared the advent of such a society. What they didn't realize was that it was actually a prerequisite for the long-term survival of humanity in a fully urbanized and industrialized environment.
I hope it will end ASAP. We are done.
the young of many poor countries are on social media/Tiktok FYI. They are culturally American despite the lack of local education
Do not ignore the demographics of Kazakhstan! If any nation has the opportunity to come out on top in the next 100 years it’s them
You're quite possibly right.
On top of a heap of rubble? You know when Japan, SK, China and Europe all disappear the rest of the world is also pretty much fkd.
BTW, countries like India, Thailand and Brazil are below replacement level. Some way below...
Good luck!
Kazakhstan seems to have hacked the paradigm where female education leads to low fertility. It seems even with women being educated in Kazakhstan, they still view having children as a priority and important to their personal status (not just their career). In a century, Kazakhstan will easily have 45 million people, if not almost 70 million, this would make it almost on par with the population of Russia by then (75 million).
EDIT: Nevermind, he already addressed it. Will just let the comment be.
It doesn't have to be a single story kind of. For North Korea, it's one story, for the West it's a different story, and so on. One common thread is a loss of all stories. The athiests had some stories in the last century, but after the collapse of their huge projects, in spectacular fashion, there was no good story to be told. For the West too, alot of narratives just died due to the internet shining a light on the truly broken systemic issues that plague everything. Without a narrative driving us towards the future, there's really very little reason to sustain life. There's also a very weird consumption of relationships by the spectre of capitalism I think. Lots of different narratives.
Perhaps noble lies kept things going. The information age revealed the lie. Now we have nothing at all.
I love the grounded reality of this channel!!! Retirement took a toll on my finances, but with my involvement in the digital market.$37k weekly has been life changing. Regardless of how bad it gets on the economy.
Hello please how do you make such weekly?? Please I really need assistance I feel so down of myself because of low finance.
@@marcosvg90Maria Angelina Alexander I really appreciate her efforts and transparency.
Giving her my initial savings of $6,500 to invest in a brokerage account was a turning point in my life less 7days. It's been an incredibly rewarding experience.
After I raised up to 260k trading with her l now own a House and a car here in the states. Myself and my family we are extremely happy..❤
Wow this awesome 👏 I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, my job hasn’t been helpful for me and my family. How can I reach her directly?
Please make a video where you debunk Peter Zeihan
I second this. That will be a monumental public service
Why does a person need to be "debunked", who quit X after Musk's acquisition, arguing that he can no longer do his job if his feed isn't curated by Silicon Valley DEI hires?
That would be fun.
I wonder if having an ethno/religious foundation that values family and children might not have some influence in a nation's reproductive rate.
That should be common sense honestly also it seems more urban areas have had a historical Lower birth rate compared to rural areas so if you want a decreasing birthrates atheist/urban society like most modern first world nations have become but a religious/ rural areas have higher birthrates seem to be the pattern
The problem is larping religion doesn't work. Atheists agreeing that they must believe in something is just a stranger form of nihilism.
Please consider “limits to growth” and “decline and fall” first world nations, have a large energy per capita consumption and as oil has become more expensive now that we have to use shale and tar sands instead of sweet oil , our energy consumption per capita is going down. Fertility declines as per capita energy consumption declines, which is happening more in rich countries.
Samo can you pls get Marko on for an episode?
Handmaiden tale is becoming a reality. These people are crazy; they couldn't give a sh!t about a child
These talks are leading to force birth.
I haven't watched the whole video as it just came out, but I imagine large scale automation and longevity focused biotech are going to be massive sources of investment later this century. I think China might do well in these areas tbh
I thought the reason for the fertility crisis was pretty well understood? Increased cost of childcare along with lack of a need for more labor on the farm and voila: having children is a luxury rather than a staple of family life. A la Peter Zeihan
LMFAO! In Canada Indians, Chinese, and Middle Easterners, etc are buying homes, having kids, etc while the native population talks themselves into self-destruction.
Literally tatted up, having segz like animals, overdosing, etc and talking like there is a logical reason for their crashing out.
Literally don't even see them in the work place but, I am sure they have some obnoxious soothing lie for that too
Not at all. Many surveys of young women around the world reveal the #1 reason they aren't having babies, because they don't want to. I'm not being funny, 57% say that, it's crazy. They just don't want them. And when you look at the incentives, where governments try to bribe young couples (tax breaks, free college education for their future children, free money, etc.) they never work. If money were the issue, they would work. Also, I've seen many videos where young women were asked follow up questions, like in Japan, so if you were paid $100,000 to have a baby and raise it, would you? And the girls giggle, look around uncomfortably, and say, No F Way. Not even for $500,000. The thing is, they don't want them anymore, they want to live life, travel, have fun, have careers, be mobile, be free.
Peter Zeihan is very loose with facts and interpretation. He says some interesting stuff but dilutes it so much with flights of fancy, but that's why his content is entertaining and appeals to a mass audience.
@@默-c1r I agree, but I haven't heard a better explanation of the phenomenon. It passes the sniff test for me because it addresses both incentives and disincentives,, so regardless of the source it seems a valid argument. Do you have another point of view?
@@Twisty112289 I tend to agree with Samo here, I think the best we can say is we don't know because every theory seems to have a counterexample. Women all around the world want fewer children and it can't be tied to religiosity, economic development, or feminism. I also think the cost idea doesn't hold up since an average Dutch woman who would get free schooling, healthcare, and daycare for her kid is still not extra prone to fertility, and an American woman who has to pay a ludicrous sum for her kid's daycare and college isn't less likely to have a child than the Dutch woman. Very puzzling stuff but I think we just don't know as uncomfortable as that is.
I just don’t think it’s a mystery. The fish rots from the head.
Do Erik and Samo have kids?
No way, people with kids are too busy to talk about how no one is having kids
@JoseGomez-n4k they're expounding on what a mystery it is, how NOBODY KNOWS why ppl don't want kids....idk man ask yourselves??
Current population collapse is fatal, because its root cause is none other than the civilization advancement itself, if civilization cannot retrack, there is no pathway for birth rate recovery.
Civilization is a very strange fella, it can produce people, who are self nihilism, these people think the planet earth will be better off without human, including themselves. This can only be the phenomenon of a high civilization, since animals or lesser educated civil people will be incapable of self hatred because it is unnatural and completely against the evolution principle. In other words, self hatred cannot exist naturally, it must be a post civilization phenomenon. Of course the population who have this self nihilism tendency is very small, but they are among the most highly educated group. The fact that they exist, the fact that they are the product of our high education system is very concerning, especially in an era of nuclear power.
But they are not the real cause of human extinction, even after the catastrophic nuclear event which destroys the entire world, human who survived will rebuild fast as long as human still has the desire and capability of reproducing. Other than a moon size planet hit the earth, the only thing can destroy human civilization completely and cause human extinction is human stop reproducing, the only thing can stop us from reproducing is the civilization advancement.
When civilization was at its lowest, human was 100% animal instinct driven, we followed what our gene programmed us without asking why, just like all other animals. Our gene told us to reproduce as much as possible by implanting us with all kinds of sexual instincts, so our gene can avoid the extinction and move up the evolution ladder quickly. Once we became little bit more civilized, our consciousness took over the animal instincts, then we followed the mythical culture and religion to reproduce as much as possible without asking why. Modern civilization completely lifted human out of the animal realm, we are no longer animals except our legacy body.
It is a slow discovery and realization that our civilization is incompatible with our reproduction mechanism rooted from our animal heritage. If we are aliens and never exposed to the earthling reproduction mechanism, we would think the pregnancy is torture, giving birth is barbaric, and binding human reproduction with human life cycle is cruel and artificial. Of course, we do not think like aliens, not there yet, but our youngsters, our most progressive young mind which represents our future, are moving quickly to that same mindset through our civilization advancement in biology, health, and morality.
Civilization, by definition, is bias towards rationale over natural instinct, Today our basic instinct of wanting children is effectively neutralized by the civilized rational concerns of the physical cost, emotional cost, social cost, and economic cost of having children. The result of this transformation is that having children becomes a project, requires planning and cost benefit analysis, the problem is that as the civilization advances, the individual life become safer, easier, richer, freer, and more secure, the perceived cost of reproduction can only goes up and the benefit of having children can only goes down.
As the civilization advances, the old people will be taken cared of by the society through the work of the economy or the social safety net, the fear of a feeble elder life without children is removed.
AI is probably the most convincing evidence that civilization will be the root cause of total collapse of human reproduction. With the emerging Intelligent service robots the benefit of children will be completely removed, from emotional support to physical support, cross all spectrum. To each individual human, especially women, the reproduction becomes all costs with no or minimal benefit.
With advancement of civilization, human population is not just collapsing but doomed. Maybe at some point in future, we may have no choice but to accept the concept of human manufacturing through technology with quality control and auditing, all under legal provisions and governances, so that human reproduction and human civilization can finally be compatible again.
Still wondering why
2 countries level war => push for higher fertility
civil war => push for less fertility on the other group
what makes country level group special?
There is need for child free tax greater than child costs. Problem solved in 9 months 😂😂😂
What good are humans to Mother Earth?
Brazil is having an obesity problem too.
I think the baby boom can be explained because many excess men died in WWII. Then it is easy for the survivor to find a wife and form a family; the opposite is today, where the dating market is hypercompetitive.
Except the baby boom started before the war. It just got bigger after the war
The baby boom was an evolutionary response to some 70 million people getting killed worldwide. The effect petered out in the 1970s.
Based camp did a episode on it. A combination of the economy getting better after the great depression and huge technological advances, creating great hope and optimism for the future
The one variable that seems the most widely present in societies with below replacement level birth rates is women in the workforce, especially mothers.
It is happening in Latin America and that is why I think the southern border will be more manageable in the future, fertility in Mexico and in Central America are falling.
Turkey is a time bomb, the Kurdish area has a fertility of 3 and the Turkish area has a below replacement fertility, I can see the Kurds forming a Guerrilla trying to live in Turkey and even succeeding.
Sound Money (Bitcoin) could fix this. Buying power and therefore planneble timelines will raise peoples confidence in investing in their childrens future
Estimated global population:
1000 BCE: 50 million
0 : 170 million
1800 CE : 1 Billion
1970. : 3,695,390,336
2024 CE : 8,180,335,900
We are not going to disappear any time soon. Certain parties are concerned about the decrease in numbers for cannon fodder (for continuous wars) and workers ( for continuous wage slavery). 😂😂
@@Ravenelvenlady Unwarranted plantation concerns - parasitism is fundamental to existence?
We are nowhere near 8 billion. Every single country population projection where there are reliable census has disproved the UN census. Brazil alone is of by 15 million in UNs projection where they say we are 220 million when we are actually somewhere around 205 million. And I can give you dozens of other examples.
@@Ravenelvenlady honestly if their aren't enough workers that could collapse the current system and create a massive amount of starvation and conflicts making the population drop off by insane numbers
We had an extremely rapid population explosion in the 20th century. It seems perfectly normal to see a slow down. Population growth far outstripped the need for people. We have a huge number of ‘excess people’. Look at how big the underclass now is in the US never mind globally. Massive population collapse is actually very good for the standard of living of everyone left over and disproportionately for the poor and middle class. And there is source of all the hand wringing. As well as an explanation for Covid policy. The two most dangerous threats the super rich face are plague followed closely by population decline.
Why are you deleting comments?
Linearly extrapolate current population trends for hundreds of years? Surely nothing could be wrong with that idea.
A simple counter point to this whole conversation is go back 300 years and compare the quality of life of a king then to someone in the middle class now. Its believable that in another 300 years the average person will have the quality of life of a billionaire today. What if you had an autonomous robot to do all chores and parent your children? No intervention needed.
Don't get me wrong we should be taking actions, and generally I support measure to make parenting easier for the middle class, but extinction is a ridiculous conclusion.
It is more likely that in 2100 all people will fall back to the living standards of an average person in Mexico in the year 1924. 🥳
IF they're lucky that is.
@@sweden_is_xxxx why do you say that?
As far as the Manhattan Project type effort goes, that was during the beautiful demographic boom. Today, a Manhattan Project would be with demographics and the economy sliding. Probably can't happen.
Yeah! And going to Mars? Haha...forget about it.
And according to the current trends half of the world's population in 2100 will be African. You can draw your own conclusions about that..
Screech!
The unifying factors are archetypal in nature. The level of analysis is at collective depth psychology on a deep enough level to make cultural differences cited irrelevant. The trouble is few intellectuals, esp the lamestream rationalists, read Carl Jung.
You brought on an expert that doesn't know why Israel has high fertility? Is he also baffled as to why the Armish and Mormons have high birth rates?
The working class have been made poor by rising rents and real estate plus loss of manufacturing and thus union power has led to lower wages. They just can't afford kids. Don't need a phd. to figure it out.
Haha, 'Elon juicing the numbers'... Well, maybe we also need to consider what we're aiming for from a systems perspective. What is the maximum sustainable population we want for a healthy planet and animal ecosystem? Are those who want to have children able to do so? What is the minimum population needed to ensure the future of our species? After that, we could examine the reasons why people are not having children. But honestly, I feel that AI-related questions and crises will confront us more quickly than population issues will in 2024.
This is a common mistake due to using old data. Here is the 2024 data
2:21 south Korea have TFR 0,72
2:27 Japan TFR 1.2
2:59 Cities will always have a lower TFR than rural areas. Cities are heavily dependent on rural areas to maintain their population numbers.
The capital of the Roman Empire (Rome) had 50% of its population immigrants.But because the TFR of the city of Rome is very small, the immigrant population cannot replace the DNA of the population of the Italian peninsula.
3:12 Come on, let's use real data, don't bring propaganda here.
Well that title is a bit dramatic.
Universal 25
plenty of people but no wisdom
tell me about it
My comment was deleted. Why? I just said that women don't want children now. ???
Let me guess. The people in this podcast are pro family in theory and childless in practice.
What is alloparenting? Are humans an alloparenting species?
I think that we will have longevity escape velocity pretty soon in the coming decades where 100 years may be come the new generation time up from 20 years and we will look like our middle aged selves at most. If there becomes a signifiant ressitance to this then biohacking could make it happen regardless for indiviguals. Also its a great opportunity to make billions for pennies per therapy. We already know much of how aging works, and soon its all about appling them. It would also mean that sexual reproduction becomes irrelevent, and ancent primitive way
OK 😂 Good luck with that!
Hello guys Africa is very fertile right now and it used to be as well so no mention
Sounds like religious people will take over the globe and everything because they have way more kids
Poland pays families to have more than two children
These are the wrong kind of people. It's why.te issue. They do not understand that why.te is the real minority in a world full of melanin
You meant to say "good genes" not "good genetics".
STOP THE AMERICANISATION OF OUR LANGUAGE!!!
Israel is an outlier because of Palestine. If they don't they don't have an Israel. Palestine has a high fertility rate.
We need protection of all humans life from moment of conception.
We also need to make sure they don't end up in communist Romania.
Be real. We need protection of all humans before the moment of conception.
require women to be married and to produce a child every 2 years until they have 2.3 kids
unmarried women or women not on their way to producing 2.3 kids would be ineligible for government services and not allowed to be employed
it should be like military service/selective service is required in many countries for men to retain citizenship or be allowed to work
also all fertility and childcare expenses should be tax deductible (up to a certain limit e.g. the average cost to raise a child per child)
do this it gets fixed over night
Climate change will solve all problems. Cut down population from 8billions to 2billions. THERE IS NO PROMLEMS.