Dragon Force II - The Most Overlooked RPG Sequel Ever?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @Xygor
    @Xygor  3 года назад +12

    What was the most memorable part of Dragon Force II to you?
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    • @danielarellano7186
      @danielarellano7186 2 года назад +1

      I recommend vanguard bandits. A true 💎

    • @Genethagenius
      @Genethagenius 2 года назад

      The most memorable part of “DF2” to me so far is Bartz’ storyline. Really shows you how he’s torn between both sides if his heritage.

    • @mugen8studios
      @mugen8studios Год назад

      The fact it exists!!

  • @reinofhearts
    @reinofhearts Год назад +17

    1:22 Hello! “Talented Amateur Localiser” here! I was one of the translators for this patch, and am just glad that people outside Japan can finally enjoy this great game!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Awesome, thank you so much for your work on it!

    • @TironaBloodspiller
      @TironaBloodspiller Год назад

      Thank you so much!

    • @donstarlancer
      @donstarlancer 7 месяцев назад

      I recently downloaded the patch. Can't wait to try it!

    • @smashedatoms
      @smashedatoms 4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for your work ! I am just now wrapping up Kaedes campaign - fantastic translation !

  • @sikem77
    @sikem77 2 года назад +50

    Translation groups blow my mind with how much hard work they put in for barely any fanfare. I wonder, are there any western text heavy games that get fan translations to Japan or elsewhere?

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад +5

      Yeah man, cheers to all the translation groups out there.

    • @VyseLegendaire
      @VyseLegendaire 2 года назад +2

      Yup. Sakura Taisen was another big one, but the sequel would take the cake. I have heard there is interest in doing it but the quantity of text is very large.

    • @sarcasticguy4311
      @sarcasticguy4311 2 года назад +2

      Good question. You think maybe some random Japanese guys translated Fallout, Fallout 2, Wasteland or original Elder Scrolls games from English to Japanese?

    • @sikem77
      @sikem77 2 года назад +1

      @@sarcasticguy4311 I would love to know if this is the case. The more I think about it though the chances of foreign gamers knowing at least basic English is much higher than Americans knowing Japanese.

    • @sarcasticguy4311
      @sarcasticguy4311 2 года назад +1

      @Derric Steal-yo-gurl Agreed. Consequences of losing wars, I suppose, they all end up learning English, but it's basic conversational English. I've studied Japanese culture for years and still don't get many of their idiosyncrasies and I'll bet that works both ways. This is probably part of the reason it takes so many years for fan translations to get completed. Programming is just one of the hurdles. Half of the world uses a kana-like alphabet and half uses the Roman-esque style in text for gaming and programming which is quite remarkable that a tiny few can extract and translate just so we can play a game never released in certain regions.

  • @MegaHarv
    @MegaHarv 2 года назад +15

    Dragon Force II? Whaaaaaaat? I remember watching my brother play Dragon Force back in the day and thinking it was so cool, but it was years before I even discovered what the name of it was. Now I'm learning about Dragon Force II? I think I need to rekindle my interest in this series. Thanks for the upload!

  • @oneeyedking202
    @oneeyedking202 2 года назад +14

    One of the best games ever released on the Saturn! I played this game obsessively when it was released!

  • @Outshinedsg
    @Outshinedsg 2 года назад +13

    Dragon Force is such a unique game, I haven't played anything else quite like it. It's almost like a weird proto-RTS in the sense that you're moving multiple units around the map and trying to control territory, but it's also interesting to reveal different parts of the story by playing the same scenario from different factions perspectives. I kind of wonder why more games didn't explore this type of gameplay and expand on its mechanics more.

    • @devonwilliams5738
      @devonwilliams5738 Год назад +1

      Probably because a story like this is very difficult to write.

    • @marcbasil
      @marcbasil Год назад

      Uhh this isn’t a video on Dragon Force, bud

  • @eppskevin
    @eppskevin 2 года назад +20

    The 32 bit era was such a golden age for RPGSs! Thanks a lot for sharing that link. I must play that soon! I’m just about done with my SNES Enix trilogy play through. Just gotta play terranigma. So after that it’s on to DF2. I love DF1. So thanks for this info because I kept hearing mixed reviews on 2.

    • @z.s.n.
      @z.s.n. 2 года назад +1

      I got illusion of Gaia from toysrus with my grandpa when I was kid!! I absolutely loved playing it as a kid.

    • @mugen8studios
      @mugen8studios Год назад +1

      Funny how they totally discarded these 2.5d graphics

    • @marcbasil
      @marcbasil Год назад

      You mean mixed reviews on 1, right?

    • @eppskevin
      @eppskevin Год назад

      @@marcbasil I was actually referring to DF 2. I kept hearing mixed reviews on DF2 honestly. At least in my circle

    • @SeanUCF
      @SeanUCF 2 месяца назад

      ​@@eppskevin
      It was only because it didn't change much outside of having a few new troop types and two troop types per general. But when dragon force is so good to begin with, why change it anymore than that?

  • @lumorowenamooncaller9811
    @lumorowenamooncaller9811 2 года назад +6

    I must confess Xygor, I've been consuming your content for weeks now and i didn't subscribe until this video. I guess i was on the fence, but this is some quality content!

  • @galloe8933
    @galloe8933 2 года назад +3

    Oh, do I remember when I first heard about Dragon Force II! I was scrolling through RUclips one day, and there was this video asking if it was the best RPG ever, and that the video would play in 30 minutes. Ah, memories...

  • @Scott-fj9uf
    @Scott-fj9uf 2 года назад

    This is just great. I’m a long time avid gamer and somehow DF2 escaped my knowledge! I can’t wait to DL the patches version on my Satiator and play it! Your channel is really nice.

  • @karloaquinde3476
    @karloaquinde3476 2 года назад +2

    Never knew part 2 existed before. Dragon Force 1 was dope and I sadly never beat it before selling my collection. Miss my sega stuff.
    Good video, thanks for the review.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @VyseLegendaire
    @VyseLegendaire 2 года назад

    Thanks for this. My history with the genre and this game series is identical to yours. While I have the patch and game in the physical, I haven't played it yet due to life. But I am so glad that many of these classics are being translated these days for us to relive the glory days and more.

  • @SMGSnipeyMcGee
    @SMGSnipeyMcGee 2 года назад +1

    Awesome review! Just found your channel and I've subscribed-- your videos and especially reviews are terrific.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад

      Thank you, glad to have you here! Many more to come!

  • @blackishjustin
    @blackishjustin 2 года назад +1

    I remember knowing this game was a Japanese exclusive and my older brother renting it for our Saturn along with X-Men vs. Street Fighter at some point, as the local store we'd get games from would get a lot of imports. Not being able to understand Japanese, it was difficult to play. I'd have my brother just take me into a battle and try to figure it out, but eventually would just go back and play the first game for the nth time. I didn't realize there was a translation for this, so naturally I'm gonna have to try this out in the near future.

  • @sarcasticguy4311
    @sarcasticguy4311 2 года назад +1

    If Dragon Force and Dragon Force 2 were put in a bundle and released for $60 on modern consoles, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

    • @marcbasil
      @marcbasil Год назад

      Uhh just buy the actual games, genius

    • @sarcasticguy4311
      @sarcasticguy4311 Год назад

      @@marcbasil Do you have any idea what those cost? Neither have been in production for nearly 30 years and I'd need a working and modded Saturn. Maybe I should just go buy a bag of diamonds, too?

  • @KLNDR
    @KLNDR 2 года назад

    With these older, more unknown titles that you highlight I'd love to hear more about overall playability in the modern era of gaming, how the quality of life stacks up and whether it's worth seeking out with comparisons to some more modern RPGs/Strategy/Tactics games etc.
    Love the video -- thanks for the unique curation as always Xygor!

    • @marcbasil
      @marcbasil Год назад

      Lmao no one cares about contemporary video games. Video games peaked during the 90s, duh

  • @blackatron9250
    @blackatron9250 2 года назад

    Dragon Force is one of my favorite RPGs of all time. I played it and beat it with every kingdom numerous times but I never played the second installment. I’m strongly considering patching it and playing the second one since I always wanted to play it. Great video!

    • @marcbasil
      @marcbasil Год назад

      This isn’t a video on DF

  • @bigemugamer
    @bigemugamer 3 месяца назад

    Plowing my way through Dragon Force right now during downtime in the oil field and there's a LOT of downtime lol, played through Dreamcast's Experimental Gimmick Gear last month, already grabbed Dragon Force 2 from CDRomance as I go there every few days to grab translated games from the 3rd to the 6th gen of gaming consoles. REALLY enjoying Dragon Force. =D

  • @davidmuldowney
    @davidmuldowney 2 года назад +1

    Sometimes 'more of the same' is exactly what we want from a sequel I wish more game series did that for a few games before messing everything up trying the reinvent the wheel!

  • @Graus4201
    @Graus4201 2 года назад +1

    i belive to have even more awareness of how great you doing this video is. You should have put that it was fan translated and unreleased in the US in the title(rather then your regular title). i love that you helped me find these games and DF2 is awesome even though i played it for the first time in 2021. Ogre battle will always be the best though

  • @paxhumana2015
    @paxhumana2015 2 года назад +2

    I wonder if Dragon Force I and II will be re-released/remastered/remade for modern gaming platforms, complete with English or Japanese text or voice options for both games? Steam owners would absolutely go nuts for those games.

  • @Myrope
    @Myrope 2 года назад +1

    The characters look like they were designed by Nobuteru Yuki!

  • @actionvestadventure
    @actionvestadventure 2 года назад +2

    Oh man, i had completely forgotten about the English translation! I've only recently been getting into Saturn imports and wouldn't mind adding Dragon Force II. I really need to replay Dragon Force as well, it's been yeeeeeeears. Shame Riglord Saga/Mysteria/Blazing Heroes's sequel hasn't gotten a translation. While not the best game, it did scratch that Shining Force-style itch.

    • @DenGreatshot
      @DenGreatshot 2 года назад

      I never realized that game HAD a sequel and now I'm sad about the lack of a patch too. Like you said, not the best game, but pretty fun.

  • @GuileMike
    @GuileMike 2 года назад +1

    I got DF 2 back in 98 and it was fun not knowing what was happening in the story. It was even better when it was patched years later.

  • @WreakHvok
    @WreakHvok 2 года назад +1

    I love the original Dragon force I’m sad I never got to play this

  • @chadgarrett6947
    @chadgarrett6947 2 года назад +4

    Amazing game that really needs to see a re-release. A favorite of my brother and I. He has a tattoo of the crest and I am supposed to be getting mine also, just need to make more money lol Great review, really wish this would get a proper release, I'd even accept a mobile port if they don't do what they did with final fantasy 6 lol

    • @marcbasil
      @marcbasil Год назад

      ?

    • @chadgarrett6947
      @chadgarrett6947 Год назад

      I wasn't a fan of the mobile version of final fantasy 6 if that's what you mean?@@marcbasil

  • @blackatron9250
    @blackatron9250 2 года назад +2

    Also, I don’t understand why no clone of this game ever came out. This game style is 100% unique and there is nothing like it. I would love to see an independent developer take the concept of it and expand a bit without compromising what made the Original so good.

  • @greatrulo
    @greatrulo 2 года назад +3

    This makes me think a lot of a game called Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusades for Xbox, I imagine they were actually kind of inspired on this.

    • @VyseLegendaire
      @VyseLegendaire 2 года назад

      The games have strong similarities, but outside of combat things play out more akin to Ogre Battle with the armies being moved about the world map. Arguably somewhat similar to Brigandine as well especially with the warring kingdoms aspect. Its a pretty unique feeling game and I can't think of anything else quite like it.

  • @jaysea5804
    @jaysea5804 2 года назад +3

    Lol holy crap i didnt know this existed !!!! Thanks for this

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад

      Glad you like it!

  • @mandalovescatspandas1781
    @mandalovescatspandas1781 2 года назад

    Dragon Force was amazing to play!! It was a treat going through every story. As for strategy, I would just spam dragon crests lol. Against samurai, just have more dragons or weaken with another general first, then dragon-em.
    I watched at least one story of the second game years ago, but I had no idea this game existed back in the day.
    Your video inspires me to watch a couple play throughs! The story arc's are a great feature to the game.

  • @kinrechoo3183
    @kinrechoo3183 2 года назад

    i really thank you for reminded me about this game, 100% forget about this type of game combat , now day all the Strategy like combat is all about the same, been searching a new type of strategy combat, and never did i dream to look in the past lol.

  • @galloe8933
    @galloe8933 2 года назад +4

    This game seems to be better than Brigindine, a game it reminds me of by way of moving around the map, but that's not the point, no, the point is that this game is a great find if you're a fan of Ogre Battle for the PS1, or the aforementioned Brigindine, which it most closely seems.

  • @theeschatechannel2854
    @theeschatechannel2854 2 года назад +1

    Had no idea there was a second one! I loved the first one.

  • @clr905
    @clr905 2 года назад

    This game's original subtitle was Sonic Firestorm. :D Please throw eggs at my house.

  • @DrownedInExile
    @DrownedInExile 2 года назад

    Overworld map reminds me of Ogre Battle for SNES. But those massive battles? Never seen anything like that from that era!

  • @besotoxicomusic
    @besotoxicomusic 2 года назад

    Loved the first game more than most other Saturn games and never knew there was a patch for the second. This is a blessing for us westerners. Thank god they didn’t translate the audio.

  • @CypressDahlia
    @CypressDahlia 2 года назад

    1:41 I'm guessing something got messed up translating this portrait from an illustration into pixel art because geez

  • @Sinn0100
    @Sinn0100 2 года назад +2

    Unfortunately, the original Dragon Force was overlooked by most and that was a mistake. The second game never got an official release here so I don't fault anyone for not playing it. I haven't for example...but I haven't forgotten about it.

  • @mugsofmirth8101
    @mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoy your channel. Your intro music sounds so familiar to me. I know I have heard it before but I can't remember where? Please tell me what it's from. I recognize your outro music from Final Fantasy 6/3

    • @Teknoman
      @Teknoman 2 года назад +1

      Magus battle: Chrono Trigger

    • @mugsofmirth8101
      @mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад +1

      @@Teknoman damn I should have known. Thanks!

  • @mryoyo1234
    @mryoyo1234 2 года назад +2

    Never knew this game had a sequel. Fun times.

    • @SeanUCF
      @SeanUCF 2 года назад

      Never been a better time to play it either. The patch (1.04) is probably as far as it'll ever get and doesn't seem to have any bugs (or one's that pop up often anyway) and Saturn Emulation has come a long way.

  • @AllanBaumer0
    @AllanBaumer0 2 года назад

    I want a game that is this + Soul Calibur III's Strategy RPG Mode.

  • @NickEnlowe
    @NickEnlowe 2 года назад +6

    "Unfortunately, the translation patch does not translate the audio." ...Honestly I call that a win. Not only is fan VA usually superbad, but so many fan translation patches have been permanently delayed or never released at all simply because they got too ambitious and wanted to VA the whole thing.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад +1

      Fair enough!

  • @vulfreyde
    @vulfreyde 4 месяца назад

    Do I need to have played the first game, or can I jump into this one right away?

  • @wordofmike
    @wordofmike 2 года назад +1

    I loved this game

  • @multitrackdriftu
    @multitrackdriftu 2 года назад +1

    As a huge fan of the original Dragon Force, I honestly don't care much for its sequel. While it does streamline certain aspects of the original and add some good features to the combat, ultimately I take issue with how the game all but entirely removes the platoon movements of the original as well as how the difficulty lies mostly in the truly tedious caverns. Where the original game would throw you into an overworld full of action that you had to make sense of, the sequel is barren and even railroads you into moving along a predetermined path. This makes the game much less variable, and not just between different playthroughs, either. Taking over the map minus the caverns is ludicrously easy as a result, which really kills the feeling of accomplishment of uniting the continent compared to the original.
    Then you have the caverns, which are easily the single worst aspect of the game. They are truly a chore to complete even when you have high level officers due to the enemies locking your skills. You just sit, wait for all their troops to die, then run the clock until draw and send out a ranged unit to chip away at the enemy officer. I can't think of an experience more antithetical to what made the original so great than this. I think the development team focused too much on the slightly annoying aspects of the original and not enough on actually improving upon what it did well. The sequel feels incomplete to me as a result and I now see why Working Designs didn't bother localizing it back in the day. On a side note, if you want another Dragon Force esque game, 100 Swords for the Dreamcast is worth trying.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад

      Appreciate your thoughts! I will have to check out 100 Swords.

  • @Pepperwolfe
    @Pepperwolfe 2 года назад

    i wonder if the kingdom under fire series was inspired by these games because it definetly reminds me of a 32 bit-era version of those games. im definetly looking forward to playing these!

  • @nathanielperez2280
    @nathanielperez2280 2 года назад

    Is it possible to play this on PC, and if so how?

  • @CrowsSalvation
    @CrowsSalvation 2 года назад

    Game is pretty awesome and it carries over to the original hardware well.

  • @jeffreycummings2769
    @jeffreycummings2769 2 года назад +1

    I've played through Dragon Force II several times many years ago, well before the translation patch ever existed. I don't speak much of any Japanese, but I've played through most of the big Japanese-only Saturn RPG releases usually without too much trouble. Dragon Force II is one of the easier ones, the only real difficulty was having to memorize the different Japanese characters that represented different troop types. Because this game will punish you if you send the wrong troop types into a battle.
    As for the game, I really enjoyed it, and it did improve upon a few things compared to the first one with more special attacks, more troop types, and the ability to have 2 types for each general. However, the thing that still makes me prefer part 1 is that I prefer its sprite art style a bit more, and part 2 had an annoying repretative amount of battles in those caves with almost indistinguishable goblin armies.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate your thoughts. I kind of like the visuals in the first more too.

  • @suprshin
    @suprshin 2 года назад +1

    There was a second one?!?!!!!?!!!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад

      There was!

  • @TheHeroExodus
    @TheHeroExodus 2 года назад

    Wish this was on ps, Xbox or pc. I would love to achievement hunt this.

  • @TheSOB
    @TheSOB 2 года назад

    never played or heard of it but the video of it looks sick

  • @mugsofmirth8101
    @mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад +1

    Never played Dragon Force series. It looks çool. Does having so many sprites on the screen at once cause slow down?

    • @segajukebox
      @segajukebox 2 года назад

      no slowdowns... Saturn power!

  • @Warmaker01
    @Warmaker01 8 месяцев назад

    It was unfortunate that this never made it's way across the Pacific during the 1990s. The simple truth was that the overwhelming amount of games never did get translated. I still recall how problematic it was hoping some JP game would get brought over to North America. Most never made it.

  • @freshwaffle
    @freshwaffle 2 года назад

    THIS GAME LOOKS SWEET AS FKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! OMG

  • @OmegaViper
    @OmegaViper 2 года назад

    Happen to have the manual translated?

  • @Satiator123
    @Satiator123 2 месяца назад

    Am I the only one who got the one soldier left glitch? Where even though they were all killed it still shows one survivor?

  • @kenohomari
    @kenohomari Год назад

    How to get a copy of this? I was so disappointed when the 2nd game was never released to the U.S.

  • @bananarama6808
    @bananarama6808 2 года назад

    I have always wanted to play this game.i own the Japanese version and I hope I can patch it on my Pollymega

  • @xyberninja1760
    @xyberninja1760 2 года назад

    Holy Shit!!! Brain fuck. I played this a thousand years ago on my friends older brothers Saturn! I went to their big ass house and played this alone forever. Fuck yeah Xybor, thanks for getting me the Name of this Fucking game!

  • @jasonmoreno3013
    @jasonmoreno3013 2 года назад +1

    I’ve heard if Dragon Force but never knew what kind of game it was. I feel like I missed out on something fantastic.

    • @Bjorick
      @Bjorick 2 года назад

      i played dragon force one on emulation and it's slow to get into but after an hour or so, it's very worth it, i never finished it as my pc died and when i updated, i didn't want to restart right away, but planning to play it now, as it's been on my mind for the last 5 years

  • @camcarrier8396
    @camcarrier8396 2 года назад

    I would of gave anything to play this game at the time. Loved dragon force. A shame I cant get it workin well now a days.

  • @mugen8studios
    @mugen8studios Год назад +1

    Yes

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Good call!

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 2 года назад

    Dragon Force was one of those games I played and really wish they expanded upon the system and ironed out a few of the annoying little flaws, but sadly there's not any games that I know of that play like it.

  • @Biomechanic2010
    @Biomechanic2010 2 года назад

    Overlooked!? Dragon force was my favorite for a long time. Uryll was my first crush... how was I to get an English copy?

  • @mybecember
    @mybecember 2 года назад +1

    Great looking game!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад +1

      I think so too!

  • @yousefahmed1168
    @yousefahmed1168 2 года назад

    Do u know a way to run it on aethersx2 on android.

  • @stevie9632
    @stevie9632 11 месяцев назад +2

    There was a sequel?!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yep!

  • @steamdeckknights8978
    @steamdeckknights8978 2 года назад

    If I remember this needs a strong walk-through God I think I couldn't even get in battle

  • @koobsmooth
    @koobsmooth 2 года назад

    If I could only buy one game which would you recommend? Dragon Force or Dragon Force 2?

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад +2

      Dragon Force

  • @alita86
    @alita86 2 года назад

    YES!

  • @Lufqil92
    @Lufqil92 2 года назад +1

    This remind me of Fire Emblem. Must be my imagination.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  2 года назад +1

      It has some similarities for sure.

  • @lavosier2
    @lavosier2 10 месяцев назад

    Porque diabos a Sega não relança esses jogos dela ou dá continuidade?

  • @jotakux7489
    @jotakux7489 2 года назад

    That nes classic link has a pic of a ps4 controller.

  • @epicplayer8390
    @epicplayer8390 3 месяца назад

    Does anybody here known if Sony or Nintendo will bring back DFI or DFII? It's a shame, in time like these, that we can´t play it in a actual platform, just emulators! So sad about this...

  • @NemesisTWarlock
    @NemesisTWarlock 2 года назад

    *stares*
    Its 2D Total War.

  • @mishking9547
    @mishking9547 2 года назад +1

    Never even heard of the first Dragon Force, if I am going to be honest....

  • @Satiator123
    @Satiator123 2 месяца назад

    Emulation isn't necessary. You can play translated games on original hardware with an ODE.

  • @kennyng2730
    @kennyng2730 Год назад

    I played the shyt out of dragon force series. Its one of the reason why i bought sega saturn and not playstation then. The main reason was due to lagrisser.

  • @CanistSyaoran
    @CanistSyaoran 2 года назад

    What are the odds of a switch remaster collection??? Switch is getting pretty aggressive with the remaster, lol!

  • @辛拉麵五告
    @辛拉麵五告 9 месяцев назад

    😮😮😮

  • @Tetsaga
    @Tetsaga 2 года назад

    Not sure if you're into feedback, but something about your videos all feels extremely same-y. It could be how your voice is monotone or you perhaps script your videos in the same way, but it feels like I'm watching the exact same video every time lol

  • @sarcasticguy4311
    @sarcasticguy4311 2 года назад

    Overlooked? Pppfff.....
    Used Saturns aren't terribly expensive but try finding a working copy of the game you can actually afford.
    Even emulation is a pain because most of the downloads are corrupted.

  • @csward5380
    @csward5380 2 года назад

    Working Designs ruined a lot of games sadly with bad translations and making gameplay worse. I used to think they were awesome, but if you look into it they were not.

  • @bungmonkey2295
    @bungmonkey2295 2 года назад

    Game was never released in usa so obviously it was overlooked duh this isn't news