to be fair you’re underselling 14th gen a bit. it’s still very much a tock, but they did improve frequency per voltage. meaning they can hit higher clocks at less power. it’s about a 3-5% increase over last year, which isn’t great but it’s more than just 2 fps
It's like overclocked version of 13th gen. Intel's 10nm production technology is limiting them. They must bring 7 nm or 5 4 nm in the next gen otherwise there won't be good news for Intel as well as for end users (competition matters)
Never buy anything new until A, the price goes down, B, its been out for s bit so it can be tested and any bugs or instability issues can be resolved, and C, any QC issues can be adressed
😂😂😂 FX its too far away to combined powers with Apple. Just to make a underpowered processor. That's using 2 types memory to read with different capacity. ☠️☠️☠️
I switched from a 5800x3d to a 12900k from a great deal I got. If intel 15th gen doesn't make some serious gains over the future 9000 series AMD I'll be going right back to AMD if it makes sense. I just got that micro center deal for a 12900k, ddr5 ram and a mobo for $400. Pretty great deal.
Choose what's best bang for buck for you like really you got a good deal 🤝 i am a AMD Fanboi but i will still choose intel if i got a bang deal like you
Would be great news it it was actual cores but its just useless little baby cores for gamers. And anyone who can actually use e cores still goes for the i9. Remember this is expensive die space. Generally e cores are just empty die space for gamers which they have to pay for.
what did you expect, yall wanted to stay on LG1700 intel is know to be unable to find more perfomace on same socket so they just overclocked the 13900K
12th gen: 16 cores 13th gen: 24 cores 14th gen: 24 cores. yea the price is high; but it's because of the cores, not because they felt like raising the price.
Well yeah with the tech we currently have they basically perfected cpus on the 1700 socket. People complain about using new sockets so they used the same one and surprise surprise people are complaining😭
do the same for laptops, it's like exchanging needs in a room. The whole biz😮 like in hostel every laptop drop one element that means not to cost of company, Play boy.
The idea of 14th gen was just testing a new tech or design ( idk how I addresse it) to make cpu more power efficient, once I knew that , ik I shouldn't put hopes on the 14th in matter of performance, but it also means I can have high hopes on next gens in the future. 😊
I think we underestimate other things and just stupidly judge by the FPS all the time, for example 4060 was almost the same as 3060/3060ti but no one wants to acknowledge that it uses literally half the power and runs way cooler and is cheaper, we really don't need way better performance at this point, we need improvements to make what we already have better and more efficient. Getting a 4060 instead of 3060 means you can save on cooling and PSU too, and no one mentioned any other specs of 14th gen so we can see where else it improved.
Well I was planning on using the new i5 in my upcoming build, but now I think I need to do a bit more research. Ought as well save myself some money cause the build is gonna cost me a fortune.
Ima keep it real I recently bought a pc with a rtx 4090 gpu and it keeps crashing. I’ve fixed all the driver problems and electrical problems, and I don’t know what else it would be. Please see this comment.
Oh noez its only 1 or 2 more FPS. Yeah, games aren't the only thing out there you know. Not only that, your CPU isn't the device rendering the frames you see on screen. That'd be your GPU.
Really? My first computer was a Commodore 64 in the mid 80's. I go back with gaming even farther than that to things like the Colecovision. I've been gaming on various platforms for over 40 years now. Your original post shows that you don't understand how a CPU and GPU work together. An old 2 core CPU paired with a 4090 isn't going to run for shit in a modern game because the CPU can't keep up with what the GPU is doing. Getting a smooth frame rate requires more than just the fastest GPU. This guy's channel is all about gaming performance so that's what he's focusing on here. Does he care that the newest Intel CPU can render Cinebench R23 3 seconds faster than the last gen part? No because that performance isn't related to gaming. It's an entirely different type of computing that is heavily threaded unlike most games.
What’s a good budget cpu to pair with the NVIDIA 3070 (it can have a slight cpu bottleneck but preferably a gpu bottleneck because my first choice is Ryzen 5 5600 but it’s a %10 cpu bottleneck) I also live in Australia if that matters 😊
If you are open to the idea of changing to AM5 the 7600 is good. I switched over to that one this year and have no complaints. Still a bit more expensive than AM4 boards and DRR4, but at least here in Europe the prices have come down a lot on those components. Unless you are on a tight budget. In that case probably the best choice to go with one of the later AM4 x3d ones.
I guess it was supposed to get that competition to freak out and and push out the brand new motherboard and CPU really trying to rush AmD go crazy lol 😂😂😂
I would consider the 5950 X, or the 7800 X3D like what I’ll be saving up for. Intel is pretty expensive nowadays, just your typical ATX LGA 1700 motherboard cost as much as a CPU or APU. Am I wrong to think that Intel is not worth the money?
AM5 will be supported until at least 2026 according to the roadmap AMD released, so you could buy a 7000 series chip and potentially throw a 10000 one in later on.
If I buy an Intel motherboard now I will have to throw it in a trash next year and buy another if I want to upgrade. So I prefer buy an AM5 that will last a lot more
What Nvidia gpu do you recommend for a mid range gaming pc for under $500 that can support Rtx I recently got a PC and I need a GPU that can support ray tracing so I can play RTX Minecraft.
Bang for the buck? Any 12th/13th/14th with 8 P cores. Turn off the E cores and use the extra power to make the P cores faster. So *any* 8 core processor will be fine. You see no appreciable gains from an i9 if gaming. So 12700K and turn off the E cores. Or 13700K same.
@@eltigretroll777 2080 ti ( 4% faster) > 3070 ( 3% faster) > 4060 ti a 2080 ti is ~19% faster than a 2070 super so NOT worth it to upgrade, you want at least 40% better performance to really notice a difference a 3080 is only ~27% faster than a 2070 super so something like a 3080 ti, or 4070
If your building new and your not on 12th or better. Buy 14th gen for the better binning and oc potential and also they can undervolt better too. But am5 is a pain with trying to get anything over 6000 on ram so keep that in mind
You wanna know why something increases in price? It's because of an increase in demand (in this case). Because nobody wants unstable AMD products, enjoy your cheap chinese knockoff.
I was choosing pc parts and was going to get an i7 13th gen but they were out of stock and the 14th gen was in stock and was 11 cheaper, so I thought, ye, screw ott
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
Nvidia taking notes💀
RTX 5090 : 1% better, 30% more powerdraw
Also NVIDIA : we announced the world's first nuclear fusion PSU for RTX 5090 at the price of 10K... 99 cents.
@@ZERARCHIVE2023Hahaga ambatakam
@@ZERARCHIVE2023You can't be more accurate💀
Just another day of watching content I’ll never be able to afford.
Intel: makes the same cpu on a new socket
AMD: makes a new cpu on the same socket
14th gen is on the same socket as 13th
@@LukeSmith1984 really? shit thats new they usually just do two gens and then ditch the socket
@@LukeSmith1984 and 12th
if you had a 12100f you can upgrade to a 14700k like a boss
@@hatefulflame9986 not this time
@@OdinAlgeron absolutely. I personally would either wait for meteor lake or switch to AM5, I think it would make more sense financially
Intel was taking notes from nvidia
More like apple 💀
@@nategrenade8695nvidia taking notes from apple intel taking notes from nvidia
😂😂😂
@@nategrenade8695ehh ig I see ur point
Intel wrote the book on crappy generational ‘improvements’
Intel: New Socket Please
AMD: New parts please
This guy never lets us build a PC
The algorithm is high
Intel is hitting the wall with there cpu design
to be fair you’re underselling 14th gen a bit. it’s still very much a tock, but they did improve frequency per voltage. meaning they can hit higher clocks at less power. it’s about a 3-5% increase over last year, which isn’t great but it’s more than just 2 fps
It's like overclocked version of 13th gen. Intel's 10nm production technology is limiting them. They must bring 7 nm or 5 4 nm in the next gen otherwise there won't be good news for Intel as well as for end users (competition matters)
@@kevinlow694203*
it's a tok, tik are new architecture, tok are refresh
@@MarcsSpark so it's tick tock tock now?
@kevinlow69420 no, 13th was a tik, 12th gen is alder lake, 13th gen is raptor lake. We had 2 tik in a row with 12th and 13th gen
this is actually good now we get lower price for the same performance
Never buy anything new until A, the price goes down, B, its been out for s bit so it can be tested and any bugs or instability issues can be resolved, and C, any QC issues can be adressed
*Basically like a small overclock lol*
Considering I’m on an amd Ryzen 5950X, RTX 3080, I’ll be happy with where I’m at for several years to come
this aged well
Intel has mutated to Apple💀
😂😂😂 FX its too far away to combined powers with Apple. Just to make a underpowered processor. That's using 2 types memory to read with different capacity. ☠️☠️☠️
It would be great if AMD tried to do 3 to 4 Generations per socket. GPU’s are still not being saturated on a 16x PCI 3.0 lane, so no problems there.
AMD use AM4 from Zen, to Zen+, Zen2, and Zen3. That's about 5 years of support, and 4 generations.
@@TheStopwatchGod yes. 4 generations. I’m asking them to maybe support AM5 for about the same time.
@@BuzzBazzJthere's rumors zen 6 will be on am6 so we just gotta wait and see
@@geekmechanic1473 Yeah, that's what scares me. If they put out only 2 gens on AM5 it might be the gen to skip.
I switched from a 5800x3d to a 12900k from a great deal I got. If intel 15th gen doesn't make some serious gains over the future 9000 series AMD I'll be going right back to AMD if it makes sense. I just got that micro center deal for a 12900k, ddr5 ram and a mobo for $400. Pretty great deal.
Choose what's best bang for buck for you like really you got a good deal 🤝 i am a AMD Fanboi but i will still choose intel if i got a bang deal like you
The 14700 series does have 4 more cores than 13th gen though so it’s not all bad.
12700K to 14700K would probably have major performance gains in some tittles, CPU multithreaded task like beamNG are probably a lot faster
That's true, however it is more expensive and more cores only benefit multitasking and not gaming performance
@@Michya_ Oh then now is prime time🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯💯
@@Michya_ prices are probably gonna drop on the 12700k thought
Would be great news it it was actual cores but its just useless little baby cores for gamers. And anyone who can actually use e cores still goes for the i9. Remember this is expensive die space. Generally e cores are just empty die space for gamers which they have to pay for.
what did you expect, yall wanted to stay on LG1700 intel is know to be unable to find more perfomace on same socket so they just overclocked the 13900K
12th gen: 16 cores
13th gen: 24 cores
14th gen: 24 cores.
yea the price is high; but it's because of the cores, not because they felt like raising the price.
Well isn’t this their tick-tock strategy? One’s a refresh, the other one an actual upgrade..
Yeah but they shouldn't at least increase the power for a refresh
@@RAYX07 agreed
Man am5 is going to be considered old 💀 I just got a am4 PC a few months ago 😢
bro pulled a apple
Well yeah with the tech we currently have they basically perfected cpus on the 1700 socket. People complain about using new sockets so they used the same one and surprise surprise people are complaining😭
Sounds like a regular fanbase tbh always complain
do the same for laptops, it's like exchanging needs in a room. The whole biz😮 like in hostel every laptop drop one element that means not to cost of company, Play boy.
im saving up for my first pc and im def going to buy off your website
Intel just pulled a apple
14th gen is basically 11th ge
you already know userbenchmark is gonna praise this shii
I think that 14th gen will be a calm before the storm until intel releases their new line of cpus
Copium 💀
arrow lake will be released at 24Q4
@@shivamthodge1688 I am not trying to cope since this is just speculation
@@psychic-friend-toy-freddyignore the troll
they take information from shots which cut down 90% of the details
@@itsmilan4069 I can agree
The idea of 14th gen was just testing a new tech or design ( idk how I addresse it) to make cpu more power efficient, once I knew that , ik I shouldn't put hopes on the 14th in matter of performance, but it also means I can have high hopes on next gens in the future. 😊
Doing the Apple move
Intel Dark Ages flashback intensifies☠️☠️☠️
Cry in 14nm
I think we underestimate other things and just stupidly judge by the FPS all the time, for example 4060 was almost the same as 3060/3060ti but no one wants to acknowledge that it uses literally half the power and runs way cooler and is cheaper, we really don't need way better performance at this point, we need improvements to make what we already have better and more efficient. Getting a 4060 instead of 3060 means you can save on cooling and PSU too, and no one mentioned any other specs of 14th gen so we can see where else it improved.
I just got am acer veriton and i want to overclock the i5 in it but idk how to
Oh but this is EXCITING
Pryce drops for 13th gen are always exciting
Well I was planning on using the new i5 in my upcoming build, but now I think I need to do a bit more research. Ought as well save myself some money cause the build is gonna cost me a fortune.
14th gen is better for workstation from what i heard
Thank god i bought the 13 gen im lovin it . But i could have waited for it it would have been significantly cheaper .
Imagine AMD pulled off a x3d with integrated GPU and it will cost just 700-800$
Is an i5 12600KF and a 4070 a good pair?
If it's a ryzen 4070 then yep
I am very happy because intel did not rename the cpus👍
the new naming scheme starts next gen.
Ima keep it real I recently bought a pc with a rtx 4090 gpu and it keeps crashing.
I’ve fixed all the driver problems and electrical problems, and I don’t know what else it would be.
Please see this comment.
weird bugs and crashes are often caused by ram issues
Lol 14th gen you forgot about the institution set and the upgradable os version 😅
I just built a pc with an intel i5 12600k, 4070, 32gb 6000, Samsung 980 pro 2tb it’s for gaming but also a workstation did I make the right decision
yes after a bios update you can get a 14th gen
No, throw that CPU away and buy the 14900k now
@@kevinlow69420 no
my exact thinking@@OdinAlgeron
I did my first ever build with the ryzen 5 7600, I'm waiting for whatever 8000 x3d to upgrade
but intel has 2x more core xd... nobody talking about that...
But now the 13th gen are getting cheaper so is it batter to get intel or get an AMD cpu ?!?
Apple has teached hes kids really good first Nvidia now intel....hope amd is not following this stupid trend
They kind of are with Radeon, but their CPU business is way too important to pull these kinds of scams.
it's a raptorlake refreshas they stated at the beginning the 14th gen meteorlake is coming during next year
Oh noez its only 1 or 2 more FPS. Yeah, games aren't the only thing out there you know. Not only that, your CPU isn't the device rendering the frames you see on screen. That'd be your GPU.
Tell me you don't understand CPU/GPU balance without telling me you don't understand CPU/GPU balance.
@@brandons9138 I know way more than you. Been doing this since before gaming GPUs were a thing.
Really? My first computer was a Commodore 64 in the mid 80's. I go back with gaming even farther than that to things like the Colecovision. I've been gaming on various platforms for over 40 years now.
Your original post shows that you don't understand how a CPU and GPU work together. An old 2 core CPU paired with a 4090 isn't going to run for shit in a modern game because the CPU can't keep up with what the GPU is doing. Getting a smooth frame rate requires more than just the fastest GPU.
This guy's channel is all about gaming performance so that's what he's focusing on here. Does he care that the newest Intel CPU can render Cinebench R23 3 seconds faster than the last gen part? No because that performance isn't related to gaming. It's an entirely different type of computing that is heavily threaded unlike most games.
@@brandons9138 My first was the VIC 20. Clearly your e-peen is massive.
Its like Apple with there iPhones😂
I'm really glad that i made the decision to go with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d in my New gaming PC instead of an Intel Processor😅
Smoothbrainmoments Edit:(Feels literally like a scam for people which upgrade their systems maybe every 5-6 years without checking everything twice)
Ever since I got back into looking at pc parts a few months ago everything that comes out is just paying next gen prices for last gen performance
14th gen is cheaper on some online companies then 13th gen
What’s a good budget cpu to pair with the NVIDIA 3070 (it can have a slight cpu bottleneck but preferably a gpu bottleneck because my first choice is Ryzen 5 5600 but it’s a %10 cpu bottleneck) I also live in Australia if that matters 😊
If you are open to the idea of changing to AM5 the 7600 is good. I switched over to that one this year and have no complaints. Still a bit more expensive than AM4 boards and DRR4, but at least here in Europe the prices have come down a lot on those components. Unless you are on a tight budget. In that case probably the best choice to go with one of the later AM4 x3d ones.
Should I take the i5 12400f with arc a570 or GTX 1660?
Its the same price on my eara?
Considering how you can still buy brand new AM4 chips, I think AM5 is staying for a long time
What do you think about a Ryzen 7 7700X with a 4060 ti 16gb for 3440x1440 ultra wide gaming
I guess it was supposed to get that competition to freak out and and push out the brand new motherboard and CPU really trying to rush AmD go crazy lol 😂😂😂
lol I still have my i3 10105
10105 is such a waste of money. Just get the 10100.
@@tbaudelaireits probably in a laptop
Please tell me if the Radeon RX 6600 is a good gpu, also is it compatibile with my i5-7600K CPU and my asus H110M-K motherboard?
I would consider the 5950 X, or the 7800 X3D like what I’ll be saving up for. Intel is pretty expensive nowadays, just your typical ATX LGA 1700 motherboard cost as much as a CPU or APU. Am I wrong to think that Intel is not worth the money?
It must be so much better because the number is higher!
that's literally the reason intel is more popular lol
AM5 will be supported until at least 2026 according to the roadmap AMD released, so you could buy a 7000 series chip and potentially throw a 10000 one in later on.
What do you think about two CPU chip in one motherboard?
how long can i be able to use ryzen 5 7600x , if i purchase it now?
2025
@@Smac-n-cheekz only 2 years, really 🥲
So what I heard is that its like 1000 better though.
I’ve got a 12900k in my build
If I buy an Intel motherboard now I will have to throw it in a trash next year and buy another if I want to upgrade. So I prefer buy an AM5 that will last a lot more
What Nvidia gpu do you recommend for a mid range gaming pc for under $500 that can support Rtx I recently got a PC and I need a GPU that can support ray tracing so I can play RTX Minecraft.
It depends on how long the AM5 sockets will last. They say it's good up until 2025. That's hardly future proof if you ask me.
And the rumors of zen 6 on am6
Bang for the buck? Any 12th/13th/14th with 8 P cores. Turn off the E cores and use the extra power to make the P cores faster. So *any* 8 core processor will be fine. You see no appreciable gains from an i9 if gaming. So 12700K and turn off the E cores. Or 13700K same.
Classic intel
Guys I'm new to pc and I want Intel i7 14700k and an Asus tuf gaming rtx 4070ti super is it good???
Wait for the new embeded KE processors launch up. Or buy the i9 12900k. Cause you're on the edge of the earthquake right now. 😂
@@R3Vieè-WcXd_798 changed my mind now I'm thinking a 7 7800x3d and a 4080
@@ssvr_7 ok
Which gpu do you recommend with ryzen 5 2400 g
and 8 gigs of ram
What is the best gaming pc for 1000 euros????
Ryzen 5600 + rx 6700 xt
I had high hopes for Intel when their 12th gen launched. This is just sad.
Gate keeping stuff for 2025, I’m waiting to build my new pc around that time.
"New" CPUs
Also, "future-proofing" is a fool's errand. Just lookmat this launch, you don't know if 8000 series will be a value upgrade.
I bought 14700k because I work with software and it is faster than 13700k in such case
What is the best GPU for Ryzen 7 3700x without bottlenecking?
I have a ryzen 9 5900x and a rtx 2070 super should I upgrade to 4060ti?
No get a 2080ti
@@Smac-n-cheekz is it worth the upgrade from a 2070 super to a 2080 ti. Or should I get a rtx 3070
@@eltigretroll777 2080 ti ( 4% faster) > 3070 ( 3% faster) > 4060 ti
a 2080 ti is ~19% faster than a 2070 super
so NOT worth it to upgrade, you want at least 40% better performance to really notice a difference
a 3080 is only ~27% faster than a 2070 super
so something like a 3080 ti, or 4070
@@OdinAlgeron for a 650W supply what is the best thing I can get?
@@eltigretroll777 something like a
Seasonic FOCUS GM-650
EVGA Supernova G2 650
Corsair Rm650x
Antec HCG gold 650
What is a good cpu for a photo and video build, currently using a i7 2.8ghz in a gaming laptop from 2017 but the gtx 1050 graphics is playing up.
AM5 is sustainable for 5 generation including 7000 series.
If your building new and your not on 12th or better. Buy 14th gen for the better binning and oc potential and also they can undervolt better too. But am5 is a pain with trying to get anything over 6000 on ram so keep that in mind
Next year intel gonna drop i9 14th gen pro max🤣🤣🤣
Is a ryzen 5 3600 a good combination with a 1080?
Intel want to push previous generations stock :)
Simple as that
Any am5 mobo suggestions for amd 7800x3d, budget friendly one, don't want to spend too much on mobo
Which graphics card is best RTX 2060 or Rx 6600
I still rather have Intel, thanks
Uh, at this point, people should avoid 14th gen Intel CPUs. Intel is taking a page out of Donald Trump’s book of avoiding accountability.
Any issues with a 12400k and a rx 580? I plan to upgrade the gpu to a 2090 later on.
its fair cuz on newegg its an 8 dollar difference.. 8 dollars more for 1/4 percent more performance.. just save the 8 bucks and buy some pizza
Just built 2 new pcs, chose amd instantly. 5800x ftw
same
Had to release cpus... but 14th gen sounds better than 13750k 13950k
Bro in pcpartpicker the 13600K is 10$ more expensive than 14600K and +1 or 2 fps
after the 14th generation of Intel appeared.
The prices of 13th generation Intel and AMD have all increased.
The point is, it's time to buy AM5 ~
You wanna know why something increases in price? It's because of an increase in demand (in this case). Because nobody wants unstable AMD products, enjoy your cheap chinese knockoff.
@pill-poppingnarcissist UserBenchmarks is that you?
@@dueleus crackbaby need his crackpipe?
Buy me one
I was choosing pc parts and was going to get an i7 13th gen but they were out of stock and the 14th gen was in stock and was 11 cheaper, so I thought, ye, screw ott