1: go 10• to the rail 2: lets try at the end of the rail for safe 3: bend knees when land on the rail 4: use heelside againts the rail 5: lean back when land on the rail 6: land on the botls of board
Hi Ben, great video as always! Keep 'em coming Front 50's are one of my strongest tricks on round rails and in general, but i kinda struggle with getting my back 50's as consistent and confortable as my FS ones. I'd love to see you cover BS 50s in your next one. Cheers from Romania!
Don't forget to mention when you sliding the wheels to the end to have a little heel pinch. I can already 5050 but round rails scare me still. You broke this down very nicely and mentioned some things I didn't know. Great video man!
Ben is the type of guy that explains in length for 20min the intricacies for every dimensions of boards, trucks, wheels, etc. Then only need 5min to set you up to skate round rails. 😂
I don't know, but round rails freak me out hahah. Definitely have to get over some fear, because you are right. A flat bar might be easier when the landing is just right enough, but on a round rail you can definitely adjust. I think the way you pinch wheels and lock in on a round rail is less dependent on getting in the correct fixed angle of a flatbar.
Had these back in da day, but round rails kinda freak me out now, lol. But your explanation is on point: really focus on getting on good and landing on your heels - with round rails, it's usually much worse if you don't get on enough. Like if I'd over-ollie, my board would flip out underneath but I'd land on my feet, whereas not getting on enough will tend to result in more heinous bails. This can be counter-intuitive to natural born ledge skaters who might have learned the hard way how over-ollieing a super slippery ledge and missing the edge can result in instant death.
Facts. I’m a ledge skater, but for some reason i still prefer to take a hard slam on a ledge then a round rail😂 it’s all mental. Gotta work on my rail game.
That’s interesting that you lock in on your heels for frontside fifty’s on a round rail. I I seem to always cross lock them and can actually carry them pretty far that way. Might have to try and learn em this way as well.
For the ollie timing, I found out a super helpful exercise I made up(I used to have problem with ollie timing). I fixed this in one day by doing this one exercise. I jumped from ollie postion to all four bolts. I figured out that you don't really try to pop the board, if you try to jump it will automatically pop the board and the motion you use to pop the board, is the jump from ollie position to landing on all four bolts. When you ollie, pop the way you jump, like don't try to pop the board, just jump and the board will automatically pop. The board automatically pop, because when you jump, you put pressure on the ground and force, so if you jump on ur board, you will put pressure and force on the tail. The timing was something I couldn't fix in the ollie no matter how hard I tried, so I decided to try this exercise I made up a few times and I DID AN OLLIE WITH CORRECT TIMING.
If you want to lock in any way you get on, you gotta be aware which side of the truck is touching the rail, if the toe side of the board and wheels are locked in, you balance your weight over your toes. if you locked in with the heelside of the board and wheels, you balance your weight over your heels like in the video above. I think learning all lockins helps, as some tricks require toe or heel side pinch and for those tricks youll have to balance on either your toes or heels.
I've always tried heelside but I put too much weight and I end up falling backwards. I just need to spend a whole day eating shit cause thats probably what its gonna take lol
@@benruiz3191 you may be leaning back too much thinking that's putting pressure on the heels. stay squared ontop of the rail & let your wheels lock in heel side. make sure you're staying crouched on the rail as well. if you try to stand up too fast it'll slip out every time.
5050's on round rails have always been difficult for me. I can do them, just not always perfectly clean and locked in. Weird because I can do other basic grinds/slides just fine.
JUST KEEP SKATING Crazy that I’m Now 21 and it’s been 10 years since I last skated… I started playing school sports! And now that I’m not playing ball anymore I came back home to tampa I grabbed my board off the wall got sum trucks grip tape and wheels! Was working at vans and I took advantage of the opportunity of getting free shoes and a discount on skate shop 🙃🫡so I got my board right and been hitting the bro bowl skating round onnthe ramps n poppin Ollie’s tryna get the kickflip back in motion and other tricks but it’s been a min and I am saying this because I live with the words just keep skating 💯 thank you for this😂💯
For me, once I learned how to 50-50 stall I went for it and found the faster I went the easier it was and after the first couple of bails my confidence was up and I more easily 50-50
I learned 5050s like 4-5months ago and can do 5-0, nose grind, nose slide and learning crook now and i can do some of em on a flatbar but never had the balls to try it on a roundbar
i am very weird with rails, the ledge of my local park is practically a round rail since the coping is a round rail that pops up a lot more than the concrete, but there is a weird mental barrier that doesnt allow me to do any grind trick on any kind of rail, spetially since i am the kind of guy that don´t like gettting speed to do tricks.
I saw your gow to ollie video but my back foot likes goes behind be instead of going up and do I slide first than pop or do them at the same time and when I pop is my back foot off the tail and any tips or how to pop the tail correctly and how do I get my ollies higher do I slide my front foot in a horizontal way or diagonally
Thanks Ben. I ate shit too many times as a young’n so I avoid these now haha. I would love a frontside noseslide or front board tutorial. I have trouble with the finding the proper weight distribution. Always need to come out fakie for both. Cheers!
I finally came over my fear of 50-50s on a round rails last weekend. What really helped me is putting the board on the rail and hopping on the rail with one foot first and then the second one to get a sense on how it feels to be on top of the rail. Dan Corrigan also has a usefull tutorial on this. You just gotta commit once! After that is opens up some doors in my opinion. For me it let to fs smith, which then again led to fs lipslide. Had so much fun.
Very good tutorial, but I am struggling with where to look when ollieing onto or especially over things. I find that if I look down at my board I can get a better ollie; as in higher and more comfortable. But it screws up my timing. Can anyone please give me some tips and advice? Thank you
typically you look where you want to go, not down at your board. for example - if you were going to grind a ledge, you could look at & aim for the ledge, not down at your board. sounds like you just need some practice to get more comfortable with it. i would suggest finding a small curb & practicing a few things on that. ollie on top of it, into a grind/stall, etc. practice & get really comfortable with that & i think youll be good to go
I don’t understand how people say flat bars are easier. Round rails have a way more consistent friction(less stick or slide out potential) and they hurt a lot less to fall on(no sharp edges). Also more room for error when getting on like he said. And board slides you can almost roll your board up from an Ollie. You just need better balance when sliding is the only downside I guess.
I always thought flat bars were square because it's a flat surface, but I guess a round rail could be technically flat if there's no incline or decline.
what grind would it be if you did the diagonal wheel pinch on 50 50s but instead you pinch in between your deck and your wheels, so both of your wheels are under the rail but your decks on top?
@@Skateboardin1278 Ok i whatched the parts and that's the first time I've ever seen anything like that. But its not exactly what I meant. It needs to be done on a rail with the diagonally facing wheels on their side locking in(under) on both sides of the rail
@@Kash.mp3 not all the times i land it but i improved my position thinking that i need to do a manual or just trying in a curb to fall in the skate more in the taile, changing my jump to feel better.
I can do crooks ,lips ,I’ve done overcrooks,nose slides ,flip board slides ,noseblunts ,etc and I literally cannot 5050 on a round bar and it makes no fucking sense as to why I can’t do a 5050 on a rail but I can do all these other tricks. It pisses me off so I hope I can learn from this lol
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these scare me so much but i need to learn them because they look so fun
Skateboarding in a nut shell.
Kids these days eat round rails for breakfast it’s amazing.
With a side of wax
thats facts!
My homie can front smith the shit outta some round rails I’m terrified of them lmao
@@Creaturefiendyo round rails are easier for smiths and feebles
And the loooosest trucks haha
1: go 10• to the rail
2: lets try at the end of the rail for safe
3: bend knees when land on the rail
4: use heelside againts the rail
5: lean back when land on the rail
6: land on the botls of board
After watching this tip I did one for the first time ever! I'm 40 now...
I got a few more recently. Try and land locked-in and then really lean as much as possible on heels!
Perfect. My 10 yo son learned these and I'm having to relearn them. This will help me catch up until he one ups me again.
Good father
Love these, keep pumping them out!
Hi Ben, great video as always! Keep 'em coming
Front 50's are one of my strongest tricks on round rails and in general, but i kinda struggle with getting my back 50's as consistent and confortable as my FS ones. I'd love to see you cover BS 50s in your next one.
Cheers from Romania!
I love the way you explain and edit your vids.
Honestly this was a great video and help. Thank you sir!
OMG its the Vancouver carpenter. I watched all your drywall videos. Here i am watching your skate tutorial!!! You're awesome 👌
Don't forget to mention when you sliding the wheels to the end to have a little heel pinch. I can already 5050 but round rails scare me still. You broke this down very nicely and mentioned some things I didn't know. Great video man!
The depth you went into is perfection. Good stuff brother 🔥
Awesome! Thank you!
Ben is the type of guy that explains in length for 20min the intricacies for every dimensions of boards, trucks, wheels, etc. Then only need 5min to set you up to skate round rails. 😂
Great tutorial video Ben!
This is tutorial I was waiting for
My back truck usually goes toe side but it works out well because of the staying crouched tip thanks!
Grinding a round rail feels so good!
Great tutorial keep the videos coming 👊🏼🔥🔥
I don't know, but round rails freak me out hahah. Definitely have to get over some fear, because you are right. A flat bar might be easier when the landing is just right enough, but on a round rail you can definitely adjust. I think the way you pinch wheels and lock in on a round rail is less dependent on getting in the correct fixed angle of a flatbar.
Thanks for the tips
Had these back in da day, but round rails kinda freak me out now, lol. But your explanation is on point: really focus on getting on good and landing on your heels - with round rails, it's usually much worse if you don't get on enough. Like if I'd over-ollie, my board would flip out underneath but I'd land on my feet, whereas not getting on enough will tend to result in more heinous bails. This can be counter-intuitive to natural born ledge skaters who might have learned the hard way how over-ollieing a super slippery ledge and missing the edge can result in instant death.
Facts. I’m a ledge skater, but for some reason i still prefer to take a hard slam on a ledge then a round rail😂 it’s all mental. Gotta work on my rail game.
I had rail 50s front and backside back in the day too. Now I'm just scared to try. It's a sad feeling
Thank god man i needed this
🔥🔥🔥🔥. Might have to try it out ;). Loved the montage outro.
Love your vids!
That’s interesting that you lock in on your heels for frontside fifty’s on a round rail. I I seem to always cross lock them and can actually carry them pretty far that way. Might have to try and learn em this way as well.
Thanks to you I landed my first 50-50 on a round bar
Thanks for making this!!
Another great tutorial!
Definitely wanna get these!!
For the ollie timing, I found out a super helpful exercise I made up(I used to have problem with ollie timing). I fixed this in one day by doing this one exercise. I jumped from ollie postion to all four bolts. I figured out that you don't really try to pop the board, if you try to jump it will automatically pop the board and the motion you use to pop the board, is the jump from ollie position to landing on all four bolts. When you ollie, pop the way you jump, like don't try to pop the board, just jump and the board will automatically pop. The board automatically pop, because when you jump, you put pressure on the ground and force, so if you jump on ur board, you will put pressure and force on the tail. The timing was something I couldn't fix in the ollie no matter how hard I tried, so I decided to try this exercise I made up a few times and I DID AN OLLIE WITH CORRECT TIMING.
Thanks!! My forst 5050 try on a round rail was on street and i busted my ass😂 excited to try again after seeing this vid
Heck yeah Ben! I'm so scared to try these thinking of slipping out heel side and smashing my shins into the rail lol
Get some shin guards
Looks like everyone is sponsored by Caliuma now 😂😂😂.
Thanks for this vid. Been trying to build up the confidence for these.
Just in time, I m trying to learn these
Having faith is the hardest part
Awesome content
I've slipped out every single time I've tried these. Round rails freak me out I just cant figure out the pinch
Lock the wheels in the bar, then pinch them with your heel... boom.
When i learnt them, i ollied on and then shift my trucks to cross lock in. Thats where you punch opposite side of each truck.
If you want to lock in any way you get on, you gotta be aware which side of the truck is touching the rail, if the toe side of the board and wheels are locked in, you balance your weight over your toes.
if you locked in with the heelside of the board and wheels, you balance your weight over your heels like in the video above.
I think learning all lockins helps, as some tricks require toe or heel side pinch and for those tricks youll have to balance on either your toes or heels.
I've always tried heelside but I put too much weight and I end up falling backwards. I just need to spend a whole day eating shit cause thats probably what its gonna take lol
@@benruiz3191 you may be leaning back too much thinking that's putting pressure on the heels. stay squared ontop of the rail & let your wheels lock in heel side. make sure you're staying crouched on the rail as well. if you try to stand up too fast it'll slip out every time.
Aye found the other channel. Subscribed
5050's on round rails have always been difficult for me. I can do them, just not always perfectly clean and locked in. Weird because I can do other basic grinds/slides just fine.
Finally got em !
JUST KEEP SKATING
Crazy that I’m
Now 21 and it’s been 10 years since I last skated… I started playing school sports! And now that I’m not playing ball anymore I came back home to tampa I grabbed my board off the wall got sum trucks grip tape and wheels! Was working at vans and I took advantage of the opportunity of getting free shoes and a discount on skate shop 🙃🫡so I got my board right and been hitting the bro bowl skating round onnthe ramps n poppin Ollie’s tryna get the kickflip back in motion and other tricks but it’s been a min and I am saying this because I live with the words just keep skating 💯 thank you for this😂💯
I will most definitely give this a shot next time I get to a flatbar. I hope I don't eat it completely.
dude awesome video could you do fs 180s or shuv-its next?
I see you're doing some testing on the Cariuma shoes. Cant wait for the review.
He already did a review on his other channel
That one park looked like a park I skated in van a while back
For me, once I learned how to 50-50 stall I went for it and found the faster I went the easier it was and after the first couple of bails my confidence was up and I more easily 50-50
I learned 5050s like 4-5months ago and can do 5-0, nose grind, nose slide and learning crook now and i can do some of em on a flatbar but never had the balls to try it on a roundbar
Good video! Out of my leagues, still...
i am very weird with rails, the ledge of my local park is practically a round rail since the coping is a round rail that pops up a lot more than the concrete, but there is a weird mental barrier that doesnt allow me to do any grind trick on any kind of rail, spetially since i am the kind of guy that don´t like gettting speed to do tricks.
The only round bar at my local park is knee high and it goes down a slope, wish me luck lol
I'm not sure I comprehend when you sleep, dude.
Yo Ben, when doing low flat bars, what messes people up is ollying too big and all that downward force coming down on the rail
I find the more force, the better. If you can dent the rail, you reeeeally lock in.
@@icorrectly youre full of shit.
@@BrendanBFree Nope. I'm related to Rodney Mullen, so I've got some insight on the matter.
@@icorrectly damn thats a good troll. MSM keep note.
@@icorrectly youre didnt learn that from mullen, if you did, he was trolling you.
hook ur foot with the heel off the edge of ur board when u lock in so u dont land on ur back
Sprained ankle says no
I saw your gow to ollie video but my back foot likes goes behind be instead of going up and do I slide first than pop or do them at the same time and when I pop is my back foot off the tail and any tips or how to pop the tail correctly and how do I get my ollies higher do I slide my front foot in a horizontal way or diagonally
When's the Ben Degros street part coming?
these kids bouta break a bone trying to lock on both heels
Also maybe easy/steezy/trendy tricks tutorials?
Thanks Ben. I ate shit too many times as a young’n so I avoid these now haha. I would love a frontside noseslide or front board tutorial. I have trouble with the finding the proper weight distribution. Always need to come out fakie for both. Cheers!
Which truck do you think locks onto these on round rails the best?
After he were saying about bending your knees it was like bam
i got the grind part down, i just do not know how to pop out of it
Can you do ledges next
I finally came over my fear of 50-50s on a round rails last weekend. What really helped me is putting the board on the rail and hopping on the rail with one foot first and then the second one to get a sense on how it feels to be on top of the rail. Dan Corrigan also has a usefull tutorial on this. You just gotta commit once! After that is opens up some doors in my opinion. For me it let to fs smith, which then again led to fs lipslide. Had so much fun.
Very good tutorial, but I am struggling with where to look when ollieing onto or especially over things. I find that if I look down at my board I can get a better ollie; as in higher and more comfortable. But it screws up my timing. Can anyone please give me some tips and advice? Thank you
typically you look where you want to go, not down at your board. for example - if you were going to grind a ledge, you could look at & aim for the ledge, not down at your board. sounds like you just need some practice to get more comfortable with it. i would suggest finding a small curb & practicing a few things on that. ollie on top of it, into a grind/stall, etc. practice & get really comfortable with that & i think youll be good to go
Fuck yessss Ben thank you for this video!!!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you thank youuuuu Ive wanted you to teach me this for a long time!!!
I do cross lock i feel like thats more safe
wait a minute are you in vancouver because i went to this skatepark before
Go fast Ben says, hi says the ground.
hi face to the ground
@@barondra38 lol I tried it right after was so pumped, and nope but I'm gonna get it.
What size skateboard do you ride
Need a trick tip for bs 50-50. Can't do a proper pop and lock in one anymore after a 3-year break.
I don’t understand how people say flat bars are easier. Round rails have a way more consistent friction(less stick or slide out potential) and they hurt a lot less to fall on(no sharp edges). Also more room for error when getting on like he said. And board slides you can almost roll your board up from an Ollie. You just need better balance when sliding is the only downside I guess.
Where is this park? it’s so pretty 🤩
I always thought flat bars were square because it's a flat surface, but I guess a round rail could be technically flat if there's no incline or decline.
I always either lock in or I fully slide out and eat shit lol
How many channels can you have?
me being deathly afraid of rails
I see you got the white Cariuma shoes, what they like dude?
Or do we have to wait for a review video coming soon? 😁😊
he already did one.
check the main channel
i love you
what grind would it be if you did the diagonal wheel pinch on 50 50s but instead you pinch in between your deck and your wheels, so both of your wheels are under the rail but your decks on top?
Either a smith or a feeble i think
@@niedrichfrietzsche941 nah its not those I checked. Also I mean like locked in under the rail, not just hanging off. I don't think its been done het
watch some gustav tonnesen parts he does fs 180s into them
@@Skateboardin1278 ok ill check it out
@@Skateboardin1278 Ok i whatched the parts and that's the first time I've ever seen anything like that. But its not exactly what I meant. It needs to be done on a rail with the diagonally facing wheels on their side locking in(under) on both sides of the rail
jordan peterson of skating
😂
One question Ben: what are thooooose
I have a problem, when i catch the rail and slice i cant to put my foot on the tail to out of the rail, can someone help me.
You got it now ?
@@Kash.mp3 not all the times i land it but i improved my position thinking that i need to do a manual or just trying in a curb to fall in the skate more in the taile, changing my jump to feel better.
Shoutout to the girl who rolled by the camera smiling ;)
I can do crooks ,lips ,I’ve done overcrooks,nose slides ,flip board slides ,noseblunts ,etc and I literally cannot 5050 on a round bar and it makes no fucking sense as to why I can’t do a 5050 on a rail but I can do all these other tricks. It pisses me off so I hope I can learn from this lol
Tried this 3 times almost died 😭
I locked in on my toeside...
Rails don't taste too well and now I can't skate
Do you have a 2nd bigger channel? I swear I've seen you before
yes, this is his other channel. Main one is Ben Degros
he also has a carpentry channel and a water polo channel
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It’s really hard to balance heelside I like to crosslock way more get way more locked in and more balanced
What do you mean?? Round rails are impossible to lock into because they let your board move too much
Fs flip
Bigger wheels and trucks and Cross pinching
Step one: sack up
Why in the world do I find these easy, also on down rails but I can’t seem to figure out bs feebles yet
When I learned them I just pretended I was doing a back 5-0 and leaned a little forward idk it helped me
@@woefulbeings1630 thanks for the tip, will try it out
teach me whit hard thigh truck
I can’t 50 round
Everybody is talking about the trick, but i couldn,t focus because of the kids and girl in the background