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Given potential Pacific war, it makes sense that the Navy might be the first to field. It might also help the Air Force have lessons learned before they move forward.
@@jloiben12well big sticks on Naval air platforms or on strategic bombers with the necessary software to integrate AIM 174s. The range means those launch platforms will be safe will data link from a stealth picket guides them in.
@@jloiben12 this is why we need to divert all of our tax usage to the industrial-military complex. screw the roads and hospitals, planes are hell of a lot cooler
@@cynthiaherbst3909 The F/A-XX is going to become operational in the 2030s. That is almost guaranteed to be too late for a war with China if there is one. Such a war is almost guaranteed to be a 2020s thing
Honestly if the FA-XX ends up being a good aircraft the air force should just use it as well. If the air force could swallow its pride and use the Phantom in the Cold War they can use this new aircraft too. Still not sure that the navy will be the first over the line though. Go team Tempest
@dgthe3 Possibly even handle rough fields, roadways etc. I have always felt that our attack and fighters should able to fly/fight from anywhere a C-130 can go. Yeah, I am weird like that.
@@GrigoriZhukovthat's the thinking behind JAS-39 and why Finland opted for F-18. Being able to operate fighters from roads is a massive advantage. Fighters shouldn't be afraid of a bit of dirt.
Why not use the B-21 as the "NGAD" for the air force. The Navy is always forward deployed and is size limited. The airforce doesn't need to worry about either of those. You could load up a B-21 with the new longer range air to air missiles. Then give it a RQ-180 and a couple loyal Wingman. Build 500 of them to do both bombing and air superiority.
The size limitation isn't much of an issue. Remember the Navy had no issue stuffing loads of F14s on their flight decks and that plane is a bus. And I'm fairly certain if it came to it the Navy wouldn't mind carrying less FAXX since it will be vastly more capable in an A2A role than the F18.
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That's because NGAD is already so ahead of everything else no other Air Force comes close, like we're already talking about 6th gen fighters and they haven't caught up to our 5th gen fighters yet so no need to use the big toys yet, being disappointed because your enemies are no match is a good problem to have
It makes sense you can only put around a 100 airframes on a carrier so it makes sense to put the best aircraft you can get when you have to deal with such a limited number of
There were thoughts of making a carrier version of the black widow/ gray ghost that looks similar. Just update the ram and add adaptive cycle engines to increase ferry range (which was already better than the craptor). The original airframe is about the same as the tomcat. Just imagine 😳
I think the USAF (if our government does the smart thing) will probably just adopt the F/A-XX it makes no sense to have two different 6th gen air superiority fighters, if it can land on a ship, it can land on a runway.
But they have differs use cases. Navy needs fold up wings to store more jets, but that limits max G forces. Also, Navy needs heavy duty landing gear which has the operative word “heavy.” Air Force doesn’t need folding wings so that it can be more maneuverable. Air Force can use lighter landing gear so that weight savings can be either faster, more fuel or more weapons. Combining both of those systems results in lots of trade offs resulting in a less efficient jet.
I worked on the JSF program that led to the development and deployment of the F-35 fighter. It was originally scheduled to deploy in 2008. It eventually started deploying 8 years later in low quantities in 2015 and the first mission capable squadron of the B models weren’t operation until 2018, a full 10 years after the original plan. That was 18 years after tue full scale development program was awarded. The F/A-XX is currently where the F-35 program was in 1995. It took Lockheed 23 years to complete operational test and field the first squadron. The F/A-XX concept is more complex than the F-35. I sincerely doubt the F/A-XX will deploy before the late 2040’s, if ever.
It's all about the aerodynamical limitations of a kite / flyig wind design: it works like a charm for bombers like B-2 Spirit / B-21 Raider.. but not for fighters, who need - at least for now - massive horizontal and vertical mobile control surfaces / empennage for the more needed "acrobatic" maneuverability. US Air Force can't compromise on that... but the US Navy can.
Well the Navy has to, often at a cost of internal payload. I believe in straight up air superiority designs too, because one day current stealth technologies won't be. It's an ever moving target. Then you need the speed and maneuverabilty of a base air superiority airframe.
I think they need a replacement for the F-22, or at least the ability to replace losses of the F-22. Since they wisely destroyed the production lines of the F-22 for security reasons an new plane is the way to go.
USAF ended up with the F-111 when the Navy backed out of the joint procurement, and got stuck with a bunch of design features that the Navy asked for but the AF didn't want.
@@kerbalairforce8802 … Secretary of Defense MacNamara dictated to the navy to buy the XF-111. As a fighter. The USAF wanted a bomber. At the time this was incompatible. The navy told Congress it wouldn’t work as a carrier based fighter. Much to MacNamara’s anger. In my 1975-2001 military service I never heard a kind word said of MacNamara. I did hear a lot negatives about him.
@@dustinmark6808 …we hope there won’t be. Remember after the USSR collapsed? Western Europe dismantled its militaries. They wish they hadn’t sold of most of their equipment. Don’t assume best case scenarios about future aggression
I would like to see Canada offer to help finance the project. 88 F35As are not enough and the F18s have worked well for us. The real concern with the F-35s was range, the FA-XX will probably be better for our arctic. Having a combination of both would be a huge improvement for the RCAF into the future and help lower the cost to the USN. NORAD is a concern for both countries, it's a strategic win for both Canada and the US. Probably wishful thinking though, considering our procurement process. In fact, considering our procurement process, I'd like them to just hand the money over, shut up and buy what comes out.
@@rodrigorincongarcia771 It is possible that they don't, but Canada is in a bit of a different situation that we are also in NORAD and 5 Eyes, not just any NATO country. I would like to see an even closer relationship, something like a NORAD but more all-encompassing down to the military-industrial base, with widespread tariffs as penalties to keep both sides (lets be honest, just Canada) on track. What is going on now is shameful.
@@canadianeh4792 Yes, but even with all of that, Canada was not considered as possible customers for F-22. Then again, I'm not sure keeping 2 different main fighters (one that can be exported and that can't) will be possible considering how expensive fighter planes have become so, who knows?
Depending on the spec of it, it wouldn't surprise me if the usaf also bought a version of this fighter. It would help keep costs down while giving a future replacement to the f22. With that being said, i have to wait for the Air Force review of its own while also waiting for more information to come out about this
I WOULD be surprised...since when does the military industrial complex wanna keep the costs down 😂 They'll throw Lockheed another 65 billion dollars for something slightly better
But Alex pointed out that the air force NGAD fighter would be built to replace the Raptor which almost only had a2a capabilities and a2g were taken over by other jets. The F/A-XX takes over the role of the Super Hornet which is a multi role fighter with a2a; a2g and even anti ship capabilities. All these capabilities will make the fighter more expensive and more complex and have downsides aswell which is why the airforce probably would rather want their own fighter that does not have a bunch of expensive and complex tech onboard that is less relevant that the originally intended role of pure Airsuperiority
But Alex pointed out that the air force NGAD fighter would be built to replace the Raptor which almost only had a2a capabilities and a2g were taken over by other jets. The F/A-XX takes over the role of the Super Hornet which is a multi role fighter with a2a; a2g and even anti ship capabilities. All these capabilities will make the fighter more expensive and more complex and have downsides aswell which is why the airforce probably would rather want their own fighter that does not have a bunch of expensive and complex tech onboard that is less relevant that the originally intended role of pure Airsuperiority
@angelaferkel7922 That isn't true. The f35 can do all of that, but it isn't super expensive. What matters is numbers built, which will increase if the airforce also buys it
A drone could turn in ways that favor the position of inlets in ways human pilots cannot without making their heads explode. So having them on top doesn’t mean turning performance needs to suffer, just turn in the “negative” direction.
There is no longer any mechanical connections needed for moving flight surfaces or anything now that everything is computerized and fly by wire, so you could put the cockpit/pilot chairs on a swivel mechanism and just spin the crew and the whole plane 180° to go from ultra stealth to dog fight mode if it was that big of a deal. Or do like the MIG-29 and have an alternate air path to the engines on the bottom that open during high angle of attack maneuvers so air can get to the engines regardless of how it is oriented.
18:42 Dang. Great video, Devil Dog. Any chance you're going to (or are able to) cover those planes with the internal air flow flight controls? That's badass! 🙂🐕🐕
The US Army just chose General Dynamics and Rheinmetall as finalists for the 4000 Bradley replacement IFVs (well, a year ago). Could you do a Firepower series video about this program, the two finalists and the other three that dropped out. Or more generally the current state of IFVs (Bradley, CV90, Puma, Lynx) and their most likely future. Maybe even including anti air IFVs like some CV90 variants and SkyRanger.
15:37 - So close... the Big Bird radar is the lower frequency scanning radar. It's the one on the trailer. The one on the mast is the tracking radar. Either a Flap Lid, Gravestone, or Tombstone radar for the S300 or S400 systems.
Not surprised, besides the Navy I’d argue needs priority anyway… due to carriers being the US’s main method of military power projection. The 15EX though…. Hell of a jet, 5th and 6th gen be damned, if it can detect from insane range at high altitude going screaming fast, it will have the magazine capacity of air to air weapons to give the middle finger to most everything. Hyper maneuverability is a cool party trick, low observability is too…. But I’d argue like 18-20 air to air weapons and insane range and detection coupled with Mach 2+ speeds don’t care… with these new radars, if it can see it, it best go cold and run away, if they can….a fusion of F15EX and F-35 could be very, very interesting.
True with 99% of the potential enemy aircraft that face the F-15EX However against a J-20 that is significantly less observable plus has better long range weapons (at the moment) i wouldnt say the F-15 EX would have an easy time I mean the J-20 lacks in some aspects for sure but if it can detect the very large RCS of the Eagle while still avoiding a reliable lock due to being stealthy enough (if) then it will have good chances with the long range weapons to strike and run off before the eagle could really lock on. But we dont know cuz the actual details for this are classified
F-15 is an evolutionary dead end. The moment you base anything on that, you're completely surrendering stealth. which means you aren't going to be operating it anywhere inside of hostile airspace. Look at why Russia doesn't fly its jets inside of Ukranian airspace, at present. And the more you hang off of it, the more unforgiving the resulting speed, agility and range penalties are going to be.
@@angelaferkel7922 We have longer range missiles getting ready to either start full scale production or get approval for full scale production, so I don't think it will be a problem for long.
A benefit of the modular approach to Next Gen aircraft is that the Navy can field a slightly compromised version of a 6th gen fighter, but will benefit from upgrades made to a slightly delayed Air Force version. Staggering the procurement and delivery dates will build in upgrades to major systems incrementally between aircraft allowing for iterative upgrades throughout both programs.
Having wingdrone backup should be priority because drones can make maneuvers and pull Gs than humans can't plus they act as a extra layer of protection for our maned aircraft. I hope the Navy gets this done as soon as possible. If the Airforce can't make up it's mind then maybe they can later settle for the Navy standard with what ever modifications they may need but I would think that anything that can take off and land on an aircraft carrier should have no problems operating in an Airforce role. That's my opinion but I am no expert.
My main worry is the logistics side for these drones for carrier operations. Do carriers have the space and operations capacity to launch and recover five times as many aircraft as they do now? Because ultimately, that's the kind of advantage you'd want having that kind of capability.
@@Hebdomad7 Well I think the argument can be had that the navy is ultimately working towards it..emals will eventually work as reliably as steam..along with much higher launch rates. Hangar and flight decks have increased in available working spaces.. movement of the island/ one less elevator..
@Hebdomad7 Yea that's why I believe we should look at drone carriers and that can be air and sea options and it all needs a lot of flexibility so it's totally inter as active. Lots of logistics and I agree that logistics is probably our biggest concern. We have the technology going pretty good but creating a working logistical model will be a challenge plus what do we add or take away. What is cost effective for what it does.
Maybe we should build solar powered stealth Zeppelin's? Make them capable of one hundred thousand feet. We could be right over them and they wouldn't even know.
Alex, I agree with your previous assessments: the Air Force should use the B-21 as a multi-role aircraft that includes air superiority. Dog fighting is a technique of the past. The Navy however does need that dedicated aircraft for all the points you made in this video.
The problem with the top altitude of a fighter plane is the Armstrong line at about 62,000 to 63000 feet where gasses leave the blood steam. Higher altitudes require pressure suits to keep the pilots alive (in a decompression in the case of a cockpit with pressurization).
Yes, and those pressure suits are a significant hassle for flight operations. Hooking up umbilicals and strapping in requires two ground(deck?) crew kneeling or lying on platforms, head and arms down into the cockpit. On a carrier that work would have to be done on the hangar deck. For the pilots when they are flying, everything is more difficult. They have less visibility, less dexterity (bulky gloves), and can't pull high Gs because the weight of the helmet will injure their necks.
At 11:31 SR-71 and U-2 The pilot flying that SR-71 had to be a totally awesome pilot, that plane is fixing to fall out of the sky in order to match what is probably the fastest speed that that U-2 can manage without ripping its wings off....
I met Colonell (retired at the time) Bob Gilliland when I was starting out in the USAF back in early 2000s. Had a full 15 minute conversation about him being the first person to fly the SR71 and his nervous he was. Told me it was not an easy plane to fly and it blew his mind once he pushed it's limits on test flights. He was such an interesting character and I loved his story. He also shared a story about one of the other test pilots who was still active duty and how he essentially gave up ever making 0-6 because he volunteered to be on the program. Gilliland was already retired by then with his bird but it was interesting to me how he expressed compassion for that other dudes career, not sure why the stuck with me. Sadly I think Gilliland passed away few years ago, but he flew each and every single SR71 ever built before the military got them delivered, so that must of been cool as hell.
I would be curious if a higher payload platform as such will be given the engine suite to go supersonic. Launching an Air to air missile at higher speed and altitude does help probability of kill a good bit.
@@cynthiaherbst3909Given the advances in engine tech and aerodynamics, a Tomcat-sized fighter packing next-gen adaptive-cycle engines should be capable of some truly staggering speeds.
@@griffinfaulkner3514 Make it a two seater while we're at it. The wiz especially these days has a role to play. From loyal wingmen, electronic warfare, and a whole lot of other fun systems. The pilots going to be busy enough doing pilot shit. You need another crew member to take the mental load off to handle all the other wizardry these new platforms will deliver.
That might be the way to go anyway. Let one service do the heavy lifting of development, then the following services can use it as a base platform to modify according to their specific set of needs.
I feel the decision for NGAD is clear for which company to pick, Boeing needs to prove that they are able to make safe and reliable craft again before they make a fighter jet. Sure, Lockheed would be doing the same thing they did with the Raptor, halting/slowing production of the F-35s, but we have made so many more of those than we did the Raptor, so I feel it would be okay to do this time around.
The Air Force’s NGAD reassessment can quickly be changed when the need arrives. Don’t forget the F-4 Phantom. A Navy design embraced by the Air Force. Just saying.
I know it's not as sexy but it's ALSO possible that the major milestones aren't performative at all but rather more about its modularity. Facts are, nearly ALL aircraft including the F-35 are dedicated platforms. This technical demonstrator could possibly be all about warm swapping components with PnP functionality. Such a feature would be groundbreaking, budget freeing by boosting serviceability, and upgradeability. This would increase flight hours, cheapen replacement parts, create a new standard guaranteeing it's service life by decades. That ALONE is def enough to get DoD money.
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So you don’t want content creators to get paid? It’s not like commercials or sponsors are a new thing - it’s been the norm ever since the radio was invented.
Hey the guy has to make money, and you can skip over this immediately if you want. And if you don't want to come back, then just don't. I can guarantee no one else will care or notice.
Do you really think he's going to stop getting paid because of your comment? If you really meant what you wrote you just wouldn't bother. You aren't going anywhere so just quit your itching 😂
China's aircraft SUCK. They use reverse engineered Russian engines, and their radar absorbent paint is not very good. Look at what Ukraine is doing with our old 1980's technology. China makes tanks that can't handle a cement curb and has main gun issues (like shells exploding in the barrel). China is a paper tiger with a failing economy, and cheap copies of inferior military technology. Even their Nuclear missiles can't be launched, because they didn't install hinges on the silo doors. Their new fighter will probably lose to a F-4 from the Vietnam war.
@@MotoroidARFC You are 100% correct. I worked on the manufacturing/engineering side of a US jet engine manufacturer, after working with several UK jet engines for 8 years, and I agree. I also have looked into the basic design of Russian/Chinese engines. Based on these designs, their maximum power/weight ratio just will never be able to supercruise. The Russin "stealth" SU-57 might have the same radar cross section as a Learjet. This is the base technology that the Chinese are starting at, and creative thought is not their thing.
Not much info this time around, basically just a re-hash of everything we already know (over-expanded and over-explained plus the history lesson to fill 22 min.) Not to sound harsh, I just value the new/cutting-edge content and breaking stories you often post.
The content of every subject that you have covered (at least those that I have seen) is excellent. You might consider having fewer cups of coffee before you put them together however.
My cousin used to work on Life Support systems on F18's and he said they retired his plane like 5 or 6 years ago. I thought he said that they were replaced by the F35 Lightnings though
I envision the unveiling of this jet coming off the end of an aircraft carrier, and immediately doing barrel rolls and arabatic maneuvers never seen before with a laser and the song, "I am titanium" playing in the background.
You do great work Alex. I would support you for removing comments that call out your need to advertise. You choose great responsible ways to advertise. Also just in case anyone was wondering I got a ground news subscription cause I wanna be informed like Alex H… get educated y’all. Some of you in the comment section seem to be lacking on that aspect of life…
Actually, it looks like he was on the rudder and the plane automatically transitioned from Air to Ground Ops mode by how you see the rudder go from left to straight then dive left as the brake mode turned on. Interesting stuff.
B21 with drone wingmen will outclass the FA-XX in the air superiority role. It and its drones will likely have smaller radar cross-sections, and can be loaded with more air to air missiles. But only the Navy’s FA-XX and its Navy variant drone wingmen can operate within the range of China’s extensive missile network. Not even Guam is safe. Good thing the B21 can fly from the other side of the Pacific. It makes perfect sense for the Airforce to spend more on the B21 and drone wingmen. Saturate the skies with drones I say. Saturation is making a return as the way of war.
I think this "Stealth" craze is getting out of hand. There are uses for high-speed, high-manoeuvrability non-stealth combat aircraft. Plug in some additional defence technologies and you have a lot of flexibility. Also the ability to remote pilot drones would be nice.
Could you do a video about the future of Shorad? Will short range air defense provided by the laser stryker? Will the Bradley replacement IFV XM30 function as an anti air cannon? Should the US look at the SkyRanger / Skynex / millenium gun system? And will there be a Stinger replacement with a better battery, targeting, and most importantly more affordable? Or is this affordable future the APKWS guidance upgrade for the cheap and plentiful Hydra 70mm rocket? Should we slap that on Avenger Hummvees? Or IRIS-T? And how are M-shorad Strykers doing? The new EAGLS?!
Are you a leading shareholder in General Dynamics? You keep posting the exact same thing on every one of Sandboxx’s posts. Chill on dude. Alex will cover it if it has merit.
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The F-4 Phantom started from a carrier fighter to a multirole, multiservice and multinational success. The US Navy XX could give the USAF a useful option. And with a large size the XX could have considerable room for growth and conversion to different roles. The XX has more potential for a dual service role with 2 engines and large airframe with a less restrictive STOVL option. When will the US military require a hybrid engine fighter.
Always love your presentations. However, my own observation, since the 60's when I came of age, is that the Navy never actually exceeds what the Air Force can do.
the big question the navy needs to consider is whether the Ford-class can properly maintain whatever design they choose. stealth aircraft (even the F-35) need more intensive maintenance to maintain their low observability, and that means more support equipment and more maintenance time. You wouldn't want to keep these things parked topside 24/7, and the hangar only has so much space
If Northrop Grumman gets the F/A XX contract they should call it the Tomcat II. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter which aerospace company gets it, as long as the best jet is chosen. Thank you for this video of air power and sea power 👍
The altitude envelope of jets is a function of where they'll be optimized for efficiency, bc you can't be optimal for all altitudes, and more importantly ... is really about the life support systems: As in, much higher than 60,000' and you need a pressure suit or a cabin that can be absolutely relied on to provide cabin pressure that's safe for the human.
Another great video. It seems to me the need for speed and maneuverability for range and stealth this screams just makes one for both the Navy and the Airforce Plus, I see them more as QBs vs actual engagement with the onset of CCAs
I don't really understand why a Navy jet isn't good enough for everyone else to basically just use. Marines don't need this VTOL nonsense or their own jets at all, they can get coverage from Navy or Airforce. If it can take of fand land from a carrier it can take off and land on an airfield. You don't need massive payloads for stealth fighters anymore thanks to the missle truck concept that can launch from well outside of enemy range. The entire concept of separate branches is outdated and needs to end. Sure we can keep the legacy aspects and guys on ships can wear blue and guys on the ground can wear tan and call themselves army or navy, but all the communications, chain of command, and most importantly budget should be one military force. We've known since WWII that combined forces is the best way to conduct operations and the more you silo off the groups the harder that is.
Is there a filter being used? Or wich super hornets are featured in this video they look darker grey then all the others ive seen and look super beefed up I really like it.
Any aircraft now entering into production is likely at least 10-15 years behind what is technologically possible and currently being tested. By the time everything is set up and in place to start production the technology is no longer current. Which is why it makes sense to limit how many of any one type of plane are purchased to leave room for the next generation and to make any platform easy to upgrade.
Who can know? There's no program-of-record because it will be an evolved long-range F/A-35D strike-fighter. Sorry to spoil the fun re spooky NGAD speculation. Australia currently uses the same strikefighter USN uses, and that was expanded to Growler. F/A-18F & E/A-18G both need to be replaced. NGJ is also being acquired by RAAF and the NGJ introduction is planned for 2032. Which fits perfectly. The planned replacement was announced & budgeted for during 2019. Which was a very interesting, given there was no aircraft in sight that could do it, except a new USN F/A-XX. IMO this is the reason Australia cancelled the F-35A's acquisition at 72 airframes, instead of the "up to 100" F-35A that was planned. Which was mystifying. The reason given at the time was RAAF was looking forward to buying "new technology". This explains it. RAAF's planning to acquire around 48 of these new USN aircraft, to fill both Strike and EA roles, because the USN is doing the exact same thing. Because of NGJ, whatever USN replaces Growler with, RAAF will do the same. The F-35 program-of-record already exists as does the aircraft and its airworthiness certificate, all of which can be added to. So the advanced 'new-gen', new-technology aircraft will be an evolved F/A-35D, and E/A-35E. These will incorporate improvements, advancements and role optimizations that are based on the F-35C airframe. They will most likely include first use of a 6th-gen AETP engine for extended range and loiter, and provide air-supremacy edge and better altitude performance, including supercruise and kinematic advantage. AETP will also reduce the drag impost of carrying NGJ on an E/A variant, and the improved altitude performance will increase NGJ footprint performance, and its cooling. AETP: "... In 2016, the Adaptive Engine Transition Program (AETP) was launched with the goal of developing and testing adaptive engines for the future sixth generation fighter programs, Penetrating Counter Air (PCA) or Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) for USAF, and F/A-XX for US Navy, as well as potential re-engining of the F-35. The program assigned the new designations XA100 for General Electric's design and XA101 for Pratt & Whitney's. ..."
Above all else, in a near peer conflict you need volume of supply of airframes, because you will have substantial losses if you have to fight hard against an opponent with substantial stealth, counter stealth, anti-carrier, anti-AWACS capacity.
Wouldn't surprise me. A-6F, A-12, Zumwalt DDG, Little Crappy Ships, Constellation FFG, Seawolf SSN, 155mm Gun, Direct Energy Weapons. The Navy doesn't do well getting most of these platforms or getting them with expected capabilities.
Upper surface inlets can still be effective at high AOA but it takes some careful tailoring of aerodynamics and airframe design. One of Northrop's studies leading to the final YF-23 configuration incorporated these features.
There is a curiosity about the progress in developing ceramic stealth coatings that can take the heat of supersonic flight. And I cannot resist a pun: The dark horse in the race to power the next generation is Hermeus. Take the concept of the J-58 and make bolt-on kit for new engines - then maybe add thrust vectoring just to prove you can.
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It seems they're only offering 40% off.
Same here.
Hey how about Japans 6th Gen
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@@russelbrown6275wasn’t the UK involved in that as well 😂
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Given potential Pacific war, it makes sense that the Navy might be the first to field. It might also help the Air Force have lessons learned before they move forward.
While true, the most likely time for a pacific war is far earlier than the F/A-XX is likely going to be ready for operations, let alone had in numbers
@@jloiben12well big sticks on Naval air platforms or on strategic bombers with the necessary software to integrate AIM 174s. The range means those launch platforms will be safe will data link from a stealth picket guides them in.
@@jloiben12 this is why we need to divert all of our tax usage to the industrial-military complex. screw the roads and hospitals, planes are hell of a lot cooler
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The F/A-XX is going to become operational in the 2030s. That is almost guaranteed to be too late for a war with China if there is one. Such a war is almost guaranteed to be a 2020s thing
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Nice meme
Honestly if the FA-XX ends up being a good aircraft the air force should just use it as well. If the air force could swallow its pride and use the Phantom in the Cold War they can use this new aircraft too.
Still not sure that the navy will be the first over the line though. Go team Tempest
There might be different needs.
@@ThirdLawPair A Navy jet should work reasonably well as a basis for an Air Force jet. The reverse is rarely true though.
@dgthe3 Possibly even handle rough fields, roadways etc. I have always felt that our attack and fighters should able to fly/fight from anywhere a C-130 can go. Yeah, I am weird like that.
Sounds like an ace combat plane
@@GrigoriZhukovthat's the thinking behind JAS-39 and why Finland opted for F-18. Being able to operate fighters from roads is a massive advantage. Fighters shouldn't be afraid of a bit of dirt.
Why not use the B-21 as the "NGAD" for the air force. The Navy is always forward deployed and is size limited. The airforce doesn't need to worry about either of those. You could load up a B-21 with the new longer range air to air missiles. Then give it a RQ-180 and a couple loyal Wingman. Build 500 of them to do both bombing and air superiority.
US Air Force is studying this option seriously
Navy has carriers, Air Force does not. AF probably will lean into B21 bases , Navy leans into FA-XXthat can launch from carriers
The size limitation isn't much of an issue. Remember the Navy had no issue stuffing loads of F14s on their flight decks and that plane is a bus. And I'm fairly certain if it came to it the Navy wouldn't mind carrying less FAXX since it will be vastly more capable in an A2A role than the F18.
B-21 is even more expensive than NGAD although its already in production which is a major plus
Sounds genius to me...
Brother Alex, this is one of my favorite shows to watch. You are so well studied and informed. Your voice is one of a kind that I would recognize anywhere! Keep up the great work!
It’s kinda disappointing that the best strategy for the air force is less expensive saturation warfare. Ngad would be so sick.
Yup basically keeping your experienced guys alive is a massive advantage that no army can afford to lose
Maybe they have inside info into another program
Could be they want to wait for the tech to mature before commiting to their next world beater, while filling the gap with drones in the mean time.
That's because NGAD is already so ahead of everything else no other Air Force comes close, like we're already talking about 6th gen fighters and they haven't caught up to our 5th gen fighters yet so no need to use the big toys yet, being disappointed because your enemies are no match is a good problem to have
It makes sense you can only put around a 100 airframes on a carrier so it makes sense to put the best aircraft you can get when you have to deal with such a limited number of
I am now wondering if Northrop/Grumman knew something when it decided to drop out of the Air Force NGAD program.
smartest comment here.
The renders look like an FY-23 had a love child with a FA-18
I honestly had the same thought ! Lol
There were thoughts of making a carrier version of the black widow/ gray ghost that looks similar. Just update the ram and add adaptive cycle engines to increase ferry range (which was already better than the craptor). The original airframe is about the same as the tomcat. Just imagine 😳
The fiscal year 2023? Oh no!
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I've been wondering about this very issue since the USAF decided to reassess the NGAD program. Thanks so much Alex!
I think the USAF (if our government does the smart thing) will probably just adopt the F/A-XX it makes no sense to have two different 6th gen air superiority fighters, if it can land on a ship, it can land on a runway.
@@madkabal yea I agree but the government tends do do the wrong thing like not have guns on fighters in Vietnam! That worked so well lol
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Got to keep all the vendors in business. A lot of politics involved.
My thought exactly. But there are more powerful forces than logic and common sense at work here.
But they have differs use cases. Navy needs fold up wings to store more jets, but that limits max G forces. Also, Navy needs heavy duty landing gear which has the operative word “heavy.” Air Force doesn’t need folding wings so that it can be more maneuverable. Air Force can use lighter landing gear so that weight savings can be either faster, more fuel or more weapons. Combining both of those systems results in lots of trade offs resulting in a less efficient jet.
Navy is the tip of the spear in the Pacific. Need more range . Dad worked on Grumman planes
Navy is our first defense they gotta get past it and the coast gaurd. So yeah it needs alot of funding.
The navy will have a better fighter than the Air Force for the first time since the f22 entered service if this succeeds.
Hopefully the air force just gets in on the program....
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I worked on the JSF program that led to the development and deployment of the F-35 fighter. It was originally scheduled to deploy in 2008. It eventually started deploying 8 years later in low quantities in 2015 and the first mission capable squadron of the B models weren’t operation until 2018, a full 10 years after the original plan. That was 18 years after tue full scale development program was awarded.
The F/A-XX is currently where the F-35 program was in 1995. It took Lockheed 23 years to complete operational test and field the first squadron. The F/A-XX concept is more complex than the F-35. I sincerely doubt the F/A-XX will deploy before the late 2040’s, if ever.
Alex, I believe the F-16 was actually the first Fighter to be able to switch between Air to Air and Ground Attack with a flip of a switch
It's all about the aerodynamical limitations of a kite / flyig wind design: it works like a charm for bombers like B-2 Spirit / B-21 Raider.. but not for fighters, who need - at least for now - massive horizontal and vertical mobile control surfaces / empennage for the more needed "acrobatic" maneuverability.
US Air Force can't compromise on that... but the US Navy can.
Well the Navy has to, often at a cost of internal payload.
I believe in straight up air superiority designs too, because one day current stealth technologies won't be. It's an ever moving target. Then you need the speed and maneuverabilty of a base air superiority airframe.
That's what got the A-12 avenger program cancelled. It was a Navy program basically a mini B-2
As much as the USAF hates buying a “navy” aircraft, do they have a choice. Assuming they need a new 6th generation fighter.
I think they need a replacement for the F-22, or at least the ability to replace losses of the F-22. Since they wisely destroyed the production lines of the F-22 for security reasons an new plane is the way to go.
USAF ended up with the F-111 when the Navy backed out of the joint procurement, and got stuck with a bunch of design features that the Navy asked for but the AF didn't want.
@@kerbalairforce8802 … Secretary of Defense MacNamara dictated to the navy to buy the XF-111. As a fighter. The USAF wanted a bomber. At the time this was incompatible. The navy told Congress it wouldn’t work as a carrier based fighter. Much to MacNamara’s anger. In my 1975-2001 military service I never heard a kind word said of MacNamara. I did hear a lot negatives about him.
@@Idahoguy10157 really no threats anymore that justify it
@@dustinmark6808 …we hope there won’t be. Remember after the USSR collapsed? Western Europe dismantled its militaries. They wish they hadn’t sold of most of their equipment. Don’t assume best case scenarios about future aggression
I would like to see Canada offer to help finance the project. 88 F35As are not enough and the F18s have worked well for us. The real concern with the F-35s was range, the FA-XX will probably be better for our arctic. Having a combination of both would be a huge improvement for the RCAF into the future and help lower the cost to the USN. NORAD is a concern for both countries, it's a strategic win for both Canada and the US.
Probably wishful thinking though, considering our procurement process. In fact, considering our procurement process, I'd like them to just hand the money over, shut up and buy what comes out.
How close do you think is Canada from getting rid of it's leftist psycho govt.?
Would USA accept a foreign partner? Remember, F-22 was never expected to be used by any ally, only USA.
@@rodrigorincongarcia771 It is possible that they don't, but Canada is in a bit of a different situation that we are also in NORAD and 5 Eyes, not just any NATO country.
I would like to see an even closer relationship, something like a NORAD but more all-encompassing down to the military-industrial base, with widespread tariffs as penalties to keep both sides (lets be honest, just Canada) on track. What is going on now is shameful.
@@canadianeh4792 Yes, but even with all of that, Canada was not considered as possible customers for F-22. Then again, I'm not sure keeping 2 different main fighters (one that can be exported and that can't) will be possible considering how expensive fighter planes have become so, who knows?
Depending on the spec of it, it wouldn't surprise me if the usaf also bought a version of this fighter. It would help keep costs down while giving a future replacement to the f22. With that being said, i have to wait for the Air Force review of its own while also waiting for more information to come out about this
I WOULD be surprised...since when does the military industrial complex wanna keep the costs down 😂
They'll throw Lockheed another 65 billion dollars for something slightly better
But Alex pointed out that the air force NGAD fighter would be built to replace the Raptor which almost only had a2a capabilities and a2g were taken over by other jets.
The F/A-XX takes over the role of the Super Hornet which is a multi role fighter with a2a; a2g and even anti ship capabilities. All these capabilities will make the fighter more expensive and more complex and have downsides aswell which is why the airforce probably would rather want their own fighter that does not have a bunch of expensive and complex tech onboard that is less relevant that the originally intended role of pure Airsuperiority
But Alex pointed out that the air force NGAD fighter would be built to replace the Raptor which almost only had a2a capabilities and a2g were taken over by other jets.
The F/A-XX takes over the role of the Super Hornet which is a multi role fighter with a2a; a2g and even anti ship capabilities. All these capabilities will make the fighter more expensive and more complex and have downsides aswell which is why the airforce probably would rather want their own fighter that does not have a bunch of expensive and complex tech onboard that is less relevant that the originally intended role of pure Airsuperiority
@angelaferkel7922 That isn't true. The f35 can do all of that, but it isn't super expensive. What matters is numbers built, which will increase if the airforce also buys it
A drone could turn in ways that favor the position of inlets in ways human pilots cannot without making their heads explode. So having them on top doesn’t mean turning performance needs to suffer, just turn in the “negative” direction.
There is no longer any mechanical connections needed for moving flight surfaces or anything now that everything is computerized and fly by wire, so you could put the cockpit/pilot chairs on a swivel mechanism and just spin the crew and the whole plane 180° to go from ultra stealth to dog fight mode if it was that big of a deal. Or do like the MIG-29 and have an alternate air path to the engines on the bottom that open during high angle of attack maneuvers so air can get to the engines regardless of how it is oriented.
A video about the X65 and active flow control would be cool.
look at the F16xl, the delta wing gave it 40%more fuel and a few more hard points which was a killer of a plane that we never got.
Rumours was that it was meant to be a 'competitor ' for the F15E Strike Eagle. Reason was that the F16XL has one engine and the roll rate is lesser.
18:42 Dang. Great video, Devil Dog.
Any chance you're going to (or are able to) cover those planes with the internal air flow flight controls? That's badass! 🙂🐕🐕
Chairforce gotta cut that steak and lobster dinner out to make that happen.
Tell me you're bitter about not choosing the Air force without telling me you're bitter about not choosing the Air force. 😂
@@crazestyle83its a joke, calm down
Alex, thank you for offering to cover this topic! Digging the commentary below you have inspired! Damn refreshing and informative, Chat! 👍
The US Army just chose General Dynamics and Rheinmetall as finalists for the 4000 Bradley replacement IFVs (well, a year ago).
Could you do a Firepower series video about this program, the two finalists and the other three that dropped out. Or more generally the current state of IFVs (Bradley, CV90, Puma, Lynx) and their most likely future. Maybe even including anti air IFVs like some CV90 variants and SkyRanger.
I see you in every comment section and every time I do I hope that he sees your comment cause I’d really like to see the same videos.
I'm getting educated and informed just by being subscribed to your channel. Thank you so much. Greetings from Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea.
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15:37 - So close... the Big Bird radar is the lower frequency scanning radar. It's the one on the trailer. The one on the mast is the tracking radar. Either a Flap Lid, Gravestone, or Tombstone radar for the S300 or S400 systems.
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You’ll have a loyal wingman! In the Navy!
You’ll have a stealth fighter! In the Navy!
Thanks Alex for the update!
Not surprised, besides the Navy I’d argue needs priority anyway… due to carriers being the US’s main method of military power projection. The 15EX though…. Hell of a jet, 5th and 6th gen be damned, if it can detect from insane range at high altitude going screaming fast, it will have the magazine capacity of air to air weapons to give the middle finger to most everything. Hyper maneuverability is a cool party trick, low observability is too…. But I’d argue like 18-20 air to air weapons and insane range and detection coupled with Mach 2+ speeds don’t care… with these new radars, if it can see it, it best go cold and run away, if they can….a fusion of F15EX and F-35 could be very, very interesting.
I prefer keeping 5th gen in their given as you mentioned the F35 sensor suite, the scope, to data link the missile truck of the F15EX, the rifle
True with 99% of the potential enemy aircraft that face the F-15EX
However against a J-20 that is significantly less observable plus has better long range weapons (at the moment) i wouldnt say the F-15 EX would have an easy time
I mean the J-20 lacks in some aspects for sure but if it can detect the very large RCS of the Eagle while still avoiding a reliable lock due to being stealthy enough (if) then it will have good chances with the long range weapons to strike and run off before the eagle could really lock on. But we dont know cuz the actual details for this are classified
F-15 is an evolutionary dead end. The moment you base anything on that, you're completely surrendering stealth. which means you aren't going to be operating it anywhere inside of hostile airspace. Look at why Russia doesn't fly its jets inside of Ukranian airspace, at present.
And the more you hang off of it, the more unforgiving the resulting speed, agility and range penalties are going to be.
@@angelaferkel7922 We have longer range missiles getting ready to either start full scale production or get approval for full scale production, so I don't think it will be a problem for long.
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A benefit of the modular approach to Next Gen aircraft is that the Navy can field a slightly compromised version of a 6th gen fighter, but will benefit from upgrades made to a slightly delayed Air Force version.
Staggering the procurement and delivery dates will build in upgrades to major systems incrementally between aircraft allowing for iterative upgrades throughout both programs.
Having wingdrone backup should be priority because drones can make maneuvers and pull Gs than humans can't plus they act as a extra layer of protection for our maned aircraft. I hope the Navy gets this done as soon as possible. If the Airforce can't make up it's mind then maybe they can later settle for the Navy standard with what ever modifications they may need but I would think that anything that can take off and land on an aircraft carrier should have no problems operating in an Airforce role. That's my opinion but I am no expert.
My main worry is the logistics side for these drones for carrier operations. Do carriers have the space and operations capacity to launch and recover five times as many aircraft as they do now?
Because ultimately, that's the kind of advantage you'd want having that kind of capability.
@@Hebdomad7 Well I think the argument can be had that the navy is ultimately working towards it..emals will eventually work as reliably as steam..along with much higher launch rates. Hangar and flight decks have increased in available working spaces.. movement of the island/ one less elevator..
@Hebdomad7 Yea that's why I believe we should look at drone carriers and that can be air and sea options and it all needs a lot of flexibility so it's totally inter as active. Lots of logistics and I agree that logistics is probably our biggest concern. We have the technology going pretty good but creating a working logistical model will be a challenge plus what do we add or take away. What is cost effective for what it does.
2:15 I believe you do use Ground News, but if it flys you are the first one to ask, I think it's better.
Thanks for the update
I would guess that the broken records might be more like battlefield management like F35 where its the number of targets engaged and destroyed.
With AI drone wingmen, I can’t help but think of that old sci-fi movie, Stealth.
Good analysis, Alex.
Maybe we should build solar powered stealth Zeppelin's? Make them capable of one hundred thousand feet. We could be right over them and they wouldn't even know.
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FY-23 Naval edition would have been sweet. Such long range, and F-117 style exhaust
Can’t wait for the Air Force’s NGAD: the KC/RQ/F/A/B-21
The new jack-of-all-trades platform
Alex, I agree with your previous assessments: the Air Force should use the B-21 as a multi-role aircraft that includes air superiority. Dog fighting is a technique of the past. The Navy however does need that dedicated aircraft for all the points you made in this video.
I have a feeling our adversarys will be getting up to date info on our military planning advancements come January 20th .
The problem with the top altitude of a fighter plane is the Armstrong line at about 62,000 to 63000 feet where gasses leave the blood steam. Higher altitudes require pressure suits to keep the pilots alive (in a decompression in the case of a cockpit with pressurization).
Yes, and those pressure suits are a significant hassle for flight operations. Hooking up umbilicals and strapping in requires two ground(deck?) crew kneeling or lying on platforms, head and arms down into the cockpit. On a carrier that work would have to be done on the hangar deck. For the pilots when they are flying, everything is more difficult. They have less visibility, less dexterity (bulky gloves), and can't pull high Gs because the weight of the helmet will injure their necks.
I would argue that the navy needs them more anyway. They are our forward arm and how the US projects power into the hottest zones on short notice.
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SR-71 and U-2
The pilot flying that SR-71 had to be a totally awesome pilot, that plane is fixing to fall out of the sky in order to match what is probably the fastest speed that that U-2 can manage without ripping its wings off....
I met Colonell (retired at the time) Bob Gilliland when I was starting out in the USAF back in early 2000s. Had a full 15 minute conversation about him being the first person to fly the SR71 and his nervous he was. Told me it was not an easy plane to fly and it blew his mind once he pushed it's limits on test flights. He was such an interesting character and I loved his story.
He also shared a story about one of the other test pilots who was still active duty and how he essentially gave up ever making 0-6 because he volunteered to be on the program.
Gilliland was already retired by then with his bird but it was interesting to me how he expressed compassion for that other dudes career, not sure why the stuck with me.
Sadly I think Gilliland passed away few years ago, but he flew each and every single SR71 ever built before the military got them delivered, so that must of been cool as hell.
My guess is that it is going to be a large aircraft that can fit the AIM-174 in the internal weapons bay and be optimized for BVR.
I would be curious if a higher payload platform as such will be given the engine suite to go supersonic. Launching an Air to air missile at higher speed and altitude does help probability of kill a good bit.
@@cynthiaherbst3909Given the advances in engine tech and aerodynamics, a Tomcat-sized fighter packing next-gen adaptive-cycle engines should be capable of some truly staggering speeds.
A new fleet fighter
@@griffinfaulkner3514 that would certainly be a good asset to have especially if you don't have to sacrifice stealth if airspace is contested.
@@griffinfaulkner3514 Make it a two seater while we're at it. The wiz especially these days has a role to play. From loyal wingmen, electronic warfare, and a whole lot of other fun systems. The pilots going to be busy enough doing pilot shit. You need another crew member to take the mental load off to handle all the other wizardry these new platforms will deliver.
That might be the way to go anyway. Let one service do the heavy lifting of development, then the following services can use it as a base platform to modify according to their specific set of needs.
its not the USAF vs another country, its the USAF vs USN for the jet race
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I feel the decision for NGAD is clear for which company to pick, Boeing needs to prove that they are able to make safe and reliable craft again before they make a fighter jet. Sure, Lockheed would be doing the same thing they did with the Raptor, halting/slowing production of the F-35s, but we have made so many more of those than we did the Raptor, so I feel it would be okay to do this time around.
The Air Force’s NGAD reassessment can quickly be changed when the need arrives. Don’t forget the F-4 Phantom. A Navy design embraced by the Air Force. Just saying.
forced on the AF by the secdef by that jackass mcnamara.
Great coverage, thank you
FIRST!!! 😁😁😁 and for the record... AF pilots and planes are bangers. But the Navy is just a different animal to all others!
Yeah, substandard!
I know it's not as sexy but it's ALSO possible that the major milestones aren't performative at all but rather more about its modularity. Facts are, nearly ALL aircraft including the F-35 are dedicated platforms. This technical demonstrator could possibly be all about warm swapping components with PnP functionality.
Such a feature would be groundbreaking, budget freeing by boosting serviceability, and upgradeability. This would increase flight hours, cheapen replacement parts, create a new standard guaranteeing it's service life by decades. That ALONE is def enough to get DoD money.
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In reality, the Navy needs 6th Gen before the Airforce does. The Navy operates in vast spaces and areas with little to no "cover" (open oceans).
I'm just gonna end up not bothering with videos anymore if this ground news crap keeps being pushed down my throat. I got RUclips Premium so I wouldn't have these things forced on me.
If a RUclipsr is advertising it, you know it's a scam.
So you don’t want content creators to get paid? It’s not like commercials or sponsors are a new thing - it’s been the norm ever since the radio was invented.
Hey the guy has to make money, and you can skip over this immediately if you want. And if you don't want to come back, then just don't. I can guarantee no one else will care or notice.
Do you really think he's going to stop getting paid because of your comment? If you really meant what you wrote you just wouldn't bother. You aren't going anywhere so just quit your itching 😂
@RedTail1-1 I swear people like you need to learn how to use the time bar . It isnt hard and only takes a few seconds to skip.🙄.
What about scaling back on the “Do everything F-15 EX” I would like more on that story before hearing about “ a yet to be prototyped dream machine”.
Meanwhile China just released their latest copy of a jet we began developing over 2 decades ago.
China's aircraft SUCK. They use reverse engineered Russian engines, and their radar absorbent paint is not very good. Look at what Ukraine is doing with our old 1980's technology. China makes tanks that can't handle a cement curb and has main gun issues (like shells exploding in the barrel). China is a paper tiger with a failing economy, and cheap copies of inferior military technology. Even their Nuclear missiles can't be launched, because they didn't install hinges on the silo doors. Their new fighter will probably lose to a F-4 from the Vietnam war.
They're kinda behind given most western countries capable of making 6th gen are now developing 6th gen
The ability to manufacture specific materials, like RAM and metals for turbine blades, is their real obstacle.
Well theirs hasn't crashed repeatedly yet so there's that. They also have J-xx supposedly showing at zhuhai right now, some pics out.
@@MotoroidARFC You are 100% correct. I worked on the manufacturing/engineering side of a US jet engine manufacturer, after working with several UK jet engines for 8 years, and I agree. I also have looked into the basic design of Russian/Chinese engines. Based on these designs, their maximum power/weight ratio just will never be able to supercruise. The Russin "stealth" SU-57 might have the same radar cross section as a Learjet. This is the base technology that the Chinese are starting at, and creative thought is not their thing.
Love you channel!
Not much info this time around, basically just a re-hash of everything we already know (over-expanded and over-explained plus the history lesson to fill 22 min.) Not to sound harsh, I just value the new/cutting-edge content and breaking stories you often post.
The content of every subject that you have covered (at least those that I have seen) is excellent. You might consider having fewer cups of coffee before you put them together however.
My cousin used to work on Life Support systems on F18's and he said they retired his plane like 5 or 6 years ago. I thought he said that they were replaced by the F35 Lightnings though
Legacy Hornets?
7:16, is that also the corridor used by maxwell smart?
I envision the unveiling of this jet coming off the end of an aircraft carrier, and immediately doing barrel rolls and arabatic maneuvers never seen before with a laser and the song, "I am titanium" playing in the background.
bruh the FAxx is just a FA-18 Super Hornet with Sducts and RAM...which is lowkey brilliant.
You do great work Alex. I would support you for removing comments that call out your need to advertise. You choose great responsible ways to advertise.
Also just in case anyone was wondering I got a ground news subscription cause I wanna be informed like Alex H… get educated y’all. Some of you in the comment section seem to be lacking on that aspect of life…
Not just the better fighter. But the fighter that better affects the battle space. Because production volume and fleet readiness are a huge variable
1:01 - it looks like that pilot grabbed a whole foot full of left brake by the way it dove down and left. That would have been a tad bit scary.
Actually, it looks like he was on the rudder and the plane automatically transitioned from Air to Ground Ops mode by how you see the rudder go from left to straight then dive left as the brake mode turned on. Interesting stuff.
15:41 that is definitely right above Burke airport in Cleveland…
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B21 with drone wingmen will outclass the FA-XX in the air superiority role. It and its drones will likely have smaller radar cross-sections, and can be loaded with more air to air missiles.
But only the Navy’s FA-XX and its Navy variant drone wingmen can operate within the range of China’s extensive missile network. Not even Guam is safe.
Good thing the B21 can fly from the other side of the Pacific.
It makes perfect sense for the Airforce to spend more on the B21 and drone wingmen. Saturate the skies with drones I say. Saturation is making a return as the way of war.
I think this "Stealth" craze is getting out of hand. There are uses for high-speed, high-manoeuvrability non-stealth combat aircraft. Plug in some additional defence technologies and you have a lot of flexibility. Also the ability to remote pilot drones would be nice.
Great work, as always
A navy brainwashed dream.
Mr Holland's did you ever win that award for that video you made?🏆?
Thanking for sharing your wealth of knowledge. Much appreciated!
I truly hope that our department of defense will keep the information about this airframe top secret and classified.
Could you do a video about the future of Shorad?
Will short range air defense provided by the laser stryker? Will the Bradley replacement IFV XM30 function as an anti air cannon? Should the US look at the SkyRanger / Skynex / millenium gun system? And will there be a Stinger replacement with a better battery, targeting, and most importantly more affordable? Or is this affordable future the APKWS guidance upgrade for the cheap and plentiful Hydra 70mm rocket? Should we slap that on Avenger Hummvees? Or IRIS-T? And how are M-shorad Strykers doing? The new EAGLS?!
Are you a leading shareholder in General Dynamics? You keep posting the exact same thing on every one of Sandboxx’s posts. Chill on dude. Alex will cover it if it has merit.
Mr. Hollings, thank you for turning me on to Ground News. I don't need the "blindspot" feature so much because major media is already leaning so far to the left, it's about to topple over. But I do depend on the ratings for each article ranging from left to center and then to right. And I can seek out articles on the right which are what I'm more interested in anyhow. Ground even shows up on my Apple watch, lol! Anyway, I heard it from you first, then I started to hear about it on the radio. I just stick with the free plan for now, but when I'm ready to jump up to a paid plan, I'll check for discounts from you.
11:16 this is the most spectacular Lockheed Martin Ad
The F-4 Phantom started from a carrier fighter to a multirole, multiservice and multinational success. The US Navy XX could give the USAF a useful option. And with a large size the XX could have considerable room for growth and conversion to different roles. The XX has more potential for a dual service role with 2 engines and large airframe with a less restrictive STOVL option. When will the US military require a hybrid engine fighter.
Always love your presentations. However, my own observation, since the 60's when I came of age, is that the Navy never actually exceeds what the Air Force can do.
the big question the navy needs to consider is whether the Ford-class can properly maintain whatever design they choose. stealth aircraft (even the F-35) need more intensive maintenance to maintain their low observability, and that means more support equipment and more maintenance time. You wouldn't want to keep these things parked topside 24/7, and the hangar only has so much space
If Northrop Grumman gets the F/A XX contract they should call it the Tomcat II. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter which aerospace company gets it, as long as the best jet is chosen. Thank you for this video of air power and sea power 👍
The altitude envelope of jets is a function of where they'll be optimized for efficiency, bc you can't be optimal for all altitudes, and more importantly ... is really about the life support systems: As in, much higher than 60,000' and you need a pressure suit or a cabin that can be absolutely relied on to provide cabin pressure that's safe for the human.
Another great video. It seems to me the need for speed and maneuverability for range and stealth this screams just makes one for both the Navy and the Airforce Plus, I see them more as QBs vs actual engagement with the onset of CCAs
Great job on this video! 👍🏽🍻🎧
GO Navy GO! After this their next projects should be a modern airship drone carrier and then a spaceship!
I don't really understand why a Navy jet isn't good enough for everyone else to basically just use. Marines don't need this VTOL nonsense or their own jets at all, they can get coverage from Navy or Airforce. If it can take of fand land from a carrier it can take off and land on an airfield. You don't need massive payloads for stealth fighters anymore thanks to the missle truck concept that can launch from well outside of enemy range. The entire concept of separate branches is outdated and needs to end. Sure we can keep the legacy aspects and guys on ships can wear blue and guys on the ground can wear tan and call themselves army or navy, but all the communications, chain of command, and most importantly budget should be one military force. We've known since WWII that combined forces is the best way to conduct operations and the more you silo off the groups the harder that is.
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It just looks like the Northrop YF-23 grey ghost.
Is there a filter being used? Or wich super hornets are featured in this video they look darker grey then all the others ive seen and look super beefed up I really like it.
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Any aircraft now entering into production is likely at least 10-15 years behind what is technologically possible and currently being tested. By the time everything is set up and in place to start production the technology is no longer current. Which is why it makes sense to limit how many of any one type of plane are purchased to leave room for the next generation and to make any platform easy to upgrade.
Who can know?
There's no program-of-record because it will be an evolved long-range F/A-35D strike-fighter. Sorry to spoil the fun re spooky NGAD speculation.
Australia currently uses the same strikefighter USN uses, and that was expanded to Growler. F/A-18F & E/A-18G both need to be replaced. NGJ is also being acquired by RAAF and the NGJ introduction is planned for 2032. Which fits perfectly. The planned replacement was announced & budgeted for during 2019.
Which was a very interesting, given there was no aircraft in sight that could do it, except a new USN F/A-XX. IMO this is the reason Australia cancelled the F-35A's acquisition at 72 airframes, instead of the "up to 100" F-35A that was planned. Which was mystifying. The reason given at the time was RAAF was looking forward to buying "new technology". This explains it. RAAF's planning to acquire around 48 of these new USN aircraft, to fill both Strike and EA roles, because the USN is doing the exact same thing. Because of NGJ, whatever USN replaces Growler with, RAAF will do the same. The F-35 program-of-record already exists as does the aircraft and its airworthiness certificate, all of which can be added to.
So the advanced 'new-gen', new-technology aircraft will be an evolved F/A-35D, and E/A-35E. These will incorporate improvements, advancements and role optimizations that are based on the F-35C airframe. They will most likely include first use of a 6th-gen AETP engine for extended range and loiter, and provide air-supremacy edge and better altitude performance, including supercruise and kinematic advantage. AETP will also reduce the drag impost of carrying NGJ on an E/A variant, and the improved altitude performance will increase NGJ footprint performance, and its cooling.
AETP:
"... In 2016, the Adaptive Engine Transition Program (AETP) was launched with the goal of developing and testing adaptive engines for the future sixth generation fighter programs, Penetrating Counter Air (PCA) or Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) for USAF, and F/A-XX for US Navy, as well as potential re-engining of the F-35. The program assigned the new designations XA100 for General Electric's design and XA101 for Pratt & Whitney's. ..."
Above all else, in a near peer conflict you need volume of supply of airframes, because you will have substantial losses if you have to fight hard against an opponent with substantial stealth, counter stealth, anti-carrier, anti-AWACS capacity.
Last thing I heard from someone was that the Navy was pretty close to having cancelled F/A-XX.
Wouldn't surprise me. A-6F, A-12, Zumwalt DDG, Little Crappy Ships, Constellation FFG, Seawolf SSN, 155mm Gun, Direct Energy Weapons. The Navy doesn't do well getting most of these platforms or getting them with expected capabilities.
Definitely more important for the USN to get a 6th gen.
Upper surface inlets can still be effective at high AOA but it takes some careful tailoring of aerodynamics and airframe design. One of Northrop's studies leading to the final YF-23 configuration incorporated these features.
There is a curiosity about the progress in developing ceramic stealth coatings that can take the heat of supersonic flight. And I cannot resist a pun: The dark horse in the race to power the next generation is Hermeus. Take the concept of the J-58 and make bolt-on kit for new engines - then maybe add thrust vectoring just to prove you can.
So Wise , Thank You .
Love the footage at 15:23 above Burke Lakefront airport in CLE.
That’s why b21 have air2air missiles to fly shorties in contested airspace without escorts