there is nothing wrong with running down the clock during gameplay. whats wrong is wasting time by taking 3 mins to walk off the pitch during subs, and faking injury every 2 mins and other shady stuff
If a player is fouled, they should have 20 seconds to get up. If they can’t, it’s mandatory that they go off the pitch for 2-3 minutes for treatment before they can return to the pitch
Brinder Singh the game has stopped at that time, and don’t forget the ref is responsible for a similar exercise whilst the ball is in play I.e how long the goalkeeper hangs onto the ball
Same logic as goalkeeper holding the ball... they have a time limit but enforced loosley. If a ref thinks- yep this has been too long(Eg probs 35odd secs on ground) he must go off
Rugby union used to have injury time as well and they made the switch quite successfully a few years ago. Now they stop the clock for certain events while letting it run for others. Football could do well with this as well. Stopping the clock for injuries etc and enforcing the 6 second rule for keepers and throw ins. Give them a warning the first time a yellow the second time and the third time they waste time you send them off. It is the only way to change things drastically. Another image problem football has is diving and going down at the slightest of touches. If football wants to reach more audiences world wide, that will have to be addressed. In my country we watch Rugby predominantly and football will never gain a real following as long as people flop around on the floor for no reason. Var could be used to help on when fouls must be given and when not so people don't go to ground on the slightest touch and look ridiculous.
VAR could be very important in this indeed... Personally, I understand why players go down easily. Referees often only blow their whistle when a player goes down. If a player is fouled but doesn't go down, the referee often won't blow his whistle, even if there's no clear advantage. So players kind of have to go down to force the referee to do something. I think this could be solved by making the VAR the "real" referee. By this, I mean that all decisions should be taken by the VAR and that the person on the field who is blowing his whistle, giving cards, etc. is only an assistant to the VAR. This would also solve the problem of the referee having to go to the sideline to watch a moment of play back himself. If the VAR is the one who makes all final decisions and the referee on the field is only someone who executes those decisions, there's no reason for this person on the field to watch back moments of play himself. Such a system would prevent referees from not blowing their whistles when a foul is committed but someone doesn't go down. Furthermore, it would make it useless for players to all fluke around the referee when an important decision has to be made, because the referee on the field would only be someone who executes the decision taken by someone else.
This. I also think the final whistle should also be similar to Rugby Union. The ref already needs to be watching the match so removing the action of him checking the watch, and moving his eyes away from the action and therefore his judgement should be done with the ever increasing referee support team in the VAR room. Football is one of the few games that relies on deceit for "winning" fouls. This should be removed. Sports should evolve to improve itself. Should be aware that the back-pass ban greatly aided the speed of the game - going back further, the pitch markings, crossbars and even nets where only implemented many years after the game had been created. Penalty kicks only came into the game in 1891, 20 years after the game had been created!
I understand time wasting to an extent, like if a keeper takes a little longer to take the goal kick. But lately, time wasting has been taken to an absolutely ridiculous level. I don't know if anyone remembers Asensio rolling down his socks and taking his shin guards off ON THE PITCH so he could waste some time before being subbed off? Shameless.
That's nothing new, though. Players have been doing that kind of bs for ages. Another example is when they move to the opposite side of the pitch right before a substitution, so it takes them longer to get off the pitch.
I understand "time-wasting" as simply a strategy that slows the pace of the game down and allows for a team to see out a win. But I agree that it is getting out of hand. I think these problems can be solved by stricter regulations about what should be considered for added time. Added time is only for stoppages that are not a natural part of the game, meaning they exclude goals, substitutions, etc. meaning that Asensio can take as long as he likes, as long as the referee doesn't see it as time-wasting. But I think that a different interpretation, one that can allow for certain parts of these stoppages to be considered time-wasting. Anything longer than a "normal" part of the stoppage can be considered time-wasting. If Asensio jogs off the pitch normally, no added time. If he walks slowly and removes his shinguards? Then time can be added. Of course, what is considered "normal" is pretty subjective.
I was looking for something like this for a long time! Thank you!! There is this list I made about how the time-wasting situation and general fairness should be improved: - substitutions with no stoppage (like in Every. Other. Game.) - release the ball immediately after stoppage - throw-ins are far too strict - What unfair advantage is there if you roll it to the next player? - stopping the clock (just like in the video) with one half being 40 minutes long - a team has two free challenges via VAR. If they are right, they keep two (or one if one is already lost) and lose one if they are wrong - Power play (5 minutes) for wasting time not releasing the ball or something
@@gigamasteralmas2097 I don't really want to dissect the points. I think a VAR challenge can make the sport more fair - like in field hockey (or tennis). Also VAR disrupts the game and fewer VARs would make the game better, imo. And power play is pretty much the same. If you don't release the ball immediately or do a tactical foul, you get a five minute penalty.
I’ve been a die-hard advocate for these changes. I think it’s an absolute disgrace to the sport that such cheap tactics are rewarded. Thank you so much for this video!
EPT seems like the most appropriate method. Who wants to add 14 mins of extra time? That would greatly affect tactics (e.g: sub your star ST out at 85' but the game actually lasts another 20')
The problem is that it very easily could be the first step towards the complete plastic feeling of NFL football. With commercial breaks and all. Football should be great to watch in person, and having commercial breaks sucks for that. In addition, it will greatly impact the time a game is played. Having a consistency in the product is important. If a game suddenly varies in length, it will make both TV scheduling and stadium experience inconsistent.
@@Taeerom How can a commercial breaks during games occur? The only time that could work from a broadcasting preservative is when a player is down for an injury. Other than that it would not work as they have 60 seconds (or less) to play them making it pointless. Plus, rugby don't have commercial breaks during a game
@@armose2243 Is it fun to watch as it is? Im watching players waste five minutes of games trying to fake an injury. Watching the last few minutes of games is so boring. On average only 5 minutes of the last 10 minutes of every game has the ball in open play
MLS has done a fantastic job with adding more time, especially Mark Geiger. Both at the World Cup and in mls games he has added 7+mins of stoppage time when necessary, even extending that beyond 10 mins on occasions when time is wasted in stoppage time.
This is a really well-timed video, I recently watched some of the 5th round matches in the FA cup and it was just like clockwork, as soon as a goal was scored, no matter how early in the game, the team would just start painfully wasting time whenever they could... just kills the flow and interest of the game...
Thank god they're talking about this. I find it very annoying that teams (even my own team) are using time wasting as a 'tactical option' , this i thing basically hinders the sport ability to give feelin of excitements.
They are "talking about this" but almost nothing will be done. The players are too powerful in high level football and while that is the case they will be treated like royalty and behave like children.
I believe the best way to reduce time wasting is to give the ball to the other team if you have not put the ball back in play after a set amount of seconds. For example if a team has a throw in, you have to throw the ball within 10 seconds, otherwise the other team gets the throw in.
@@mallikarjunsiddappa If the ball is out of play and the possessing team won't throw it in (in a timely, non-wasteful manner), how do you suggest the opposing team get it?
M Ed look I understand where you are coming from! But that’s in the strategy or the tactic, it’s call riling up the team by not giving them the ball or wasting time so they get angry and lose focus. Look the same team which couldn’t get the ball from another team, would do the same thing in another game! It’s all fair! Name a team which wouldn’t do that? I have played football ( although not in a professional league, like a small leagues) they do that too! It’s how your team keeps the focus to attack when they get the ball! Think about it!
I think the introduction of EPT as well as changing to 30 minute halves would greatly improve both the pace of the game (teams are encouraged to make faster plays, yet can decide to gamble on slow development of the ball moving upfield. At the same time, players would be discouraged to dive if thrown off balance, instead encouraging them to get back up and get on their man asap) as well as discouraging time wasting in numerous areas. Here are my proposed changes. -30 minute halves -Clock stops when ref blows their whistle due to stoppage of play -Play resumes when ref blows their whistle a second time, but clock does not resume -Clock resumes when ball is live. The 'dead time' between the resuming of play and when the ball is live will be factored back into the game via ET. This will allow players to complete their FK and PEN rituals, or for players to jockey for position during a corner or throw in, but at the end of the day, the ball will have been live for a full hour (or as close to it).
In 2015, I went to a game between Mansfield and Bristol Rovers. The ref added 11 mins on and Bristol Rovers scored in the 99th minuite. There was a lot of time wasted and a red card for diving.
EPT sounds like the best solution; when the ball goes out for a goal kick stop the clock and only start it again when the goalkeeper kicks the ball. Same with throw-ins; only start the clock again when the ball leaves the players hands. Same with corners, free kicks, substitutions and any other situation in which play is halted. 6 second rule applies for when the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands. That would eliminate time wasting almost entirely, though the problem may arise that matches could take hours to complete so perhaps halves should be shortened as stated in the video.
Sounds like, but the one thing that's always kept football as such is it's flow. I get that time wasting inherently ruins that, and thus bringing a stop clock system would work, but part of the tactics of football IS clock management, and I feel like there just has to be a better way to police those who waste too much time. TBH more frequent bookings for time wasting would be good. Referees can understand things such as a player wiping off a wet ball, a team being shit at creating an open target for the throw, or a ball boy retrieving the ball, but this nonsense of waiting and moving up, and wasting time that way would be easy to spot. A ref simply telling a player to hurry up (or the closest linesman) would work.
Aloysius Quek It wouldn’t though. In the 45 min half that we have now, some half’s only have around 30-35 mins of EPT either way. It wouldn’t change how long it takes to watch a game or how long players have to play. It would just ensure that all teams play the exact same amount of time and that the trailing team is not disadvantaged.
A few ideas: 1. Impose a time limit on various situations when the ball is out of play. For example, 5s for a throw in, 6s for goal kick, 10s for a corner kick, etc. Violation of the rule will result in automatic turn over. Under this rule, if the goalie takes too long to kick off, the opponent is rewarded with a free kick inside the penalty box, from the spot where the ball was. 2. Don't stop the game for substitutions (except serious injuries). Let the 4th official control it. 3. Stop the clock for serious injuries, goal celebrations, and free kicks. 4. If the injury is serious enough to stop the clock, the injured player(s) must leave the game and not return. If a team run out of subs, tough luck.
With the fourth rule you are literally rewarding fouls. That would call for a highly aggressive game where there's no football, just cheap tactics to lessen the number of players in the rival team.
i really like the idea of ept. it makes the most sense. and as for time outs for ads there arent any timeouts in football. players can still kill the momentum of a game by taking their time w restarts though.
45 minutes for each half, 5 substitutions, being 2 of those only of previously sacked players, EPT with stadium clock. There's EPT in indoor football and it works greatly.
I would like to see referees have the ability to turnover play for timewasting. For example, if a goalkeeper is taking too long to take a goal kick, the referee should award a corner to the other team instead.
I have always thought the amount of added time is inaccurate. In stoppage time, someone would waste a full 30 seconds, but the ref would blow right at the pre determined added time, disregarding that 30 seconds wasted during the added time. It just encourages time wasting, because it truly works, give the right amount of added time after 90 minutes, and players wouldn’t have the incentive to waste time
Allowing self-passing, requiring players being subbed to leave at the nearest touchline, and enforcing the 6 second rule on keepers is a great start and simple to do now. Stopping the clock after goals and at substitutions are easy ones to do as well.
Why doesn't football introduce pausing the clock? What is so difficult about it? Why can't a group of hundreds of people & several associations think up this simple thing?
@@CrippledFapper Why do you keep commenting this on each comment about stopping the clock? In order to have commercial breaks during a game there would need to be an actual game stoppage of at least 30 seconds to a minute to fit ads in. This type of stoppage happens frequently in sports like basketball and the NFL, which is why there are so many ad breaks. To achieve this in football, you would have to fundamentally change the way the game is played to allow for these multiple extended stoppages. Stopping the game clock for things like throw-ins and goal kicks does not equate to stopping the flow of the game. These events do not typically take even close to 30 seconds most of the time, so why would pausing the clock allow for an ad? The only realistic situation I can see for an ad break during the game is for a serious injury that takes several minutes to get the player off the field. In my opinion it would be acceptable to go to a commercial break in that instance.
@@bluejew6969 There you are wrong. In those ad infected sports the commercial breaks take much more time than the stoppage would normally take. What stops money greedy TV companies or worst of them all FIFA and UEFA not to give in a 30 seconds commercial break now and then during a ordinary throw in or goal kick for like once or twice in each half for starters? It's done in other sports with stopping time so it's only the matter of time before it reaches football too if we start stopping the time
Football in narrow spaces of time, never thought about that but i think it's part of the game, it's not nessary and not sure if it is for the better to reduce the waste of time, but the article itself is great and opened my eyes about how much effort given to calculate alot of things in the world of football at the last decade
In the description you said....you said....Soccer World Cup !!!!!!! Blasphemy!!!!!!! Now go back and change this......NOW !!!! Great job again on your channel. Very good.
I like how the clock stops during injuries etc during a rugby game and that the game will keep on playing over the allotted time until the ball goes dead. It’s a transparent system but also adds additional drama to the end when one team is desperate to keep possession for one last chance and the other only needs to kick the ball out of play.
I think they are times when a stopclock should not be used in football..(if it was brought in)...so consider the time after a goal is scored and the restart...We won't stop the clock for that as it would be considered a natural ending point, players are allowed to celebrate a goal and should be allowed to do so..
2 half's of 30 minutes EPT sounds really interesting. All of the teams will play the same amount of minutes during the whole season also defensive style of play will be way less effective(defending for 45 mins EPT vs defending for 60 mins EPT). Which will result in more attractive football and more goal. This kind of change will even work better with VAR. Not sure about what the downsides are, maybe the length increase of a single match to around 20-30 mins longer can be seen as a downside.
You sure about defensive play being less effective? The tiki-taka style defence, where you just roll the ball around in non-dangerous ways will be more utilised compared to parking the bus and punting it forwards. Personally, I loathe the slow possesion oriented 1-0 defence. I really can't think of any more boring football to watch.
Easy mode: You have 5 seconds from when the ref blows the whistle to continue play to act your action(goal kick, corner, foul etc) If you go over the 5 seconds, you get a yellow card and the team and player are fined xxx amount of money, per offence. As for injuries: They have 10-15 seconds to get up and continue play, if they can't then players will be dragged(assissted) off the pitch immediately by medical staff or their own team mates(no faffing about, you get off ASAP) and can be attended to at the side of the pitch. If they are cleared and allowed back on, after a minimum time of 2-5 minutes of being checked on, they must wait until a stoppage in the game(goal kick, corner etc) and the ref signals to let them return. If no injury is found, they return before the ref allows, or they waste time getting off the pitch(ref's discretion), then they are given a yellow card and the team and player are fined xxx amount of money, per offence. ANY arguing(note arguing, not discussion, ref's discretion which is which) with the ref will be met with a yellow and a removal from the game, of that player, for 5-15 minutes(ref's discretion). Continued arguing with the ref, after a punishment has already been given to your team, may result in fines and or bans of players for x amount of games. It's about time refs were given some respect like in Rugby. If bulky 6ft+ men that could tear your head off can respect a small man telling them what to do without punching him in the face, then some pussy twats who worry more about their hair than they do the game, can do the same. If players, and teams, are going to encourage fucking about, time wasting and faking injuries to get penalties/free kicks etc, then the FA/FIFA need to grow a pair and start kicking some ass.
i think they should play with a clock like in which there are two timers like in timer A: it should count the time which is being played normally in and in timer B: wheneven an inury or whatever happens or when the ball is out of play the second timer should start and when the ball is back on the play then from timer A the time oftimer B should be subtracts ( keep it mind when the ball is out of play the timer A is still ticking with timer B) this is an alternative if they dont want to stop the clock
The obvious solution is to just implement EPT that would totally eradicate time wasting all together. It wouldn't really be difficult to implement either.
Case in point from the EPL game on Monday 11th February between Wolves and Newcastle: Newcastle started time wasting from the 12th minute to disrupt the flow of the game. Not a problem with that, as it’s a good technique when it works. The players on the pitch were telling each other to slow the game down as they held onto their 1 goal lead which is good game management. However, when the referee stipulated a minimum of 4 minutes of injury time, “master tactician” Rafa Benitez, decided that the 90th minute was the perfect time for a substitution, which wasted time as injury time was starting and more time was wasted taking the free kick that allowed the break in play for the substitute to happen. The referee correctly only began injury time from the moment the free kick was taken, which was around the 91st minute, and Wolves managed to grab an equaliser in the 95th minute. So it’s nice to see that time wasting can also backfire on teams as well.
Video's subject matter made even more relevant with the advent of VAR, where officials themselves seem oblivious of the duration for which they stop the action to consult. A fresh case in point is the recent AFCoN final...
American here ... the running clock is my favorite thing about world football. American Football and Basketball, time stoppages are the worst part of the games. It slows everything down and now we just get spammed with commercials. A 60 minute game takes 4 hours to play
I heartily welcome these measures. Time wasting is incredibly frustrating. The only thing I'll miss is the sight of a team who, at one goal up, having wasted half the match, suddenly concede two goals and find themselves without any time to rectify it.... hehehehe
well imporving this would definately make the gap even wider between small clubs vs big clubs becuase small club usually win games using these tactics of wasting time. for me the most frustrating thing has always been players going down with cramps to burn time. i think the player who has cramps should be carried off immediately no questions asked .
The most simple solution is also the easiest one to implement: Effective playing time, such as used in basketball and indoor soccer would eliminate all time-wasting behaviour period. Simply because there is no time to be wasted as the clock isn't ticking. No arbitrary stoppage time anymore either. To implement it, researchers would just have to work out how much effective playing time is needed to get to a total game-time of 90 -100 minutes by analyzing EPT in all matches across multiple leagues and other competitions in say the last 15 years and appoint a sideline-referee has to be appointed to manage the game clock (like in NBA basketball). Et violá! No more annoying and unsporting behaviour in our beautiful game related to time waisting! As for other annoying behaviours like flopping, theatrics to influence the referee to give the opponent a card, asking the referee to give the opponent a card and excessive (and aggressively) complaining to a referee: zero-tolerance = yellow card. At first, it would generate quite a lot of red cards (due to double yellow's) and lead to a bit of chaos and uproar, but within a few months, our sport would be cured of all that cancerous behaviour.
Looking at rugby for ideas seems a good way to look at this. They stop the clock for some things but not others. Time wasted taking set pieces in football is never added on though at the end currently and refs only seem to brandish the odd yellow card for it when they feel like it. Hard to know how to get round this. Something else I would like to see to help stop delaying is the use of "blood subs". I have got rather fed up of seeing a player start his treatment om the field for a minute, go off to be patched up to then see clearly his problem hasn't been 100% solved. Blood subs could solve this problem and insure a team isn't a man down whilst the player is treated.
I have been thinking about this for a few years. I think there should be a "play clock" for each throw in and goal kick. If the player does not put the ball in play before the time runs out, he gets a yellow. I had not thought about having the player play the ball to himself, but that would be an option if they have nobody near them. I had thought about having the subbed player walk out the nearest line, but ALSO have a timer for this. If they are not off in, say, 10 seconds, they get carded. I think those were the two I came up with. I had not thought much about foul situations. I guess that if there is no foul or anything, the ref can see it in the VAR and yellow card the player for wasting time.
Thoroughly support EPT in the professional game (perhaps with the time starting when the ball is available and the game ready for the restart, with a tight play clock to put it in play and a turnover if the time runs out). Would also like to see rugby's end-of-half rules adopted where play continues when time is up, until it goes out of play. (Excluding free kicks, penalties, drop balls, and maybe corners)
To add on, the limitations behind it are already existing limitations behind refereeing; misjudgment (rarer occasions), rigged calls, not enough POV cameras(but field refs only have one POV themselves), etc.
Tons of advantages that you should be able to think up yourself. The limitations are mostly caused by football rules being written too vaguely like what is a handball, when is a tackle a foul and when is it not stuff like that should be written down very clearly. The other limitation is that we only check rulings that are game changing but often not what happened before them. E.G. a throw-in for the wrong teams results in a freekick for the wrong team which may result in a goal. This is hard to combat since people want to have a fair game but dont want to consult the var on every decision. The biggest problem for fans imo is that many expected there to be 0 wrong calls after vars introduction which is simply impossible. Whenever something is not corrected or not ruled in favor of their team (most often caused by said vague rules like handball and so on) they call var bs completly ignoring that game changing wrong calls are almost absent now and the alternative being more bad calls and games decided by the ref.
Well the referees shouldn't be given any right to interfere in between the var procedures ,instead the referees behind the screen should have the last say ,this tends to be more meaningful
Add someone in the VAR room who's job it is to track time wasting. They then tell the 4th official how much added time there should be. Once there are a few instances of 20 minutes added time, teams and players will stop their antics and bring it down to somewhat normal levels.
About time the rules get tighter on this. If they were back in the day, Ferguson would lose many of the points gained in the injury time and the pressure he put on refs which was not professional from his part. Young would clean the ball till the markings get erased before he threw the ball in.
Excellent video. yes, the "powers that be" have to get off their behinds and make changes (beyond simply straining themselves to monitor more accurate added time!) to address the time-wasting issue. Also, they are going to have to eventually seriously address getting more scoring into the game somehow.
"Still to recover from ideological hack" 😂 Tifo that was fantastic. I request a video on Argentina's FA problems and why there not producing any talent.
Another great video by you guys! I really dont care how, I just want it to change for my Sunday League games as well as Leagues and Cups in professional play. Neymar rolling around the pitch made me hate him although hes incredibly talented and fun to watch.
One of the other issues with timekeeping is that quite often, after the injury time referees don't want to stop during a passage of play. They should do what Rugby Union does and say once the additional time is up, the game stops when the ball is next out of play
All it takes is for the ref to stop the clock when he blows his whistle. When the ball travels behind either goal line and resume play once the corner kick or goal kick is taken. It can still be a free flowing game, it just needs better time management from the officials.
While reading the comment section, I see that some people think that stopping the clock will solve the problem, but in my opinion more complex protocols are required. We need to discourage players from wasting time because it ruins the flow of the game, and it may affect the momentum of a team. Here are some ideas that I have: -Limit the usage of VAR technology. Referees will not use VAR voluntarily. A team is allowed to ask for a VAR revision only three times per game. -Create a protest protocol. Players can only discuss a decision by a referee if they want to ask for VAR technology. Only the captains of both teams and the players involved in a VAR revision are allowed to discuss with the referee. Any other player discussing with the referee will receive a yellow card. At any other circumstance, if a player protests any decision made by the referee, the referee will give the player a yellow card for lack of respect. -Reduce time-wasting due to injury. Any player that remains in the ground may receive medical treatment immediately. In this case, the clock will be stopped. If the player doesn't receive medical treatment immediately, the referee will give the player 20 seconds to get up or allow him to call for medical assistance. If 20 seconds have passed, the referee will make a signal to stop the clock. In this case, medical assistance will be mandatory and the player will be given a yellow card for time-wasting. Players who receive medical assistance will have to leave the field but will be able to return with the permission of the referee whenever the ball is out of play. -Punish time-wasting. Referees will give a team 20 seconds to make goal-kicks, indirect free-kicks, and throw-ins. If 20 seconds have passed, the opposing team will be awarded with a throw-in, a free-kick, or a corner-kick. If these protocols are followed, I don't think it is necessary to stop the clock every single free-kick or when the ball is out of play. Also, no added time will be necessary.
Something has to happen and quickly. Time wasting is ruining the game. We need to see these players play, not wasting the price I have paid for my ticket. EPT sounds like a brilliant idea.
One thing they could do is give a max time (eg 30 seconds) for a substitution to take place. If this isn't completed then the team lose one of their substitutions, or if it's the last one they lose that player and have to finish with 10 men. Wouldn't apply for injuries
Wait... stoppage time should've be 14 MINUTES?!?! This is excellent information. I detest time wasting. Fake injuries ( rolling around the pitch with hand in the air) and subtitutions are the worst. I hope the data gathered is being delivered to the correct governing boards and something is done immediately. Time wasting is destroying the beautiful game.
. If we want to reduce the amount of time wasting, the referee could implement a 5-8 second time rule for throw ins and goal kicks (like basketball) and if the team fails to get the ball back in play in that amount of time, a turnover occurs and the opposing team takes the throw in or a corner kick. As for injuries and Neymar, the referee could also implement disciplinary action for time wasting, resulting in a yellow card. As for stoppage time, adding 14 minutes onto the end of a match is a joke. Stoppage time is not supposed to be accurate, it’s supposed to give a general amount of extra time to make up for time the ball is spent out of play during a match. If football wanted to be accurate about the time, the clock would wind down from 90 instead of count up from zero.
When the MLS started, it has a stadium clock that the referee would stop every time there was foul or medical assistance was needed, the idea was scratched afterwards
I had this crazy idea there should be a kind of net around pitch like an indoor sports thing so the ball never goes out for throwings or goalkick, just bounce it off and continue, well there are so many things wrong with it I know but wouldn't it be cool to have constant continuous football like that
Diving as a time wasting strategy is easy fixed, Rugby League in Australia has a point accumulation system for assessing penalties for dirty players and this idea is transferable to football and diving if someone is caught diving in a match they receive points against their name for the season and the more diving occurs the harsher the penalty received, players like Neymar would stop diving if they knew one more would risk a long term suspension
Stopping the clock for subs would be a big improvement to begin with. For injuries I'd like it to be if the player hasn't gotten back to his feet in 15 seconds the clock stops and physio comes on, if the same player gets up and then goes straight back down minutes later the clock stops. Still add on time for the ball going out of play. Have it controlled by the var officials so time is all accounted for, no more referees making up numbers based on their opinion. Yes games will be longer, but do we really need all the pre-amble and analysis.
The EPT idea of 30 minute halves could be a slippery slope to 15 minute quarters... But honestly I would take that if it meant better accuracy of timekeeping than we have now
So going back to my last post 70-80 minute in-play/effective playing time clock for pro game 90 minute continuous clock/injury time system for everyone else…… only other change is last league games of the season and last World Cup group games might need all 2nd halfs starting at same time on top of the 1st half kickoff times as at present … and games finish after game clock has run down and ball goes out of play or legal goal is scored or ball touches the ground outside either penalty area and winning team has 100% control of the ball for s second.
Either you stop the clock when the ball is not in play, or you accept the nature of the game, for the most part. That being said, one thing I find baffling is timing as related to injuries because it's so obviously easy to solve without altering timing rules significantly. If you require treatment, you must leave the pitch for an extended period of time (a few minutes, at least 5) or maybe even require substitution. Also, stop the clock for any injury requiring treatment.
Hey guys, how about a video that explains potential brexit effects on the premier league and its financial dominance? Maybe you’ve done it but haven’t seen one. Thank you and keep at it, great channel!!
Stopping the clock seems like a simple and effective measure to tackle the time wasting problem. Diving and Simulation should result in 3 match ban by the FA like they do with 'violent conducts'. Also, if the players don't take a throw in within 6-7 seconds the throw should be awarded to the opposing team.
Way to complicated. Easiest solution --> Ice-Hockey The moment the game gets interrupted, the time stops. That way you cant even waste time, except ofc if you pass the ball back and forth with the goalie, but that can also be done in ice-hockey...
I don't know why a simple solution such as actually stopping the clock when the ball is not in play , is not taken into consideration , Handball , Basketball and other sports use it and it's so effective , especially with the addition of VAR , some matches became really unwatchable and i don't think that there's any better option than stopping the clock and getting rid of extra-time since leading teams waste it anyway.
Do a comparison between de gea’s time spent taking goal kicks and other passes, and edersons , n order to see if this is really a broader problem or one specific to certain teams, players, managers and football philosophies
There are studies made. The biggest factor is the result, not the philosophies. Teams that are winning take longer than teams that are tied. Team that are losing are faster than teams that are tied or winning.
Do what they do in Rugby whenever there is a stoppage stop the clock until the ball is back in play . At 90 minutes clock goes red and play continues until the ball goes out of play
Why not just stop the clock when ball is out of play? Cut games down to 40 min if length is an issue. All that time wasting makes games even longer anyway. I think stopping the clock, we'll see less dramatic injuries.
Here is an idea for the six seconds rule; a keeper takes longer than that and he's shown a mandatory yellow. This rule should also apply to players taking throw ins.
effective playing-time is NOT a radical change. Literally every other sport does it. They could also implement a system where it is effective playing time for let's say the last 10 minutes
EPT seems the most logical step to take, if we stop the clock every time the whistle is blown we will end up with matches lasting 3 hours like American sports
Stop the clock when the ball stops. Limit goalkeepers to five seconds to return the ball to play on non-stoppages (this should create more mistakes and thus more scoring), and since the game will be "longer" increase subs to 4 and/or reduce to 70 minutes. Simple. Make football great again and get Neymar playing again!
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I have not seen anyone mention the time wasting in that United game at Wembley which was disgraceful and not the mark of a “big” team like United. They were time wasting before they even scored!! They are a still a shit team and winning a few games in a row against small clubs then defending with 10 men behind the ball against any decent team does not mean you’re “back”. I think the CL game last night proved just that.
When my team trails: those bastards are time wasting!!!
When my team leads: clever play lads run the clock down very professional
Totally agree
David Kerr trust football fans (including me) are hypocrites
there is nothing wrong with running down the clock during gameplay. whats wrong is wasting time by taking 3 mins to walk off the pitch during subs, and faking injury every 2 mins and other shady stuff
Some things are made for eternity!!!
Well duh.
I'm still not over the fact that you can waste as much as 50 minutes of a game
Élisée Bitsene average football match is 60-65 min so they only wasting 15-20 min compared to the average
@@AliMohamed-yq4wn 25-30 you mean?
Injury time: am I a joke to you
@@delayedcreator4783 10 points
'In an interview with Tifo...'???
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Totally agreed. What Tifo reports are amazing accurate and for the most part, spot on.
They'll be at 1mil soon and hopefully they'll remember the few who subscribed when there were Umaxit.
There's a guy on the phone and he says he's from tifo...
Yes put him through right away 😂
Talk about time waisting in added time
@Everything you do is a balloon yeah it's got a big waist
Blue Manchester City are experts!!
I hate when time is wasted during added time, but the referee blows the whistle before the added time has even ended
If a player is fouled, they should have 20 seconds to get up. If they can’t, it’s mandatory that they go off the pitch for 2-3 minutes for treatment before they can return to the pitch
And who would count these 20 seconds?
@@TwoThreeFive The referee. The person who is employed the manage the game
@@MemphesX And the referee won't focus on the game during this time?
Brinder Singh the game has stopped at that time, and don’t forget the ref is responsible for a similar exercise whilst the ball is in play I.e how long the goalkeeper hangs onto the ball
Same logic as goalkeeper holding the ball... they have a time limit but enforced loosley. If a ref thinks- yep this has been too long(Eg probs 35odd secs on ground) he must go off
To be fair, it *was* a dazzling sight to see Neymar rolling around for the memes.
LOL
@@Francis..... Jeeps
It was quite pathetic and cringy
@@mshah27 Think harder!? That was my wish for him six years ago. Safe to say its too late for that one.
@@mshah27 But as a Bayern fan I have to say I almost fell off the couch laughing when he rolled himself off the pitch.
Rugby union used to have injury time as well and they made the switch quite successfully a few years ago. Now they stop the clock for certain events while letting it run for others. Football could do well with this as well. Stopping the clock for injuries etc and enforcing the 6 second rule for keepers and throw ins. Give them a warning the first time a yellow the second time and the third time they waste time you send them off. It is the only way to change things drastically. Another image problem football has is diving and going down at the slightest of touches. If football wants to reach more audiences world wide, that will have to be addressed. In my country we watch Rugby predominantly and football will never gain a real following as long as people flop around on the floor for no reason. Var could be used to help on when fouls must be given and when not so people don't go to ground on the slightest touch and look ridiculous.
VAR could be very important in this indeed... Personally, I understand why players go down easily. Referees often only blow their whistle when a player goes down. If a player is fouled but doesn't go down, the referee often won't blow his whistle, even if there's no clear advantage. So players kind of have to go down to force the referee to do something. I think this could be solved by making the VAR the "real" referee. By this, I mean that all decisions should be taken by the VAR and that the person on the field who is blowing his whistle, giving cards, etc. is only an assistant to the VAR. This would also solve the problem of the referee having to go to the sideline to watch a moment of play back himself. If the VAR is the one who makes all final decisions and the referee on the field is only someone who executes those decisions, there's no reason for this person on the field to watch back moments of play himself. Such a system would prevent referees from not blowing their whistles when a foul is committed but someone doesn't go down. Furthermore, it would make it useless for players to all fluke around the referee when an important decision has to be made, because the referee on the field would only be someone who executes the decision taken by someone else.
In fact, in U.S people use that for soccer (british football) in highschol league
This. I also think the final whistle should also be similar to Rugby Union. The ref already needs to be watching the match so removing the action of him checking the watch, and moving his eyes away from the action and therefore his judgement should be done with the ever increasing referee support team in the VAR room. Football is one of the few games that relies on deceit for "winning" fouls. This should be removed. Sports should evolve to improve itself. Should be aware that the back-pass ban greatly aided the speed of the game - going back further, the pitch markings, crossbars and even nets where only implemented many years after the game had been created. Penalty kicks only came into the game in 1891, 20 years after the game had been created!
Regardt are you from South Africa
@@shaheemleo9920 I am indeed.
I understand time wasting to an extent, like if a keeper takes a little longer to take the goal kick. But lately, time wasting has been taken to an absolutely ridiculous level. I don't know if anyone remembers Asensio rolling down his socks and taking his shin guards off ON THE PITCH so he could waste some time before being subbed off? Shameless.
That's nothing new, though. Players have been doing that kind of bs for ages. Another example is when they move to the opposite side of the pitch right before a substitution, so it takes them longer to get off the pitch.
This is really easy to solve. Get off the pitch where the nearest line is. I think FIFA will implement that rule in the near future.
I understand "time-wasting" as simply a strategy that slows the pace of the game down and allows for a team to see out a win. But I agree that it is getting out of hand. I think these problems can be solved by stricter regulations about what should be considered for added time. Added time is only for stoppages that are not a natural part of the game, meaning they exclude goals, substitutions, etc. meaning that Asensio can take as long as he likes, as long as the referee doesn't see it as time-wasting. But I think that a different interpretation, one that can allow for certain parts of these stoppages to be considered time-wasting. Anything longer than a "normal" part of the stoppage can be considered time-wasting. If Asensio jogs off the pitch normally, no added time. If he walks slowly and removes his shinguards? Then time can be added. Of course, what is considered "normal" is pretty subjective.
A player that does not leave the pitch immediately should be booked.
ewt415 Have you ever seen Barca, City or psg take the lead? Those teams know what time wasting is.
I was looking for something like this for a long time! Thank you!!
There is this list I made about how the time-wasting situation and general fairness should be improved:
- substitutions with no stoppage (like in Every. Other. Game.)
- release the ball immediately after stoppage
- throw-ins are far too strict - What unfair advantage is there if you roll it to the next player?
- stopping the clock (just like in the video) with one half being 40 minutes long
- a team has two free challenges via VAR. If they are right, they keep two (or one if one is already lost) and lose one if they are wrong
- Power play (5 minutes) for wasting time not releasing the ball or something
way too american
@@gigamasteralmas2097 What do you mean by that being too American?
@@Michael_Deti "challenges" and "power plays" are very very bad ideas. VAR is being used properly now, why can it only be used via challenges?
@@gigamasteralmas2097 I don't really want to dissect the points. I think a VAR challenge can make the sport more fair - like in field hockey (or tennis). Also VAR disrupts the game and fewer VARs would make the game better, imo.
And power play is pretty much the same. If you don't release the ball immediately or do a tactical foul, you get a five minute penalty.
“Is Football wasting our time?”
My mum: Yes, it’s just 22 men chasing a ball 🙃
My mom puts it up even funnier way, " 22 grown men chasing a silly ball around the field" :D :D
My gf said anyone could kick a ball around a field so I broke up with her
@@josesandoval1304 21, the ref chases the ball too
My mum would tell me the same thing. I would tell her "but can you score a screamer from 30 yards out?"
more like 22 millionaires chasing a ball
I’ve been a die-hard advocate for these changes. I think it’s an absolute disgrace to the sport that such cheap tactics are rewarded. Thank you so much for this video!
EPT seems like the most appropriate method. Who wants to add 14 mins of extra time? That would greatly affect tactics (e.g: sub your star ST out at 85' but the game actually lasts another 20')
Thats actually really good usage.
If 14 minutes should be played then play 14 minutes.
EPT is giving in to commercial breaks in football.
The problem is that it very easily could be the first step towards the complete plastic feeling of NFL football. With commercial breaks and all. Football should be great to watch in person, and having commercial breaks sucks for that.
In addition, it will greatly impact the time a game is played. Having a consistency in the product is important. If a game suddenly varies in length, it will make both TV scheduling and stadium experience inconsistent.
@@Taeerom How can a commercial breaks during games occur? The only time that could work from a broadcasting preservative is when a player is down for an injury. Other than that it would not work as they have 60 seconds (or less) to play them making it pointless. Plus, rugby don't have commercial breaks during a game
stopping the clock is the only realistic solution.
no ref will ever give 15 mins of injury time
Ept is fairest of them all, aussie rules use this, and they have a great product
It won’t be fun to watch football anymore
@@armose2243 untrue
@@armose2243 Is it fun to watch as it is? Im watching players waste five minutes of games trying to fake an injury. Watching the last few minutes of games is so boring. On average only 5 minutes of the last 10 minutes of every game has the ball in open play
MLS has done a fantastic job with adding more time, especially Mark Geiger. Both at the World Cup and in mls games he has added 7+mins of stoppage time when necessary, even extending that beyond 10 mins on occasions when time is wasted in stoppage time.
Apart from that, though, he's a s**t ref.
Geiger puts money on games. Adding 7 minutes means he's losing his bet
This is a really well-timed video, I recently watched some of the 5th round matches in the FA cup and it was just like clockwork, as soon as a goal was scored, no matter how early in the game, the team would just start painfully wasting time whenever they could... just kills the flow and interest of the game...
Ahaha,
I thought it is what can I do instead of wasting time watching football :D
thats legit what I thought first when I read the title
Dorian Ardeleanu me too
Me too
Same here
Same here. Sometimes I feel guilty after watching 2 or more matches the same day because I feel like I'm wasting time
Thank god they're talking about this. I find it very annoying that teams (even my own team) are using time wasting as a 'tactical option' , this i thing basically hinders the sport ability to give feelin of excitements.
They are "talking about this" but almost nothing will be done. The players are too powerful in high level football and while that is the case they will be treated like royalty and behave like children.
@@mentality-monster yep. I guess that's the sad reality.
I believe the best way to reduce time wasting is to give the ball to the other team if you have not put the ball back in play after a set amount of seconds. For example if a team has a throw in, you have to throw the ball within 10 seconds, otherwise the other team gets the throw in.
Good idea in theory but what if ball boys don't give the ball quickly enough for the Away side etc. :D
I think that is a rule that works better in a faster paced game like handball than football.
Lol thats just american verison of any sports. Take basketball or NFL. You cant take the ball from them? Lets give it to them. No Thanks!
@@mallikarjunsiddappa If the ball is out of play and the possessing team won't throw it in (in a timely, non-wasteful manner), how do you suggest the opposing team get it?
M Ed look I understand where you are coming from! But that’s in the strategy or the tactic, it’s call riling up the team by not giving them the ball or wasting time so they get angry and lose focus.
Look the same team which couldn’t get the ball from another team, would do the same thing in another game! It’s all fair! Name a team which wouldn’t do that?
I have played football ( although not in a professional league, like a small leagues) they do that too! It’s how your team keeps the focus to attack when they get the ball! Think about it!
I think the introduction of EPT as well as changing to 30 minute halves would greatly improve both the pace of the game (teams are encouraged to make faster plays, yet can decide to gamble on slow development of the ball moving upfield. At the same time, players would be discouraged to dive if thrown off balance, instead encouraging them to get back up and get on their man asap) as well as discouraging time wasting in numerous areas. Here are my proposed changes.
-30 minute halves
-Clock stops when ref blows their whistle due to stoppage of play
-Play resumes when ref blows their whistle a second time, but clock does not resume
-Clock resumes when ball is live.
The 'dead time' between the resuming of play and when the ball is live will be factored back into the game via ET. This will allow players to complete their FK and PEN rituals, or for players to jockey for position during a corner or throw in, but at the end of the day, the ball will have been live for a full hour (or as close to it).
In 2015, I went to a game between Mansfield and Bristol Rovers. The ref added 11 mins on and Bristol Rovers scored in the 99th minuite. There was a lot of time wasted and a red card for diving.
3:26 Bloody hell, as if 6 more minutes of that match wasn't tedious enough.
Bru that game was prob one of the best of the WC 😂😅
EPT sounds like the best solution; when the ball goes out for a goal kick stop the clock and only start it again when the goalkeeper kicks the ball. Same with throw-ins; only start the clock again when the ball leaves the players hands. Same with corners, free kicks, substitutions and any other situation in which play is halted. 6 second rule applies for when the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands. That would eliminate time wasting almost entirely, though the problem may arise that matches could take hours to complete so perhaps halves should be shortened as stated in the video.
Next step after that is commercial breaks and that would ruin football for good.
Shortening halves would ruin football
Sounds like, but the one thing that's always kept football as such is it's flow.
I get that time wasting inherently ruins that, and thus bringing a stop clock system would work, but part of the tactics of football IS clock management, and I feel like there just has to be a better way to police those who waste too much time.
TBH more frequent bookings for time wasting would be good. Referees can understand things such as a player wiping off a wet ball, a team being shit at creating an open target for the throw, or a ball boy retrieving the ball, but this nonsense of waiting and moving up, and wasting time that way would be easy to spot. A ref simply telling a player to hurry up (or the closest linesman) would work.
Aloysius Quek It wouldn’t though. In the 45 min half that we have now, some half’s only have around 30-35 mins of EPT either way. It wouldn’t change how long it takes to watch a game or how long players have to play. It would just ensure that all teams play the exact same amount of time and that the trailing team is not disadvantaged.
@@CrippledFapper Yeah, if they're gonna put ad breaks in during the match then they can stick it up their arse but if not then I'd go with EPT.
A few ideas:
1. Impose a time limit on various situations when the ball is out of play. For example, 5s for a throw in, 6s for goal kick, 10s for a corner kick, etc. Violation of the rule will result in automatic turn over. Under this rule, if the goalie takes too long to kick off, the opponent is rewarded with a free kick inside the penalty box, from the spot where the ball was.
2. Don't stop the game for substitutions (except serious injuries). Let the 4th official control it.
3. Stop the clock for serious injuries, goal celebrations, and free kicks.
4. If the injury is serious enough to stop the clock, the injured player(s) must leave the game and not return. If a team run out of subs, tough luck.
Nobody this is so dumb
That is for the MLS...This is part of the Football, no change nothing, the people enjoy it anyway for more of a century.
With the fourth rule you are literally rewarding fouls. That would call for a highly aggressive game where there's no football, just cheap tactics to lessen the number of players in the rival team.
Been here since you were called "UMaxIt". Amazing what y'all have done. Incredible stuff. Please keep it up!
i really like the idea of ept. it makes the most sense. and as for time outs for ads there arent any timeouts in football. players can still kill the momentum of a game by taking their time w restarts though.
45 minutes for each half, 5 substitutions, being 2 of those only of previously sacked players, EPT with stadium clock.
There's EPT in indoor football and it works greatly.
I would like to see referees have the ability to turnover play for timewasting. For example, if a goalkeeper is taking too long to take a goal kick, the referee should award a corner to the other team instead.
that would go down so bad with fans bro imagine the abuse the ref would get if he pulled that one hahaha
south korea approves
I have always thought the amount of added time is inaccurate. In stoppage time, someone would waste a full 30 seconds, but the ref would blow right at the pre determined added time, disregarding that 30 seconds wasted during the added time. It just encourages time wasting, because it truly works, give the right amount of added time after 90 minutes, and players wouldn’t have the incentive to waste time
Two simple things to radically transform the sport:
1. Stop the clock when the ball is out of play
2. Mic the ref
That would be weird to have the refs stand in one place and explain the call like they do in American football
@@bulgarianmineshaft1913 what’s weird about it ?
Allowing self-passing, requiring players being subbed to leave at the nearest touchline, and enforcing the 6 second rule on keepers is a great start and simple to do now. Stopping the clock after goals and at substitutions are easy ones to do as well.
Why doesn't football introduce pausing the clock? What is so difficult about it? Why can't a group of hundreds of people & several associations think up this simple thing?
The game would last longer....who the hell wants to watch a 3 hour game......
Shark Team of course you need to reduce the time of the game, like 30 minutes each half
Because commercail breaks are not something any fan want to have in football.
@@CrippledFapper Why do you keep commenting this on each comment about stopping the clock? In order to have commercial breaks during a game there would need to be an actual game stoppage of at least 30 seconds to a minute to fit ads in. This type of stoppage happens frequently in sports like basketball and the NFL, which is why there are so many ad breaks. To achieve this in football, you would have to fundamentally change the way the game is played to allow for these multiple extended stoppages. Stopping the game clock for things like throw-ins and goal kicks does not equate to stopping the flow of the game. These events do not typically take even close to 30 seconds most of the time, so why would pausing the clock allow for an ad? The only realistic situation I can see for an ad break during the game is for a serious injury that takes several minutes to get the player off the field. In my opinion it would be acceptable to go to a commercial break in that instance.
@@bluejew6969 There you are wrong. In those ad infected sports the commercial breaks take much more time than the stoppage would normally take. What stops money greedy TV companies or worst of them all FIFA and UEFA not to give in a 30 seconds commercial break now and then during a ordinary throw in or goal kick for like once or twice in each half for starters? It's done in other sports with stopping time so it's only the matter of time before it reaches football too if we start stopping the time
2:17 For anyone who doesn't know, that's Rui Patrício, Portugal's goalkeeper and Vladimir Putin. Didn't know he was a referee.
Football in narrow spaces of time, never thought about that but i think it's part of the game, it's not nessary and not sure if it is for the better to reduce the waste of time, but the article itself is great and opened my eyes about how much effort given to calculate alot of things in the world of football at the last decade
In the description you said....you said....Soccer World Cup !!!!!!! Blasphemy!!!!!!! Now go back and change this......NOW !!!! Great job again on your channel. Very good.
I like how the clock stops during injuries etc during a rugby game and that the game will keep on playing over the allotted time until the ball goes dead. It’s a transparent system but also adds additional drama to the end when one team is desperate to keep possession for one last chance and the other only needs to kick the ball out of play.
I think they are times when a stopclock should not be used in football..(if it was brought in)...so consider the time after a goal is scored and the restart...We won't stop the clock for that as it would be considered a natural ending point, players are allowed to celebrate a goal and should be allowed to do so..
2 half's of 30 minutes EPT sounds really interesting. All of the teams will play the same amount of minutes during the whole season also defensive style of play will be way less effective(defending for 45 mins EPT vs defending for 60 mins EPT). Which will result in more attractive football and more goal. This kind of change will even work better with VAR. Not sure about what the downsides are, maybe the length increase of a single match to around 20-30 mins longer can be seen as a downside.
You sure about defensive play being less effective? The tiki-taka style defence, where you just roll the ball around in non-dangerous ways will be more utilised compared to parking the bus and punting it forwards. Personally, I loathe the slow possesion oriented 1-0 defence. I really can't think of any more boring football to watch.
2 dislikes from de Gea and neymar
lmao
Imagine playing a half and looking up at the board and you have 14 extra minutes
The problem with a number of these changes is they may not necessarily work at a lower level. Especially the pausing of a clock.
What's so difficult about the referee pushing a button on his stopwatch?
My little sisters handball team is able to do it. They are 9. I'm sure a group of grown men are able to as well.
@@GardEngebretsen i think you never saw playing regional games lol
Easy mode:
You have 5 seconds from when the ref blows the whistle to continue play to act your action(goal kick, corner, foul etc)
If you go over the 5 seconds, you get a yellow card and the team and player are fined xxx amount of money, per offence.
As for injuries: They have 10-15 seconds to get up and continue play, if they can't then players will be dragged(assissted) off the pitch immediately by medical staff or their own team mates(no faffing about, you get off ASAP) and can be attended to at the side of the pitch.
If they are cleared and allowed back on, after a minimum time of 2-5 minutes of being checked on, they must wait until a stoppage in the game(goal kick, corner etc) and the ref signals to let them return.
If no injury is found, they return before the ref allows, or they waste time getting off the pitch(ref's discretion), then they are given a yellow card and the team and player are fined xxx amount of money, per offence.
ANY arguing(note arguing, not discussion, ref's discretion which is which) with the ref will be met with a yellow and a removal from the game, of that player, for 5-15 minutes(ref's discretion).
Continued arguing with the ref, after a punishment has already been given to your team, may result in fines and or bans of players for x amount of games.
It's about time refs were given some respect like in Rugby. If bulky 6ft+ men that could tear your head off can respect a small man telling them what to do without punching him in the face, then some pussy twats who worry more about their hair than they do the game, can do the same.
If players, and teams, are going to encourage fucking about, time wasting and faking injuries to get penalties/free kicks etc, then the FA/FIFA need to grow a pair and start kicking some ass.
i think they should play with a clock like in which there are two timers
like in timer A: it should count the time which is being played normally in
and in timer B: wheneven an inury or whatever happens or when the ball is out of play the second timer should start and when the ball is back on the play then from timer A the time oftimer B should be subtracts
( keep it mind when the ball is out of play the timer A is still ticking with timer B) this is an alternative if they dont want to stop the clock
The obvious solution is to just implement EPT that would totally eradicate time wasting all together. It wouldn't really be difficult to implement either.
sean dyche, the pope of time wasting
That's why he throw away 2 goals lead in 5 minutes against Manchester United right?
@@czrrok You can't waste time if you lose the ball.
José mouton
With pope
Nicholas Watts was Pope a pun?
Case in point from the EPL game on Monday 11th February between Wolves and Newcastle: Newcastle started time wasting from the 12th minute to disrupt the flow of the game. Not a problem with that, as it’s a good technique when it works. The players on the pitch were telling each other to slow the game down as they held onto their 1 goal lead which is good game management.
However, when the referee stipulated a minimum of 4 minutes of injury time, “master tactician” Rafa Benitez, decided that the 90th minute was the perfect time for a substitution, which wasted time as injury time was starting and more time was wasted taking the free kick that allowed the break in play for the substitute to happen.
The referee correctly only began injury time from the moment the free kick was taken, which was around the 91st minute, and Wolves managed to grab an equaliser in the 95th minute.
So it’s nice to see that time wasting can also backfire on teams as well.
Video's subject matter made even more relevant with the advent of VAR, where officials themselves seem oblivious of the duration for which they stop the action to consult. A fresh case in point is the recent AFCoN final...
American here ... the running clock is my favorite thing about world football. American Football and Basketball, time stoppages are the worst part of the games. It slows everything down and now we just get spammed with commercials. A 60 minute game takes 4 hours to play
I heartily welcome these measures. Time wasting is incredibly frustrating. The only thing I'll miss is the sight of a team who, at one goal up, having wasted half the match, suddenly concede two goals and find themselves without any time to rectify it.... hehehehe
well imporving this would definately make the gap even wider between small clubs vs big clubs becuase small club usually win games using these tactics of wasting time. for me the most frustrating thing has always been players going down with cramps to burn time. i think the player who has cramps should be carried off immediately no questions asked .
The most simple solution is also the easiest one to implement: Effective playing time, such as used in basketball and indoor soccer would eliminate all time-wasting behaviour period. Simply because there is no time to be wasted as the clock isn't ticking. No arbitrary stoppage time anymore either.
To implement it, researchers would just have to work out how much effective playing time is needed to get to a total game-time of 90 -100 minutes by analyzing EPT in all matches across multiple leagues and other competitions in say the last 15 years and appoint a sideline-referee has to be appointed to manage the game clock (like in NBA basketball). Et violá! No more annoying and unsporting behaviour in our beautiful game related to time waisting!
As for other annoying behaviours like flopping, theatrics to influence the referee to give the opponent a card, asking the referee to give the opponent a card and excessive (and aggressively) complaining to a referee: zero-tolerance = yellow card. At first, it would generate quite a lot of red cards (due to double yellow's) and lead to a bit of chaos and uproar, but within a few months, our sport would be cured of all that cancerous behaviour.
Looking at rugby for ideas seems a good way to look at this. They stop the clock for some things but not others. Time wasted taking set pieces in football is never added on though at the end currently and refs only seem to brandish the odd yellow card for it when they feel like it. Hard to know how to get round this.
Something else I would like to see to help stop delaying is the use of "blood subs". I have got rather fed up of seeing a player start his treatment om the field for a minute, go off to be patched up to then see clearly his problem hasn't been 100% solved. Blood subs could solve this problem and insure a team isn't a man down whilst the player is treated.
I have been thinking about this for a few years. I think there should be a "play clock" for each throw in and goal kick. If the player does not put the ball in play before the time runs out, he gets a yellow. I had not thought about having the player play the ball to himself, but that would be an option if they have nobody near them. I had thought about having the subbed player walk out the nearest line, but ALSO have a timer for this. If they are not off in, say, 10 seconds, they get carded. I think those were the two I came up with. I had not thought much about foul situations. I guess that if there is no foul or anything, the ref can see it in the VAR and yellow card the player for wasting time.
Thoroughly support EPT in the professional game (perhaps with the time starting when the ball is available and the game ready for the restart, with a tight play clock to put it in play and a turnover if the time runs out).
Would also like to see rugby's end-of-half rules adopted where play continues when time is up, until it goes out of play. (Excluding free kicks, penalties, drop balls, and maybe corners)
Can you do a video on the limitations and advantages of var ,cus it has been quite puzzling
To add on, the limitations behind it are already existing limitations behind refereeing; misjudgment (rarer occasions), rigged calls, not enough POV cameras(but field refs only have one POV themselves), etc.
i‘m still baffled even with the VAR they still managed to help real madrid against atletico
Tons of advantages that you should be able to think up yourself. The limitations are mostly caused by football rules being written too vaguely like what is a handball, when is a tackle a foul and when is it not stuff like that should be written down very clearly. The other limitation is that we only check rulings that are game changing but often not what happened before them. E.G. a throw-in for the wrong teams results in a freekick for the wrong team which may result in a goal. This is hard to combat since people want to have a fair game but dont want to consult the var on every decision.
The biggest problem for fans imo is that many expected there to be 0 wrong calls after vars introduction which is simply impossible. Whenever something is not corrected or not ruled in favor of their team (most often caused by said vague rules like handball and so on) they call var bs completly ignoring that game changing wrong calls are almost absent now and the alternative being more bad calls and games decided by the ref.
@@ralfrudi3963 Very well said.
Well the referees shouldn't be given any right to interfere in between the var procedures ,instead the referees behind the screen should have the last say ,this tends to be more meaningful
Add someone in the VAR room who's job it is to track time wasting. They then tell the 4th official how much added time there should be. Once there are a few instances of 20 minutes added time, teams and players will stop their antics and bring it down to somewhat normal levels.
great video as always.
you put lots of effort into these and they are very great time killers and teach me lots as well.
That is the reason why I almost totally stopped watching football. Very often no action and it takes too much time. I still love playing it, though.
About time the rules get tighter on this. If they were back in the day, Ferguson would lose many of the points gained in the injury time and the pressure he put on refs which was not professional from his part. Young would clean the ball till the markings get erased before he threw the ball in.
Excellent video. yes, the "powers that be" have to get off their behinds and make changes (beyond simply straining themselves to monitor more accurate added time!) to address the time-wasting issue.
Also, they are going to have to eventually seriously address getting more scoring into the game somehow.
"Still to recover from ideological hack" 😂 Tifo that was fantastic. I request a video on Argentina's FA problems and why there not producing any talent.
Another great video by you guys! I really dont care how, I just want it to change for my Sunday League games as well as Leagues and Cups in professional play. Neymar rolling around the pitch made me hate him although hes incredibly talented and fun to watch.
I'm so for this. This shit kills the game. And from what I can tell, would help to entice more Americans to watch the sport we love.
One of the other issues with timekeeping is that quite often, after the injury time referees don't want to stop during a passage of play. They should do what Rugby Union does and say once the additional time is up, the game stops when the ball is next out of play
All it takes is for the ref to stop the clock when he blows his whistle. When the ball travels behind either goal line and resume play once the corner kick or goal kick is taken. It can still be a free flowing game, it just needs better time management from the officials.
I was at that Cardiff v Burnley match and apart from the result really enjoyed the game.
While reading the comment section, I see that some people think that stopping the clock will solve the problem, but in my opinion more complex protocols are required. We need to discourage players from wasting time because it ruins the flow of the game, and it may affect the momentum of a team.
Here are some ideas that I have:
-Limit the usage of VAR technology. Referees will not use VAR voluntarily. A team is allowed to ask for a VAR revision only three times per game.
-Create a protest protocol. Players can only discuss a decision by a referee if they want to ask for VAR technology. Only the captains of both teams and the players involved in a VAR revision are allowed to discuss with the referee. Any other player discussing with the referee will receive a yellow card.
At any other circumstance, if a player protests any decision made by the referee, the referee will give the player a yellow card for lack of respect.
-Reduce time-wasting due to injury. Any player that remains in the ground may receive medical treatment immediately. In this case, the clock will be stopped. If the player doesn't receive medical treatment immediately, the referee will give the player 20 seconds to get up or allow him to call for medical assistance. If 20 seconds have passed, the referee will make a signal to stop the clock. In this case, medical assistance will be mandatory and the player will be given a yellow card for time-wasting. Players who receive medical assistance will have to leave the field but will be able to return with the permission of the referee whenever the ball is out of play.
-Punish time-wasting. Referees will give a team 20 seconds to make goal-kicks, indirect free-kicks, and throw-ins. If 20 seconds have passed, the opposing team will be awarded with a throw-in, a free-kick, or a corner-kick.
If these protocols are followed, I don't think it is necessary to stop the clock every single free-kick or when the ball is out of play. Also, no added time will be necessary.
Something has to happen and quickly. Time wasting is ruining the game. We need to see these players play, not wasting the price I have paid for my ticket. EPT sounds like a brilliant idea.
One thing they could do is give a max time (eg 30 seconds) for a substitution to take place. If this isn't completed then the team lose one of their substitutions, or if it's the last one they lose that player and have to finish with 10 men. Wouldn't apply for injuries
Wait... stoppage time should've be 14 MINUTES?!?! This is excellent information.
I detest time wasting. Fake injuries ( rolling around the pitch with hand in the air) and subtitutions are the worst. I hope the data gathered is being delivered to the correct governing boards and something is done immediately. Time wasting is destroying the beautiful game.
. If we want to reduce the amount of time wasting, the referee could implement a 5-8 second time rule for throw ins and goal kicks (like basketball) and if the team fails to get the ball back in play in that amount of time, a turnover occurs and the opposing team takes the throw in or a corner kick. As for injuries and Neymar, the referee could also implement disciplinary action for time wasting, resulting in a yellow card. As for stoppage time, adding 14 minutes onto the end of a match is a joke. Stoppage time is not supposed to be accurate, it’s supposed to give a general amount of extra time to make up for time the ball is spent out of play during a match. If football wanted to be accurate about the time, the clock would wind down from 90 instead of count up from zero.
When the MLS started, it has a stadium clock that the referee would stop every time there was foul or medical assistance was needed, the idea was scratched afterwards
great content, i always hoped that one day football will become a clean sport like basketball.
Your graphics are so awesome. Thank you!
Great video (as always), and the music made me feel like I was going to war, but like, in a good way.
I had this crazy idea there should be a kind of net around pitch like an indoor sports thing so the ball never goes out for throwings or goalkick, just bounce it off and continue, well there are so many things wrong with it I know but wouldn't it be cool to have constant continuous football like that
I really have thought for a long time (no pun intended) that they SHOULD stop the clock when substitutes happen and when there are injuries
Diving as a time wasting strategy is easy fixed, Rugby League in Australia has a point accumulation system for assessing penalties for dirty players and this idea is transferable to football and diving if someone is caught diving in a match they receive points against their name for the season and the more diving occurs the harsher the penalty received, players like Neymar would stop diving if they knew one more would risk a long term suspension
Stopping the clock for subs would be a big improvement to begin with. For injuries I'd like it to be if the player hasn't gotten back to his feet in 15 seconds the clock stops and physio comes on, if the same player gets up and then goes straight back down minutes later the clock stops. Still add on time for the ball going out of play. Have it controlled by the var officials so time is all accounted for, no more referees making up numbers based on their opinion. Yes games will be longer, but do we really need all the pre-amble and analysis.
The EPT idea of 30 minute halves could be a slippery slope to 15 minute quarters... But honestly I would take that if it meant better accuracy of timekeeping than we have now
So going back to my last post 70-80 minute in-play/effective playing time clock for pro game 90 minute continuous clock/injury time system for everyone else…… only other change is last league games of the season and last World Cup group games might need all 2nd halfs starting at same time on top of the 1st half kickoff times as at present … and games finish after game clock has run down and ball goes out of play or legal goal is scored or ball touches the ground outside either penalty area and winning team has 100% control of the ball for s second.
Thanks for mentioning Jan Tomaszewski nice to see someone appreciate him
Either you stop the clock when the ball is not in play, or you accept the nature of the game, for the most part.
That being said, one thing I find baffling is timing as related to injuries because it's so obviously easy to solve without altering timing rules significantly. If you require treatment, you must leave the pitch for an extended period of time (a few minutes, at least 5) or maybe even require substitution. Also, stop the clock for any injury requiring treatment.
Great video. I'm looking forward for most of these measures since 2010.
I like how American college soccer prevents time wasting by stopping the clock during substitutions & injuries while having no stoppage time.
Hey guys, how about a video that explains potential brexit effects on the premier league and its financial dominance? Maybe you’ve done it but haven’t seen one. Thank you and keep at it, great channel!!
Stopping the clock seems like a simple and effective measure to tackle the time wasting problem. Diving and Simulation should result in 3 match ban by the FA like they do with 'violent conducts'. Also, if the players don't take a throw in within 6-7 seconds the throw should be awarded to the opposing team.
Awesome work Tifo as usual
Way to complicated.
Easiest solution --> Ice-Hockey
The moment the game gets interrupted, the time stops.
That way you cant even waste time, except ofc if you pass the ball back and forth with the goalie, but that can also be done in ice-hockey...
I don't know why a simple solution such as actually stopping the clock when the ball is not in play , is not taken into consideration , Handball , Basketball and other sports use it and it's so effective , especially with the addition of VAR , some matches became really unwatchable and i don't think that there's any better option than stopping the clock and getting rid of extra-time since leading teams waste it anyway.
Do a comparison between de gea’s time spent taking goal kicks and other passes, and edersons , n order to see if this is really a broader problem or one specific to certain teams, players, managers and football philosophies
There are studies made. The biggest factor is the result, not the philosophies. Teams that are winning take longer than teams that are tied. Team that are losing are faster than teams that are tied or winning.
Do what they do in Rugby whenever there is a stoppage stop the clock until the ball is back in play . At 90 minutes clock goes red and play continues until the ball goes out of play
Why not just stop the clock when ball is out of play?
Cut games down to 40 min if length is an issue.
All that time wasting makes games even longer anyway.
I think stopping the clock, we'll see less dramatic injuries.
I don’t really know but when come to World Cup I glue to each game.
Here is an idea for the six seconds rule; a keeper takes longer than that and he's shown a mandatory yellow. This rule should also apply to players taking throw ins.
effective playing-time is NOT a radical change. Literally every other sport does it. They could also implement a system where it is effective playing time for let's say the last 10 minutes
Watching some games in Brazil is really tough,because this kind of behaviour takes much of the playing time.
EPT seems the most logical step to take, if we stop the clock every time the whistle is blown we will end up with matches lasting 3 hours like American sports
de Gea does this on a regular basis. In the last match (vs Fulham) he had a row with Mitrovic over this.
Stop the clock when the ball stops. Limit goalkeepers to five seconds to return the ball to play on non-stoppages (this should create more mistakes and thus more scoring), and since the game will be "longer" increase subs to 4 and/or reduce to 70 minutes. Simple. Make football great again and get Neymar playing again!
That is for the MLS...This is part of the Football, no change nothing, the people enjoy it anyway for more of a century.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I have not seen anyone mention the time wasting in that United game at Wembley which was disgraceful and not the mark of a “big” team like United. They were time wasting before they even scored!! They are a still a shit team and winning a few games in a row against small clubs then defending with 10 men behind the ball against any decent team does not mean you’re “back”. I think the CL game last night proved just that.