A lot of the humour in Debiteuren Crediteuren can’t be transferred through subtitles. Mostly it’s based on very typical Dutch mannerisms, which add up into a hyperbole of how lame the typical office life is. I love this show, but I don’t think it was a good suggestion for you to watch.
I also agree......Jiskefet i(in general) is excellent with their physical humor but a lot is lost in translation here or has a cultural aspect that you need to be somewhat aware about to "get" the joke.
Imagine if he had picked the episode with Hans Teuwen as Sinterklaas.. or the one in which they 'taught' Edgar how to play 'stiften'.. I guess it'd be inexplicable to anyone who hasn't been raised dutch what makes these episodes hilarious to (many) dutchmen.
Loekie de leeuw was a puppet character that acted in the time for the commercials to make that a bit more bearable. Usually some wierd, dumb or funny happened and he would use his catchphrase: Asjemenou!
Jiskefet was a comedy team (the 3 guys) which had a tv sketch show. At some point they added this Debiteuren Crediteuren bit at the end. It was so successful they made a separate show of it. It is a spoof on a generic Dutch office. They way they say good morning for example, everybody jokingly said that at the coffee machine. These things and other nuances are a bit lost in translation I'm afraid.
Debiteuren Crediteuren is the best Jiskefet has ever done. So funny 😄 They always start in the same way with a joke about the tramstop and their lunch box contents. It's really easy to start connecting with the characters even after watching only one episode. So the more you watch, the funnier everything they do gets ;)
like others say, Jiskefet, either Debiteuren Crediteuren or Lulllo's have many references to typical Dutch accents, expressions, or customs. Debiteuren Crediteuren als make use of repetition every show, when the employees start "working", to emphasize the repetition of doing the same thing every day, like you see with typical administration officer/civil servants jobs. So its a persiflage or parody of the boring 9 to 5 job and doing nothing. "Storm", the big guy is their typical alpha boss, always bragging, claims he was at the commandos. My fav scene is from the show "Stiften".
Suggestion: watch "Sinterklaas" by debiteuren crediteuren (Jiskefet) or even better: anything from "Van Kooten en de Bie" or even "Rembo en Rembo" (by the way, this Rembo stuff was meant for young children, I still love it)
Loekie de Leeuw (Loekie The Lion) is a Dutch tv mascot that showed up when commercial blocks started and ended. It was a real puppet, kinda like the Muppets, that was a 30sec sketch on its own. Always doing something that reflected what was happening at the time like World Cup, Olympics or seasonal things etc.
Great show, "Debts and credits" by Jiskevet. The key thing is that, like in 'every' office, virtually every day the same thing happens again. "Debts and credits" took this concept, and took off with it: every time the same thing actually happens, but with a different twist.👴👌😁
I think you also should watch one of Jiskefet - De Lullo's. For context: It's about a couple of guys who are everlasting students. Loekie de Leeuw (lion) was years ago used as an intermission in between commercial breaks on national television, some sort of a mascotte. There are several clips posted on RUclips.
They were big in the 90s and 00s with, comments on every day live in some dull office, the cheesy jokes etcetera, they were even visited by Sinterklaas, a special episode.(Loekie btw is the dutch animation in between commercials, Loekie also comes along when they do their sketches of arrogant advertisers , also with the hilarious Fritsie.)
It's just terrible dad joke after dad joke, which makes it funny again. And often the same jokes come back. Like throwing part of their lunch in the bin, Storm with his big stories and Ms Jannie without facial expressions. So nostalgic to see it again.
If've notice that Dutch and English humor pretty much the same is, specaly sketch but i tried to translate a Dutch joke. No way that doesn't work at all i just discover these uploads ❤fantastic 😂😂😂😂
You should watch the Jiskefet Debiteuren Crediteuren episode with Sinterklaas in it, the first one, the one in the office setting. It wat quite controversial back then. 😄
Loekie de Leeuw was a series of stop motion interludes between commercials. That is why the different trained tiny lions is hilarious 😂 A lot has two meanings or hidden layers. Juffrouw Jannie remembered the last movie sje saw with her sister. And at that time the sound of music was allready "old" ... There is more there
Heeeeey lullooo!😂 And btw not any translation can do this justice. You really have to be dutch and from that timeperiod to understand. And yeah this was The Office way before the office. You know us dutch invent everything. 😎
A lot is lost in translation😂. And what you should know, this show is 90% improvisation. They'll try to set each other up, but always stay in character. Briljant! But you should watch "Heerlijk Avondje" episode with Sinterklaas😂😂
There is a lot of wordplay in this series, a lot of things don’t really translate well in English unfortunately. Here is 90 minutes of Loekie de Leeuw 😉 ruclips.net/video/Fg-JynKe-Qs/видео.htmlsi=npIiqXcPGMyn6K-Y
Loeki de Leeuw (Loeki the Lion) were ultra short comedic stop-motion intermezzo's featuring a puppet lion between commercials on Dutch public television between 1972 and 2004. There were some (not many) commercial blocks on Dutch public television, and every now and then Loeki de Leeuw would have a 5 to 10 second appearance in between commercials. They always ended with Loeki saying 'Asjemenou!' in surprise. (Loosely translated 'well, have you ever!' or 'what the heck!') Here is a 90(!) minute compilation ruclips.net/video/Fg-JynKe-Qs/видео.htmlsi=ywEjH60NqQ3FCMYw
There's a lor of In- and Recurring Jokes happening. Like, Jos Usually starts his entrance with "So, I was at the Tram stop..." (every single episode). Which makes it even funnier, Suggesting in this mundanity, Office workers have no better stories to tell other than what happened at the Bus Stop that morning.
If I may give a suggestion to watch later: Jiskefet - Clown met Chauffeur. I don’t know if there’s a translated version of it. Or if it will translate at all, but it’s in my opinion one of their best sketches. It’s basically portraying everything wrong with today’s attention economy, in a hilarious way. In my opinion of course.
They did a series of this. Every episode consisted of about the same scenario of jokes with minor changes. Really showed the boredom of everyday office life..,
part of the charm is the repetitiveness, it always starts pretty much the same, they check what's in the luchbox, talk some shit, never work, and then things escalate usually around the Stom character
I think it's very difficult for non Dutch people to grasp all the humour. I would say even people that live in the Netherlands for quite a while don't nearly get all the jokes.
You should really try to find some 'Van Kooten en de Bie' unfortunately not many available with English subtitles. They were the absolute top in television satire. For decades. So much so that they invented words that are staples in the Dutch language to this very day. Words and sayings like 'doemdenker' (doom-thinker), 'regelneef' (literally: arranging cousin, meaning someone who always manages to arrange something to the finest detail more often than not to the great annoyance of others), kneukfilm (a movie with sex and violence), 'mag ik even een teilje', 'op hun pik getrapt', and so many more
It portraits the typical "funny" guy, the submissive insecure law abiding guy and the pretent tough guy. Check out the "Stiften" sketch from debiteuren crediteuren. I think it's the best one.
Think you must be Dutch to understand the humor. When they made it they used the lifestyle of 15 years earlier, generic Dutch office, wearing generic clothes, mannerisms of the 'proper' -conservative- middle class, boring lives -a time where the job you had was for the rest of your life-, a time where many Dutch people prepared bread at home and took it to their work (read: their wives prepared the bread) and threw half away in the bin as it was too dry, etc... And the one with' Sinterklaas', as recommended by others, was most memorable. Throwing bread away and working at such an office (probably also dated clothes) was also part of my life in Groningen from age 19 to 25.
17:30 The Dutch version of the office :D?? Uuh, how about we flip that one, boss. The office (UK or USA) is the English version of Debiteuren Crediteuren. Classsssssic Dutch comedy! Sad you didn’t have better subs, but i have the feeling the did get it
look at this one Jiskefet - Debiteuren Crediteuren - Sinterklaas (Sinterklaas used to be the Dutch Santa Claus) ruclips.net/video/gmEioot9u7M/видео.html you will be in shock :))
The "ham and eggs" sketch of Jiskefet is for English people also great... "At the south of Brighton"... If you look it's in the sea 😂... But ham and eggs looks like "helemaal niks (which means nothing at all in Dutch)". ruclips.net/video/oxWYQ-bTVOM/видео.htmlsi=Vk-wmf6T2oBxzMDo
Its the single most dry humor we have to offer in our country. Not sure if you can grasp all humor if you arent fimmiliar with Dutch culture. Its mostly about how absurd Dutch office life is. Boomers acting all macho and sexist while they look like absolute nerds. Very accurate. The 3rd guy that comes in always brags that he used to be in army service. Also a very Dutch boomer thing to do. Very weird. Always loved it.
These are the 'Loekie de Leeuw' clips that were played in between commercials on the Dutch Public TV stations. ruclips.net/video/dHRXGaF0teQ/видео.htmlsi=GfqNVDpiIzjs5LO_
Yeah it's a parody of a generic office. Every episode had the same routine. The guy on the left with his daily "i was waiting at the tram platform" joke, and then checking out what their wifes put on their bread, throwing the fruit away ("toedeledokie!") because supposedly it's lame to bring fruit or so. And then their boss (Storm) comes in, taking out a random binder with papers from the cabinet, telling exaggerated stories about when he was in the commandos. And miss Jannie bringing coffee, sometimes with strange cookies on the side. And Edgar often telling a story that leads nowhere, with an abrupt ending. And Jannie telling a story, but she's always completely ignored. That pretty much sums up every episode. And their laughs and accents are funny, ghe ghe ghe ghe, whenever someone laughs like that, everybody still immediately thinks of Jiskefet. The translated subtitles don't really do it justice, a lot of expressions with their over the top accents are difficult to translate. But you get the point. 🙂What a great show. And no, miss Jannie is not a guy haha. The actress is Annet Malherbe, if you want to look her up. Regarding Loeki de Leeuw (Loeki the Lion), he's a stuffed animal, in the Netherlands he is shown on the public broadcasters with short 5 second funny clips in between commercials. Just for fun, there's nothing commercial behind it or so. He has been there since the 70s. Just look for Loeki on youtube, you'll find a ton of examples. He was gone from tv for 20 years, but he was reintroduced a few years back so you can find newer clips as well.
This is one of my favorites 'De Dierenwinkel - De Fret You'll love it...we used to watch every episode of Jiskefet, back in the 90's. ruclips.net/video/0g9pDl9-Uww/видео.htmlsi=gF9qQwpjRX1OJNgV
Jos is the cunning type. Edgar tries to keep up with Jos but never succeeds. Storm is a failed ex commando/green baret always bragging and exagerating and juffrouw Annie is too sweet to be taken seriously. It always starts pff with the same morning routine. 'Goede 's morgens. Edgar.' 'Ik stond daarnet bij de tramhalte.' The disposal of 'wat moeder de vrouw nou weer gemaakt heeft'. Juffrouw Jannie die koffie met iets lekkers komt brengen. A lot of it is playing with language. Laughing everything away. Keeping up the spirit. It's advanced simpelmindedness a la Monty Pyton.
you kind of have to do a few episodes, it has a lot of repetitive things. The joke in the beginning, the complaining about the food, the crazy guy with his stories every day at the same time... kind of have to learn the characters and their traits. Stiften is a good one. Flap as well.
I'ds really love to see your reaction on the Sinterklaas episode of Jiskefet haha. It might be a bit too much though haha ruclips.net/video/gmEioot9u7M/видео.html
A funny and essential aspect is the accent they speak with. That's hard to translate in English. It's a parody of an office somewhere on the countryside of very normal bourgeois civil servants who are known as people who do not or hardly work.
@ Dat fabeltje ken ik ja, maar zo werkt het in de praktijk niet. Overheidsorganisaties hebben geen afdeling debiteuren/crediteuren, ze werken immers van belastinggeld. Die verstuurt de 'rekeningen', debiteuren en crediteuren zijn privaatrechtelijke verhoudingen en ambtenaren werken binnen bestuursrechtelijke verhoudingen.
I have no idea how this workst but have a look at the link below... Waardenburg and De Jong... needs no translation.. ruclips.net/video/XoGVdbbOiEI/видео.htmlsi=bZmdbC5mzUoT1z-_
Many of the jokes require some deeper understanding of Jiskefet - including clear (repeating) use of antihumor at the opening of the sketch (ridiculing bad comedy - with that poorly timed 'laughing machine' at the background. Jiskefet were always masters of capturing very subtle societal phenomenons that are easily overlooked by comedians - to then create full-blown stereotypes of a previously missed group (in this case low-ambition people with irrelevant office jobs). They also master various regional Dutch accents (in this case Brabant southern dialect).
(Repeating joke is also that Edgar - first appearing character - is mentally incapable of even understanding the simplest jokes - so he's laughing but then repeating a sideline instead of the punchline. It's all much more subtle then it appears. Here they are just trolling bad comedy in general - as their hidden joke...)
Yeah no.. Jiskefet was a bad recommendation.. the humor does not translate at all. It's about how lame office life is, especially in the late 80's early 90's in the Netherlands.. at a time where memes did not exist and people had nothing but alcohol, cigarettes and vacations in Spain to keep themselves happy. Remember when Peter Griffin from family guy hurts his knees and sits there for way to long complaining about how it hurts by making noises? This is the comedy equivalent of it.. way too drawn out beyond becoming uncomfortable. Not my type of humor, I could never get into it. Watch the entire playlist of all Rundfunk episodes in sequence instead if you want true modern day comedy!
It is about the very boring office culture and the same lame jokes they make. Actually those people are living a very automated life and experience nothing besides that. The ceiling in this office is very low according to Dutch standards: our ceilings are almost always about 2 feet above the door, so much higher than in England or the USA for example. The same way our houses are build. This very low ceiling symbolizes the narrow mindedness of the work environment and the way of thinking as alike behaviour of the office personal living their so very boring lives, in that space.
It was a very mediocre performance. Not very funny either. For some inexplicable reason it was hugely popular though. I never got more than a smirk out of this series.
this show is the parody of itself. Its at time crinchy. akword, funny, weird, socialy incorrect at some points. it is on a office where they do absolute nothing work related. The men are showing off to each other but in real life their a bunch of softy's
A lot of the humour in Debiteuren Crediteuren can’t be transferred through subtitles. Mostly it’s based on very typical Dutch mannerisms, which add up into a hyperbole of how lame the typical office life is. I love this show, but I don’t think it was a good suggestion for you to watch.
I agree, because there are some episodes which are very rude, with a lot of sexual language. I never liked that kind of humour.
I also agree......Jiskefet i(in general) is excellent with their physical humor but a lot is lost in translation here or has a cultural aspect that you need to be somewhat aware about to "get" the joke.
weell he has to see a lot more of them before he gets it i think.
Imagine if he had picked the episode with Hans Teuwen as Sinterklaas.. or the one in which they 'taught' Edgar how to play 'stiften'..
I guess it'd be inexplicable to anyone who hasn't been raised dutch what makes these episodes hilarious to (many) dutchmen.
@@wilcoschipstal6417 Jiskefet is lame and I understand the language
This was 'the office' before 'The Office' by Ricky Gervais.
Yes, it's about 5 years older.
It's also the office before the office (uk) before the office (USA) before the office (Australia)
It is also the office that doesn't get paid or even credited by Ricky 😂
perfect way to describe it!
Dwight is like Jos, Edgar and Storm in 1. A goof, the fall guy and a blowhard
Loekie de leeuw was a puppet character that acted in the time for the commercials to make that a bit more bearable. Usually some wierd, dumb or funny happened and he would use his catchphrase: Asjemenou!
Which would translate to something like "golly"
Jiskefet was a comedy team (the 3 guys) which had a tv sketch show. At some point they added this Debiteuren Crediteuren bit at the end. It was so successful they made a separate show of it. It is a spoof on a generic Dutch office. They way they say good morning for example, everybody jokingly said that at the coffee machine. These things and other nuances are a bit lost in translation I'm afraid.
Sinterklaas episode of Debiteuren Crediteuren is the best one 😂
Met Hans Teeuwen als de goed heiligman. Sinterklaas moet een beetje getroost worden, en dan kan op diverse manieren.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Debiteuren Crediteuren is the best Jiskefet has ever done. So funny 😄 They always start in the same way with a joke about the tramstop and their lunch box contents. It's really easy to start connecting with the characters even after watching only one episode. So the more you watch, the funnier everything they do gets ;)
And Debiteuren Crediteuren is a satire on mundane office life. With all the typical Jiskefet humor added to it.
like others say, Jiskefet, either Debiteuren Crediteuren or Lulllo's have many references to typical Dutch accents, expressions, or customs. Debiteuren Crediteuren als make use of repetition every show, when the employees start "working", to emphasize the repetition of doing the same thing every day, like you see with typical administration officer/civil servants jobs. So its a persiflage or parody of the boring 9 to 5 job and doing nothing. "Storm", the big guy is their typical alpha boss, always bragging, claims he was at the commandos. My fav scene is from the show "Stiften".
I think a lot of Debiteuren Crediteuren wasnt scripted so they always surprise eachother with whatever they say
Suggestion: watch "Sinterklaas" by debiteuren crediteuren (Jiskefet) or even better: anything from "Van Kooten en de Bie" or even "Rembo en Rembo" (by the way, this Rembo stuff was meant for young children, I still love it)
Loekie de Leeuw (Loekie The Lion) is a Dutch tv mascot that showed up when commercial blocks started and ended. It was a real puppet, kinda like the Muppets, that was a 30sec sketch on its own. Always doing something that reflected what was happening at the time like World Cup, Olympics or seasonal things etc.
Great show, "Debts and credits" by Jiskevet.
The key thing is that, like in 'every' office, virtually every day the same thing happens again.
"Debts and credits" took this concept, and took off with it: every time the same thing actually happens, but with a different twist.👴👌😁
It is mostly absurdly humor. I love it! I love the episode “stiften”. Also if you watch more episodes you will notice the running gags.
I think you also should watch one of Jiskefet - De Lullo's. For context: It's about a couple of guys who are everlasting students. Loekie de Leeuw (lion) was years ago used as an intermission in between commercial breaks on national television, some sort of a mascotte. There are several clips posted on RUclips.
They were big in the 90s and 00s with, comments on every day live in some dull office, the cheesy jokes etcetera, they were even visited by Sinterklaas, a special episode.(Loekie btw is the dutch animation in between commercials, Loekie also comes along when they do their sketches of arrogant advertisers , also with the hilarious Fritsie.)
It's just terrible dad joke after dad joke, which makes it funny again. And often the same jokes come back. Like throwing part of their lunch in the bin, Storm with his big stories and Ms Jannie without facial expressions. So nostalgic to see it again.
If've notice that Dutch and English humor pretty much the same is, specaly sketch but i tried to translate a Dutch joke. No way that doesn't work at all i just discover these uploads ❤fantastic 😂😂😂😂
You should watch the Jiskefet Debiteuren Crediteuren episode with Sinterklaas in it, the first one, the one in the office setting.
It wat quite controversial back then. 😄
The whole show was about parodying the grey old office work culture.
Loekie de Leeuw was a series of stop motion interludes between commercials. That is why the different trained tiny lions is hilarious 😂
A lot has two meanings or hidden layers. Juffrouw Jannie remembered the last movie sje saw with her sister. And at that time the sound of music was allready "old" ... There is more there
Heeeeey lullooo!😂
And btw not any translation can do this justice. You really have to be dutch and from that timeperiod to understand.
And yeah this was The Office way before the office. You know us dutch invent everything. 😎
Hebbie nog geneukt⁉️😂
Yep this is the Office, yeaaaars before Ricky Gervais wrote it (indeed life in a generic office :)
Look up: Jiskefet - Burenruzie or Jiskefet - Boekenwinkel 🤣 Those are great!
Best episode from debiteuren crediteuren was "Heerlijk avondje"
Jiskefet - Stiften
Yes!!
Watch "Stiften", absolute favourite! Jack in the box! Stift, elleboog op tafel!
I actually fooled people with Stiften together with some friends at the time. 😅
I’m such a big fan of these sketches, I named my youngest son after this Michiel Romeyn charactar Storm
A lot is lost in translation😂. And what you should know, this show is 90% improvisation. They'll try to set each other up, but always stay in character.
Briljant! But you should watch "Heerlijk Avondje" episode with Sinterklaas😂😂
Jiskefet is gold!
There is a lot of wordplay in this series, a lot of things don’t really translate well in English unfortunately.
Here is 90 minutes of Loekie de Leeuw 😉 ruclips.net/video/Fg-JynKe-Qs/видео.htmlsi=npIiqXcPGMyn6K-Y
Loeki de Leeuw (Loeki the Lion) were ultra short comedic stop-motion intermezzo's featuring a puppet lion between commercials on Dutch public television between 1972 and 2004. There were some (not many) commercial blocks on Dutch public television, and every now and then Loeki de Leeuw would have a 5 to 10 second appearance in between commercials. They always ended with Loeki saying 'Asjemenou!' in surprise. (Loosely translated 'well, have you ever!' or 'what the heck!')
Here is a 90(!) minute compilation ruclips.net/video/Fg-JynKe-Qs/видео.htmlsi=ywEjH60NqQ3FCMYw
I think you could see it as a Dutch version of Little Britain. But than long before Little Britain was born.
There's a lor of In- and Recurring Jokes happening.
Like, Jos Usually starts his entrance with "So, I was at the Tram stop..." (every single episode). Which makes it even funnier, Suggesting in this mundanity, Office workers have no better stories to tell other than what happened at the Bus Stop that morning.
If I may give a suggestion to watch later:
Jiskefet - Clown met Chauffeur.
I don’t know if there’s a translated version of it. Or if it will translate at all, but it’s in my opinion one of their best sketches. It’s basically portraying everything wrong with today’s attention economy, in a hilarious way. In my opinion of course.
They did a series of this. Every episode consisted of about the same scenario of jokes with minor changes. Really showed the boredom of everyday office life..,
Working in the office,,,,
Zo good,,,,,,
Greats from Holland, Utrecht
Before the office….
Did you recognise them from wiedergutmachunschnitzel?
This is a parody on office workers
It's about the daily routine in the office.
part of the charm is the repetitiveness, it always starts pretty much the same, they check what's in the luchbox, talk some shit, never work, and then things escalate usually around the Stom character
I think it's very difficult for non Dutch people to grasp all the humour. I would say even people that live in the Netherlands for quite a while don't nearly get all the jokes.
You should really try to find some 'Van Kooten en de Bie' unfortunately not many available with English subtitles. They were the absolute top in television satire. For decades. So much so that they invented words that are staples in the Dutch language to this very day. Words and sayings like 'doemdenker' (doom-thinker), 'regelneef' (literally: arranging cousin, meaning someone who always manages to arrange something to the finest detail more often than not to the great annoyance of others), kneukfilm (a movie with sex and violence), 'mag ik even een teilje', 'op hun pik getrapt', and so many more
It portraits the typical "funny" guy, the submissive insecure law abiding guy and the pretent tough guy.
Check out the "Stiften" sketch from debiteuren crediteuren. I think it's the best one.
Think you must be Dutch to understand the humor. When they made it they used the lifestyle of 15 years earlier, generic Dutch office, wearing generic clothes, mannerisms of the 'proper' -conservative- middle class, boring lives -a time where the job you had was for the rest of your life-, a time where many Dutch people prepared bread at home and took it to their work (read: their wives prepared the bread) and threw half away in the bin as it was too dry, etc... And the one with' Sinterklaas', as recommended by others, was most memorable. Throwing bread away and working at such an office (probably also dated clothes) was also part of my life in Groningen from age 19 to 25.
their stand alone sketches are a lot better imho. some really weird stuff 😂
17:30 The Dutch version of the office :D?? Uuh, how about we flip that one, boss. The office (UK or USA) is the English version of Debiteuren Crediteuren. Classsssssic Dutch comedy! Sad you didn’t have better subs, but i have the feeling the did get it
look at this one
Jiskefet - Debiteuren Crediteuren - Sinterklaas (Sinterklaas used to be the Dutch Santa Claus)
ruclips.net/video/gmEioot9u7M/видео.html
you will be in shock :))
Watch Stiften and the Sinterklaas version, the best ever! Taking typical office life into the absurd.
I think the next thing you should watch is the "Picobello BV" sketch. It's by different people but is a good watch.
This is brilliantly awkward
You HAVE to be Dutch to get this. 😎
Dutch office live
The "ham and eggs" sketch of Jiskefet is for English people also great... "At the south of Brighton"... If you look it's in the sea 😂... But ham and eggs looks like "helemaal niks (which means nothing at all in Dutch)". ruclips.net/video/oxWYQ-bTVOM/видео.htmlsi=Vk-wmf6T2oBxzMDo
Its the single most dry humor we have to offer in our country. Not sure if you can grasp all humor if you arent fimmiliar with Dutch culture.
Its mostly about how absurd Dutch office life is. Boomers acting all macho and sexist while they look like absolute nerds. Very accurate.
The 3rd guy that comes in always brags that he used to be in army service. Also a very Dutch boomer thing to do.
Very weird. Always loved it.
The episode about”stiften” is unforgetable. But you have to translate it with youtube to understand it
Much better then Monthy Python.
Humor from Holland 🙂
These are the 'Loekie de Leeuw' clips that were played in between commercials on the Dutch Public TV stations.
ruclips.net/video/dHRXGaF0teQ/видео.htmlsi=GfqNVDpiIzjs5LO_
Is typically Dutch. Fortunately, he is back after a long absence!
11:03 this is where they break character and try to hold their laugh. This happens a lot because they keep surprising eachother. So much fun.
You need to check out the "Sinterklaas" episode with comedian Hans Teeuwen
ruclips.net/video/SYMuiRlLK9g/видео.htmlsi=YTnmyWFNLrlybwxl
This "Maradona" sketch is also great of them. Especially the "Si" at the end!
Asjemenou!! 🦁
MULTILUL!!
@17:30 it's random and all improvised on the fly.
Debiteuren crediteuren. Accounts receivable accounts payable.
Miss Jannie is played by the wonderful Annette Malherbe
Yeah it's a parody of a generic office. Every episode had the same routine. The guy on the left with his daily "i was waiting at the tram platform" joke, and then checking out what their wifes put on their bread, throwing the fruit away ("toedeledokie!") because supposedly it's lame to bring fruit or so. And then their boss (Storm) comes in, taking out a random binder with papers from the cabinet, telling exaggerated stories about when he was in the commandos. And miss Jannie bringing coffee, sometimes with strange cookies on the side. And Edgar often telling a story that leads nowhere, with an abrupt ending. And Jannie telling a story, but she's always completely ignored. That pretty much sums up every episode. And their laughs and accents are funny, ghe ghe ghe ghe, whenever someone laughs like that, everybody still immediately thinks of Jiskefet. The translated subtitles don't really do it justice, a lot of expressions with their over the top accents are difficult to translate. But you get the point. 🙂What a great show. And no, miss Jannie is not a guy haha. The actress is Annet Malherbe, if you want to look her up. Regarding Loeki de Leeuw (Loeki the Lion), he's a stuffed animal, in the Netherlands he is shown on the public broadcasters with short 5 second funny clips in between commercials. Just for fun, there's nothing commercial behind it or so. He has been there since the 70s. Just look for Loeki on youtube, you'll find a ton of examples. He was gone from tv for 20 years, but he was reintroduced a few years back so you can find newer clips as well.
"the office" netherlands ;)
Goh !
This was from the late eighties.....
This is one of my favorites 'De Dierenwinkel - De Fret
You'll love it...we used to watch every episode of Jiskefet, back in the 90's.
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I think the jiskefet lullo series is better to begin with
Jos is the cunning type. Edgar tries to keep up with Jos but never succeeds. Storm is a failed ex commando/green baret always bragging and exagerating and juffrouw Annie is too sweet to be taken seriously. It always starts pff with the same morning routine. 'Goede 's morgens. Edgar.' 'Ik stond daarnet bij de tramhalte.' The disposal of 'wat moeder de vrouw nou weer gemaakt heeft'. Juffrouw Jannie die koffie met iets lekkers komt brengen. A lot of it is playing with language. Laughing everything away. Keeping up the spirit. It's advanced simpelmindedness a la Monty Pyton.
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You should watch de lama's
you kind of have to do a few episodes, it has a lot of repetitive things. The joke in the beginning, the complaining about the food, the crazy guy with his stories every day at the same time... kind of have to learn the characters and their traits. Stiften is a good one. Flap as well.
I'ds really love to see your reaction on the Sinterklaas episode of Jiskefet haha. It might be a bit too much though haha
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A funny and essential aspect is the accent they speak with. That's hard to translate in English. It's a parody of an office somewhere on the countryside of very normal bourgeois civil servants who are known as people who do not or hardly work.
Typically not civil servants.
@@DenUitvreter Dus wel burgerlijke ambtenaren. Die hebben/hadden de naam weinig tot niks te doen. Dat is nou net het hele idee.
@ Debiteuren/crediteuren is een typische afdeling van een bedrijf, niet van de overheid.
@@DenUitvreter En waar leid jij dat aan af? Bij bedrijven is de kans heel klein dat je er de kantjes van af kunt lopen omdat ze commercieel zijn.
@ Dat fabeltje ken ik ja, maar zo werkt het in de praktijk niet. Overheidsorganisaties hebben geen afdeling debiteuren/crediteuren, ze werken immers van belastinggeld. Die verstuurt de 'rekeningen', debiteuren en crediteuren zijn privaatrechtelijke verhoudingen en ambtenaren werken binnen bestuursrechtelijke verhoudingen.
I have no idea how this workst but have a look at the link below... Waardenburg and De Jong... needs no translation..
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Loekie the lion animation between commercials
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Many of the jokes require some deeper understanding of Jiskefet - including clear (repeating) use of antihumor at the opening of the sketch (ridiculing bad comedy - with that poorly timed 'laughing machine' at the background.
Jiskefet were always masters of capturing very subtle societal phenomenons that are easily overlooked by comedians - to then create full-blown stereotypes of a previously missed group (in this case low-ambition people with irrelevant office jobs). They also master various regional Dutch accents (in this case Brabant southern dialect).
(Repeating joke is also that Edgar - first appearing character - is mentally incapable of even understanding the simplest jokes - so he's laughing but then repeating a sideline instead of the punchline. It's all much more subtle then it appears. Here they are just trolling bad comedy in general - as their hidden joke...)
Maybe have a look at
New Kids
You have to learn Dutch before you can really grasp most of the the absurdist Jiskefet humor. A lot of it is lost in translation.
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The thing is; its always painfull to watch. There is always a sad pittyfull unspoken undertone at some point.
Yeah no.. Jiskefet was a bad recommendation.. the humor does not translate at all. It's about how lame office life is, especially in the late 80's early 90's in the Netherlands.. at a time where memes did not exist and people had nothing but alcohol, cigarettes and vacations in Spain to keep themselves happy. Remember when Peter Griffin from family guy hurts his knees and sits there for way to long complaining about how it hurts by making noises? This is the comedy equivalent of it.. way too drawn out beyond becoming uncomfortable. Not my type of humor, I could never get into it.
Watch the entire playlist of all Rundfunk episodes in sequence instead if you want true modern day comedy!
The translation is atrocious, not doing the show any favours.
It is about the very boring office culture and the same lame jokes they make. Actually those people are living a very automated life and experience nothing besides that. The ceiling in this office is very low according to Dutch standards: our ceilings are almost always about 2 feet above the door, so much higher than in England or the USA for example. The same way our houses are build. This very low ceiling symbolizes the narrow mindedness of the work environment and the way of thinking as alike behaviour of the office personal living their so very boring lives, in that space.
It was a very mediocre performance. Not very funny either. For some inexplicable reason it was hugely popular though.
I never got more than a smirk out of this series.
Long live Scotland!
Translation would be: "Out! Good for you!"
Sent me some Scottish/English tv/comedy to watch ;-) I can do the same
this show is the parody of itself. Its at time crinchy. akword, funny, weird, socialy incorrect at some points. it is on a office where they do absolute nothing work related. The men are showing off to each other but in real life their a bunch of softy's