Kirsty Partridge Art - Always said no to them when I was actively working in jewelry. Knew instinctively I would not enjoy it and did not want the constraints of having to work to someone else’s specifications! Love you work Kirsty! So nice to see you are all so successful!!
I agree with you on the pressure. I have painted a few for family members but feeling pressured to do my best made it hard to enjoy the painting process.
I think it's a bad idea myself as having tried to open commissions and it not working. Most people want free art. So I gave up. I do requests for friends. I'm going to be quitting here soon though. I just want to art for myself anymore. I used to sell commissions in high school and people paid like 200 for some things but my work it sucked compared to now. So confused. Lol so when your work gets decidedly better no one wants to buy... XD
Hetvi Mistry Hetvi Mistry I see your replies on many comments. you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
Hetvi Mistry Hetvi Mistry I see your replies on many comments. you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
I’m a bit older and have only been drawing for a year. I’m 56. I’ve had a few people ask me to draw for them. I’m only drawing for fun. I did do one charcoal picture for my daughter in law to give to her sister. I did it for free and still felt the pressure of doing a really good job. I don’t see myself doing commissions.
I totally feel that haha. I'm younger but since I've been getting into art, my extended family members are always asking for art and they mean for free it's like what do you think I am...
Deborah Beck I’m exactly the same . I’ve done a few ‘free’ for family & friends, but the photos were dreadful, so I was stressed to death! Not doing any more.....it’s not my Idea of fun
Hi I recommend you do not give your art away as it means it is worthless. No matter who you draw or paint for relative or friend charge so ethi g if only to cover your materials.
I love doing certain commissions! Only a few months ago I did a commission for a man who just said 'take a look at my living room, the colors in my living room, the empty wall where your painting is going to be and make whatever you think is best!' It was one of the most fun Ive ever had with making a painting!
That is so cool to have someone trust you make something that will fit into the environment for which it is designed. Paintings are fine art, but they are essentially meant to decorate living spaces.
I don't mind commissions. I've made a decent amount of money doing them, but it was so sporadic that I couldn't keep it up. I also found that the more I improved, the more it seemed like I was selling myself short for what I charged. A lot of people don't realize how much work goes into drawing, and don't want to pay lots of money. I'd get requests to do comic pages, and people would want to pay $200 for me to draw a 22-page book. Sometimes they wouldn't want to pay at all. So I just stopped taking commissions.
I would much rather sell completed art. People like something created special just for them but it really puts TONS of pressure on you to deliver what they have in their own mind. I always hate the idea of disappointing them. So a finished work is so much easier. Thanks for the video ❤️😍👍
As a commercial artist right out of college, I found the business low-paying and stressful, due to rare clients, limited skill and equipment and the deadlines, perfectionist clients and difficult contract negotiations.
This is exactly why I want to set up my art business to be sustainable *without* having to do commissions. They're incredibly time-consuming and can be stressful if you're a perfectionist. To be honest, I still feel like I'm doing something wrong because it's tremendously difficult for me to get commissions in the first place, like months just to get one commission request. I keep trying because a part of me feels like I need to gather enough experience with commissions to kind of...validate myself going a different path (selling my art on products and RUclips) and to prove I can make an income. I'm still struggling to make money off my art but this video made me more confident in trying to pursue more passive venues. Thanks a lot Kirsty and keep making your lovely videos!❤
I recommend checking out Sema Martin on Instagram. She is a great artist that runs a commission based art business and gives lots of tips on how to go about getting commissions. Also, if you haven't seen it already I have got a video on 15 ways to make money as an artist that you could find useful :D Keep at it, it does take time to find clients and build up a reputation. But, keep educating yourself and persevering and it is possible.
I agree with Kirsty it takes time to grow your art career and getting more commissions. I started doing commissions for friends and family. Then they showed it to their friends and family and that's how I got a lot of work just by word of mouth. I also take photos of the commissions I complete and share them on social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.) that way they can share your photos with others. Sometimes I'll ask permission if it's a portrait of a loved one to share on social media. Not sure if that'll help anyone, but it's what helped me and I've been getting a lot of commissions that way.
Nobody goes up to a musician and says "I want you to write a song for my wife. She likes sunsets, the little farm where she grew up, horses, and streams. She also wants it to be a reggae song. And oh, how much would you charge for it?"
ive been a professional guitarist for 28 years. You wouldn't believe the crap that goes with it...never mind the constant practice..The most common things to be asked are..'do you sing?', 'do you only play guitar?', 'can you play (insert crap 3 chord pop song here)?'.
I wish you could be an art teacher my school. Honestly some teachers in my school haven't seen art since the renaissance and you would bring so much of a modern approach to things (unfortunately I do not do art at school I prefer it as a hobby) but watching your videos makes it seem like art is defiantly a achievable career (you've clearly proved that!) Thank you! xx
The art school curriculum can be very outdated, but at least there are lots of artists on RUclips making great educational and entertaining content around art. No longer do you need to rely on your actual art teacher to teach you how to draw :D
Kirsty Partridge Art No I get to have you to teach instead! 😂 which is very lucky indeed! Thank you for everything you’ve done and your videos whether they educate me or entertain me! I hope I get to say thank you in person one day xx
@@KirstyPartridgeArt I actually show my students your videos from time to time depending on what medium we're working in just so that they get a different perspective
I don’t do them anymore unless it’s a small change to something I’ve made before. I hate the back and forth part, it drives me crazy! The pressure makes me anxious too. But the communication takes so much extra time that the original cost never makes up for it.
Yes, I am very grateful for my supporters on Patreon :D Patreon is a great way for artists to make consistent monthly income, without having to worry about all of the technical sides of taking payments and dealing with VAT!
@MR PEEVES this is such a mean answer. You seem to be very priveleged or very ignorant or both. I have been there for many many years. Earned just enough to survive, not enough to live. I am now on a much higher income - but I am not working harder, actually working is much more relaxed than it used to be. U can't say ppl are poor because they are lazy, that is just not the reality. Think about the ppl working 2 or even 3 job, 90+ hours a week and still on the poor side of society - they are not lazy.
Hetvi Mistry I see your replies on many comments. you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
I understand :) I am trying to do a variety of styles for my videos, so I can definitely include more speedpaints in the background for some of my future videos. I have got plenty of drawing and painting footage I could use :D
You are such an inspiring person for me. I didn't liked to draw with watercolor, because I was always scared of defeating. But your videos gave me a lot of motivation. My first watercolor painting was the '' do's vs don't on how to draw an eye using watercolor''. And it turned out pretty realistic. You are an inspiration to me. And i love you so much..
Everything you said! 🙌🏻 I've been trying to get away from commissions for over a year now. I'm working on my last one and it's incredible painful to complete. My heart just isn't into commissions anymore. It's a very restrictive way to earn art income and leaves little time for my own work. I feel drained after each commission now. I looking forward to my own art again and feeling excitement from my own creations. Commissions stifle creativity, and that's not what art is about for me, personally. Many love it; I don't. I've been feeling like a one person production line. Increasing my prices didn't help either and actually brought in more clients rather than slowing things down. It's just time for me to move on to other things. Great video!
Yes I can relate to those feelings Carole. It is good to reflect, realize you aren't enjoying doing them anymore and change your direction. It doesn't make a person weak or a 'quitter' to stop doing something. It is good to be self-aware and know when it is time to move onto something else and make a change. I wish you lots of luck with your new endeavors!
Hi Carole, firstly your art is amazing. The pastel drawing of the rose - wow! I know exactly how you feel - I drew for over 10 years as a hobby, and loved every minute of it. For the last 4 years I’ve been working as a FT illustrator, and my enjoyment of drawing is at rock bottom. I feel like I hate drawing so much now and just feel creatively drained all the time, but I know the passion is still in me for it...somewhere. It’s like a catch 22 situation, I could give up my role illustrating and just go back to drawing for fun and hopefully find the joy in it again, but on the other hand I couldn’t imagine not having a creative job now that I’ve had one for so long, so feel I need to stick with it because I wouldn’t have a clue what I’d like to do if I wasn’t drawing all day.
I'm working on my last commission (for a month or two, I need a break), too! They take me forever to complete now and it's partially driven my confidence into the dirt. Best of luck with your eventual art freedom Carole!
Colour With Chris thanks! And I hear you. I was at the point I dreaded going into the studio, literally dreaded it. I love painting animals, but hate commissions. I'm already having so much fun again. I hope things turn out well for you!
Sketch art by Salman Hetvi Mistry you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
I think you’ve not been getting good commissioners. Once people love your art they’ll want to get something made by you with a certain aesthetic/theme they like. Not everybody but portraits are commission killers. Usually boring and tedious. But I’d rather get paid half the minimum wage and paint it than deal with karens and crappy managers.
I’m not kidding but even before you told the 3 steps you don’t like doing commissions, I was thinking about the same ones. And that’s why I don’t do commissions either.
Im the weirdo who loves making someone happy with a commission. But i also have my own work and people know this. I can only do my best, and if they dont like it, well.. its all i can do so thats their own problem
This is actually good news to me. I am fine with a commission job here and there but I really do not want to have to rely on commissions. I am wanting to support myself with my artwork though. I will check out your other video.
👏 agree completely. Commissions kill art joy. Made my first commission at 9 yo, loved it, continued for years but as you get older, more responsibilities/life/school make commissions incredibly hard to do properly and still enjoy. I’m a ft artist and do commissions only for begging members of family and close friends. I hate them.
This resonated with me so much! I hate them, too, and usually only back down to do them because I feel so guilty saying no. I try to avoid them by putting them off until the very last moment, at which point the pressure is so high when you’re up against time and wanting to do a good job of it, all while hating every moment of doing it. 😆
Hi Kristy, just found your channel and I applaud you for your guidance. Good points to consider. Looking forward to see more videos. I wish you the best and many blessings for each day. New subscriber!
Kirsty, you seem so young (to me lol), but you are such an inspiration. The advice you give is excellent, & you’ve obviously done some very hard work to get to where you are today. Your art skills are exceptional, & your motivation to succeed financially, is awe inspiring. You’re doing a great job of sharing your knowledge & opinions, on all aspects of your art.
I totally agree with you about commissions but I would love to know how you manage your time now with patreon and all your other revenue streams..I would love you do a video on what your working week looks like for example as I could use some tips! So close to 1 million subscribers! You really are an inspiration 😊😍
I have actually got a video planned out and scripted on 'What I do all day as a full-time artist' where I talk about what tasks I have to do, where I delegate the least and most amount of time to etc, so hopefully you will enjoy that video :D
I turned 15 this year and recently people have been noticing my talent with graphite because of my parents posting it on facebook, and there are many people asking me for commissions now. I decided to start one and omg the pressure is INSANE. After completing this one and maybe a few for family members, I don’t think i’m ever going to do commissions again, I completely agree with all of this video
Yes, I do art as a hobby and personally only draw for my friends (for free) cause I like doing it. If money gets involved then I know I would have to fit it to client’s needs and it would be too much pressure. Also it takes a lot of time which people dont seem to realise.
I remember joining your channel when you were first starting out, and that is mainly how I taught myself how to draw! I've done a bunch of commissions in the two years since then, and I only do them now for close friends that ask me. It is so much pressure and I work full time so I then my free time has to be dedicated to that. I don't feel like I have time to do art for myself when I have commissions to get done.
I agree with your thoughts! It might sound silly, but I draw for ME.. I see a picture that I like (always careful about getting the photographers permission to use it of course), and I do my best with it. That people like it is really nice, but I don't think about whether or not it's going to sell, but rather that it catches my attention, and I feel a surge of "oooh, I'd really like to give this one a go". It gives me peace and true enjoyment seeing a drawing (graphite or colour) come to life. And it's artists like you that inspire me to keep going. Keep up the good work!
I personally love doing commissions for the most part, it pushes me out of my comfort zone and really lets me analyze the ways I can optimize my process. I'm not necessarily a super creative person in and of myself, so seeing other ideas helps me add to my general creative library. I intend to eventually do some passive income things like Etsy and such when I'm older though. It's also a bit easier because I do digital, so no shipping problems. But for 16, commissions are fun, I have the time
I struggle with the thought that may art isn't good enough to sale, I would love to do something other then commissions but i'm just not sure what to do.
I am a really small beginner artist(I am 15 year old) and I have some doubts about commissions: ●do you get paid before the work is done or after you ship it to the client? ●if you get paid in advance and you fail to deliver the product what is gonna happen? ●Is there a need to sign a contract for commisions. ●I want to try commissions as I have never tried it before, but don't want to charge my relatives which means I will have to do 100s of free artwork to keep up with the demand, what do I do? Kitsty please, make a video on the step by step procedures of commissions I am lost😅🙏🙏
1. Get paid first. Every commission where I did not get paid first resulted in $0.00, including my very first, and 2 that I did for a restaurant owner. 2. Failure to deliver just means that you issue a refund. If you are nervous, set the money aside. Don't spend it until the process is complete. 3. Casual commissions (you produce one art for a friend/family/someone just wanting a piece of art for themselves) don't require a contract. If it has a more serious feel or will be on-going for several months+ with lots of steps or if they plan to use it commercially consider writing something up to protect yourself and let the client know your limitations/expected services. Trust your gut if you think you need a contract. 4. Your relatives, let alone anyone on Earth, shouldn't expect you to do 100s of art pieces for free. Don't get taken advantage of. Your labor matters, too. You can start by figuring out your local minimum wage and figuring on average how long it takes you to complete a piece of art, and then finding an amount your comfortable with charging from there. Also charge for any art supplies you might use/need to buy. [[Down the road because I learned this a couple years ago]] 5. When commissions become a significant part of your income, remember to visit an accountant or get Turbotax. Set aside funds for the end of the fiscal year for owed taxes. It may not be a large amount, but it's worth knowing about and handling correctly. I now pay quarterlies so it's not one big hit all at once. There's one or two videos on YT about paying taxes as a working artist. :) It's scary at first but it gets better. I hope this helps!
what you shared to us about commission artworks really hit the point and i understand how it feels especially a client putting much pressure on you. i took about only 15 commissions as a beginner artist but it made to the point that i dont enjoy anymore my art because i felt it wasnt my own art. and im very struggling to those perfectionist clients that would usually look on what ive done that doesnt reach thier expectations.. i lost interest on painting and not touching any of my art materials. until i watch your videos and start picking my pencil again and start from my basic skills which is drawing. thank you so much. your an inspiration.
If you decide to do commissions, it's actually a pleasure doing work for people who genuinely enjoy your style. Especially if they're returning clients who want me to make the project look great and I strongly believe in and enjoy their content. I like using my art to help other launch their stories and characters. More often than not, I've actually had clients take suggestions from me on how to make their concepts even better/more compelling. But I agree this can't overshadow our own projects, there has to be a balance so that my own work doesn't fall by the wayside. I'd probably take a day or two out the week to plug away at orders, and the rest of the days are for my own content.
I’m 15 and I got my first commission I was really excited about it, I got paid well considering how small the thing was I was drawing, but literally after doing 1 commission I don’t want to do it again! I was under so much pressure to make it perfect so I was really stressed out. I also struggle with anxiety so when the client received it I was constantly panicking if she liked it or hated it and if she was lying, although she was really happy with it and gave me great feedback! I just wanted to say your a huge inspiration to me Kirsty I love watching your videos, I learn so much! In the future I’m thinking of starting a RUclips channel and a patreon ❤️
Hey Kirsty, I have been an artist for a looooong time and I have sold a great deal at exhibitions (not online) and I do what I like and enjoy. If the great unwashed don't like what I do that's their problem. You are VERY talented, (as I am) keep up the good work I like your attitude because being an artist is not an easy way to earn a living Cheers.
Kirsty, this really resonates with me. I'm retired at 57. I'm great with DNA / adoption investigation cases but I've never taken a commission for my work. Lots of folks push me in that direction but it's a ton of pressure. So, after 40 yrs, I went back to my art roots in November 2020. I did a stupid artwork of a cardinal, posted it to facebook but I can see others quickly putting pressure on me to make / charge for my work. I don't want any part of pressure anymore. I love your videos and you are so good at what you do! I'm very happy for you and keep spreading the word of your work on You Tube
Wow Im surprised at the comments, I love commissions ! In between my commissions I do creative work to let my mind run free. Tips: give a realistic time frame for your commission to be completed and charge most ,if not all, fees upfront before starting the commission, and expand your business by marketing on multiple platforms so you get a more diverse clientele.
I agree commissions can be a real challenge, for all those reasons! And sometimes I regret taking one on, however I in the end enjoy taking on art commissions, if only because those reasons pose as a challenge to me and I enjoy a challenge, so more often that not I find custom work a welcome challenge and fun. I enjoy conversing with others, figuring out what they like, what they dont. But I dont rely on that, I have it as an option within my business but nothing more! ... great video, look forward to learning more!
Hi Kirsty, I concur from your response here. Commissions must NEVER be MONEY IS THE RESULT otherwise you kill your passion. Commissions for friends once in a while is okay providing they understand your requirements. Stick to what YOU love to draw as it's priority.
I totally agree! They can be a pain in the rear lol. Commissions is how I started my art career. I try to make a schedule do a commission then a piece I want to do and then another commission. I've done them since I was a young teen. I also have a Etsy shop where I sell art prints, bookmarks of my art, mini paintings, phone cases from a POD company and more. The most challenging part of commissions getting a high quality reference photo. I've gotten reference photos that I can't see too well and it's very challenge to do a good job, but how I make it work is by using other photos of the same subject that are higher quality that helps me to see details, works well for pet portraits. I'll even ask the client for other photos that are better quality. Sometimes I feel like I do photo restorations but with paint lol. They do take a long time too so selling art prints and other printed items of my artwork is a good way to make money while working on a commission. That's why I find it's good to have several ways to make money with your art and not rely on one thing. If I get too many commissions and they don't want to wait a long time I'll suggest another artist that does them so I can support other artists that are looking for work.
Kirsty, you are spot on... I was a Corporate consultant for a time (one of several businesses I started)... then I discovered that selling an hourly rate was too limiting, and you can't scale it up!. Between "pitching" a client and doing the actual work, my week would run out - therefore not enough hours left to "sell"!
You have said a mouthful to where I had to subscribe! I am a now single parent of 6 wonderful children with little to no help so it is very hard for me to even focus on finishing commissions! Working a full time job plus being a full time parent (even though I work I am VERY involved with my babies) on top of household duties, on top of being a doctor, counselor, cook, etc....y’all get the point, lol.......that I find it difficult at times to even pick up a paint brush! 😣😔😢 I am Very much overwhelmed to the point I don’t want to follow my passion of art and that is a problem for me. And what’s more of a problem is that folks don’t care about your personal life, that your even human at all and that you may come across some serious hurdles to throw you off your game...they just want what they want and when they want! I’m weary, so no..I don’t want to do Any more commissions! Thanks for taking time to read and many blessings to you!
Thank you so much for this video. I am at a difficult place in my art journey. I don't like taking commissions for all of the reasons you mentioned. But I have never sold an original piece. I also dislike social media and am not a good photographer of my art. I feel so pressured to conform to the new ways of doing art that I loose my own creativity.
Well, I have always liked commissions, but I have only done a few. I have done pet portraits, family portraits and abstract landscapes. I love your videos, they are very helpful and enjoyable. Thank you for making them.
I am so glad you posted this video! I have been doing some commission pet portraits and have been feeling an immense amount of pressure to try to get it perfect for the customers. There have been many times where I have had to restart because I’ve erased a hole in the paper trying to get it up to the customers specifications. I think commission work is great for some people, but I finally decided that it’s just not a great choice for me. I took me a while to realize that choosing to not do my commission work didn’t mean I had given up, it just meant that, personally, it’s not it’s not the right fit. Thanks so much for your videos and making me feel less alone when dealing with this tough decision. 🙂 You’re awesome!
I am told I am pretty good. ( I know better) So anytime I get to believing I'm good enough to "work for money", I just come on RUclips for a while, watch really good art work and then I come back down to earth!!!!
I love doing commissions, because my clients pay for MY style in the way I LIKE to work. I also find commissions validating as an artist. I don't take one on if I don't think it's a fit or if I cannot meet the deadline. I am continually studying and improving my technique, and so have become highly efficient. I create 4 or 5 pieces at once, and pay myself very well. Your videos have brought my colored pencil drawings to the next level -I NEVER would have used colored pencils as a medium for a commission otherwise, can't thank you enough. Fully understand where you are coming from though. I think that what's important here is to love what you do and to be sure to pay yourself well. Fine art is a highly developed SKILL. I had to learn to BELIEVE IN MYSELF! Cheers from New Mexico USA!
I like making art commissions because I enjoy helping people's ideas come to life. It's always super fun to get excited together to see the imagined scene/world/character develop as we continue through the project. Sometimes it does drag though haha
Kristy, I am a big fan of your work and do art and crafts myself... And often people ask to sell them or take commission. But for me art is a way of destressing myself after a Hectic week at IT work and didn't want to be put under the pressure to deliver to expectation and time lines as you mentioned in point 1. Your this post was like hearing myself talk to a mirror(you are the much better, younger reflection.. Me I am a old man at 49 :) ha ha ha) but I totally agree with your thoughts... I have saved your video in my Playlist to share these thoughts with other.. But someday I will put up an exhibition of my work... Now I only post it on Pinterest or my WhatsApp status. But thanks for your wonderful thoughts.. Very insightful... Been subscribed to your channel for some time now and blown away by your artwork... Many don't value the effort it takes to make such detailed work and compare the cost to a free photo download from the internet... Another reason to turn you off when you give them a price and watch their face crumble and they expect it for cheap or free.... You keep Brightening the World with your beautiful Talent.... The world need many more wonderful people like you..... Stay Blessed and always be a Blessing to Others.!!!!
can I just say thank you for being so open about how much you earn and giving an exact figure, it feels attainable now to make a lot of money doing art
This video is so insightful. I can totally understand the pressure of a commission. I’ve only recently picked up my art again since retirement. I was always drawing up until I had my family but let it drop. At the moment I am experimenting with different pencil types and finding I like pastel pencils due to their blend ability. Trying to do a landscape with Polychromos and it’s a bit challenging! I would love to see you do more pastel pencil stuff, especially portraits. I subscribe to your Patreon site and find the tutorials very informative.
On the other side, it could make you try things you've never tried before, and test your skills.A friend asked me to do a combination of different Cadillac logos.I surprised myself and it turned out amazing, he absolutely loved it
I'm glad you made this a video topic because I've felt this way for a while. I graduated from art school two years ago & wasn't sure how I was going to jump-start my art career. I've been taking commissions since graduating & it has been such a press. Finally, I thought to have so much free time to create art for myself was a good thing. But accepting commissions has left me very little time to create art for myself, let alone post another animated RUclips video. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful for the amount of work I've received, but it's such a fine line between needing the money & needing the creative motivation.
I take a different approach to Commission work, I will consider the brief (often a landscape, somewhere close to the customers heart) and treat it like my own painting- by this I mean, I would paint it as if I doing it for myself, I decide the composition, work in my own style and then send the client an image of the finished work telling them they are not obliged to purchase the work if they are not happy with it, this way I will put it up for sale afterwards. Luckily, to date I have not lost a commission sale as yet. Thanks for you video, very helpful!
I think commissions are a really personal thing, some artists make a really good living off of them, others hate them, and I can understand that. Personally I know if I was commissioning an artist, I am paying for their style and skill that I am used to seeing. I understand that not everybody gets that though. If I was to open up commissions it would be with pretty strict guidelines and of course the right to refuse any I didn't feel comfortable with. If you're open to it, I'd be interested to learn more of a breakdown regarding where you make your money. I know you have the "15 ways to make money" video, but it would be interesting to know rough percentages of where that income comes from :)
You have great points, I don't like doing commissions either, I don't like the pressure they put on me. Maybe you could make a video on how to deal with friends and coworkers who want free drawings and try to make you feel bad if you don't make them for them, I'm sure that's something most artists have encountered at some point.
As much as I love drawing people's dogs, I 100% agree about the extra stresses of commissions. I find that it makes me not want to draw, even if I would normally love the drawing, the pressure of making it for commission work just changes how I feel. This year I haven't been taking many commissions and just working on some of my own things, and its been freeing lol.
I.... related to this way too much. I keep trying to push myself into doing commissions, to "get over" that absolutely immense amount of stress and self-criticism I end up having when I try to do commissions, and nothing I've tried has worked.... I've been more or less trying to reconsider things in that regard, seeing what you've got going definitely helps.... but I don't know. I've had an idea floating around in my head based on a type of commission I have found that I absolutely *love* doing, and rather than a general... just "anything goes" commission, I can only describe it as a "co-op design commission". Whether it's designing characters, or ships, or worlds, or you name it! They're _so fun!_ But my thing about this is that... I've only ever done that with one person, a friend I was close to, I enjoyed working with him on his ideas and I'm not sure if it's reasonable to try and do that with just anyone. I suspect that it worked so well because I knew him personally, I knew his limits and his interests, and I felt comfortable teasing him sometimes too haha, which that did come out in some of the designs we worked on together. But I can't help but think.... If I could do commissions like that with people, where both creative minds come together to design something while I do the actual drawing work, I think I'd be so, so happy to do that. Mmm..... I realize at the end of the day this is a personal decision based on how _I_ am, but as someone who's actually been able to do art professionally and worth with clients.... what are your impressions of this idea? I assume it would probably depend, more than anything else, on how comfortable I am talking to basically strangers, unless I did really limit it to certain people.
I totally agree with you on art commissions! UGH! There’s always that customer that is never satisfied. And they can suck your income down to nothing by the time you are done. I ave never been there before but on my last one I said that’s it! Enough. The other issue I have is being at a party and someone will say, She’s an amazing artist, and then the conversation starts with can you paint this? Can you paint that? Would you paint one for me? And they expect it for nothing. Or you paint something and someone you know sees it on social media and expect you to give it to them for nothing because hey, we are family, or good friends. If they knew how many times I have done that, and then someone else finds out and then they expect it. It is an awkward situation. In fact I have a friend waiting for a year on an oil painting. Not a small oil painting but a 4 ft painting and said, I will pay for the canvas! Well it sits on the back burner because it isn’t my primary medium and I thought they were going to pay me for my work. Now I have a 4 foot canvas for a still life “commission” and I don’t know how to go about telling them. My husband always says, just paint it for them! Or he will offer my services and they expect things for free. It is always after he has had a couple drinks. It drives me nuts.
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Thank you kirsty for the thoughts and I'm looking forward to your other thoughts and experiences
The first point is the only reason I stopped doing commissions, totally agree with you, making art for commissions is way less fun. Also, the same kind of pressure I felt when I made videos of my art progress, but I want to continue making videos, please help how to focus on the art more and be more productive when making art progress videos.
Thank You So Much for this!,.. it’s honestly taken away the guilt for me privately thinking I really don’t want to do commissions anymore, it doesn’t leave time for the paintings I really want to do from the heart. Don’t misunderstand, I give my all to my paintings, I’d just like to do some now for me🙏🏻🥰
you don’t need expensive materials to make art. they may be more good quality but you can still create great great pieces with a pack of like £5.00 pencils. i recommend going to watch Kirsty’s video where she draws with cheap pencils :) ruclips.net/video/iAqVvgOw3qs/видео.html
Start small ! You will grow and make some money to upgrade your art supplies. Good quality art supplies don’t make an artist more skilled, it only makes their drawings in a better quality
Im from Bangladesh and Faber castle polychromes are really expensive here because of the currency difference. But I believe where she lives these color pencils are affordable. A bit expensive but not too over the board.
I feel the same, I often turn most requests down simply because of the time crunch. I just never have the time these days to work around the clock to impress someone with a big project. I’m going into my sophomore year next year while keeping up with my driving education and cross country. Love your channel it’s helped me improve as an artist and I can’t thank you enough
I so agree. I did a painting for a cousin and was totally stressed that she would like it. I prefer doing things that bring me joy and if someone likes it, they can buy it.
Could you please talk about doable alternatives to earn money as an artist and that don't involve art commissions? I know that many people start to sell merch but no everyone has the money to invest in doing stickers, pins, prints etc. to start with merch directly. If you already have a video about this topic could you just share the link? Thank you for talking about this topic. I do art commissions but I'm also looking for other methods that don't contribute to my stress levels.
There are websites where you only have to create the artwork and they take care of everything else. However, they do take commissions from each sell you make.
Yes!! Pressure. Its one of the reasons why i don't do art commisions. And it sucks coz i always think that they might not like my work and some people are expecting more of my works.
What are your thoughts on art commissions?
I agree with you wholeheartedly 👍
Kirsty Partridge Art - Always said no to them when I was actively working in jewelry. Knew instinctively I would not enjoy it and did not want the constraints of having to work to someone else’s specifications! Love you work Kirsty! So nice to see you are all so successful!!
I agree with you on the pressure. I have painted a few for family members but feeling pressured to do my best made it hard to enjoy the painting process.
I always Agrees with you, you’re so smart and kind
I think it's a bad idea myself as having tried to open commissions and it not working. Most people want free art. So I gave up. I do requests for friends. I'm going to be quitting here soon though. I just want to art for myself anymore. I used to sell commissions in high school and people paid like 200 for some things but my work it sucked compared to now. So confused. Lol so when your work gets decidedly better no one wants to buy... XD
True... Commissions make you feel as if your creativity is being controlled.. I have to enjoy my art process..
same. i really hate feeling under pressure. nothing makes me more uncomfortable
I also tend to put it off because it feels like work and I’m scared it won’t be good enough
Sophie - Mae :D do you do art?
@@soap4780 I agree.. Once it becomes a chore it is not enjoyable
@@EmDoesArt True :)
I am not a big fan of commissions either, I feel like the effort and time it takes for it isn't worth the amount you get from it
Do have a look on my channel too u may like it❤️💫🙈💫😁 I m a self taught artist. I do portrait sketching. Specializing in graphite.💫
Hetvi Mistry Hetvi Mistry I see your replies on many comments. you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
I'm the same way, the pay never seems to be worth the effort needed for commissions
Yes that's true
I subscribed to your channel!
Commission art in the Philippines is almost useless. Because clients demand for cheap price or even for free artworks despite of the art quality.
Do have a look on my channel too u may like it❤️💫🙈💫😁 I m a self taught artist. I do portrait sketching. Specializing in graphite.💫
They dont understand the real value of art
Hetvi Mistry Hetvi Mistry I see your replies on many comments. you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
@@Hmarts01 subbed ~ good luck.
Don't worry friend, simply tell that clients to make their work with their own effort, then they will understand the amount, as I think
I’m a bit older and have only been drawing for a year. I’m 56. I’ve had a few people ask me to draw for them. I’m only drawing for fun. I did do one charcoal picture for my daughter in law to give to her sister. I did it for free and still felt the pressure of doing a really good job. I don’t see myself doing commissions.
Great sir....keep doing what you love
JASS arts haha i think she’s a woman
I totally feel that haha. I'm younger but since I've been getting into art, my extended family members are always asking for art and they mean for free it's like what do you think I am...
Deborah Beck I’m exactly the same . I’ve done a few ‘free’ for family & friends, but the photos were dreadful, so I was stressed to death!
Not doing any more.....it’s not my Idea of fun
Hi I recommend you do not give your art away as it means it is worthless. No matter who you draw or paint for relative or friend charge so ethi g if only to cover your materials.
I love doing certain commissions! Only a few months ago I did a commission for a man who just said 'take a look at my living room, the colors in my living room, the empty wall where your painting is going to be and make whatever you think is best!'
It was one of the most fun Ive ever had with making a painting!
That’s the best sort of client!!
@@watercolourartincapetown2919 defenitly!
That does sound like a lot of fun. That sounds like a commission that can really allow you to get your creative juices flowing :D
@@KirstyPartridgeArt It sure was, and it sure did! Love your videos by the way!
That is so cool to have someone trust you make something that will fit into the environment for which it is designed. Paintings are fine art, but they are essentially meant to decorate living spaces.
I don't mind commissions. I've made a decent amount of money doing them, but it was so sporadic that I couldn't keep it up. I also found that the more I improved, the more it seemed like I was selling myself short for what I charged. A lot of people don't realize how much work goes into drawing, and don't want to pay lots of money. I'd get requests to do comic pages, and people would want to pay $200 for me to draw a 22-page book. Sometimes they wouldn't want to pay at all. So I just stopped taking commissions.
$200? That's like what the letterer would get paid. If they don't want to pay you what you're worth, they need to learn to draw, themselves.
That breaks down to $9 per page. It could possibly be less depending on how long it takes to draw.
Bro did you say 200 dollars for 22 pages😳..wow...
I would much rather sell completed art. People like something created special just for them but it really puts TONS of pressure on you to deliver what they have in their own mind. I always hate the idea of disappointing them. So a finished work is so much easier. Thanks for the video ❤️😍👍
I can relate.. I'm afraid to disappoint people with my art...
As a commercial artist right out of college, I found the business low-paying and stressful, due to rare clients, limited skill and equipment and the deadlines, perfectionist clients and difficult contract negotiations.
This is exactly why I want to set up my art business to be sustainable *without* having to do commissions.
They're incredibly time-consuming and can be stressful if you're a perfectionist.
To be honest, I still feel like I'm doing something wrong because it's tremendously difficult for me to get commissions in the first place, like months just to get one commission request. I keep trying because a part of me feels like I need to gather enough experience with commissions to kind of...validate myself going a different path (selling my art on products and RUclips) and to prove I can make an income. I'm still struggling to make money off my art but this video made me more confident in trying to pursue more passive venues. Thanks a lot Kirsty and keep making your lovely videos!❤
I struggle with making money of my art too and i dont know what to do 😔
I recommend checking out Sema Martin on Instagram. She is a great artist that runs a commission based art business and gives lots of tips on how to go about getting commissions. Also, if you haven't seen it already I have got a video on 15 ways to make money as an artist that you could find useful :D Keep at it, it does take time to find clients and build up a reputation. But, keep educating yourself and persevering and it is possible.
@@KirstyPartridgeArt Sema Martin's page looks beautiful, thanks for the rec. And yep, I've seen that video and keeping it in mind ;)
I agree with Kirsty it takes time to grow your art career and getting more commissions. I started doing commissions for friends and family. Then they showed it to their friends and family and that's how I got a lot of work just by word of mouth. I also take photos of the commissions I complete and share them on social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.) that way they can share your photos with others. Sometimes I'll ask permission if it's a portrait of a loved one to share on social media. Not sure if that'll help anyone, but it's what helped me and I've been getting a lot of commissions that way.
Nobody goes up to a musician and says "I want you to write a song for my wife. She likes sunsets, the little farm where she grew up, horses, and streams. She also wants it to be a reggae song. And oh, how much would you charge for it?"
The equivalent is someone in the crowd yelling out 'can ya play some bob marley' inbetween original songs
ive been a professional guitarist for 28 years. You wouldn't believe the crap that goes with it...never mind the constant practice..The most common things to be asked are..'do you sing?', 'do you only play guitar?', 'can you play (insert crap 3 chord pop song here)?'.
I wish you could be an art teacher my school. Honestly some teachers in my school haven't seen art since the renaissance and you would bring so much of a modern approach to things (unfortunately I do not do art at school I prefer it as a hobby) but watching your videos makes it seem like art is defiantly a achievable career (you've clearly proved that!) Thank you! xx
The art school curriculum can be very outdated, but at least there are lots of artists on RUclips making great educational and entertaining content around art. No longer do you need to rely on your actual art teacher to teach you how to draw :D
Kirsty Partridge Art
No I get to have you to teach instead! 😂 which is very lucky indeed! Thank you for everything you’ve done and your videos whether they educate me or entertain me! I hope I get to say thank you in person one day xx
@@KirstyPartridgeArt I actually show my students your videos from time to time depending on what medium we're working in just so that they get a different perspective
I don’t do them anymore unless it’s a small change to something I’ve made before. I hate the back and forth part, it drives me crazy! The pressure makes me anxious too. But the communication takes so much extra time that the original cost never makes up for it.
Such smart words, I truly understand your reasons!
I notice you are making $20,000 per month on Patreon alone, so I'm not surprised that you don't waste time on commissions!
Wooow, I wouldn't do commissions either 🤣
Yes, I am very grateful for my supporters on Patreon :D Patreon is a great way for artists to make consistent monthly income, without having to worry about all of the technical sides of taking payments and dealing with VAT!
Whoah, that's what I make in a year!
@@PaulaBean me: that's what I make in *2 years* (cries in poor)
@MR PEEVES this is such a mean answer. You seem to be very priveleged or very ignorant or both. I have been there for many many years. Earned just enough to survive, not enough to live. I am now on a much higher income - but I am not working harder, actually working is much more relaxed than it used to be. U can't say ppl are poor because they are lazy, that is just not the reality. Think about the ppl working 2 or even 3 job, 90+ hours a week and still on the poor side of society - they are not lazy.
Kirsty I like your vids but I miss when you would do a speedpaint on the background of your videos.
Do have a look on my channel too u may like it❤️💫🙈💫😁 I m a self taught artist. I do portrait sketching. Specializing in graphite.💫
Hetvi Mistry I see your replies on many comments. you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
EmDoesArt i agree :)
@@EmDoesArt I am fully agree with you 😊
I understand :) I am trying to do a variety of styles for my videos, so I can definitely include more speedpaints in the background for some of my future videos. I have got plenty of drawing and painting footage I could use :D
You are such an inspiring person for me. I didn't liked to draw with watercolor, because I was always scared of defeating. But your videos gave me a lot of motivation. My first watercolor painting was the '' do's vs don't on how to draw an eye using watercolor''. And it turned out pretty realistic. You are an inspiration to me. And i love you so much..
I love how open and honest you are about everything! These videos really help - thank you so much
Everything you said! 🙌🏻 I've been trying to get away from commissions for over a year now. I'm working on my last one and it's incredible painful to complete. My heart just isn't into commissions anymore. It's a very restrictive way to earn art income and leaves little time for my own work. I feel drained after each commission now. I looking forward to my own art again and feeling excitement from my own creations. Commissions stifle creativity, and that's not what art is about for me, personally. Many love it; I don't. I've been feeling like a one person production line. Increasing my prices didn't help either and actually brought in more clients rather than slowing things down. It's just time for me to move on to other things. Great video!
Yes I can relate to those feelings Carole. It is good to reflect, realize you aren't enjoying doing them anymore and change your direction. It doesn't make a person weak or a 'quitter' to stop doing something. It is good to be self-aware and know when it is time to move onto something else and make a change. I wish you lots of luck with your new endeavors!
Hi Carole, firstly your art is amazing. The pastel drawing of the rose - wow! I know exactly how you feel - I drew for over 10 years as a hobby, and loved every minute of it. For the last 4 years I’ve been working as a FT illustrator, and my enjoyment of drawing is at rock bottom. I feel like I hate drawing so much now and just feel creatively drained all the time, but I know the passion is still in me for it...somewhere. It’s like a catch 22 situation, I could give up my role illustrating and just go back to drawing for fun and hopefully find the joy in it again, but on the other hand I couldn’t imagine not having a creative job now that I’ve had one for so long, so feel I need to stick with it because I wouldn’t have a clue what I’d like to do if I wasn’t drawing all day.
@@colorwithchris1835 Joseph Zubokvic (I think that's his name) started off painting cars for work. He's now an amazing master artist! Possibilities...
I'm working on my last commission (for a month or two, I need a break), too! They take me forever to complete now and it's partially driven my confidence into the dirt. Best of luck with your eventual art freedom Carole!
Colour With Chris thanks! And I hear you. I was at the point I dreaded going into the studio, literally dreaded it. I love painting animals, but hate commissions. I'm already having so much fun again. I hope things turn out well for you!
i agree with your thoughts
artist has a free soul and free to express imagination
commission work snatch their freedom ........
Do have a look on my channel also! I've recently started it and I am a self taught artist!😊
Sketch art by Salman Hetvi Mistry you most likely won’t get much traffic for promoting yourself and people will find it annoying. It can come off as rude by using someone else’s video just to promote yourself.
I think you’ve not been getting good commissioners. Once people love your art they’ll want to get something made by you with a certain aesthetic/theme they like. Not everybody but portraits are commission killers. Usually boring and tedious. But I’d rather get paid half the minimum wage and paint it than deal with karens and crappy managers.
It's an artist decision and to be respected😊
I’m not kidding but even before you told the 3 steps you don’t like doing commissions, I was thinking about the same ones. And that’s why I don’t do commissions either.
Kirsty's videos doesn't just provide tips and tricks on artwork but also on how to build life with our artwork. That's what I like with Kirsty!
i dont do commissions either, but because no one wants me to do them lol
Thank you for getting me 😅
Okay.. u are not alone ;)
maybe you never found your audience? There is always someone out there who is willing to buy someone's artwork.
Im the weirdo who loves making someone happy with a commission. But i also have my own work and people know this. I can only do my best, and if they dont like it, well.. its all i can do so thats their own problem
This is actually good news to me. I am fine with a commission job here and there but I really do not want to have to rely on commissions. I am wanting to support myself with my artwork though. I will check out your other video.
👏 agree completely. Commissions kill art joy. Made my first commission at 9 yo, loved it, continued for years but as you get older, more responsibilities/life/school make commissions incredibly hard to do properly and still enjoy. I’m a ft artist and do commissions only for begging members of family and close friends. I hate them.
This resonated with me so much! I hate them, too, and usually only back down to do them because I feel so guilty saying no. I try to avoid them by putting them off until the very last moment, at which point the pressure is so high when you’re up against time and wanting to do a good job of it, all while hating every moment of doing it. 😆
I feel your pain. It's worse when your family expects you do drawings for their friends. Like I don't even know them. It's annoying.
@@colorwithchris1835 I do the same thing. It must be an artist thing, procrastination.
I hate commissions too! I leave all the work til the last minute and then rage draw ...with tears. Never charge enough.
Videos so good i had to unsubscribe, just to subscribe again and feel like im supporting her
Ahahaha 😂😂
Hi Kristy, just found your channel and I applaud you for your guidance. Good points to consider. Looking forward to see more videos. I wish you the best and many blessings for each day. New subscriber!
Kirsty, you seem so young (to me lol), but you are such an inspiration. The advice you give is excellent, & you’ve obviously done some very hard work to get to where you are today. Your art skills are exceptional, & your motivation to succeed financially, is awe inspiring. You’re doing a great job of sharing your knowledge & opinions, on all aspects of your art.
Thank you so much for the lovely, kind comments 🥰💕
You are the best art teacher that anyone could ever have!!.....
I’m a beginner, & I follow every video of yours, you like an angel in teaching the art works. please never stop teaching. God Bless.
I totally agree with you about commissions but I would love to know how you manage your time now with patreon and all your other revenue streams..I would love you do a video on what your working week looks like for example as I could use some tips! So close to 1 million subscribers! You really are an inspiration 😊😍
I have actually got a video planned out and scripted on 'What I do all day as a full-time artist' where I talk about what tasks I have to do, where I delegate the least and most amount of time to etc, so hopefully you will enjoy that video :D
Kirsty Partridge Art - that’s great- thank you! 😊
I turned 15 this year and recently people have been noticing my talent with graphite because of my parents posting it on facebook, and there are many people asking me for commissions now. I decided to start one and omg the pressure is INSANE.
After completing this one and maybe a few for family members, I don’t think i’m ever going to do commissions again, I completely agree with all of this video
Yes, I do art as a hobby and personally only draw for my friends (for free) cause I like doing it. If money gets involved then I know I would have to fit it to client’s needs and it would be too much pressure. Also it takes a lot of time which people dont seem to realise.
you said it RIGHT
I can’t enjoy commissions, I tried but have found I can only paint what I want to paint, as all my paintings come from thought.
I remember joining your channel when you were first starting out, and that is mainly how I taught myself how to draw! I've done a bunch of commissions in the two years since then, and I only do them now for close friends that ask me. It is so much pressure and I work full time so I then my free time has to be dedicated to that. I don't feel like I have time to do art for myself when I have commissions to get done.
I always get anxiety that the person won’t like the art so I don’t do commissions except for some friends and family
friends and fam are the worst
Anxiety 😓😓
I agree with your thoughts! It might sound silly, but I draw for ME.. I see a picture that I like (always careful about getting the photographers permission to use it of course), and I do my best with it. That people like it is really nice, but I don't think about whether or not it's going to sell, but rather that it catches my attention, and I feel a surge of "oooh, I'd really like to give this one a go". It gives me peace and true enjoyment seeing a drawing (graphite or colour) come to life. And it's artists like you that inspire me to keep going. Keep up the good work!
I personally love doing commissions for the most part, it pushes me out of my comfort zone and really lets me analyze the ways I can optimize my process. I'm not necessarily a super creative person in and of myself, so seeing other ideas helps me add to my general creative library. I intend to eventually do some passive income things like Etsy and such when I'm older though. It's also a bit easier because I do digital, so no shipping problems. But for 16, commissions are fun, I have the time
Same samee, I find commissions fun but that's maybe because I'm still a student, so not much pressure and have more free time.
I struggle with the thought that may art isn't good enough to sale, I would love to do something other then commissions but i'm just not sure what to do.
I am a really small beginner artist(I am 15 year old) and I have some doubts about commissions:
●do you get paid before the work is done or after you ship it to the client?
●if you get paid in advance and you fail to deliver the product what is gonna happen?
●Is there a need to sign a contract for commisions.
●I want to try commissions as I have never tried it before, but don't want to charge my relatives which means I will have to do 100s of free artwork to keep up with the demand, what do I do?
Kitsty please, make a video on the step by step procedures of commissions I am lost😅🙏🙏
1. Get paid first. Every commission where I did not get paid first resulted in $0.00, including my very first, and 2 that I did for a restaurant owner.
2. Failure to deliver just means that you issue a refund. If you are nervous, set the money aside. Don't spend it until the process is complete.
3. Casual commissions (you produce one art for a friend/family/someone just wanting a piece of art for themselves) don't require a contract. If it has a more serious feel or will be on-going for several months+ with lots of steps or if they plan to use it commercially consider writing something up to protect yourself and let the client know your limitations/expected services. Trust your gut if you think you need a contract.
4. Your relatives, let alone anyone on Earth, shouldn't expect you to do 100s of art pieces for free. Don't get taken advantage of. Your labor matters, too. You can start by figuring out your local minimum wage and figuring on average how long it takes you to complete a piece of art, and then finding an amount your comfortable with charging from there. Also charge for any art supplies you might use/need to buy.
[[Down the road because I learned this a couple years ago]] 5. When commissions become a significant part of your income, remember to visit an accountant or get Turbotax. Set aside funds for the end of the fiscal year for owed taxes. It may not be a large amount, but it's worth knowing about and handling correctly. I now pay quarterlies so it's not one big hit all at once. There's one or two videos on YT about paying taxes as a working artist. :) It's scary at first but it gets better. I hope this helps!
what you shared to us about commission artworks really hit the point and i understand how it feels especially a client putting much pressure on you. i took about only 15 commissions as a beginner artist but it made to the point that i dont enjoy anymore my art because i felt it wasnt my own art. and im very struggling to those perfectionist clients that would usually look on what ive done that doesnt reach thier expectations.. i lost interest on painting and not touching any of my art materials. until i watch your videos and start picking my pencil again and start from my basic skills which is drawing. thank you so much. your an inspiration.
I'm inspired with your work Kirsty . Thank you!! :)
If you decide to do commissions, it's actually a pleasure doing work for people who genuinely enjoy your style. Especially if they're returning clients who want me to make the project look great and I strongly believe in and enjoy their content. I like using my art to help other launch their stories and characters.
More often than not, I've actually had clients take suggestions from me on how to make their concepts even better/more compelling.
But I agree this can't overshadow our own projects, there has to be a balance so that my own work doesn't fall by the wayside. I'd probably take a day or two out the week to plug away at orders, and the rest of the days are for my own content.
Bang on...! Such great points Kirsty !!!
I agree with you... especially for people who don't appreciate art
I’m 15 and I got my first commission I was really excited about it, I got paid well considering how small the thing was I was drawing, but literally after doing 1 commission I don’t want to do it again! I was under so much pressure to make it perfect so I was really stressed out. I also struggle with anxiety so when the client received it I was constantly panicking if she liked it or hated it and if she was lying, although she was really happy with it and gave me great feedback! I just wanted to say your a huge inspiration to me Kirsty I love watching your videos, I learn so much! In the future I’m thinking of starting a RUclips channel and a patreon ❤️
Hey Kirsty, I have been an artist for a looooong time and I have sold a great deal at exhibitions (not online) and I do what I like and enjoy. If the great unwashed don't like what I do that's their problem.
You are VERY talented, (as I am) keep up the good work I like your attitude because being an artist is not an easy way to earn a living Cheers.
Kirsty, this really resonates with me. I'm retired at 57. I'm great with DNA / adoption investigation cases but I've never taken a commission for my work. Lots of folks push me in that direction but it's a ton of pressure. So, after 40 yrs, I went back to my art roots in November 2020. I did a stupid artwork of a cardinal, posted it to facebook but I can see others quickly putting pressure on me to make / charge for my work. I don't want any part of pressure anymore. I love your videos and you are so good at what you do! I'm very happy for you and keep spreading the word of your work on You Tube
Wow Im surprised at the comments, I love commissions ! In between my commissions I do creative work to let my mind run free. Tips: give a realistic time frame for your commission to be completed and charge most ,if not all, fees upfront before starting the commission, and expand your business by marketing on multiple platforms so you get a more diverse clientele.
You so deserve the money from RUclips, you are brilliant and so sweet. Thank you🙏🏼🤗💖
I agree commissions can be a real challenge, for all those reasons! And sometimes I regret taking one on, however I in the end enjoy taking on art commissions, if only because those reasons pose as a challenge to me and I enjoy a challenge, so more often that not I find custom work a welcome challenge and fun. I enjoy conversing with others, figuring out what they like, what they dont. But I dont rely on that, I have it as an option within my business but nothing more! ... great video, look forward to learning more!
Hi Kirsty, I concur from your response here.
Commissions must NEVER be MONEY IS THE RESULT otherwise you kill your passion.
Commissions for friends once in a while is okay providing they understand your requirements.
Stick to what YOU love to draw as it's priority.
Passionately agree!
You said it all. Your young and got it going on.
I totally agree with you , it doesn't feel like we are doing great.
You hit the nail on the head in regards to how labor/time intensive private commissions can be. I steer clear of them as much as possible as well.
I totally agree! They can be a pain in the rear lol. Commissions is how I started my art career. I try to make a schedule do a commission then a piece I want to do and then another commission. I've done them since I was a young teen. I also have a Etsy shop where I sell art prints, bookmarks of my art, mini paintings, phone cases from a POD company and more. The most challenging part of commissions getting a high quality reference photo. I've gotten reference photos that I can't see too well and it's very challenge to do a good job, but how I make it work is by using other photos of the same subject that are higher quality that helps me to see details, works well for pet portraits. I'll even ask the client for other photos that are better quality. Sometimes I feel like I do photo restorations but with paint lol. They do take a long time too so selling art prints and other printed items of my artwork is a good way to make money while working on a commission. That's why I find it's good to have several ways to make money with your art and not rely on one thing. If I get too many commissions and they don't want to wait a long time I'll suggest another artist that does them so I can support other artists that are looking for work.
Your videos really helped me when i was just starting in art. thank you so much 💖
That is awesome to hear :D
i’ve learned more about art from youtubers, like Jazza, Kirsty and others more than i have learned in school!
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Kirsty, you are spot on... I was a Corporate consultant for a time (one of several businesses I started)... then I discovered that selling an hourly rate was too limiting, and you can't scale it up!. Between "pitching" a client and doing the actual work, my week would run out - therefore not enough hours left to "sell"!
Liked the video before watching it! Cause it’s Kirsty
You have said a mouthful to where I had to subscribe! I am a now single parent of 6 wonderful children with little to no help so it is very hard for me to even focus on finishing commissions! Working a full time job plus being a full time parent (even though I work I am VERY involved with my babies) on top of household duties, on top of being a doctor, counselor, cook, etc....y’all get the point, lol.......that I find it difficult at times to even pick up a paint brush! 😣😔😢 I am Very much overwhelmed to the point I don’t want to follow my passion of art and that is a problem for me. And what’s more of a problem is that folks don’t care about your personal life, that your even human at all and that you may come across some serious hurdles to throw you off your game...they just want what they want and when they want! I’m weary, so no..I don’t want to do Any more commissions! Thanks for taking time to read and many blessings to you!
Thank you so much for this video. I am at a difficult place in my art journey. I don't like taking commissions for all of the reasons you mentioned. But I have never sold an original piece. I also dislike social media and am not a good photographer of my art. I feel so pressured to conform to the new ways of doing art that I loose my own creativity.
Well, I have always liked commissions, but I have only done a few. I have done pet portraits, family portraits and abstract landscapes. I love your videos, they are very helpful and enjoyable. Thank you for making them.
I am so glad you posted this video! I have been doing some commission pet portraits and have been feeling an immense amount of pressure to try to get it perfect for the customers. There have been many times where I have had to restart because I’ve erased a hole in the paper trying to get it up to the customers specifications. I think commission work is great for some people, but I finally decided that it’s just not a great choice for me. I took me a while to realize that choosing to not do my commission work didn’t mean I had given up, it just meant that, personally, it’s not it’s not the right fit. Thanks so much for your videos and making me feel less alone when dealing with this tough decision. 🙂 You’re awesome!
I am told I am pretty good. ( I know better) So anytime I get to believing I'm good enough to "work for money", I just come on RUclips for a while, watch really good art work and then I come back down to earth!!!!
I love doing commissions, because my clients pay for MY style in the way I LIKE to work. I also find commissions validating as an artist. I don't take one on if I don't think it's a fit or if I cannot meet the deadline. I am continually studying and improving my technique, and so have become highly efficient. I create 4 or 5 pieces at once, and pay myself very well. Your videos have brought my colored pencil drawings to the next level -I NEVER would have used colored pencils as a medium for a commission otherwise, can't thank you enough. Fully understand where you are coming from though. I think that what's important here is to love what you do and to be sure to pay yourself well. Fine art is a highly developed SKILL. I had to learn to BELIEVE IN MYSELF! Cheers from New Mexico USA!
I like making art commissions because I enjoy helping people's ideas come to life. It's always super fun to get excited together to see the imagined scene/world/character develop as we continue through the project. Sometimes it does drag though haha
A very, very good video and I totally agree❤️❤️❤️Thank you!!
When you said at the beginning your work was basically rubbish. Makes me feel discouraged. I couldn't do that. 😕
Look at that and look at her art now. Phenomenal difference. Practice And you will get better
Your almost at 1 mil!! ❤
Kristy, I am a big fan of your work and do art and crafts myself... And often people ask to sell them or take commission. But for me art is a way of destressing myself after a Hectic week at IT work and didn't want to be put under the pressure to deliver to expectation and time lines as you mentioned in point 1. Your this post was like hearing myself talk to a mirror(you are the much better, younger reflection.. Me I am a old man at 49 :) ha ha ha) but I totally agree with your thoughts... I have saved your video in my Playlist to share these thoughts with other.. But someday I will put up an exhibition of my work... Now I only post it on Pinterest or my WhatsApp status. But thanks for your wonderful thoughts.. Very insightful... Been subscribed to your channel for some time now and blown away by your artwork... Many don't value the effort it takes to make such detailed work and compare the cost to a free photo download from the internet... Another reason to turn you off when you give them a price and watch their face crumble and they expect it for cheap or free.... You keep Brightening the World with your beautiful Talent.... The world need many more wonderful people like you..... Stay Blessed and always be a Blessing to Others.!!!!
can I just say thank you for being so open about how much you earn and giving an exact figure, it feels attainable now to make a lot of money doing art
Hi kirsty you helped me sooooooooooooooo much
Do have a look on my channel too u may like it❤️💫🙈💫😁 I m a self taught artist. I do portrait sketching. Specializing in graphite.💫
Hetvi Mistry hey try not to self promote on other’s videos. its very annoying and kinda disrespectful to do on other creator’s videos
Your videos really helped me with watercolor. So much better that other tutorials I watched
Wowww pretty and talented... Gurlll glad I discovered ur channel, I hit the jackpot!
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This video is so insightful. I can totally understand the pressure of a commission. I’ve only recently picked up my art again since retirement. I was always drawing up until I had my family but let it drop. At the moment I am experimenting with different pencil types and finding I like pastel pencils due to their blend ability. Trying to do a landscape with Polychromos and it’s a bit challenging! I would love to see you do more pastel pencil stuff, especially portraits. I subscribe to your Patreon site and find the tutorials very informative.
On the other side, it could make you try things you've never tried before, and test your skills.A friend asked me to do a combination of different Cadillac logos.I surprised myself and it turned out amazing, he absolutely loved it
I'm glad you made this a video topic because I've felt this way for a while. I graduated from art school two years ago & wasn't sure how I was going to jump-start my art career. I've been taking commissions since graduating & it has been such a press. Finally, I thought to have so much free time to create art for myself was a good thing. But accepting commissions has left me very little time to create art for myself, let alone post another animated RUclips video. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful for the amount of work I've received, but it's such a fine line between needing the money & needing the creative motivation.
I'm a fan since then. Really happy that we're on our way to 1M subs😍
I take a different approach to Commission work, I will consider the brief (often a landscape, somewhere close to the customers heart) and treat it like my own painting- by this I mean, I would paint it as if I doing it for myself, I decide the composition, work in my own style and then send the client an image of the finished work telling them they are not obliged to purchase the work if they are not happy with it, this way I will put it up for sale afterwards. Luckily, to date I have not lost a commission sale as yet.
Thanks for you video, very helpful!
I think commissions are a really personal thing, some artists make a really good living off of them, others hate them, and I can understand that. Personally I know if I was commissioning an artist, I am paying for their style and skill that I am used to seeing. I understand that not everybody gets that though. If I was to open up commissions it would be with pretty strict guidelines and of course the right to refuse any I didn't feel comfortable with. If you're open to it, I'd be interested to learn more of a breakdown regarding where you make your money. I know you have the "15 ways to make money" video, but it would be interesting to know rough percentages of where that income comes from :)
You have great points, I don't like doing commissions either, I don't like the pressure they put on me. Maybe you could make a video on how to deal with friends and coworkers who want free drawings and try to make you feel bad if you don't make them for them, I'm sure that's something most artists have encountered at some point.
Great video!!💕Thank you for sharing! 👍
Me : After years of being asked, considers doing commissions.
RUclips : "...... but look at all these "this is why I dont do commissions videos" >.
As much as I love drawing people's dogs, I 100% agree about the extra stresses of commissions. I find that it makes me not want to draw, even if I would normally love the drawing, the pressure of making it for commission work just changes how I feel. This year I haven't been taking many commissions and just working on some of my own things, and its been freeing lol.
I.... related to this way too much. I keep trying to push myself into doing commissions, to "get over" that absolutely immense amount of stress and self-criticism I end up having when I try to do commissions, and nothing I've tried has worked.... I've been more or less trying to reconsider things in that regard, seeing what you've got going definitely helps.... but I don't know.
I've had an idea floating around in my head based on a type of commission I have found that I absolutely *love* doing, and rather than a general... just "anything goes" commission, I can only describe it as a "co-op design commission". Whether it's designing characters, or ships, or worlds, or you name it! They're _so fun!_ But my thing about this is that... I've only ever done that with one person, a friend I was close to, I enjoyed working with him on his ideas and I'm not sure if it's reasonable to try and do that with just anyone. I suspect that it worked so well because I knew him personally, I knew his limits and his interests, and I felt comfortable teasing him sometimes too haha, which that did come out in some of the designs we worked on together.
But I can't help but think.... If I could do commissions like that with people, where both creative minds come together to design something while I do the actual drawing work, I think I'd be so, so happy to do that. Mmm..... I realize at the end of the day this is a personal decision based on how _I_ am, but as someone who's actually been able to do art professionally and worth with clients.... what are your impressions of this idea? I assume it would probably depend, more than anything else, on how comfortable I am talking to basically strangers, unless I did really limit it to certain people.
I love your art! Especially the animals, you are very talented and I can see how much your art has improved over the years🙂
30K a month!! I'm in awe!! 👌
I totally agree with you on art commissions! UGH! There’s always that customer that is never satisfied. And they can suck your income down to nothing by the time you are done. I ave never been there before but on my last one I said that’s it! Enough. The other issue I have is being at a party and someone will say, She’s an amazing artist, and then the conversation starts with can you paint this? Can you paint that? Would you paint one for me? And they expect it for nothing. Or you paint something and someone you know sees it on social media and expect you to give it to them for nothing because hey, we are family, or good friends. If they knew how many times I have done that, and then someone else finds out and then they expect it. It is an awkward situation. In fact I have a friend waiting for a year on an oil painting. Not a small oil painting but a 4 ft painting and said, I will pay for the canvas! Well it sits on the back burner because it isn’t my primary medium and I thought they were going to pay me for my work. Now I have a 4 foot canvas for a still life “commission” and I don’t know how to go about telling them. My husband always says, just paint it for them! Or he will offer my services and they expect things for free. It is always after he has had a couple drinks. It drives me nuts.
Thank you kirsty for the thoughts and I'm looking forward to your other thoughts and experiences
The first point is the only reason I stopped doing commissions, totally agree with you, making art for commissions is way less fun. Also, the same kind of pressure I felt when I made videos of my art progress, but I want to continue making videos, please help how to focus on the art more and be more productive when making art progress videos.
This is a very thought provoking discussion. Definitely Something to consider!
Thank You So Much for this!,.. it’s honestly taken away the guilt for me privately thinking I really don’t want to do commissions anymore, it doesn’t leave time for the paintings I really want to do from the heart. Don’t misunderstand, I give my all to my paintings, I’d just like to do some now for me🙏🏻🥰
Whats your most important tip to a beginner artist who cant afford such things like faber castell polychromos?
you don’t need expensive materials to make art. they may be more good quality but you can still create great great pieces with a pack of like £5.00 pencils. i recommend going to watch Kirsty’s video where she draws with cheap pencils :)
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I use Doms colour pencil for my drawing it's really cheep and results are owsm
Start small ! You will grow and make some money to upgrade your art supplies. Good quality art supplies don’t make an artist more skilled, it only makes their drawings in a better quality
Just get started with what you can afford. You don't need the best, most expensive supplies to make great art. The key is to create!
Im from Bangladesh and Faber castle polychromes are really expensive here because of the currency difference. But I believe where she lives these color pencils are affordable. A bit expensive but not too over the board.
I feel the same, I often turn most requests down simply because of the time crunch. I just never have the time these days to work around the clock to impress someone with a big project. I’m going into my sophomore year next year while keeping up with my driving education and cross country. Love your channel it’s helped me improve as an artist and I can’t thank you enough
I so agree. I did a painting for a cousin and was totally stressed that she would like it. I prefer doing things that bring me joy and if someone likes it, they can buy it.
Could you please talk about doable alternatives to earn money as an artist and that don't involve art commissions? I know that many people start to sell merch but no everyone has the money to invest in doing stickers, pins, prints etc. to start with merch directly.
If you already have a video about this topic could you just share the link?
Thank you for talking about this topic. I do art commissions but I'm also looking for other methods that don't contribute to my stress levels.
There are websites where you only have to create the artwork and they take care of everything else. However, they do take commissions from each sell you make.
Yes!! Pressure. Its one of the reasons why i don't do art commisions. And it sucks coz i always think that they might not like my work and some people are expecting more of my works.