Bonus. When the ship is chartered as time charter, than there is a fee paid by the charterer as” in lieu of hold cleaning” . This money depends on the type of cargo and market conditions. For 1 time charter trip it is usually usd 4500-5000 for a supramax size vessel. But if the cargo is clinker then it goes up to 15-20k usd and even $50k at a high market. If the vessel was in long period time charter it is a lower amount, say 500 per hold for regular cargo. But that does not necessarily be at the 1 time charter trip hence that the period charterer might charter the ship to another one and there is usually a difference between the period charter bonus and the any additional time charter. Chief , I suggest crew should follow market conditions, who is the charterer, is it voyage or time charter , and should get a copy of period time charter party ( remember this dies not reflect the actual bonus, it is the base minumum bonus) then they will figure out the bonus. This bonus paid by the charterer with the hire and usually never being paid fully by the headowner( then time charterer, additional time charterer etc etc)
Yes. It all depends if the Captain has the cojones to point this out. In my company we've had no problems so far and since our ship is in a long time charter, they give a bonus of $500/hold plus overtime. Thanks for the comment. It's very enlightening. I'll pin this for everyone's information.
Your confusing two issues, there is bonus in lieu of hold cleaning as per the c/p and there did simply the disponent owners giving the crew a performance bonus for turning the ship around quickly and saving them $$$$ in time , where the Chief is correct, a lot of these companies will not pay the crew any extra.
To some people this may be a mundane or boring topic, but I think it's fascinating to see the inner workings of a ship like this. We take for granted that sufficient amounts of products are available where and when we need them. Few of us realize how these products really get there and who does the jobs to make it happen. Thank you Chief for this whole video series! (We used to see bulk carriers in our port, New London, but it is now being converted to an offshore wind construction hub!)
What he said! I deliver the chemicals that are used for cleaning the vessels holds. I found this extremely interesting! I always wanted to know what happened to the effluent. It's good of you to take the time to post this. Thanks Chief! Looks like your crew did a bang up job....kudos!
I love these kind of documentaries, our "Sweet life" depends on the sweat of many great man, had I had a decent back, these kind of work would make me satisfied, but I had to get a scoliosis. Shipping via sea or land are the arteries of our civilization, were not for them, 90% of the world would still be a barbaric land.
Chief please thank your company for allowing you to make these videos. It shows a positive aspect of the shipping industry that we rarely see. You also show how a proper shipping company takes safety seriously.
primarily why i do not like ships. they all seem to be money hungry criminals that dont care about safety or the environment. this guy may change my opinions
The deck crew really earn their pay! The hold looked like it had never seen coal in it. Thanks for sharing this Chief as I had wondered about what happened when you need to carry grains.
For those still not convinced that the impressive cleaning job the crew did was not enough to protect a cargo of food, please be aware that the type and grade of grain hauled in bulk like this would not be anything that humans (or livestock) would eat directly, if at all. For example, this load of corn was most likely on it's way to be very heavily chemically processed into high fructose corn syrup. Coal residue is the least of the concerns in that process. Thank you again Chief. Great video as usual.
@@snarkywombat155 20 years in the farming and food processing industry. Lots of information at the FDA and US Dept of Agriculture. If you are interested in easier info access watch the documentary "King Corn".
@@snarkywombat155 Retired now, so chasing grandchildren and chickens. Was in Inventory management and quality control for everything from fresh produce to frozen products at one time or another. Nothing like opening a refer trailer that malfunctioned full of what used to be fresh meat.
Holds are accepted on the same, clean, dry, free of odor and remnants, free of lose rust standards for anything from cattlefeed, oilseeds and grains for all kinds of purposes including direct human consumption. From milling wheat, malt, to oilseed derivates that end up as cattlefeed. Maybe some corn in the US is likely to go the fructose route but its just as likely to end up as cow or pig chow :) source: 20+ years as a cargosurveyor and 20 years inlandshipping (riverbarges)
A certain amount of residue is allowed in food, including insect residue. As for coal, it's probably carcinogenic but in trace amounts is nothing more than carbon plus some trace metals, which, btw, even some plants and vegetables can take up. Source: JFGI
For those wondering, bulk cargos which are usually required to be shipped in Hospital (aka, Stringent) Clean conditions include: "kaolin/china clay, mineral sands including zircon, barytes, rutile sand, ilmenite, fluorspar, chrome ore, soda ash, rice in bulk, and high grades of wood pulp. Generally, these high standards of cleanliness will only be met by vessels trading exclusively with such cargoes. It will rarely be required in the tramp trades." Edit: I wonder why bulk rice needs hospital clean, but bulk corn only needs grain clean?
The bulk corn is most likely for processed food product or animal feeds also rice absorbed moisture so any moisture in the hull that is mixed with a contaminant will enter and contaminate the rice that’s more than likely for human consumption
Rice is hygroscopic which means it draws in moisture and can do so even out of the air itself. The hospital clean is required because should moisture or condensation appear in the holds it will inevitable get into the rice and it will carry contaminates from surfaces with it.
In the trucking industry, no tanker would ever be used to transport raw sewage followed by, say, milk for example. Food-grade containers must remain food-grade at all times. It's odd that does not apply to shipping as well.
Great presentation Chief, being on Aircraft Carriers in the US Navy in the fuels division, we were task to clean all of JP Fuel tanks twice a year, and we had a 4 man crew to do this, who were also required to patch any tank coatings that had peel off. It was a dirity job. The crew I had would get a no duty status at ports of call after any help unloads where completed. With that little perk I didn’t have any problems getting sailor to request to join that Crew. 😎👍
The Maritime industry owes you high gratitude for these videos. I have learned a lot today and while there are probably companies not following all the rules, at least I know there are rules.
There are no rules. Basically at time of loading port people will come on board and find deficits to fine for your deficiency, and in Australia I think my dad's company had to pay for local Australians exorbitant amounts to come and clean as they wouldn't pass unless the local Australians cleaned it. Basically lot of extortionate activities go on under the garb of following rules.
I'm currently in the process of joining a nautical college and your videos have truly reinforced my career choice keep up the great content and thank you for all the insight into your work
I worked in a Ship Repair Yard for 35 years after leaving the Royal Marines and know every inch of a Vessel. I love your videos, they bring back so many memories and are very informative for any one who has never been aboard Ship. Thank you Chief. Best wishes from the UK.
Companies who take the Deck Crews bonuses are like restaurants who take workers tips. It's a disgusting business practice and morally wrong. I hope this practice is not widespread. It's sad that economics in some countries make working for these companies necessary for some. Thanks as always Chief for teaching us and for bringing this situation to a public venue. Fair winds and following seas.
The dirtiest practice I have seen in the restaurant business was a place in Dublin, Ireland that advertised for staff, saying that the earnings would be 14 Euro per hour. However, what the restaurant paid out was only 11 Euro per hour, and the 3 Euro to make it 14 was taken from the tips that the staff got from the customers. If there was any more tips left after that the money was kept by the restaurant. I don't know if they still are doing it today. / B.
@@mbo191 It's a lousy practice and a cheap arsed move on the employer's part. Tips etc, not in the US, are a bona fide token of appreciattion from the customer to the server. I despise the US system of expected and often compulsory tipping and worse if the employer scams it. I once asked a waitress who gets the tips as I paid by credit card and she told me that the employers takes them. I asked her to remove the tip from the payment and gave it direct to her. This practise began in the US as means of "creating a customer service atmosphere" or so the lousy employer said. It allowed them to pay a lower wage hence consumer cost under that guise. Australians in general are known as lousy tippers but then, they are used to paying a fair price for the product and carry that expectation with them. Japanese sometimes feel insulted if you try to tip them as they believe it is their duty to provide good service. I found one place recently that added a 15% surcharge under the heading "gratuity". I was not a happy camper and paid only the product component, refusing to the extra as it was not gratuitous on my part. Sorry about side tracking :)
exactly, I've seen some restaurants pay their employees $2.50 an hour and try to wrestle 20% tips out of customers to make up the rest of their pay so in other words the customers are the ones paying the employees and the "employees" pocket all the profits, that's why when I go to restaurants I tip the server directly
There's practicly no tipping in Finland and the workers have all the power. People don't have to be scared to lose their jobs since they can get 50-80 % of the same money if they are just unemployed. Also there is a high need in Finland for the low income labor since people can get a free masters degree and most kids are getting it. A plumber can probably make at least the same salary in Finland as a teacher and through own company even more. If these washers wouldn't get their bonus in Finland they would walk. You would have to pay in the first place probably around 5000-7000 euros a month to the finnish crew members.
Thanks Chief for another look into the workings of a ocean going vessel. I will never have the opportunity to go to sea other than through your videos. I have enjoyed them all. Many more than once...
When I watch your videos, and of course watching all of you work, I think of the sacrifice each of you make being away from home, family and friends. Although I worked hard in my career, I traveled each day locally and always at home. I know that each of you do this to support your loved ones so they may have a good life. This is admirable at the least. Always enjoy your videos.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos Chief. My father was a Navy man and I think he never lost his love of going to sea. I get a look at something he loved with your videos. Thank you.
Thanks again chief always learning something new about what you do and the life. You must have been on hell of a great instructor at the academy. Keep them coming.
I just want to thank you for showing us what many people never get to see regarding these massive freighters and everything aboard them, inside and out.
Chief you are a great videographer. I look forward to your excellent observations of shipboard life. I spent time in the US Navy aboard ships and know what is like to be underway, but not the length of time seafarers like you spend, You provide a valuable needed service to the people around the globe. Keep those videos coming/
Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos. I honestly have no idea why i watch videos on channel other than just interest knowing how things work. Your ability to tell stories via video is amazing, if you ever decide to stop being a sea fairer you have a second career all lined up.
Very well written video, you preemptively answered all the questions I was going to comment! Edit: also, as someone who's work relies on global shipping (mostly from Japan and some from Taiwan all the way to the port of LA), thank you and all other crews for your hard work! It's rough times for global shipping rn, but society couldn't function without you guys, and you aren't paid enough!
This was interesting. In NZ we recently had a big sugar recall due to Lead contamination from an improperly cleaned bulk carrier. Pretty cool to see the process. Thanks chief!
Agents used to launch out to anchorage and shoot rust scale off the walls of the holds with shotguns! As an agent I don’t get to see the hold cleaning process so this video was great! Keep up the awesome videos!
@@williamdavis2059 I love to shoot so I hate I missed out on that! They shut that down here in Mobile, AL. because the lead shot over water isn’t allowed
As a marine engineer who lives/works exclusively in Canada where alot of coal is imported and grain is exported from I've often wondered how this works. Thanks for the awesome and informative video. I love to learn about other types of vessels even though its not something I deal with on mine. Well done to the hard working deck crew as well!
Chief, thanks for another great video. The things that have to happen on a cargo ship a land lover such as myself never understood or gave much thought to. I cannot imagine the hours of hard work the deck department puts into cleaning these holds. On another note, any company that would screw these guys out of a bonus are truly greedy heartless scumbags.
That's actually a pretty clean hold for corn, I've worked cleaning grain silos of similar capacity & the definitely weren't that clean (stock food industry)
The Silos just hold corn but the processing of that corn would make it clean so no big deal. It's not like cattle feed where we just crack and feed without a care in the world other than maybe a metal detector or Magnetic device passed over the feed.
Chief, would a ship like yours, with the condition of having some surface rust, take on cargo with a Hospital Clean requirement? If so, how long would that take to bring the holds to that condition? And is that expense taken on by the company or the client?
The standard of hospital clean is a requirement for certain cargoes, for example kaolin/china clay, mineral sands including zircon, barytes, rutile sand, ilmenite, fluorspar, chrome ore, soda ash, rice in bulk, and high grades of wood pulp. Generally, these high standards of cleanliness will only be met by vessels trading exclusively with such cargoes. It will rarely be required in the tramp trades.
Have a question, why was the helipad blurred out? Also, love your channel! You do amazing work and make me feel like at least some of the people out there moving around the goods of the world care deeply.
I am an American Merchant mariner, (with my own RUclips Channel) the 2 bulk carriering companies I have worked for, we have never received a bonus or even plenty pay for cleaning the cargo holds. We were hauling Grain and stone. Thanks for the video!
The amount of work people do on cargo ships is amazing. Extremely dedicated people doing things that would overwhelm most people. I surely hope that most companies treat the dedicated people on ships well. Unfortunately I have a feeling that is not the case. Keep the videos coming, we appreciate them and hopefully they can bring about change and admiration for the truly difficult job that you all do.
This reminds me of a story my father once told me, from the time he was chief aboard a small special cargo tanker of about 1600 tdw (perhaps a the small tanker was about as long as your modern bulk ship is wide 😊) during the early 1950s. They 1st carried a cargo of tar from France to the US, then used the short trip between some US East Coast ports, running empty, to clean the holds, with the waste water being dumped straight into the sea. The regulations being "somewhat" less strict back then I suppose. Then they carried a load of benzene from the US back to France. But despite the best efforts of the crew aboard the small tanker at cleaning the holds, the colour of the benzene had turned from clear to black from tar residues when they arrived in France. But apparently the recipient of the benzene in France accepted the cargo all the same. Then, after cleaning the holds yet again, they of all things carried a load of red wine (en bulk) from France to the US 😊😋. Don't know though if the wine got a tint of oak & tar along the way, before it was unloaded in the US though. In some ways I guess it was easier to be a merchant seafarer back in the days of my father than nowadays I guess.
Have you ever used rotating cleaning devices on such cargo spaces? I’ve used then on large crude tanks but also on 25 m diameter spraydryers and that works fine and is far less labour intensive! See Toftejorg rotating cleaning in place nozzles.
I have been sailing for years on a self unloader and cleaned the tunnel hundreds of times and have never received a bonus when passing inspection, the inspector would go down in the tunnel with white gloves on and rub his hands on everything if they were clean when he exited the tunnel it was considered a pass. I only seen it fail a couple of times and that was when coal was the previous cargo
Chief-Appreciate your videos, it’s amazing what can be accomplished. In my younger days as a Chief Mate on tankers, several times I had the brutality difficult job of running the clean up from Crude Oil to Grain. The most difficult was a 225,000 ton VLCC.
Greetings Chief - please can you do a video on the Arvin sinking - I.e. the ship that snapped in half- what would you have done in that situation - could the poor crew who died have been saved? Etc Did the actual keel snap or was it just the hull stripped away from the keel?
@@piezerchief that’s a good point in itself - what on earth was is doing at open sea? Is that legal? What class of vessel was it? To the uneducated such as myself it looks like a huge sea worthy ship / pretty interesting to learn that it’s an inland vessel - makes the deaths even more terrible 😢 was the captain charged with manslaughter?
@@jordonpilling someone did do a video on it but I can't find it but if look at people who have worked on her in the comments of her sinking they all state poor maintenance. Her Hull snapped in half due to force of the waves she was never built for it being a river/canal bulk carrier
Chief. Love the views into the day to day life of over the ocean transport and life. Very few people realize that everything they use day to day gets to them by sea and truck, without one or the other they would be using leaves instead of TP.
When the vessel is under your charge, it's a foregone conclusion that it would pass any stringent test under the Sun!! Nice educative video. Thanks Chief 🙏💐
I met a Filipino guy many years ago in San Francisco who told me about his experience of working on a bad ship. Conditions he told me were so horrendous that he and a fellow crew mate abandoned the ship in a port in Mexico and payed coyotes to cross the border to get in the USA. Your company looks like a reputable one which pays it's workers.
Question for you, Chief Makoi. As a sea-faring content creator, What are the challenges that comes with making this kind of content? I notice that you have to censor a lot of things... are you required to show your videos to your employer before uploading it? Are you able to edit the videos directly on the ship, or do you have to wait to be off your ship before editing and uploading videos?
Excellent and informative as always Chief👍 It infuriates me when employers think that " it's your job to do.... you don't deserve a bonus" I can't even begin to imagine how much work it is to clean ALL the holds,
Thanks Chief, interesting. I would think whoever books your jobs would avoid a dirty to clean change like that. Maybe it's highly competitive to get loads, so they take any job where the price is good. Maybe you could speak to how your operations are scheduled and managed in a future video. Thanks again, smooth seas.
Ships are traded like a commodity, and the way they operate is more like being an Uber driver, where you don’t always get to pick your next lift and positioning yourself to get the most rides takes a bit of strategy, but end of the day any ride is better no ride , that’s the layman’s terms I use to explain to people
Excellent video. If I’d been a merchant marine I’d want to have been a member of your crew. It’s good to know there are people of high integrity in leadership of those crews.
Thanks Chief for another very informative video showing the hard work of the crew and the process required for cleaning the cargo holes. One question left: Your video shows very nice sunny weather conditions. But how are the cargo holes dried under rainy or very high humidity? Do you use air blowers or heaters to support drying the cargo coles?
Eventually liquid will drop to the floor. Mopping would do the trick. Besides, if the next cargo is sensitive to water, loading ops wouldn't take place anyway if it's raining so there's time to dry up.
Jaw dropped when I saw the inside of the hold. I had never heard of or seen such a concept before, blew my mind and changed the way I think about supply and demand and shit like that
Out of curiosity Chief, is enclosed space training part of seafaring?? Just watching them cleaning the tight confines of the bilge area and that it is below base level. (if anyone is unsure of what classifies officially as an enclosed space, it is one where deadly gasses can accumulate without ventilation, and can be lethal and invisible to unsuspecting workers that are due to enter said area. Its a pretty serious risk assessment of any where you work, basically). Just something that came to mind.
My guess is that everyone on the ship receives such training & periodic refreshers, amongst many other trainings. Safety trainings and briefings are a fixture in many industries like this. In construction, we not only had daily briefings, but also task-by-task briefings (JHA’s) before workers could commence w/ a task.
@Kenneth Johnson Yes very good point, the entire hold itself is a confined space you're right. The little bilge area just counts as both a confined and enclosed space I suppose! I always associate confinement with enclosed spaces (having worked in a few aircraft main fuel tanks and wing tanks), yet the danger of an enclosed space can be the size of a room, or in this case, a whole cargo hold. Always important to check air quality and ventilation! The training really made me conscious of how dangerous and lethal areas could be, and without the training you would never ever know, I really think it should be made more prominent in industries to do that training regularly.
I fuckin love thus channel man, it's great, as someone who doesn't like the ocean seeing the day to day life of the guys that keep the world moving is fantastic
Hello everyone! In this episode, I answer the questions raised in the previous video about Cleaning the Ship's Cargo Hold: Can ships load grains after dirty cargo? Where does the wash water go?
Hey Chief, can you enlighten us on the Crystal Serenity cruise ship? I believe it was seized in the Bahamas for not paying it's fuel bill of $4.6 million. It was being sought by US Marshalls.
hi from uk 👍👋 always good to watch varied side of ship and mariner life the ins and out thank you and safe shipping 👍my views on cleaners is they deserve what they earn without these men and woman.the ship would not be able to carry on and there must be a quite big bill to come with hospital clean to ( when does a clean get warranted? And does loads change per drop per port or do the vessels do month of coal and month of say corn etc or could it just depend on the whats there to ship from ports? ) just for financial purpose has to.make general sense too company
Chief MAKOi... You mentioned in this video, “Hospital Clean”. What kind of bulk products would be transported requiring that level of clean ? Thank you for the great information contained in your videos...!
A bonus is paid for above-the-norm work speed, work quality, and work hours, and some companies KEEP this for themselves rather than pay it 100% to those who do the work to earn the bonus and KEEP THE ASSHOLE OWNERS IN BUSINESS? This is akin to a restaurant owner keeping the tip you gave to your server. What trashy people! It is no surprise to hear of this, just disappointing to see examples of unbridled greed that are so specific and clear-cut. What a damned shame. Keep up with the excellent content (and the oblique reporting on industry practices that outsiders need to be made aware of). Great video, Chief!
Chief I haul grain (soybeans mainly) Trying to find a "food grade" shipping container can be a hassle. So if I can't find suitable equipment for the steamship line in the booking. I a driver get to cancel the run. One place we load at puts a guy in with a black light and they seal him up. Then they open it up. He gets out and says load or no load. Thanks for the education.
Hi there Chief ! Once again great video and insight to ship operation. Very educational and informative to non-seafarers and even seafarers themselve. Kudos to the crew for their hardwork and hats off to you for the great effort. Keep it coming 😄 Looking forward to future videos.
@@robertadams2857 bonuses like that are not usually included in the employment contract. It comes from the charterers and not from the management company's budget.
Hey Chief, excellent video. Thank you for delivering a well explained insight in your trade. One question though, did you ever compared the fuel consumption of your cargo ship empty and loaded? And if how big is the difference unloaded/loaded. Wish you all tue best for the future.
The standard of hospital clean is a requirement for certain cargoes, for example kaolin/china clay, mineral sands including zircon, barytes, rutile sand, ilmenite, fluorspar, chrome ore, soda ash, rice in bulk, and high grades of wood pulp. Generally, these high standards of cleanliness will only be met by vessels trading exclusively with such cargoes. It will rarely be required in the tramp trades.
@@moltderenou no need, they can make the ship lean on a side through ballasting/deballasting. Completely empty bulk carriers are normally back-heavy anyway, which is why the bilge wells are usually located at the aft side of the cargo holds.
Done a few shovel cleans in Australia, Miss the job as a stevedore, Met some great shipcrew members from all around the world! Love the work Chief! - magnitide made it a long shift, being such a heavy ore
The job requirements for deck crew must include "weight proportional to height", no former football linemen are going to squeeze into those bilge openings! How often do the holds get painted? Is that something only done during ship maintenance periods rather during operations? Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE 🚢❤️😷
This video just made me realise that we are living in such a complex interconnected world. And yet, countries have vast militaries and keep grandstanding to provoke war. All these hardworking people deserve the assurance that war never comes to society.
Some people have no clue how they get their food, and product's in a store. The huge job of farming, and growing it, and the gamble you take on the weather. Some guy's lose big, even with crop insurance. You also have crops that are shipped in or out, and the work in transporting by truck, train, and cargo ship's, there are many, many steps involved to get the product to food manufacturer's, and finally to the store. Thanks for showing this, i find it very interesting, as well as the hard work these guy's do. God bless.
From the news, only a few dozen are lined up in the anchorage area. That's mostly because they sent all the other ships out to drift while waiting for their turn.
If I had to guess , I would think Your Crew got the bonus as they looked willing to do the job and seemed happy. I have noticed in many of Your videos the Crew always seems content. God Bless You , and your Crew , stay safe out there.
Hey Chief. Grain, coal, metal ore etc... how are all these orders placed? Are they based on contracts, single orders or what? How does this work? (can one order for a pizza delivery? 🍕🍕😂😂 )
Thank you chief, I was going to ask about the wash residue, thanks for explaining just goes to show, cleanliness really next to Godless. Thanks for the film.
Hi Chief MAKOI, I work for a company in England that supplies and maintains the machinery used to clear the cargo holds ie: front end loaders, tele handlers, and skid steer machines and have done so for many years I used to drive the machines years ago and always found it a challenge to clear as much cargo with the machine to reduce hand cleaning, chrome ore and pig iron were amongst the worst as of there structure, rutile sand and ilmenite were pretty dusty and very heavy and petroleum coke could be very steamy and disorienting, I have a couple of pictures of a vessel at IBT at Immingham in the Humber estuary with a tele handler with a small concrete breaker as an attachment that has an oak block which is used against the inside of the hold to vibrate the walls and bulk heads to shake loose the materials that get trapped in the ribs and on stair landings etc, they receive various iron ores, coal and coke as raw materials for the steelworks at Scunthorpe a few miles away, being in the hold you can see the actul size for yourself so hats off to you and your crew for a fantastic job well done.
I've read accounts of ships which were fired with coal (back in the day) and coaling must have been a nightmare. Then we've seen stokers shoveling the coal into the furnaces as well. I imagine there was a great sigh of relief when ships switched from coal to oil, but that of course brought challenges as well. Thanks Chief for this video. I was wondering how they cleaned up after coal was carried. Always enjoy your videos!!! Thank you!!!
Bonus. When the ship is chartered as time charter, than there is a fee paid by the charterer as” in lieu of hold cleaning” . This money depends on the type of cargo and market conditions. For 1 time charter trip it is usually usd 4500-5000 for a supramax size vessel. But if the cargo is clinker then it goes up to 15-20k usd and even $50k at a high market. If the vessel was in long period time charter it is a lower amount, say 500 per hold for regular cargo. But that does not necessarily be at the 1 time charter trip hence that the period charterer might charter the ship to another one and there is usually a difference between the period charter bonus and the any additional time charter. Chief , I suggest crew should follow market conditions, who is the charterer, is it voyage or time charter , and should get a copy of period time charter party ( remember this dies not reflect the actual bonus, it is the base minumum bonus) then they will figure out the bonus. This bonus paid by the charterer with the hire and usually never being paid fully by the headowner( then time charterer, additional time charterer etc etc)
Yes. It all depends if the Captain has the cojones to point this out. In my company we've had no problems so far and since our ship is in a long time charter, they give a bonus of $500/hold plus overtime.
Thanks for the comment. It's very enlightening. I'll pin this for everyone's information.
Your confusing two issues, there is bonus in lieu of hold cleaning as per the c/p and there did simply the disponent owners giving the crew a performance bonus for turning the ship around quickly and saving them $$$$ in time , where the Chief is correct, a lot of these companies will not pay the crew any extra.
Sometimes I wish I had the ability to work on board a ship but it's not possible
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you said charter so many times I got confused and stop reading :< me dumb dumb
To some people this may be a mundane or boring topic, but I think it's fascinating to see the inner workings of a ship like this. We take for granted that sufficient amounts of products are available where and when we need them. Few of us realize how these products really get there and who does the jobs to make it happen. Thank you Chief for this whole video series! (We used to see bulk carriers in our port, New London, but it is now being converted to an offshore wind construction hub!)
The strange thing is you never hear about this stuff.
The same applies for truckers too! No matter what you buy, you wouldn’t have it if a truck didn’t deliver it!
What he said! I deliver the chemicals that are used for cleaning the vessels holds. I found this extremely interesting! I always wanted to know what happened to the effluent. It's good of you to take the time to post this. Thanks Chief! Looks like your crew did a bang up job....kudos!
I think most people would find this interesting.
I love these kind of documentaries, our "Sweet life" depends on the sweat of many great man, had I had a decent back, these kind of work would make me satisfied, but I had to get a scoliosis.
Shipping via sea or land are the arteries of our civilization, were not for them, 90% of the world would still be a barbaric land.
Chief please thank your company for allowing you to make these videos. It shows a positive aspect of the shipping industry that we rarely see. You also show how a proper shipping company takes safety seriously.
Yeah, the transparency is palpable! It’s an important job and you deserve to be proud!!!!
primarily why i do not like ships. they all seem to be money hungry criminals that dont care about safety or the environment. this guy may change my opinions
Safety yet no masks or safety glasses being used.
The deck crew really earn their pay! The hold looked like it had never seen coal in it. Thanks for sharing this Chief as I had wondered about what happened when you need to carry grains.
no unions!
were you get slaves?
I love these videos Chief! They're windows into a world that most people never even think about, let alone see. Always fascinating.
I agree! Very informative and entertaining.
My thoughts exactly 🙂
For those still not convinced that the impressive cleaning job the crew did was not enough to protect a cargo of food, please be aware that the type and grade of grain hauled in bulk like this would not be anything that humans (or livestock) would eat directly, if at all. For example, this load of corn was most likely on it's way to be very heavily chemically processed into high fructose corn syrup. Coal residue is the least of the concerns in that process.
Thank you again Chief. Great video as usual.
@@snarkywombat155 20 years in the farming and food processing industry.
Lots of information at the FDA and US Dept of Agriculture. If you are interested in easier info access watch the documentary "King Corn".
@@snarkywombat155 Retired now, so chasing grandchildren and chickens. Was in Inventory management and quality control for everything from fresh produce to frozen products at one time or another. Nothing like opening a refer trailer that malfunctioned full of what used to be fresh meat.
Holds are accepted on the same, clean, dry, free of odor and remnants, free of lose rust standards for anything from cattlefeed, oilseeds and grains for all kinds of purposes including direct human consumption. From milling wheat, malt, to oilseed derivates that end up as cattlefeed.
Maybe some corn in the US is likely to go the fructose route but its just as likely to end up as cow or pig chow :)
source: 20+ years as a cargosurveyor and 20 years inlandshipping (riverbarges)
A certain amount of residue is allowed in food, including insect residue. As for coal, it's probably carcinogenic but in trace amounts is nothing more than carbon plus some trace metals, which, btw, even some plants and vegetables can take up. Source: JFGI
For those wondering, bulk cargos which are usually required to be shipped in Hospital (aka, Stringent) Clean conditions include: "kaolin/china clay, mineral sands including zircon, barytes, rutile sand, ilmenite, fluorspar, chrome ore, soda ash, rice in bulk, and high grades of wood pulp. Generally, these high standards of cleanliness will only be met by vessels trading exclusively with such cargoes. It will rarely be required in the tramp trades."
Edit: I wonder why bulk rice needs hospital clean, but bulk corn only needs grain clean?
Probably because the rice hull is already removed so no more protective coating compared to corn.
The bulk corn is most likely for processed food product or animal feeds also rice absorbed moisture so any moisture in the hull that is mixed with a contaminant will enter and contaminate the rice that’s more than likely for human consumption
Rice is hygroscopic which means it draws in moisture and can do so even out of the air itself.
The hospital clean is required because should moisture or condensation appear in the holds it will inevitable get into the rice and it will carry contaminates from surfaces with it.
Most bulk corn is for animal feeds. Rice is for humans
In the trucking industry, no tanker would ever be used to transport raw sewage followed by, say, milk for example. Food-grade containers must remain food-grade at all times. It's odd that does not apply to shipping as well.
Great presentation Chief, being on Aircraft Carriers in the US Navy in the fuels division, we were task to clean all of JP Fuel tanks twice a year, and we had a 4 man crew to do this, who were also required to patch any tank coatings that had peel off. It was a dirity job. The crew I had would get a no duty status at ports of call after any help unloads where completed. With that little perk I didn’t have any problems getting sailor to request to join that Crew. 😎👍
Big daddy MAKOi looks after the boys. Heavy manual labor like this deserves a bonus!
The Maritime industry owes you high gratitude for these videos. I have learned a lot today and while there are probably companies not following all the rules, at least I know there are rules.
There are no rules.
Basically at time of loading port people will come on board and find deficits to fine for your deficiency, and in Australia I think my dad's company had to pay for local Australians exorbitant amounts to come and clean as they wouldn't pass unless the local Australians cleaned it.
Basically lot of extortionate activities go on under the garb of following rules.
I'm currently in the process of joining a nautical college and your videos have truly reinforced my career choice keep up the great content and thank you for all the insight into your work
I worked in a Ship Repair Yard for 35 years after leaving the Royal Marines and know every inch of a Vessel. I love your videos, they bring back so many memories and are very informative for any one who has never been aboard Ship. Thank you Chief. Best wishes from the UK.
Great video! The explanation of different grades of clean was especially interesting.
Companies who take the Deck Crews bonuses are like restaurants who take workers tips. It's a disgusting business practice and morally wrong. I hope this practice is not widespread. It's sad that economics in some countries make working for these companies necessary for some. Thanks as always Chief for teaching us and for bringing this situation to a public venue. Fair winds and following seas.
The dirtiest practice I have seen in the restaurant business was a place in Dublin, Ireland that advertised for staff, saying that the earnings would be 14 Euro per hour. However, what the restaurant paid out was only 11 Euro per hour, and the 3 Euro to make it 14 was taken from the tips that the staff got from the customers. If there was any more tips left after that the money was kept by the restaurant. I don't know if they still are doing it today. / B.
@@mbo191 It's a lousy practice and a cheap arsed move on the employer's part. Tips etc, not in the US, are a bona fide token of appreciattion from the customer to the server.
I despise the US system of expected and often compulsory tipping and worse if the employer scams it. I once asked a waitress who gets the tips as I paid by credit card and she told me that the employers takes them. I asked her to remove the tip from the payment and gave it direct to her. This practise began in the US as means of "creating a customer service atmosphere" or so the lousy employer said. It allowed them to pay a lower wage hence consumer cost under that guise. Australians in general are known as lousy tippers but then, they are used to paying a fair price for the product and carry that expectation with them. Japanese sometimes feel insulted if you try to tip them as they believe it is their duty to provide good service. I found one place recently that added a 15% surcharge under the heading "gratuity". I was not a happy camper and paid only the product component, refusing to the extra as it was not gratuitous on my part. Sorry about side tracking :)
exactly, I've seen some restaurants pay their employees $2.50 an hour and try to wrestle 20% tips out of customers to make up the rest of their pay so in other words the customers are the ones paying the employees and the "employees" pocket all the profits, that's why when I go to restaurants I tip the server directly
There's practicly no tipping in Finland and the workers have all the power. People don't have to be scared to lose their jobs since they can get 50-80 % of the same money if they are just unemployed. Also there is a high need in Finland for the low income labor since people can get a free masters degree and most kids are getting it. A plumber can probably make at least the same salary in Finland as a teacher and through own company even more. If these washers wouldn't get their bonus in Finland they would walk. You would have to pay in the first place probably around 5000-7000 euros a month to the finnish crew members.
@@nakke3 a good country
Thanks Chief for another look into the workings of a ocean going vessel. I will never have the opportunity to go to sea other than through your videos. I have enjoyed them all. Many more than once...
Thanks Tom. I really appreciate that.
When I watch your videos, and of course watching all of you work, I think of the sacrifice each of you make being away from home, family and friends. Although I worked hard in my career, I traveled each day locally and always at home. I know that each of you do this to support your loved ones so they may have a good life. This is admirable at the least. Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks Chief Makoi. Very informative. Wishing you and your crew safe sailing.
Huge respect for the deck crew, and yourself. I find it reprehensible that any bonus is not shared amoung the crew. Great job Chief, thanks.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos Chief. My father was a Navy man and I think he never lost his love of going to sea. I get a look at something he loved with your videos. Thank you.
Thanks again chief always learning something new about what you do and the life. You must have been on hell of a great instructor at the academy. Keep them coming.
I just want to thank you for showing us what many people never get to see regarding these massive freighters and everything aboard them, inside and out.
Sir, ur vdo has shown me what we are being taught in our pre-sea training, it made the topic very clear. Thank you. Salute from India.
Chief you are a great videographer. I look forward to your excellent observations of shipboard life. I spent time in the US Navy aboard ships and know what is like to be underway, but not the length of time seafarers like you spend, You provide a valuable needed service to the people around the globe. Keep those videos coming/
Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos. I honestly have no idea why i watch videos on channel other than just interest knowing how things work. Your ability to tell stories via video is amazing, if you ever decide to stop being a sea fairer you have a second career all lined up.
I appreciate the perspective of a person standing in the hold. Holy Cow! That is huge!
Great topic Chief! I used to work in the coal industry and always wondered how these things are accomplished. Lots of hard work from dedicated crew.
Very well written video, you preemptively answered all the questions I was going to comment!
Edit: also, as someone who's work relies on global shipping (mostly from Japan and some from Taiwan all the way to the port of LA), thank you and all other crews for your hard work! It's rough times for global shipping rn, but society couldn't function without you guys, and you aren't paid enough!
This was interesting. In NZ we recently had a big sugar recall due to Lead contamination from an improperly cleaned bulk carrier. Pretty cool to see the process. Thanks chief!
Agents used to launch out to anchorage and shoot rust scale off the walls of the holds with shotguns! As an agent I don’t get to see the hold cleaning process so this video was great! Keep up the awesome videos!
lawless skum people here!
Cooling agent u need?
I have done this myself before ! Not common anymore , but once in a while in Miss River or maybe Columbia River
@@williamdavis2059 I love to shoot so I hate I missed out on that! They shut that down here in Mobile, AL. because the lead shot over water isn’t allowed
Thanks chief for another adequate explanation of what occurs when cargo holds are cleaned properly.
You inspire me a lot chief I'm a EO cadet ,thankyou for the videos🙂
As a marine engineer who lives/works exclusively in Canada where alot of coal is imported and grain is exported from I've often wondered how this works. Thanks for the awesome and informative video. I love to learn about other types of vessels even though its not something I deal with on mine. Well done to the hard working deck crew as well!
Chief, thanks for another great video. The things that have to happen on a cargo ship a land lover such as myself never understood or gave much thought to. I cannot imagine the hours of hard work the deck department puts into cleaning these holds. On another note, any company that would screw these guys out of a bonus are truly greedy heartless scumbags.
great videos chief i was 41 years in the british merchant navy great memories thank you
That's actually a pretty clean hold for corn, I've worked cleaning grain silos of similar capacity & the definitely weren't that clean (stock food industry)
The Silos just hold corn but the processing of that corn would make it clean so no big deal. It's not like cattle feed where we just crack and feed without a care in the world other than maybe a metal detector or Magnetic device passed over the feed.
Thank you for posting this video Chief . Your style of leadership is respected Sir .
Chief, would a ship like yours, with the condition of having some surface rust, take on cargo with a Hospital Clean requirement? If so, how long would that take to bring the holds to that condition? And is that expense taken on by the company or the client?
The standard of hospital clean is a requirement for certain cargoes, for example kaolin/china clay, mineral sands including zircon, barytes, rutile sand, ilmenite, fluorspar, chrome ore, soda ash, rice in bulk, and high grades of wood pulp. Generally, these high standards of cleanliness will only be met by vessels trading exclusively with such cargoes. It will rarely be required in the tramp trades.
@@ChiefMAKOi Understood. Thanks, Chief!
Tell your crew thanks. Without you guys we wouldnt have the things we need.
Have a question, why was the helipad blurred out? Also, love your channel! You do amazing work and make me feel like at least some of the people out there moving around the goods of the world care deeply.
I wondered exactly the same thing. I'd love to find out the answer. Thanks!
Same
I guess it was because the ship's name is there.
@@michael001437 then he should have blurred only where the ship's name written
@@fti8444 that's a fair bit more effort for wait payoff? so you can see the helipad that we can all still recognize?
What a extreme switch! Coal to corn! Those men certainly earned and deserve their bonus!
You make such wonderful content. Thanks. I was never into ships, but now after your videos, I wait anciously
I am an American Merchant mariner, (with my own RUclips Channel) the 2 bulk carriering companies I have worked for, we have never received a bonus or even plenty pay for cleaning the cargo holds. We were hauling Grain and stone. Thanks for the video!
This video answers a few of my questions and it was interesting …. Salamat po chief
Happy to help
The amount of work people do on cargo ships is amazing. Extremely dedicated people doing things that would overwhelm most people. I surely hope that most companies treat the dedicated people on ships well. Unfortunately I have a feeling that is not the case. Keep the videos coming, we appreciate them and hopefully they can bring about change and admiration for the truly difficult job that you all do.
This reminds me of a story my father once told me, from the time he was chief aboard a small special cargo tanker of about 1600 tdw (perhaps a the small tanker was about as long as your modern bulk ship is wide 😊) during the early 1950s.
They 1st carried a cargo of tar from France to the US, then used the short trip between some US East Coast ports, running empty, to clean the holds, with the waste water being dumped straight into the sea. The regulations being "somewhat" less strict back then I suppose. Then they carried a load of benzene from the US back to France. But despite the best efforts of the crew aboard the small tanker at cleaning the holds, the colour of the benzene had turned from clear to black from tar residues when they arrived in France. But apparently the recipient of the benzene in France accepted the cargo all the same.
Then, after cleaning the holds yet again, they of all things carried a load of red wine (en bulk) from France to the US 😊😋. Don't know though if the wine got a tint of oak & tar along the way, before it was unloaded in the US though.
In some ways I guess it was easier to be a merchant seafarer back in the days of my father than nowadays I guess.
Benzene to red wine! Oh the amount of cancer that must have caused...
That year of wine from that certain winery definitely got a distinct taste pallet
😝😝😝😝😝😝🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
"I'm getting tarry palate notes with a hint of benzene on the aftermouth" XD
@@rosegreensummer captin Morgan in charge of that cargo?🍹🥂🍾
From Coal to Corn! We just don’t really appreciate fully how our goods get to us! Thank you Chief!
Why do you blur the helipad?
I was wondering the same thing
Has the companies name
@mtmadigan82 the ship is operated by Nomikos shipping , that ship is easily recognizable.
Have you ever used rotating cleaning devices on such cargo spaces? I’ve used then on large crude tanks but also on 25 m diameter spraydryers and that works fine and is far less labour intensive! See Toftejorg rotating cleaning in place nozzles.
@@josephbennett3482😊😊
Sa lahat ng seamans blogger na mga Pinoy ang channel mo ang pina ka the best nice video and you speak english lakas maka sosyal..keep on vlogging.
Thanks! I just want to show that we can be really competitive globally. 😊
Another excellent informative video. Great job!
You're a natural teacher - easy going but informative.
I have been sailing for years on a self unloader and cleaned the tunnel hundreds of times and have never received a bonus when passing inspection, the inspector would go down in the tunnel with white gloves on and rub his hands on everything if they were clean when he exited the tunnel it was considered a pass. I only seen it fail a couple of times and that was when coal was the previous cargo
Bonus is usually stipulated in the Charter Party Agreement.
Chief-Appreciate your videos, it’s amazing what can be accomplished. In my younger days as a Chief Mate on tankers, several times I had the brutality difficult job of running the clean up from Crude Oil to Grain. The most difficult was a 225,000 ton VLCC.
Greetings Chief - please can you do a video
on the Arvin sinking - I.e. the ship that snapped in half- what would you have done in that situation - could the poor crew who died have been saved? Etc Did the actual keel snap or was it just the hull stripped away from the keel?
I'll see what I can dig up.
It was a badly maintained river boat attempting to cross the sea I mean I dunno what more there is too it
@@piezerchief that’s a good point in itself - what on earth was is doing at open sea? Is that legal? What class of vessel was it? To the uneducated such as myself it looks like a huge sea worthy ship / pretty interesting to learn that it’s an inland vessel - makes the deaths even more terrible 😢 was the captain charged with manslaughter?
@@jordonpilling someone did do a video on it but I can't find it but if look at people who have worked on her in the comments of her sinking they all state poor maintenance. Her Hull snapped in half due to force of the waves she was never built for it being a river/canal bulk carrier
Chief. Love the views into the day to day life of over the ocean transport and life. Very few people realize that everything they use day to day gets to them by sea and truck, without one or the other they would be using leaves instead of TP.
Hey Chief MAKOi! Cool vid dude! Great job on the filming and editing! Ride ride ride!
When the vessel is under your charge, it's a foregone conclusion that it would pass any stringent test under the Sun!! Nice educative video. Thanks Chief 🙏💐
I met a Filipino guy many years ago in San Francisco who told me about his experience of working on a bad ship. Conditions he told me were so horrendous that he and a fellow crew mate abandoned the ship in a port in Mexico and payed coyotes to cross the border to get in the USA. Your company looks like a reputable one which pays it's workers.
That is an insane amount of labor. Much respect to the mariners around the world who keep everything running smoothly in a globalized society
Question for you, Chief Makoi. As a sea-faring content creator, What are the challenges that comes with making this kind of content? I notice that you have to censor a lot of things... are you required to show your videos to your employer before uploading it? Are you able to edit the videos directly on the ship, or do you have to wait to be off your ship before editing and uploading videos?
Excellent and informative as always Chief👍
It infuriates me when employers think that " it's your job to do.... you don't deserve a bonus"
I can't even begin to imagine how much work it is to clean ALL the holds,
Thanks Chief, interesting. I would think whoever books your jobs would avoid a dirty to clean change like that. Maybe it's highly competitive to get loads, so they take any job where the price is good. Maybe you could speak to how your operations are scheduled and managed in a future video. Thanks again, smooth seas.
Ships are traded like a commodity, and the way they operate is more like being an Uber driver, where you don’t always get to pick your next lift and positioning yourself to get the most rides takes a bit of strategy, but end of the day any ride is better no ride , that’s the layman’s terms I use to explain to people
Excellent video. If I’d been a merchant marine I’d want to have been a member of your crew. It’s good to know there are people of high integrity in leadership of those crews.
you think they can pay mortgage?
muahahahahahaha
Thanks Chief for another very informative video showing the hard work of the crew and the process required for cleaning the cargo holes.
One question left:
Your video shows very nice sunny weather conditions.
But how are the cargo holes dried under rainy or very high humidity?
Do you use air blowers or heaters to support drying the cargo coles?
Eventually liquid will drop to the floor. Mopping would do the trick. Besides, if the next cargo is sensitive to water, loading ops wouldn't take place anyway if it's raining so there's time to dry up.
Jaw dropped when I saw the inside of the hold. I had never heard of or seen such a concept before, blew my mind and changed the way I think about supply and demand and shit like that
Out of curiosity Chief, is enclosed space training part of seafaring?? Just watching them cleaning the tight confines of the bilge area and that it is below base level. (if anyone is unsure of what classifies officially as an enclosed space, it is one where deadly gasses can accumulate without ventilation, and can be lethal and invisible to unsuspecting workers that are due to enter said area. Its a pretty serious risk assessment of any where you work, basically). Just something that came to mind.
My guess is that everyone on the ship receives such training & periodic refreshers, amongst many other trainings. Safety trainings and briefings are a fixture in many industries like this. In construction, we not only had daily briefings, but also task-by-task briefings (JHA’s) before workers could commence w/ a task.
Yes it is included in regular drills.
@Kenneth Johnson Yes very good point, the entire hold itself is a confined space you're right. The little bilge area just counts as both a confined and enclosed space I suppose! I always associate confinement with enclosed spaces (having worked in a few aircraft main fuel tanks and wing tanks), yet the danger of an enclosed space can be the size of a room, or in this case, a whole cargo hold. Always important to check air quality and ventilation! The training really made me conscious of how dangerous and lethal areas could be, and without the training you would never ever know, I really think it should be made more prominent in industries to do that training regularly.
I fuckin love thus channel man, it's great, as someone who doesn't like the ocean seeing the day to day life of the guys that keep the world moving is fantastic
Hello everyone! In this episode, I answer the questions raised in the previous video about Cleaning the Ship's Cargo Hold: Can ships load grains after dirty cargo? Where does the wash water go?
Really love these topics. May seem mundane, but to me it's fascinating.
Thanks for doing these!
Hey Chief, can you enlighten us on the Crystal Serenity cruise ship? I believe it was seized in the Bahamas for not paying it's fuel bill of $4.6 million. It was being sought by US Marshalls.
hi from uk 👍👋 always good to watch varied side of ship and mariner life the ins and out thank you and safe shipping 👍my views on cleaners is they deserve what they earn without these men and woman.the ship would not be able to carry on and there must be a quite big bill to come with hospital clean to ( when does a clean get warranted? And does loads change per drop per port or do the vessels do month of coal and month of say corn etc or could it just depend on the whats there to ship from ports? ) just for financial purpose has to.make general sense too company
Chief MAKOi... You mentioned in this video, “Hospital Clean”. What kind of bulk products would be transported requiring that level of clean ? Thank you for the great information contained in your videos...!
@@MrNorker77 to ❤️ be vb
Thanks for doing these videos. I am amazed at the professionalism of the ships and their crews.
A bonus is paid for above-the-norm work speed, work quality, and work hours, and some companies KEEP this for themselves rather than pay it 100% to those who do the work to earn the bonus and KEEP THE ASSHOLE OWNERS IN BUSINESS? This is akin to a restaurant owner keeping the tip you gave to your server. What trashy people! It is no surprise to hear of this, just disappointing to see examples of unbridled greed that are so specific and clear-cut. What a damned shame. Keep up with the excellent content (and the oblique reporting on industry practices that outsiders need to be made aware of). Great video, Chief!
it's kind of worse cos you're so isolated at sea, on land you can eg stand outside the restaurant telling customers or post on facebook!
Thanks for these excellent videos. They give me a deeper respect for what it takes to ship goods, and in this case to feed a nation.
Chief I haul grain (soybeans mainly)
Trying to find a "food grade" shipping container can be a hassle. So if I can't find suitable equipment for the steamship line in the booking. I a driver get to cancel the run.
One place we load at puts a guy in with a black light and they seal him up.
Then they open it up. He gets out and says load or no load. Thanks for the education.
They are more strict compared to ships.
Hi there Chief ! Once again great video and insight to ship operation. Very educational and informative to non-seafarers and even seafarers themselve. Kudos to the crew for their hardwork and hats off to you for the great effort. Keep it coming 😄 Looking forward to future videos.
Thanks for the info, horrible the crew doesn't get the bonuses at times. I bet some ships skip the cleaning process to save money?
They can't skip it. If the inspection fails, the ship won't be loaded with cargo.
If the crew gets paid or not would be in the contract? They would know going in.
@@robertadams2857 bonuses like that are not usually included in the employment contract. It comes from the charterers and not from the management company's budget.
@@ChiefMAKOi got it.
At 39 I look forward to your videos like Saturday morning cartoons!
Hey Chief, excellent video. Thank you for delivering a well explained insight in your trade. One question though, did you ever compared the fuel consumption of your cargo ship empty and loaded? And if how big is the difference unloaded/loaded.
Wish you all tue best for the future.
There's a few tons difference. Depending on the engine specs.
Super nice vlog, awesome to see how things are done.
Obviously a bonus is needed to keep those hard workers motivated.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for another excellent video, Chief. What kind of cargo requires a hospital clean?
The standard of hospital clean is a requirement for certain cargoes, for example kaolin/china clay, mineral sands including zircon, barytes, rutile sand, ilmenite, fluorspar, chrome ore, soda ash, rice in bulk, and high grades of wood pulp. Generally, these high standards of cleanliness will only be met by vessels trading exclusively with such cargoes. It will rarely be required in the tramp trades.
@@ChiefMAKOi Thanks for answering that I was curious as well.
Why aren’t the hold floors built with a slight incline towards the sides or the middle to facilitate hosing and cleaning down ?
@@moltderenou no need, they can make the ship lean on a side through ballasting/deballasting. Completely empty bulk carriers are normally back-heavy anyway, which is why the bilge wells are usually located at the aft side of the cargo holds.
@@pizhhhout Understood, but that would affect all the holds at the same time, not individual ones. A slope with a channel would surely hasten the job.
Done a few shovel cleans in Australia, Miss the job as a stevedore, Met some great shipcrew members from all around the world! Love the work Chief! - magnitide made it a long shift, being such a heavy ore
The job requirements for deck crew must include "weight proportional to height", no former football linemen are going to squeeze into those bilge openings!
How often do the holds get painted? Is that something only done during ship maintenance periods rather during operations?
Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE 🚢❤️😷
Nice Chief, another info of wisdom. Thank you for sharing! I know person with idea want to watch dis. Keep safe
As a past firefighter, it is not recommended to straddle the hose between your legs. Could cause injury due to a hose Bursting open.
This video just made me realise that we are living in such a complex interconnected world. And yet, countries have vast militaries and keep grandstanding to provoke war. All these hardworking people deserve the assurance that war never comes to society.
There is no assurance of anything in creation. You can do everything right and still fail, that's life.
Why is the helipad blurred?
Was about to ask the same thing.
Some people have no clue how they get their food, and product's in a store. The huge job of farming, and growing it, and the gamble you take on the weather. Some guy's lose big, even with crop insurance. You also have crops that are shipped in or out, and the work in transporting by truck, train, and cargo ship's, there are many, many steps involved to get the product to food manufacturer's, and finally to the store. Thanks for showing this, i find it very interesting, as well as the hard work these guy's do. God bless.
What's the port of LA (Parking Lot) look like at this point in time? Still loaded to the gills with ships?
From the news, only a few dozen are lined up in the anchorage area. That's mostly because they sent all the other ships out to drift while waiting for their turn.
@@ChiefMAKOi another way of putting politics before the people's needs. Thanks for the info.
word is many being sent to faster florida ports via panama instead of waiting
I have always had the highest respect towards those who work in the merchant marine. You keep the world moving.
Why you censored a helicopter landing station? WFT!?
If I had to guess , I would think Your Crew got the bonus as they looked willing to do the job and seemed happy. I have noticed in many of Your videos the Crew always seems content. God Bless You , and your Crew , stay safe out there.
Hey Chief. Grain, coal, metal ore etc... how are all these orders placed? Are they based on contracts, single orders or what? How does this work?
(can one order for a pizza delivery? 🍕🍕😂😂 )
Thank you chief, I was going to ask about the wash residue, thanks for explaining just goes to show, cleanliness really next to Godless.
Thanks for the film.
Please tell me why you blur out the helicopter landing pad.
Company policy.
words on helipad
Hi Chief MAKOI, I work for a company in England that supplies and maintains the machinery used to clear the cargo holds ie: front end loaders, tele handlers, and skid steer machines and have done so for many years I used to drive the machines years ago and always found it a challenge to clear as much cargo with the machine to reduce hand cleaning, chrome ore and pig iron were amongst the worst as of there structure, rutile sand and ilmenite were pretty dusty and very heavy and petroleum coke could be very steamy and disorienting, I have a couple of pictures of a vessel at IBT at Immingham in the Humber estuary with a tele handler with a small concrete breaker as an attachment that has an oak block which is used against the inside of the hold to vibrate the walls and bulk heads to shake loose the materials that get trapped in the ribs and on stair landings etc, they receive various iron ores, coal and coke as raw materials for the steelworks at Scunthorpe a few miles away, being in the hold you can see the actul size for yourself so hats off to you and your crew for a fantastic job well done.
Hi chief Love from India
You know Chief , you are blessed to have a hard working Pinoy KRU!!💪💪💪💪💪👍👍
Coal in your cereal?
No. Not on the Chief's watch.
Great entertainment Chief MAKOi, a lot of hard work there that not many people see.
When your ship sails empty from one location to other port for cargo loading who pays for the fuel?
Owner/Disponent owner.
@@ChiefMAKOi cargo owner you mean
@@trucker.....1727 no. Ship owner.
@@ChiefMAKOi can you make vedio on payment structure for cargo ....
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Nice videos! I"m your new subscriber!
@@Topgm2024 thanks🙏🤝
Thanks for visiting this topic I've wondered for years about this topic I greatly appreciate the Chanel keep up the good work 👍
I've read accounts of ships which were fired with coal (back in the day) and coaling must have been a nightmare. Then we've seen stokers shoveling the coal into the furnaces as well. I imagine there was a great sigh of relief when ships switched from coal to oil, but that of course brought challenges as well. Thanks Chief for this video. I was wondering how they cleaned up after coal was carried. Always enjoy your videos!!! Thank you!!!