Hi Alex, While ClearPath motors are compatible with several operating environments, MSP software is not portable to Linux. MSP was designed for initial motor set-up and auto-tuning and not for the application itself. Because MSP isn't intended to be application software, Teknic hasn't built different versions for Linux, MacOS, etc. So for initial set up and tuning, you'll need a Windows device. Erik M. Teknic Servo Systems Engineer
A question. IPC5 power supply can run 2 motors. Mine will either be your CPM-SDSK-3421-RLN QTY 2. and your CPM-SDSK-3432-RLN QTY 1. How many motors can the IPC3 run? I may get your CPM-SDHP-3421-ELN Qty 2 for X and Y Axis, and CPM-SDHP-3432S-ELN QTY 1 for Z Axis. For either the SDHP or the SDSK Qty 3 would I need two IPC5 supplies or could I use an IPC3 for the Z axis motors?
Hi James, Although the IPC-5 power supply comes standard with two Sabre power connectors, this supply can generally drive 2-6 motors depending on your application. We’ve seen many CNC applications run 3-4 axes off of one supply but you would have to test your specific application. And you certainly can use an IPC-5 for X & Y and an IPC-3 for Z - you just can’t (and shouldn’t) tie the two power supplies together. For your 3-axis machine, I’d test a single IPC-5 supply (I’m pretty confident this would work well). Note that you would need to use a terminal block, bus bar, or our POWER4-STRIP to route power to 3 or more motors. For more information: teknic.com/clearpath-accessories-guide/accessories-guide-sd-dc/#power-hub. If you have any further questions, please feel contact Teknic at 585-784-7454 or submit a contact request at teknic.com/contact/. Thanks, Abe A. - Teknic Applications Engineer
@@TeknicInc You have your line drawing showing cables where the part number should also be in brackets. Then say bottom left all the part numbers in a list with tick box beside and ticked. Beneath one price. So we can literally buy the lot in one click. Rather than make notes through the video of part numbers.
@@TeknicInc Also I noticed there are a few power hubs. Power 4 strip, Power 4 Hub s with logic power backup, and Power hub acts as logic power backup. I presume the best to get is the most expensive being the Power Hub. Can you double confirm this. As I am aiming for 5 axis this would mean I would need two of these I presume. I do see you have 5 axis Power 4 strip. Presume as not mentioning power backup it doesn't have that?
Hi @@jamesbarratt593 There are two power distribution options for each motor sealing type: For SD-Series ClearPath IP53 (Molex Connectors): •The accessories guide is available at: teknic.com/clearpath-accessories-guide/accessories-guide-sd-dc/#overview •The POWER-STRIP breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-53 rated ClearPath motors (with Molex connectors) - there’s no logic power backup with this breakout board. This board can distribute power to up to 5 ClearPath motors. •The POWER4-HUB breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-53 rated ClearPath motors (with Molex connectors) and also provides for logic power backup. This board can distribute power to up to 4 ClearPath motors. For SD-Series ClearPath IP67/IP66K (M12 Connectors): •The accessories guide is available at: teknic.com/clearpath-accessories-guide/accessories-guide-sd-dc-sealed/#overview •The POWER-STRIP-S breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-67/66K rated ClearPath motors (with M12 connectors) - there’s no logic power backup with this breakout board. This board can distribute power to up to 4 ClearPath motors. •The POWER4-HUB-S breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-67/66K rated ClearPath motors (with M12 connectors) and also provides for logic power backup. This board can distribute power to up to 4 ClearPath motors. If your machine has more than 4 motors (or more than 5 motors if you are going to use the POWER4-STRIP), you would need to order an additional breakout board. (As long as one power supply is sufficient to power all 5 axes). If you have any further questions, please feel contact Teknic at 585-784-7454 or submit a contact request at teknic.com/contact/. Thanks Abe A. - Teknic Applications Engineer
Hi@@jamesbarratt593, Thanks for the feedback. We always look for ways to improve the online ordering process and experience. I will forward your suggestion to our web development team. I can’t say if and when this would be implemented, but we do review these requests and investigate the feasibility of new features. If you have any further questions, please feel contact Teknic at 585-784-7454 or submit a contact request at teknic.com/contact/. Thanks, Abe A. - Teknic Applications Engineer
Hi Bartek, Unfortunately, the IPC-3 and IPC-5 supplies do not have load sharing capabilities, so they can not be daisy chained together. If you have a multi-axis system that requires more power than one IPC supply can provide, you can use multiple IPC supplies to power different axes separately. In other words, you can power 2-4 axes from one IPC supply and use another supply to power another 2-4 axes (the amount of motors you can power from one IPC unit will depend on application factors). Another thing you can try is adding a standard box fan to the IPC-5 supply to increase the power output from 350 Watts to 500 Watts of power. I hope this information is helpful. Please feel free to contact support@teknic.com with any additional questions. -Aaron B.
Hi Nerdly, Thanks for your interest in Teknic's servo motion control products. We are happy to help you choose the right motor for your project but more info is needed to provide you with a full motor part number. Rather than exchanging the details in a public forum, it'll be more efficient to contact Teknic directly for assistance. Please visit Teknic’s website and submit a contact request so we can discuss your application in more detail. Here is a link for your convenience: www.teknic.com/contact/ One of our applications engineers will reach out to you directly to discuss your inquiry and motor needs. Best regards, Mark D.
Most CAM packages are designed to produce specific tool paths for a machine tool (commonly called g-codes). These g-codes need to be further converted to the specific motion profiles for each individual axis within your machine (i.e., different profiles for the X, Y, and Z axes on a 3-axis wood router). Another software package called a CNC controller handles this conversion by producing the digital step/direction signals that the ClearPath-SD motors will follow. There are a wide range of CNC controllers capable of accomplishing this (e.g. MACH3, MACH4, WinCNC, Acorn, MASSO, among others) but you would need to verify that your particular CAM package is compatible with their CNC controller. Hope this helps, best of luck with your project! -Abe A
Thanks for the suggestion. PeterSripol’s channel sure looks inventive and is quite entertaining. Although the ClearPath motors were designed for OEM applications, I agree, he probably would have a lot of fun integrating them into some of his projects! Please check back here again. We’ll be creating more videos in the near future. Thanks for watching! -AbeA"
Looking to convert a precision Matthews 940m mill to cnc and want to go with the clearpath servo motors. The 940m is a large mill similar sized but a little bigger than the rf45 clones. I will be running 20mm ballscrews for X-Y and 25mm for Z. What nema 34 servos do you recommend for the X-Y? And also the Z? The 940m has a large head so most run stronger motors on the Z. And will one IPC 5 power supply power all 3 servo's? I am looking at a Masso as my controller. There is not a lot of conversion info out there on the pm940m so I am just trying to piece it together. Servos seem like the obvious choice for speed and accuracy. Closed loop steppers seem to be a good choice but the price difference isn't great enough to not go with the Clearpath servos.
Hi halfstep67, Thanks for watching our video and for your inquiry. We're happy to help. You have provided some good mechanical information to get us started, but more details are needed. Selecting the optimal servo also depends on your motion goals (acceleration, max velocity, desired resolution, etc.) and your budget. Rather than exchanging many details in a public forum, it'll be more efficient to contact Teknic directly for assistance. Please visit Teknic’s website and submit a contact request so we can discuss your application in more detail. Here is a link for your convenience: www.teknic.com/contact/ An applications engineer will contact you directly to help narrow down your selection and make suggestions based on your specific circumstances. Good luck with your mill! Erik M.
Hi John, Let me help clarify what is being shown in the video at 8:30 (I'm not 100% sure what you're asking but hopefully this will answer your question): The circuit breaker is placed next to the stage to demonstrate how the "Position Recovery" feature works when main bus power is turned off. When connected to a Power Hub and bus power is removed, the servo can still track the position of the motor and the incoming command. Then, when bus power is restored, ClearPath will move to the correct current position. Aaron B. - Teknic Servo Systems Engineer
Aaron, I'm not asking anything like that, I just mean that CBI is a South African manufacturer, making circuit breakers in Lesotho, for the local market. I have no idea how it got all the way across the ocean and into your video. Does it even comply with your electrical code?
Hi John, Thanks for the clarification. CBI Circuit Breakers meet CE and IEC / EN 60947-2 requirements, which are requirements for meeting electrical code for many industrial applications. (CBI appears to have worldwide distribution, where we happened to have some in our lab for demo purposes.) -Aaron B. - Teknic Servo Systems Engineer
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Amazing videos, and I love your upfront (and within reach for the hobbyist) pricing.
Hi Alex,
While ClearPath motors are compatible with several operating environments, MSP software is not portable to Linux. MSP was designed for initial motor set-up and auto-tuning and not for the application itself. Because MSP isn't intended to be application software, Teknic hasn't built different versions for Linux, MacOS, etc. So for initial set up and tuning, you'll need a Windows device.
Erik M. Teknic Servo Systems Engineer
A question. IPC5 power supply can run 2 motors. Mine will either be your CPM-SDSK-3421-RLN QTY 2. and your CPM-SDSK-3432-RLN QTY 1. How many motors can the IPC3 run?
I may get your CPM-SDHP-3421-ELN Qty 2 for X and Y Axis, and CPM-SDHP-3432S-ELN QTY 1 for Z Axis. For either the SDHP or the SDSK Qty 3 would I need two IPC5 supplies or could I use an IPC3 for the Z axis motors?
Hi James,
Although the IPC-5 power supply comes standard with two Sabre power connectors, this supply can generally drive 2-6 motors depending on your application. We’ve seen many CNC applications run 3-4 axes off of one supply but you would have to test your specific application. And you certainly can use an IPC-5 for X & Y and an IPC-3 for Z - you just can’t (and shouldn’t) tie the two power supplies together.
For your 3-axis machine, I’d test a single IPC-5 supply (I’m pretty confident this would work well). Note that you would need to use a terminal block, bus bar, or our POWER4-STRIP to route power to 3 or more motors. For more information: teknic.com/clearpath-accessories-guide/accessories-guide-sd-dc/#power-hub.
If you have any further questions, please feel contact Teknic at 585-784-7454 or submit a contact request at teknic.com/contact/.
Thanks,
Abe A. - Teknic Applications Engineer
@@TeknicInc You have your line drawing showing cables where the part number should also be in brackets. Then say bottom left all the part numbers in a list with tick box beside and ticked. Beneath one price. So we can literally buy the lot in one click. Rather than make notes through the video of part numbers.
@@TeknicInc Also I noticed there are a few power hubs. Power 4 strip, Power 4 Hub s with logic power backup, and Power hub acts as logic power backup. I presume the best to get is the most expensive being the Power Hub. Can you double confirm this.
As I am aiming for 5 axis this would mean I would need two of these I presume. I do see you have 5 axis Power 4 strip. Presume as not mentioning power backup it doesn't have that?
Hi @@jamesbarratt593
There are two power distribution options for each motor sealing type:
For SD-Series ClearPath IP53 (Molex Connectors):
•The accessories guide is available at: teknic.com/clearpath-accessories-guide/accessories-guide-sd-dc/#overview
•The POWER-STRIP breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-53 rated ClearPath motors (with Molex connectors) - there’s no logic power backup with this breakout board. This board can distribute power to up to 5 ClearPath motors.
•The POWER4-HUB breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-53 rated ClearPath motors (with Molex connectors) and also provides for logic power backup. This board can distribute power to up to 4 ClearPath motors.
For SD-Series ClearPath IP67/IP66K (M12 Connectors):
•The accessories guide is available at: teknic.com/clearpath-accessories-guide/accessories-guide-sd-dc-sealed/#overview
•The POWER-STRIP-S breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-67/66K rated ClearPath motors (with M12 connectors) - there’s no logic power backup with this breakout board. This board can distribute power to up to 4 ClearPath motors.
•The POWER4-HUB-S breakout board is designed to route 75 Vdc power from the IPC-5/3 power supply to the IP-67/66K rated ClearPath motors (with M12 connectors) and also provides for logic power backup. This board can distribute power to up to 4 ClearPath motors.
If your machine has more than 4 motors (or more than 5 motors if you are going to use the POWER4-STRIP), you would need to order an additional breakout board. (As long as one power supply is sufficient to power all 5 axes).
If you have any further questions, please feel contact Teknic at 585-784-7454 or submit a contact request at teknic.com/contact/. Thanks
Abe A. - Teknic Applications Engineer
Hi@@jamesbarratt593,
Thanks for the feedback. We always look for ways to improve the online ordering process and experience. I will forward your suggestion to our web development team. I can’t say if and when this would be implemented, but we do review these requests and investigate the feasibility of new features.
If you have any further questions, please feel contact Teknic at 585-784-7454 or submit a contact request at teknic.com/contact/.
Thanks,
Abe A. - Teknic Applications Engineer
Is it possible to daisy chain Teknic’s IPC power supplays for more power?
Hi Bartek,
Unfortunately, the IPC-3 and IPC-5 supplies do not have load sharing capabilities, so they can not be daisy chained together.
If you have a multi-axis system that requires more power than one IPC supply can provide, you can use multiple IPC supplies to power different axes separately. In other words, you can power 2-4 axes from one IPC supply and use another supply to power another 2-4 axes (the amount of motors you can power from one IPC unit will depend on application factors).
Another thing you can try is adding a standard box fan to the IPC-5 supply to increase the power output from 350 Watts to 500 Watts of power.
I hope this information is helpful. Please feel free to contact support@teknic.com with any additional questions.
-Aaron B.
I’m thinking about using these for a g0704 conversion. Which model will have the fastest rapid for Nema 23 Xy and Nema 34 for the Z
Hi Nerdly,
Thanks for your interest in Teknic's servo motion control products.
We are happy to help you choose the right motor for your project but more info is needed to provide you with a full motor part number.
Rather than exchanging the details in a public forum, it'll be more efficient to contact Teknic directly for assistance. Please visit Teknic’s website and submit a contact request so we can discuss your application in more detail. Here is a link for your convenience:
www.teknic.com/contact/
One of our applications engineers will reach out to you directly to discuss your inquiry and motor needs.
Best regards,
Mark D.
@@TeknicInc Thanks, i'll submit the request later this afternoon!
Thanks, Jason
Can the "MSP" software be ported to Linux?
Is there a specific CAM software that will work with the clearpath system?
Most CAM packages are designed to produce specific tool paths for a machine tool (commonly called g-codes). These g-codes need to be further converted to the specific motion profiles for each individual axis within your machine (i.e., different profiles for the X, Y, and Z axes on a 3-axis wood router). Another software package called a CNC controller handles this conversion by producing the digital step/direction signals that the ClearPath-SD motors will follow. There are a wide range of CNC controllers capable of accomplishing this (e.g. MACH3, MACH4, WinCNC, Acorn, MASSO, among others) but you would need to verify that your particular CAM package is compatible with their CNC controller.
Hope this helps, best of luck with your project!
-Abe A
I’m sure peter stripol or another RUclipsr like him will love this stuff
Try suggesting it to him it will also give you a shout out
Thanks for the suggestion.
PeterSripol’s channel sure looks inventive and is quite entertaining. Although the ClearPath motors were designed for OEM applications, I agree, he probably would have a lot of fun integrating them into some of his projects!
Please check back here again. We’ll be creating more videos in the near future.
Thanks for watching!
-AbeA"
Looking to convert a precision Matthews 940m mill to cnc and want to go with the clearpath servo motors. The 940m is a large mill similar sized but a little bigger than the rf45 clones. I will be running 20mm ballscrews for X-Y and 25mm for Z. What nema 34 servos do you recommend for the X-Y? And also the Z? The 940m has a large head so most run stronger motors on the Z. And will one IPC 5 power supply power all 3 servo's? I am looking at a Masso as my controller. There is not a lot of conversion info out there on the pm940m so I am just trying to piece it together. Servos seem like the obvious choice for speed and accuracy. Closed loop steppers seem to be a good choice but the price difference isn't great enough to not go with the Clearpath servos.
Hi halfstep67,
Thanks for watching our video and for your inquiry. We're happy to help.
You have provided some good mechanical information to get us started, but more details are needed. Selecting the optimal servo also depends on your motion goals (acceleration, max velocity, desired resolution, etc.) and your budget.
Rather than exchanging many details in a public forum, it'll be more efficient to contact Teknic directly for assistance. Please visit Teknic’s website and submit a contact request so we can discuss your application in more detail. Here is a link for your convenience:
www.teknic.com/contact/
An applications engineer will contact you directly to help narrow down your selection and make suggestions based on your specific circumstances.
Good luck with your mill!
Erik M.
Nice Slider you have for the demo...where is the source for this?
Hi Bryster51,
The ball screw slide we demonstrate in the video is from Motion Solutions.
-Aaron B.
@@TeknicInc thank you!
8:30 I'm sorry, but WHAT?! That CBI circuit breaker is a awful long way from home...
Hi John,
Let me help clarify what is being shown in the video at 8:30 (I'm not 100% sure what you're asking but hopefully this will answer your question):
The circuit breaker is placed next to the stage to demonstrate how the "Position Recovery" feature works when main bus power is turned off. When connected to a Power Hub and bus power is removed, the servo can still track the position of the motor and the incoming command. Then, when bus power is restored, ClearPath will move to the correct current position.
Aaron B. - Teknic Servo Systems Engineer
Aaron, I'm not asking anything like that, I just mean that CBI is a South African manufacturer, making circuit breakers in Lesotho, for the local market. I have no idea how it got all the way across the ocean and into your video. Does it even comply with your electrical code?
Hi John,
Thanks for the clarification. CBI Circuit Breakers meet CE and IEC / EN 60947-2 requirements, which are requirements for meeting electrical code for many industrial applications. (CBI appears to have worldwide distribution, where we happened to have some in our lab for demo purposes.)
-Aaron B. - Teknic Servo Systems Engineer