Myb he tried to say allegorically that "guy" who "invented" college was smart without that college approval lets call it that way. I see so much people that think you are stupid just because you didnt finish college for whatever reason. That is my view of that Hop line. He was just taking shots at education system. Not that hard to understand...well
"Fake deep" - Obvious views people share given from pretentious viewpoints that usually include virtue signaling from said target audience. But really, I can't word it any other way.
The only thing I’ll say about X, which is something I’ve contemplated myself is that I don’t think on 17 he was trying to be profound on every song. Orlando is awful on the fake depth. That’s terrible. BUT A song like Jocelyn Flores isn’t TRYING to be deep that’s a personal song. A lot of his music seems to be more personal than trying to be profound.
rG Jamm he didn’t say Orlando was terrible it was terrible that he titled the song Orlando just to do it not the song itself was bad. His music is not bad but he does indeed have “fake deep” shit. I think he was real for the most part especially early on but riot and Orlando especially are a bit cringy and it’s low hanging fruit. Same reason it was fucked up country singers made 9/11 songs a month after it happened and toured it for millions of dollars
@@marciaosullivan3200 It was more about black on white crime though. Basically one of the rare ones that actually do say "Racism towards white people is still racism."
In my opinion, when an artist tries to be something more than they are(Hopsin), then they come off as corny and fake. If they present themselves as only human(Kdot) then they come off as real. There is bad songwriting that also makes something corny and fake.
MultiMetalmilitia666 you got your facts wrong btw, he was never at harvard. He decided to turn down Harvard to save the rap game. Poor fella never got a chance to attend 😕
I would define fake deep as those idiotic images that are like "Wow, have you noticed that people use their phones!!!!" or whatever Prince EA puts out. Like "Facebook is anti-social media man" It smacks of being pretentious, dismissive, and being hyperbolic or just plain wrong.
In response to your final statement: the larger issue with "fake deep," to me isn't that it falls short intellectually, but rather that it's being used to manipulate. Usually for selfish reasons - a speaker/artist/whomever wants to appear enlightened, but sometimes also so they can skirt responsibility or accountability. The latter is when it can become kind of dangerous.
It was a day like any other. Anthony Fantano, the Internet’s busiest music nerd, was hard at work listening to music that he was to review. It was sunny, and slightly humid, so he had left his shirt off for the day. His girlfriend was dealing with an emergency at work. But all of a sudden, Anthony heard a knock at his door. His muscles rippled as he got up from his desk chair. He slowly walked to the door… He saw a dark silhouette through the window. “I wonder who that could be…?” Anthony wondered. He slowly opened the door. And, to his great surprise, his biggest idol was standing before him… MC Ride. Or as his friends call him, Stefan. MC Ride peeked in the doorway, and said, “H-hey… um I don’t know if you know me… b-but I’m in a band and our van broke down about a half mile back… I w-was hoping you had some tools laying around…” Now, although Anthony had always loved Death Grips and their music, he tried to play it cool. After all, he kind of had a crush on Stefan ever since he heard his voice on Beware. Luckily, Anthony had a big shed in his back yard full of his dad’s old mechanic tools. Anthony smiled, and replied, “Sure… I recognize you. What band again? Deaf grapes or something?” “N-no… Death Grips…” answered MC Ride. Anthony laughed. “ha-ha, that’s right! just come on in! I could definitely give you a tool to use…” He led MC Ride to his back yard. On the way, He could feel Ride’s gaze on him. He wondered if he liked what he saw. He opened the door to the shed, and Ride quickly shuffled in to grab what he needed. “He’s even cuter in real life…” Thought Anthony. On the way back, Anthony hastily offered Ride a beer. “Hey man, want to have a beer? You seem like a cool dude.” “Well… Zach and Andy are waiting for me… but I guess a quick beer wouldn’t hurt I guess.” Mumbled Ride. At first, they sat awkwardly in Fantano’s living room. But then they started talking about Death Grips and other music. They were soon off on a riveting conversation. After a while, Anthony said; “hey… I haven’t really been honest with you Stefan… Can I call you that? To tell the truth, I know a lot about Death Grips. I’m pretty much your biggest fan.” “Ha-ha… Yes I know… and I have to confess something too. I watch almost all of your video reviews. Y-you could say that I’m your biggest fan.” Anthony then did something very risky. He laid his hand on Stefan’s leg, right above the knee. Their eyes met, and the next thing Anthony knew, their lips were locked and they were lying on the couch together. “Can Andy and Zach wait?” asked Anthony. Ride’s response was to continue kissing him. They made out like this for a few minutes, and then Ride started slowly moving down to Anthony’s private area, kissing his beautiful chest on the way down. “Please” whispered Anthony. MC Ride slowly unbuttoned Anthony’s black shorts. Anthony’s rock hard penis sprang up, and MC Ride started sucking it off. It was the best blowjob of Anthony’s life. Far better than any blowjob his girlfriend had ever given him. The way Stefan’s tongue moved… it was amazing. “Ohhhh Stefan… I think I want you to do the nasty in my taxi!” yelled Anthony. “I AM THE BEAST YOU WORSHIP” replied MC Ride as he took Anthony’s cock out of his mouth. Anthony bent over on the couch, and got on his knees. Ride undid his all-black jeans, and revealed his lengthy penis. He started to put his throbbing penis into Anthony’s butt, when all of a sudden, “IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES YUUHHHH!!!!!” “Oh my God!!” screamed Anthony. “You get-get-get-get got-got-got-got it in!” MC Ride wasn’t a tender lover. He pumped and pumped until finally, in euphoria, he came inside of Anthony’s butt. He withdrew, exhausted, and laid down next to Anthony, who had reached orgasm as well. “H-how was it?” Asked Stefan. “you’re good…” Whispered Anthony. Whispered Anthony. “I liked your lovemaking. I would give you a strong six, light seven.”
KRS-One, Chuck D, Lord Jamar, Immortal Technique, Dead Prez, Killer Mike, David Banner, and Lupe Fiasco are the only rappers I can take seriously when discussing social and political norms.
HipHopR&BLover Jon He is racist, and really closed minded about a lot of topics, he is honest about it though I'll give him that, but doesn't change the fact lord jamar has not realized we're not in the 90's anymore.
I think Lemonade is a pretty good example of "fake deep," or at least the video direction for that project. The aesthetics are almost an exact rip-off of a 1960s art film that it does not credit, and it just seems like it uses lots of pan-African imagery for the same reason Christian stuff shows up in anime: because someone thought the symbolism was "so deep" and cool looking.
I think X's music is deep on a philosophical and conceptual level if you're in grade school or high school, so that is to say, not very deep. As a matter of sophistry, it is pretty "deep". Many of his songs are incredibly personal and vulnerable, so I can appreciate the depth of his music in that regard. I'm certainly not listening to X to gain a deeper understanding of politics, history, or self-development, I listen to it to enjoy his experience and point of view-- his music is a case study of himself and his circumstances. I do not think he's had the development of character, knowledge, or practice to be able to write something politically or conceptually deep, I think at the time he was simply incapable of it-- for example he never really came to terms with his actions, the best we got were vague gestures of sagacity, humility, and generosity, which could not be said to be performed or provided without some intention of self-preservation. No amount of charity or number of airy platitudes had ever truly absolved him of his hideous behaviors and actions; he never faced trial and had to face the serious consequences of his actions, because the justice system was either incredibly lenient due to him being a minor as well as growing celebrity status, and because he had died too early to proceed with his trial. At most he's only ever touched base with his demons.
Completely disagree with this one. First, if 'deep' is knowledge that spurs epiphanies and helps somebody grow and develop as a person, what is considered 'deep' is determined by how developed a person is. You might have a far greater understanding of the world than somebody else, but if you're comparing yourself to a bunch of kids that haven't had as much exposure to the world of course you'd see it as monotonous. By the time fan bases you're criticizing get on the level you're at right now, you'll be even more developed and they'll still seem redundant. Everybody's not on the same level at the same time, but by discrediting the artists that help them get to a higher level of understanding you'll make artists less incentivised to even try.
What a bunch of convoluted crap. So just because some people lack character/intelligence that automatically makes shallow art deep? No, absolute garbage.
I don't really care if you cry On the real, you shoulda never lied Shoulda saw the way she looked me in my eyes She said: "Baby, I am not afraid to die." Push me to the edge All my friends are dead Push me to the edge All my friends are dead Push me to the edge All my friends are dead
Again, mad props for wearing another Death shirt (Symbolic album? I can't tell from here) If you're a fan of metal, I highly recommend listening to Death. Start with Scream Bloody Gore and keep going! My favorite album is Spiritual Healing. Guitar work is phenomenal. R.I.P. Chuck...
I think there is an important distinction between being deep and being meaningful. Ik it sounds contradictory but when I think deep I think of voting beyond normal statements and assumptions made by society on a topic, where as meaningful is more of talking about something which you believe as important rather but not necessarily giving groundbreaking insight
"Fake deep" is just the actual definition of "pretentious," but people who are themselves pretentious have all but turned that word into a cudgel against anything with a smidgen of conceptual ambition or polysemy.
6:11 Nailed it there Anthony, too many people who dislike this current generation of artists (everything they put out) lack the brain capability to simply do that. Let alone deep rap.
Fake deep is a phrase used by pretentious college students who think they are the epitome of intelligence because they parrot Neitzche's thoughts when ever somebody who is supposed to be stupid says something thoughtful. Not to say there aren't artists who say stupid shit when they are trying to be deep, Hopsin is a great example at that, but for the most part this is a case of elitist arrogance. The same type of people that claim they are against racism, classism and bigotry but treat anybody who comes from a different culture with a lesser education like they are less than human.
so i watched this video of how to pronounce xxxtentacion and i made a joke of "its pronounced xxxtrash" and now i have this 14 yo that keeps annoying me saying he super deep and that he can relate so much to his music...
I think the idea of fake deep ultimately boils down to a lack of original analysis. In the example of the new XXX video, he provides imagery and lyrics that would not require his own independent thought on the matter to make. “Real” depth comes from analysing the subject and presenting the thoughts and feelings you have on the subject in a 3D manner. That is to say that I don’t believe that the imagery and (in particular) the lyricism should get 100% of the message across the first time you watch it. True depth for me requires multiple viewings/readings for further understanding and that ultimately still leaves a level of ambiguity remaining. It could be thought of as a physical depth. - Surface level statements - analysis - subtle analysis (that perhaps makes reference to other sections/ideas raised) - ambiguous analysis (open to interpretation)
Most Dragonforce songs have more depth than most hip songs nowadays. And tbh the bar has lowered an absolute fuck ton. All you have to do is basically say I'm depressed and I wanna die or go on about drugs in a roundabout way and 15 year olds and mid 20's hipsters will lap it up and go on about how deep it is.
I considered AAB to be fake deep as he was just repeating a similar message through each track without any sense of creativity. Literally hammered it into my skull
*Starter pack* of current hip hop that is actually "deep"... Who would you add? - Run the Jewels - Open Mike Eagle - The Roots - Joey Bada$$ - Kendrick - Vince Staples - Rapsody - Shad Honorary mentions: - Lupe - Mick Jenkins - Denzel Curry - Underachievers - Cole - Jay Z - Common - ATCQ
So can we get a list of artists who are actually "deep" and which of their works provoke the most thought and why it is deeper than XXX, Hopsin and J Cole?
Fake Deep is definitely a thing but it all comes with the language and the appearance and the cadence. The reason why xxx and Hopsin are called fake deep is because of those things. xxx looks like an emo kid and the way he talks makes him sound like that he's "trying so hard to be intellectual".. when he's just hitting the surface level. And with Hopsin, he has those contacts.. still! And you know because he wanna look like an outsider and it would complete his message with the music. The "actual deep" guys, like Kendrick Lamar, Danny Brown, even Drake sometimes, go deep in a way that comes from a sincere place. With their language and how they say it, you can actually hear some pain coming out. It's all about execution and what you choose to say/how to say it.
Primarily the people who think X is deep are high school kids and young adults. When you're in high school anything edgy, dark, and/or violent is deep and avant-garde to you, cause you're filled with angst and anger and confusion about life. I think once you hit your 20s or figure out what and who you are that edginess leaves you for the most part.
Hopsin is pretty much the definition of "fake deep". I mean, what the fuck did he mean with this garbage? "Heavy thin air, sahara mascara smeared, end of an era Tracks on Hera's peacock thighs, china white skies, ivory of my leper eyes"
Luis Eduardo Veloz X isn't fake deep and doesn't try to be. The only example of him being fake deep is the Look at me video. He's not trying to make his music profound, he's trying to make it personal.
As much as I love Hip-hop music even some of the 'conscious rappers' out there never go beyond surface level. They point out something obvious like 'police brutality exists in America, police target minorities' and everyone thinks they're woke or fresh for pointing that out. Conscious hip-hop can be great but people love to hype it up way too much.
Real niggas know reality is the tip of an iceberg of irrationality that we've managed to drag ourselves up onto for a few panting moments before we slip back into the sea of the unreal.
How deep something is depends on how you interpret it. I could say I Am The Walrus is fake deep while another person could say "no, dude, that shit is deep af, bro". The truth is if a song is metaphorical it is open to interpretation, which means how deep it is depends on what meaning you give it. If a song isn't metaphorical it is just a story. Stories are fact. Fact is not deep. However, a story could be an analogy or contain metaphors, giving it depth. While it's true that some songs pretend to make very transcendental statements, I would never use the term "fake deep". A lyric can hit you in the right place depending on context and what you've experienced. The depth is given by the artist's background and what he was trying to convey in that moment. If you say "fake deep" you are just trying to make yourself appear deeper by disregarding someone's lyrics. That being said, I don't like Hopsin.
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Fakethony Deepthano
No love fake deep
Deepthony Faketano
Deepthony Throatano
*Deeptano
did the guy who invented anthony, go to fantano?
Well the guy who invented Anthony is already Fantano so...
The Nelson Boys 2 Anton Fantacano is a russian spy
**Stay woke**
The Nelson Boys 2 WTF I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST A TALKING MELON
OK THEN
Best comment 😂😂
"Did the guy who invented college go to college?" -Hopsin . That's the definition of fake deep and Hopsin's career
MrGNugget Well did he?
Such a retarded statement, as if it were a singular person, it probably a group of well educated Greeks.
"Did the person that invented porn watch porn"
first college ever was in Timbuktu
Myb he tried to say allegorically that "guy" who "invented" college was smart without that college approval lets call it that way. I see so much people that think you are stupid just because you didnt finish college for whatever reason. That is my view of that Hop line. He was just taking shots at education system. Not that hard to understand...well
Fake depression is also a thing apparently..
Benileo Quijano that comment is accurate as fuck
Benileo Quijano yup, also there is a difference between feeling depressed and clinically depressed
14 year olds just think they clinical depressed, when they are in fact, just going through puberty
Yes its called fetishizing depression
HDHyperDrive this shit right here.
"Fake deep" - Obvious views people share given from pretentious viewpoints that usually include virtue signaling from said target audience.
But really, I can't word it any other way.
WalkingGirlKoi Accurate af
Superficially deep.
WalkingGirlKoi W
WalkingGirlKoi digibro is fake deep
Doofy digibro is real deep into a 10 year old girl
I'm a simple man. I see Hopsin, i keep the pots and pans in the kitchen.
Shaba Dadoo i have a good feeling allot of people in this comment section have absolutely no clue what that means
I personally do not understand this.
Explain?
Has a song called pots and pans in the kitchen
VKGaming - Киригин Видео Игры it's a song by Hopsin
The only thing I’ll say about X, which is something I’ve contemplated myself is that I don’t think on 17 he was trying to be profound on every song. Orlando is awful on the fake depth. That’s terrible.
BUT
A song like Jocelyn Flores isn’t TRYING to be deep that’s a personal song.
A lot of his music seems to be more personal than trying to be profound.
Miles Todd i respect this, but not one song on that album was terrible.
100% agree. Dont see how people get this twisted.
rG Jamm he didn’t say Orlando was terrible it was terrible that he titled the song Orlando just to do it not the song itself was bad. His music is not bad but he does indeed have “fake deep” shit. I think he was real for the most part especially early on but riot and Orlando especially are a bit cringy and it’s low hanging fruit. Same reason it was fucked up country singers made 9/11 songs a month after it happened and toured it for millions of dollars
Riot is fake deep oh wow riots are bad and black on black crime bad wow never heard that before
@@marciaosullivan3200
It was more about black on white crime though.
Basically one of the rare ones that actually do say "Racism towards white people is still racism."
In my opinion, when an artist tries to be something more than they are(Hopsin), then they come off as corny and fake. If they present themselves as only human(Kdot) then they come off as real. There is bad songwriting that also makes something corny and fake.
Nathan Shlapobersky when has he tried to be more than he is?
Sean Watts Moore He presents himself as this type of savior to rap, when he's really just a watered down version of Eminem.
I think he just needs to be more descriptive instead of saying something is bad.
myncraft1 Not necessarily. I think that does very much help songs, but he also should give new angles, which he doesn't.
Nathan Shlapobersky thank you for this beautiful explanation
"They fake weird and they fake emo"
-Lil Yachty
You might just be the first person to quote Lil Yachty
Cyber-Bully “if that’s your ho, why my dick got her mouth on it?” -Lil Yachty
Was he referring to him self ?
If you play the fake deep tracks backwards they tell us who lee Harvey Oswald worked for. Keep asking questions
Our Founding Liars you know too much
Our Founding Liars woke
Subbed for truth
Kid Yetii *Third Eye opens*
Research 7/11
What the hell is he talking about? Lil pump dropped out of Harvard. This guy is a genius.
MultiMetalmilitia666 Harvard high school in Florida
MultiMetalmilitia666 you got your facts wrong btw, he was never at harvard. He decided to turn down Harvard to save the rap game. Poor fella never got a chance to attend 😕
MultiMetalmilitia666 the school one goes to does not make them a genius.
Nice meme, dingus
We talking about jidenna
Deep as shit video melon.
Fake Deep
DROPTOP GOLF CART Soundcloud..
is that fucking ceasar zepelli????
TheAverageAfricanAmerican speedwagon ain't flat
There's a starman waiting in the sky Best routine commenter
GUYS PLEASE DONT FORGET THAT LOGIC IS HALF BLACK AND HALF WHITE!!!1!!!!
R Baker BECAUSE HIS MOM WAS WHITE AND HIS DAD WAS BLACK
R Baker :(
R Baker :(
This meme is deader than Fantano's meme channel.
Who?
Hopsin: from worst to worst
Hopsin is not even that bad
Sherk The Ogre That Finnesed Shreks Wife W
Pound syndrome is a classic
I'm the shit like I slithered in poo
that's some GOAT bars
Logics album is a classic example of fake depth
Toni Bauer I love logic but yes, that album was so cringe.
But hes bi-racial tho
He’s biracial
You only heard the white half.
I cant understand, how can a melon be THIS hot?!?!?!
Conta-fake
Gotta drill a hole in that melon
It's all the GMOs
But what he hopsin? 🤔
VersaceCanOpener 🤔🤔
The recycle bin
what?
I would define fake deep as those idiotic images that are like "Wow, have you noticed that people use their phones!!!!" or whatever Prince EA puts out. Like "Facebook is anti-social media man" It smacks of being pretentious, dismissive, and being hyperbolic or just plain wrong.
ew275x Thank you for summing it up better than I could. It's pointing out stuff a bunch of people say while trying to come off as intellectual.
I hate prince ea
ew275x I was like "who the fuck is prince ea???" Lol. But now that I remember, yeah that nigga is fake deep
I'm so woke rn dude we aren't controlling our phones, THEY are controlling US !!!
Prince EA IS definitely FAKE DEEP
Pewdiepie said the n-word
Lil B's 1000 Year Old Vans That's
F A K E
D E E P
NIGERIAN
Lil B's 1000 Year Old Vans pewdiepie? These SoundCloud rappers names are getting outrageous
Lil B's 1000 Year Old Vans Anthony hates hip hop so he won't review it :(
He said never
N E V E R
S A Y
N E V E R
xxxtentacion: NOT DEEP
daaavid The new XXXTentacion album? It's not deep.
The FAN Haden and Seth and his old music only deep song is Garret's revenge
He doesn't try to be deep. That's a view that's projected on to him.
In response to your final statement: the larger issue with "fake deep," to me isn't that it falls short intellectually, but rather that it's being used to manipulate. Usually for selfish reasons - a speaker/artist/whomever wants to appear enlightened, but sometimes also so they can skirt responsibility or accountability. The latter is when it can become kind of dangerous.
Deep: Radiohead
Not deep: Muse
Boom, I boiled it down. Made a reduction sauce out of deepness.
Monk Killedababy damn, I agree
Deep: Paul Thomas Anderson
Not deep: Paul W.S. Anderson
Kevin Beteta My dad's name is Paul Anderson
Monk Killedababy I know this is a old comment, but I don’t think Muse tries to be deep.
"I let you feel like you the shit but boy you can't outfart me" -J. Cole
W
Did you just W yourself?
Bic Lopez Wtf I don't remember typing this
I search NF Needle Drop and this was one of the results
Did the man who invented Melons, become a melon?
It was a day like any other. Anthony Fantano, the Internet’s busiest music nerd, was hard at work listening to music that he was to review. It was sunny, and slightly humid, so he had left his shirt off for the day. His girlfriend was dealing with an emergency at work.
But all of a sudden, Anthony heard a knock at his door. His muscles rippled as he got up from his desk chair. He slowly walked to the door… He saw a dark silhouette through the window.
“I wonder who that could be…?” Anthony wondered.
He slowly opened the door. And, to his great surprise, his biggest idol was standing before him… MC Ride. Or as his friends call him, Stefan. MC Ride peeked in the doorway, and said,
“H-hey… um I don’t know if you know me… b-but I’m in a band and our van broke down about a half mile back… I w-was hoping you had some tools laying around…”
Now, although Anthony had always loved Death Grips and their music, he tried to play it cool. After all, he kind of had a crush on Stefan ever since he heard his voice on Beware. Luckily, Anthony had a big shed in his back yard full of his dad’s old mechanic tools.
Anthony smiled, and replied, “Sure… I recognize you. What band again? Deaf grapes or something?”
“N-no… Death Grips…” answered MC Ride.
Anthony laughed. “ha-ha, that’s right! just come on in! I could definitely give you a tool to use…”
He led MC Ride to his back yard. On the way, He could feel Ride’s gaze on him. He wondered if he liked what he saw. He opened the door to the shed, and Ride quickly shuffled in to grab what he needed.
“He’s even cuter in real life…” Thought Anthony.
On the way back, Anthony hastily offered Ride a beer.
“Hey man, want to have a beer? You seem like a cool dude.”
“Well… Zach and Andy are waiting for me… but I guess a quick beer wouldn’t hurt I guess.” Mumbled Ride.
At first, they sat awkwardly in Fantano’s living room. But then they started talking about Death Grips and other music. They were soon off on a riveting conversation.
After a while, Anthony said; “hey… I haven’t really been honest with you Stefan… Can I call you that? To tell the truth, I know a lot about Death Grips. I’m pretty much your biggest fan.”
“Ha-ha… Yes I know… and I have to confess something too. I watch almost all of your video reviews. Y-you could say that I’m your biggest fan.”
Anthony then did something very risky. He laid his hand on Stefan’s leg, right above the knee. Their eyes met, and the next thing Anthony knew, their lips were locked and they were lying on the couch together.
“Can Andy and Zach wait?” asked Anthony.
Ride’s response was to continue kissing him. They made out like this for a few minutes, and then Ride started slowly moving down to Anthony’s private area, kissing his beautiful chest on the way down.
“Please” whispered Anthony.
MC Ride slowly unbuttoned Anthony’s black shorts. Anthony’s rock hard penis sprang up, and MC Ride started sucking it off. It was the best blowjob of Anthony’s life. Far better than any blowjob his girlfriend had ever given him. The way Stefan’s tongue moved… it was amazing.
“Ohhhh Stefan… I think I want you to do the nasty in my taxi!” yelled Anthony.
“I AM THE BEAST YOU WORSHIP” replied MC Ride as he took Anthony’s cock out of his mouth.
Anthony bent over on the couch, and got on his knees. Ride undid his all-black jeans, and revealed his lengthy penis. He started to put his throbbing penis into Anthony’s butt, when all of a sudden,
“IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES YUUHHHH!!!!!”
“Oh my God!!” screamed Anthony. “You get-get-get-get got-got-got-got it in!”
MC Ride wasn’t a tender lover. He pumped and pumped until finally, in euphoria, he came inside of Anthony’s butt. He withdrew, exhausted, and laid down next to Anthony, who had reached orgasm as well.
“H-how was it?” Asked Stefan.
“you’re good…” Whispered Anthony. Whispered Anthony. “I liked your lovemaking. I would give you a strong six, light seven.”
Sean Tiu please stop
“Thinkin' they shits is heavy when they light like illumination
Intellectual masturbation with premature ejaculation”
- Talib Kweli
KRS-One, Chuck D, Lord Jamar, Immortal Technique, Dead Prez, Killer Mike, David Banner, and Lupe Fiasco are the only rappers I can take seriously when discussing social and political norms.
HipHopR&BLover Jon lord jamar lol
Christopher G. What's wrong?
HipHopR&BLover Jon He is a joke
Christopher G. How?
HipHopR&BLover Jon He is racist, and really closed minded about a lot of topics, he is honest about it though I'll give him that, but doesn't change the fact lord jamar has not realized we're not in the 90's anymore.
Did the guy who invented college go to college?
Ever V what's wrong with the quote is it to "corny " and "cringy" for you
@@ItzJamm_ Yes, it is
rG Jamm Are you serious? Is that bar good?
I think Lemonade is a pretty good example of "fake deep," or at least the video direction for that project. The aesthetics are almost an exact rip-off of a 1960s art film that it does not credit, and it just seems like it uses lots of pan-African imagery for the same reason Christian stuff shows up in anime: because someone thought the symbolism was "so deep" and cool looking.
Nicole Lyn that's what I thought too
Nicole Lyn Evangelion ain't fake deep tho
The Christian symbolism is.
Nicole Lyn true, but that's the fault of the fans, not the show it's self
Nicole Lyn what are you talking about when you say lemonade
Immortal technique is real deep. Killer mike is real deep. Brother ali is real deep.
In some ways X (in riot) and all 3 of those artists have spread the same message but only one is getting called fake deep for it. hmmm
Lil Pump is real deep
No they aren't, they're typical liberal talking points spewed out on record to spread victim mentalities.
He's somewhat skilled, he tends to flow off beat.
K-Rino, Beast 1333, Atma, Canibus, ILL BILL ............
FAKTONY DEEPTANO
Ray Martinez deepthony faketano
I swear to god that background of Hopsin is moving
I think X's music is deep on a philosophical and conceptual level if you're in grade school or high school, so that is to say, not very deep. As a matter of sophistry, it is pretty "deep". Many of his songs are incredibly personal and vulnerable, so I can appreciate the depth of his music in that regard. I'm certainly not listening to X to gain a deeper understanding of politics, history, or self-development, I listen to it to enjoy his experience and point of view-- his music is a case study of himself and his circumstances.
I do not think he's had the development of character, knowledge, or practice to be able to write something politically or conceptually deep, I think at the time he was simply incapable of it-- for example he never really came to terms with his actions, the best we got were vague gestures of sagacity, humility, and generosity, which could not be said to be performed or provided without some intention of self-preservation. No amount of charity or number of airy platitudes had ever truly absolved him of his hideous behaviors and actions; he never faced trial and had to face the serious consequences of his actions, because the justice system was either incredibly lenient due to him being a minor as well as growing celebrity status, and because he had died too early to proceed with his trial. At most he's only ever touched base with his demons.
Completely disagree with this one.
First, if 'deep' is knowledge that spurs epiphanies and helps somebody grow and develop as a person, what is considered 'deep' is determined by how developed a person is. You might have a far greater understanding of the world than somebody else, but if you're comparing yourself to a bunch of kids that haven't had as much exposure to the world of course you'd see it as monotonous. By the time fan bases you're criticizing get on the level you're at right now, you'll be even more developed and they'll still seem redundant. Everybody's not on the same level at the same time, but by discrediting the artists that help them get to a higher level of understanding you'll make artists less incentivised to even try.
BROLLYKURISAKI I can spell the names in your username right and you can't
Scaleatin Boneyoho it's because those people are the lowest common denominator. It's a low bar and robs the actual respect real brilliance deserves
What a bunch of convoluted crap. So just because some people lack character/intelligence that automatically makes shallow art deep? No, absolute garbage.
@@markb9907 Well, all art is subjective. To those who you may consider deep or impactful may not be the same as I, or anyone else does.
God I fucking hate unskippable ads
4 your eyez only is fake deep
Sherk The Mighty Ogre That Onioned Shreks Wife W
No
An Account That Gives W's nah not really, it just does t sound that great, but the concept is pretty deep
4yeo>>> damn
Earl Fan true. Damn is so overrated it's not even funny
I am now depressed because I want to keep up with the trends these days
also people think being depressed is cool nowadays???
Fake Deep = shit like Jaden Smith's Twitter, "Miracles" by ICP, Rick & Morty fan theories
I don't really care if you cry
On the real, you shoulda never lied
Shoulda saw the way she looked me in my eyes
She said: "Baby, I am not afraid to die."
Push me to the edge
All my friends are dead
Push me to the edge
All my friends are dead
Push me to the edge
All my friends are dead
Buck Nasty why
2Deep
Deepest lyrics I have ever seen. This changed my life. In 30 years I will my kids about this moment.
Hopsin : FLOW KING
XXXTentacion : DOMESTIC ABUSE KING
Fake Depth = A term used by the pretentious who think they're deeper than others.
Joyner Lucas is fake deep
31 Savage this better be bait
You just mad cause he did your own song Bank Account better than you
Facts!
High School Deep is probably a better term. Most of us are like this as teenagers.
J Cole is the epitome of fake-deepness
*In b4 white and hispanic teenage girls start raging*
And Logic
Again, mad props for wearing another Death shirt (Symbolic album? I can't tell from here) If you're a fan of metal, I highly recommend listening to Death. Start with Scream Bloody Gore and keep going! My favorite album is Spiritual Healing. Guitar work is phenomenal. R.I.P. Chuck...
ryotbryant rip chuck 🤘🏽
ryotbryant bro have you listened to the new cannibal corpse single?
ryotbryant have you listened to Jane Doe? Love that album.
Dan not into cannibal after barnes split. The guitar work is great though.
Sidekick 821 jane doe by converge? Yeah it's cool.
XXXTENTQCION: *Exists*
Subtitles: XXX 10th Asian
subtitles sus
No meming this video boish
Stop Anthony Fantano
I think there is an important distinction between being deep and being meaningful. Ik it sounds contradictory but when I think deep I think of voting beyond normal statements and assumptions made by society on a topic, where as meaningful is more of talking about something which you believe as important rather but not necessarily giving groundbreaking insight
"Fake deep" is just the actual definition of "pretentious," but people who are themselves pretentious have all but turned that word into a cudgel against anything with a smidgen of conceptual ambition or polysemy.
ConvincingPeople Nice trying to tell people who call out bullshit pretentious while you yourself are being pretentious lol
Oxymorons are only good with oxycontin
ConvincingPeople "yeah whatevs"
Nah shit be corny and stupid. Not profound or deep.. ppl flock to allat of bullshit
6:11 Nailed it there Anthony, too many people who dislike this current generation of artists (everything they put out) lack the brain capability to simply do that. Let alone deep rap.
Fake deep is a phrase used by pretentious college students who think they are the epitome of intelligence because they parrot Neitzche's thoughts when ever somebody who is supposed to be stupid says something thoughtful. Not to say there aren't artists who say stupid shit when they are trying to be deep, Hopsin is a great example at that, but for the most part this is a case of elitist arrogance. The same type of people that claim they are against racism, classism and bigotry but treat anybody who comes from a different culture with a lesser education like they are less than human.
strawman
Yeah uhhh,
This just isn't true.
Fuck off you clown.
@@myrsphere755 "Uhhh" "Fuck off you clown." Lol someone's hurt, go back to Twitter where you can go cry about your feelings to like-minded people
Kavoj ew, cringe
I seriously just had to watch a 40 second Sprite ad before this video. What happened to the 5-seconds-and-skip rule, RUclips ?
Logic is the fake deep champ
so i watched this video of how to pronounce xxxtentacion and i made a joke of "its pronounced xxxtrash" and now i have this 14 yo that keeps annoying me saying he super deep and that he can relate so much to his music...
Well if all you listen to is future/Lil uzi type artists of course artists like X seem deep.
Evan Burgener "splishy splashy so gushy" is deep asf fuck u mean
Future has some deep songs perkys callin is deep
SEE ex if only i know whats he's saying. Future is just a missed oppurtunity with beats
I think the idea of fake deep ultimately boils down to a lack of original analysis. In the example of the new XXX video, he provides imagery and lyrics that would not require his own independent thought on the matter to make. “Real” depth comes from analysing the subject and presenting the thoughts and feelings you have on the subject in a 3D manner. That is to say that I don’t believe that the imagery and (in particular) the lyricism should get 100% of the message across the first time you watch it. True depth for me requires multiple viewings/readings for further understanding and that ultimately still leaves a level of ambiguity remaining.
It could be thought of as a physical depth.
- Surface level statements
- analysis
- subtle analysis (that perhaps makes reference to other sections/ideas raised)
- ambiguous analysis (open to interpretation)
Ironic that there was an add for Popeyes when Melon is a vegan...
Most Dragonforce songs have more depth than most hip songs nowadays.
And tbh the bar has lowered an absolute fuck ton. All you have to do is basically say I'm depressed and I wanna die or go on about drugs in a roundabout way and 15 year olds and mid 20's hipsters will lap it up and go on about how deep it is.
Hopsin has been getting better imo, he has some good stuff on the way
I considered AAB to be fake deep as he was just repeating a similar message through each track without any sense of creativity. Literally hammered it into my skull
1800 by logic isn't dope
It js
i thought that that mustache was fake. It is not, unfortunately.
Rick and Morty is probably the quintessential "Fake Deep" show.
Compared to an actually deep surrealist meta-physical show like Xavier Renegade Angel
Rootin for Lenin Rick and Morty doesn't even claim to be deep it's the stupid half of the fans saying that lmao
Excellent point on the over abundance of commercial, fun, ignorant music making it easy for someone to look deep simply by mentioning social issues.
Do 'I Hate Mars Bars'.
Back in my day, if you were "fake deep" you were just called a poser.
....
Did the man who invented college go to college?
much needed vid in todays world of music
Anthony Hopsin-fan-tano
Never thought i'd see the day melon acknowledged even the slightest anything that had to do with Hopsin.
*Starter pack* of current hip hop that is actually "deep"... Who would you add?
- Run the Jewels
- Open Mike Eagle
- The Roots
- Joey Bada$$
- Kendrick
- Vince Staples
- Rapsody
- Shad
Honorary mentions:
- Lupe
- Mick Jenkins
- Denzel Curry
- Underachievers
- Cole
- Jay Z
- Common
- ATCQ
PLIES
I'd add talib and mos def to that list for sure.
Maybe also Madlib, DOOM can be very introspective when he wants to be.
you wild for adding open mike but not milo
also, what is mick doin in honorary mentions? put that nigga where he belongs in the actual list
Ab Soul.
So can we get a list of artists who are actually "deep" and which of their works provoke the most thought and why it is deeper than XXX, Hopsin and J Cole?
Jesus I just realized what that background was hahahaha.
Only a few artists who are "deep" gain mainstream success.
Fake deep gets you 1000 clout tokens
How many roads must a man walk down, before you call him a melon.
Fake Deep is definitely a thing but it all comes with the language and the appearance and the cadence. The reason why xxx and Hopsin are called fake deep is because of those things. xxx looks like an emo kid and the way he talks makes him sound like that he's "trying so hard to be intellectual".. when he's just hitting the surface level. And with Hopsin, he has those contacts.. still! And you know because he wanna look like an outsider and it would complete his message with the music. The "actual deep" guys, like Kendrick Lamar, Danny Brown, even Drake sometimes, go deep in a way that comes from a sincere place. With their language and how they say it, you can actually hear some pain coming out. It's all about execution and what you choose to say/how to say it.
use a different type of english to get your point and maybe I'll listen
Justo Blando Kendrick? Deep? Lmao
Primarily the people who think X is deep are high school kids and young adults. When you're in high school anything edgy, dark, and/or violent is deep and avant-garde to you, cause you're filled with angst and anger and confusion about life. I think once you hit your 20s or figure out what and who you are that edginess leaves you for the most part.
Xan Master Pump >>> Xxxfakedeepnacion
Hopsin sees himself as a prophetic, philosophical rapper when he's really the David Wolfe of hip hop.
almost as bad as fake woke
Real ninjas remember the Kodak Black "Tunnel Vision" video then dip.
review the new tommy genesis single
Hopsin is the only living legend to ever actually exist.
confirmed: to pimp a butterfly played backwards is fake deep
Hopsin is pretty much the definition of "fake deep". I mean, what the fuck did he mean with this garbage?
"Heavy thin air, sahara mascara smeared, end of an era
Tracks on Hera's peacock thighs, china white skies, ivory of my leper eyes"
All-Amerikkkan Badass was the definition of fake deep in my opinion. No idea why you rated it so high.
pyril I completely agree
pyril Because It was well made and sounded good. And what its fake-deepness doesn't completely define it like Hopsin or X.
Luis Eduardo Veloz X isn't fake deep and doesn't try to be. The only example of him being fake deep is the Look at me video. He's not trying to make his music profound, he's trying to make it personal.
As much as I love Hip-hop music even some of the 'conscious rappers' out there never go beyond surface level. They point out something obvious like 'police brutality exists in America, police target minorities' and everyone thinks they're woke or fresh for pointing that out. Conscious hip-hop can be great but people love to hype it up way too much.
Uzi vert is fake deep
that was the exact thought i had right before i clicked "view reply"
people analyzing XO Tour life are so funny
Paul George have you not seen uzi's interviews
bryan cuevas he's never deep lmao wym? He just expresses his emotions in his songs on
Logic certainly applies to this "fake deep category"
Kendrick Lamar is fake deep
“Fuck murderers. Murder is bad.”
Hopsins most deep song is FLY like if u agre XDD
Fake deep would be a great name for a mainstream pop band
first dislike
Mars T W
Mars T F
If I didn't read the title, I'd of assumed this was a Kendrick Lamar review.
Real niggas know reality is the tip of an iceberg of irrationality that we've managed to drag ourselves up onto for a few panting moments before we slip back into the sea of the unreal.
How deep something is depends on how you interpret it. I could say I Am The Walrus is fake deep while another person could say "no, dude, that shit is deep af, bro".
The truth is if a song is metaphorical it is open to interpretation, which means how deep it is depends on what meaning you give it. If a song isn't metaphorical it is just a story. Stories are fact. Fact is not deep. However, a story could be an analogy or contain metaphors, giving it depth.
While it's true that some songs pretend to make very transcendental statements, I would never use the term "fake deep". A lyric can hit you in the right place depending on context and what you've experienced. The depth is given by the artist's background and what he was trying to convey in that moment.
If you say "fake deep" you are just trying to make yourself appear deeper by disregarding someone's lyrics. That being said, I don't like Hopsin.