@lizclegg Basically Julia told her mother everything that Samgrass had been doing to manipulate Lady Marchmain into giving him money to 'take care of Sebastian'. Mainly the whole scene when Samgrass and Sebastian went abroad and Samgrass lost track of Sebastian, using Marchmain's money to tour Egypt and other places.
"Come a cropper" means have a fall, fall out of favor. Samgrass fell out of favor with Lady Marchmain because Julia told her mother that he'd lost track of Sebastian over Christmas. Sebastian was on a binge the whole time, and Samgrass hadn't protected him.
@fatparrot66 I agree. People seem to be projecting far too much of their personal misgivings about religion, etc. and their 21c understanding onto her and looking less at the times, class, and culture she inhabited. All things considered, given her social station and the limitations of early-20c knowledge of such matters, Lady M, could very well have been considered warm & caring. Can anyone imagine any one of her aristocratic counterparts being any more demonstrable in her love?
Charles is like a parasite, latching onto each successive member of the family - first Sebastian, then Lady Marchmain and then Julia - really, he is one of the most treacherous characters in English Literature. I have seen him incarnate in another novel as a character named Tom Ripley, who ends up murdering the Sebastian of that story.
+Messylin An interesting comparison. Not one that has struck me before, but it's a good parallel. Having said that, I find Charles a likeable character (maybe because as narrator he is our interlocutor?) which I couldn't say for Tom Ripley. I don't think there is any such pretence in Charles's character, nor is he deliberately duplicitous. Charles has to walk a very difficult tightrope with the Flytes, when really all he wants is the simplicity and happiness of normal existence. Rather like Sebastian who, with his nanny and his teddy bear, is "in love with his own childhood" (to quote Cara), Charles enjoys the nursery-like innocence of a happy childhood when he first meets Sebastian's set at Oxford. He is inadvertently pulled down the difficult paths and into the complicated relationships by dint first of the family's hold on him (exemplified primarily Lady Marchmain) and second by Sebastian's alcoholism and the effect that it has on Charles, pulling him in the opposing directions of friendship and duty.
Ah-ha! I knew the guy who plays Rex was English rather than Canadian. His accent gave it away, specifically his trouble pronouncing "r," which English people drop unless it's before a vowel, whereas Canadians and Americans have rhotic accents (meaning we always pronounce "r"). I guess it's not a big deal, but they seriously couldn't find a single Canadian actor to fit the bill?
+TimeandMonotony Interesting comment. I hadn't realised that he (Charles Keating) is English. I quick check of his biography shows that he spent a lot of his early life in the USA, where he grew up and learned to act. Maybe this has influenced his accent?
Well.....sorta. in the U.S. any number of regional accents and dialects soften their "r"s -- the most widely familiar being the Bostonian ("pahk the cah", etc) made famous by the Kennedys. Widespread throughout New England, in fact -- Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine (most of which border Canada, incidentally). The 'old Southern' accent (Virginia, Kentucky, Carolinas) is another example.
You may know better, but his accent sounds like some Americans from films of the 1930s and 1940s. As another poster points out, not everyone in North America pronounces mid-word or final 'r'. As a Canadian I don't find he sounds typical of us now, but maybe of some people (a few of whom I vaguely remember) who came of age around 1920.
I am not getting it either. Yes, she is cold, somewhat pompous and hypocritical, and the constant harping on religion is a turn-off. However, the way she acts is pretty normal for the times she grew up and lived in, in the story. It's easy to see how a young inexperienced Charles would think she's evil because Sebastian says so, because her husband left her (a situation Charles is not used to seeing) and because Charles is not into religion. But overall she seems pretty dern ordinary to me.
the guy that is supposed to be canadian is nice looking and puts me in mind of a throwback to an actor from the 40s or 50s. classy guy.
A bit like Gomez on the old Addams Family shows.
The character of Rex is played by Charles Keating who made the Another World villian Carl Hutchins famous!
I have seen the movie of this story and it too was great ! Thanks for uploading this series !
You should read the novel, it's beautifully written!
@@barkebaat Thanks. I have downloaded the book into my e- reader and have to find the time to read it 😊
@lizclegg Basically Julia told her mother everything that Samgrass had been doing to manipulate Lady Marchmain into giving him money to 'take care of Sebastian'. Mainly the whole scene when Samgrass and Sebastian went abroad and Samgrass lost track of Sebastian, using Marchmain's money to tour Egypt and other places.
Rex sounds more English than Canadian to me.
I wonder what I would have to pay for that bottle of Montrachet today.
Just what Rex would have asked himself.
The price of everything ...
@@barkebaat Not going to lie. Of all the characters in Brideshead, Rex is my kindred spirit.
"Come a cropper" means have a fall, fall out of favor. Samgrass fell out of favor with Lady Marchmain because Julia told her mother that he'd lost track of Sebastian over Christmas. Sebastian was on a binge the whole time, and Samgrass hadn't protected him.
It looks like they left out Mr. Samgrass' "Grand Tour".. maybe too time consuming to explain for the film?
6:35 Why I love Rex Mottram!
Charles.....Apollo
Sebastian..Dionysis
Rex.............Alpha male.
@fatparrot66 I agree. People seem to be projecting far too much of their personal misgivings about religion, etc. and their 21c understanding onto her and looking less at the times, class, and culture she inhabited. All things considered, given her social station and the limitations of early-20c knowledge of such matters, Lady M, could very well have been considered warm & caring. Can anyone imagine any one of her aristocratic counterparts being any more demonstrable in her love?
Charles is like a parasite, latching onto each successive member of the family - first Sebastian, then Lady Marchmain and then Julia - really, he is one of the most treacherous characters in English Literature. I have seen him incarnate in another novel as a character named Tom Ripley, who ends up murdering the Sebastian of that story.
+Messylin An interesting comparison. Not one that has struck me before, but it's a good parallel. Having said that, I find Charles a likeable character (maybe because as narrator he is our interlocutor?) which I couldn't say for Tom Ripley. I don't think there is any such pretence in Charles's character, nor is he deliberately duplicitous. Charles has to walk a very difficult tightrope with the Flytes, when really all he wants is the simplicity and happiness of normal existence. Rather like Sebastian who, with his nanny and his teddy bear, is "in love with his own childhood" (to quote Cara), Charles enjoys the nursery-like innocence of a happy childhood when he first meets Sebastian's set at Oxford. He is inadvertently pulled down the difficult paths and into the complicated relationships by dint first of the family's hold on him (exemplified primarily Lady Marchmain) and second by Sebastian's alcoholism and the effect that it has on Charles, pulling him in the opposing directions of friendship and duty.
Ah-ha! I knew the guy who plays Rex was English rather than Canadian. His accent gave it away, specifically his trouble pronouncing "r," which English people drop unless it's before a vowel, whereas Canadians and Americans have rhotic accents (meaning we always pronounce "r").
I guess it's not a big deal, but they seriously couldn't find a single Canadian actor to fit the bill?
+TimeandMonotony Interesting comment. I hadn't realised that he (Charles Keating) is English. I quick check of his biography shows that he spent a lot of his early life in the USA, where he grew up and learned to act. Maybe this has influenced his accent?
Well.....sorta. in the U.S. any number of regional accents and dialects soften their "r"s -- the most widely familiar being the Bostonian ("pahk the cah", etc) made famous by the Kennedys. Widespread throughout New England, in fact -- Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine (most of which border Canada, incidentally). The 'old Southern' accent (Virginia, Kentucky, Carolinas) is another example.
You may know better, but his accent sounds like some Americans from films of the 1930s and 1940s. As another poster points out, not everyone in North America pronounces mid-word or final 'r'. As a Canadian I don't find he sounds typical of us now, but maybe of some people (a few of whom I vaguely remember) who came of age around 1920.
I am not getting it either. Yes, she is cold, somewhat pompous and hypocritical, and the constant harping on religion is a turn-off. However, the way she acts is pretty normal for the times she grew up and lived in, in the story. It's easy to see how a young inexperienced Charles would think she's evil because Sebastian says so, because her husband left her (a situation Charles is not used to seeing) and because Charles is not into religion. But overall she seems pretty dern ordinary to me.
Really? do you know many Canadians?