Inside OKCupid: The math of online dating - Christian Rudder
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
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When two people join a dating website, they are matched according to shared interests and how they answer a number of personal questions. But how do sites calculate the likelihood of a successful relationship? Christian Rudder, one of the founders of popular dating site OKCupid, details the algorithm behind 'hitting it off.'
Lesson by Christian Rudder, animation by TED-Ed.
You forget one more variable. People lie. And more often than not, people lie to themselves.
so deep
Xantiago P tnx
Every man, no matter how strong he is, lies to himself about something, I'll find your lie and I'll break you.
Jai Verma Yes absolutely true. And that's the biggest flaw I with these kind of studies which rely on self-evaluation.
+Jai Verma I never lie to myself...tf
I want to create my own dating website and pair up shitty people with equally shitty people.
+Ian Korish But then their children will have the recessive shittiness gene!
this sounds good. let the underdogs breed themselves. *evil laughter* we'll take all the good genes...
But wait! If you do this you're shitty!
+Ian Korish Tinder. All the hot ones are jerks.
MosukaDreamer I've always felt there are some psychological factors when it comes to this subject. They say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." ... Maybe we're just attracted to jerks...
I was on OKcupid for a while. One of the questions that came up was "what is bigger the earth or the sun?" At first I thought that was a irrelevant question, but the more I thought of it..it became a very important question because it was a question a second grader should answer correctly. You would not believe that the earth is bigger than the sun. I just could not imagine myself in a long term relationship that did not know that simple fact.
FACT: Flat earth has approximately infinite surface area and zero volume. The sun must be at infinite distance from flat earth to pass around it, thus to see the sun from infinite distance must have infinite scale minus some to not encompass the whole sky and appear as a large point in the sky. Thus both are equally infinite but sun has volume dimension thus infinitely more than 2d flat earth. SOLUTION: sun
Ben P. I hope you are a very sophisticated troll
Ben P. Ie, you could still answer this right even if you were crazy?
One can always find the correct answer on Google, so it’s irrelevant
Strategically a good idea to weight it high as well. You get more strong matches this way because most people know it's true.
1. I have about 4 girls to talk to in my area.
2. None of them talk to me.
+LordoftheJamesClan Could be worse have have hundreds of girls in my area only a few dozen talked to me for a few sentences then never talk too you again.
+MuffHam Yeah, that's literally my life.
+LordoftheJamesClan *sobs in defeat*
was on ok cupid for 3 years... lots of guys in my area... all wanted sex not dateing... right when i leave okcupid and go to another site... i find a guy..
+LordoftheJamesClan I have hundreds of women in my area with a +90% match and none of them respond to me.
It's very interesting, though it requires that a person knows what they want in their partner. In my experience, it's sometimes the partner who surprises you and has a personality that you didn't know you were attracted to who is really good for you. Though it is a lot of fun to fill out a questionnaire like that and see how your dates filled out theirs.
+Dion7 You are right! Is uncommon for us people to know what we want. Even if we think so.
Plus we tend to lie to ourselves. When people fill up those questionaires they answer what they believe they should answer in order to be with the person they believe they want to be rather than what they really should answer, human psique is quite good at making up things. Ideal-self trying to find ideal-SO
+Dion7
In my experience, people don't give too much credence to the match percentage unless they're really low... in which case there's a good reason for it. People can always update their answers if they find characteristics in a person they find they like once they experience them (since you very rarely come across someone who is a 100% match - unless you've only answered about 5 questions out of the thousands of questions they have).
That's true, but what I think OKC is good for is questions that would be dealbreakers in a relationship, eg, if one partner wants children and the other does not. Sure, one of them might change their mind, but it's more fair to just not take that chance and only date someone who has similar aspirations.
women don't know what they want so just be tall, be handsome, pack a big dick, and have lots of money. Using math to try and break down the most illogical thoughts and desires doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Instead, just be valuable and that will translate into all the partners u need. My philosophy is that if you're good, people will compete for you.
Dion7 Yeah. I always read the questions that were answered. If there’s any that’s important to me (like if they want children or not), I’ll use that, but the small stuff really doesn’t matter.
I met my ex-wife the old fashion way...through a friend. I wish that person had never been my friend.
Holy shit...
Fucking dark...
Boba Fett at least you got the privilege or hapinnes (i'm guessing)
Woah
Lol
This was an elaborate commercial for Ok cupid. sneaky
And exactly how does your algorithm handle the man from Nigeria that's pretending to be a woman?
mildly racist but +1 for insight
+Wild4lon
If the statement was instead "the man from a backwoods Alabama trailer park" would you still find it just as troubling?
+1 hahahah
+Momma llama In a Can
the question is why did he add the information "from nigeria" at all?
if it is supposed to add drama or make it worse in some way, based on this assumed attention it can be reasonably judged as kind of racist.
if he just added this detail to add some colour into his "story" its just some example.
(there is a lot of room in between those different interpretations, but i think saying it might be a bit racist is not too far fetched. )
on your example, this could be classist, or discriminatory in some other way, dependend on the intention of the statement.
the diffference is that you don't say "an white american" but you specify the origin and culture of the person, and pairing culture with negative properties as a negative example is different, than criticism based purely on skin collor (racism) .
of course it could be that the first commenter has a great insight into nigerian culture and this was somehow a clever reference and he didn't just say one random african country he just thought of this could be of course the same thing.
but chances are, its not.
(i don't know how many non black people live in nigeria, but i think its fair to assume that the person who wrote the comment thought of the person to be black as the main atribute, exxcept being male, which some people could define as sexist, but as the atribute of the statistical more likely sexual predatorry gender could be underlined with actual scientific data and evidence in that case it would not be sexist, but satire.)
yes its complex^^.
+jonas samuel Or that Nigerians pretending to be people they aren't is a bit of meme because internet culture is a thing.
one problem - there are 100 times more males whan females in dating websites
Then add preferences for gay people by ticking a box saying are you gay, transgender, bisexual and so forth and set...
gay=1
bisexual=2
transgender=3
and so forth and match the algorithm using the equation n=n for the following
This doesn't matter unless this website is only meant to be for straight people or they're all not gay, bisexual, etc...
The problem I found with online dating is that you spend time chatting online, even a phone call, and when you meet them in person most of the time there is zero chemistry or you know they are not right after a few minutes. I believe that dating face to face is the still the way to go.
You are supposed to use the online platform to create face to face dates. It's a means of finding people -- the dating doesn't actually happen online, despite its name.
You really hit the nail on the head there, proverbially speaking. The only real reason to use online dating is to meet people you would've otherwise never have met, but it really is a gamble as to whether that person is even *A)* a real person and not a robot *B)* the actual person and not someone pretending to be that person *C)* willing and able to respond to your messsage *D)* someone who looks and acts the same in-person as online
That's true. The chances are very high that with online dating you get a lot of dates, but if you met them in reality you actually would never have asked them out. Because real life dating tells you immediately the real deal, all the unconscious information that can be hidden online.
I'm starting to realize that I'm getting close to the point in my life where internet dating might actually be a thing I do.... and that makes me sad
Channel 46 same 💔
Channel 46 There is absolutely nothing wrong with meeting someone through a dating site. Millions upon millions do it every day. It’s harder and harder to meet people new as we get older.
nothing wrong with that! I'm still rather young (24, student), meet plenty of people (including my ex-girlfriend) in real life but still try out okc every now and then, because it has some advantages: you can do it any time, anywhere, it's a bit less random and you know that the person is open for dating and interested in you right away (which at parties can take a while to find out). there's just too many stereotypes of online dating being only for people who fail in real life, so let's use it openly and fight these stereotypes :)
So sad
1000 like
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It would be interesting to see if this algorithm can measure the likelihood of two people getting together who gave completely opposite answers to the questions. It would cast a light on discovering whether opposites truly attract and with what frequency.
I also would like to see how happily married couples who have been with each other for more than a decade+ would score in their algorithm.
can you invent something like that for just friends? i would use that
There's an app called Skout which is for making friends, apparently. I haven't used it so idk if it's even any good.
Cat M. It’s not good at all trust me
Afaik you can use OkCupid for that and just put "looking for friends" in your profile, they'll only show you to other people looking for friends.
Plenty of them already exist but I don't know of why that match people with similar interest
There are apps for friends, why are you on a dating site looking for friends...
That explains why "matches" are so wrong usually.
You're asking these questions assuming that a) these people are answering you honestly. b) that they are aware of what they actually want.
The problem is that people lie (social desirability bias), overestimate the extent to which they understand their own behavioural traits (Dunning-Kruger effect), and either ignore the numbers because they find someone attractive (infatuation) or rely on them too much (anchoring). So long as human error plays a role, matchmaking will be a messy affair.
It's better to spend time with people and judge face-to-face whether or not they make you happy, have an idea of basic traits that are desirable (compassion, honesty, reliability), and put your apish emotions to one side as much as possible when choosing a mate.
That would require the bravery to actually converse with someone of the opposite sex, and charisma so it goes well. When I look around me I don't see much of either anymore.
You're implying that the same thing about bias and lies doesn't happen in real life, it does, (I do it...), and your also implying that getting a match on the site means you go straight into a relationship, which it doesn't. Cupid simply finds a match, then you actually converse with that person yourself to see if they're right for you. When my dad got his match from whatever site he used, it was a good few months before it was made official.
Samyueru Nekogami I don't mean to imply either of those things; I'm just talking about online dating specifically.
***** Ah ok, sorry I misunderstood. Yes, that does come with it's own range of problems, but it solves almost as many problems as it creates. It's an entirely different kind of love with different rules, and everything you brought up are things that people will have to pay attention to and know how to combat.
Samyueru Nekogami No worries :)
The math of online dating:
99% males 1% females :P.
+Hamid Shanbe 90% of males just looking for sex.
Personally I just want a guy who will not ask for sex, has a job, and doesn't treat me badly. This is really hard to find.
With the economy the way it is, it's impossible for one person to earn enough to raise a family. Most families are dual income. If I have to work my butt off to earn a living I full expect the man to do the same.
As long as there's not a sole person taking care of house hold chores, instead both spit the chores there should be less fighting.
+Dalish Elf maybe it helps not to throw statements like "100% of the time" around, just allways say 99% or "mostly" it shows that you actually think critically and don't claim absolute truth as many people do.
(i don't say you are i just say statements like that make you seem like on of those people.)
and lastly, the thing with the 5% is not universal, in some cases 0,5% (often 2,5%) is a significant diversion it depends on which field of science you are in, what kind of test you are doing (and in what magnitude)
oh and by the way, there are many happy couples who wait several months to have sex for the first time so your statement is at least uncomplete.
One problem with this method is that you may love or hate something at one point in time only to feel the opposite about it later, and it could be your significant other who introduced you to this idea. For example I thought the horror genre in general was terrible when I was younger, but I had a poor understanding of it. Meeting my wife, who is into horror, introduced me, and it is now a genre I love just as I introduced her to the wonderful world of anime, and it is now a something she loves. These are things we have in common now, but from this example, we would have never matched up within that dating algorithm.
thats why the love is wa more something than that site. but still a good site though
that also apply to real life dates
I personally wouldn't tag those pen-pal questions such as movies as very relevant or important so it won't be used to some extent to match the potential partner. When you don't distinguish those you will generate a lot of superficial data and match. But yes... you have to revise your answers from time to time, as we might answer something wrong simply because we were in the bad mood that day.
I met my husband on OK Cupid. We've been married two years. So far so good!
Nobody on OKC actually talks to you. I can't tell you how much effort I've put into having actual conversations but all I get is stupid "yeah lol", "me too", "same hahah" or other stupid, empty, meaningless three word responses.
I'm sorry, but this might just mean that the way you answer match questions generally matches you up with shallow, uninteresting people. That, or the messages you send don't invite interesting conversation. I get interesting responses for the vast majority of women that I message when they're an 80% or higher match.
That pretty much summed up my entire online experience with okcupid a few years back.
Casey J you don't get to reach into peoples souls just like *snaps finger dramatically* that! you gotta know them for a while and make yourself enjoyable to talk to for long(like funny, polite, sweet, witty and not too deep for now but mysterious and intriging) enough for them to somewhat trust you then they'll spill. and that's when the real fun starts. Just be patient.
Being on OKC pretty much made me realize most people ARE shallow and pointless.
I tried it twice, both times I got similar results to these. People blatantly ignoring questions, never asking any in turn, or just using the site for a different purpose entirely.
I usually cringe at the thought of dating sites, but this video made me see that perhaps there's more to them than pure lust. Plus, he used the geometric mean as opposed to summing the scores and calling it a day like I've seen people do, you've earned my respects young man.
How did you decide on the numerical values in the scale? How did you justify 0, 50, and 250?
well 0 is easy to justify as not important/nothing,.. then 10 sligtly, from there 50 looks more important and 250 much more.. by math it would be 5 x more important than 50, which in that case you'd call "very important"
I think that these scores are simulation parameters. Difference between 250 and 50 can lead to unexpected matches, so designers change the parameters. 50 and 51 might be low or not strong enough for enormous effect for matching.
I noticed a few common statements about OKCupid;
answer 1000 questions at least so that the algorithms work the best they can
be patient: don't expect anything serious in the first weeks
don't make a majority of your questions mandatory: that could make realistically pointless questions skew your results
be picky: don't date everyone above 50%. aim for 96% to 99%
Never get a match cause only 10% of users are female xD
I have meet my current boyfriend on okcupid, we were a 71% match. I'm glad I joined.
I met my husband on Okcupid and we are happily married for almost 3 years and now we have a beautiful baby girl
how long did it take for you to find each other online?
@@worthlessmutts9598 1 month
I started signing in December 24 then I found him January 29
We became friends for 3 months
Then he finally realized he’s inlove with me 🤣😅lol
@@TheHarts According to the video we need you to also tell us how long he was searching for you, multiply, take the square root and that's the final result 🤓
how to scrue your algorithm in one sentence??
PEOPLE LIE !!!!
As he said, people lie =)
Yeah, but people will lie in real life, too. So that fact doesn't diminish the algorithm's ability to predict the likelihood that the relationship will work.
Hey I lie too, lets scrue in said position.
bruh but u can't fix that
computers can stare at ur face to check if u have a guilty look or something, i would be more worried if it can
This video sums up what programming is about
Hahahah😂
Let chat on instagram veroinca2020
Not even close :/
All of which is meaningless since, by their own admission, what really matters are the pictures.
I owe a lot to this video. After watching, I set up a profile out of interest. Today is my first anniversary!
Now that we know how to analyze the match percentage, can we analyze how to get messaged back?
check the blog. They study user results and share them. One guideline is to write and send messages of a certain length, 40-90 characters.
I can't get anybody to even say hello.
Then the only problem is not knowing what you really want or wanting something but not knowing what you need. Also with questions like organization. One might think of themselves as average but another person my think they are messy or really neat so perceptive is also a flaw. I don't think you can math those out though so this seems reasonable enough.
People change everyday and to judge them on what they said at one point and time is wrong
Barbadensis salicylate that's true, but within a single day, you can change responses to questions asked on the site, and you can constantly update the profile. they took that into account
I have used OkCupid in the past and have found it quite valuable with the one caveat. Like everything worthwhile in life it takes some work: For every date I went on (lots) I updated not only my written Profile (which was substantial), but I reviewed my questions (and I answered a ton of them, so this took some work). I used what I got from meeting each person on the date to refine my Profile AND the answers to my questions. I found that a decent amount of my answers were in the ballpark, but I hadn't fully realized either the importance I had placed on the question or maybe that my answer was not as "true to my own self" as I had first thought it was when I answered it.. Bottom line: The more time I put into updating my data based upon what I had stated either very correctly, less correctly or what I should have specified clearer in my written profile, the better a match I could expect on the future dates. The process, while requiring some serious involvement, dramatically changed the character of my recommended dating pool on OkCupid for the better. I also have to say that I bounced ideas off of someone that was willing to help me rethink some of Profile wording or answers to questions. That really helped. For me, a solid relationship is extremely important.. so I put a lot of effort in and it paid off.
I met my boyfriend on OK Cupid and we've been together for 4 years. We were only 60% compatible according to Okc but we took a chance and fell in love anyway.
omg can u pls tell me about it? do u have a social media so we can talk? how long from u making the okcupid profile to meeting this guy?
Are you still together now?
@@MrPDTaylor I guess they are no longer together. 🤷🏽♀️
Met my Husband 10 years ago on OkCupid. We have been married for 5 years and we now have an 8 year old son, 7 year old daughter and another boy on the way 2021. Only went on one other date before meeting the love of my life. This site is the truth as long as the people using it is keeping it real.
Am trying this app can yuo tell me how yuo manege coz its hard for me
Nostalgia is hitting hard right now , this was the first time I saw a
TED ED video
It might work better if anyone cared at all about the matching algorithm. Ultimately, it should have some predictive capability, but it doesn't. I have observed no correlation between match percentage and response rate. The only difference is that it is more of a disappointment to be ignored by a 96% than a 35%, though it happens no less often. Furthermore, this inorganic system cannot provide grounds or a subject for interaction; you can't open a message with a reference to how high your match percentage is, unless you couch it in a joke. As a result, those "superficial" items like common media favorites and shared interests become the crutch again, and since continued exchange relies on the success of those original interactions, they are significantly more important factors than the match percentages, which really will only predict the nature of an existing relationship, not the likelihood of one forming.
i was at first sceptical about okcupid. watched this similar video on the same date in 2015. set up one profile as an experiment. answered those questionnaire questions. found a guy with matching 87% compatibility and we're now inseparable ever since
those questions are BS. I have been on plenty of dates on OK Cupid with a range of compatibility percentages. It really didn't matter whether they scored 60% to 95% to you. I think their method is a bit too complicated when trying to match personality with personality. Why not integrate personality inventories that get to the core? like Keirsey Temperament Sorter... etc.
Just what I thought. The reason for this phenomena is the fact that people are highly emotional and irrational. Attraction doesn't work with logic. So this is actually just wasted time.
Dating websites are essentially just like freebie site for women. She shows up makes a profile then site back and wait for all the free dinner invitations.
not just sites. that's dating in general. be good looking and get more ppl trying harder to get u.
+GeminiMaddnezz86 metro.co.uk/2014/01/14/man-sets-up-fake-online-dating-profile-pretending-to-be-a-woman-but-quits-two-hours-later-due-to-harassment-and-hostility-4262185/
that's a sexist assumption
+Love Me Please!!! Not really...
@@im.not.typical91 Pretty accurate actually.
This is so cool
I met the love of my life on OKcupid! I would be freaked out that simple math and a computer brought us together, but I am so happy that this dating questionnaire solution brought me so much happiness and love in my life. 🥰
I was about to ask if you were still with them after 9 years, then i realised the comment above you was 9 years ago.
Your's was only 9 months ago.
Met my husband on OkCupid!
Great explanation. I met my partner on okcupid 2 years ago. We were a 96 or 98% match. I'm very happy with the results.
What an amazing effort put into finding matches. It's a shame, though, that no one will talk to you unless you're within the top 10% of attractive in your photos.
I have several ex-boyfriends I met on OkCupid. It's good at matching you with someone whose interests and personality might be suitable at face value, but doesn't really give you any insight into somebody's relationship style, which is maybe the most important thing in determining long-term compatibility. IMO.
Can I be your 8th ex-boyfriend :D?
Aren't people often bad judges of their inner desires and of what would actually work - i.e. what they think they would like in another person might not actually be a good predictor of compatibility? Because of this, I think I'd prefer an algorithm that also utilizes research on psychology of relationships and what kind of factors might predict happy long-term compatibility, statistically speaking etc.
Didn't expect it to be that complicated. Great stuff!
I had a date with a 94% or so match from OKCupid some time ago. We had a lot of common interests. We had read or wanted to read the same books, watched or wanted to watch the same movies, played or wanted to play the same games. We laughed about the same things. We had similar goals and aspirations in life. We had almost identical personalities. It was creepy. We never met again. True story.
Annnd this is why I don't use dating websites: the comments. They reflect how shallow human nature is. But, congrats to those for whom the website does work ^_^
Teencat it's a shame perhaps we would have met and find ourselves to have lots in common, perhaps we would have same goal in life and could had only reach them togheter, or perhaps we would have hated eachother on a level we never though possible, who knows the possibility we are missing =_= who care tho, WHO lol
That a shame, You could have found an annoying boyfriend just like you
I found that most of the things they asked RE; preference in a partner were not very important important. The things that were important had to do with deep flaws, and were not asked about.The stuff they asked about mostly seemed very superficial. So I put a lot of "not at alls" in my profile. Then, they kept telling me that there were to many "not at alls" and therefore, they were having trouble making a match. I don
t want to rule somebody out who might be amazing because of some small reason. A lot of that stuff proves to be irrelevant when you meet anyhow. People go against stated preferences all the time. So, what to do?
+Ethan Davidson Did an algorithm write this ^ comment?
+Ian Korish ??????
maybe its hard to find someone to you my friend
+Kaan Bostancı Yea, but It wasn't always. Just recently, due to aging and poor health and the crappy state of internet dating and such. For you, it must be easy. Woman dig passive agressive insults.
Beautiful said. I had the same problem.
I appreciate that you use the geometric mean of a pair's match percentages.
Even though I would never use a dating site, the whole concept is very fascinating
my husband and I were matched on okcupid and we are very happy
wow i guess you must be living happily
@@capt.ann.lugard8353 this is also 4 years ago and we are divorced now 😅
@@lovetolose Oh i see and i can see you had a lot of experiences.. so what are your future plans, i will like to know you much better
I'm old school, I don't do online dating
I met my husband on OKCupid. We did match pretty well, but I had given up on finding a real relationship there, and had just started striking up conversations with people who posted interesting profiles or explanations on their questions. That's how we started talking. I made some friends that way too.
Geometric Mean. Something new I learnt today, from OKCupid dating algorithm.
Any dating app is just a random swipe left/right game. Maybe there's complicated math behind its algorithms but in reality there's no logic in human behavior on those apps.
71% match and 3 years later we're married now
I found the man I love on OKCupid, and my brother met his wife there. Couldn't be happier!
Love this. Love seeing numbers tied to what you would this would be hard or impossible.
OkCupid is quite possibly the world's most boring website. It is so dull that it will not even tell you when someone has viewed your profile -a vital piece of information for online dating. Additionally, we have mathematicians who are, let's be honest, quite possibly the world's most introverted and socially awkward people making decisions about the initial stages of romantic relationships.
I met a girl with a 99% match after I truthfully answered over a hundred of occupies questions... she could not be more opposite of me. The big issue was that she answered every question with in a type of way that was a half truth. For example, I highly value weight training - she listed herself as highly valuing weight training... after having done it for a week. I studied neuroscience at Johns Hopkins University -- she studied neuroscience... online using an audible course. the date was horrible. And she didn't shave her legs so her leg hair was literally longer than mine. (I still shudder).
People can be honest with themselves online in some aspect but dishonest in another (especially dating site ) but this applies to real life as well. What I see is that online dating can help filter and narrow your potential choices, but the ultimate algorithm lies within your mind, and only you know the best. This couldn't be written down by any programmer cos it's unique to everybody. Bear this in mind, work out your own system and don't rely totally on okcupid. Use it only as a tool. ;)
can i get an f
A friend of mine met her wife on Okcupid and they both have 2 kids. and I just registered on your platform with the hope to meet someone nice and simple.
This is a schoolbook example of an expert system. I had a whole subject dedicated to such systems last semester. Awesome subject :)
only if the 80% of questions didn't require quite active and way open varied sex life.
The mathematic of online dating? I think you mean maths. Mathematics of dating.
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Whatever you want to call it... It proved to be a waste of time as most of my "matches" were to people of ethnicities I clearly stated I don't like to meet. Maths may be one thing but personal preferences are just as important!
@@veronicaaviles3848 Thanks but it's not me in the picture.
@@KayNovember26 I agree, I see this all the time as well, and a friend of mine was getting frustrated that despite 'filtering out' certain ethnicities he would still see them. It's political that those dating things don't work properly. The political left wants diversity - mixing all the paints so nothing remains except one boring colour. No more culture. Everything interesting lost. Mixed beyond recognition. That's what the left wants, and you can bet on it that those behind dating sites are politically left.
What happened in 2010? I use to go on good amount of dates prior to 2010. I’ve literally got zero matches for the past 10 years.
Algorithms change.
Best commercial I've seen in a while...I need to start an account!
I met my boyfriend on okcupid ( We are only a 48% match on there by the way, yet have a lot in common) but I must say a lot of guys on there are not looking for a serious relationship just a booty call and I don't believe the match percentage works because it's based on how many questions you answer, there are ALOT of questions on okcupid, more than 100! Most people, let alone guys, don't wait around to answer all the questions, therefore you cannot really say whether you are a good match or not. Not to mention people could totally lie with their response to the questions and you could be matched with someone you aren't really a match with. Sorry to put okcupid on blast but its true. Some questions are just stupid too. "Do you like to chew gum?" Seriously okcupid? What kind of question is that? LOL!
I am glad you have a success story from online dating nonetheless.
You have to remember it is only an algorithm, and it takes its data as facts and does it best. I think putting too much weight into the % can be a problem after all it is just a human constructed algorithm. I personal use it as a way to justify if someone would be a friend and if meaning full conversation is acquired.
You have to remember also there are over 1000 questions and as a Mathematician getting any data just for Statistical analysis is exciting.
The CEO has talk about funny stats they get like "would you have sex on the first date" one correlated question for women is "do you like the taste of beer" where as 2 of 3 for men are "would a Nuclear War be exciting" and "would you ever consider killing someone"
I think okcupid is great for meeting people outside your circles and help with social anxieties many people have.
The algos really don't work at all from what I've noticed, mostly because people have different uses for the site, its true a lot of guys are on there to find a booty call, but a lot of girls sign up there for the comedy, they log in, and read the stupid messages they get, laugh at the losers and don't reply. I mean its true most of the messages are probably from guys with no game. But the truth is these chicks wouldn't reply even if it was worth replying to, because its not the reason they are on there.
With the algo, women really should be careful with that and the questions they answer, there are a ton of sex related stuff, and any self respecting girl wouldn't want a guy to know what shes into in the bedroom on a first date, and its awkward knowing that stuff off the bat without asking especially when its none of their business, unless they plan to take it that far on the first date, in which case okc is probably the wrong site.
tw19771 I think the algorithms work very well, that is why they are there. It isnt like some high school graduate is making them, they are mathematics lol
It is true OKC is more of a booty call site, but their are is a large community using it for its intended us, to find new people they would get along with.
You dont have to answer any of the questions if you dont want to. It is just another way to help match personalities behind closed doors and in public.
The best thing about OKC is you dont get that bullshit in which you have to pay just to message someone or be able to read a profile. This is what OKC is doing right. and regarding the people making accounts as a joke, as long as they are not string someone on and lying to them making them waste their time, i dont have a problem with it; a lot of weirdo guys use it and even older men seeking/stalking younger women.
I think the problem lies not with the program, but with the simple fact that people are douchebags.
All that means is that the more questions you answer, then the more accurate your match results. I'm a guy and I answered 1500 questions on there.
The amazing girl I met on OkCupid matched 99% with me, and hey, longest relationship I've had so far and it's still going strong XD I never expected to meet the girl of my dreams on a dating site, but hey, anything is possible =3
How is it going now man?
@@mr.gubagub1899 As amazing as she was to be with romantically, she was controlling and manipulative. I broke up with her after 2 1/2 years. I met another girl randomly in person at a Japanese language meetup group about 4 years ago, and we just got married last September. She's a dog person (and allergic to cats), and I'm a cat person, so we probably wouldn't have matched super well on a dating site in some ways. I guess dating sites aren't always the best places to meet a partner lol
@@EZCarnivore dang. Didn't actually think that you would reply after so long.
Oh yeah online dating is not always the best lol . I mean in the end everything worked out for the best. Even though you guys have your differences still you got along and I'm actually kinda glad that you found someone again and got married. Happy married life man!
P.S. I'm a cat person myself. :p
@@mr.gubagub1899 You're not the only person who's replied to a super old comment of mine recently lol, only way I wouldn't reply is if I died or my account was deleted by Google for some reason. I'm definitely glad things worked out better, I didn't realize how unhappy I was with my ex until I dated other people after her who weren't so controlling. Thanks! Even though I was a cat person, the dog we own together now I love so much, it's so cute and makes us happy every day, so now I'm a cat person AND a dog person thanks to my wife lol
I chose to reach out to my now significant other of a year and a quarter because of his looks 😂He didn't really read my bio either, but we still made it work! I think we were about a 22% match actually! 😂 We are extremely different as far as interests in books, movies and events go, but we're pretty socially similar, and have quite similar family dynamics! I've found the person who is my intellectual equal and what I think is the love of my life thanks to OKCupid. So thanks to the team who made the site! ❤️
Hello Dani. how are you doing ?
Hello, it's nice to meet you here
How are you doing?
This was video was just a drawn-out ad for OkCupid but you watched it anyway
I put the answer to the question "would you sleep with someone on the first date" as mandatory. Somehow I do not get matches.
BOOK BURNING IS WORSE
Plus, this flag handbook thing said if a flag is no longer in use, it should be disposed of in a proper way, SUCH AS BURNING.
what if the book was twilight
what if the flag had twilight written on it
what if the book wrapped in a flag inserted into a larger book with an american flag on the cover but had the title twilight on it
is that an adventure quest worlds pfp
@@BenJaminLongTime Either way, it's still information you're disposing of. In any case except for fake information in a non fiction (antivax, flat earth etc.) book burning is worse. If it is fake info, I'd personally torch it.
EDIT : Fiction doesn't count as false info
@@BenJaminLongTime You can make another flag. You can't remake another book. Book burning is worse.
I was always wondering how these sites made matches with people. i knew about algorithms before, but did not understand how they turned people's views and emotions into something a computer understand. I loved this :D
I found a flaw in the algorithm!
Some questions are obviously more likely to get the same response that others will give. If subject A, B and C would answer all questions the same, but subject A answers all questions, subject B only answers questions where people are more divided and Subject A answers questions where people are more unified. Also, subject C and B answer the 50% of questions the other does not.
Subject C would be more likely do get matches than A or B, even though A answered more questions and B answered the same amount.
I noticed this problem when I was on OkCupid. I started off with only several questions answered, and they were ones I found easy to answer. Ones I believe answers would be more unified. The more I answered harder questions, the more I noticed my match percentage to go down.
This creates a system that punishes people for engagement. A dangerous flaw.
still forever alone XD
I participate in full-contact sports five nights a week. No offense, but OKCupid keeps trying to match me to 300 lb. girls who pick four of their six "favorite things" as food items. Think you need to check your algorithms a bit?
Well nonetheless they are your "match" compared to your questions. You can always pay to have extra options to search though people too? i know one lets you only see "body type x"
I want to reply to this because I'm not sure that you took all the facts into account here. You are an athlete correct? So any question that asks something similar to "What is your diet like?", you will likely answer "I eat everything!" (Not actual questions and answer, simple example). So what do you think the women you are being matched with might be answering as well? Most of OkCupid's questions are personality based, math, religion, politics, sexuality, morals/ethics. They algorithm is pretty good, you might just have to look a little deeper into the answers that you give compared to the results that you are getting. Simply put, just because you are an athlete, doesn't mean that women with uncommon physique won't match with your personality.
Cool!! I've never used a dating site, so I was wondering how they work.
this was actually really really interesting
Interesting content, but the animation hurts my eyes....
ME and other school mates have done an analytic approach for an experiment
The site has become more "swinger" friendly"
It's also a terrible place for girl to look for sex
not mention all of the catfish and stood ups and sexual assault that happens this site has become more dangerous one of our students was almost rape because of "Netflix and chill" She literally went over to this guy house thinking that all the were going to do was watch Netflix and kick back
-smh- I never new what that ment until i was told
Raven Moon
Do sexual assaults real happen there?
Misanthropic Kitty some not all
First time seeing a lesson creator narrate the video :)
From my experience back when I used to use okcupid, there were a LOT of people on there who were trouble and had really messed up lives and or had serious mental issues or just simply wanted to get in your pants.
Wouldn't it be better to have an 75 percent match? I mean... If two people have too much in common it seems like there wouldn't be enough room to be an individual.
No, because when selecting the ideal answers that you would like your partner to have you can select answers different to yours. In that case a high match percentage would still be better.
The system falls down on many counts: (1) It presumes that people answer honestly. The entire dating game (initially at least) is founded on telling another what we feel that they want to hear. (2) All answers fail to factor in a person's flexibility and tolerance levels. (3) Answers fail to take account of frequency. For example if one partner likes scary movies, and the other does not, what difference does it make if they have little time to spend watching such ? (4) Answers fail to take account of the fact that most couples are not joined at the hip. Parties can go there own ways to enjoy some of eg. their hobbies. (5) The system is untested and cannot be tested. So it can never amount to anything more than (spurious) theory.
Sadly it's the old problem of extremists believing that their ism is is central to all life - mathematicians, priests, politicians etc.
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This was a lot of information about okc that I didn't need to know but now I do
Hello Lee.. how are you doing ?
Great explanation !
No, you got it wrong- Heisenberg and his wife are not that compatible.
am i only one that uses somehow important for 90% of my questions? :D
True - I am sure that one of the biggest sources of error in a system like this (ie. getting a high score with someone you don't end up liking when you actually date them) is that many people don't really know what they want. Their self-evaluation might be a ways off from what their reality is (like thinking you want to be the center of attention, when in reality you feel more comfortable when others take the lead).
Still it is a useful tool even when it only works a little.
What I mean is that the ratio between the absolute numbers should be factored in. In the case above the ratio in how important the q's are to A & B is ca 5 to 1 (10/11 vs 50/51).
lol. Christian Rudder.
Muslim Anchor.
Jewish Keel.
Buddhist Bow.
Hindu Knots? ehh, I ran out.
OK Cupid sucks. If you're a girl then you will get thousands of messages and if you're a guy you have to look like a male model or your message will just get lost in the mix and you will never get a date. Bullshit site.
+Jason Scott too true...
+Jason Scott
That's not OK Cupid... That's life!
+Jason Scott Everyone just writes "hi" or "how are you" and in the worst case scenario "how U doin?"
The one I ended up dating was the one who wrote "Let it snow..." In the header and asked me if I liked snow, because he would love to have a coffee date in the park tomorrow, and walk through the glistening frostyness.
It did snow that evening and because it was kind of funny, I said yes.
+Tayet4Buri Cannot confirm... I always send unique interesting messages like that and I hardly ever even get responses, let alone date requests.
+Alex Shor Then those you write to aren't worth your time. If they don't even bother they obviously aren't deserving you. The only exception would be if you write stuff like "wanna f#@k", then you are the baddy.
This was pretty amazing. I might consider, but I want to have my freedom a little longer.
I put up a profile in the summer of 07 just to meet people in my area, not to exclusively find a long term bf. However, in December of 07, I met Hank. We've been together ever since. It just worked out. Good job OKC haha.
Walter White
1:47 He doesn't even mention the shit questions.
somehow its so hard to date with someone on okcupid but great idea, thanks.
Nowhere in this video did they actively promote OK Cupid's services. This video was helpful as an introduction to algorithms with a real world example. And now I understand algorithms better than if someone had given me a complex mathematical explanation. It isn't a commercial, at least not from my perspective.