Good vide! My advice would be that you take turns voting on things in a blind test because the person voting first can influence the other person's decision.
My favorite coffee is Chock full of Nuts. (it’s a heavenly coffee) I’m a little disappointed that it wasn’t in your taste test. If you ever get into mixing different coffees try mixing Folgers and Chick Full of Nuts about a 50/50 mix. Great blend, wonderful aroma, and a wonderful after taste like chocolate. Thanks for the video.
I've had surprisingly good results brewing Aldi's store brand ground coffee at home... especially the Donut Shop flavor. I believe it's a medium roast made with Arabica Coffee Beans, and it's very reasonably priced. I encourage people to try it, because it's not bad coffee in my opinion. To be clear, I brew a full pot in my old Automatic Drip Style Machine, and I use 9 scoops to 12 cups of water.
I am a coffee-holic lol I agree with Dunkin and McD being the best out of these, though I haven't tried every single one of these! I just love how cheap the McDonald's coffee is but it is so satisfying and consistent.
I have tried many coffees in the US and I have tried many coffee traveling to Central, South America and Africa and all those coffee are really bitter and apparently it is because of the type of coffee they have and specially because of the process of getting the final dry coffee bean. The only coffee that was perfect in flavor, smell, bold, rich and not bitter was the Colombian Coffee and I learned why. Colombian coffee has a very precise process where they use clean water, they pick only the best red coffee beans , and most of the coffee plants are Arabica coffee plans. Really the best coffee.( I am not Colombian. Colombia really specialize in producing the best coffee)
I just discovered you guys this morning while trying to find a great tasting coffee. I really enjoyed the video, and you made me laugh. Thank you for that! 😁😂👍🏻
Thanks for the review. I have to go back and look for your first one too. I have been talking about doing a coffee series on my breakfast @ the office reviews around Christmas time.
Man, I haven’t drank Hills brothers since I lived at home and had a job as an night shift inventory clerk . Got look into it. Great review- you guys are hilarious.. but informative.
It's a good idea to buy McCafe from the store because when I worked there the coffee machine was either being repaired, or sat too long and went cold on the pot heater.
Totally correct! I just suggest folks smell the coffee through the valve in the bag before purchase. If you like the smell I think you will like the coffee.
I like videos likes this where no one is stirring up drama. the best coffee I've ever tasted was Jacobs (a German brand) Germany has a lot of good quality teas and coffees.
i live in canada and i really like mccafe. dunkin donut isn't available here. Mc cafe is on the expensive side at $20 for 900g of coffee. the cheapest coffee i like is actually Folgers Black silk selling for $9.99 for 750g at the closest walmart.
If you go to Ross stores Dress for Less they have Starbucks ground coffee bags 12oz 340g for 5.99 it depends what Ross store you go to not all of them have all the flavors
damn i just thought i loved mccafe and dunkin coffee because of all the late study nights i survived by drinking them but seeing people saying they are actually great... im amazed dunkin is definitely my favorite like i can drink it anytime or any day
I’m not a huge coffee guy by any means, but the best cup of coffee I ever had was Gevalia ‘Royal Vinter’ blend. It was part of our Gevalia subscription we had years ago. I believe it came in the winter time and then it was gone. I never found that blend ever again. 😪
Your two picks (mcd and dunkin) have been my go to for years. And I drink decaf so it's hard to find a good decaf. My wife really likes the Gevalia colombian and their dark roast.
Alright so i watched this video forever ago and when i decided to look again for more coffee's i searched videos yet again and had to refind this video to watch it again because all other video's where a bunch of bs. Either had politics and other things except the taste and cost of the coffee, and the ratings most of the time where clearly skewed to company's in which might pay them to advertise and such. So congrats you have the only practical and best ground coffee major store brands in all of youtube, so thanks guys. Now make a new one updated on dark roast and columbian style coffee's which pretty close to the same thing and you can even add other darker stronger flavors for ground coffee in it. Personally anything that is light in color and doesn't have almost any taste is probably not coffee and most likely just a wet bag so i prefer to stick to darker fuller coffee's where i can.Even if i plan to creamer the spit out of it, it needs to taste like real coffee.. ;p you shouldn't drink it in a Styrofoam cup btw only glass shot glasses for the best taste is how you should do it.
I probably don’t brew it right, but I hate Dunkin coffee at home. I love getting it from Dunkin, but I can’t seem to find any enjoyment in it brewed at home. It just doesn’t taste the same. I brew Folgers at home though and it’s literally AMAZING. I also appreciate that Folgers is much more affordable than Dunkin lol. Great video, guys! You two are both honestly very entertaining. As a fellow bald guy, I salute you! You’ve earned new sub!
The Dunkin is probably brewed differently at their shops. They most likely use a Bunn type brewer, which is why making at home might not taste as good. I found the Folgers Black Silk tastes good and brewed with a Mr Coffee maker.
The best cheap coffee I ever had is Good Carma Coffee in Minneapolis Minnesota and I have lived in Washington state were Seattle is the coffee capital of the US. Well it was at the time in 2010.
Watching and listening to these two yoyos describing the Maxwell House coffee as having a "nutty" and a "pine" taste... and thinking wtf are they talking about?, because I'm sipping a cup of Maxwell House (fresh K-cup) right now and there's NO such flavors in this brand. Good video for the comic value!
I drank Folgers breakfast blend coffee for over 40 years. It is a mild roast but very good flavor. A lot of the flavor depends on how much you put in the pot each time. I tend to like strong coffee and I use a little more than normal. At my house is a coffee bar and most of my coffee is whole bean. Fresh ground wins out every time. I have several brands at the moment and I do mix brands when I grind it. Amazon brand dark roast is one that will bring back some hair for you guys. Starbuckets very weak. I won't buy it again. But sill, the Folgers ground breakfast blend brewed a little strong has some really good taste.
Best capo I ever had in my life was in a small mall in Saudi-Arabia. And I've had coffee from Italy and all over Europe and SA. They used Lido for the milk/cream. Then again, they do call them Arabica beans..
I roast my own coffee from Sweet Maria's, so it's not possible to replicate an insanely high quality bean.... (My favorite cultivars are Gesha and SL-28.) But if i drink industrial coffee, I honestly like McDonald's and Dunkin Donuts the best.
Great video, and very funny. In freshman year, I had my first experience with hot chocolate in a Styrofoam cup. I brought it to the table and downed 1/2 of it. I was surprised that I did not have BLISTERS! LOL After years of instant I just bought a Mr. Coffe maker. My friend recommended Dunkin, so it looks like that was good advice. Respectfully, why drink out of Styrofoam cups? Wouldn't a regular ceramic cup be better, because it won't add its own taste? I'll look at your other videos! :-)
Oh funny. I wrote my comment about liking McDonald's and Dunkin Donuts coffee the best BEFORE I watched the video. Awesome that we came to the same conclusions!
Maxwell House is pretty comparable to Buckies for Caffeine! Folgers actually is tested at a 40 mg per cup without having to go full on Decaf. I'm stuck with witches brew for a while! 🤣
I am 100% Cajun, born, raised, and still live in Houma, La. and drank Community dark my entire life, and there was NONE better. But I have to say, it is NOT the same coffee anymore, not even close to what it used to be. It is harsh now.. With it not being as smooth and flavorful as it once was, and them raising the price so much, that I had no choice but to bail out on them.
@@meauxjeaux431 I don't recall it being that expensive, but I thought it was like a commune or green or organic coffee. Tried one bag and didn't like. But then again, to each his own. Some folks like Bustelo.. to me that's the harshest nastiest stomach rotting ground dirt I ever had..
I actually really like the coffee from McDonald’s and Duncan’s. I’d like to try the differences at my house. Gunna probably be the thing I look forward too this weekend.
Do you guys have a sip of water between taste tests? Little aeration with some slurps might help bring out the flavor if you use a spoon.. I know this video is over 3 years old at this point lol
wrong answer- 8 O'clock Columbian Peaks whole bean..great coffee with a unique wonderful winey/choclolatey aroma as soon as you open the bag. Great- not good.
I like most of my food slightly browned, I wouldn't say it has more flavor but I like it sometimes a little burnt taste good, I have only tried a half dozen different coffees so I don't know what level of roast I like most is yet though.
I've been buying instant coffee for the convenience but finding a good instant coffee is hard. So I'm going back to fresh ground and I like a Dark Roast so if you guys have any suggestions I'd appreciate it.
We don't see you guys, clear your palate(s) / tongues with fresh filtered water or ( Aquafina ). How can you guys give an honest review, when the different flavors blend together from one coffee to the next?
There are 2 basic kinds of coffee beans: Robusto beans are more plentiful therefore less expensive and much higher in caffeine. Folgers and most of these brands are certainly robusto. Arabica beans are not as plentiful, priced higher and much less caffeine. Starbucks, McCafe and Dunkin Donuts are Arabica beans. Arabica beans are always clearly labeled as such. If you don't see ARABICA on the label, you are drinking robusto beans. If you're looking for high caffeine, that's your bean.
Good vide! My advice would be that you take turns voting on things in a blind test because the person voting first can influence the other person's decision.
Thanks for the tip! We'll be sure to switch back and forth!
I concur.
My favorite coffee is Chock full of Nuts. (it’s a heavenly coffee) I’m a little disappointed that it wasn’t in your taste test. If you ever get into mixing different coffees try mixing Folgers and Chick Full of Nuts about a 50/50 mix. Great blend, wonderful aroma, and a wonderful after taste like chocolate. Thanks for the video.
Which type of Folgers and chock full do u mix?
I agree with CFON too. Disappointed as I think its the best mass produced coffee…and its still sold in a metal can.
My husband’s favorite is Dunking Donut. We entertain quite a lot and he always makes the coffee. Guests rave about how good his coffee is.
I've had surprisingly good results brewing Aldi's store brand ground coffee at home... especially the Donut Shop flavor. I believe it's a medium roast made with Arabica Coffee Beans, and it's very reasonably priced. I encourage people to try it, because it's not bad coffee in my opinion. To be clear, I brew a full pot in my old Automatic Drip Style Machine, and I use 9 scoops to 12 cups of water.
I also brew my coffee in an old school automatic drip coffee maker. Try the Kirkland ground in the bag, really good - and no plastic container!
I am a coffee-holic lol I agree with Dunkin and McD being the best out of these, though I haven't tried every single one of these! I just love how cheap the McDonald's coffee is but it is so satisfying and consistent.
I have tried many coffees in the US and I have tried many coffee traveling to Central, South America and Africa and all those coffee are really bitter and apparently it is because of the type of coffee they have and specially because of the process of getting the final dry coffee bean. The only coffee that was perfect in flavor, smell, bold, rich and not bitter was the Colombian Coffee and I learned why. Colombian coffee has a very precise process where they use clean water, they pick only the best red coffee beans , and most of the coffee plants are Arabica coffee plans. Really the best coffee.( I am not Colombian. Colombia really specialize in producing the best coffee)
4:27 thanks for the new soundboard clip for when someone asks me if I want to do something terrible
8 o’clock never disappoints
Do people in USA still buy eight'o'clock coffee till today??
Is eight'o'clock coffee now a big brand in USA??
@@darkknightrises3571 Has been for a while.
Gosh. I love this channel! Always comes in handy prior to trying something new at the store. I appreciate you guys much!
I just discovered you guys this morning while trying to find a great tasting coffee. I really enjoyed the video, and you made me laugh. Thank you for that! 😁😂👍🏻
Thanks for the review. I have to go back and look for your first one too. I have been talking about doing a coffee series on my breakfast @ the office reviews around Christmas time.
I like how you guys described the coffee.
The citrus may be what I like in the Hill Bros and Gevalia.
Man, I haven’t drank Hills brothers since I lived at home and had a job as an night shift inventory clerk . Got look into it. Great review- you guys are hilarious.. but informative.
MCDONALD'S coffee is pretty good especially for the price
It doesnt taste the same as the one you buy at McDonald's
🤣
@@knifen2478 that's because they burn the shit out of it
I like to make mine in an purcolator
KnifeN247 because a 15 yr old pizza faced kid is making it
It's a good idea to buy McCafe from the store because when I worked there the coffee machine was either being repaired, or sat too long and went cold on the pot heater.
I liked it when we can actually see the containers, and roast levels in the video... ex.
the k cup review.
From what I understand, McDonald’s acquired the bean source for Tim Horton’s which is why theirs has vastly improved and Tim’s lost.
Love your fun attitudes!!!🤣🤣🤣💖👏
McCafe and Dunkin makes sense, actually. 1850 and 8 O'Clock are the other standouts of this group imo.
Yes, agree 100%
Do people in USA still buy eight'o'clock coffee till today??
Is eight'o'clock coffee now a big brand in USA??
@@darkknightrises3571 Yes its sold in almost all supermarket stores.
There is no favorite coffee it's all about what you like 😉
almost. not just what you like but I don't like coffee that goes through me like a freight train on the first couple sips.
Totally correct! I just suggest folks smell the coffee through the valve in the bag before purchase. If you like the smell I think you will like the coffee.
I like videos likes this where no one is stirring up drama. the best coffee I've ever tasted was Jacobs (a German brand) Germany has a lot of good quality teas and coffees.
Try Cameron breakfast blend and Kona there light roast but good in my opinion.
I am a big fan of the McDonalds coffee. I enjoyed this video, thank you.
You guys made me get up and make a pot of coffee and it 10 pm at night
Hope you enjoyed!
Same!!!
I'm still waiting for you guys to come back for more taste test.
i live in canada and i really like mccafe. dunkin donut isn't available here. Mc cafe is on the expensive side at $20 for 900g of coffee. the cheapest coffee i like is actually Folgers Black silk selling for $9.99 for 750g at the closest walmart.
Multiplatform Gamer black silk is what I drink too nice smooth bold flavor
If you go to Ross stores Dress for Less they have Starbucks ground coffee bags 12oz 340g for 5.99 it depends what Ross store you go to not all of them have all the flavors
For a folgers black silk is 7.48 for 686g at walmart 24.2oz
At my walmat a 30oz mccafe canister is 8.94
Hey that shirt is awesome (guy on the right)...now back to the video
Coffee is one of those things in life where some of the basic of cheap selection have the best tasting and balanced flavors.
damn i just thought i loved mccafe and dunkin coffee because of all the late study nights i survived by drinking them but seeing people saying they are actually great... im amazed
dunkin is definitely my favorite like i can drink it anytime or any day
Maybe you should do a post on the less contaiminated coffee
I’m not a huge coffee guy by any means, but the best cup of coffee I ever had was Gevalia ‘Royal Vinter’ blend. It was part of our Gevalia subscription we had years ago. I believe it came in the winter time and then it was gone. I never found that blend ever again. 😪
Cafe bustelo is my favorite I've tried and stuck with it going on 5 years now
Don Francisco’s is the best especially the vanilla
The main thing to know about coffee imo is always get 100% arabica bean 👍🏻 no matter what brand you use.
Your two picks (mcd and dunkin) have been my go to for years. And I drink decaf so it's hard to find a good decaf. My wife really likes the Gevalia colombian and their dark roast.
Alright so i watched this video forever ago and when i decided to look again for more coffee's i searched videos yet again and had to refind this video to watch it again because all other video's where a bunch of bs. Either had politics and other things except the taste and cost of the coffee, and the ratings most of the time where clearly skewed to company's in which might pay them to advertise and such. So congrats you have the only practical and best ground coffee major store brands in all of youtube, so thanks guys. Now make a new one updated on dark roast and columbian style coffee's which pretty close to the same thing and you can even add other darker stronger flavors for ground coffee in it. Personally anything that is light in color and doesn't have almost any taste is probably not coffee and most likely just a wet bag so i prefer to stick to darker fuller coffee's where i can.Even if i plan to creamer the spit out of it, it needs to taste like real coffee.. ;p you shouldn't drink it in a Styrofoam cup btw only glass shot glasses for the best taste is how you should do it.
you should try out the Nescafe Brand
I'm pretty sure that other than the bald guys, most of us would agree that Starbucks SUCKS !
it's bitter
Their Pike Place Roast is pretty good. It stands out quite a bit from most of their others
i absolutely love their light roasts
I haven't had much Starbucks, but they aren't that bad in my experience.
The Starbucks ground coffee I.like is called pike place medium down the line medium
Pike Place Roast is great coffee. In my opinion the only Starbucks variant worth drinking
I probably don’t brew it right, but I hate Dunkin coffee at home. I love getting it from Dunkin, but I can’t seem to find any enjoyment in it brewed at home. It just doesn’t taste the same. I brew Folgers at home though and it’s literally AMAZING. I also appreciate that Folgers is much more affordable than Dunkin lol. Great video, guys! You two are both honestly very entertaining. As a fellow bald guy, I salute you! You’ve earned new sub!
The Dunkin is probably brewed differently at their shops. They most likely use a Bunn type brewer, which is why making at home might not taste as good. I found the Folgers Black Silk tastes good and brewed with a Mr Coffee maker.
Cafe bustelo is my favorite
The best cheap coffee I ever had is Good Carma Coffee in Minneapolis Minnesota and I have lived in Washington state were Seattle is the coffee capital of the US. Well it was at the time in 2010.
Walmart donut shop coffee is good by great value
No....no it isnt....lol
If you like rich coffee flavor, folgers or hill house top 2 if you like a little sweet or nutty dunkin donuts .
Watching and listening to these two yoyos describing the Maxwell House coffee as having a "nutty" and a "pine" taste... and thinking wtf are they talking about?, because I'm sipping a cup of Maxwell House (fresh K-cup) right now and there's NO such flavors in this brand. Good video for the comic value!
Been searching for the taste of old time coffee shop/diner coffee I've always loved-will ck out McCafe now.
I agree with the winners, but I think I prefer the dunkin a bit more. It's a bit beefier.
I drank Folgers breakfast blend coffee for over 40 years. It is a mild roast but very good flavor. A lot of the flavor depends on how much you put in the pot each time. I tend to like strong coffee and I use a little more than normal. At my house is a coffee bar and most of my coffee is whole bean. Fresh ground wins out every time. I have several brands at the moment and I do mix brands when I grind it. Amazon brand dark roast is one that will bring back some hair for you guys. Starbuckets very weak. I won't buy it again. But sill, the Folgers ground breakfast blend brewed a little strong has some really good taste.
Aww you two seem like such nice country folk. I’m from New Jersey lol
I really love lavazza espresso
I agree, coffee for me is Lavazza. Esp super crema, but it is expensive.
McDonald's Research team put huge effort to bring Mccafe on US household.
Thank you for this!
Best capo I ever had in my life was in a small mall in Saudi-Arabia. And I've had coffee from Italy and all over Europe and SA. They used Lido for the milk/cream. Then again, they do call them Arabica beans..
I like coffee cafe busters
I roast my own coffee from Sweet Maria's, so it's not possible to replicate an insanely high quality bean.... (My favorite cultivars are Gesha and SL-28.)
But if i drink industrial coffee, I honestly like McDonald's and
Dunkin Donuts the best.
Great video, and very funny. In freshman year, I had my first experience with hot chocolate in a Styrofoam cup. I brought it to the table and downed 1/2 of it. I was surprised that I did not have BLISTERS! LOL After years of instant I just bought a Mr. Coffe maker. My friend recommended Dunkin, so it looks like that was good advice. Respectfully, why drink out of Styrofoam cups? Wouldn't a regular ceramic cup be better, because it won't add its own taste? I'll look at your other videos! :-)
Thanks for stopping by and great suggestion!
It was probably so they wouldn't have to clean all those cups.
I agree with your choices☮️💜
Oh funny. I wrote my comment about liking McDonald's and Dunkin Donuts coffee the best BEFORE I watched the video. Awesome that we came to the same conclusions!
Maxwell House is pretty comparable to Buckies for Caffeine! Folgers actually is tested at a 40 mg per cup without having to go full on Decaf. I'm stuck with witches brew for a while! 🤣
I get good results from Community Coffee Medium or Dark roast.
ugh..I tried it...once.
I am 100% Cajun, born, raised, and still live in Houma, La. and drank Community dark my entire life, and there was NONE better. But I have to say, it is NOT the same coffee anymore, not even close to what it used to be. It is harsh now.. With it not being as smooth and flavorful as it once was, and them raising the price so much, that I had no choice but to bail out on them.
@@meauxjeaux431 I don't recall it being that expensive, but I thought it was like a commune or green or organic coffee. Tried one bag and didn't like. But then again, to each his own. Some folks like Bustelo.. to me that's the harshest nastiest stomach rotting ground dirt I ever had..
Santo Domingo coffee is the best one I've tasted
Thank you. You just saved me some money by not having to try all those. I drink Folgers, but don't like it. I'll try the McCafe instead. 👍☕
Let us know what you think!
@@myCountyMarketvideo McCafe is definitely better like you guys said! 👍 Folgers is more brute.
When almost every answer is a 6 but i'm still raising and lowering to 6's......
My favorite is Gevalia
Try Kirkland Ground in the bag, so good!
“That’s a spicy nut” -what ur girl says after you eat nothing but junk food for a month
Haha 😂
I wish you guys would try Cracker Barrel coffee, it’s really good
Thanks for the great video. I was looking to find if there is a better taste than mccafe and dunkin donuts. Now I feel that I should stick with them.
8 o’clock is an evening coffee, why it’s sweeter and lighter
I only buy Mcdonalds or Dunkin already so glad someone else agreed.
I actually really like the coffee from McDonald’s and Duncan’s. I’d like to try the differences at my house. Gunna probably be the thing I look forward too this weekend.
Mark Ochoa SAME!!
Don’t want to watch the whole thing can somebody write what was the best one
McDonald's always has good coffee I prefer it over Starbucks anydsy especially for 1$ for a large coffee you can't go wrong at all.
Do people in USA still buy eight'o'clock coffee till today??
Is eight'o'clock coffee now a big brand in USA??
@@darkknightrises3571 its not all that popular now but i remember hearing that coffee brand alot growning up though
Yea McCafé has to be the best for sure!!!
Do you guys have a sip of water between taste tests? Little aeration with some slurps might help bring out the flavor if you use a spoon.. I know this video is over 3 years old at this point lol
Also now do a creamer one with your daily coffee
Very nice video - I'm looking for a strong rich coffee that would be VERY finely ground, just a powder - any ideas? Thank you!
When a coffee has a dirty taste to it it is for me like a cheap ☕
The guy on the left looks like Robin Gibb. 🕺
Tim Hortons medium roast ground is best. All Arabica beans, no Robusta (ugh). Get it on Amazon.
Good ole Folgers !!
The McDonald's Breakfast Blend canned ground coffee is the best by far to me
Mass production coffee is never good. Big brands never can have good coffee. It could be okay but never good
wrong answer- 8 O'clock Columbian Peaks whole bean..great coffee with a unique wonderful winey/choclolatey aroma as soon as you open the bag. Great- not good.
How dose a chowing on a Christmas 🎄 feel and taste like woody and bark?
tim hortons columbian drip,green mountain k cups and McDonald’s when it’s actually bought from McDonald’s
I had In N Out Coffee with a 4x4 for Breakfast 🔥🔥
McDonald's McCafe is the bomb in a french press 👌❤️
suev33 3 which one ? I’m new to cofee but haven’t found something that is my go to buy
Whats the brand of coffee your mom drinks ?
8 o'clock coffee is the one for me
Hills Brothers not ever seen for sale in Connecticut.
Peets is the best
Took me some years to learn, but I have come to realize that good coffee can not be bought in a grocery store.
Good advice. I did notice that. Coffee Bean and Peets are sold at some stores.
@@shermano2153 Look up Brandywine coffee roasters. If you have never had them they will change the way you will think about coffee
Jessie, Brandywine looks nice but its a little far from me.
@@shermano2153 you can order them online
it will get to you days after roasting
Dark coffee does not equal more flavor...I can burn anything and call it flavorful
Dark coffee is gross
I like most of my food slightly browned, I wouldn't say it has more flavor but I like it sometimes a little burnt taste good, I have only tried a half dozen different coffees so I don't know what level of roast I like most is yet though.
It is S and S coffee. Kona blend.
Your welcome.
I've been buying instant coffee for the convenience but finding a good instant coffee is hard. So I'm going back to fresh ground and I like a Dark Roast so if you guys have any suggestions I'd appreciate it.
I'd suggest JFG med dark. I enjoy it better than most coffees.
I'd like if you compared decaf coffees.
We don't see you guys, clear your palate(s) / tongues with fresh filtered water or ( Aquafina ).
How can you guys give an honest review, when the different flavors blend together from one coffee to the next?
There are 2 basic kinds of coffee beans:
Robusto beans are more plentiful therefore less expensive and much higher in caffeine. Folgers and most of these brands are certainly robusto.
Arabica beans are not as plentiful, priced higher and much less caffeine. Starbucks, McCafe and Dunkin Donuts are Arabica beans. Arabica beans are always clearly labeled as such. If you don't see ARABICA on the label, you are drinking robusto beans. If you're looking for high caffeine, that's your bean.
WHICHHHHH STARBUCKS WAS IT??
8 o'clock The rest swamp water coffee..