Hey, guys! I would kindly ask you to read the description so you can understand why some things didn’t work out the way we intended to 😄 I know we failed with the story a bit, but we shot the entire thing in 2 days and I only had 2 days to edit this piece, anyway, let me know your thoughts on this as well as how we could improve ourselves in story-telling. I know there will be a lot of things you guys will be able to point out and I can’t wait to read the criticism! Thank you, love you all ❤️ Btw, we made the ending cheesy AF because we ran out of ideas and had no time to shoot anything else, so enjoy 😄 Also, I see this platform as a place to grow, I am far from being a professional filmmaker, so if you have any tips for me to improve my craft on, I will be more than happy to chat with you guys. Write me on IG - its.gundars.magone
Damn your camera angles ,color grading , always surprises me!!...and sirui lens are manual..you never missed focus !! Great!! Did you color grade or did you put a lut ? What is the effect called use used when she goes to dream?
The camera work is quite beautiful and you got a great image out of the A7S3. Especially the night shots, somehow you got the footage to look sharp and clean despite the absurd amount of noise reduction this camera uses at high ISOs (this is actually the main reason I sold mine as I love to film at night but hated the muddy, washed out too high noise reduction). Obviously the story needs work, I don't mind it being silly, but it doesn't make sense at the end. Is the other woman her boss, her colleague, or a friend? From the intro, it seems like Annie is talking to her boyfriend who she thinks is over-protective, that was my interpretation. So to see this girl appear at the end, and then she is asking about her car, and I'm left wondering if Annie borrowed her car then how did the other girl get to the cabin? We don't see a second car so yeah, very confusing and out of place ending. The rest of the story was fine up until that point.
A really solid short film. The dialog at the end is what killed me, I don't think it was needed. That being said, I liked the Jupiter lenses, Bokeh and the colors are really good, and the Macro... wow! chromatic aberration is kinda noticeable though, especially on those first shots at the gas station. Would love to see how you did those crazy effects. Nice job!!
Oh yeah, we literally had no time for the ending so decided to mess around a bit and make something so cheesy it would make us vommit ourselves :D But you know, it's all about having fun, so why not. The CA is definitely visible, but I actually like that about the lens, it gives a vintage-ish kind of a look to the image, but that's just personal taste! Thank you for the comment, Fled!
can you do a tutorial about how to color grade your sky to make it so vivid and vibrant, and the dreaming VFX how you pull it off? I love your work. This is an excellent job. I would love to have this type of knowledge from you.
Great job, particularly given the time you had, and doing it solo 👍 Some wonderful shots and colours, the macro capabilities of the Jupiter really add creative possibilities. Love it. Which focal length/s did you use? One reflection for me is that many of the shots in the pre-drink section are locked off, then in the forest there's much more camera movement. Then at the end there's a combination of locked off and moving shots. Was this a stylistic choice to differentiate the before-during-after I wonder? For me some of the initial stages lacked a bit of flow perhaps because there were so many cuts between static shots, and that contributed to some of the shot transitions being a bit jumpy. But having a different style for the different stages makes sense. Maybe worth differentiating between the before and after more via the grade instead and adding more of your excellent camera movement, which might aid flow. Just a thought. One analytical thought: in the dialog at the end you seem to have broken the 180 degree rule by switching sides from daughter to mother, but it kinda works. Maybe stylistic choice for contrast between mum being lit by the sun and daughter back lit? Anyways, sorry this is so long, hope the reflections are useful - all in the spirit of supporting wonderful creative endeavour 😉 Kudos for putting this out so quickly, keep at it!
Thank you so much for the CC! Honestly, when it comes to camera movement, I wanted to do it all on a tripod, but due to time constraints, at some points I was like "Fuck it" and decided to just free-flow it all, so that's my bad for sure haha, about the 180 degree rule, I completely forgot about that rule, to be honest with you. Anyway, so many mistakes made in this piece, but hey, the comments you guys give me motivate me to become better and to start noticing these little details, so thank you for that! I really appreciate you guys writing long comments like these, after all, the best way to learn is to experiment and use the advice you're given from other professionals or viewers so that you can understand others' points of view, so thank you so much for this!
Dreamduo, question: The mushroom close-ups (and rack focus from her to the closest mushrooms which appear really close to camera).. were those purely the lens itself or punch-ins in post production or .. were diopters used? If Diopters, can you recommend any to use (or specify the ones used)?
Hi, Matt! They were purely the lens themselves. The setup I had was basically bare-bones, just the Sony A7S3 with the lens and a mattebox, no additional equipment! :)
This was fun to watch. After watching the first time, then reading your description and request for comments, I can offer constructive criticism. I watched it a 2nd time as I didn't get what was happening on the first viewing. Prefacing, I found the vid while searching for reviews of the Sirui, currently on Indiegogo, so that colored my expectations going in (without reading the description first). So, I sort of expected a cutaway to a review of the lens, then realized it wasn't a review. Second viewing: I paused the video on the shot of the notebook and looked up the mushroom species, since the scenes imply that the mushroom is a hallucinogenic. The online pictures of the species do not match the drawing, so I double-checked spelling. In any event, the mushroom appears safe to eat as described in the book. So why the hallucinations? Since the dream sequence after having wine also appeared to be influenced with hallucinations (use of effects), perhaps the character is suffering from them generally. Criticisms: Was not drawn in to care about the character. There's this book called, "Save the Cat" for writers. When struggling with an idea for audience engagement, the character needs to do something, like, "save the cat." This draws the audience into sympathy for the character, as it's human nature to come to the aid of someone or something in a crisis (even trivial, like getting a cake in time for the birthday party). There's nothing that connects me to the lead character while I'm waiting for the conflict to present. For me, the short story is missing a hook, for which we see conflict and resolution. Whatever the crisis is in the character's mind, it is not presented clear enough to bond to the character and root for her, or otherwise (if she's supposed to be evil) root for her demise. Your technical execution is good as others have commented, but my sense is you're looking more at the story aspects. I did enjoy the lapse of time from day into evening. Also enjoyed the setting and sound. The opening scenes were a bit boring (as in a typical, common sequence). Perhaps if she gets called mid-stride to or from the store... and is interrupted, then shows more emotion (disdain, hurry, pain, etc.), changes her gate from slower to faster, or from faster to stopping and thinking (i.e., some change in behavior identifying something important about the call) then we wonder why. As for when the call did happen (gas station scene), there was nothing alerting as to it being out of the ordinary... just a friend making contact. All that said, this was a 2 day production, so armchair quarterbacking after the fact is so easy... FWIW. I did see some of your other review videos and always enjoy seeing you and your girlfriend teaming up to produce something fun to watch. 🙂
I agree with everything you said and thank you so, so much for the CC! I will for sure check out the book you mentioned! These are the type of comments that I am always looking for, always makes me view my own work from a completely different perspective, thank you so much! :)
Nice man ... Even though the story seems less told.. I really enjoyed the compositions and your shots... Expecting more... Why don't you use the full frame anamorphic.? Cuz I bought sirui anamorphic after watching your footage... Cheers from India
The answer will probably be the most disappointing thing ever, but, honestly, I have no idea how I did it. I didn't use any external plugins, for sure, but since I used to do animations in AE, I always find weird effects to use in my films :D I probably used displacement maps with some random distortion effects. Oh and definitely Turbulent displace, I used that effect on 90% of the clips here!
For me the shot cutting felt not so smoother, some of the shot trasitions were like a little jumpy and i can understand tge situation.....but overall other parts were good the only problem i felt in this is the incompleteness in editing and some of the shots were soo nice and i was totally into it ..... But as i said the jumpy feeling made me lost it..... Keep on going.... I like all the other things in it and i can really really understand the lack of time.... Because im also a filmmaker and we also shoot an entire 25-30 min film in 3 days and edit it in 3 days and all other technical works in short duration....i usually doea not make a comment this larger but i did it because you asked.... And i am a person who love to see what you guys create 🥰❤️
I completely agree with you! The first 2 minutes in my opinion had consistency shot wise, but afterwards everything went in such a rush that we had to scrap most of the shots in the scenes and just go with 2-3 shots in each scene 😄 thank you so much for the criticism, really good input, mate!
Shots were really good but the dialogue definitely needed some work. Also way too many cuts. We don't need 6 cuts to see the character get into a car 😅
it almost, for moments, it almost looks like a movie or netflix show. but it still has that cheese how video look. but it looks promising. but not quite there yet.
I think you challenging yourself to do a short film alone is nuts. You technically did a lot by yourself with basically nothing. After reading the description and seeing your disappointment with it is not fair to yourself. You did so much, much more than any big hollywood director could accomplish by themselves. There is a finite amount of bandwidth that can be had by single person but when you have to split it into so many roles causes you not to be able to express the details of your project. It didnt make TOO much sense, but as a film maker I know where your head is at. Imagine what you could do with 2-4 more people freeing up bandwidth and helping you tell your story?
Thank you so much for the comment, man! This really warmed up my heart! Yeah, in the filmmaking field doing something like this alone is not only frustrating, but boring as well, never again will I put so much stress on my shoulders to create something like this and will always try to get my hands on a team that will help me out with this thing. I think the hardest part was the audio, I absolutely hate recording audio on spot, rather would hire a sound guy on set because often times I would not concentrate on the visuals themselves, but the audio. And maaaan, I need to see some masterclasses on storytelling, that's where I lack the most skill
Hey, guys! I would kindly ask you to read the description so you can understand why some things didn’t work out the way we intended to 😄 I know we failed with the story a bit, but we shot the entire thing in 2 days and I only had 2 days to edit this piece, anyway, let me know your thoughts on this as well as how we could improve ourselves in story-telling. I know there will be a lot of things you guys will be able to point out and I can’t wait to read the criticism! Thank you, love you all ❤️
Btw, we made the ending cheesy AF because we ran out of ideas and had no time to shoot anything else, so enjoy 😄
Also, I see this platform as a place to grow, I am far from being a professional filmmaker, so if you have any tips for me to improve my craft on, I will be more than happy to chat with you guys. Write me on IG - its.gundars.magone
Damn your camera angles ,color grading , always surprises me!!...and sirui lens are manual..you never missed focus !! Great!!
Did you color grade or did you put a lut ?
What is the effect called use used when she goes to dream?
The camera work is quite beautiful and you got a great image out of the A7S3. Especially the night shots, somehow you got the footage to look sharp and clean despite the absurd amount of noise reduction this camera uses at high ISOs (this is actually the main reason I sold mine as I love to film at night but hated the muddy, washed out too high noise reduction). Obviously the story needs work, I don't mind it being silly, but it doesn't make sense at the end. Is the other woman her boss, her colleague, or a friend? From the intro, it seems like Annie is talking to her boyfriend who she thinks is over-protective, that was my interpretation. So to see this girl appear at the end, and then she is asking about her car, and I'm left wondering if Annie borrowed her car then how did the other girl get to the cabin? We don't see a second car so yeah, very confusing and out of place ending. The rest of the story was fine up until that point.
I think you are the best film makers ...soon your channel shall shoot boom just once...be consistent
A really solid short film. The dialog at the end is what killed me, I don't think it was needed. That being said, I liked the Jupiter lenses, Bokeh and the colors are really good, and the Macro... wow! chromatic aberration is kinda noticeable though, especially on those first shots at the gas station. Would love to see how you did those crazy effects. Nice job!!
Oh yeah, we literally had no time for the ending so decided to mess around a bit and make something so cheesy it would make us vommit ourselves :D But you know, it's all about having fun, so why not. The CA is definitely visible, but I actually like that about the lens, it gives a vintage-ish kind of a look to the image, but that's just personal taste! Thank you for the comment, Fled!
Beautiful short film 😊👍🏻👍🏻 the shots and editing are really great. Keep it up
can you do a tutorial about how to color grade your sky to make it so vivid and vibrant, and the dreaming VFX how you pull it off? I love your work. This is an excellent job. I would love to have this type of knowledge from you.
This is solid work. I liked it very much! It's worth watching! Got me hooked until the end. Congrats!
This is awsome! nice editing great job! Keep it up
This made me buy the Sirui Jupiter! Can't wait for mine to arrive.
What an amazing short film. Gorgeous and nice work
Aweasome, the sphere was insane. I like the idea of the work. Good Joob.
This looks incredible. Surely this wasn't filmed on just one lens, even a macro. Which mm or did they send you a set?
You took me on a trip! Good Work, great VFX
Very nice! What focal length did you use? 35mm?
how did you accomplish the tripping effect? was it a filter or done during the edit? Great work with the film
This is going to be why I end up buying the Jupiters someday lmao
I love the grade. Specially your sky! Amazing affordable cinema lens!
Great job, particularly given the time you had, and doing it solo 👍 Some wonderful shots and colours, the macro capabilities of the Jupiter really add creative possibilities. Love it. Which focal length/s did you use?
One reflection for me is that many of the shots in the pre-drink section are locked off, then in the forest there's much more camera movement. Then at the end there's a combination of locked off and moving shots. Was this a stylistic choice to differentiate the before-during-after I wonder? For me some of the initial stages lacked a bit of flow perhaps because there were so many cuts between static shots, and that contributed to some of the shot transitions being a bit jumpy. But having a different style for the different stages makes sense. Maybe worth differentiating between the before and after more via the grade instead and adding more of your excellent camera movement, which might aid flow. Just a thought.
One analytical thought: in the dialog at the end you seem to have broken the 180 degree rule by switching sides from daughter to mother, but it kinda works. Maybe stylistic choice for contrast between mum being lit by the sun and daughter back lit? Anyways, sorry this is so long, hope the reflections are useful - all in the spirit of supporting wonderful creative endeavour 😉
Kudos for putting this out so quickly, keep at it!
Thank you so much for the CC! Honestly, when it comes to camera movement, I wanted to do it all on a tripod, but due to time constraints, at some points I was like "Fuck it" and decided to just free-flow it all, so that's my bad for sure haha, about the 180 degree rule, I completely forgot about that rule, to be honest with you. Anyway, so many mistakes made in this piece, but hey, the comments you guys give me motivate me to become better and to start noticing these little details, so thank you for that!
I really appreciate you guys writing long comments like these, after all, the best way to learn is to experiment and use the advice you're given from other professionals or viewers so that you can understand others' points of view, so thank you so much for this!
Wow!
Looks great, did they send you the set or did you have one particular lens on the Sony for the entire shoot? 🎉
Awesome work!
I Like the Story telling and the effects are pretty nice , love it
What adapter did you use to put the lens on, since there is no E-mount version if thay lens
Dreamduo, question: The mushroom close-ups (and rack focus from her to the closest mushrooms which appear really close to camera).. were those purely the lens itself or punch-ins in post production or .. were diopters used? If Diopters, can you recommend any to use (or specify the ones used)?
Hi, Matt! They were purely the lens themselves. The setup I had was basically bare-bones, just the Sony A7S3 with the lens and a mattebox, no additional equipment! :)
Really great film, love the colors and vfx used to enhance the film! I just dropped a short film as well
When i shake my sony a7iii body, i hear a sound inside like something is loose, is it normal or ?
4:30 That effect with prism like distortion is awesome. How did you do that?
I'm also wondering that
This was fun to watch. After watching the first time, then reading your description and request for comments, I can offer constructive criticism. I watched it a 2nd time as I didn't get what was happening on the first viewing. Prefacing, I found the vid while searching for reviews of the Sirui, currently on Indiegogo, so that colored my expectations going in (without reading the description first). So, I sort of expected a cutaway to a review of the lens, then realized it wasn't a review.
Second viewing: I paused the video on the shot of the notebook and looked up the mushroom species, since the scenes imply that the mushroom is a hallucinogenic. The online pictures of the species do not match the drawing, so I double-checked spelling. In any event, the mushroom appears safe to eat as described in the book. So why the hallucinations? Since the dream sequence after having wine also appeared to be influenced with hallucinations (use of effects), perhaps the character is suffering from them generally.
Criticisms: Was not drawn in to care about the character. There's this book called, "Save the Cat" for writers. When struggling with an idea for audience engagement, the character needs to do something, like, "save the cat." This draws the audience into sympathy for the character, as it's human nature to come to the aid of someone or something in a crisis (even trivial, like getting a cake in time for the birthday party). There's nothing that connects me to the lead character while I'm waiting for the conflict to present. For me, the short story is missing a hook, for which we see conflict and resolution. Whatever the crisis is in the character's mind, it is not presented clear enough to bond to the character and root for her, or otherwise (if she's supposed to be evil) root for her demise.
Your technical execution is good as others have commented, but my sense is you're looking more at the story aspects. I did enjoy the lapse of time from day into evening. Also enjoyed the setting and sound. The opening scenes were a bit boring (as in a typical, common sequence). Perhaps if she gets called mid-stride to or from the store... and is interrupted, then shows more emotion (disdain, hurry, pain, etc.), changes her gate from slower to faster, or from faster to stopping and thinking (i.e., some change in behavior identifying something important about the call) then we wonder why. As for when the call did happen (gas station scene), there was nothing alerting as to it being out of the ordinary... just a friend making contact.
All that said, this was a 2 day production, so armchair quarterbacking after the fact is so easy... FWIW. I did see some of your other review videos and always enjoy seeing you and your girlfriend teaming up to produce something fun to watch. 🙂
thanks for the book recommendation !
I agree with everything you said and thank you so, so much for the CC! I will for sure check out the book you mentioned! These are the type of comments that I am always looking for, always makes me view my own work from a completely different perspective, thank you so much! :)
What focal length was used?
what effect did you use for the rippl blur trippy effects
I was captivated by the beautiful executed imagery but disconnected by the lack of direction & story.
Yeap, completely agree with you, that's a field I need to get better in, for sure!
Nice work🔥
Loving your complementary colors
Nice camera angles mate🤙🏼👍👍love it
amazing work!
I knew you would purchase the Jupiter lens when it came out
Come onn, tell me how? I wanna know :D
@@DreamDuoFilms lmao you love arnamophic too much
THE COLORS!!!!!!
Nice man ... Even though the story seems less told.. I really enjoyed the compositions and your shots... Expecting more... Why don't you use the full frame anamorphic.? Cuz I bought sirui anamorphic after watching your footage... Cheers from India
i liked the transition from the dream
More top notch work. 🙌
Amazing work
Visuals were super cool!
Good stuff. :)
Excellent work. Did you use adobe premiere as the first editor?
some shots she was masked out of the grade & FX im sure he used DaVinci
Great work! Beautiful colors
WTF this is sooo insanely good 🧑🚒
You guys keep killin it
hasil karya yang luar biasa keren film ini
How did you do the VFX at 2:20? That quick instance looks legendary! Displacement, with Sapphire plug ins?
The answer will probably be the most disappointing thing ever, but, honestly, I have no idea how I did it. I didn't use any external plugins, for sure, but since I used to do animations in AE, I always find weird effects to use in my films :D I probably used displacement maps with some random distortion effects. Oh and definitely Turbulent displace, I used that effect on 90% of the clips here!
Do PL lenses adapt to Sony well?
love the grading on this.
For me the shot cutting felt not so smoother, some of the shot trasitions were like a little jumpy and i can understand tge situation.....but overall other parts were good the only problem i felt in this is the incompleteness in editing and some of the shots were soo nice and i was totally into it ..... But as i said the jumpy feeling made me lost it..... Keep on going.... I like all the other things in it and i can really really understand the lack of time.... Because im also a filmmaker and we also shoot an entire 25-30 min film in 3 days and edit it in 3 days and all other technical works in short duration....i usually doea not make a comment this larger but i did it because you asked.... And i am a person who love to see what you guys create 🥰❤️
I completely agree with you! The first 2 minutes in my opinion had consistency shot wise, but afterwards everything went in such a rush that we had to scrap most of the shots in the scenes and just go with 2-3 shots in each scene 😄 thank you so much for the criticism, really good input, mate!
@@DreamDuoFilms 👍always mann 😇
@@DreamDuoFilms dont rush mate.... take the time if possible i jst really love the essence of your works😇
smooth
NICE!
superb 🎉
your work is awesome
Best in cass
👏👏👏
Shots were really good but the dialogue definitely needed some work. Also way too many cuts. We don't need 6 cuts to see the character get into a car 😅
Sooo damn good guys 🙏🏽
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Can I use your clips in my RUclips videos
Really depends on what kind of videos are we talking about
I mean that can I use your video with some edit and my voiceover for making education videos.will you allow for reuse your videos?
@@arshkr17 When it comes to educational videos, for sure! Go ahead! :)
Love the image out of this camera, but there is nothing cinematic about it.
it almost, for moments, it almost looks like a movie or netflix show. but it still has that cheese how video look. but it looks promising. but not quite there yet.
если бухло мешает работе, нафиг нужна такая работа - я правильно мораль понял?)
The issue that I see are the cuts; too fast….let them linger, allow them to tell the story.
Yeap, agree with you! Thanks for the input, man!
Awwww 🥰 i wanna Do Shrooms Now! in the Wilds! 😆 its True The Other worlds🌎 💖 And she is So Pretty 🤗
annihilation
Wow, I had completely forgotten about that movie, it was a fun watch though
I think you challenging yourself to do a short film alone is nuts. You technically did a lot by yourself with basically nothing. After reading the description and seeing your disappointment with it is not fair to yourself. You did so much, much more than any big hollywood director could accomplish by themselves. There is a finite amount of bandwidth that can be had by single person but when you have to split it into so many roles causes you not to be able to express the details of your project. It didnt make TOO much sense, but as a film maker I know where your head is at. Imagine what you could do with 2-4 more people freeing up bandwidth and helping you tell your story?
Thank you so much for the comment, man! This really warmed up my heart! Yeah, in the filmmaking field doing something like this alone is not only frustrating, but boring as well, never again will I put so much stress on my shoulders to create something like this and will always try to get my hands on a team that will help me out with this thing. I think the hardest part was the audio, I absolutely hate recording audio on spot, rather would hire a sound guy on set because often times I would not concentrate on the visuals themselves, but the audio. And maaaan, I need to see some masterclasses on storytelling, that's where I lack the most skill
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80% of shots is garbage
Thank you 😄