The Ultimate Aiming Secret
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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Yeaahh will buy some now, if the price is right 😌
When US shipping happens ill ship some. 20$ AUD extra for shipping is crazy at the moment.
You still whining about aim assistance please 😅
there any way I can invest in your business?
bought it
I just watched an ad
Was it worth
I just watched an ad too
a very cool add tho
For a few bits of rubber coating $25 absolute joke
Even if I don’t buy what he’s selling it’s still nice to just see informative content like he’s saying shit from a professional perspective who deals video games idk I just feel like that’s stuff I’d like to take into whatever I play with whether it be console keyboard or weird little rubber thingies
Fantastic.
Dont forget to send them to reviewers
And you are going to need a lot more stock I suspect...
Thanks! I've got some more materials on the way :)
If you have a 3d printer, then you can print them yourself.
@@awsome14619 It'd probably be easier to 3d print the parts to make molds and pour the silicone himself to make the actual products. Then you can use the same 3d printed parts to make multiple mold sheets and scale up indefinitely with little overhead. Silicone is very easy to mass produce with with proper molds unless the silicone he's using requires a heat treatment, which can be done but adds another step. You never want to sell a 3d printed part, you use it to make a perfect part for molds so people see your product as a manufactured part and not something they can 3d print at home.
@@StruthGamingthis seem something that dave2d would love to review! And you woukd get some really interesting leverage if he does it
Bro you crazy, $17 for these and then $14 shipping, that's laughable.
As a palm grip gamer, with a palm-friendly mouse, gravity does most of the work for me. However I can sympathise with Claw grippers and this seems like a really fantastic idea to take some of the strain off that many users might not even realise is occurring. Nice work. :)
Ha, my hands are so big that if I palm grip my fingers will hang off the front of my g502 and rub on the table. Claw gang.
I've never found a palm-grip mouse that really _fit_ for me.
The Mionix Naos 7000 was _really_ close (I mean, with grip tape applied, because the lack of texture on it was terrible), but the forward/back buttons were just way too far forward for where my thumb falls.
I'd hoped the rerelease "pro" version would have fixed that, but unfortunately it was strictly internal components changed, and the overall shape was exactly the same.
@chonkychookie6949 i prefer palm but i have huge hands so i ran into that issue alot. i feel the razer basilisk works really nively for me though, super palm friendly
What mouse do you use?
when u play apex legends u wanna be fast at aiming, palm gripping wont do it if the mouse isn't very light
Ive been doing exactly this for a year using layers of BT.L grip tape to provide angled contact points. I 100% agree that this is much better than the standard way mice are used at the moment. Great idea!
For whatever reason, I tried the grip tape, did not like it, had more luck holding onto the mouse without em. But that could be my personal preference.
Fcuk yeah dude. These have massive potential to go worldwide. Make sure you get the patent on the concept.
You don't want Razer jumping in and mass producing before you have a chance to sell them the idea.
Good luck getting a patent on a piece of rubber. 😅
@@Neomadra He can absolutely patent this design.
@@CamelSmokes23 not the concept, i've already made these lol. you can 3d print them in 2 minutes. He's not going to get a patent on triangle prisms.
@@thenry3600 on a mouse yeah he can
@@CamelSmokes23 There is almost no chance you can get a patent on that design. Even if there was a small chance, like 0.1%, making a public video about the product likely makes it unpatentable due to prior disclosure. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) provides a one-year grace period from the date of public disclosure for the inventor to file a patent application. This means that if you publicly disclose your invention, you have one year to file a patent application in the U.S. and Canada. but many other countries will not accept the grace period. so yes even if he did manage to get a design patent on a triangled piece of rubber (Again very unlikely) the patent would not extend to Europe, China or most other countries in the world! this lesson is free next time i charge about $650 hourly rate! :D
So I use a g-pro superlight, and just installed my set of ClawMate mouse mod grips. I installed mine like the XM1R with a gentle slope based on where my hand naturally sits. I trimmed the top of the thumb grip with a razer blade to allow for easier thumb to rear side button actuation for in game key binds in Call of duty. First match went 40-22 on shipment, which is slightly better than my normal KD winning the match easily for my team at 200 - 44. It will take some getting used to, but my experience so far is profound. I feel like I can loosen my death grip on the mouse, and having these in place ensures my hand is in exactly the same position over and over for muscle memory purposes. 5 Stars. Love it. The kit came with extra everything. I think im going to really love this mod.
That's great to hear mate, how are you going with them now?
SoSpacer watching this be like : A new foe has appeared
Literally just ordered from SoSpacer hahaha
Which ones do you think are better tho? SoSpacers seem a little to small to achieve biomechanic benefit.
Any experience so far ?
@@phronesis1642 Didn't tried Struth Grips but in think they will be better than SoSpacer.
I have SoSpacer Grips on 4 mice (4 each) and it add a bit of stability, i have 2 on each main click.
Personally i REALLY didn't liked them on both side of any of my mice. But it's personal preference and you can't know if u will like them or hate them without trying every placement possible (the adhesif is really great u can replace them a huge amount of time without loosing one).
Struth grips seems promising if they are enough grippy, i will try them if one day he release them on black and white (and if that happen i hope they will be available on Maxgaming ^^).
@@phronesis1642honestly have tried so spacers but been using these mouse grips n i regret spending $30 in them... feels like a waste i was looking for consistency n comfort but all it has done is provide discomfort cramps my hand and made my aim feel worse.
way cheaper tho🤔
great idea and just bought one. there are so many possibilities with such a simple mod. as someone that loves consistency like never changing sens or resolution, having a consistent locked in grip sounds so appealing
Sooooo
How is it
I also like consistency. Huge part of it is posture, it’s 24% of result for me.
any updates?
@@ZaphaPlays I do feel more locked in but I think they would have more of an impact with an ambi mouse. I'm using a dav3 and put only one of these pieces on the ring finger area and the amount of grip that I gain is just barely significant which is a testament to how good my mouse fit my hand. If I was still using the superlight I think I would've loved this product. I don't regret the purchase at all tho
Placebo cause you spent money on it@@Mouthbreather777
I've been looking for something like this for years and it's sick to see someone who has such a high amount of passion and motivation towards doing what they love in the aim community! keep up the great work and I'll definitely be following along with whatever you do next :)
oh hi arent u in sky discord :o
@@mayo0006 haha yes I'm one of her mods :3
Thank you so much for the kind words!
@@turbomeows @mayo0006 LOL HEY GUYS
OMG I KNOW YOU FROM SKY'S STREAM
i was doubtful at first. when these arrived, i let it sit on my desk for couple days. But man these things significantly improved my aim to the point it feels natural.
i have to commend you coming up with this brilliant idea. No change in mouse shape can ever replicate the feel i get from this mod. Genius
That is so great to hear.
How long did shipping take? Ive been contemplating buying but if it takes too long i would have to order it later down the line
@@PoojHoon Took 2 days to ship and 12 days to arrive here. Ordered from Canada
@@Daniel-c3x3r thank you!!
Congratulations mate!!
Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks mate, you're a legend.
Placed an order! Will be interesting to see how this plays out. :) nice design!
This looks like a pretty sick idea for claw users, I might like them but probably only at the shallowest slope. I think I like to roll my mouse on my fingers to move it up and down, right now it works just fine with grips but who knows what grip security I'm missing out on.
You do what?
but now my mouse is less aerodynamic and doesnt fit up my butt
meow 🙀🙀
^^^^^Truth
I used to stick finger holds made of a malleable adhesives like Sugru on my mice. Nice to know my idea wasn't that bad.
I used the little rubber bumpers that stop your kitchen drawers slamming when you close them! xD
i used the sticky squares people used to make 3d cards lol
That's a great idea. I have to try that.
how easy would it be to remove the sugru adhesive from the mouse again?
This is GENIUS! I wish I had this during my peak gaming time! I don't even game anymore, but THIS is so interesting. I WISH I had this. I think this is the thing that would've taken my aim towards the next level and I was already pretty good (I was the nr1. bf4 player on the global leaderboards xd).
So, I've been using these for a couple weeks now and they're great. But one problem though, I grip my mouse really hard and the tape is just not strong enough to have the rubber stay in place. I keep having to replace them only after a few days which is really annoying. I started using some stronger tape that I found off of amazon used for stuff like attaching cameras to phones, LCD screen repairs and those have been working significantly more well. It's been about a week since I put those on and they are super sturdy, haven't had to replace them. But yea @StruthGaming if you are reading my comment I suggest trying some alternatives for the tape specifically for strong grippers like myself bcuz I can imagine this will be a huge issue for some ppl.
Thanks!
Much appreciated mate, Merry Christmas :)
I am a radiant ranked player on valorant and I am going to try this, I have very odd cramping in my hands due to mice being not shaped properly for me. Thanks!
Just ordered one, Hopefully it won't take too long. Great idea. I always though that mice should be wider so you hand can be more open and relaxed. Most are designed so that you have to spend energy just holding on to the mouse. The more muscles engaged the more coordination needed.
Energy just holding the mouse? You’re probably doing something wrong or chose incompatible mouse for your hands. After reaching top 0.2% in floatclick in Aimlabs, my result is about wrist smoothness which is achieved by having consistent support of back of hand and wrist glide. Glide must be uninterrupted by mouse lifting and cover the whole aiming area with a single gliding action
@@IrrationalDelusion I agree, I'm by no means a top tier aimer however, I do know alot about hand ergonomics and coordination.
I've been a professional drummer for 34 years.
For me, my hands are 20 cm long by 10.5 cm wide. If I put my hand in a neutral position, my fingers curled, and place my hand on a ruler, the space between my thumb and pinky is 9cm.
Looking at Rocket Jumps list of top mice, the widest mouse is the Death Adder V2 at 6cm. Unfortunaetly that is a weighty mouse compared to a Death Adder V3. For me the widest feeling mous I've tried was a Cooler Master MM720, which feels great but is a garbage mouse button and sensor wise and a Razer Mamba, which is a boat anchor weight wise.
Now even with wide mice, for me I need to move my thumb or pinky in to cover the 3 cm gap between my neutral position and the sides of the mouse.
To do that I have to expend some amount of energy to have control. That level of energy is constant and there is always a signal from the brain telling the fingers to grip 3cm tighter than neutral. Granted, it's not much energy but it's more than if your hand was in a neutral position.
Your brain has to always take that signal into account when it sends any other commands to you hands. This product by Struth could help me cover the 3 cm gap I need to cover to have my hands in a neutral position.
For most people it probably doesnt matter, I look forward to trying it.
I put a piece of Lizard tape on the hump of my mouse just behind the trigger buttons so I can control things with my hand more open, I primarily use wrist, hopefully these silicone things will help even more.
@@superangrysnowman5869 Interesting take, you might be rare having wide hands with no mouses fitting properly
This is very cool and innovative!
Love how you’re actively trying to learn more about aiming mechanics and how to keep improving.
So refreshing to see someone inventing something that it new and seems logical, would love to try it. Just got done watching a video with someone that has way more subs than you and using parts from other mice to make the mouse lighter....Hoping that his audience buys into it.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Did you end up giving them a shot?
Variation of claw and fingertip user here with a Superlight. 1 with concave angle for pinkie on the right side, and this thing is brilliant. So much more stability, used to play at about 40-50 cm/360, have the same stability at about 30 cm/360 and tracking has improved instantly, Granted I have thousands of hours in fps games and aim trainers and have always min/maxed my sensitivity settings per game, this has been a game changer. I put one on the work mouse as well as I just can't use a mouse without one now. Only complaint I have is why did I not have this sooner? It's hard to get used to as I'm actively thinking about it being there, so until it becomes second nature it's a learning curve, but every benefit you can imagine it would have, it has, simple as that, can't argue with physics end of the day! 10/10
Thank you so much for the comment, it's so great to hear you're having a great time with them.
Just ordered! Going to test with the G Pro Superlight, Viper V2 Pro, G303, and Deathadder. Excited to review!
How did you go? If you'd like any help/advice on optimizing their placement just let me know.
I always thinking about ideas similar to yours to lessen the gripping issue. Glad that you have this idea that is much more simple than mine and able to make it into reality.
but what is your solution? seems complex and interesting
now i know why i have digged a hole with my fingernails into my razer viper but honestly it doesnt feel that bad gripping it that way
I noticed this recently when trying a foam grip tape its comfortable but it falls short because its following the shape of the mouse. I'm definitely making this mod to my mouse
That's actually how I first started playing around with this idea.
What if the movement of the mouse will be fully duplicated on the monitor, with the same speed, and with a correctly configured field of view relative to the person (that is, the monitor would act as a window into the game world, and not as usual, with a fisheye effect)?
After having a delivery problem, he sent me a new one ! Very nice from him, thank you again.
Glad we could get it all sorted :) Hope you're having a good time with them.
@@StruthGaming Yes, thank you! At the start, it was weird, but now I'm getting used to it, and I can feel better control. It's funny that now I'm doing something I never did before - having fun by doing 360° with my mouse, ahah
This feels like the solution that i never knew existed. I cant say that holding my mouse in claw is difficult but theres definately times where i search on elo shapes forever thinking maybe a certain side angle or width is the right solution. this makes so much sense, i hope these become a standard in the future when selling claw mice, sort of how grip tape and extra feet are now becoming a standard.
I made a mod similar to this like 7 years ago with sticky tac, I'm glad someone is bringing it into full production and with a better material haha
very nice mod! I've done this to a couple of my mice with putty so its cool to see a dedicated product for it, but I've since swapped back to palm grip. me from 1 year ago needed this tho lol!
Why switch back?
@BobRoss-hl8cm I ended up preferring and playing better with Palm grip. This only works with claw it fingertip
I am switch between palm and claw types. Using a Logitech G Pro Superlight, and due to my hands being far smaller than yours I find my claw grip to be a bit different where my pinky and ring finger are both touching the the mouse as if I am gripping onto a bottle, meaning the fingers have direct contact with the plastic and not lay sideways like in your case (Most mice I used were like that for me).
Mice are very personal preference thing same as DPI and Sensitivity in each game for each person, that's the beauty of PC gaming, you have much wider selection of adjustment when it comes to peripherals (this includes open or closed back headphones or in-ear buds). Your solution fits your fingers due to the size of the hand you have, not everyone has big hands.
None the less, AMAZING WORK!
Im sure the grip direction helps, but im so much more interested in the fact that it gives me a consistent grip location. Just bought one to test it out myself.
any update?
@@gmaynard yeah! Really dig them. Super consistent grip. My fingers lay in the same spot every time now.
Doesn't work well with my pinky but I have a much more natural tendency to a relaxed palm grip over a claw grip. But my ring finger loves it.
8/10 not necessary by any means, but can make your grip more consistent and comfortable. If you already have a comfortable grip with your mouse then there's no need.
@@nicholasgibson awesome thx for update (:
Funnily enough I use to stack grip tape to do what your product does. I'm glad you actually created something specifically for this problem. Kudos
Great! Dirt, grease and dead skin has been my go to grip till now.
lol, I have to admit that's a pretty clever way to make huge returns on some chunks of plastic
This is the first time I have been able to use my natural grip comfortably like this. Truly a game changer. My aim has never been so steady. Knocked it out of the park.
I have some feedback for an updated product. I aggressive claw with a X2-H mini so the grips are in the center of the mouse. Because my pinky is smaller I sit a little higher on the back grip and I get a less even contact. Additionally my thumb is at quite flat to the left side of the mouse because of my grip, so the grips are too high and get in the way. Because of these reasons I could use some half sized grips. Ill cut them myself so Ill figure it out but I suspect others could have similar use cases.
Oh and was there any stronger tape that you found so I can get some myself. I do not mind the color.
Thanks a bunch!
So glad to hear it! The thumb is already in a great position to grip the mouse so that one is entirely optional. There are 8 wedges so you could indeed cut some to size if you are careful. I think providing half or even third size wedges could be a great addition in the future to fine tune setups.
I have tried so many tapes at this point and these two were the most effective. If you are having troubles with them not staying put, you may need to give them more time before being gripped into. Both have bonds that improve over 72 hours, so while you should be able to use them immediately in the majority of situations, if you do have trouble you may need to wait a little longer.
If you have a wedge placed on a precarious position, you can use some extra thick tape to help buffer it. It's not pretty but it helps - gyazo.com/77d077a8849e054e342593abe0a53fea
@@StruthGaming
Yeah The thumb defiantly isnt necessary but I think Im liking the position it puts my hand in with my grip. Still need some time to be sure.
Yeah I know that leaving them longer will help so once I quadruple confirm the positions ill try give them a long time to help them bond better. Ive started using grip tape(Supergrips) from infront and up them and I think this is enough to keep them in place but I might give the thick tape behind a go also, good idea.
Hope you are able to keep up with demand!
Thanks,
Hayden.
Just came across this from Logpile's video with you and the other creators. I broke my pinky finger over a year ago and have been obsessive about finding a mouse with the right grip to accommodate my pinky not being able to bend in anymore, I recently had decided nothing existed and decided to pad out my EGG XM2we with stacked layers of grip tape to create a similar product to these wedges you made, though your solution looks better :)
no criticism, great mod, but the price is a bit over for something i can find around my house and use double sided tape to adhere. really good innovation however 👍
This is such a none issue. In all the years of gaming I have never heard anyone say, I could not aim because I lost my grip.
seems pretty cool! I might order it in the future if I feel like I need to try it.
Bought these. Shipping to the US is pretty expensive but fingertip gripping is SO MUCH more comfortable its unreal. Worth it imo.
That's great to hear mate.
I think this solves the problems that I have with mice. Grips help but as I get older my pinky has started to hurt. I think this can add enough thickness and get my pinky bank into a normal position.
Omg I've done something similar to this when I placed some of the rubber feet I bought for my keyboards onto my mouse but gave up because they didn't feel like the right shape. I totally forgot about it until now and I'm really happy someone did something with this. Will for sure be buying this.
I loved the Razer Naga's shape (especially the pre 2014 version) for exactly this reason. It has a slope that allows your ring finger to somewhat grip the mouse how the finger would normally close, and not force you to pinch the mouse sideways. This is especially helpful when you are claw gripping.
Crazy price for what this is. Find a library near you with a 3D printer or comm a 3D print shop to print you one of these, plop it on with some double-sided tape.
So your revolutionary product is... an angled piece of plastic
A red, bendy angled piece of plastic, much more sophisticated!
My friend, you are truly doing the lords work
Thank you! Nothing quite that secretive, most of my thoughts can be found on this YT channel, the KovaaKs YT channel and in some blogs I made for KovaaK's here - themeta.com/blog/
The further back in time you go some of the info/terminology may seem a little outdated.
I have much more aiming knowledge I want to share, it's simply about finding the time to create the content for it.
And a couple of videos on the Refrag YT channel like ruclips.net/video/FKgdo8Z0e_k/видео.html
This is the solution to the same problem I always thought all gaming mice have. When trying to grip air with my hand, I always knew that positioning fingers curving inwards would be the most natural and comfortable fit for stable aim, so good job for putting in the time to develop this product and putting it out there, that's genuinely 400IQ.
this is a bad solution, what's needed is totally custom-shaped mice, and curling the fingers like that also becomes unnecessary
I just received mine a couple of days ago....... these mods are absolute game changers! It takes a bit of experimentation and moving some of the mods around, but you get plenty of tape to try and perfect the positioning. Once you get the right spot, holding your mouse feels so good. 10/10
This looks like an interesting product. I might have to try them out. Would be interested to hear some reviewer's thoughts like Rocket Jump Ninja, or Boardzy.
Agreed
For big hands, these are the real deal. I tried everything before I came across these. I ordered (2) 3D printed extensions to add onto my mice and neither worked well for each mouse in the long run b/c they introduced new pains. With these little pads, I can rest my ring finger on the side and also grip. I’ve been playing around with what’s best and am close to settling on and applying the stronger tape. I don’t usually leave comments for things like these. I just wanted to find a way to say “Thank you!” beyond the sale of the product.
you are seriously underrated, hope you get big some day, btw the mod would also make the mouse slightly more ergonomic
THIS IS EXACTLY what i was looking for!
I was using that thing that are usually used under chairs to not make noise! I used to cut them to make a better shape for the mice, but this product ? This is absolutely perfect.
I bought some griptape to replace my old solution, but this one is absolutely a better choice!
So the "5 minutes of Apex tracking asmr" is with the grips? I honestly started thinking there was something going on there 😮 If so, you should use some of the clips as a promo. Its fucking insane
It was! Just about everything from March onwards was using the grips in one way or another.
I never thought about why my pinky and ring finger always got so sore after mousing about for long periods of time. It surprised me when playing powerwash simulator made my hand hurt far more than playing about any fps, but it makes sense when you think about the strain that swiping a mouse around for hours causes on that part of your hand. My wrist never even felt sore, but my hand was always cramping and its easy to see why when you realize the ergonomic nightmare that a computer mouse really is. Pretty interesting product.
this is the future iam sure
got my set and using on a viper ultimate. Coming from using ergo mice for 15 years the viper was giving me hand cramps. Clawmate totally fixed this and i can finally enjoy the mouse
I wonder what RJN would say about this? 😆
Fingertip grip a mouse made of air while you wear a sleeve, probably.
Glad & thankful your channel came in recommended; Bought 1 looking forward to trying it out
Amazing vid❤️
Great idea and clever implementation! Can't wait for a black or white colour choise.
$17 + tax and shipping? Absurd
you’re paying for the R&D as well as the materials and time, feel free to model them yourself and get someone with a 3d printer to make them out of the right stuff and ship them to you
@@seanp2k617yuh its not that bad tbh, and ofc shipping from australia isnt free.
Cheapo
A minute into the video and I instantly bought the mouse mod. I’ve always felt holding a mouse for me was awkward, so I’m excited to try this out!
How did you go? If you'd like any help/advice on optimizing their placement just let me know.
good job!
Thanks!
such a simple but useful idea. surprised no one thought of this sooner. buying this soon!
Ive been having so many problems finding a comfortable fingertip grip while maintaining control
I hope these will allow me to do thay 😊
Just got a new mouse that feels great except for the lacking pinky finger support. Definitely going to pick these up soon.
$17 for this, and that doesn't include shipping cost? I get it, it's the first on the market. But... Let's be honest. This should honestly be priced for consumers at maybe $10...
Bro doesn’t have $7 💀
@@gixxerin1693Blud does not have a good economic sense.
The lack of intuitive geometry on most the mice I use generally ends up making me put my ring finger on the right edge and tilting the mouse to the left so my pinky can push in more comfortably. Its an interesting design concept and considering that aiming is really being flushed out in the last decade especially as the miniature sport it really is. Its hard to imagine a fundamental change to the mouse that would provide obvious fast results in accuracy and controllability but that's only because that typical mouse shape is so engrained in my mind.
That tends to be the solution most claw grip users gravitate towards. Would be nice if mouse designers acknowledged that more often with sensor rotations settings in the software and higher lift off distances.
Bro over 15€??? You need to get that price down.
The price isn't really there for the materials (although they are surprisingly expensive), it's for the labor that goes into creating each pack and the years of aiming experience/testing that culminated in their development.
Will hopefully have some resellers set up in the new year to make shipping easier.
such a great idea, i like how robust it makes the mice look its funky
Cool but I'm not paying 15€ for 3 little pieces of plastic
Fair, but just to clarify it's 8 wedges of silicone. The price isn't really there for the materials (although they are surprisingly expensive), it's for the labor that goes into creating each pack and the years of aiming experience/testing that culminated in their development.
Hey, just so you know, If you take the voice over clips into audacity, you can easily remove the hum / buzzing and make the voice overs much cleaner.
Honestly I love your mouse mods. Personally I have a G502 hero wired with foam and black tape to give length and height and level out the right click button. Good for a hybrid palm claw grip. The one thing that always bothers me was the right side.
Just ordered this. I agree w/ the points in this video, and I'm really looking forward to your product! :)
Well holy shit, didn't think that a simple mod would be so effective. I especially like that my pinky now has a grip and can assist in fine tuning my aim.
Glad to hear that mate! If you'd like any help/advice on optimizing their placement just let me know.
Just ordered mine 😎
Let me know how you go! Happy to help out with setup advice/suggestions if you need it.
@@StruthGaming Being completely straightforward, I'd say the concept is definitely sound. But I would say the ClawMate itself could go through some more evolution before it would be practical for most people. Even for me, someone who is willing to spend a lot of time and effort tweaking stuff for my own comfort, I've found them to be less than ideal to properly install and orient. Part of that definitely stems from the method of application with the two types of provided tape.
If you aren't familiar with the Nitro Factory nTech Fit external foam mouse grip extensions, I'd say those would be a good thing to look at. If you could produce something somewhere inbetween the nTech Fit and the current ClawMates, that might become the superior design.
Really am not trying to be a total buzzkill/overly critical here. I really do think you've already made something great, but at the same time I genuinely think ClawMate has a little bit to go in terms of practicality/ease of use.
Side note: On the unlisted instructions video I saw comments referencing a Discord link that wasn't working. Is the Discord limited to channel members only? Kind of a bummer if so, I think myself and others who purchased would have been able to make good use of a place to discuss and share ideas on how best to use these.
Wish you the best in your pursuit of this either way.
What an awesome idea! I hope you get a lot of orders and lately sell the idea to some major gaming peripherals manufacturer if thats your final goal.
Thank you!
Bro, I think this is a game-changer, I hope to God you've patented this. You deserve all the money coming your way!
Thanks for releasing these! Looks like one of those WHY NOT YEARS AGO PRODUCTS!
Subbed at your intro, what a cool job!
this is probably the best way for haveing a good hold on my finger tip hold. just orderd it to EU lets see how good its gonna improve my aim. good job.
This is the exact thing I have been looking for. Ordered them and cannot wait to use them. Cannot wait until these are standard within the aiming community
Can u give a short review when u get them?
How did you go? If you'd like any help/advice on optimizing their placement just let me know.
Im gonna cry im so happy i found this video. I feel like this is an issue I've just accepted as fate for my hadns. Im tooo excted for my just purchased set to come to me. Love you
I'm using the clawmate with the hsk pro 4k and, in my opinion, the mouse isn't usable without the clawmate. This is my ideal mouse size but the grip is just dogass. What was happening to me is this: when aiming I would feel that certain angles were impossible or extremely awkward. My brain would subconsciously not go for certain angles because it knew it couldn't hit them. I'm back in Apex after a prolonged IRL break and it's getting me a consistent 160+ with the r99 (mid) and consistent 100 from range (long). Tracking IS affected by the grip, but there are a lot of other factors as well that you have to be self-aware of. The main difference is tracking with the wrist or even fingertips is so much easier and fine-tuned. I DO need to put my setup to a real test and aim for high rank in Apex / other games, but it's slow because I'm not a student anymore. I'm just judging by my beams, flicks, and feel.
If anyone ends up ordering the Clawmate: do not hesitate to pull out a straight razor and 'mod' the angles on the rubber wedges. I played around with them without cutting for a long time and they were at most a small improvement. To actually target my specific problems during tracking, I had no choice but to modify the angles of the wedges. I am so glad I did this. From that point on I felt like a hundred new angles were unlocked in my hand and now any angle feels natural to flick and track on. You really need to hard analyze your specific problems that your fingertips face on the mouse to do this though. If something 'feels' off with the mouse, fix it with clawmate.
Additional notes: I also use the included rubber grips with the hsk pro 4k, mo42 ceramic feet, and the endgame MPC450 mousepad. I also run RawAccel with a rotation offset and linear acceleration.
someone with a budget and a amazing mind finally said it. I swear I thought I was the only one who thought the same of gaming mice. I've owned like 10 of them and none of them are endgame. There was something always off and you finally defined it. You definitely have my support man. I hope the sales shoot to the roof!
bro how many title changes hahaha.
Struth man youre legit nuts, would you be keen to have a chat and find some ways to minmax my current mouse setup. I made some bootleg clawmates with mirror mounting tape (also the one you did in the latest video), i love it man, I'm hooked on the idea, could get some kind of collab going :)
I use both palm and claw grip. I use palm grip ~ 100% of the time I play cs:go and other lower-sensitivity fps games, unless my hand slips. I also use claw grip and play osu at a high level, but the long, precise patterns of difficult maps lead me to bending my thumb in and squeezing inwards to the point it could easily cause hand injury if I were to continue, even though I take breaks ~ every 15-20 minutes. I want to be able to use claw grip for fast, high edpi gameplay without hurting my thumb by forcing into the side of my mouse. This product seems like an absolute life saver, and I will be ordering one. I'm excited to see how it performs.
Let me know how you go! Happy to help out with setup advice/suggestions if you need it.
Still waiting for mine! Bought them as soon as I saw this video, i think they will help alot.
Hi mate, just checking in that they did in fact arrive? If you'd like any help/advice on optimizing their placement just let me know.
@@StruthGaming yeah it did arrive, I unfortunately found myself struggling with the placements.
I’m thinking of cutting one of the grips in half, because I already have a great grip on my Superlight, and just need some anti-slip properties on certain points.
(The thin black grips that came with wore out after like 5-6 months.)
I haven’t been able to play that much the past month so I’ve only spent about a week experimenting.
Kinda forgot, so I’ll try again and I will give you my feedback.
Looked interesting, saw you were an Aussie and immediately bought to support! Good stuff mate!
I just heard your introduction for the video and I was like, this is the right channel for me. Great content! New sub here.
If you look at the naga epic from around 2012 they tackled this problem, with customizable lateral side magnetic clips for better grip.
Are you thinking about making a version with the top area of such pieces bigger than the bottom one? That shall help with the raising efforts. Due my CTS my hands burns during gameplays and 90% of the cause is the effort to grab the mouse enough to lift it appropriately when needed (I play with a very high sens so I do pretty little mouse raising). I will be looking for a version of it that helps even more with the raising part of the mouse handling.
And if you just wanna try it out and see if it works, just try with blue-tack! Not suited for sustained playing but gives you the base idea and OMG is it a step forward!
Great idea, I started out by stacking double sided tape on the side of my mouse.
Just ordered one! Out of pure curiousity and just because uhm.. like u said.. been looking for a natural grip style with so much mice and stuff for ages. Best greetings from germany to THE aimgoat
Such a rad concept. I can't wait to try these out.
This sort of made me understand why it feels better gripping the mouse at a 30 degree angle or so so my ring and pinky have more of a flat surface to get the pads of my fingertips securely placed on. Cool product
My biggest issue is that there is pretty much no mouse that is comfortably to hold in a 1-2-2 grip.
But I really like the idea of a simple stick-on option to improve ergonomics. Tweaking the mouse to fit your hand without having to rely to some wild diy option.
It is quite remarkable how much the addition of a few wedges can transform how a mouse feels and performs. I recently posted a review of the Kysona M600 that showcased it too.
just buy a clay, make what you want, 3d scan it, clean, 3d print or make from carbon fibre, today is freakin easy and cheap
if you doesn't know something, just google and watch the videos!