I was one year old when this happened lol born in 86 sad i missed the 80s as the 90s was not as good , sadly the 2020s current day is the worst decade due to Covid and all that nonsense
When the Sierra first showed up, I had just started working and it was a car I really wanted, but then I found out they only exported them to New Zealand. I mean what an opportunity lost! Now they are so rare in Australia that a frame for a Sierra costs $25,000.
dam im in usa there is a sierra just sitting in an old mans yard about 20 minutes from my house.. been there for about 6 years an has never moved... its perfect shape to even the paint is flawless.... i guess the old man dont have money to fix it.. i bet 5,000 cash he would sell it.
@@harrisionstan3773 - the rules were written in 1981 the year before Group A started. So everyone had the opportunity to build a car to the rule set . The Holden , who don’t exist anymore , was a homologation special. 500 only built , so it’s dumb and does not make sense to say the rules were written to suit the sierra when the sierra did not exist when the rules were written. Ford Australia in 1978, totally pulled out of racing in Australia because of the corruption by cams throughout the 1970’s .So no way could they race a falcon because it wasn’t homologated to race. The biggest mistake Ford made was sign a contract with Garrett turbochargers. Cosworth wanted the Holset turbo which gave little lag and more early reliable power which on a track like Bathurst outdoor have been good for 2 to 3.5 seconds per lap. The pushrod engine were very limited , Holden , should have used a 32 valve 4 cam with EFI which would have taken the power of the Holden 400hp -440hp to 550hp to 590hp. You have to remember 1986 holden were bailed out of receivership by GM , who said they will never bail out Holden again . This promise was kept now holden is on the scrap heap. Group A was an international class , so Cams couldn’t change the rules to help Holden until 1990 .
traction control has really killed it for me, now its computer programmer vs computer programmer and the driver/rider matters less and less every day :/ sure its faster but i like the antics of human operators!
When sexism was better in TV network commentating when the women were sexy and skinny and the men were fat and ugly now its the men are thin and the women are fat and or pregnant
600?? Not in 1987, not by a long shot. Back then DJR was still relying on Rouse technology. It wasn't until Neal Lowe started to do in-house tuning and engine management work at the back end of 1987 (about 3 months after this race) and into 1988 that they started getting upwards of 550+ out of the Sierra's. Reliable 600 that didn't constantly blow turbos and engines didn't come until about 1990 and beyond.
In 1987 , 450hp is about right . Over the summer into 1988 , Neil Lowe done some Bosch ECU training and Learnt how to do chips for the Bosch 1.7mp . During 1988 the Shell cars had a reliable 550hp- and 600 hp when he won 1989 Bathurst. It was until 1992 they used 680hp-700plus in the Bathurst top 10 shootout he won with a 2m12:8. 1987 Eggenberger & 1988 to 1989 I was in the Moffat / Eggenberger pits - Rudi preferred to speak German , as I speak German .
Bloody hell! Those are magic days ill never forget. And the names. It all comes flooding back
Great to see that little montage about Denny hulme I never knew he died only 5yrs later during Bathurst of a heart attack
What a beautiful take back in time. Awesome classics out on that track
I was one year old when this happened lol born in 86 sad i missed the 80s as the 90s was not as good , sadly the 2020s current day is the worst decade due to Covid and all that nonsense
This was that race that started my life long hatred of the Sierra. Half the reason I loved the R32 was the way it shoved it right up that hated car.
When the Sierra first showed up, I had just started working and it was a car I really wanted, but then I found out they only exported them to New Zealand. I mean what an opportunity lost! Now they are so rare in Australia that a frame for a Sierra costs $25,000.
jason crane : in England an RS500 sold for £ 130,000 or about $260,000.
dam im in usa there is a sierra just sitting in an old mans yard about 20 minutes from my house.. been there for about 6 years an has never moved... its perfect shape to even the paint is flawless.... i guess the old man dont have money to fix it.. i bet 5,000 cash he would sell it.
What is the name of the song that they used when Peter brock spun in the sand trap
Welcome To The Pleasuredome by Frankie Goes To Hollywood.
I love watching the Fords make the Holdens look like a block of flats.
What do you expect when the rules were biased in their favour? And where where the Falcons?
@@harrisionstan3773 - the rules were written in 1981 the year before Group A started. So everyone had the opportunity to build a car to the rule set . The Holden , who don’t exist anymore , was a homologation special. 500 only built , so it’s dumb and does not make sense to say the rules were written to suit the sierra when the sierra did not exist when the rules were written. Ford Australia in 1978, totally pulled out of racing in Australia because of the corruption by cams throughout the 1970’s .So no way could they race a falcon because it wasn’t homologated to race. The biggest mistake Ford made was sign a contract with Garrett turbochargers. Cosworth wanted the Holset turbo which gave little lag and more early reliable power which on a track like Bathurst outdoor have been good for 2 to 3.5 seconds per lap. The pushrod engine were very limited , Holden , should have used a 32 valve 4 cam with EFI which would have taken the power of the Holden 400hp -440hp to 550hp to 590hp. You have to remember 1986 holden were bailed out of receivership by GM , who said they will never bail out Holden again . This promise was kept now holden is on the scrap heap.
Group A was an international class , so Cams couldn’t change the rules to help Holden until 1990 .
Rubbish! unfair rules including their own spec of fuel!
What a great race,really enjoyed it..shame about that annoying clicking sound coming in with the commentary though :-)
This was real racing not like today
Wish They Just raced stock cars with a few upgrades but these days they're the basically same cars the v8 utes used to be good
traction control has really killed it for me, now its computer programmer vs computer programmer and the driver/rider matters less and less every day :/ sure its faster but i like the antics of human operators!
@@byloyuripka9624 agreed. The tech is supposed to support the human not the other way around.
When sexism was better in TV network commentating when the women were sexy and skinny and the men were fat and ugly now its the men are thin and the women are fat and or pregnant
And no promo chicks due to wet blanket, woke media!
The good old days.
Yup up up up up up up
wasn't the track safety at its finest back than i can't believe brock didn't die back than
Sierra RS500 was like 100bhp more powerful than everything else LOL
Dark days. Dominated by cars that wern't even available here. Regulations designed to hobble larger cars. Good riddennce to it when it went tits up.
Lol... the fear of a common engine, silhouette chassis touring car class. FF to now days boring premier category in Oz.
Sierra 450 hp 😂bullshit, 600 and Johnson knew it.
In qual/sprint races maybe but not endurance.
600?? Not in 1987, not by a long shot. Back then DJR was still relying on Rouse technology. It wasn't until Neal Lowe started to do in-house tuning and engine management work at the back end of 1987 (about 3 months after this race) and into 1988 that they started getting upwards of 550+ out of the Sierra's. Reliable 600 that didn't constantly blow turbos and engines didn't come until about 1990 and beyond.
@@Holden308 ...just in time to be eaten by the R32.
In 1987 , 450hp is about right . Over the summer into 1988 , Neil Lowe done some Bosch ECU training and Learnt how to do chips for the Bosch 1.7mp . During 1988 the Shell cars had a reliable 550hp- and 600 hp when he won 1989 Bathurst. It was until 1992 they used 680hp-700plus in the Bathurst top 10 shootout he won with a 2m12:8.
1987 Eggenberger & 1988 to 1989 I was in the Moffat / Eggenberger pits - Rudi preferred to speak German , as I speak German .