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It seems probably by design intended for BadGear series. Interesting strategy by Korg :) I considered buying this one despite everything, but the price is somehow not suitable.
I have an OG KingKorg, and it's a really great synth. It's so slept on that it's cheap. It's the simplest synth I have to make new sounds on, no need for shoddy usb drivers or paid for editor apps just to make a simple bass. Also the plethora of filter models don't require a cloud subscription! I don't know why the neo got rid of the best part, you NEED the tube in that synth, it'd be an easy slam dunk to put in a NuTube at the least
It's always with the massive or tiny name references, right? It's always the KING Korg, ULTRAnova, the Roland Jupiter, the Moog GRANDmother and Matriarch... and then the Microfreak, the Mininova, the Microkorg... Is there no market for the Roland Regular, the Middle-ground Korg, the Moog Mom?
Too soon, bro, too soon. This color scheme reminds me of having my tooth pulled out two days ago. I hope it comes with the built-in 5ms midi latency so it can sync with the rest of the new Korg products 👀😂
Lol 5ms, PCI audio interfaces from 25 years ago could already do 1ms and under at full CPU load. 😂 USB itself isn't the problem either. The protocol allows for latency in the range of a few dozen microseconds. It's all a matter of proper drivers. Oldschool 80s MIDI itself has a native latency of 1ms per note or message, so that isn't it either.
@@ropeburn6684 I’m still going strong with my 2 focusrite FireWire interfaces because it’s so fast and capable of higher bandwidth. Not looking forward to the eventual inevitable upgrade to an apple silicon Mac with no FW support, resulting in a requirement to overhaul my entire set up, and dropping way too much cash to get a comparable product with USB/ thunderbolt. I’m going to milk this one as dry as I can
Honestly I assume it's so people will view $600-700 "sales" as good (or better) value when it inevitably happens. Even though that is still arguably too much, which most buyers know - the Opsix $650 had many people waiting until they were $300-400. If they just came right out at $450-500 like they should (and like the microKORG originally did) then there wouldn't be much room for "discounts", or various resellers' cuts. Sigh.
Amateur noodler? You're the most prolific music creator I've found on the web! Your humility is second only to your realism. Keep on rockin' Brother! (P.S. Loved the Godzilla montage.)
A typical meeting of the board of directors of any synth company lately: Agenda: Find a way to end up on Florian's list and in a thousand memes. Rinse and repeat.
This is an odd one. My guess is that this is meant to be a step up for non-synthesists who want to step up from the MicroKorg; It doesn't have the deepest engine in the world, but everything sounds really good without a huge amount of effort and it has really nice vocoder. It does a lot, it sounds good, it's fairly easy...I can imagine a market for it, but that price. Oooooof.
For live add-on keyboard, it would be (and is) peachy. Not every keyboard player needs to program his or hers ass off to blast in a band. Sometimes, a few controls to adapt a preset is more than dandy. I've seen kingkorg's (which, by the way, remind me of the bread my mam used to buy in the 70th named kingkorn) on stage a few times.
For that price, there are far better options, and some of those options come from Korg themselves. You can get an Op-Six or a Wavestate for less than that.
I have to say, the bass in the jams was very solid and impressive. And the vocoder seemed really nice. But - yeah.... the price... that price. Is the white on white color scheme maybe a clue? Are they maybe filled with an addictive white powder? That would at least make some sense.
If you're in a cover band, you will be hard pressed to find a better synth for concerts. Most presets are recreations of classic songs. That's how they sold the original unit.
your first jams lately are hitting it out of the park 😎👍🏻....second jam was very nice and intricate as well...the final jam was almost cinematic (really polished) and loved the vintage Godzilla choice 😁...ofc I'm here for the layers 🥰😍...thanks for the cool shoutout 😁🤩
I fully agree about the opportunity for the SE to be a multi engine synth combining opsix, modwave and wavestate engines. The VST versions show how similar they all are and it wouldn't be that big a deal to merge the physical controls and allow the engine to switch between each one. I'm also very much wondering if multi timbral is going to come back into fashion. With external sequencer boxes becoming more popular, being able to play multiple timbres from synths with 24+ note polyphony would make them more worth the price. My last Korg was an X3 and that could do 16 different tones at once. I miss that.
Absolutely. Doubling the polyphony in mk2/SE instead of allowing for two engines at once seems a bit weird. Reminds me of Elektron's artificial product segmentation. Especially since Korg pushed bitimbrality very early-on in their history and kept at it for quite a long time.
I have to disagree a bit as an owner of the 3. They have radically different sound engines and are already monsters of menu diving (for Modwave and Wavestate). I can't imagine a shared interface for the 3...
The best keyboard solo of the last decade was played on a King Korg. Corey Henry used one for 'Snarky Puppy - Lingus (We Like It Here)". 35 million RUclips views and counting.
I'm glad i still got my korg dw 6000 in the basement somewhere. I don't know why i still have it but when i see new releases like this, i remeber i still have the dw 6000 just in case
Korg's biggest miss is not taking the OP6 and/or the Wavestate and throwing them into a 12 track groovebox. I mean, it's right there. Call them the synthtribes or something.
I’ve been buying synthesizers for decades, and the king Korg announcement was the first one that made me actually laugh out loud. Who is this synthesizer for? It doesn’t make any sense. Stage performers want more keys and synth nerds want more controls. This one doesn’t make any of those people happy and then they slap $1000 price tag on it. I look forward to finding one someday at a going out of business bricks, and mortar store for 100 bucks. I still won’t buy it, but I’ll take a picture for my Instagram and caption it ” hey remember these?”
Loving the ancient computer delivery meme. It was delivered to my local (Norwich City uk) Council in 1957. It was an Elliott 405 computer. There were 20 more of those boxes. Memory was stored on paper punched reels for its first year of operations before they changed over to using magnetic tape. 😆
Despite how juicy and alluring that vocoder section on the Tonys, I still don’t regret having purchased one of the other budget synthesizers you mentioned in the thumbnails, AP, the Hydrasynth Explorer. There are still several patches I want to write on that thing, and I still have not learned all of its interface to make those patches come up, but I still don’t regret having purchased it, even if I had known this model existed before making that purchase. What would be needed if I could lay hands on a vocoder module to supplement the Hydrasynth,
What golden words - it IS fail to the king! King Korg was absolutely unique (yes, I double dare one to find valve tube synth of today's sad times) and to get this horrible nothing was another low blow from Korg - another one after Electribe 2S. This showed me one thing - it's not a fair mistake, it's a pattern of damaged mentality. The only good thing about Korg these days is the lovely Natalie.
Patiently waiting for it to drop to $349… it’s not a bad synth for that price, but I cannot understand how it costs more than the opsix/modwave/wavestate. Even those should be under $500…
Wavestate is pretty close to being a workstation ROMpler, and for under $500 is an over-the-top ludicrous demand. Not even the Yamaha MX49 is that cheap except second-hand, and it doesn't compete with Wavestate in sound at all but at least offers a better and bigger keybed. Krome EX and MODX6 are more comparable in sound to Wavestate. I'm hoping that Akai, Native Instruments, and Behringer manage to shake things up in our favor in the near future.
1099,-? They should visit the doctor and raise the dose of what ever they are taking. I would not pay 300,-. For just 50,- more you get a ASM Hydrasynth. And we all know they are worlds apart.
I'm actually pretty impressed with how well the sounds of the kingkorg play well together with itself. It still feels a bit pricey for what it is though.
Who have expected that Korg did this after 10 years of technology progress and brings a clone with less features but same price… wait, I’m getting cloning my own texts - that’s weird 😮
What technology progress have they made? Most of their recent synths are just reissues/reimagining of existing tech. The last thing they made that I found truly interesting was the Monotribe and then they never followed that up with a worthy successor.
My theory is, Korg accidentally added an extra zero on the quantity when ordering the chassises for the Modwave/Wavestate/Opsix and were like “Shit, what can we quickly cram in these extras? Oh, old VA with a tube, cool just drop the tube part.”
@@AudioPilz If you actually put in a high(er) end tube in one of those ESX electribe's, it sounds incredible! Funny how they are selling second hand for around 3 times what they newer model sells for. Korg still not picking up the hints though ;)
Dieser Mann sagt nur die Wahrheit! Gut gemacht. Not long after this synth was announced, I learned: 1) it had the same not-so-hot keyboard action as all of Korg's similarly sized synths (Modwave, Opsix, etc), 2) it changed almost nothing from the previous KingKORG engine, and 3) the price was significantly higher than expected (and definitely higher than a used OG, FS KingKORG). Best thing about this release? Used prices on the OG, FS KingKORG dropped, and I picked one up for an even better price. Makes a great live synth (minus the wall wart power supply) with respectable VA poly and mono synth tones. Suggestion to Korg: How about a 16-voice VA based on the MS-2000/MicroKORG engine?? Add a quality keybed like the UNO Synth Pro, and it would sell like crazy, I'm pretty sure. Edit: and I just saw at the end of the video you suggested almost the exact same thing for Korg. Let's hope they listen.
the hard sync and the MS20 filter sound good to my ears but yeah.... roasting fully deserved... price tag super crazy and it all leaves me with one word... why? It's just a rehash of their old crap. Loved the part with the dinos shooting lightning out of their mouths.
It’s a tad of of left field perhaps, but, Apple’s MainStage definitely had the amount of hate for it to quality as “bad gear”, though, from an entirely different demographic than the normal one for this show
The KingKorg engine sounds phenomenal, i just wish they'd put it in an MS-2000 style knobby interface. Also as cool as the PS-3300 is I'd like an Omni Mk2 reissue.
I had an original and used it live quite a bit. It had a place. But in the studio it was pretty rubbish. Sold it for fairly little about a year ago. Why korg have decided to make this is beyond me
Have you noticed that Korg has been using the chassis of the ms2000 with different die cuts for the interface installation? I had the ms when it was new, had to have it serviced then, and the repair person was like”the board in this is only 3”x13”. The keyboards this size are primarily empty space inside, there is a metaphor possibly also contained inside them with that…😂
I watched a video recently of Roger Linn playing with a new MPC. He had a Linnstrument hooked up. Despite literally designing most of the gear he was using, he churned out a cringey, horrible jam that sounded like an 8-bit hot dog cart ad, and not in a good way. Meanwhile, superspy Florian Pilz can grab any two pieces of garbage manufactured in the last twenty years and absolutely melt faces off, all while getting more handsome every week. I don't know what alchemy sustains you, Florian, but I hope no one else ever finds out.
@@unclemick-synths Insubordinate AND churlish. But yeah, point taken. I love Roger's work and his terrible jam has not diminished my enthusiasm for what he created. Leo Fender could barely play guitar or bass, didn't hold him back at all.
Microkorg 2 should have had Granular Synthesis and FM. Seems to me they're starting to churn out one Wavetable rompler after another these days. The joystick looks as cheap as the one on my microKey Air which fly's off if you blow on it :D
The fact that mK 2 is twice the price of the original alone just shows how much they missed the mark on it. mK 1 was many people's first synth, and was the synth I wanted for about a decade before I started my synth set up. The price is too off putting for first time buyers and seems to be relying on the nostalgia aspect, which it misses because it's not _the_ microKorg (how many people care about the mK XL for example?). They can throw in all the new fancy gimmicks that new technology allows for but if it's expensive then who cares about them??
The original KK was too expensive & gimmicky and lacking (no aftertouch), and was overshadowed by Korg's reissue of the MS-20. But its synth emulation (esp Minimoog) was actually quite good. This synth with the same name is just marketing nonsense grafted onto an aging synth platform. Tatsuya left Japan for Berlin right around the time this thing was being designed by others... and it shows.
You sum it up so well! Korg inspires me with their engines. But their hardware is no fun and the integration into the studio only works halfway flawlessly with the old midi stuff. In my opinion, Korg is giving away so much potential.
I dig the sound of it, but I'm left wondering how it really differes that much from my Microfreak. Certainly not several hundred quid more. And that control panel - that's not a design, that's a dump without any thought. It's such a shame to see synths like this in this day and age as Korg REALLY should know better. With more refinement and care they could have perhaps turned out something more down to earth in pricing or maybe something more pricey yet more complete.
I remember the times when I lost interest in synthesizers. About 1994, when every synth sounded the same, and no innovation was to be found. Today, the same. Maybe I need another 20 years to discover that todays synths are great. Until then I hope my Roland budget stuff doesn't fall apart.
@@AudioPilz I believe it's been a few years now. Maybe Korg is like a cat? Out for world dominance in the music world. I guess they'll have to compete with Uli though...
Having owned a kingkorg for a little bit, I would actually be into this update, if it was about 699-799...😂 but in prime Korg fashion, it's well overpriced...
Really this was underwhelming (talking about the synth)... At least the Roland Jupiter XM (that was also underwhelming and pricey) was hands-on (kinda)!
"The function of the One is now to menu dive to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 waveforms, 16 samples, 7 analogs, and from those create a patch. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash."
While the world raving about Espen Kraft's attempt to bad gearing bad gear, the disciples of the real Bad Gear are riding slowly on the caramels back in the hot desert to the oasis where real Bad Gear prophet will hold yet another messianic Bad Gear preach. Oh mighty lord of Bad Gear we obey you and cherish you.
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Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but $1000 ought to get you a full 61-key machine with aftertouch.
Word!!!
Or at least a decent 4/5 octave keybed and build.
ASM hydrosynth deluxe- used. That’s my next GAS!
I mean you can buy kontakt s61 which is infinitely better than this korg
I was actually preparing myself to want one till that bombshell dropped.
The KingKorg Neo was always going to end up in the BadGear Matrix
Totally!!!
@@AudioPilz Morpheus! Is that you?
It seems probably by design intended for BadGear series. Interesting strategy by Korg :) I considered buying this one despite everything, but the price is somehow not suitable.
“what happened, happened and couldn't have happened any other way.”
I have an OG KingKorg, and it's a really great synth. It's so slept on that it's cheap. It's the simplest synth I have to make new sounds on, no need for shoddy usb drivers or paid for editor apps just to make a simple bass. Also the plethora of filter models don't require a cloud subscription! I don't know why the neo got rid of the best part, you NEED the tube in that synth, it'd be an easy slam dunk to put in a NuTube at the least
Love the R&D tip. Please include those in ALL future videos. Please reshape these manufacturers brains.
I should definitely charge for this;)
You’ll make a fortune!
Korg R&D be like "What nostalgia can we weaponize against a consumer bracket has some money now but doesn't have kids or house payments yet?"
I've been saying this for years, who doesn't want to play fm'd wave tables with vector controls?
The synthesiser no one asked for… like the Juno D
So true!
HS 60
Just send the drawings to Music Tribe City and they will produce it for, how much? 50 bucks a unit MOQ 10.000?
I loved the Juno D
I love your videos man, the quality of them is absolutely insane!
Thank you so much!!!
It's always with the massive or tiny name references, right? It's always the KING Korg, ULTRAnova, the Roland Jupiter, the Moog GRANDmother and Matriarch... and then the Microfreak, the Mininova, the Microkorg...
Is there no market for the Roland Regular, the Middle-ground Korg, the Moog Mom?
Being mid is not exactly very desirable atm
The Moom 😂
Mommy Moogy Milkers?
Moog Granddaughter
The oberheim next door
This thing is proof that we will never run out of bad gear even in 2025
Never!!!
Godzilla and drum n bass is a perfect combination
Absolutely!!!
Too soon, bro, too soon. This color scheme reminds me of having my tooth pulled out two days ago. I hope it comes with the built-in 5ms midi latency so it can sync with the rest of the new Korg products 👀😂
Ah, love that ecosystem;)
Oh god you are right. If this was in a room with a medical machine i wouldnt even notice it haha
@@Mr.Marbles It's happening again!🦷😷😂
Lol 5ms, PCI audio interfaces from 25 years ago could already do 1ms and under at full CPU load. 😂
USB itself isn't the problem either. The protocol allows for latency in the range of a few dozen microseconds. It's all a matter of proper drivers. Oldschool 80s MIDI itself has a native latency of 1ms per note or message, so that isn't it either.
@@ropeburn6684 I’m still going strong with my 2 focusrite FireWire interfaces because it’s so fast and capable of higher bandwidth. Not looking forward to the eventual inevitable upgrade to an apple silicon Mac with no FW support, resulting in a requirement to overhaul my entire set up, and dropping way too much cash to get a comparable product with USB/ thunderbolt. I’m going to milk this one as dry as I can
I really LOLd at the price reveal. Wow wow wow, some day I want to be as optimistic as the person responsible for KORGs pricing... 😂
I assume there is some method to the madness...
Honestly I assume it's so people will view $600-700 "sales" as good (or better) value when it inevitably happens. Even though that is still arguably too much, which most buyers know - the Opsix $650 had many people waiting until they were $300-400. If they just came right out at $450-500 like they should (and like the microKORG originally did) then there wouldn't be much room for "discounts", or various resellers' cuts. Sigh.
I was looking at the Kaoss sampler until I realised I could get an SP AND a Blackbox for roughly the same price and still have change for catfood.
Amateur noodler? You're the most prolific music creator I've found on the web! Your humility is second only to your realism. Keep on rockin' Brother! (P.S. Loved the Godzilla montage.)
Thank you so much!!!
He was talking about his cooking channel. 😁
@@treetopjones737 🤣
Bro 1000$????? Korg has got to get off this style of hardware and wake up.
Yeah, that pricing is insane
They're deliberately giving Roland the Pepsi challenge.
@@AudioPilz The Minilogue XD is cheaper and way more fun
I'm at the point now where hardware synths are making me miss VSTi's.
Huge ripoff
nice, time to warm up the rewind and pause button lol
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Korg, listen to this man- all 3 "Wave" synths in one 61 key unit is all we really want from ya at this point.
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Since they're all basically software in a box, I'd go the MIDI controller + vst route for this
Stuff like this makes me realize there is a clear divide between instruments made for musicians and instruments made for profit.
Wise words!
A typical meeting of the board of directors of any synth company lately:
Agenda: Find a way to end up on Florian's list and in a thousand memes. Rinse and repeat.
😂😂😂
This is an odd one. My guess is that this is meant to be a step up for non-synthesists who want to step up from the MicroKorg; It doesn't have the deepest engine in the world, but everything sounds really good without a huge amount of effort and it has really nice vocoder. It does a lot, it sounds good, it's fairly easy...I can imagine a market for it, but that price. Oooooof.
Interesting angle...
For live add-on keyboard, it would be (and is) peachy. Not every keyboard player needs to program his or hers ass off to blast in a band. Sometimes, a few controls to adapt a preset is more than dandy. I've seen kingkorg's (which, by the way, remind me of the bread my mam used to buy in the 70th named kingkorn) on stage a few times.
For that price, there are far better options, and some of those options come from Korg themselves. You can get an Op-Six or a Wavestate for less than that.
I have to say, the bass in the jams was very solid and impressive. And the vocoder seemed really nice. But - yeah.... the price... that price.
Is the white on white color scheme maybe a clue? Are they maybe filled with an addictive white powder? That would at least make some sense.
If you're in a cover band, you will be hard pressed to find a better synth for concerts. Most presets are recreations of classic songs. That's how they sold the original unit.
Happiest of weekend my dude! Thank you for another great episode
Thank you!!!
It's the biggest volca a man could ever ask for
lol
Will it fit up there like the other volcas?
@@repetitivebeats8635 I doubt that seriously.
volcas have sequencers
@@htechdance 😂
your first jams lately are hitting it out of the park 😎👍🏻....second jam was very nice and intricate as well...the final jam was almost cinematic (really polished) and loved the vintage Godzilla choice 😁...ofc I'm here for the layers 🥰😍...thanks for the cool shoutout 😁🤩
Thank you so much!!!
I fully agree about the opportunity for the SE to be a multi engine synth combining opsix, modwave and wavestate engines. The VST versions show how similar they all are and it wouldn't be that big a deal to merge the physical controls and allow the engine to switch between each one. I'm also very much wondering if multi timbral is going to come back into fashion. With external sequencer boxes becoming more popular, being able to play multiple timbres from synths with 24+ note polyphony would make them more worth the price. My last Korg was an X3 and that could do 16 different tones at once. I miss that.
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Absolutely. Doubling the polyphony in mk2/SE instead of allowing for two engines at once seems a bit weird. Reminds me of Elektron's artificial product segmentation. Especially since Korg pushed bitimbrality very early-on in their history and kept at it for quite a long time.
The SE versions should’ve had more knobs and less menu diving 😅
I have to disagree a bit as an owner of the 3. They have radically different sound engines and are already monsters of menu diving (for Modwave and Wavestate). I can't imagine a shared interface for the 3...
I am going to buy this and travel back in time to 2013 and blow peoples minds - Behold! The future!!
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You always make good music on this show and song titles.
Thank you!!!
The best keyboard solo of the last decade was played on a King Korg. Corey Henry used one for 'Snarky Puppy - Lingus (We Like It Here)". 35 million RUclips views and counting.
He could have played that one on an 80s Casio and it would have been awesome tho...;)
I'm glad i still got my korg dw 6000 in the basement somewhere. I don't know why i still have it but when i see new releases like this, i remeber i still have the dw 6000 just in case
Nice one!
There is no bad gear. Only bad manufacturers.
Lol, shots fired;)
True,. Imagine how much better our lives will be when Korg, Roland, Behringer, and InMusic all go out of business!
Oof 😖
@@scott21113so yamaha all the way?
Korg really is king at putting out things no one asked for, but I find myself wondering if maybe I do need it after all.
Wait for the prices coming down;)
Korg's biggest miss is not taking the OP6 and/or the Wavestate and throwing them into a 12 track groovebox. I mean, it's right there. Call them the synthtribes or something.
Agreed!!!
Just watch, it'll happen after 3-5 years and by then everyone will be like "too late bro"
If you want more sequencing and Wavestate-esque sounds, Korg wants you to go for a Krome EX. It's a badass keyboard workstation, I'll give them that.
Damn, you found the calling of the KingKORG in the vocoder section!! ;-)
Such pleasant sounds!
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Korg taking shots two weeks in a row!
Something old and something new;)
6:35 Jam 2 simply divine. The best track I've listened to in the last year for sure.
Thank you!!!
I’ve been buying synthesizers for decades, and the king Korg announcement was the first one that made me actually laugh out loud. Who is this synthesizer for? It doesn’t make any sense. Stage performers want more keys and synth nerds want more controls. This one doesn’t make any of those people happy and then they slap $1000 price tag on it.
I look forward to finding one someday at a going out of business bricks, and mortar store for 100 bucks. I still won’t buy it, but I’ll take a picture for my Instagram and caption it ” hey remember these?”
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You hit the bullseye right on.
Loving the ancient computer delivery meme. It was delivered to my local (Norwich City uk) Council in 1957. It was an Elliott 405 computer. There were 20 more of those boxes. Memory was stored on paper punched reels for its first year of operations before they changed over to using magnetic tape. 😆
Thanks for the heads up!!!
What on earth did they use it for? Mustard recipes?
@@heimlichvonbladderburst8348 Counting carrots probably.
Can't wait the Roland MC909 crach test 😅
I want one of these so badly!!!
We all do 😂
Despite how juicy and alluring that vocoder section on the Tonys, I still don’t regret having purchased one of the other budget synthesizers you mentioned in the thumbnails, AP, the Hydrasynth Explorer. There are still several patches I want to write on that thing, and I still have not learned all of its interface to make those patches come up, but I still don’t regret having purchased it, even if I had known this model existed before making that purchase. What would be needed if I could lay hands on a vocoder module to supplement the Hydrasynth,
Nice one!!!
in-n-out, That's what the PEDAL is all about!
Yessssssss
I love the way you say Uli Behringer so much
Thank you
I don’t even mind the sounds I heard here…. But a $1000?!?!?
*passes the crack pipe
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And the bath salts,
@@sawtooth808 lmao 🤣 no joke
That is neat Drum & Bass track. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!!!
What golden words - it IS fail to the king! King Korg was absolutely unique (yes, I double dare one to find valve tube synth of today's sad times) and to get this horrible nothing was another low blow from Korg - another one after Electribe 2S.
This showed me one thing - it's not a fair mistake, it's a pattern of damaged mentality.
The only good thing about Korg these days is the lovely Natalie.
Thank you!!!
beautiful ending wordsound bonus!
Thank you!!!
ya, to quote dr mix: "NEEEEEEExt" haha. i do really like my korg workstations though
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A few months ago I picked up an original KingKorg black edition for £500. Seems a much more sensible option for this tech...
Nice find!
05:12 Comment: It's part of the genre of gear "straight to Bad Gear episode". Spot on. 🙂
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Patiently waiting for it to drop to $349… it’s not a bad synth for that price, but I cannot understand how it costs more than the opsix/modwave/wavestate. Even those should be under $500…
Agreed!
Wavestate is pretty close to being a workstation ROMpler, and for under $500 is an over-the-top ludicrous demand. Not even the Yamaha MX49 is that cheap except second-hand, and it doesn't compete with Wavestate in sound at all but at least offers a better and bigger keybed. Krome EX and MODX6 are more comparable in sound to Wavestate.
I'm hoping that Akai, Native Instruments, and Behringer manage to shake things up in our favor in the near future.
I don't think you've ever made a crap piece of music out of any bad gear yet!! ❤
Thank you so much!!!
1099,-? They should visit the doctor and raise the dose of what ever they are taking. I would not pay 300,-. For just 50,- more you get a ASM Hydrasynth. And we all know they are worlds apart.
The Explorer for much less...
I'm actually pretty impressed with how well the sounds of the kingkorg play well together with itself. It still feels a bit pricey for what it is though.
Agreed on both accounts
Korg saw the hate that Roland were getting for the GAIA 2 and we're like, "You ain't seen nothin' yet!"
lol
G. 2 they went with Apple's thinking, remove popular features for the newer model.
Re: “Amateur noodler” Dude you shread, idk if you have music published but totally should! Great video!
Thank you so much!!!
Who have expected that Korg did this after 10 years of technology progress and brings a clone with less features but same price… wait, I’m getting cloning my own texts - that’s weird 😮
That's what we do these days;)
Ahhhhh capitalism
What technology progress have they made? Most of their recent synths are just reissues/reimagining of existing tech. The last thing they made that I found truly interesting was the Monotribe and then they never followed that up with a worthy successor.
Great review as always!
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MS2000 reissue .. that would be nice
Agreed!!!
@@AudioPilz it really does sound just different and I’ve kept mine since I bought it back then. I’m touched truly.
There's a bunch of buy-it-now/offers MS2000s on UK eBay for £350 at the mo' and a mint MS2000R for £315.
My first hardware synth. Never once failed me!
Speaking as an early VA enjoyer this one may be a future classic for the initiated. Give it a few years
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My theory is, Korg accidentally added an extra zero on the quantity when ordering the chassises for the Modwave/Wavestate/Opsix and were like “Shit, what can we quickly cram in these extras? Oh, old VA with a tube, cool just drop the tube part.”
Low voltage tubes are so zero years;)
this probably it... it's a common mistake for a factories
@@AudioPilz If you actually put in a high(er) end tube in one of those ESX electribe's, it sounds incredible! Funny how they are selling second hand for around 3 times what they newer model sells for. Korg still not picking up the hints though ;)
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Not long after this synth was announced, I learned: 1) it had the same not-so-hot keyboard action as all of Korg's similarly sized synths (Modwave, Opsix, etc), 2) it changed almost nothing from the previous KingKORG engine, and 3) the price was significantly higher than expected (and definitely higher than a used OG, FS KingKORG).
Best thing about this release? Used prices on the OG, FS KingKORG dropped, and I picked one up for an even better price. Makes a great live synth (minus the wall wart power supply) with respectable VA poly and mono synth tones.
Suggestion to Korg: How about a 16-voice VA based on the MS-2000/MicroKORG engine?? Add a quality keybed like the UNO Synth Pro, and it would sell like crazy, I'm pretty sure.
Edit: and I just saw at the end of the video you suggested almost the exact same thing for Korg. Let's hope they listen.
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Time to do the Studiologic Sledge?
Think so.
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
Agreed on the MS2000. Still have mine, and it would be fun to see a new model with more polyphony, and midi that actually syncs properly.
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the hard sync and the MS20 filter sound good to my ears but yeah.... roasting fully deserved... price tag super crazy and it all leaves me with one word... why? It's just a rehash of their old crap. Loved the part with the dinos shooting lightning out of their mouths.
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Often, I don’t care what you’re reviewing, I’m here for the tunes that SLAAAAAP
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First bad post that is not ticking all the boxes
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this IS the epitome of youtube channels🥇
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It’s a tad of of left field perhaps, but, Apple’s MainStage definitely had the amount of hate for it to quality as “bad gear”, though, from an entirely different demographic than the normal one for this show
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It sounds good and capable for the right buyer. Great compositions and crochet memes.
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Korg. Give this man the stuff and make him CEO (not NEO🐇)
As new KORG CEO, First Order (Ben Solo) of business... Boss (Roland Corp) fight.
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The KingKorg engine sounds phenomenal, i just wish they'd put it in an MS-2000 style knobby interface. Also as cool as the PS-3300 is I'd like an Omni Mk2 reissue.
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Not a fan of the white on white. Looks like something P Diddy would have wore in 2003. Besides, isn't gonna be SNES yellow in 10 years?
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I had an original and used it live quite a bit. It had a place. But in the studio it was pretty rubbish. Sold it for fairly little about a year ago. Why korg have decided to make this is beyond me
Mind-boggling
@@AudioPilz The black one is super cool with those vintage filters.
Have you noticed that Korg has been using the chassis of the ms2000 with different die cuts for the interface installation? I had the ms when it was new, had to have it serviced then, and the repair person was like”the board in this is only 3”x13”. The keyboards this size are primarily empty space inside, there is a metaphor possibly also contained inside them with that…😂
Interesting! Thank you for posting!
I watched a video recently of Roger Linn playing with a new MPC. He had a Linnstrument hooked up. Despite literally designing most of the gear he was using, he churned out a cringey, horrible jam that sounded like an 8-bit hot dog cart ad, and not in a good way. Meanwhile, superspy Florian Pilz can grab any two pieces of garbage manufactured in the last twenty years and absolutely melt faces off, all while getting more handsome every week. I don't know what alchemy sustains you, Florian, but I hope no one else ever finds out.
One glass of water a week, allegedly.
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Now let's not spoil him too much, will you......
Would it be churlish to point out that most synth designers are successful because of their electronics skills rather than their musicianship?
@@unclemick-synths Insubordinate AND churlish. But yeah, point taken. I love Roger's work and his terrible jam has not diminished my enthusiasm for what he created. Leo Fender could barely play guitar or bass, didn't hold him back at all.
Loved the vocoder!
Thanks!
Microkorg 2 should have had Granular Synthesis and FM. Seems to me they're starting to churn out one Wavetable rompler after another these days. The joystick looks as cheap as the one on my microKey Air which fly's off if you blow on it :D
That joystick is an abomination
X-Mod is just a 2 Operator FM... and you have more than just sine waves. i think that's good enough.
The fact that mK 2 is twice the price of the original alone just shows how much they missed the mark on it. mK 1 was many people's first synth, and was the synth I wanted for about a decade before I started my synth set up. The price is too off putting for first time buyers and seems to be relying on the nostalgia aspect, which it misses because it's not _the_ microKorg (how many people care about the mK XL for example?). They can throw in all the new fancy gimmicks that new technology allows for but if it's expensive then who cares about them??
@@JonasHamill same, sam e
Jeps, only waiting on Yamaha to bring out a TG500 mk2 again with AWM2 creaminess.
Dude your videos are the best haha.
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Just not all that much of it;)
This is almost unbelievable
True that!
The original KK was too expensive & gimmicky and lacking (no aftertouch), and was overshadowed by Korg's reissue of the MS-20. But its synth emulation (esp Minimoog) was actually quite good. This synth with the same name is just marketing nonsense grafted onto an aging synth platform. Tatsuya left Japan for Berlin right around the time this thing was being designed by others... and it shows.
Sad but true!
You sum it up so well! Korg inspires me with their engines. But their hardware is no fun and the integration into the studio only works halfway flawlessly with the old midi stuff. In my opinion, Korg is giving away so much potential.
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I dig the sound of it, but I'm left wondering how it really differes that much from my Microfreak. Certainly not several hundred quid more.
And that control panel - that's not a design, that's a dump without any thought.
It's such a shame to see synths like this in this day and age as Korg REALLY should know better. With more refinement and care they could have perhaps turned out something more down to earth in pricing or maybe something more pricey yet more complete.
I would actually prefer the Microfreak
@@AudioPilz I admit I did err a little on the side of caution. I absolutely would myself, but I didn't want to sound too fanboyish or anything.
This episode was inevitable! 😂
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They lost their mind with this one. I love my Modwave, but I cannot understand why you would pay more for this over it.
Modwave is pretty nice!
Ghidorahhhhh!!! (Great episode)
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I remember the times when I lost interest in synthesizers. About 1994, when every synth sounded the same, and no innovation was to be found. Today, the same. Maybe I need another 20 years to discover that todays synths are great. Until then I hope my Roland budget stuff doesn't fall apart.
I feel you!!!
My synth are 1990 or live in my i9
I like the keyboardist/bassist meme. Especially with Korg now owning one of my favorite bass brands, Spector.
This is a great synth for $500 or so.
Didn't know that! Thanks for the heads up!!!
@@AudioPilz I believe it's been a few years now. Maybe Korg is like a cat? Out for world dominance in the music world. I guess they'll have to compete with Uli though...
Having owned a kingkorg for a little bit, I would actually be into this update, if it was about 699-799...😂 but in prime Korg fashion, it's well overpriced...
Wait for it;)
It's crazy with a keybed that spongy, there is no aftertouch.
I like em spongy;)
The market is saturated with 'new' synths - only offering ROMpling and the usual bla bla bla filters and FX.
ROMplers are life, ROMplers are love. 😝
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Korg still my favorite though. Eyes out for a Trident reissue
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Really this was underwhelming (talking about the synth)... At least the Roland Jupiter XM (that was also underwhelming and pricey) was hands-on (kinda)!
These two are kind of weirdly undesirable...
I'm still waiting for Korg to put out that acoustic synth they've been teasing for the past two Superbooths.
I think there’s a smaller version now
I bought this thing. Returned it the next day it’s a piece of junk.
You mean bought.
@@htechdancetrue true 😂
I feel you!
"The function of the One is now to menu dive to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 waveforms, 16 samples, 7 analogs, and from those create a patch. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash."
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My word that's a fizzy filter! (I don't like it)
It's got a wide variety of fizzy filters;)
nice to see the dr-550 in action again.
Such a classic little box
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Yes and yes to an updated MS2000.
Classic synth!!!
$1000 for basically a VST in a box with some knobs and buttons and a 3 octave keyboard. Ridiculous.
The VST would be nice tho
@@AudioPilzVST would have a decent UI 😂