A͏s͏mongold Reacts to "The Worst of Classic WoW" | By MadSeasonShow
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2020
- Asmongold watches a video by Madseason, who explains the worst of Classic World of Warcraft: the community, the drama, the loot, the raids and the PvP, all parts of the unique Classic experience...
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"efficiency = spending more time getting world buffs then the actual length of the raid, real efficient.
Well I dont play classic but my assumption is that people do that to make the raid easier but also I guess it feels good to be way stronger due to the world buffs
I usually get tribute buffs after im done with my last solo tribute run for the day, then i port to og. After i do that i fly to felwood and get my songflower. Then i just log off and i come on when ony is dropped. I log off again. I search for a person to port me to Mojamba isle and i get spirit of zandalar with a couple guildies like 10 mins before raid. The whole process costs me like 20-30 minutes. (excluding the tribute run that i do for gold anyway as a hunter)
@@edwardtherhea6818 csb
Problem is there isn't anything else to do in the game lol.
@@garrettcason3692 You could always get another alt? ^^
If you're winning, it's because you're talented.
If you're losing, it's because the other guy is cheating.
Scrub mindset 101
This is human nature.
This is correct.
I don’t play WOW. But I like learning about it. Honestly; playing the game looks more like torture.
Nvm; I subscribed and came to realize the game was gay. My bad; people.
@Rick Grimes nerd
@@cleric4049 This was the comment I needed to find, thank you for taking away all the curiosity I had.
@@warlockscribe idk, it probably depends on the type of person you are, I bought it on release of shadowlands, and I gotta say, it's pretty fun. But that's probably mostly cause I'm playing with friends
@@Timotejy I tried it out anyways, and I was not fond of it as a solo player.
People were playing vanilla for fun, no one cared about "efficiency" or "min maxing".. but the longer a video game is played, the more the community tries to outdo itself.. and as far as i know WOW is the only game played by a huge number of people for the longest time. There is just no way to enjoy the game apart from playing casually
*laughs in league of legends*
@@espennetland5709 pretty sure wow is older than lol
Wow is up there for sure but fighting game communities are probably the longest lasting game communities. Melee been goin strong for 20 years now.
@@sleepyguy6948 Starcraft is older than melee, and is still alive, and I am sure some dude will bring out a 30yo game that still has a small community. Then people will say Pacman records are still a thing. Then people will point out chess, that has been a videogame for at least 30y
@@sleepyguy6948 Fg community is beyond cringe
Gaming in general has become more toxic than most nuclear waste sites.
Only competitive games imo
But yeah, you're right Sadge
Asmongold is triggered by the notion that all rogues are scum? He is a science denier! Get a dictionary.
Has always been
esake true. Btw warning 12 year old cry babies are about to attack you be on guard
I don't know why people don't realize this. I play rocket league daily and at least once a day people will call me trash because our team lost. It's never been a specific game, it's the anonymity that comes with online play.
This is why I joined a non-minmax guild. No Worldbuffs required. play a specc you like rather than the best
I Love it.
Same, my guild does raid log, and we're quite organized. I've healed through BWL and once I got most of the tank gear my guild allowed me to tank it and also the MC runs. We have 3 thunderfury tanks so it wasn't easy but they were all patient and supportive. Some IDs I even went cat, just so our warriors have more crit ! It's all about finding like minded players.
@@Jupexy X to doubt it, you can only play spec you want, unless you got bis gear that can make it work for minmaxing
That exists?
14:40 still happens to this day. you kill an players of the opposing faction and shortly after you got a battle net friend request. Everytime this happens you get a massive grin on your face, because you know you made this guy mad and you're about to hear/read his babyrage.
Kühn Andreas back in legion I was ganking a lvl 62 goblin dk and he called his demon hunter girlfriend and I ganked her to and camped them. He added be in btag just to cry at me to stop doing it so I said ok and the... i unfriended him on btag and kept doing it to them until they logged off. keep in mind I was a under geared blood dk and his gf was a raid geared dh
@@CriminalIntent89 ? FeelsWeirdMan
The Suite Life of Cack and Zody he’s complaining cause he’s one of them
CriminalIntent89 lol that’s enough of a little bitch that they need to add someone on btag to cry can’t roast
@@mistwrath5957 he deleted his comment LULW
Dude I remember playing WoW on my cousins account when he had the beta. He legit said to come over and play it. He left shortly after I made the character (human mage) and I was TOTALLY hooked by the time I left northshire. I didn't go over to play on that character too often, but I was definitely thinking about that game a ton. I had to wait until the end of January 2005 until I was able to save for my own game (the downfalls of a 15/16 year old). I've been hooked since. I definitely miss the old days on Bloodhoof
man youre lucky. i was barely 8 by the time vanilla wow came out. i wish i couldve experienced it new with everyone. i started a few years later in wrath
Asmon: "Wow, who are these people?!"
His chat: "Ummm.... >_>"
>People complain about borrowed power in retail
>Also people forces 40 ppl run MC with world buffs
To be clear: not defending borrowed power, but you have to appreciate the irony.
havent played retail in a while, whats borrowed power?
@@jowarnis i think its the core new mechanic of each xpac that lasts through its entire life cycle, like legion's artifact weapons, BFA's HOA and now shadowlands covenants.
i have no idea how you're getting upvoted when you clearly know what he means by borrowed power. what a shit fucking take
@@jowarnis borrowed power is the system Blizzard uses to make your character stronger, and then they throw it away at the end of the expansion. Legion artifacts, corruption and heart of azeroth for bfa, covenants in shatlands. It's supposed to help stop the crazy number inflation because they remove the systems at the end of the xpac, but in reality it just feels bad.
@@jowarnis to add on what was said : the main critique is that blizzard focuses too much on bloated, disposable (as in: throws away every expansion), that are hard to balance, instead of focusing on making the core of the classes and specs fun and strong by themselves
listening to madseasonshow is like being wrapped in a blankie, makes me feel like a kid again because he sounds like the average guy youd hear in vanilla
I hate his voice, I literally can't sit through one of his videos because of it
@@joshuameadows2850 Seeing as madseason has a fairly average voice, I can tell you're a emo child that hates himself and everyone else who has vocal cords.
Ha.... gaaaayyyy
@@notyourdaughter666 sounds like the dude who enters to ts for first time to raid and he has like a dollar store mic, wipe and goes like 'ok, that was fun' and gets kicked
"The classic wow community is much worse than the retail community." - What retail community?
I'm so happy being a casual, retail Andy. Playing the game for 2 months during summer, logging off after that, and doing it all again next year. This year, all I did was level my ret paladin and arcane mage to ilevel 410, complete the campaigns, do some raiding and mount hunting. I think I'm about to call it for the year and spend the rest of summer watching Asmon vods explaining why the classic community sucks (all be it just the 1% neckbeards). If you spend 100% of your time enjoying something that is meant to just be enjoyed, you will never lose, remember that
same
Classic is good if you find the relaxed people and a fun guild, but it is nothing like the vanilla community was when a huge portion had no clue what they were doing for the longest time and everyone still had fun and got things done, granted it was horrible as well sometimes but not as bad as classic.
Exactly same as me dude. Love playing casual now
At least classic has a community. Also you don't have to tryhard WoW classic at all.
itemlvl 410? bro you can get a higher itemlevel than that even without dungeons and raids, and im a casual myself, been playing for 3 weeks now and am at ilvl 439 or something
"They already are. It's called speedruiing MC". lmao so true
12:50 That's why I have badboy set so you can't whisper me unless your at least lv. 3
I was a rogue in a guild running T5 then t6 towards the end of prepatch. I remember there was another rogue who’s dps was always just 1-3% better than mine on Void Reaver which was the boss with which my guild ranked our melee DPS. I never understood why as I LIVED AND BREATHED my equipment/ability tree spreadsheet. I never understood why he always topped me until he quit one day and was like btw you know you were just missing x flask right?
3%.
Three percent.
I caught so much shit for that fuckin’ 3% and it was because of a fuckin’ flask.
My friend didn't know about the world buff cooldown when he won a ony head drop in a pug, he dropped it and got death threats for 2 days
I think that's a Snuggie, not a housecoat, effectively a blanket with arm holes
It's a robe, he unboxed it yesterday on his Vlog channel
That's definitely a robe. You put on snuggles the opposite way you put on a robe leaving the gap at the back and the neck and shoulders covered up and 'snuggled up' tight to the neck
You may think it's a robe but there's no collar.. or defined lapelle.. therefore it's not meant to be open to the front but actually open to the rear with arms through the holes so you can still type while having a blanket on...
One reason that the PvP community is so toxic, is that the excuses are somewhat legitimate. Lots of things are broken in classic. It's not a fair skill based game. I'd say that the outcome of a match is 80-90% determined by teamcomp, gear, overpowered consumables, engineering, and cheesy strategies like wallhopping druids in WSG to reach exploit locations.
There isn't a lot of "skill expression" to be had in most situations in classic, apart from some classes having 1v1's. Small scale PvP (1v1-3v3) with some specs/classes like the drakedog warlock spec, mage, rogue, druid, shadow priest, and hunter can be relatively skill dependent and fun, given that players have relatively similar gear.
But an alliance premade with a paladin, 2 priests, and a balanced combination of the best DPS classes, all geared to the teeth in BiS gear, abusing consumables like FAPs and engineering gadgets, will always 1000-0 demolish an unorganized group of horde randoms in terrible gear, almost no engineers or players using consumables, with a teamcomp of 4 warlocks, 2 shadow priests, rogues, and one druid as a "healer".
It is a legitimate complaint that the match was 100% unfair, and when 9/10 of your games are like that, it's easy to get a bit toxic when you can't even have a fight in the BG before being steamrolled. Still it's WAY overkill to blame the enemy team for it, obviously they are going to abuse such things if they want to compete in ranking. And it's incredibly degenerate to send hatemail, or especially threats to individuals for playing efficiently.
Good point. I never thought about it like that but you're right.
One reason, if not the main reason. I did the ranking as Horde and I felt toxic towards Alliance premades at times but never to the extent of creating a new toon and sending hate messages. I can see how others would do it though.
and in retail you just need to stack corruption
The problema is that, at the core Vanilla is was supposed to ben an MMO RPG game, and RPG are not supposed to be competitive PVP games, the PVE is the core of RPG balance since pen and papper.
WCB's the only worldbuff that takes a lot of effort to get (for Alliance). Other than that go ZG island, get your flask, get ZG buff -> Hearth to Stormwind for Ony -> Summons to uninstanced DMT -> get your DMT buff -> summons to songflower -> Summons to AQ40. If it's DMF week you add in a DMF buff after Ony. Assuming everyone in your guild levels 1-2 lvl20 summoners and you place them across the world it's not that complicated. The thing that takes time is if you don't have an organized ZG pop, otherwise all of that can be communicated on Discord when Ony is popping next or when there's DMT buff service available.
I got Rivendare's Deathcharger, I really lucked out and got it on a random leveling run of Strath.
I would love them to make Classic+ servers with some changes, such as world buff lockouts.
Not gonna lie, this made me take a look outside myself, and all the time I'm wasting, and I think its time to sell my account and move on with life.
no time is actually "wasted". You enjoyed the times so it wasn't wasted. If you wanna move on and do something else than do it , don't beat your self up about it. WE ALL GONNA DIE ANYWAYS.
@@l9mbus969 This. Literally anything you do in life is a "waste of time".
$5.00 take it or leave it.
@@BlGGESTBROTHER yea. but nihilism is not the way to go.
@@BlGGESTBROTHER But sleeping with beautiful women or working your dream job is way more rewarding waste of time than Classic WoW
just want to see what happens to the world when the internet isnt anonymous for just 1 week...would everything end or would trolls stop trolling because they cant hide **wondering**
Even these videos are nostalgic now. Good times 🙂
As soon as I saw Madseason made a new video, I thought “Omg I Hope Asmongold reacts to this.” Lol
I played at release till the end of BC, my guild was a super-chill and fun and also somewhat competitive. I still remember our guild master and vice master so wasted and drunk that they took best enchanting mats in our guild banks which we gathered for AQ40 enchanted their lvl 1 daggers and gears then dueled at front of Ironforge. Drunk, RPing, yelling, but couldn't line up and hit each other because they were randomly circling around. (dwarf priest and gnome mage) people watching was laughing their ass off while class leaders betting which one get the first hit or not.
Even with this bullshits, pure dps-hunger lineups, pom-pyro pulls and causing faction wars in every goddamn raid because our rogue class leader couldn't hold himself and gank horde guildmaster in front of raidzones. We got first C'thun clear in our server. Never used world buff meta because we're too lazy for it.
Downside was, i played nearly all available mmo-mmorpgs but couldn't get hooked any guild or clan because of my past experiences. What a beautiful days they were.
Kushinada Kai
If you don't play WoW, this is beyond word salad, it's just absolute nonsense.
Never experienced much toxicity at all with Classic (while leveling/dungeoning at least), though maybe it has to do with RP servers generally being more chill.
I assume it was being on a RP server (in that short window I had enough free time to play Classic) that meant I had a really good experience with other players - they even had time to explain why I messed up in a dungeon (as a filthy nuub) rather than just asking me to top myself 😅
You get temp bans for being inappropriate on RP realms. I’ve gotten a couple of them.
I refuse to get world buffs. I didn’t spend all that time leveling a main for it to sit for 6 days a week, we didn’t need it 15 years ago, we don’t need it now.
I too had that same headset, but instead of holding the broken piece like I was talking on a cordless phone from the 90's, I wore a beanie, and tucked the earpiece under the flap, securing it snugly to my ear until the next holiday/ birthday when I could ask for a new one lmao.
Once I started raiding and doing real pvp in TBC and was actually halfway decent at the game I started hunting people on my server on my rogue. The horde pop on our server was 2-3 times larger than the ally, so we would get camped relentlessly while leveling and now I finally had a way to fight back. I would fly in and drop off the mount in stealth, and shadowstep down to the person on the ground like some kind of spec ops soldier, at least that’s how I thought of myself. Then I’d camp them until they brought in too many friends. I had a whole folder just for the screenshots of the messages these people sent me. The rage was incredible. At that time I only had that one account so I couldn’t hop to a horde character to talk shit. It was so much fun to see a horde camping some ally trying to level in HFP, only for me to fly in and start camping them back. It was glorious and hilarious.
It's just like warmode for US and EU, 8.0.3 (pre-patch and patch) Horde gloated, they were so good. Camped my body for 5 hours till 5am... Then 8.1 gave us the bloated reward for killing 25 people just once, not even 30 minutes later the forums were full with Horde who were reguarly camping Boralus even and every FP Alliance reguarly used complaining how we were ruining the game. So they ruining our game for 3 motnths was oke, but the moment they got camped. I loved getting whispers from how this wasn't far PvP, 5+ vs me solo was fair? Short story short, they only wanna win. I gave up on WM now and never been happier, 30% bonus... it's just not going down. I want people not 18.18% extra gold. 8.0.3 warmode made a master at avoiding Horde, sniping mobs, hiding and escaping on a NE DH though. Even farmed Horde slayer that way (the salty messages were beyond great). Hey they camped me even in the Boralus inn, so yeah no regrets.
Im happy I never really run into these types of players. Seen very few, idk, is there a difference between regions/servers maybe?
This is what you do, find a corner to hide in near raid entrance, then despell everyone who rolls by XD byebye hours of buffs!
tbc had world buffs too but they were way less powerful than in classic you can rather see them as a cherry on top of your consumables rather than a 50 to 60% performance increase as is the case for some classes in classic.
the PvP salt reminds me of a guy me & my brother used to play PvP with in guild wars 2. he blocked so many people in game that he'd frequently complain about how he ran out of space on his block list.
Isn't it ironic that madseason made a wow classic video pre release, rating the community in the top 10 things to look forward to in classic, and then post release he says its one of the worst things about classic?
It's true. We expected it to be great and it's cancer
I got the charger back in actual vanilla. My guildies helped me run that place so much, that when we weren’t raiding, we were running that damned dungeon. Fond memories....
I helped my hunter friend get his cloak from baron. We started in nostalrius, moved to elysium, then rerolled on lights hope while running strat atleast once a day. Then classic came out.
I saw 5 mounts before we finally got his cloak in classic after BWL released….
I wish I was making this shit up.
Oh and of course I didn’t win a single one of the mounts…..
Will they do TBC expansion for Classic too? :) If I should try Classic to get prepared :)
#1. Problem solving skills
#2. Putting in farm time
#3. Understanding the game lore
Three steps to help a player in any game.
I'm still in the same guild as start of Legion and still play with the main core of people. I don't think anyone should listen to people blaming their lack of social skills on the game. It's very easy to befriend and play with a community still. Just gotta make the effort. Community isn't exclusive to classic.
Outside of your guild you probably know like 5 players. In classic you know most everyone even outside your guild
@@jacobkeller7172 Ok classic andy
ofcourse the smallest dog barks the loudest
its always the guy who spends the most time dead who talks the most
i block after msging people, not because i'm fragile, but because most people want the last say or feel the need to respond and it riles them up so good xD
guys come on, wow feels like heaven compared to the toxicity in league :D
Very true!
CAN confirm. I would rather feel the sweaty, BO-laden embrace of Trade Chat then spend another second on Summoner's Rift.
In league u can just mute all or ignore, in wow even if it is toxic pm it yell and tell and gold spammers there too much to ignore and u dont want to switch chat off completely.
Personal loot is much better in Blizzards eyes than people getting mad and death threats over fake video game items.
Genuine question, why is personal loot a bad thing? It seems to me in a 40 man raid, in a system that isn't personalized, and instead everyone has to share a pool, that is an objectively worse system. I'm sorry, but I refuse to dedicate my time to a raid if I'm not actually getting something for that time. Completely open to explanation here, as I am a relatively recent convert to WoW, and I'd like to know how veteran players see the issue.
I don't really even play WoW but I believe it has something to do with randomization of abilities on gear. It seems to be exceptionally difficult to actually get upgrades from the personalized system, let alone even tell if something is an upgrade. The old style loot had predetermined stats on gear so you could focus on getting certain pieces of gear, or the raid group itself would work with you to distribute gear to you or those who actually needed it. This is from an outside perspective and I am likely wrong here. I just figured I could at least try to answer your question cause nobody else has replied xD.
It's exactly why I will never touch WoW again. It's a virtual psychiatric prison from which you yourself don't want to be freed from.
Though, I had a nice, creepy tour of it for a few months xD
I finally got my girlfriend to play classic and she went into wailing caverns and was told to kill herself by 3 out of the 4 people in the dungeon.
'the community is the best part of classic wow"
I really wished someone in asmon's raids would ninja loot any of the items he desires the most, then we'd see how similar to those who wish death upon ninja looters he is even tho he makes it sound as he wouldn't be
He may not personally do that cringe shit, but if you take his Twitch viewers into account...
I want to see WR Raid runs with only class buffs.
I speed run DMN for fun on my hunter. I don’t know why it’s fun, just is. And I’m always trying to get faster and better. I guess the logic is the same in MC for some people. Each to their own.
Asmongold "classic wow pvp is fkn easy"
Also Asmongold "proceeded to lose almost every duel"
Love him
I don't know where people get this idea that world buffs make WoW Classic easier. Just about *any* mechanic that will 1 shot you for not paying attention will still 1 shot you with world buffs. World buffs make *some* mechanics more forgiving, very few, and apart from that it just makes raids faster. That's it. But I do hate them and can't wait to not have to worry about them at all anymore in BC.
5:35 Wouldn't people abuse this system simply because they thought you were bad or for whatever other reason?
the retail community consists of logging in, queing for a dungeon/lfr, joining, healers sucking, or vis versa, tank sucking, causing argumetns, causing shit talking, causing quitters lol
Sad thing is that classic is so much better than retail even with all these problems 😥
Actually it ain’t lol. The streamers are currently keeping that shit alive.
@@robertAnthonyColon classic brought back so many friends of mine to wow, but 0 of them stayed past lvl 30-40
@@preds43 The class balance may be far worse than retail but the class design is so much better, class design in retail is probably the worst of all time. Some community is better than no community in retail. The endgame in retail is just awful with all the worthless grinding of garbage you have to do for no reason which is why most peoples endgame in retail is farming cosmetics.
@@FreezyPenguin I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that class design is better in classic when one button rotations exists.
Shape430 I’m sure it did, classic is full of kids. How many adults you think actually watch classic streamers that have dumb face emotes and do literally content anyone can do and get cheers for it?
asmongold: they are MAD for no reason o.o
also asmongold: F*** *headbutts the table*
He usually has a reason lol, but yeah. Sorta hypocritical
@@FieldMarshall3 Asmongold character is the most stupid thing I ever heard. Yeah he is overreacting a lot of times because he is an entertainer but it's not like he is playing a fucking character. Most of the time he is himself and he is getting really angry, upset or he is acting like a douch (loot).
@@FieldMarshall3 wow he probably wouldve gotten an oscar by now if that was an act
@@sbsftw4232 at least he isn't sending death threats and doxxing people lmfao
Everyone should get their own personal loot and then maybe a couple pieces that can be handed out . Sharing 3-4 items for an entire raid is just ridiculous.
Blizz just nuked Arugal for Aussies and Kiwi's
The queue hurts my soul
Kiwi's? Lol
i always laugh at those guys who get mad someone need rolled on some shitty blue item in a dungeon
I get mad over white items. You have a problem?
@@fourthauglyn3504 yeah, ninja looting is bad even in classic. I would have no problem with class restrictions or personal loot
Damn man. Sometimes I think my life is sad but I realize I aint never msged no one like these people..smh
Is there a clip of that guy leaving asmon’s guild in Nighthold? I’d love to see/hear that shit !
There is a clip. It’s technically a nail clipper. But you won’t be able to see or hear of the guy leaving Asmon’s guild since all it does is clip nails, sadly.
I remember leveling in Barrens and a max lvl came up to me opened trade gave me 35 000 gold said have a good one and logged out
i like how he lists all these requierements for retail raiding making it sound like its a lot but it literally sums up as ''just play the game and youre good''
Yea for the most part, like play the game since the start like any rpg and you are good, what is annoying for me it is alt unfriendly but exept that.
Its realy just play the game, i dont think any other rpg have an easy way to catch up if you made it late ...
Asmon: I got the drip
Me: haha silly bald man you can't have the-
Asmon: 7:13
I don't like the cross-realm zones on retail... I'm on a high pop realm but I rarely see people from my realm in the open world and mostly people from other realms.
If you want friends in retail, discord is the way. That's where most people socialize.
To be fair, when I'm farming some shit or leveling, I don't want to speak with some random dude
Don't forget the people who spend all day trying to dispel the world buffs of others, naked corpse hopping to the enemy faction's inn as a priest just to dispel a tank, or grouping up at a flight path or somewhere else just to dispel. Two sides of the same shit coin.
We’re living in a time warp and all the teenagers are coming out to play this game
There is a simple fix. Disable the world buff while in dungeons and raids.
still malding
I think it's time for a set of burner accounts for 1 thing only: throwing raids so the super nerds break their shit.
Asmongold keeping me in Classic for sure after rattling off all the shit for retail again, lol. My classic guild requires zero buffs for raiding. They request we bring our own pots and elixirs if we're capable of doing so, but no flasks required either. We do our class buffs when we get in the raid and taadaa, you're ready to roll. Since we all want to do well, and want the guild to progress well, we do what we can to bring appropriate consumes and to get world buffs if we're able, but that's individual above-and-beyond effort.
I feel like this is either a US problem, or big-server problem. I've been playing classic since launch on a EU PvP-server. I don't think I've ever had an argument with anyone tbh. There are some idiots I guess, but I just ignore them.
I have a lot of friends on the server, our guilds work together and help eachother. I don't know if its cuz im officer in one of the best guilds on the server, if Im getting special treatment. But when people talk about the toxic envoirment of classic, I have no idea what they're talking about tbh.
EU is just as bad.
I think toxic people are drawn to other toxic people. if you are nice and not a toxic player, you wont have any arguments
The worse thing about classic is trying to get back into it once they have released further raids than MC and Onyxia. Gotta grit your teeth to catchup while 60s gank you for the fuck of it in every zones from lv30 upwards and most of the community on your own faction is either already 60 not giving af about lower lvls and/or min maxing their leveling to 60. The worse thing about Classic, is that it's an horrid experience for new players and a meatgrinder for those who know what they're doing but have to catch up.
imaginie useing 4 hours to get world buffs and the hunter forget to dismiss pet on the first jump in the start (he was also the gm)
6:45 *talking about in game chat:"It's probably the most toxic in gaming history"....*
*EVE Online: "Hold my beer, b!tch*
Wait is EVE actually toxic? Everything I’ve heard about EVE makes it sound like you need degrees physics and engineering to even hope to understand the endgame lmao
Ppl are min maxing so much it basically takes the fun out of the game. More cancerous than retail tbh.
so when there was no store players sold ther own boost and money and etc. but since blizzard didnt make money the call it cheating and ban accounts but if you pay them it okay
I remember a dude was going off at me and as soon as he was done I just said "that sucks."
Asmon is looking so healthy and happy these days!! Looks like that long break was just what he needed
I don't even play WoW, but madseason's intro is so nostalgic anyways lol
I'm confused. I didn't raid I'm classic but I don't understand the world buff problem. On one hand people say classic is too easy and on the other people bitch about world buffs. Are world buffs necessary or is it just a bunch of hard asses that require everything min/maxed?
You can't reproduce playing a Game for the first time (Unless you lose all your memory because of an accident or sickness). And replaying it but "this time i'm better!" is one of the worst mistakes when it comes to MMORPGs.
This may work with single player games since you got full control of everything, maybe even learn some glitches or trying to speedrun.
But for Games like WoW you should do the opposite:
Find people who clearly see that they already know stuff, don't fall for BiS items and all that Bullshit.
Maybe even try doing Raids without any Buffs, challenge yourselfs.
Every Guild i joined in classic was pretty much just giving out Loot to Mages, Rogues and Warrior Tanks.
And not rolling on items for Weeks as Elemental Shaman sucked. I had fun with my Class and it was something different then i played decades ago on the original Classic.
All i wanted to do is have some fun with People :(
I would gank people so hard in gurubashi arena. My ignore list would see me raiding and rage in the raids general chat weeks later. I don’t think I ever looted the chest but killing the same players of either faction and their rage was my reward. Another thing about your server going down. Players would create level 1s on RP realms and create chaos until our servers came back up. So not only would we be complaining you would have the RPers telling blizz to get our servers fixed.
People who leave an M+ Key before the timer is out or just because you hade 1 wipe should be banned from M+ Till the next reset.
"classic wow is easy" yeh try playing feral in pvp
Wasn't that bad back in the day from 2004-2008 when i played
As a noob who just started and is a prot paladin who has to captain the group the dungeon wipes its my fault even though the dps couldnt keep up or healer is worse then me lmao i love it im going through the same process everyone else did but nothing like being harassed for being a noob all day friggin long by the same dude lol hate being a noob
Edgemasters Handguards are a trash item anyway. Way better items come at level 60 than some trash epic that gives you a +5 to swords.
Easiest game, nope most time consuming game which spending so much time in a game is Hard, so it's not easy...
Nowadays I’ve come to terms that I’m shit at PvP so I just always say gg and fuck off to whatever I was gonna do next
the toxicness doesnt happen in retail as much cuz theres zero social aspect to it
Thank fuck that if classic Burning Crusade releases there will be no world buffs. Fuck that.
30 isn’t old lol but I guess in game world it is? Wow has a toxic pvp base for sure, but it was the same in D2 has to be a connection haha both blizzard games. I used to grab DM trib buffs but I soloed it on my hunter so
i believe i saw once a video where somone called the parents of a kid who was trashtalking.
I cant wait til tbc where raids can truly take 4 hrs with clean efficiency runs to start so much more loot drama and roster drama
2:35 So... MMO RPG doesn't stand for "Many Men's Online Role Playing Girls"?
This one time when I died with about 0.01 seconds left in WSG, I went full screaming turbo-nerd and hit my push-to-talk button on accident...out of habit. That was embarrassing.
I joined Classic Wow for the community. I left due to the Community.
No world buffs, but I think attunements should come back.
That whole theory that anyone who talks about being "good" or "tough", isn't actually good or tough, is fundamentally flawed. There are just as many people that suck and are quiet, and just as many people that are loud mouthed and good. The theory sounds good on paper but it's a fairy-tale stereotype that people choose to believe because it brings a sense of justice and security to people that get wrecked by someone that's both loud, and good. Or maybe because it lends some legitimacy to the quiet ones being good by default. Who knows. Either way, it's wishful thinking by anyone who thinks it's that simple.
I totally agree. It's just how ego works.
The distinction is between trash talk to throw someone off they're game and actively being toxic BECAUSE you lost. We've all gotten angry because some weird shit happened that made us lose where we would have won and it's not an issue if you say something. The problem is thinking ALL losses are just luck and not trying to understand what you could have done better. If someone beats me and talks shit about how much I suck, there's not really much of an argument I can make against that besides beating them. If someone is saying I suck and they've never beaten me, they're just being toxic because the can't take an L. World of difference.
@@lydellb You're talking about something completely unrelated to what my comment was about.