Very nice lecture. My dad's family also came over in that wave from the Pale. My grandfather had been a Jewish slave in the Czarist army. He kept a picture of Stalin in his dining room. To him, unlike Emma, Stalin represented an attack on antisemitism. Most of my relatives would have hurried to listen to her lectures, speeches.
I first skipped to the part about her book, her disillusionment, because I was curious to see what your take on it was. My take: I thought she was very brave to reverse her stance on Russia, and see through the totalarianism and evil it produced. And, I don't use the word 'Evil' lightly. Not many left-wingers and radicals, even in these days of so much open information, allow themselves to break from formulaic thinking, despite what is right in front of them. Thanks for the brilliant lecture and commentary.
Let haters effing hate. But like it or not, Emma Goldman had made her revolutionary mark by what came out of her fiery mouth and her defiant actions. Fighting and demanding for women's liberation is one important part and component in societal transformation. Let Emma's legacy inspire the women of the World. And hey, like Emma said: If i camt dance your revolution, I won't effing join it. Period...
I always wonder what Lucy Parsons, a black and native American anarchist, wife of one of the "Haymarket Martyrs", the first most dangerous woman in America, would think about Emma Goldman
I respect "some" of the efforts of Ms Goldman...The Wagner Act (my cousin) was the law enacted to allow unions to form. She was a radical but had some good ideas about workers and women being abused.
Here are some errors I spotted. 1:. If she opposed Zionism, it is probably because, as an Anarchist, she opposed Nationalism in general. But it was NOT because she believed in the evolution of society as described by Karl Marx. She was not a Marxist. She distributed pamphlets which she probably wrote saying that Marxism is a sterile formula. She was, however, supportive of the Russian Revolution until she went to the society union for two years and become more and more disillusioned. She became Anti-Leninist, she had actually MET Lenin. She left Russia at least as non-Marxist as she had been before the revolution happened. 2: She did get married again after her first marriage, but it was a paper marriage in England, done as a favor to her so that she could get British citizenship and stop being a stateless person. 3: The guy who assassinated McKinley did NOT say that he was inspired to do it by Emma Goldman. He had met her, and the police tried to get him to say that she was the inspiration for his crime. But he refused.
Could you please clarify the link between Emma Goldman and Jewish History. It seems her only link was her birth to a Jewish family. The political typology that you shared here is quite interesting. Where did it come from? Anyway. It doesn't hold up very well because we all know that conservatives in government like to spend, increase deficits, and debt as much as liberals, if not more.
on Jews being oppressed; I interpret the negative mitzvah 'do not dwell in Egypt' as metaphorical for do not dwell in oppression (fight, protest, emigrate) as mitzrayim means 'constriction' as I understand it. Under this interpretation Emma Goldman was certainly a Maccabean paladin against oppression.
I always thought of anarchism being the extreme fulfillment of non republican (representational) democracy, in that, in theory, everyone has equal power, voice and role in government and in anarchism (at its extreme end if the spectrum with no gov. not gov. only doing will of the people) the lack of government also amounts to everyone having equal voice and power in society (in theory), like the intended egalitarianism of communism/communalism ( not totalitarian government masking as communist).
The printer created a statement based on these sentiments that has become one of Goldman's most famous quotations, even though she probably never said or wrote it as such: "If I can't dance I don't want to be in your revolution."
Emma, you are like a mirror to me. I am a Jew, from a line of Kabbalists 600 years long. I am a woman. I have experienced suffering as a woman. I am an anarchist. I know that capitalism has destroyed our planet. I believe in punching Nazis. As fascism grips my country and use "free speech" as an excuse to continue hating and killing Latinos, Black people, and Muslims I know that I must use all my souls and even my body to stop these fascists. I am not a Zionist, nor do I believe any form of nationalism is moral. I have worked my whole career to help and educate and give power to immigrants - as my family have once been strangers in a strange land. When I say "no borders, no nations" I say that not only as an anarchist, but as a Jew.
She was REALLY ahead of her times. In the early 20th century, she was pro-union and spoke against the oppression of Native Americans. She was a first wave feminist. She spoke for birth control, the rights of sex workers, did not believe in marriage, and spoke for the right to open non-monogamy for both men and women. She may have performed abortion, she certainly distributed birth control devises.. She spoke for the rights of homosexuals. She seemed to have anticipated most of the trends that the left would later take up, both the traditional left, which focuses on class, and the newer left, which focuses on oppressed minorities. She and Berkman did, eventually, give up on the idea of "The propaganda by the deed," especial in the form of the assassinations.
Prof. Abramson, How to explain that Jews generally focused the "traditional" family value on the one hand and radical political ideology on the other. Is there link between Its anti social perspective and its sense of "home landless" ?
I was always interested in anarchism but Goldman was part of it. The Haymarket Square was caused by a bomb set off by anarchists. The riot that followed has to do with the destruction of the bomb. Goldman seemed to a self advertiser and created her own brand of politics. She claimed her father or uncle raped her when she was very young, and later that some other man also raped her. (Why this was never reported to the police is anyone's guess) As you said there are very few third person accounts of her life which means that her biography must have had a certain amount of lies and exaggeration. Apparently she was a very popular speaker as she sprinkled her speeches with jokes and anecdotes. One of her saying was, "Go to the rich and ask them for jobs. If they don't give you a job, ask them for bread. If they don't give you bread break in and steal the bread" This is nothing less than encouraging theft and breaking the law. However, the main thing I understood is that she didn't have an ideas that were original or never formed anything resembling a philosophy.
Yeah ya missed quoted her, she doesn't say break in and take bread. To this day, no one knows who threw the bomb at the Haymmarket affair. There's evidence it may well have actually been a cop. Stop lying about a person and people who are long dead and not here to defend themselves.
@@joeybones8235 The version I heard was, "Go to the shops and ask for work. If they do not give you work, ask for money. If they do not give you money, ask for bread. If they do not give you bread, take bread." She seemed to think that stealing what one needed to survive should be a last resort, but it was better than starving.
I was reading the 613 commandments the other day in my treasured Essentials of Judaism book and one of them was that one should abide by majority decisions. I thought that was funny cause it made me think of central democracy, I think its called, which if I remember correctly, was Lenin's idea to vote individualistically but act as one.
Henry, I love you. One idiosyncrasy of yours is that you cannot- ever- say "worldview" without also saying "weltanschauung". We wouldn't love you less if you limited yourself to plain speaking. You're a Tru man!
Henry Abramson I apologize of it came out a bit rude... Love your lectures helped me through some pretty tough times ... will continue watching. keep it up Doc!
If I may add that Emma Goldman wasn't in any way influenced in her political thought by Lenin. In fact, as she says in her autobiography, what really drew her to anarchist thought was the haymarket affair. Lenin to her represented the very thing that was wrong with the Marxist approach.
And one more thing, more government intervention into the economy is not socialism, that is social democracy. Socialism by definition is an economic system (that by the way doesn't favor a certain political system as is historically suggested) that has as its primary characteristic: worker control over the means of production. Notice the key word here being worker control, not government control. The idea behind socialism was democratizing the work place, and therefore erasing this employer and employee relationship that existed in capitalism. It did not mean that the employer would become the state (which is why many refer to the Soviet Union and other former communist countries as having state capitalism, where the state took the role that private industrialists had), rather it mean social ownership and decision making of, what is to be produced in a factory for instance, how many hours are to be worked, what is to be the pay etc
LUVED The Joke SO SO SO True women come looking for their Hubbies to come back home, the garage needs fixed and trash NEEDS taken out then go back TOO Your Shmoozing with HASHEM, I'm Rolling with Laughter, don't see TOO Many Women doing those things ANYMORE 😄😄😄😄😄, The Donald Trump Is like Me, In a League ALL of Our Own.
Jews......we have our Aharons and our Pinchas'.......I don't think we can argue that Judaism equals non violence all the time, some times necessitate it. Turning other cheek was for that Roman myth JC, and non violence was preached by that anti semite who slept with his nieces, ghandi. Not really our thing.
All those draft dodgers who ran to Canada should never have been allowed to come back...I love your shows but I had to say that. Many of my family members were and are Veterans including myself who fought against nazis, communists etc. These hypocrites cursed America and hid in Canada who does not even need a military since America protects them from Soviets etc. Many good young men(hero's) were maimed spit on when returned here or killed fighting to stop communism there. After America pulled out of Vietnam millions were murdered by Viet Kong and Pol Pot ...that's why they escaped on boats all over the world in late 1978-79 which is a forgotten fact! Israel would have locked them up if they did this shande there... Sorry for venting on comments .שלום
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Very nice lecture. My dad's family also came over in that wave from the Pale. My grandfather had been a Jewish slave in the Czarist army. He kept a picture of Stalin in his dining room. To him, unlike Emma, Stalin represented an attack on antisemitism. Most of my relatives would have hurried to listen to her lectures, speeches.
Dr. Abramson, will you be covering Rosa Luxemburg?
I first skipped to the part about her book, her disillusionment, because I was curious to see what your take on it was. My take: I thought she was very brave to reverse her stance on Russia, and see through the totalarianism and evil it produced. And, I don't use the word 'Evil' lightly. Not many left-wingers and radicals, even in these days of so much open information, allow themselves to break from formulaic thinking, despite what is right in front of them.
Thanks for the brilliant lecture and commentary.
I'm sure I will. I learn something new each time I watch your lectures.
Let haters effing hate. But like it or not, Emma Goldman had made her revolutionary mark by what came out of her fiery mouth and her defiant actions. Fighting and demanding for women's liberation is one important part and component in societal transformation. Let Emma's legacy inspire the women of the World. And hey, like Emma said: If i camt dance your revolution, I won't effing join it. Period...
Long live Emma Goldman my Jewish American Anarchist feminist comrade!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I always wonder what Lucy Parsons, a black and native American anarchist, wife of one of the "Haymarket Martyrs", the first most dangerous woman in America, would think about Emma Goldman
I respect "some" of the efforts of Ms Goldman...The Wagner Act (my cousin) was the law enacted to allow unions to form.
She was a radical but had some good ideas about workers and women being abused.
Here are some errors I spotted.
1:. If she opposed Zionism, it is probably because, as an Anarchist, she opposed Nationalism in general. But it was NOT because she believed in the evolution of society as described by Karl Marx. She was not a Marxist. She distributed pamphlets which she probably wrote saying that Marxism is a sterile formula.
She was, however, supportive of the Russian Revolution until she went to the society union for two years and become more and more disillusioned. She became Anti-Leninist, she had actually MET Lenin. She left Russia at least as non-Marxist as she had been before the revolution happened.
2: She did get married again after her first marriage, but it was a paper marriage in England, done as a favor to her so that she could get British citizenship and stop being a stateless person.
3: The guy who assassinated McKinley did NOT say that he was inspired to do it by Emma Goldman. He had met her, and the police tried to get him to say that she was the inspiration for his crime. But he refused.
Could you please clarify the link between Emma Goldman and Jewish History. It seems her only link was her birth to a Jewish family.
The political typology that you shared here is quite interesting. Where did it come from? Anyway. It doesn't hold up very well because we all know that conservatives in government like to spend, increase deficits, and debt as much as liberals, if not more.
on Jews being oppressed; I interpret the negative mitzvah 'do not dwell in Egypt' as metaphorical for do not dwell in oppression (fight, protest, emigrate) as mitzrayim means 'constriction' as I understand it. Under this interpretation Emma Goldman was certainly a Maccabean paladin against oppression.
I always thought of anarchism being the extreme fulfillment of non republican (representational) democracy, in that, in theory, everyone has equal power, voice and role in government and in anarchism (at its extreme end if the spectrum with no gov. not gov. only doing will of the people) the lack of government also amounts to everyone having equal voice and power in society (in theory), like the intended egalitarianism of communism/communalism ( not totalitarian government masking as communist).
The printer created a statement based on these sentiments that has become one of Goldman's most famous quotations, even though she probably never said or wrote it as such: "If I can't dance I don't want to be in your revolution."
A favorite of mine too
Emma, you are like a mirror to me. I am a Jew, from a line of Kabbalists 600 years long. I am a woman. I have experienced suffering as a woman. I am an anarchist. I know that capitalism has destroyed our planet. I believe in punching Nazis. As fascism grips my country and use "free speech" as an excuse to continue hating and killing Latinos, Black people, and Muslims I know that I must use all my souls and even my body to stop these fascists. I am not a Zionist, nor do I believe any form of nationalism is moral. I have worked my whole career to help and educate and give power to immigrants - as my family have once been strangers in a strange land. When I say "no borders, no nations" I say that not only as an anarchist, but as a Jew.
She was REALLY ahead of her times. In the early 20th century, she was pro-union and spoke against the oppression of Native Americans. She was a first wave feminist. She spoke for birth control, the rights of sex workers, did not believe in marriage, and spoke for the right to open non-monogamy for both men and women. She may have performed abortion, she certainly distributed birth control devises.. She spoke for the rights of homosexuals. She seemed to have anticipated most of the trends that the left would later take up, both the traditional left, which focuses on class, and the newer left, which focuses on oppressed minorities.
She and Berkman did, eventually, give up on the idea of "The propaganda by the deed," especial in the form of the assassinations.
Prof. Abramson, How to explain that Jews generally focused the "traditional" family value on the one hand and radical political ideology on the other. Is there link between Its anti social perspective and its sense of "home landless" ?
I was always interested in anarchism but Goldman was part of it. The Haymarket Square was caused by a bomb set off by anarchists. The riot that followed has to do with the destruction of the bomb. Goldman seemed to a self advertiser and created her own brand of politics. She claimed her father or uncle raped her when she was very young, and later that some other man also raped her. (Why this was never reported to the police is anyone's guess) As you said there are very few third person accounts of her life which means that her biography must have had a certain amount of lies and exaggeration. Apparently she was a very popular speaker as she sprinkled her speeches with jokes and anecdotes. One of her saying was, "Go to the rich and ask them for jobs. If they don't give you a job, ask them for bread. If they don't give you bread break in and steal the bread" This is nothing less than encouraging theft and breaking the law. However, the main thing I understood is that she didn't have an ideas that were original or never formed anything resembling a philosophy.
Yeah ya missed quoted her, she doesn't say break in and take bread. To this day, no one knows who threw the bomb at the Haymmarket affair. There's evidence it may well have actually been a cop. Stop lying about a person and people who are long dead and not here to defend themselves.
@@joeybones8235 The version I heard was, "Go to the shops and ask for work. If they do not give you work, ask for money. If they do not give you money, ask for bread. If they do not give you bread, take bread." She seemed to think that stealing what one needed to survive should be a last resort, but it was better than starving.
why was this never reported to police? Well, for one thing, she was NOT a big fan of the police.
Are your lectures in Touro College open for the public or only for the students?
Thanks!
Make a video on Murray Rothbard and Ludwig Von Mises, two Jews that have done a lot for the right libertarian capitalist movement
the major significance of Woodstock to me is that everyone was in altered states and no one got hurt ( including lil Homer Jay Simpson the toddler).
Good, but discussing anarchism more fully would be better;
thanks Henry.
The version of the joke that I heard was that she had to fast for three days and then could only say 3 words "come home Sheldon"
Sheldon Solow…..
did i read correctly Mr. Berkman's years? 1870- 1865........little error perhaps
I was reading the 613 commandments the other day in my treasured Essentials of Judaism book and one of them was that one should abide by majority decisions. I thought that was funny cause it made me think of central democracy, I think its called, which if I remember correctly, was Lenin's idea to vote individualistically but act as one.
It may behoof Ye to offer an engraved Plaque to sponsors.
Henry, I love you. One idiosyncrasy of yours is that you cannot- ever- say "worldview" without also saying "weltanschauung". We wouldn't love you less if you limited yourself to plain speaking. You're a Tru man!
The world "Weltanschauung" is just so delicious.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Nearly the complete Schopenhauer in one word. Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung. Anschauung als Vorstellung eines Willens.
Alexander Berkman 1870-1965 not 1865 correct?
Henry Abramson I apologize of it came out a bit rude... Love your lectures helped me through some pretty tough times ... will continue watching. keep it up Doc!
If I may add that Emma Goldman wasn't in any way influenced in her political thought by Lenin. In fact, as she says in her autobiography, what really drew her to anarchist thought was the haymarket affair. Lenin to her represented the very thing that was wrong with the Marxist approach.
And one more thing, more government intervention into the economy is not socialism, that is social democracy. Socialism by definition is an economic system (that by the way doesn't favor a certain political system as is historically suggested) that has as its primary characteristic: worker control over the means of production. Notice the key word here being worker control, not government control. The idea behind socialism was democratizing the work place, and therefore erasing this employer and employee relationship that existed in capitalism. It did not mean that the employer would become the state (which is why many refer to the Soviet Union and other former communist countries as having state capitalism, where the state took the role that private industrialists had), rather it mean social ownership and decision making of, what is to be produced in a factory for instance, how many hours are to be worked, what is to be the pay etc
LUVED The Joke SO SO SO True women come looking for their Hubbies to come back home, the garage needs fixed and trash NEEDS taken out then go back TOO Your Shmoozing with HASHEM, I'm Rolling with Laughter, don't see TOO Many Women doing those things ANYMORE 😄😄😄😄😄, The Donald Trump Is like Me, In a League ALL of Our Own.
Jews......we have our Aharons and our Pinchas'.......I don't think we can argue that Judaism equals non violence all the time, some times necessitate it. Turning other cheek was for that Roman myth JC, and non violence was preached by that anti semite who slept with his nieces, ghandi. Not really our thing.
eating glass to 'toughen' up intestines! wow! I certainly value asceticism and non traditional views but dang!!
Ha! Your jokes are like depth charges. They sink before they go off. Re; the Sci-Survey.
All those draft dodgers who ran to Canada should never have been allowed to come back...I love your shows but I had to say that.
Many of my family members were and are Veterans including myself who fought against nazis, communists etc. These hypocrites cursed America and hid in Canada who does not even need a military since America protects them from Soviets etc. Many good young men(hero's) were maimed spit on when returned here or killed fighting to stop communism there.
After America pulled out of Vietnam millions were murdered by Viet Kong and Pol Pot ...that's why they escaped on boats all over the world in late 1978-79 which is a forgotten fact!
Israel would have locked them up if they did this shande there...
Sorry for venting on comments .שלום
the major significance of Woodstock to me is that everyone was in altered states and no one got hurt ( including lil Homer Jay Simpson the toddler).