2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV: Is The Sequel To The Bolt Any Good?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Earlier this week, we gave you a walk-around of the 2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV - and from the comments some of you made, you'd be forgiven for thinking we didn't like it at all.
As one of the most affordable EVs on sale in North America, we think it's a car aimed less at early adopters and EV fans - and more at regular car buyers wanting to have a competent, practical car with enough gadgets to keep everyone happy.
If you're looking for the same pep as the original Bolt EV though? You may find things aren't quite as you'd hoped.
But Is the Bolt EUV as good an EV as the original Bolt EV?
As we quickly discovered, it all depends on what you want in a car, what your approach to used cars versus buying new is - and what your expectations are for a car built on what is now pretty old EV tech.
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Script, Presenter: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield and Kate Walton-Elliott
Camera, Editor, Coloring: Michael Horton
Production Assistant: Moss Lu
Sound Recording, Art and Animation: Erin Carlie
Audio and Producer: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield
© Transport Evolved LLC, 2022
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2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV loaned to Transport Evolved on behalf of Chevrolet by Page One Automotive
Transport Evolved retained all editorial control of this review.
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My wife and I bought a 2022 EUV a few months ago and we're obsessed with it. Granted, we were coming from a ~15 year old honda civic and haven't been inside of any other electric car, so we find the simplest things very exciting, like carplay, heated seats, having a rear camera, etc lol. I can see why reviewers who have a lot of experience with other higher end EVs wouldn't be as psyched about it, but for our purposes it's excellent 👍
I agree the seats are stiff. They are noticibly stiffer than the 2012 Honda Civic that my '22 Bolt EUV replaced. One thing I can say however, is that on 7 hour road trips the soft Civic seats would leave me with back pain on the same 7 hour trips. The stiffer Bolt seats have never given me back pain. I like soft seats, but my back does not handle soft seats well on long trips. Everybody is a little different though so there's that. Granted a fluffy after market seat cover could make them softer too. The seats I have are the LT1 fabric seats. We have a '22 Bolt EV with vinyl or leather seats, I forget. Those feel softer than the fabric seats. Though I guess this is aĺl subjective and it is better to sit in the car at a dealership and see for yourself.
For our first EV this is a great choice and it serves the purpose as a commuter that can charge at the work place if necessary, but mainly at home with far less cost than the 2008 Matrix it replaced. If I want something a little faster, a little more plush, maybe the Blazer or the Equinox planned will be at a price we can afford.
I've never driven the original Bolt, but as far as looks go this is way better. This will be my first ev.
Ours too. And we've never even been in an EV before, let alone driven one. I hope we're not sorely disappointed. For us, this was an extravagant purchase.
I had an EV first with my i3. My wife liked the idea so much we ditched her Crosstrek and the EUV is her first EV. She (We) love it! Already drove from TX to KS with it.
If you enter into the experience knowing the car is better suited for suburban life, we think you'll be very happy indeed! - Nikki.
@@lizburgess4398 Trust me, you'll love it!! I've had a 2022 EUV Premier and now have a 2023. My girlfriend has one, as well. They're awesome. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. I've been driving EV/EUV's since 2015.
Going from a 19 premier to a 22EUV 2LT was night and day in terms of fit and finish. Would never go back to the 19
I disagree on the shifter. The 'toggle' design the first generation Bolt and some other GM products used was panned by people test driving or owning them.
I don't understand why you both find the layout of the buttons 'wrong.' They are the standard PRND(L) layout that automatic transmissions have used for decades. The reason the Reverse and Drive buttons are different is for safety purposes. You can't just randomly 'push' the button and do damage to the motor. You can randomly push Neutral because that won't cause damage. That is also why the Park button is offset so it is unlikely to be hit by accident. I do agree that the linear buttons is a waste of space though; a simply dial would be better.
I'll have to agree with Nikki and Kate on this one, I don't know why so many reviewers panned the original shifter. I found it very quick and intuitive to use similar to cars with manual transmissions, reverse was forward and to the left and 1st (or drive) you would pull back. Parking and driving you would not need to look at the shifter whereas now when I shift I have to look down at it. Also when activating/deactivating Sport Mode, Traction Control or Lane Keeping Assist I have to look to make sure I am not inadvertently hitting the shifter buttons instead.
Thank you so much for this review, Kate and Nikki! To me it was the perfect rundown of various elements ranging from door chimes to charging curves, acceleration to wheelbase, so many bits in between, and how the whole package compares to the existing Bolt. Your points and counterpoints were spot on with crucial context that others often neglect. Sadly, this really does strike me as a strange sort of temporary, half effort bridge offering from GM while we wait for the upcoming Blazer and Equinox EVs. Please keep up the good work!
Your disappointment is clear. But this is an EV that offers decent mileage , good at home charging, reasonable comfort and safety. You made the point that for for certain drivers that is what they want. At $32,000 for the higher trim and assuming Chevrolet does have the federal rebate next year, the car would be about $20,000 in New Jersey. It would be hard to find a gas car to compete , let alone an EV.
Yes but it's in the arms race and competition of the market, going neck in neck but at what direction?
GM leaves a lot wanting for what looks like a lack of attention to detail and coordination with original Bolt drivers. GM leaves a lot wanting about EVs for many past reasons.
Great video.
Well its a good 3rd EV beginner. Its just making itself affordable with not so much fancy stuff. I'd probably buy the renewed 1st gen Bolt or probably the 2023 Bolt EV. I saw a few beingbdriven around our neighborhood and I'm liking the looks. Our Chevy dealer doesn't seem to have any on their lot that u can see from the street driving by it. Probably parked at the side of the building getting charged or close to the charger.
While I hate SUV’s this one is better than the average
I love the two of you reviewing together! 😊. Such fun you took us all out to Tea at the end. AND IAN!
Double your pleasure double your fun!
Congratulations Nikki on your start to a healthier life. I made a few changes after a health scare a month ago. Although I only want to lose 20 lbs, I'm down 6.
The thing I don't like about the original bolt is that it doesn't offer adaptive cruise control on any level. That adaptive cruise control without having to have super cruise is a game changer on the highway and you can use it on the street. The new EV premium has adaptive cruise control. That makes a difference for me! I believe you talked about adding the COMMA 2 driving system to solve that problem
Very engaging conversational format.
Talking about the small cup holders brings up one of my biggest pet peeves about the EUV. I've owned an EUV since late August and numerous times I've dropped something in the gap between the driver's seat and the center console. There is about an inch between the driver's seat and the center console at their closest point and about 3/4 of an inch between the passenger seat and the console. There is also more than ample room between the front seats and the doors for operating the seat controls.
Because of this, I definitely feel that either the center console should have been a bit wider or the narrower that average front seats should have been a bit wider. The obvious answer to why they aren't is GM didn't want to make new parts for either of those vs. reuse the parts from the EV; and using seats from something like the Equinox would have been too wide. I get it on the seats, there are 2 of them per car and it is a somewhat expensive part. But for all the talk they did about the EUV not sharing any sheet metal with the EV, it shouldn't have been too costly to come up with an injection mold to facilitate a slightly larger center console if they had any genuine sales aspirations for the EUV.
We bought a Bolt EV instead of the EUV (2LT) because the extra expense of the EUV didn't seem worth it. I wanted the punchier EV and the better efficiency (because it's lighter).
We got a buyback on our OG 2018 Bolt, bought a Mach-E 4X with the buyback money . . . then we sold our 2017 Volt LT for more than we bought it, and used THAT money to buy a 2022 Bolt EV :-)
Overall, I do think the '22 Bolt EV is a little nicer than the '18 Bolt EV we had. The interior feels nicer, and the infotainment system is, overall, better. I hate the cupholders in both generations.
Awesome info and ride in the Chevy Bolt EUV and recording at the Cup Of Tea. I just looked up the shop and it looks marvelous. If there was a HYPERLOOP from my hometown to Portland I'd go there today. Then zoom back home the next day but would probably stay much longer. Portland seems a place I'd stay for awhile longer.
Okay it may not be perfect, but I adore my new EUV...but there are features that I still don't understand and I'm stumbling through...I'll get there. Thanks for the review
Great review! Can't wait for your Equinox ev review
I look forward to hearing more about your experience installing OPGM driver assistance in the Bolt EV!
Now THIS was a fair video on the merits and drawbacks of the modern Bolt EUV. I am kind of convinced that the 2023 is a minor tweaked version of the 2022 so my 2023 should not vary too much from your comments. I am not that conscious of the chimes because my previous vehicles had annoying beeps or pings. The chimes are nice if used sparingly. The seats are not completely comfortable for a big guy like myself (370lbs) but adequate for long journeys. The steering wheel is kinda close to my pooch but the squared off bottom of the wheel helps. The ride is solid which I like. It give me the feel of quality and escape from the environment. Road noise is minimal other than the tires. The two things I don't care for in my 2023 are the pull switches and the tiny glove box. I really hate the tiny glove box. I believe a shift handle would have been better than the switches. Losing the shift handle removes the "familiarity of the feel" I had. I accidentally pulled up on the emergency brake once rather than drive. NOT smart. Overall I am pleased with my new Bolt EUV and thank you for following up on the previous video.
We bought a ‘22 EUV this past June. We love it.
It is an exceptional value for the money. The Equinox EV will be $10k+ more expensive, the Blazer even more than that.
The Bolt EUV has great range and features for the price. We had a mid trim 2015 Camry that we replaced with our mid trim EUV, and the EUV exceeds the Camry in nearly every regard.
My friend has a higher trim level ICE civic, and our EUV is better in every aspect except MAYBE handling.
The fast charging sucks… but this is a commuter car. We charge exclusively at home. My wife drives it an hour each way to/from work and likes the seats.
We save $200-$300 a month on fuel costs, which is the equivalent of an ICE car at a $10k-$15k lower price… what are you buying for under $20k that comes close?
This is not a luxury car, but it’s a tremendous value in its class. I’m quite surprised by the generally meh review in the video.
This may be a tough question to answer - If you didn't previously own a 1st-gen Bolt, would your opinion have been different if this vehicle was a truly new experience?
Coming from a 2020 Premier to a 2022 EUV launch edition I am much happier overall with the EUV. The creature comforts outweigh the slightly heavier feeling.
Lol! EXCELLENT thumbnail for this video! Ok, I'll watch the video now.
On Carvana the Bolt EUV price is between $36,000-$42,000. Where as the Bolt EV is between $21,000-$23,000. However, every time I check for the Bolt EV they're already sold or in the process of being sold.
I’ve noticed that, too. (That all the Bolt EVs are in the process of being sold.) I would totally get the regular Bolt EV over the EUV if I didn’t already have one, given that choice-that’s a big price difference!
Sounds like a basic family car, at a competitive price. Funky seats: check. Weird interface and buttons, lots of bing bong noises, check. Larg-ish, check. But then they add super-cruise! Great detailed review! I think a lot of people will like this car well enough, and find this review useful. Great family commuter car it sounds like. Thanks for all your detailed work on this!
We ordered our Premier trim without supercruise or the sunroof/sound package to cut down costs. It ended up $33,400 before tax.
@@lizburgess4398 very interesting! What would it have cost with the super cruise?
@@shanefiddle $38,000 (after the discount Chevy is offering.)
@@shanefiddle actually, $38,000 included the sun and sound too. Brian says $36,000.
Love your channel but I MUST comment... you are picking WAY too many nits with this video! Ok, I admit, I never owned a Bolt EV so I can't compare it with my 2022 EUV that we FINALLY picked up in July of this year. Within 2 weeks we had over 2000 miles on it... we drove 80 miles for lunch, just because we could! Basically, I love my EUV and I don't find any where near the nits to pick about the vehicle that you do. Second admission... I am not a car person like you are so maybe I'm just not as attentive to details you are. Botton line: I love my EUV and would recommend it to anyone else wanting to bypass the gas station like we are doing. Keep up the good work! Oh, hey... when and how is Tesla going to let us charge non-Teslas?
Serious query about bringing EU spec cars to the US, how would they fare in a crash test vs. a Suburban or an F-150?
LOL - that is why they don’t bring EU vehicles to the US.
Crash and EPA testing are really expensive in the US. Even though they have similar standards in the EU. So manufacturers don’t have the market to justify the cost.
They had an episode on this a while back, I am surprised they didn’t plug the video after making the comment.
Thanks for the video; you've made some great points. The seats and overall size of the EUV are a better match for me; the original Bolt's seats are not my cup of tea.
I've read that all these sound settings can be modified, or at least turned down, in the infotainment center.
My Lt euv is going to be built mid-January '23, and I'll be using it for my commuter and charging at home, and I think it'll be perfect for that task -- I don't want super cruise or a sunroof. I did a lot of research on the lower-priced EVs, and to me the Bolt is the best deal (the air-cooled battery in the Leaf made it a no go for me). I had a '23 bolt ev on order, but found out that the EV no longer has the drive-motor cooling loop that the previous bolt had, but the euv has retained this feature; this made me change my order to an euv.
In sept I sold my '19 awd Prius for more than I paid for it new, and ordered the euv right away. I've been driving my '04 jetta tdi wagon --- with completely worn out suspension -- since then, so I expect the Bolt will feel like it has fabulous suspension :)
Well here in the EU we miss the GM bolt, / Opel Ampare - E... to bring the prices down..
Thank you for the excellent review!
I ordered a 2023 Bolt EUV Premier, no Sun and Sound and… no Super Cruise. I actually wanted the Super Cruise but was told GM wasn’t allowing that as an option at the moment. Not sure why not (chip issue maybe?) but, couldn’t get it. Didn’t want the sun roof because it’s cool but just another system that can go wrong (I’ve seen it have issues in other videos.) Plus being in Michigan keeping heat in the car in February is crucial so, one less heat loss point. Maybe that is wrong thinking but it saved me money. My final coat was $30590, thanks to my father-in-law’s GM retiree employee discount (got the blue color too, which is an extra $395.) Haven’t heard an updated timeframe yet (ordered it on Oct. 24th) so 4-6 months is still the estimate. Should get whatever federal tax credit it qualifies for at least ($3750 seems likely.)
Loving the quality of video out of those GoPros.
Thanks for the review
Very informative and interesting. Great video.
Hi Nikki and Cait sorry on speeling Kate I think the euv is much improved much smoother ride is quieter a much improved vehicle. Although like you mentioned not at punchy, the ride is better and I'll take that.
So I like the Bolt in both iterations. I would like to see them keep it around and try to get it closer to a 21k or less vehicle. Then you really do have an affordable ev from a major manufacturer. It's not perfect but it does match of in design as a budget run around vehicle.
I COMPLETELY disagree. I've had THREE EV's and TWO EUV Premiers. For a few grand more you get a bigger feeling car inside and a lot more room in the back seat. The ride is not much different in my opinion. I love both, but the EUV over the EV is a no-brainer. Granted I'm also 6'4", but still. If money is the issue, Tyner the EV is a fantastic choice. If you like a little more room then the EUV is the one.
Thank you for sharing! It's good that we all have different opinions - the extra height you have on us probably makes a big difference, we'd wager :) - Nikki.
Good points about the transition drivers. I am definitely in that segment. I was thinking the same thing in my ID4 the other day. I really thought I would like the B mode, since I was used to regen on my Prius. I found it was too strong for my taste, and D mode is pretty good. Never going back to gas.
I have a 22 EUV 2LT I would never go back to my 19 premier simply based on the interior alone.
Why do they have to the driving mode (P R D N) down on the console.. seems like wasting space that could be used for something else.. maybe larger cup holders?
IAN must be brilliant!
Great video and extremely useful info. Thanks!
Ian is a legend, for sure. More so every day!
Nikki how much was the Bolt EUV?
Are those shifter buttons the tech contribution from Honda?
I think you're being too harsh on the EUV. It's a much better car than a Leaf and is likely to hold it's value much better and it will always be in demand as a commuter car.
Thank you for the excellent review. I had debated the Bolt but went with a 2022 Niro EV because I had a 2020 Niro hybrid and it just so happened the Kia dealer where I was getting my Niro hybrid serviced had 1 Niro EV in and I snatched it up that day lol. Love the Niro. The Bolt was a very close option and had the Kia dealer in Medford not had the Niro EV I likely would have got the Bolt from the Chevy dealer in Roseburg where I live. Also, your videos give me flashbacks to my time in Portland lol. Spent most of my life there. I lived in the Clackamas Town Center area where you started the video and I recognize a lot of the areas you were driving. Love your reviews, keep up the great work!
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Strange that by now they haven't come up with cupholders whose width is adjustable.
Just as some CVT have been given "shift lurch", acceleration limits are added to meet the expectations of the target driver.
Well shoot! They're building ours next week. We're hoping to get it after the first of the year to be eligible for the tax credit. We currently drive a Transit Connect Wagon. I'm feeling a bit bad about it now. We don't have many used EVs here in Michigan.
We’re hopeful that the video you just watched will help you ensure yours doesn’t have the issues this one had! It’s a cracking car.
@@transportevolved Thanks! We're old, but my two 80-year-old aunts just bought Tesla Model Ys. Those are not only way out of our price range, they're too high tech.
Liz, I drive a 2017 Bolt EV. I bet you’ll like the EUV more than you think right now. (The only thing about mine that really makes me want a different car is the 55 kW-i.e., quite slow-rapid charging rate. But I rarely take long trips in it, so it doesn’t make much of a difference in practice. In fact, it doesn’t make any difference when I’m just driving around locally and charging overnight, which is about 99% of the time.) Overall, I love my Bolt. And most of the people weighing in on these reviews say they like the EUV more than the EV. Cheers! 🙂
We’ve had our ‘22 EUV since June and absolutely love it.
I’ve driven mostly trucks and sporty sedans since 1990, and yet I really enjoy driving this car.
If you compare this to a Tesla or EV6, it loses. But they are in a completely different class. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Heavy Feeling is Something present in the ICE Equinox going back to at least 2014
I personally don’t see the benefit of tuning a Car to Shred the TIRES
I am a bit confused as to why someone would by a used bolt EV over the EUV when the bolt EV trim is still sold.
I guess my only preference in buying an EUV wold be because the EV isn’t sold with super Cruise.
I would really like a car with advanced autonomous driving capabilities without having to pay $$$.
Maybe the lowers end Silverado will have the option but paying 60-100k for something to take to the grocery store 2 miles away each week isn’t smart.
I'd like to see more RUclipsrs perform headlight testing, like Consumer Reports does. IIHS hasn't published any headlight tests for the 2022/2023 Bolt.
I’m already getting emails from gm that the car will get ota software updates. Weird that my ‘19 bolt never got any and had to go to the dealership for it.
This seems like a very fair review to me. It's true that back in our day we used to be impressed if a family car did 0-60 mph in less than 10 seconds... but those were different times. These days, traffic is more dense and every car accelerates more quickly, so to have a car that aims to reproduce a legacy driving feel is going to mean lacklustre sales.
It's a very good thing the GM did not abandum the Bolt after all the problems they had. This is the type of EV the general public needs, an EV to go to work and run general errands. The general public can't handle a 400 to 1000 horsepower car. Good thing I'm not part of the "General Public", so I NEED a Tesla Plaid or a Mustang Mach e Performance. :)
Hi nicki,
Just seen your latest video on the new bolt replacement
First thing that hit me looking at it was it looks like the new MG ZS EV
But with a little different styling changes to make it their own
Is it a collaboration with the MG brand??
And if it is the same platform which is better value?
Rab
Though if they have used the same platform it sounds like they have buggered about with the suspension and steering geometry with the way you both say it feels in the corners.
The MG seems more refined.
You get 10 years of "EV Data" for free with a new '22. I'm so curious if you've driven the '22 or '23 Bolt EV to compare this one to? Or are you only comparing it to the older model years (pre-design refresh)?
We have a 22 Bolt EV in the calendar! We're super excited! :) - Nikki.
I do love you all and this channel. I am a sponsor on RUclips, and I want you to understand my great disappointment with the first and now this review. The concepts of "as good" and "better" are very subjective, and while I will admit GM is horrible at "badging" it's products (Volt, Bolt, Bolt EUV) and the battery fire fiasco was challenging, would you PLEASE give this car a fair shake? Let's start out with an opening of assumptions about the cars future. While the possibility of it being phased out is real, it is just as possible that it will continue to sell, even for less, particularly if they can configure it to have ultium batteries (with faster DC charging) because it's size, and potential affordability would make it particularly marketable IN a recession. American motors did that with the Nash Rambler, which they phased out in 1956 with the larger mid sized Ramblers, and brought back in the recession of 1958 as the Rambler American. No corporation owns the future, or a crystal ball to predict it, so your speculation on the future of this car is tedious.
Next, while the EUV is not as quick as the Bolt (I've had both), in "Sport mode" it is a bit faster (accelerator response) and for my use, as "responsive" as my Bolt, so I'm wondering if you even TRIED it in Sport mode? Then the tedious complaints about the chimes, virtually ALL of which can be turned off in the settings menu. The buttons work just fine, once you learn them, they can. be used without looking. Again, I remember pushbutton automatic transmissions. I found the original shift paddle in my Bolt difficult because the side button to get it out of Park was difficult to feel and push with my neuropathy. The pushbutton shift is very "clear" push to stop, pull to go, very simple, and I don't need to look at the buttons. SUBJECTIVE judgements !!
Thanks for saying complimentary things about Super Cruise, and the general existence of the car. I would have appreciated some more praises for the comfort, much more roomy back seat leg room, the upgraded infotainment system, thicker padding in the seats (firm or not) and the general upgrades to a more "luxury car" feel for the car.
At 73, it's my 7th EV, the first "NEW" car I've purchased in 40 years. Read that please, 40 years, I bought this car because it does everything a car is supposed to do exceptionally well, at a price point that is good, and GREAT for an EV. Yes, the DC fast charging is not as fast as 150KWH, but that costs a lot more money. And the 52KWH will charge at 45+KWH for most of the cycle IF the charger is rated at 150 and in a good mood. The time to charge lets me stretch my legs, eat something, walk my dog, etc. I would like faster charging (who wouldn't?) but not enough to pay an extra 10K for a car I only fast charge a dozen times a year.
While I appreciate the usual mix of objective info and subjective thoughts, I think you were unfair to this car. You criticized it for not being what you wanted it to be, and mostly ignored what it is, an excellent value. AND, it's NOT a successor. They are still selling the regular Bolt. This car didn't REPLACE the Bolt. It's an additional option. You're the one's that created this "better" paradigm. And I am disappointed that you cast it in this light, and basically trashed this car for simply being an alternative to the original Bolt. Y'all can do better, and I'm sorry you didn't.
Reducing the peak power is fine if it comes along with greater practical range.
On the thing being cheap looking: The materials and robot time for a cheap looking design cost just about exactly the same as would be the case for a good looking design. Stuff that doesn't line up is just evidence of bad design.
On modes: Cars should not have modes. They should be able to understand from your actions on the steering wheel and the pedals what you want it to do. If you slam down on the "go pedal" it should get moving as fast as it can manage. If you ease it part way down it should go smoothly and gain speed.
Modes on an EV are usually regular (ICE style) driving mode where you coast when off the accelerator and One Pedal mode when the car goes in regeneration mode using regeneration to slow down when you are off the accelerator.
Sad to hear about the acceleration deadening. I LOVE that electric cars have power even if they aren't 50k+. Would be sad to see them scaled down because of historic ICE car slow because cheap.
Switch on "Sport" mode and it removes the acceleration softening at initial acceleration.
I have to agree here, between my base 2020 Bolt EV and my fully loaded 2022 Bolt EUV both with Sport Mode activated, 0-60 the EUV is almost 1 second slower.
If it's not as good as the OG Bolt, they did have a price reduction. Seems like it's being graded on an absolute scale not a relative scale based on price. Helpful to have a quick addition of what vehicle gives you more or better and for how much more. $
Used bolts vs new, not that cheap. As low as 15K before insane pricing. Now people think their new battery bolt is an entire new car. There's still wear & age on motor & especially AC, rubber fluid lines, steering, suspension, interior etc.
I'm hoping something like this will be a viable option on the used market for a college kid in a few years.
Question about PARK: is it a gear in the transmission like a regular automatic or does it set the brakes to enable PARK. (( not the park brake, just PARK as in PRNDL ))
It locks the transmission as usual.
I wish they would have bought the bolt over to the UK, they did have the euro spec bolt for a year in Europe but then stelantis bought out opal and its gone.
Need to qualify that price you quoted by reminding people that it's with incentives. The car is actually $33.5k USD to start.
2023 starts at $27,500 before incentives, you’re thinking of the 2022 price.
Thanks!
In the US market this is the best bang for the buck. I would stick with the regular Bolt EV instead of the EUV for slightly better range. None of the vehicles offered are particularly efficient. I am not interested in the tech toys. Good reliable and fun transportation will do just fine. The entire market for EV's keeps going in the more and more complicated tech direction and higher cost. They are not very efficient at all. It is all very disappointing. The positive note here with the Bolt is the cost came down. If you are out pricing used EV's they are being priced as high at this new car. That seriously becomes the bottom line at this moment. I have also seen several reports that GM actually slowed down the charging on this car for the DCFC. That is really a shame, but they are still using the older battery chemistry here so that is probably a self preservation effort. I guess I am looking at it like the glass is half full. GM decreased the price of an EV in a very high inflation market. That will be enough to make this a good seller. I prefer smaller, lighter, more efficient so the Equinox and Blazer do not interest me. If the I3 wasn't so riddled with gremlins I would consider a used I3, but can't say I am willing to risk it. Luckily I am about 2 years out from needing to buy a car so hopefully something good happens or like you said people start dumping the Bolt for the new hotness and I can buy one of these cheap. If inflation and supply chain continues to put pressure on the vehicle market I don't look to see prices dropping too much if any at all.
Came here to learn something... I learned that these 2 have terrible insights and opinions on the Chevy Bolt/EUV.
I've driven a 2019 Bolt since I bought it in late 2018 and I just got a 2023 EUV. You are convinced that GM deliberately made the vehicle slower to somehow appeal to gas drivers. That's just a ridiculous idea. They had the Bolt ev platform and made it a little larger and thus heavier. Of course it will be a bit slower... and with that you are only talking a half second in the 0-60 times. Physics.
Apple carplay has worked for me 100% of the time. Sorry that you have an Android.
Screen in EUV a bit snappier and sharper but functionality is exactly the same as the 2019.
You can turn all the audio alerts/chimes down or off in settings. It's called options, RTFM.
Look down in the door pocket... an enormous water bottle will fit there. Yet you somehow missed that.
The button debate is just bizarre. They removed a giant stalk that was essentially a large button and made the console sleek and user friendly. I guess ymmv.
99.999% of people who have driven both greatly prefer the EUV seats... you don't. Ok.
I think that handing over any amount of driving duties to to a computer that has faster reflexes, but is less competent than myself is a Stupid Idea. Is there anything out there that might convince me that I am wrong? (Note, this excludes automatic braking for the unlikely event that either I have mentally checked out or someone unexpectedly violates my right of way. I am perfectly happy to take advantage of lighting reflexes on the brakes. Well, mostly. The closest I ever came to a collision required me to get off the brakes and maneuver, I would have been very upset if I lost control because the computer insisted on max braking)
5:57 If you are talking about OnStar, GM is mandating that only for GMC, Buick, and some Cadillac models. This Chevy would not be part of that.
You guys just love ripping on this poor car. :D
I suppose this means we've come a long way from pining for mainstream EVs to exist at all.
cheaper interior? That I don't get.
I think they have forgotten just how super scratchy plastic-y the interior of the original 2017-2021 BoltEVs are.
Here's another new EV which doesn't seem that much superior to my ancient i3. (The other being the Mazda CX30, I think.)
The rapid charging on this Bolt EUV seems particularly awful by today's standards. While you're talking about the cars they're planning to bring to market next year, it seems to me that if there's any significant slip on that timescale, GM are quickly going to be in serious trouble.
How is your I3 battery holding up? We are in Phoenix and had a 2014 I3 and original range dropped from 82 miles to low 50 range so we sold it. Other that the range drop and replacing tires at 20K miles and expensive BMW service we loved it. Drove great, tons of fun and surprisingly spacious inside. Sure wish they had gotten it to 200 plus mile range.
The “Original” Bolt EUV Walk Around video seemed a bit nit picky and within 3 minutes into “The Sequel of The Bolt Any Good” the nit picking continued with the Bolt Euv not having the “punch” or “go” of the original bolt EV or a Niro EV.
You can feel and tell the difference between 10ths of a second, really?
Check out the test specs from “Car and Driver” 2020 Bolt EV, 2020 Kia Niro EV and 2022 Bolt EUV:
Bolt EV 0-60 6.7 sec, 30-50 2.5 secs, 50-70 3.7 secs
Kia Niro 0-60 6.3 sec, 30-50 2.4 secs, 50-70 3.5 secs
Bolt EUV 0-60 6.9 sec, 30-50 2.5 secs, 50-70 3.7 secs
I've driven both, and yes you can. It is the slowest accelerating EV I have been in with exception to the Volt.
Apparently we can, because it's noticeable.
While in your somewhat smug comment you're failing to consider that the torque curve has changed and is different between the vehicles. That means that even though it's only a little slower to 60, it *feels* noticeably slower. And given the extra weight of the bolt EUV and lack of extra power that feel is particularly noticeable at the top end.
But you go right ahead and just assume specs on paper are all y'need.
^Kate
@@transportevolved fight smugness with authoritative smugness
@@transportevolved Did you try sport mode? I've read comments on reddit that in addition to changing the accelerator pedal mapping, it also affect the steering and makes it tighter. I'm curious if Bolt-EUV sport mode is more like old Bolt-EV non-sport mode and Bolt-EUV-non sport mode has been tuned down to be softer slower acceleration etc
@@transportevolved I guess it's possible that the "Car and Driver" figures aren't quite right. Was yours a "Press Car" or one borrowed from a normal dealer?
I'm looking for an EV replacement for my Focus ST. This is not it apparently. I'm apparently going to be driving my already 10 year old Focus ST for many many more years. There is no EV replacement on the horizon for it in the US.
Bolt EV with suspension mods (Eibach) or MINI SE Hardtop😀
@@lw02 My next car needs to be AWD. I live on a hill where it snows. I was going to buy an Impreza hatch, but decided to wait for an AWD EV hatch instead. I'm usually specific about that and forgot to mention it.
We have a mid size SUV and won't be buying another for a very long time.
I will be waiting a long time it appears. It's OK, I work from home right now so my carbon footprint won't be altered a whole lot by an EV.
Seriously though, this obsession with 0-60 times and “sport mode” etc… most people are not buying non sports car EVs for acceleration G forces. Range, comfort, and reliability are main consumer concerns.
What I’d like as a person who needs to ferry kids and pets around is an EV Minivan. Seriously.
An EV minivan is actually a lot harder than you would think. Unless you go back to removable seats like in the 80's the whole point of the minivan is that when the seats are down the back becomes a cube van for cargo. If the van can't do that because the battery is in the way then why wouldn't you just buy a much more capable SUV?
@@Snerdles because an SUV is not more capable than a mini van.
@@kevinwilson99 What are you talking about? Without the seat folding a minivan is just a box that fits 6 people. An SUV of similar size will also tow, have clearance, and usually have real all wheel drive options. I mean, that's some pretty delusional thinking.
How does the ride and driving fun of this 2022 EUV compare with a 2022 or 2023 EV Bolt?
The EUV rides softer than the EV and handling is less sharp due to the increased weight and longer wheelbase. The front springs and struts are the same and the rear springs and shocks are retuned for the EUV.
‘People go from their ten year old ICE vehicle into an ev and go’
‘oh this is a bit much’
‘so now automakers are trying to be a bit more mellow’
Pretty much. XD I haven’t driven an EV yet but sometimes it’s less the fact my next car is going to be an ev and more that some EVs are able to do 0-60km/hr in some ridiculous too fast time that most worries me about getting behind the wheel of one. That and learning the tech… my car literally doesn’t even have cruise control it’s that old because I learned to drive in a second hand vehicle and future ev transition aside I just never needed to upgrade to something more modern to get me from A to B because old enough to have a broken and no longer used tape player aside, the car works fine and hasn’t even become a rattletrap yet unlike my Dad’s previous old work ute.
I think they needed to mellow the Bolt a bit because they spin the tires way too much. You could be be doing 20 MPH and hit the go pedal and still get the tires to spin. They use ECO friendly tires for range not grip. Also all that torque probably adds additional stress to all the parts that have to handle it. Sure more power and off line zip is fun but it comes ay a cost.
I'm impressed with this car. The order point is fantastic and the car is solid.
I have an 11 year old ICE, still going strong, and my only EV experience was driving a 1st Gen Nissan Leaf.....I loved the power and pep and it's never left my brain. It was fun.
My sister, however, took 5 attempts to pass her driver's test to get her license and is an annoyingly nervous driver even after 15 years of experience. This EUV sounds like a good start for her.....but I will be completely dissatisfied if it doesn't have punch or power. 🤣
I would love to get one of these cars, but what scared me was the cautionary tale of the Leaf's resale value. That said, maybe it would be better to wait for the better models to come out and buy used?
That's what I'm thinking. The USA $3K rebate will help.
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Has anyone noticed how supressed the views are? Is Transport Evolved really deprived from the algorithm stream? Or is there low interest in the Chevrolet Volt?
This really is a compromise with marketability. Whoever the new market audience the new Bolt was built for are going to be missing out about the old Bolt. Nothing short of disappointment .
All GM had to do what improve on the seats!
We’re working to try and fix but… yeah…
The US should let us import brand new EV from Europe.
I always think the Bolt and Bolt EUV were designed for europe rather than america..... I am sure they would sell welll in europe and the uk.
But it looks like they're not available here yet. Maybe not at all as the Bolt would struggle against the MG4 in particular. There's a long history of American cars selling very badly in Europe with Tesla the only real winner.
I disagree that "dumbing down" or "de-tuning" the EVs is "not necessarily a bad thing." It is a bad thing because it perpetuates the FUD that driving an EV (or just EVs in general) are boring and are for tree-huggers who do not care about the car culture and just want to kill the car driving experience.
It doesn't help that nearly every car reviewer on RUclips does the same thing: Floor the accelerator at stand still for that all-important acceleration test. I honestly never in my life ever floored the accelerator when the car is at stand still - the car simply would not behave well. So the car reviewers already came in with certain biases/expectations. Now adding on to the fact that power delivery tuning on an electrical motor is so much easier than an ICE. So what you'd get is biases plus de-tuning of power delivery all making EVs arguably less exciting to drive and the experience that much artificial....
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One thing to add to this discussion is that GM was a very early competitor in the EV game when they were selling the EV 1 back in 1996. Those who had them loved them, and yet had the rug and literally the car pulled out from under them. GM is kind of making up for their mistake by snatching the EV 1 away from customers, and with current Bolt sales they have far surpassed the 1,117 EV’s they sold back then. In October Chevy recorded 14,709, they are on to something, especially in this price range.
EXCELLENT REVIEW 🙂
Brilliant ev GM 😊 but room for improvements... I would like to see a Frounk 💞 and more fun 😀 as we now electric cars can be fun, as Our BMW i3S is so fun to drive with a small useful frounk 😅🌈❤️❤️❤️🌎 #buzzofftoxic #Tiedamew
Getting me to work and back frugally is fun enough for me.
Honestly, the 2023 Chevy Bolt is so much better than the 2022 Bolt EUV for what both of the cars offer, and you can currently get it for about 6k cheaper. If they keep the 2023 Chevy Bolt price as is come 1 Jan, 2023... it will be the absolute best bang for buck EV on the entire market. Granted, you still have to deal with the unacceptably slow DC fast charging speed.
As you mentioned however, the depreciation on the 2022 Bolt EUV will likely be very bad. However, with the $4500 used car credit, it might actually be EASIER to sell a used 2023 Chevy Bolt compared to the 2022 Chevy Bolt EUV in the used car market, even with the $30K-38K Equinox EV's flooding the market in 2024. From what I can tell, car-wise, the main difference between the 2023 Chevy Bolt and the 2024 Chevy Equinox EV will be the size, 50ish extra miles and the upgraded DC charging. You could skip those and buy a used 2023 Chevy Bolt for probably less than $20K, which isn't as big of a loss in value as trying to sell a 2022 Bolt EUV would be.
Actually starting about June 2022, the 2022s came with a GM rebate of $5900 for EV and $6300 for EUV.
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A car is not an investment.
Certainly you know the story of the EV 1 from the documentary who killed the electric car. Apparently the top brass at GM did not make it clear to their designers that the EV 1 is supposed to suck. Lesson learned. Now, over 20 years later, their low-margin low-maintenance price leader has shortcomings built in deliberately. Makes you want to upgrade to the upcoming Equinox,Blazer etc.
It's a deal breaker, the water bottle doesn't fit, you'd think for a compact SUV that costs $28k the least they could do is make a bigger water bottle holder! Here's novel idea, how about getting different water bottle?
Gee, Gm is making an EV that appeals to a broader audience that actual everyday people want, they have a lot of nerve. They should be catering to the whims of auto reviewers who are stuck on charging speeds and range.
No it's an EV, it's different than an ICE, you get to charge everyday and have 250 miles range - everyday. You can't do that with a gas car, it's a different dynamic. How about reviewers actually waking up to that fact?
It's the cheapest EV you can buy in the US so let's compare it to an MG from a different country with a different economy and system, that'll work!
Sucks when your container is too thick to fit in the receptacle....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cheaper than other EVs, but GM has lost my trust. For decades they have had quality issues. Then the poorly executed Bolt recall just turned me off to GM. It will take a decade of good results to get me to consider them again.
I am mildly optimistic that in 2024 we will have many options on the 35,000 dollars and under price point.
Unfortunately except for GM and Nissan everybody else is aiming more upmarket.
Ford is working on an electric Puma, replacement for the Fiesta. They will bring it to the USA when hell freezes over, though, because "Americans only buy SUVs and trucks."
sluggish EV - more range.
That flickering on the wheel is terrible!
It’s not visible to the human eye. It’s part of the driver monitoring for super cruise - Nikki
A very suburban test route. I didn't see a single cyclist or pedestrian.
th e chevy bolt has exactly the same problem as the nissan leaf; both were refreshed by total idiots who totally ignored the only flaw that mattered - the fact that their level 3 charging was no faster than their level 2 charging. total failure foe chevy and nissan.
in this day and age that is an unpardonable sin.
I am quite disappointed that the Equinox EV is going to be FWD - any bespoke EV should be RWD or AWD. There is no excuse for an Ultium platform EV to be a front wheel drive - period.