Crunched nose right there at the tow ring on a 2020 GTX where someone rammed the dock. I can see through to outside from engine compartment. How do you fix that? I can't seem to find a replacement hull. What would happen if you did traditional fiberglass and paint?
Probably a stupid question. I got a GTX 230 2023 model. I got scratch’s in my hull. I’m trying to fill these hulls in. Trying to figure out if it’s gel coat or acrylic. It’s a ST3 hull and here is my question. Is ST3 the same as CMTEC?
I’ve just done a full lower hull repair that had a 2 foot by 12 in hole in a 2019 GTX CM TEC hull Hole was below the fuel tank extending forward . Painted complete lower hull
@@kamax7672 I had my friend in the boat yard fix it It’s also in the shop manual A guy in Brp also told me what to use but it’s on my old phone I’ll try dig it out
@@garygarnett6469 thanks gary, I have the seadoo procedure list , but its not as detailed as i would like i.e what products to use etc. I may opt to use gator glide as an alternative to paint.
Can you please provide more information how to repair scratches on GTX hull ? I was looking to gelcoat repair kits, but now I'm not sure if they can be used on acrilyc...
I've had (2) RXT-X skis, both of which have had carbon seal replacements. Because of playing around on them, as I understand it, all of those forces from the impeller end up at the carbon seal. I was willing to live with this because I like the amenities that sea-doo provides and I like the ride, but... I've just had to total out my 2020 RXT-X because this time those forces cracked the hull in several places around the carbon seal location, through and through. This was all lake riding. They do not offer a hull replacement and no repair shop would touch it because of the location of the break. I've just bought a 2023 Yamaha FX SVHO Limited. Hopefully I don't have to become a part time mechanic to enjoy the ski as I did with the Sea-doo.
Hey Kevin, a few folks including myself have had some small surface cracks in the deck of our 2020-21 Gti’s. Mines not too bad just a spot around where you place your heel when sitting backwards towing. Some guys think it could be from wax. I think its stress cracks. Could this be from climbing up on them while they are on the trailer?
Absolutely none of these. Wax? For what? There's zero paint. The cracking in the acrylic is from stress on the water, not the trailer. Boats flex, particularly in rough conditions (or jumping), which may result in stress fractures.
Hi, I really enjoy polishing and shining up my toys. With my 2021 rxpx and 2022 rxpx being acrylic, what do I use for a polish and compound to shine it up. Also can I use a graphine coating after.
Of course, BRP will tell you to use their XPS cleaners and wax. We've found most automotive grade waxes and polishes to work well, but not at the same luster as Yamaha's paint.
Speaking of hull issues... I’ve been into PWCs since the 80s and the intro of Kawi js330 and 440 models. When sit-down models showed up, I went to those and never went back to stand ups. My last 2-stroke was a XLT1200 Yamaha, so I’ve had Yamahas for many years. In 2016 my XLT finally got to the point it needed an (second rebuilt) engine. It was time to get a 4-stroke. I bought a FX HO. It was great, never had ANY issues with it. I put some Riva stuff on it here and there and it was a reliable and fun ski for many years. It even had a proper OEM installed bilge pump. In 2021, I decided it was time to upgrade to a SVHO model. I sold my 2016 FX HO. This is where my relationship with Yamaha goes wrong. Because of the shortages, I didn’t get to take delivery of my 2021 FX SVHO ski until July. According to the mfg date on the interior sticker, it was only 2 weeks out of the factory. I was aware of some of the quality issues being reported with Yamahas such as sloppy graphics alignments, etc., but a look over of my machine only revealed that one of the handlebar panels was hastily installed leaving an alignment pin out next to the right handlebar. That was all that was openly visible. No electric bilge pump. Cost cutting? Wonder when that got thrown out. Now, is when it goes downhill fast… The following weekend, after setting up the ski to my preferences, I fill the tank up and head for the ramp. I park my truck, fire up the ski and start warming it up. First thing I notice is that neutral is not neutral. It’s pulling forward. Hmmmm. Next, the fuel gauge says it’s 95%. 92% if I shift my weight. Even with fuel so full, it’s in the filler neck, this reading doesn’t change. It’s break in time so I get out on the lake to see what else is wrong since my list is already at 3 items. Over the next 2 outings, no more issues are found, until… Walking back to my truck after tying off at the dock for extraction on the ramp, I noticed long, red streaks on my trailer bunks. Crap. The paint on my hull had rubbed off on the bunks, after only 3x in the water. I had only 7-8 hours on it at this point and by now was pretty pissed at the growing list of items wrong with this brand-new ski I just paid $20k for. I hit 12 hours and take it in to my dealer for my 10-hour break-in service. It’s now October. My list of items to be fixed is: gas gauge, handlebar panel re-install, bucket adjustment to fix neutral, the hull paint. It is now Feb 16th and I haven’t seen my ski since I dropped it off. Regular check-ins with my dealer for updates are usually met with the phrase: “We are waiting on Yamaha to…”blah blah blah. The latest update as of Feb 12th is that the neutral can’t be fixed; the gas gauge required testing of the sending unit but after request, Yamaha didn’t supply any ohm specs to test it against; the dealer has sent multiple pics of the hull and had back-and-forth calls with them but after 4 months, still no authorization to re-paint or fix. Yamaha, you’ve known for a LONG time the Nano 2 hulls are prone to cracking and have paint issues! Now, I’ve had a LONG list of new cars, trucks, bikes, and PWCs before. I’ve come to expect that all of them have their quality issues to deal with when new but this is just getting out of control. I don’t feel like I’m unreasonable in understanding this, but when a mfg doesn’t stand by their product and make it right, this is where I take my money and allegiance elsewhere. Riding season is starting up here at Lake Lanier. We’ve already had 1 ride (Jet Riders) this year that I couldn’t attend. Yamaha, you are on the verge of losing a LONG-time customer. Get your shit together or I’ll be going back to Kawi or Sea-Doo.
Austen, thank you for this note. It was very thoughtful and well articulated. Unfortunately, we've seen severe dips in quality control in recent months and years. We're hoping to see improvements with coming models, but again, we all need to do our due diligence prior to buying.
@@watercraftjournal I agree, but due diligence wouldn't have found the problems that I've run into with bad hull paint, bad fuel gauge, and bad bucket adjustment. These items are what a warranty is for. I can accept that a new ski isn't perfect. What I can't accept is a company that won't stand behind a product costing almost $20k. Four months my dealer has been fighting Yamaha and nothing has been done because Yamaha wants to play the back and forth game, primarily on hull paint which is a known issue!
Per the handle bars and bucket alignment, these are certainly sure to be warrantied, as they were pretty common repairs in '21. The fuel gauge was a massive pain for many (including yourself). Sadly, the hull issue will be bucked. They will claim that you ran up the bunks too quickly or didn't launch your ski with the trailer deep enough. Why? I've already heard others with the same complaint get the same response. (Sorry to be the messenger on that one.) The paint thickness, adhesion and durability are well below many buyer's expectations and Yamaha hasn't made moves that would say that they're interested in correcting the bad PR. Again, I'm sorry to relay this news - it's just what I have been shown over the year.
@@watercraftjournal If that’s the case, then Yamaha will be losing a lifelong customer. Seems like a big gamble for a company NOT to take care of its customers when the item they produce is a discretionary purchase. Thanks for the chat! :)
Crunched nose right there at the tow ring on a 2020 GTX where someone rammed the dock. I can see through to outside from engine compartment. How do you fix that? I can't seem to find a replacement hull. What would happen if you did traditional fiberglass and paint?
Probably a stupid question. I got a GTX 230 2023 model. I got scratch’s in my hull. I’m trying to fill these hulls in. Trying to figure out if it’s gel coat or acrylic. It’s a ST3 hull and here is my question. Is ST3 the same as CMTEC?
yes
I’ve just done a full lower hull repair that had a 2 foot by 12 in hole in a 2019 GTX CM TEC hull
Hole was below the fuel tank extending forward . Painted complete lower hull
Yikes! Yeah, we've seen most people just ending up painting the entire hull too.
Hey Gary, what procedures did you use on the repair. I have to do the same thing soon ,but thankfully not as bad as yours!
@@kamax7672 I had my friend in the boat yard fix it
It’s also in the shop manual
A guy in Brp also told me what to use but it’s on my old phone I’ll try dig it out
@@garygarnett6469 thanks gary, I have the seadoo procedure list , but its not as detailed as i would like i.e what products to use etc. I may opt to use gator glide as an alternative to paint.
Can you please provide more information how to repair scratches on GTX hull ? I was looking to gelcoat repair kits, but now I'm not sure if they can be used on acrilyc...
I've had (2) RXT-X skis, both of which have had carbon seal replacements. Because of playing around on them, as I understand it, all of those forces from the impeller end up at the carbon seal. I was willing to live with this because I like the amenities that sea-doo provides and I like the ride, but... I've just had to total out my 2020 RXT-X because this time those forces cracked the hull in several places around the carbon seal location, through and through. This was all lake riding. They do not offer a hull replacement and no repair shop would touch it because of the location of the break. I've just bought a 2023 Yamaha FX SVHO Limited. Hopefully I don't have to become a part time mechanic to enjoy the ski as I did with the Sea-doo.
Makes no sense why they don't offer a replacement hull. Do you know why?
Hey Kevin, a few folks including myself have had some small surface cracks in the deck of our 2020-21 Gti’s. Mines not too bad just a spot around where you place your heel when sitting backwards towing. Some guys think it could be from wax. I think its stress cracks. Could this be from climbing up on them while they are on the trailer?
Absolutely none of these. Wax? For what? There's zero paint. The cracking in the acrylic is from stress on the water, not the trailer. Boats flex, particularly in rough conditions (or jumping), which may result in stress fractures.
Hi, I really enjoy polishing and shining up my toys. With my 2021 rxpx and 2022 rxpx being acrylic, what do I use for a polish and compound to shine it up. Also can I use a graphine coating after.
Of course, BRP will tell you to use their XPS cleaners and wax. We've found most automotive grade waxes and polishes to work well, but not at the same luster as Yamaha's paint.
Speaking of hull issues... I’ve been into PWCs since the 80s and the intro of Kawi js330 and 440 models. When sit-down models showed up, I went to those and never went back to stand ups. My last 2-stroke was a XLT1200 Yamaha, so I’ve had Yamahas for many years. In 2016 my XLT finally got to the point it needed an (second rebuilt) engine. It was time to get a 4-stroke. I bought a FX HO. It was great, never had ANY issues with it. I put some Riva stuff on it here and there and it was a reliable and fun ski for many years. It even had a proper OEM installed bilge pump.
In 2021, I decided it was time to upgrade to a SVHO model. I sold my 2016 FX HO. This is where my relationship with Yamaha goes wrong.
Because of the shortages, I didn’t get to take delivery of my 2021 FX SVHO ski until July. According to the mfg date on the interior sticker, it was only 2 weeks out of the factory. I was aware of some of the quality issues being reported with Yamahas such as sloppy graphics alignments, etc., but a look over of my machine only revealed that one of the handlebar panels was hastily installed leaving an alignment pin out next to the right handlebar. That was all that was openly visible. No electric bilge pump. Cost cutting? Wonder when that got thrown out. Now, is when it goes downhill fast…
The following weekend, after setting up the ski to my preferences, I fill the tank up and head for the ramp. I park my truck, fire up the ski and start warming it up. First thing I notice is that neutral is not neutral. It’s pulling forward. Hmmmm. Next, the fuel gauge says it’s 95%. 92% if I shift my weight. Even with fuel so full, it’s in the filler neck, this reading doesn’t change. It’s break in time so I get out on the lake to see what else is wrong since my list is already at 3 items. Over the next 2 outings, no more issues are found, until…
Walking back to my truck after tying off at the dock for extraction on the ramp, I noticed long, red streaks on my trailer bunks. Crap. The paint on my hull had rubbed off on the bunks, after only 3x in the water. I had only 7-8 hours on it at this point and by now was pretty pissed at the growing list of items wrong with this brand-new ski I just paid $20k for.
I hit 12 hours and take it in to my dealer for my 10-hour break-in service. It’s now October. My list of items to be fixed is: gas gauge, handlebar panel re-install, bucket adjustment to fix neutral, the hull paint. It is now Feb 16th and I haven’t seen my ski since I dropped it off. Regular check-ins with my dealer for updates are usually met with the phrase: “We are waiting on Yamaha to…”blah blah blah. The latest update as of Feb 12th is that the neutral can’t be fixed; the gas gauge required testing of the sending unit but after request, Yamaha didn’t supply any ohm specs to test it against; the dealer has sent multiple pics of the hull and had back-and-forth calls with them but after 4 months, still no authorization to re-paint or fix. Yamaha, you’ve known for a LONG time the Nano 2 hulls are prone to cracking and have paint issues!
Now, I’ve had a LONG list of new cars, trucks, bikes, and PWCs before. I’ve come to expect that all of them have their quality issues to deal with when new but this is just getting out of control. I don’t feel like I’m unreasonable in understanding this, but when a mfg doesn’t stand by their product and make it right, this is where I take my money and allegiance elsewhere. Riding season is starting up here at Lake Lanier. We’ve already had 1 ride (Jet Riders) this year that I couldn’t attend. Yamaha, you are on the verge of losing a LONG-time customer. Get your shit together or I’ll be going back to Kawi or Sea-Doo.
Austen, thank you for this note. It was very thoughtful and well articulated. Unfortunately, we've seen severe dips in quality control in recent months and years. We're hoping to see improvements with coming models, but again, we all need to do our due diligence prior to buying.
@@watercraftjournal I agree, but due diligence wouldn't have found the problems that I've run into with bad hull paint, bad fuel gauge, and bad bucket adjustment. These items are what a warranty is for. I can accept that a new ski isn't perfect. What I can't accept is a company that won't stand behind a product costing almost $20k. Four months my dealer has been fighting Yamaha and nothing has been done because Yamaha wants to play the back and forth game, primarily on hull paint which is a known issue!
Per the handle bars and bucket alignment, these are certainly sure to be warrantied, as they were pretty common repairs in '21. The fuel gauge was a massive pain for many (including yourself). Sadly, the hull issue will be bucked. They will claim that you ran up the bunks too quickly or didn't launch your ski with the trailer deep enough. Why? I've already heard others with the same complaint get the same response. (Sorry to be the messenger on that one.) The paint thickness, adhesion and durability are well below many buyer's expectations and Yamaha hasn't made moves that would say that they're interested in correcting the bad PR. Again, I'm sorry to relay this news - it's just what I have been shown over the year.
@@watercraftjournal If that’s the case, then Yamaha will be losing a lifelong customer. Seems like a big gamble for a company NOT to take care of its customers when the item they produce is a discretionary purchase. Thanks for the chat! :)
What if you smash a hole right through the hull ???
Hello my girls dad wants to buy two Jetskis what ones does he get
Whichever ones fit his budget, riding style, conditions he plans on riding in, intended use and riding ability.
Nice, i just learned something new.
Glad we could help
Sea doo always worst quality