Should I Get Re-Baptized? Examining How Jehovah's Witnesses Have Invalidated Baptism
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I never saw the importance of baptism before because i thought it was nothing more than a public declaration of faith. But now that I understand it I am aware of its great importance. Thank you for this good research.
@@stopcensorship7365 From what I understand,If you feel that the dedication you made was to the Father in Heaven, you don't need to do another baptism because The Father has approved of you.But if you did it for other reasons like to please parents and family or for privileges or to remove the mark on your back ( if you're done studying and don't get baptised within 6 months you are a marked person in the congregation)
If the dedication you made was to The Creator you don't have to redo it.
How do you know ? If you feel it was wrong , you should probably redo it.but if you Don't you're also good.
Your reasoning is flawless. Point for point accurate. Thank you so much
Thank you for saying that.
This is a very powerful piece of information that has plagued me for years , even the day i was baptised standing in front of huundreds of people i recall feeling uneasy about the contract of being being a part of jehovahs organisation , where does it say this in the bible - the org is a modern day bunch of pharasees , and wen christ truly returns he will call them the sons of vipers , full of human ideologies , lies , false prophecies and doctrins
JW's used fraudulent words to baptize me back in 1990. I was just a child and I clearly asked two things. I asked: Do you follow the bible and only the bible in your laws? and am I baptized in accordance with the bible teachings? They said yes but later when I grew up to adulthood I understood they lied to me. I was been baptized in the name of their Organization. And they rule with their unscriptural laws. because of that, I asked to leave and they disfellowshipped me. What can I say? I was full of fake friends who don't speak to me now. I live in Greece. Thanks, bro Eric for everything.
When I was baptised (1976) the questions were not about the org or being a JW but just in the name of the father son and holy spirit. Prior to that baptism we were required to inform our former religion if baptised in that we were no longer a member and to take our name of a list. When giving prayers at meetings usually always they say heavenly father, yet are not they just friends, yet JW call Jehovah heavenly father, according to the GB of JW the GC are the other sheep and are not in the same relationship to call God father, they are reminded time and time again we are only just friends until we prove ourselves worthy after the thousand years as we work towards perfection, it really is them and us and to work for our salvation invalidates faith in Christ sacrifice that we have this hope of being called children of God though our baptism.
A Wrong Concept
ALL are His Children !
Therefore ALL Can call HIM FATHER !!
😉👌 Believe it !
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@@akatheheretic3014 Yes JW have it wrong all are Gods children.
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"Abba Father" ! 😉
Romans 8:15
Amen my Brother!!! Thank you so very much for this video and such a wonderful explanation. I look forward to watching it again. This is something that has been on mind ever since I left the Witnesses and have strived to be a true Christian. Thank you so very much and may God Bless your ministry. I pray so very earnestly we reach the hearts of those tied to the WBTS.
You look to be in good shape! God bless you, brother! You are in my prayers! 🙏🏻
Thank you, I will
What a wake up video! I never thought about the whole dedication part of JW baptism! They put more importance on the dedication than the baptism! I’m hoping my pimo husband will listen to your video again with me. Thank you Eric for all your insight! Waking up from JW control has been like a spiritual rebirth!
I'm so glad to hear that your husband is open to watching these videos, that's such a good sign. God bless, love your Christian sister xo
Amen sister amen 💜💙❤️
Thank you brother for bringing me peace of mind....I too, had this concern....may our heavenly Father continue to bless your efforts.....
Great explanation 👏Thank You very much 😊On Tuesday I will be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ I can't wait ❤
Wonderful!
That’s lovely! Congratulations
I have studied for a long time with Jehovas witnesses and although I love Jehovah and Jesus iv not been baptised because iv never trusted the governing body . I keep giving up my study and read my bible at home but now iv found the truth in your channel I can see clearly that I was right to be worried. You speak the truth . Now I will continue to watch all of your videos and feel so much better about the way iv been feeling cause I felt unfaithful. Thank you so much Eric, now I have to find someone to baptize me. Thanks again.
Where are you located? I might know of someone in your area.
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As my earlier questions suggest . . I too would like to Know if Someone in My vicinity (Bronx, N.Y.) is Truly Qualified to Perform a Proper Baptism . 😐
@@akatheheretic3014 I'll ask at tomorrow's meeting
@@BeroeanPickets
Thank you. 🙂
Thank you for addressing this problem. I too am in a, position of nowhere to go for baptism. I wouldn't think approaching an evangelical church or anything that is paganistic for baptism without becoming a church member would be viable.
I agree with your interpretation of this matter deducing from scripture. I mentioned to someone many months ago that as much as I resisted baptism with JW's I would actually like to be baptised individually outside of that establishment without a conveyer belt approach .. I feel that your video has cleared alot up & even if I cannot immediately resolve this I can now at least set my mind in the right direction & God willing I will know what to do if the opportunity arises.
Thank you
Excellent Eric.
Thank you like always for your hard work for the truth and the real teaching of the bible.
We don't need anything else
I'm absolutely amazed. Thank you so much. I've been completely confused on this matter my entire adult life. I am 58 years old and can now finally get baptised, as this knowledge you've shared has made perfect sense. Thank you .
When I was finding out about all of the lawsuits with the child cases, I remember I trying to have a deep conversation with my grandmother who is a devout witness about the truth of things and about the truth of the things that she has seen and she knows regarding that issue. Then I also told her I worried that my baptism was invalid because I was giving my allegiance to an organization and not to God and we should not swear oaths. Of course she kicked me out of her house but really that has always been on my mind and hasn't left and as I look today I find the video pop up exactly of what I was thinking about. You going to it with such great detail it matches my intuition and I thank God that he has put people in play that really cares about the same subjects and sheds light on it.
I'm definitely going to have to get rebaptized like I always felt I should.
Thank you for your help in understanding the true meaning of baptism! Thanks a million also for the great effort and time you take in producing these great videos to help us along the journey. May you go on forever.
@Starboy1- Glad it was helpful!
@@BeroeanPickets Satan and those under his influence often mix lies with truths in an attempt to undermine our faith. (2Co 11:3) For example, the Assyrians used half-truths and outright lies to discourage Jehovah’s people. (2Ch 32:10-15) Apostates use similar tactics today. How should we react to apostate teachings? Treat them as the poison they are! Never read them, reply to them, or repeat them. Be quick to detect information that is designed to raise doubts about Jehovah and his organization-and reject it!-Jude 3, 4. (Romans 16:17) Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.
(Acts 20:30) and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.
Apostates like yourself enjoy mocking others. (Ps. 123:4) The Bible warned that in the last days, there would be no shortage of ridiculers. (2 Pet. 3:3, 4) Like the sons-in-law of righteous Lot, some people today pay no attention to divine warnings. (Gen. 19:14) Many laugh at those who live by Bible principles. The ridiculers are motivated by “their own desires for ungodly things.” (Jude 7, 17, 18)
Excellent video Eric. So simply explained. God bless you my brother. Doing a wonderful work in connection with the Lord.
Wonderfully, comprehensively, yet simply explained, thank you so much Eric.
This has to be the best baptism talk I have ever heard.
It is a real eye opener as to what is required of us to be identified as Christians by our Lord Jesus Christ and His Father Jehovah Almighty.
1.Baptism in the Name of The Lord Jesus Christ which requires no special ritual or vow.
2. Eating the Bread and Wine at the Memorial of the Lord's Death in our behalf as a Ransom.
3. Living a Righteous and Morally upright life in accordance to the Godly Principles and Teachings Our Lord Jesus Christ gave us which is recorded in the Bible.
Thank You Bro Eric for this video may Our Lord and Our Heavenly Father look upon you with favour always.
One of the best presentation Br.Eric,keep going 👍
Thanks, will do!
Bless you! You have explained this point so clearly. You have removed a heavy weight from off me.
Another helpful and informative video which will guide people who want to understand what is really required for a correct baptism, this way they can reason for their selves the path to take.
As always, I thank you for all your time and efforts in helping us find our way.
Thank you Eric, your explanation is very clear. I hope to get baptized very soon. Hope you are recovered. Monique🌺
Wonderful news
Thank you brother. I did indeed have several questions about getting baptized but you answered all my questions and concerns.
I have been rebaptized and was so very worried about its validity. Thank you for bringing some clarity to the subject.
Thanks so much for sharing! I appreciate you delivering your knowledge & expertise when it comes from the bible. God bless you!
Another video I’ve been blessed with, thank you brother
Thank you. God willing, more to come!
Thank you so very much Eric clearing up many things for me. I've been thinking about being Being re baptized for over two and a half years now and I did not want to be baptized into a church or an organization that teaches false things. I live in Louisiana right outside of New Orleans if you could find someone in my area please let me know I have this burning desire to be re-baptized the proper way into Jesus Christ. I am now in my seventies and have wasted over 50 years of my life in the Borg. I know you are busy but please if you can find someone in my area I would appreciate it very much my brother in Christ.
@R wide awake - The main thing is to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. In the face of eternity, "wasting" 50 years is really not so bad, but I know how you feel. If I can think of anyone in your area I will let you know.
Ronnie I hope you find some one I am in the same boat 45 years in JW Cult
Last Sunday I was invited recently to a babtism of two men simply dipped under the water in a friend's heated Swimming Pool
The minister baptised them in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit .
The bible reading before hand was 2 cor 5 12 -21
Be Reconciled with God .
I am sure in the two men hearts they believed they were baptised in the name of Jesus.
A Ministers wife once told me if you made changes in your life and every one saw the change in you , your Baptism counts
If you have been baptised before the Church will not Babtise you again
But as the Brother said any other Believing Christain can Babtise you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ
God Bless
England 🏴
Thank you Eric for the wonderful video, I hope that many will benefit from what you have said and will be baptized in the name of Christ.
I hope so too! Thank you.
Привет, Илья! 👋🏼🙂
Рад встретить Вас здесь. Пересмотрел все переведённые видосы на Вашем канале и в последние недели смотрю остальное здесь. 😊
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Hello Eric! 👋🏼🙂
Please tell us how you can be baptized if there is not just a single Christian nearby, but there are no people at all. I have been living in social isolation for six years now due to serious incurable diseases. All I can do is go with great difficulty to the nearest store to buy food once a month. 😕
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Great video Eric! One of my many questions I’ve been having. Definitely will prayerfully take this to mind and study all these references you’ve provided. I will also be looking forward to your next video of the trinity, which is one of the subjects I’ve been dedicating my time to researching.
Thank you Eric, this was also something I often wondered, & now I know.
2016 was the last memorial I attended in a KH. Everyone watched me partake of the emblems. Bread & wine.
They looked at me like I was a freak.
Watchtower was so determined to dissuade anyone from partaking of the emblems that they included "emotional problems" in an article that they published on whether to partake or not. It seemed that Watchtower was afraid that everyone might start partaking.
In 1980s watchtower /awake article stated that it is only the Gov. Body or the congregation overseer can say whether you are fit to partake of the emblems. 2000 onwards they just make you feel awkward. They do not know your relationship with God or Jesus. They cannot read hearts.
I desperately need to be baptized.
me too...
Last Sunday, I was baptized in the name of Jezus Christ. Thanks again for your explanation about baptism. Monique 🌺
Congratulations sister. Welcome to the family of God. You're now a born- again of water and Spirit John 3:3-5. You didn't become member of any denomination, much less an ORG. but of the kingdom of God. You're now a new creation,9ld things are new,fresh start. Talk to God,& read His word daily. Yoyr salvation solely depends on your faith& relationship with your heavenly father. Feel free to message me to talk or pray 💜💜🙏😃
@@anaanguiano6658 How nice of you ! Thank you very much, this is a wonderful answer on my prayer. I felt a little bit alone, best regards Monique 🙏🏻🌺
@@MN-xs8ku You're not alone,God is with you, you're not alone God is with you til death. If you do God's will it's all good
Read the scriptures alone. Y he truth is there
Thank you as always! Very clear and simple!
You are a smart and godly man, i have to tell you that. Thank you very much for your presentation and your effort to explain it to us sinful people as best you can. I wish you a higher number of people who watch your videos and explore everything first. the bible itself says it looks for silver and gold.
Thank you very much for this video...it has cleared up a LOT of inconsistencies as regards baptism and the Memorial (How it should really be observed). Now...I need only to act on this information in my own life. Thank you.
I enjoy your videos. Thank you for this. Because it clears up the issue of partaking.
My pleasure
It would be great to have a group to meet with in person i haven't had that sense leaving the Herbert Armstrong cult. But I appreciate Eric's videos, he's doing a good work.
thank you eric, you have such wisdom,
Thank you. What a joy it is for all of us in that this wisdom is available freely from Scripture. The Lord leads us all to truth.😊
Thanks Meleti! Very good Work. Gott bless you.
Thank you! You too!
A very great didactic video from you again!!
Glad you liked it!
EXCELLENTLY EXPLAINED!!! Thanks
Thank you brother Eric, your video about “ to whom to we go” was convinced me and my wife to step out from Organization. I have the same opinion about baptism but is very hard to find someone to baptize us,here in Europe is very hard to find because most of different denomination members consider that only pastor and preachers must baptize, We try that,but all wants to learn the statement of faith for that and to be agree with that, so we still looking nondenominational christians for baptism, we find some congregations like that hwo are stepped out from charismatic movements and now they are nondenominational , but still in another country. We keep searching! Thank you for your effort, may Jehovah bless you.
Why don't you baptize each other? That would surely be acceptable to our Lord.
I suggest that if you and your wife agree with one another on the issue of baptism, then why not baptize one another? I don't see any prohibition in Scripture on that.
@@BeroeanPickets ☺️ I was think about that but I consider that baptism should be made by another new born brother, and I think here about baptism hwo John the Baptist maded and one hwo is maded in the name of Jesus witch including a total different anointing as was described in Acts 19:1-6, this is something who bothers me always when I read those verses. Specially in today’s video when you realize that our baptism was canceled by organizations, so , is like we never get baptized, wich is true when me and my wife we think “ what was in our head when we accepted the organization baptism!
@@tsevaoth Greetings. I wish that you come to faith in Jesus Christ as your only Savior who died in your place to pay for your sins, Jesus, the only truth, and way,and life. If you believe in Him. then you can be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ as a symbol of death to sin, buried,and raised to a new life on Christ. Not to an ORG, or Church.
I'd find a church that baptizes in Jesus name,attend their baptism studies then ask to he baptized. It does have to be by a baptized believer. Remember, it's just to be baptized, but if you'd like to stay for the fellowship with believers you can. Remember you're not bound to any church you're bound to God Look for churches that are of the faith in Jesus Christ, ie maybe UPC-United Oentecostal Churches.
Your salvation solely depends on your relationship with God
@@BeroeanPickets I love 💕 that idea 💡 ♥, not only would it be a demonstration of the love of the Christ but also the ultimate demonstration of love for each other in Christ.
excellent material. Answered big questions for me. thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Ce sujet m'a touché en plein cœur. Il s’agit de ne pas se formaliser excessivement, mais de faire le plongeon tout simplement, attendu qu'il s'agit essentiellement d'un acte entre Dieu et moi seul, comme en témoigne le récit du baptême de l'eunuque éthiopien. Merci, Eric. // _This subject touched my heart. It's about not overly formalizing, but simply taking the plunge, since it is essentially an act between God and me alone, as the story of the Ethiopian eunuch's baptism attests. Thank you, Eric._
When I was baptized in Bosnia in 1995 as a Jehovah's Witness. I secretly worked for the army and nobody knew about it in the congregation. When I told the elders in Canada in 2015, they contacted Bethel and cancelled my baptism.
Now we can see why they added that last question. Without it, they'd have no legal authority to cancel anyone's baptism. I think they dropped "spirit directed" for the same reason.
very nice video well done and well explained thank you so much may YHWH bless your ministry.
Thank you! You too!
Thank you bro wilson you answered my question on baptism. God bless you and your videos
@Bobbie Mattson -- thank you and my pleasure!
I came to this conclusion by myself, but never knew that anyone else thought this too.
Exact same here! Welcome brother!
I saw what you did there ... didn’t answer the question directly 😉.
I have always had a problem with dedication because it seemed like a something approved (like a Nazarite vow), but that was excess to requirements. I had never considered Jesus command about vows. Very moving.
Thank you for your ministry. This was the first year ever that I drank the wine and ate of the bread.
This was my second time to partake. It's wonderful to be free of Watchtower's crooked little double-talk traditions.
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. It is so hard to find people on the YT who was a JW and left that still Love Jehovah and Jesus. Most of them leave Jehovah too, they throw out the baby with the bath water, so to speak and even tho I understand their anger Jehovah did nothing to them.
Thank-you for your response. 🤗
John the Baptist received the Holy Ghost in his mothers womb, I wouldn't say he was a sinner but used of God for his purpose in the early church.
Thank you very much for the information! I've never been baptised, and how wondered for awhile if I could do it myself - this gave me the answer I was look for.
So yet again. Thank you!
Wonderful!
What is the difference between baptism and being born again? I was baptized Catholic, and recently studied with the witnesses for 2.5 years but there were too many things that stuck in my craw. The congregation were Beautiful devoted people and I love them, but I couldn't agree with the baptism restrictions and vows. When the lockdown came, I started following the Messianic Jewish tradition, where I partook in Passover and became born again. This meant I gave myself to the lord. So, now I'm confused. What is the difference between being baptized and being born again, if there is no water involved??? I keep hearing 2 schools of thought. "You must be baptized" "You must be born again" Which is it!
Wow!!! Now I don't know who I'm going to find to re-baptize me, I wish it was a brother rather than a sister though, because brothers in the Bible seem to be chosen to minister to a congregation, and perform those services, weddings, counsel, and baptisms.
EXCELLENT, thank you
Thank you as always, you make so much sense of the Scriptures. Can you direct me regarding the Trinity, as I started believing it?
I hope my next video on the Trinity, to be released on Friday, will help you address that question.
Simple, yet amazing, using the braiding of the hair. Each strand of hair contains the same properties, yet each strand is distinct from the other. Christ says For every hair on our head is numbered.
Hair number 222 is distinct from number 223, and 224, but each strand is still hair.
Now, it takes three strands to make one braid. Three strands, one braid. Repeat three strands one braid.
The Godhead, or trinity, have 3 persons, but make one God.
Each person has the same properties to be considered God, yet each person is distinct from the other.
Like the three strands subsist, meaning each person exists on its own, so do the three persons of the Godhead subsist.
The F, never becomes the S, or HS. The S, never becomes the F or HS. The HS, never becomes the F or the S.
Such teaching is modalism and is thus heresy.
Now, God, in infinite wisdom, placed the trinity on our heads to be closest to him and to honor him.
Now, everytime you see a person with braids, baptized or not, they are unwittingly honoring God.
Therefore, those who do not believe the trinity teaching, should never braid their hair. They should cut off their hair, so they won't have to worry about.
Three strands, one braid.
Three persons, one Godhead.
Simple, yet amazing !
How great, is YHWH!!!
@@BeroeanPickets I can't wait:-)
@@BeroeanPickets I can't wait:-)
@@andrewatson3992 Making an illustration doesn't constitute proof. Illustrations are used to explain a truth once it has been established. Otherwise, you can make the illustration into proof of anything. Instead of three hairs, how about four or five intertwined. That works as well. How about all the hairs of the head intertwined. Now we have the basis to "prove" Hinduism, when we all become one with God.
When I was df'd I was "no longer one of Jehovah's witnesses. " When I got reinstated, I asked if I needed to get rebaptized, and the elders told me no. What gives?
Likely because you are still playing under the WT made up rules. Your baptism was mostly a contract for you to be disciplined under the GB rules and permission to affect your family relationship greatly. They excommunicated you by a stroke of a pen and reinstated you in the same manner. If you are truly waking up and can see that the organization is your middle man to Jehovah and not Jesus, then you would continue your personal prayers, study and growth to fully comprehend what a valid baptism and relationship via christ is. This video is an excellent start to your research and decision.
@@sammyytube5999 leave them ...better late then never. They are a wellknown cult. Focus on JESUS
You’re only to be baptized once. But if you turn to mainstream Christianity, you would have to be baptized again, into the Trinity.
Your baptism is to represent your hope. When Jesus said at Matthew 28:19 baptizing them in the name, the phrase in the name of something simply means what it's called for. If it's called for you to have a heavenly hope, you get baptized in a symbol of that. If it's called for you to have a earthly hope you get baptized in a symbol of that. It's the power of one ; Ephesians 4: 5 one lord, one faith, one baptism. You can not compare how this system of things do things, compared to how God do things. For we are not Jesus Christ, we are only the brides of the christ.
That SECOND question is the one that raises a Red Flag in my mind.
I question the validity of water baptism. Water baptism was the baptism of John the Bpatizer. He baptized 'his' disciples with water. Even John the NB acknowledged that the one coming after him was GREATER than he and who would 'baptize' with "Holy Spirit and fire." (Matthew Chapter 3)
It is interesting that John the B did not want to baptize Jesus with his baptism (with water). Yet, Jesus allowed it this last time. Why? To show that water baptism would end and a new and greater baptism had arrived.
If Jesus' baptism is greater, why are so many STILL associating baptism with water?
Why do we NOT read of any instances of Jesus baptizing his chosen ones (Apostles) and disciples with water?
We DO see an outpouring of Jesus' baptism on Pentecost 33 upon his disciples. (Acts Chapter 2)
Those who get baptized in water are ignoring the greater baptism. Water baptism is a ritual and the baptism of John the B, not that of Jesus [the] Christ.
This is a serious matter.
One knows something is wrong when the masses associate baptism with water rather than with Holy Spirit and fire.
I believe the world has been misled in this regard.
Thus neither The One True God and His Son are not be listened to or obeyed. (Luke 9:35 and Matthew 3:17)
John the B's baptism was for the reptenance of sins, not for the forgiveness or washing away of them. Only the greater baptism of Jesus Christ - Holy Spirit and fire - forgives and washes away the sins of the entire world thanks to his sacificial death in behalf of ALL ... ALL of the dead will be resurrected because of him. (John 5:28-29)
His shed blood has more power than water.
Thank you
What should I do? Go to Babylon and get baptized?
@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. not sure! Why not
@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. that's what you called baptized with fire
@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. new light😂
Let the Lord lead you, don't stress about it.
@@naa2024 Thanks 🤗
Catholics and Jehovahs witnesses are basically the same in many aspects. Both churches remain a group of men telling others they must honor God in the way they direct in order to be acceptable to him. The biggest difference, outside of organizational doctrine claiming it is from scripture, is the costumes.
busymountain, yes, costumes are so telling!
@@wendywiens4209 I was using humor to make my point. They are virtually identical in the control they demand. It’s so hard to see these things when you are involved in the congregation and not looking at things objectively. It’s so funny how witnesses are trained to recommend looking at false religion with a critical eye and examine all things in light of scripture. However when you are established then looking at things with a critical eye is not recommended especially when those questions are aimed at organizational doctrine. Simply asking the wrong questions gets negative attention from the think cops.
@@busymountain I agree with you on that
@Neal Fernan can you please give us some specifics..
@Neal Fernan great testimony....thanks
I'm not baptized I was close to baptism
Find someone who knows Jesus Christ and get baptized. Lalo 26
@@jomelo7692 I know Jesus more than all my homies
@@jomelo7692 I'll do that 👍
@@lalo2641 I think that is wonderful. And Lalo 26 you have to want Jesus in order to want get baptized so I knew your knowing Jesus was a given.
I definitely agree with you about the doctrine of ,baptism seems rather obvious. One only needs to read their bible. I always thought the bigger issue was thinking that being devoted to an organization rather than GOD was a dangerous idea. Although i don't always agree with you ido appreciate your desire to help people see the truth .But i find it very difficult to reason with someone who already has all the answers. Uphill battle so to speak
Question. You said that if the JWs disfellowship you even for trivial matters. Your baptism is invalidated. Would this mean the question one part or part two of the baptism or both.
Considering the Bible states if we get re-baptised at all it would be as if we were impaling Jesus again. Not allowed. So how can anyone say they can invalidate your baptism
Great Video, Thank-you Very Much for such clarity of the scriptures. I do have a question though, if one was baptized as a JW and faded away years ago, should one get rebaptized the proper way, in the Name of Jesus?
Thanks again. 🙏
You should follow your conscience on this. If you feel your baptism wasn't valid, then there is no downside to being rebaptized.
"if you are disfellowshipped, they have revoked your baptism!?" at 13:47
I'm wondering now since it's the first time I've heard this, Why then are baptized Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowshipped? Shouldn't the exclusion cease to apply when they revoked the baptism? 🙄
In my mind its like what came first, the chicken or the egg?
Maybe I misunderstood this?
My english isnt so well 😁
Amen, in other words I agree..
Although we must follow Jesus example,but there are 2occasions in the bible where I suspected they baptized baby.In the book of Act when Peter and Silas was praying there was an earthquake and during the same night they went to the house of the jailor and baptized every one in the house. Catholic church has something called confirmation when that baby got older and make him or her confess Christ as Savior.
Interesting. Of course, one's children are sanctified on the basis of the faith of the believer. (1 Corinthians 7:14)
Good day Eric Darrin here you said in the video get Baptized in the name of Jesus not the father and the Holy Spirit just making sure i hope this week to get rebaptized.
Hi Darrin, Yes that's all that is required, to be baptized in the name of Jesus. (Acts 2:38; 8:12; 10:48)
@@LosBereanos Thank you Eric my brother
They even remove the Ethiopian getting baptised scripture to back up their list of requirements
I am really praying about how to or if to re-baptize as a Christian dedicated to Jehovah God and in the name of with deference and respect for the chief perfecter of the faith, our Lord Christ Jesus. Local churches that believe in the Trinity I cannot do that, because I do not believe that, so it’s difficult to find a circumstance that meets my beliefs. So perhaps God will accept me as I am, because I dedicated myself to HIM, with respect for his SON, while recognizing at the time the JW organization was flawed.
I certainly empathize and sympathize. Unless you have a friend who is just as glad to be "awake" as you are, getting baptized could even mean asking a disinterested person to baptize you. Our physical disttances from one another plus Covid compounds the problem.
Greetings. I know and God knows more that you're sincere in your faith toward the 'God and son of god" of the WT. But it's their version, their Jesus & their gospel. You were baptized Into faith & allegiance to tneir org & teachings according to their "bible" which contradics the real Bible Hense we must learn the true gospel of the true Jesus & be baptized in His name. God bless you and your precious family
After 20 years of on and off studying with JW's, I decided to get Baptized because everyone thought it was time - I am so shy that it was a very difficult thing for me to do. I didn't answer the Baptism questions, again my shyness was almost disabling, but 2 other girls screamed them out so no one noticed. I guess I'm hoping I wasn't really Baptized. Could I be so lucky?
Oh, Jeanne...you made me chuckle. Are you really asking that question to the whole, cruel world? Remember that anyone at all can answer you here, so don't take anything to heart that anyone says to you... unless you want to.
Okay. Yes, sadly, I think you still got baptized. Maybe Watchtower will start strapping on those polygraph sensors and video taping the responses to the questions after seeing your post. :) But we are awake now, and glad to find others like ourselves here. Welcome.
I've thought about this for a while, I want to get rebaptised but I wanna do it right
Wish I could find somebody in or around Southeast Texas, ( Beaumont) that could baptize me...
Greetings. I'm happy to know you want to he baotized. That's a symbolism for death, burial & resurrection, like Jesus. Except we're dying to sin,& rising up from the water to a new life in Christ New creation, fresh start.
Look for a "church" of the faith in Jesus Christ,they baptize in Jesus name as Scripture says,Acts 2:38.
Remember, we attend a "church" to be baptized, as it baptized and to fellowship. You're not bound to that church,only to God.it should be like a family.Don't put your trust or faith In people,they're imperfect& broken & need help from God as we do.Trust only God, Read His word. The King James Bible. God bless you and your precious family
Im an orphan that grew up around JW family members they taught me several verses people in the Religion even thought i was Baptized since they taught me at a very young age but I've tried to find a relationship with God thru this religion Several times knocking on their Door 4 them to Slam the door in my face becuz the Elders are so Judgemental&Controlling they don't respect ur Opinion or Ur Boundaries at times so I have Failed even been lied to& been persecuted by the same organization that say they are Jesus like PLEASE tell me where i can find Knowledge Comfort & Other's that think like me as a Christian becuz I Agree with Alot of ur Videos but im looking for a Home to Really Get Away from a Narcistic Ex Wife&Start a New Life Dedicating myself to sumthn i truly Believe in that will help me mentally emotionally physiologically to Truly Heal from All the Abuse&Persecution I have Endured.
I live in Lansdale,PA Plz let me know if sumwhere near i can find a home so i can become a dedicated Christian to the point of Real Baptism Any Efforts Greatly Appreciate Ur Efforts. .
I'll be in Pennsyvania this weekend. Perhaps we could meet. I also know several in that state who would love to meet you. My email is meleti.vivlon@gmail.com
I sent a detailed e-mail yesterday morning now i feel like i sent it wrong becuz i still haven't got sum type of confirmation that leaves me in the Dark to create any plans.
Thank you for explaining this with the Holy Scriptures. You are right, Jehovah's Witnesses are not baptized in the name of Jesus. Instead they are baptized into a religious organization. Christians are baptized into Christ. It means we have turned away from the old life of sin to a new life in Jesus Christ.
The witnesses do not understand the true purpose and the profound spiritual truths of baptism. Let me explain these spiritual truths:
*The Purpose*
Baptism is significant in that it represents the forgiveness and cleansing from sin, that comes through faith in Jesus Christ. Baptism publicly acknowledges one's confession of faith and belief in the gospel message. It also symbolizes the sinner's entrance into the community of believers.
Biblical support: Acts 2: 38
"And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
To baptize in Jesus’ name means to do so in obedience to His power or authority.
Baptism is a outward confession of the experience that has occurred inwardly in a believer’s life. In water baptism we stand before God, confessing our identification as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.
It means we are publicly identifying with the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.
Baptism represents 3 profound spiritual truths of death, resurrection and cleansing*
*Death*
We live by faith in the Son of God, Jesus Christ lives in us.
The former man is buried and a new character as a Christian is raised.
The following verses explains this truth.
Colossians 2: 12 - 13
And having been buried with Him in baptism, you were raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead.
13 When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses,
*Resurrection*
The Christian believer is united with Christ to live a new spiritual life.
Romans 6:4-5
"We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the father, we too may live a new life. If we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection." (NIV)
*Cleansing*
Cleansing is the washing through the water of baptism, symbolizing the believer's cleansing from the stain and filth of sin through God's grace.
Here we read 1 Bible verse:
1 Corinthians 6:11
"But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (NIV)
Well said..
I feel like this is a stupid question but…how do I get baptised when I don’t know any other Christians? I was never baptised in the JW organisation, but the only ‘religious’ people I know are JWs. I feel like I’m just…lost!
Send me an email and we'll discuss. meleti.vivlon@gmail.com
I have been thinking whether getting baptized again is necessary.
It is a personal choice.
This is a very interesrting question, however its up to the individual! In 1985 the thrid question put to all JW baptismal candidates had to say "Yes" to the question "Do you accept that JW's are God's spirit filled organisation"? Thus all who answered in the anfirmative where basicaaly being initiated into an organisation! However if ones motive was to genuinely dedicate their lives to God through Christ then it wouldnt be necessary! Who is to tell anybody what to do? Its up to you!
My dear brother in Yeshua, I have watched your video instruction on the question of baptism and I would like to thank you for your scripturally sound expose on what baptism really is and I pray that Yehovah blesses your efforts in the pursuit of the truth.
A couple of points to also consider is that, whilst Yeshua (Jesus) was alive he was a man, although he was God’s son, he was born of man from the womb of Miriam (Mary) and, as such he had the flesh of a human being and therefor, he suffered from similar traits that all humans have in that he had inherited sin in the flesh. The difference between Yeshua and the rest of humankind is that he successfully resisted all sin. It would be logical to surmise this for, if Yeshua had no sin as suggested by Christendom as a whole, Satan would not have been able to tempt him as he did for, he would have known that his efforts would have been futile.
Secondly, it is worthy to bear in mind that a person’s baptism is an act that is expressly between Almighty God and the one being baptized, there is no person or organisation that has the authority to revoke a person’s baptism. As you rightly say, baptism is a condition of the heart, we are baptized in the name of Yeshua ha’Mashiach (Jesus Christ), we have now (spiritually) killed off the old person that we were and, as we come up out of the water we are “born again” from the water, spirit and blood and these three testify before Almighty God that we are His children. 1John 5:7, 8. (It would be good to study what “grafted in” means in terms of the promise).
Shalom to all the brothers and sisters in Yeshua.
Numbers 6:24-26.
I think there is a scripture that says, and I quote under correction, ...and God MADE him sin for us..." And "...he carried our sins on him..." I believe that we should understand it in this context. But he was a perfect person just like Adam was perfect before he sinned. The bible refers to Jesus Christ in Corinthians as the "...last Adam." Or one can also say as some translations put it, "...second Adam." After he sinned, Adam was unable to rescue his offspring from death and couldn't transfer perfection to his children anymore. Jesus came as a perfect man who can restore perfection to those who believe in him. Jesus in this way became the spiritual eternal father for them as he is responsible for their new spiritual birth.
Frank,
This is Vintage, Brother Wilson's assistant.
It's best that you look up the scripture yourself and quote it correctly for the benefit of others.
2 Cor. 5:21 says, "21 God made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God."
@@BeroeanPickets Yes, thank you Vintage. It is best and I will do so next time. Sorry. to the friends.
Hi Frank, thank you for your reply which is duly noted.
I am in total agreement with you concerning context as I believe this is a vital element in our arrival at the truth. Like you I am a fallible human that is continually searching for the truth and that truth will set you free from all false teachings and doctrines. (John 8:32).
As you are probably aware, there have been many debates throughout the centuries concerning the deity of Yeshua, and the constraints of text here on RUclips do not provide space enough to fully explore this topic, my I suggest that you undertake a through personal study into the matter and I feel sure that you will arrive at the same conclusion.
You are quite correct in your statement that Yeshua (Jesus) was a perfect man, as was the first man Adam (Hebrew: man). We know this because Yeshua can rightly be called the second Adam. Yeshua was not Almighty God as the teaching of Christendom tells us, he couldn’t be for many reasons however, Yeshua was the image of Almighty God in that he reflected Fathers qualities 100% so, as a figure of speech Yeshua could be recognised as the word made flesh as he spoke only what the Father told him to say. (John 1:14; 14:10).
In 2 Corinthians Paul is discussing the reconciliation between Yehovah and mankind and his words are true when he told the Corinthian congregation that “… He (Yehovah) hath made him (Yeshua) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. “
The key words here are “who knew no sin” which is an accurate statement as, unlike Adam, Yeshua did not commit any sin whatsoever however, it does not imply that he was not subject to the temptations that we all suffer from, if he did not have the same feelings as us then, in effect his mission and death would have been pointless for it would have been a foregone conclusion that he would have succeeded no matter what happened.
We can be sure that even Yeshua had the potential to sin as is true with all mankind, the difference between Yeshua and us is that he succeeded and, by doing so he paid the ransom price demanded for our redemption.
We can also be sure that Yeshua, whilst on earth, was a man, just like the rest of us. The proof if this can be found at 1 Timothy 2:5. Sin is defined as transgressing the commandment of Yehovah 1 John 3:4. Anyone breaking God’s law is committing a sin.
When we compare Adam with Yeshua we find:
Adam = Perfect man that fell form perfection by disobeying Almighty God’s commandments.
Yeshua = Perfect man that never broke the commandments of Almighty God and therefore he remained sinless.
I pray that this might help you in your search for truth.
Shalom Aleichem.
Numbers 6:24-26.
Thank you. I have also heard that we may partake in the flesh and blood of Christ all year if we choose to. Does that operate the same way? Say, “I am partaking upon the bread and wine in honor of Jesus’s sacrifice?” And that’s it? Is it sufficient?
We do it every month online if you would like to join us.
beroeans.net/events/
@@BeroeanPickets I would and thank you!
For today there was born to you in David’s city+ a savior,+ who is Christ the Lord.+ Lk2.11 Jesus from birth was already the Messiah or Christ. Not at the point of being baptized. Jesus was the Christ of Jehovah.+ when alteady as an infant. Cf. Lk2.26. Nevertheless baptism is unmistakably the starting point for all Christians making Jesus Lord. The longest period to get baptized in the NT was 3 days hold by the Apostle Paul, Acts 9.9,18. Baptism occurred at once in the early NT Church, without delayment.
I have no trust in religious leaders or institutions. My question is, can I baptise myself?
Not recommended. :) (That's my answer,... not speaking for anyone else.) Surely those who ask this question..and you are far from the first... know at least one other human being who is willing and able to enter into a body of water with the baptizmal candidate and baptize that person. That was the model the Bible gave us. One human baptizes another human.
@vintage- well said! Yes we follow the Bible standard.
Jehovah loves you all
I am an atheist, but I am glad that you are still going strong, after running afoul of a corrupt church leadership. Stay safe!
Birger Johansson, I mean you no disrespect, but what are you doing here amongst believers? I find it curious that you are so forthright in identifying yourself as an atheist and yet you wish us well. My entire family and extended family is atheist, and none of them would ever bother to come to a channel like this. What is the curiosity or appeal for you? Wishing you well.
I became curious of the podcast , because of the background of a former member of Jehowah's witnesses losing his membership after standing up for principle. We too seldom see displays of principle
(Addendum) ...so Eric Wilson is interesting, even if the theology per se is of less interest to me. The last few years shows how important it is to stand up against injustice, so E W caught my attention. Be well!
@@birgerjohansson8010 Thank you so much for sharing! I agree. Eric Wilson is interesting and strong to take a stand. That is what the children of God do--stand up for freedom from men, in Christ. Wishing you well!
@Neal Fernan In Sweden of the 1960s and 1970s, the era of the Swedish State Church was coming to a close...you might compare it with the late Romans who had stopped believing in the official religion with the ancient gods.
I will not go deep into politics, but a well-funded and well-run welfare state of the Scandinavian model is the secular embodiment of the Golden Rule.
- See Maslow's pyramid of needs: When the basic needs are cared for, traditions no longer are so important for a sense of security, and people strike out embracing other ideas, ideals and goals.
The religious and non-religious here share the same values. You might say we are "cultural Christians" but without the carrot of a heavenly reward. BTW the religious are not suffering any repression, it is more a sense that religion (or the lack of it) is a private issue. (I am still a member of the church and pay a nominal fee because I like the social programs the church is running)
Where can I get baptized?
Email me at meleti.vivlon@gmail.com
It is so in the jw that i know a person who wants to be baptized not correct given the answers according a booklet and they refused to baptized her, at that time it was so complicated to learn al the rules that se strucle with that. After all i am so glad i am out of them but it has take some time.. i can only say that i was brainwashed with so many years struckle with them.. when i have had a question then they say were are your fait...
Rob,
This is Vintage, Brother Wilson's assistant.
Yes, it takes some time to think things through and get mistaken beliefs replaced with new, correct ones. Once we get out, we begin to wonder why ALL JW's can't see how bad Watchtower is.
@@BeroeanPickets thx for your compassion
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@@lalo2641 All the hearts I think is because of pure appreciation!
Can my 7 year old son partake in the Lords evening meal?
Is he baptised?
Then what that means is as a "baptized" person who was improperly baptized...I wasted my life in that organization. My baptism is rendered invalid.
I am not baptised but I am very close to the lord . Baptism is within
Romans 2:29 says "circumcision is a matter of the heart...". But, as far as I know, there's no scripture that says "baptism is within". So, I don't agree with you on that.
I have seem the phrase pimo around lately, what does it mean?
It is a term used by Jehovah's Witnesses who are Physically In the organization but Mentally Out of it.
Hey Eric! What happend with the translations in your videos? Since first video of expalning Matthew 24 there are no more translated videos. There is only option automatically generated subtitles but it doesn't work good and many times I don't understant the sesne of what you are saying
RUclips removed the ability for contributors to make translations. So now it takes time to do it and also it takes a lot of effort to make translations and brothers and sisters are limited with time.
Klaudia,
This is Vintage, Brother Wilson's assistant.
Are you a translator? Are you bilingual? What is your first language? Is it possible that you and I could work on a video translation together?
@@BeroeanPickets I am 17 and I am not a translator. I still learn English but I can help. My first language is Polish.
Hi Klaudia. Please send an email to Brother Wilson, telling him that you are not a translator, but that you can help. His email is meleti.vivlon@gmail.com And, you can ask him to foward your email address to Vintage. I thought that you might be German, and I speak a little German. But I don't speak Polish, so that will be more difficult. Plus, English speakers consider Polish very difficult. I used to speak a little Croation, which has some similarity to Polish.
@@klaudia7503 thank you Klaudia. Please send me an email so that I can forward your email to the Polish translators. My email address is meleti.vivlon@gmail.com
Would an Unbaptized Believer Sin 🤷 . . By asking Someone who is a Member of a Religious Establishment . . to Perform the Baptismal ?
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(Even if it is NOT . . performed At or On Church Property ?? 😶
I wouldn't think so
Ok. I will admit I guess you could say one could be baptized in a Jacuzzi or a bath tub because as you say it is “between yourself and God”. Acts (8:26-40) When the Ethiopian eunuch received baptism, we don’t know what formula was used, the only one there to witness the baptism was the guy driving the chariot. So I guess you are right baptism could be just between you and God. I am hoping that when I get baptized a lot of people will witness my baptism and dedication to Jesus. fine!
Here is the rub it is Matt 28:16-20, The Great Commissioning. Says “baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and of the holy Spirit.” V19. You say that earlier texts don’t have this formula but it was added in in later years by a copies or scribe.
Here is my question can you give me a source or a quote from a biblical scholar or show me the earlier text that does not have the Matthew 28:19 formula. I have read trinitarian and non-trinitarian (oneness pentecostals) and I have found no where that anyone has said the Matthew formula as added later. It seems strange that non-trinitarians would be quick to point that out if it was true. Just show me a source that proves the Matthew formula was added in later years (please, a source outside of JW. literature) I have been studying the truth for six or seven years and it came to my attention from another brother who found a JW source that was taken out of context and just recently I too found a mistake by Watchtower not quoiting the full source. So please just a source outside of JW. literature because I can’t find it. Thank you
2001translation.org/notes/matthew28-19
Thank you!! I will check it out!!
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This was for me a little spurious because most know that Eusebius was a non-trinitarian and always was before and after the Council of Nicea. Matt 28:19 says, “Go, therefore and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit”. Does anyone think non-trinitarian Eusebius who remained a non-trinitarian after the Council would add this to the Matthew text after the Council of Nicea? I don’t think so.
“Will we ever know if the words are genuine or not?”
Perhaps. Biblical scholars may be lucky and gain access to previously undocumented manuscripts. Indeed, new technologies are already helping scholars to read previously illegible manuscripts. Such discoveries may one day help resolve the issue.
There is the issue, we really don’t know but after reading all the conspiracy theory I will say one thing I like The 2001 Translation Septuagint.
Finally read this from Biblical Unitarian
It makes more sense
www.biblicalunitarian.com/articles/is-matthew-2819-a-forgery
The reason the question is so important is because I want to know what formula I should be baptised with. Which would be more acceptable to Jehovah and Jesus. I just want to make sure in my own mind that I chose the right one.
But thank you for your help. It has helped me.
Was Paul baptised.?
i got baptised as a jw years ago, is my jw baptism invalid? should i get baptized again? im sorry i find things hard to grasp and understand.
Hi Rosie, some feel that being baptized into the name of an organization invalidates their baptism. If you want to get baptized in the name of Jesus, then you can be sure your baptism is valid. But it is up to you.
When we get df'd we are mo longer one of Jehovah's witnesses. Yet!! When I got reinstated I asked if I needed to get rebaptized and the elders said no.
Excellent point!