Bro. your channel is a godsend. I was shopping for a Nissan Leaf. Your channel provided a lot of useful info. I bought an used 2103 Leaf last Sat. We have been enjoying it so far. It has low range but gets the job done for sending kids to school and pickup (10 round trips), and going to church (about 5 round trips/week). I am so happy I don't have to spend $80+/week to fill up just one car (we have more than one gasoline cars). I don't miss going to gas stations!. Thank you and keep up the good work! God bless you!
good video. FYI your -0.57A draw is normal. ALL cars have a a minimum draw, even when they go to "sleep" after one parks at the end of the day. That keeps required modules running the barebone basics they need. i.e alarm, proximity alert/unlocking, etc. I have seen that draw as high as 0.100, anything over 0.200 should be a matter of concern as it means there is a short somewhere, or something not required for "sleep" is remaining on. Once I spent a full weekend diagnosing a 0.700 draw. It turned out to be the darn trunk light, the switch at the trunk was not interrupting the circuit, and obviously we couldn't see it. :)
At 9:06, I think that setting is referring to CAN as in "Controller Area Network", not Canada. The odometer reports a number via the CAN system in the car, which LeafSpy reads. I guess this setting, "CAN Odometer in Miles", is to tell LeafSpy to interpret the number it gets from the CAN as being in miles rather than being in kilometers. So when the setting was off, it assumed the 30,977 it saw on the odometer meant 30,977 kilometers, and "helpfully" converted it to 19,248.2 miles for you. But when you turned on the setting, it correctly interpreted the CAN Odometer number directly as representing miles, so it didn't do any further math on the number 30,977 before displaying it. (Sorry if you were joking about the "Canadian miles", but thought I'd mention this just in case, haha.) At 9:57, it's talking about "Gids", not "grids". A "GID" is a nonsense word that represents a unit of "practical" charge (different from the literal electric charge in the battery). It's supposed to better represent how the battery depletes as you drive, compared to physical kWh. One GID is said to be approximately equivalent to 80 Wh or 0.08 kWh. (On this screen it seems like LeafSpy is estimating it as 77.5 Wh for one GID, hence the setting there. I guess you can change it to make it estimate GIDs differently.) GIDs are named after Gary Giddings who created a tool for measuring them, apparently. 13:30 I guess your trim level (S Plus) has the resistive heater. Some other trim levels / packages include a heat pump that would use much less power to heat the cabin. Just for reference for people watching this video.
Thanks for the explanation. Of course that was my very 1st time seeing this information and I had no idea of what I was looking at. There's also a good help menu in LeafSpy that I discovered later that gives good explanation for all the screens.
Heat pumps were added in 2013. Only the SV and SL trims had them standard. If the Leaf was equipped with a cold weather package than it has a heat pump. Easiest way to know is ask the dealer if it has the cold weather package especially for the base trim (S).
Great video niko,I'm in to buy a my 21 with 28000km on it. Its the 59kw version. Gone test it when my wife is driving 😮its her car ... I have already the thinkdiag obd2 reader,will that work as well ? Greetings jan Finland
Not sure if that brand will work. The one listed in my description has worked flawlessly on every Leaf I've owned. Let me know if it works, would be good to know.
I have a Leaf 2020 new with a 62 kWh battery. We do very little mileage. Seeing all the razzmatazz regarding the Leafspy I bought the dongle and discover my SOH was 91.8%. I then joined My Nissan Leaf forum to asks if this was normal. There were no definitive answers. Except you actually can't rely on this reading as being accurate even with the Leafspy. Everyone with Leafspy seems to be constantly worrying about their batteries. It seems an obsession. So I decided to chuck it in a draw and enjoy the car.
I also bought a new 2020 S Plus. I'm sitting at 93% SOH with 39k miles. Like you I'm not too concerned because I have plenty of range. I liked it because I could switch the door locks to the gear selector. I like having it unlock when I switch to park. I'm going to play around with the tire pressure monitor today in my daughter's car. Just reached a tire for pothole damage and her low pressure warning is on. I just like the ability to do these things at home.
I would agree with that as a standard but it's not always the case. We bought our 2017 30 kW on June 6th and it had 71.28%. It currently has 69.80% about 10 weeks later. I've also seen where many say the first 5% drops off really fast, within first year or sooner. Of course climate and how you drive makes a big difference.
@@NoGasNiko that isn't standard degradation, that is what % you'll lose eve n if you look after the battery. My '14 plate 24kwh has 17.64% degradation with over 3.5k l1/l2 charges and 30 rapids. To be down to 71% in 5 years shows a lot of rapid charge use especially when pack is hot. Testament to the lack of battery pack thought nissan have given the leaf.
Not the case for ours. Per LeafSpy we currently have 9 QCs and 3371 L1/L2. I think this is just a bad pack that will hit warranty replacement soon. I agree it's not typical and I would not believe it myself had I not seen the data first hand.
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Bro. your channel is a godsend. I was shopping for a Nissan Leaf. Your channel provided a lot of useful info. I bought an used 2103 Leaf last Sat. We have been enjoying it so far. It has low range but gets the job done for sending kids to school and pickup (10 round trips), and going to church (about 5 round trips/week). I am so happy I don't have to spend $80+/week to fill up just one car (we have more than one gasoline cars). I don't miss going to gas stations!. Thank you and keep up the good work! God bless you!
Thank you so much. I'm glad I was able to help. My first EV was also a 2013 Leaf bought used.
good video. FYI your -0.57A draw is normal. ALL cars have a a minimum draw, even when they go to "sleep" after one parks at the end of the day. That keeps required modules running the barebone basics they need. i.e alarm, proximity alert/unlocking, etc. I have seen that draw as high as 0.100, anything over 0.200 should be a matter of concern as it means there is a short somewhere, or something not required for "sleep" is remaining on. Once I spent a full weekend diagnosing a 0.700 draw. It turned out to be the darn trunk light, the switch at the trunk was not interrupting the circuit, and obviously we couldn't see it. :)
Thank you. That's one nice thing about a hatchback, no worries about not seeing the truck light. Good catch!
@@NoGasNiko :) -- I meant to say "Trunk" light. :) I just modified my post.
I don't remember what you had originally, but I understood it as trunk light.
@@NoGasNiko I had "Truck". :)
At 9:06, I think that setting is referring to CAN as in "Controller Area Network", not Canada. The odometer reports a number via the CAN system in the car, which LeafSpy reads. I guess this setting, "CAN Odometer in Miles", is to tell LeafSpy to interpret the number it gets from the CAN as being in miles rather than being in kilometers. So when the setting was off, it assumed the 30,977 it saw on the odometer meant 30,977 kilometers, and "helpfully" converted it to 19,248.2 miles for you. But when you turned on the setting, it correctly interpreted the CAN Odometer number directly as representing miles, so it didn't do any further math on the number 30,977 before displaying it. (Sorry if you were joking about the "Canadian miles", but thought I'd mention this just in case, haha.)
At 9:57, it's talking about "Gids", not "grids". A "GID" is a nonsense word that represents a unit of "practical" charge (different from the literal electric charge in the battery). It's supposed to better represent how the battery depletes as you drive, compared to physical kWh. One GID is said to be approximately equivalent to 80 Wh or 0.08 kWh. (On this screen it seems like LeafSpy is estimating it as 77.5 Wh for one GID, hence the setting there. I guess you can change it to make it estimate GIDs differently.) GIDs are named after Gary Giddings who created a tool for measuring them, apparently.
13:30 I guess your trim level (S Plus) has the resistive heater. Some other trim levels / packages include a heat pump that would use much less power to heat the cabin. Just for reference for people watching this video.
Thanks for the explanation. Of course that was my very 1st time seeing this information and I had no idea of what I was looking at. There's also a good help menu in LeafSpy that I discovered later that gives good explanation for all the screens.
How can tell if you have a heat pump or a resistive heater?
Heat pumps were added in 2013. Only the SV and SL trims had them standard. If the Leaf was equipped with a cold weather package than it has a heat pump. Easiest way to know is ask the dealer if it has the cold weather package especially for the base trim (S).
@@NoGasNiko Thanks, we don't have those trim levels over hear, but I have a 2020 top trim so would assume that it has a heat pump as standard then.
Make sure that you have GPS / location switched ON before starting up Leaf Spy Pro. Didn't work for me until I did this..
Thanks for that info.
Great video niko,I'm in to buy a my 21 with 28000km on it.
Its the 59kw version.
Gone test it when my wife is
driving 😮its her car ...
I have already the thinkdiag obd2 reader,will that work as well ?
Greetings jan Finland
Not sure if that brand will work. The one listed in my description has worked flawlessly on every Leaf I've owned. Let me know if it works, would be good to know.
I have a Leaf 2020 new with a 62 kWh battery. We do very little mileage. Seeing all the razzmatazz regarding the Leafspy I bought the dongle and discover my SOH was 91.8%. I then joined My Nissan Leaf forum to asks if this was normal. There were no definitive answers. Except you actually can't rely on this reading as being accurate even with the Leafspy. Everyone with Leafspy seems to be constantly worrying about their batteries. It seems an obsession. So I decided to chuck it in a draw and enjoy the car.
I also bought a new 2020 S Plus. I'm sitting at 93% SOH with 39k miles. Like you I'm not too concerned because I have plenty of range. I liked it because I could switch the door locks to the gear selector. I like having it unlock when I switch to park. I'm going to play around with the tire pressure monitor today in my daughter's car. Just reached a tire for pothole damage and her low pressure warning is on. I just like the ability to do these things at home.
2%-3% per year is considered average wear on the leaf from posts found on reddit when i bought my '14 leaf.
I would agree with that as a standard but it's not always the case. We bought our 2017 30 kW on June 6th and it had 71.28%. It currently has 69.80% about 10 weeks later. I've also seen where many say the first 5% drops off really fast, within first year or sooner. Of course climate and how you drive makes a big difference.
@@NoGasNiko that isn't standard degradation, that is what % you'll lose eve n if you look after the battery. My '14 plate 24kwh has 17.64% degradation with over 3.5k l1/l2 charges and 30 rapids. To be down to 71% in 5 years shows a lot of rapid charge use especially when pack is hot. Testament to the lack of battery pack thought nissan have given the leaf.
Not the case for ours. Per LeafSpy we currently have 9 QCs and 3371 L1/L2. I think this is just a bad pack that will hit warranty replacement soon. I agree it's not typical and I would not believe it myself had I not seen the data first hand.
where can i buy this device?
I bought mine on Amazon.
@@NoGasNiko thank you, link please?
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