In one sentence he say’s “this is a terrible car” then follows that up with “it’s a great car” 3 minutes later. WTF… Clueless legend in his own mind. Oil leaks at the timing chain cover are quite common among several brands including Toyota who’s at or near the top in overall build quality. The Macan is an incredible car for what it is. It’s 3:28 become the #1 selling Porsche by a wide margin for a good reason.
This is 100% accurate and thanks for the video. These oil leaks are very common on the Macan. Just read the forums. I had the issue on my 2016 Macan S and I'm still not convinced the issue was completely resolved by my local dealer. When the issue was diagnosed, I asked the SA how common it is and his response was "far more than it should be." I was also told that the factory has made no adjustments to the torque specs or bolts in later model Macans. My sense, too, is that there's no factory specified fix for the issue (as no recall or bulletin has been issued for the problem). In other words, the techs are left to their own devices to determine how to repair the issue which will lead to further problems and potential fails. Luckily, I'm still under warranty. If you're not, expect at least a $5K bill for this repair. Absolutely inexcusable for Porsche to not address this issue for an ever increasing number of Macan owners.
@@carlossantini Where you driving your MACAN S in Sport mode all the time? All Twin Cluch transmissions over heat /wear out if they shift gears constanly (Normal mode to safe gas/confort).
Thank you for the honesty! I was considering a Macan to replace my Cayenne Turbo and will probably pass on it now. I hope you have thick skin! Because the internet doesn't like honesty when it comes to Porsche reliability! :)
I think you are spot on with the same issue on the VW Tiguan. Lady friend of ours bought a one year old Tiguan around 6 yrs ago and it had engine oil leak. Not sure specifically from where. Luckily the vehicle was still under Warranty but she got stuffed around being a lady. She had to take her car to the dealer several time before it was fixed after she said she will complain to consumer protection authority. Watching from Australia.
I got one since 4 years and am extremely happy. I had BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Range Rover before and wasn’t as happy before. No issues at all. Reading the other comments below I don’t think we are lucky with having no problems but prob u got bad luck getting some broken cars.
@@jaggyjut I didnt own one of these but my wife still wants to get that model:) I have friends who have one since years and are pretty happy with it. Btw. as my feedback is already over a year old - the Macan still didnt cause any kind of problem:)
Guys I would advice taking the cover off and checking the sides. The leak will eventually happen because of the aluminum bolts. I've had 2 Macans and they have had this problem. Both around their 20-30k mile range.
The main BMW N20 engine issue is failure of the plastic timing chain guide. Those are known to randomly fragment into pieces. The fragmentation typically causes one of two issues. One, the fragments get lodged in the chain and cause it to skip a tooth. The other is the fragments land in the oil system and block oil flow throughout the engine. Either situation is potentially fatal to the N20 engine. These N20 failures were so common that BMW lost a class action lawsuit over them.
I've had a 15' Mecan S since May 14' and have had no issues (80k miles do far). I've upgraded to Cobb stage 1 (flat6), intakes, and Diverter valves. Brraaapppp!!!
@@arekkot1013 the published dyno on the Falt6 stage 1 is ~425hp with a bunch of early torque. night and day! together with intakes and the diverter valve, upgrade-it's a no-brainer.
@@ikaikaboo what parts of your warranty was voided with putting mods on specifically the cobb tune, because i want to do it but don’t want my warranty in the trash
I have a 2018 Macan. No oil leaks. Consumers Reports and all other sources say among the most reliable SUVs on the road. Both my Porsche dealer and independent specialist say Macan is very reliable.
@@vanceshaw3675 if yours has been fixed you won't have any issues. If you want to check this, pull the bottom engine cover off and inspect. Most are not aware that they even have engine oil leaks unless it is properly inspected with cover removed. Some of our new customers were made aware of the oil leaks only after there warranty ran out.
He's telling the truth people. I just returned a 2018 Macan S because of this issue. Dealership wanted $13,000 to take engine out and reseal. Porsche should be ashamed of themselves. A class action lawsuit needs to happen or they need to do a recall.
Had a Macan GTS that was diagnosed with a cracked bolt on the timing chain cover causing loss of oil. They had to drop the engine out of the vehicle in order to perform the service. Luckily it was still under warranty. The vehicle was never the same. I traded it on a 2019 base Macan. I'll be watching out for this problem on my new Macan . Definitely unloading it before the warranty expires if any hint of an oil leak problem develops.
@@cpg8000 Still have the base Macan. Only issue so far is a periodic loss of power when accelerating. Seems the transmission selects a higher gear at times and creates a occasional lag when getting up to speed. No oil leaks noted so far...but it only has 18,000 miles on it. Thanks for asking. FK
@@fhkazm thank you for the detailed reply. Yes, the PDK seems programmed to upshift in the normal mode. Sport I find solves the problem. Glad to hear it’s working out overall. I have a ‘17 S and have encountered the TCC oil leak among other problems as well. A newer base is on my mind.
If oil leaks are your biggest issue you are doing pretty good. You should see the BMWs they are are damn oil sinks. This car may have issues yes, but sounds like the issue you presented was workmanship.
I’m in my third month of ownership of a CPO 2017 Macan S, bought with only 17k miles. I love the ride, drive and features of this car. However I’ve just noticed oil leak from passenger side front of engine. I haven’t been able to get car up and bottom cover off, but just what I’m able to see it’s most likely the timing cover. Disappointing as I’ve put only about 1500 miles on it, and think this should’ve been caught during the dealership’s CPO workup. Good news for me is that car is still under original warranty. This car replaced a 2009 997.2 Carrera that was bulletproof for the 2 1/2 years and 10k miles I owned it.
the Porsche badge leaches off the fame and reliability of the 911s so the residual value is good, even if the car you're buying is a mostly re-badged Audi/VW product.
If you have your car serviced at the dealer, they will not tell you that you have a leak as they have been instructed not to until you’re out of warranty. This helps them, avoid a mass recall. The oil leak is rather slow so they can get away with not saying anything. Plus, until you take the bottom cover off, you won’t see any oil leaking on the ground as the felt on the cover absorbs the oil.
@@cpg8000 that in itself is so disappointing. That's the kind of behavior I would expect from junky third rate dealer networks for economy cars like Chrysler, Ford, Nissan GM from back in the day, not Porsche. What a damn shame.
@@AoDAzrael it really is a shame, and such a let-down of what is supposed to be a premium brand and product. I have since sold the car, as I just couldn’t handle the liability of it breaking. Broke my heart, as I special ordered it to my liking and loved the way it drove.
Well this is definitely unfortunate as they drive really well. I thought BMW using soft magnesium bolts on the water pump (I changed one on an X5 we had) was bad but this is a lot worse because loss of oil can be fatal for an engine. As for modern DFI motors I change the oil every 5000 miles because of the potential for oil dilution. Thanks for the video.
Valve cover leak isn’t the end of the world. Macan was made to be sporty, not only to cater towards the lower market. These are expensive new. Replacing the HPFP at 40k miles is an absolutely ridiculous recommendation. Finally, early BMW N20 had timing chain GUIDE issues due to poor guides and 10-12k oil intervals. Not fuel pump. This guy seriously concerns me with his lack of info.
Why would you use a dissimilar metal on an aluminum vehicle? That’s a recipe for heavy corrosion which would lead to far more issues than a small oil leak.
Yep engine failures on the 3.0 Turbo in the Macan S…. Story of my life. Comes in knock knock who’s there. Shavings in oil filter and a very expensive repair
Damn! I love the Macan but if they cheaped out then nevermind. I had a 997.2 and my wife had a boxster..we also had a Cayenne Diesel..all of which were bulletproof. No problems out of any of them. Porsche is a premium brand..I hope they arent sacrificing quality to get prices down. I'd rather pay more and have reliability over cheaper price and it's always in the shop.
@@TopAutomotiveInc you're right...everyone makes throw away cars now..doesn't care about customer satisfaction or loyalty. I call it the "China Affect"...just make cheap disposable sh1t
Right, understood. My point is half of the folks that commented on your video appeared to be perspective buyers. So in my comment was just sharing my decision process, which includes service records. This is the challenge of combining two topics in your video: 1. Talking about the oil leaks and design defect and 2. The natural conclusion of whether to buy a Macan or not. Your factual points are valid. Let’s also keep it real; these are not cheap vehicles. Unless you’re talking a preowned or really stripped down new vehicle, these are 70k + when optioned. It just happens to be the lowest cost SUV that Porsche offers. For me it was not that it was the cheapest, but the right fit of size performance and style...when compared to any other SUV of this class.
Great video, I wanted to know what exactly you were talking about at the end of the video regarding what you also need to replace “coils”? The transcript doesn’t have type it (@6:42). I own a 2017 turbo @ 61k miles… Thanks for your valuable information
Thanks, man. I have a 18 GTS and am trying to decide whether to keep it or not. Dealer just fixed the oil leak by only replacing two top bolts. May I know how many broken bolts you normally had in your shop? Do you have any customer encountering oil leak for the second time? Thanks again.
Did the Research, then stayed away from 3L and All their problems. then purchased a CPO 2018/Macan 2L (in service less than 5mo/2,263miles) for over $10,662.5 off list/ including tax tax. PLUS they gave us a 5yr 100k factory warranty too. So got a bit over a 1yr depreciation factor Plus the 5yr or 100k bumper/bumper Porsche Factory warranty. How do you past that up???
Okay so yeah, 35,000 miles I had a timing cover leak, Porsche told me that's normal for these cars! Thankfully its covered under warranty, what do you recommend as I live on the west coast. Change out all the bolts? Recently there was a fuel pump recall. I get what your saying but the Cayenne is an ugly car, apart from the new 2020 coupe model, which they had to fix and emulate the Macan body more as more people were buying the Macan than the ugly looking old man Cayenne. The Macan looks like a beast and sounds like a beast and you can do more modifications than the Cayenne. Anyway I would love to know where I can go to get all the aluminum bolts replaced to avoid leaks?
The Macan is Porsche’s biggest selling model. This is very bad news. I was seriously considering a Macan S. I really don’t want to go the way of Tesla, but this kind of poor mechanical design is unforgivable.
Keep in mind that this ONE particular Macan had an engine swap, performed by a moron who didn’t put it back together correctly. This "mechanic" contradicts himself constantly and can’t give a definitive answer about anything. There are no known issues like this for these vehicles apart from this specific instance. If the mechanic is lazy or cognitively inept in any way....... They’re going to ruin anything NO MATTER THE BRAND OR MODEL. Use your head and do some research of your own. You might surprise yourself.
numbereightyseven Responding to a mechanic’s negative review of the Macan makes me gullible? You’re quite judgmental. YT is a source of great info - not all accurate and not all wrong. If you have educated info on the Macan, please feel free to share.
The Porsche fix was to release stronger aluminum bolts (not steel) for the timing chain cover. Earlier you had to drop the engine and replace the timing chain cover and gasket, plus install new (defective-weak) bolts. The bolts actually crack, which is strange. That means that during assembly at the factory, the bolts are over-torqued and crack or the bolts were defective. Then over time the driver will experience oil leaks at low mileage. Seems to happen on both the earlier 3.6L V-6 Porsche engine and even the new Audi 3.0L/2.9L V-6 engines. Every time you visit the Porsche dealership have them check these bolts for cracks and look for oil leaves. If they haven't already, have the dealership replace these bolts with the stronger bolts. It might be that other engine covers have loose or cracked bolts (valve covers, etc.).
Wow that is very informative, thanks su much for the info. I just bought my Macan S 2015 2 weeks ago and this is the only thing that worries me. It is still under CPO. I see you also have a Mustang GT500
Can't believe a modern high tech car still use copper spark plugs, that's why the service schedule asks for them to be changed at every 30k miles, I put in Japanese iridum plugs, much better throttle response, iridum can last at least 100k miles..
Fuel pump change at 50000 or 100000miles? And which bolts do I tell them to change? All aluminium bolts on the engine? And what was the other recommendation at 60000 miles? Coil?? Couldnt quite catch it. Thanks
I have had to replace the transfer case twice in first 27K miles on my 2015 Macan S. First time Porsche reimbursed me $3,000 for the repair when they extended the warranty on this part to 7 years due to so many problems with their transfer cases. 2nd transfer case I will need to pay for because I am 6 weeks past the 7 year warranty. Seems many owners are starting to replace for 2nd time. Porsche should be recalling the Macans for this issue. Very disappointed with Porsche not taking ownership of their faulty transfer cases.
@@TopAutomotiveInc any thoughts on the Macan S modules.? My Macan has now been at dealer for 6 weeks - first they replaced transfer case (my 2nd replacement) and still error codes show and car cannot be put in AWD. It is stuck in rear drive only and no sport mode allowed. After their tech, Porsche field rep, and field rep mgr they determined I have 7 modules coded incorrectly (how does ths even happen?). They are hoping replacing 3 will allow them to code the other 4. Cost for 3 replacements is $4,900. My bill is already $8K+ on my 2015 with 27,000 miles and climbing. I hate to see the cost if all 7 modules need replacing.
@@Michael-ub9jb We have never heard of 7 modules being coded wrong. 1 module coded wrong is rare. Most can be recorded by changing option data. Find an independent p-car shop and get a 2nd diagnostics.
@@TopAutomotiveInc Thank you for the quick reply. I am my wit's end. They have had the car for 6 weeks!!! They tell me they can recode the modules and get the system running but once car is shut off and restarted the coding is lost and problems returm. I feel at this point they have me by the you know whats. I would hope the dealer and Porsche field reps would not lie to their customers. But nowadays who knows.
Porsche just mailed me an extended warranty for the Transfer Case! 2014-2018 MACANS. Please Pin this comment so people see it. They’re fixing it for FREE!!
I'm relatively new to the porsche market but I wonder how they could make a mistake this large if they are touted as some of the greatest engineers. Isn't this just a matter of knowing metal properties. Also is it worth buying one of these cars after the repairs have been made? I guess my real question is how damaging is it to run a car with oil leaks if you constantly top off the oil?
I test drove a Macan the other day, 5 years old with 22k miles on the clock. I looked for a oil leak underneath but couldn't see any as I'm aware of this problem. Drove the car around town and it was very good then I opened it up on a country road that was twisty and bumpy, my God it was all over the place, I don't think I'll buy one after that, put me right off.
Many people are asking about the more recent Macan (Post 2018) - This issue is no longer there. If you own a Porsche, make sure to renew the warranty... Don't buy a car you can't afford. Porsche are expensive, and maintenance is expensive.
I just bought a 2020 Macon S, didn't do a ton of research on this model but hoping it's as much or more enjoyable then my MB GLC300 was. any tips or suggestions is appreciated...
Great video! Our 2017 Macan S going into the shop at 46k to fix the timing cover oil leak. What a shame that Porsche has this issue. Lucky I purchased the extended drive train warranty as the standard factory expired. Now, I'll need to keep an eye on the high pressure fuel pump internal leak. Question... what is being said at the 6:42 mark in this video? What is it that is recommended for replacement?
Thanks so much for this video. I’m buying a 2017 Macan GTS. WHICH EXACT BOLTS should be upgraded to minimize oil leaks? And it has 60K miles, should I change the HPFP?
Anyone know if it is 'one and done' when these leaks are repaired? If you bought one with the bolts repair done, do you have to worry about it coming back? Thanks!
2017 Macan S with 15k miles, timing cover leak... luckily the car is still under warranty. These also have the transfer case issues too and I’m not looking forward to experiencing that. I think the wife and I will trade this in for a Lexus RX350.
Youre on point and agree with literally everything except the part you spoke about how it drives. I have to very strongly disagree specially compared to Cayenne. Which the suspension feels bouncy and more SUV like. I have a GTS and it drives more like a Panamera. Also test drove a lot of cars and this one was the best feeling one.
Looking at a used 2016 Macan S first porche , wow now I am worried and was so excited, I really like the body style of the Macan and the price of course and it will be my first luxury car ..is there a particular year that you found that won’t have these issues or less of the bolt oil leak issues ?
Thanks for this review - I have been looking at buying a Macan, but had heard about oil leak issues - I was told the problem was fixed with 2018 Macan models? or do you recommend a Cayenne? Thanks!
I own a 2015 Macan S, and I am having problems with LKA. Also, the car struggles to keep itself in the lane; it kind of swerves all over. Can you recommend any fixes?
@@macanclub2365 I want to be fare and say Porsche did a pretty good job on an entry level compact SUV. The problem is they had to cut corners to save money in order to still make profit just like the Boxster vs 911. I had a 2019 Macan for a very short time myself, I was very disappointed compared to my Turbo Cayenne that I still own, but it was expected per the price difference. This was a very bumpy SUV but handled well almost as good as my gen2 Cayenne Turbo with hydrogen suspension variable system. Macan had very low head room in the drivers seat for me and my wife and I am under 6FT forget about rear leg room in the back. I can say that a Macan is not a better built car compared to a Cayenne, it can't because its price tag is 50k+. "Someone ones said to me that a Boxster car was a better built car than a 911, and this was because they owned one" I have owned and worked on many Porsches throughout the years, including many Cayenne's and macan's. (Certified porsche tech. 2011+ Gen 2 cayenne is a much better built car by a mile, way better built quality, better brakes, better suspension, bigger and better brakes, entertainment system, interior with no fake leather seats like the macan, cayenne has a way better built engine including forged pistons on turbo cayennes and piston oil cooling and Asin reliable Japanese transmission ect. This does reflects a higher price tag of course. But that being said, macan is still a better compact SUV in its class.
Where can people buy those steel bolts? Are all the bolts the same size or some of them are longer than others? I think a list of the bolts would be helpful for the DIYs.
Dude I looked online i believe ARP bolts the ones I use on my high HP Honda CRXs make bolts for the MACAN if they do its drop the front or have a Porsche friend mechanic slip them in the fix when they do the Work under warranty and your problem is solved ARP are freaking heat treated Steel and will not F break period.
Excellent & valuable vid:) I was thinking of buying a new base Macan 2020 or 2021. Seems like you are saying the bolts are still a problem till at least 2019 and that they don't listen and it is likely a problem in the 2020 & 21s? Maybe I should look for a used base Cayman in a stick to compliment my 2015 Audi Q5 that has been perfect except for the replacement of the turbo on the 2 litre last week which lucky got covered under warranty despite being pass warranty? What years of the Cayman would you recommend? Thank you.
I agree with this man, they cheap out on the design because of profit. I own the turbo and i like the car so im trying to fix all the little issues before they show their ugly faces.
Can someone please explain to me why aluminum bolts would break and cause oil leaks if you always remove and torque them the way you should and not recklessly? Also, he mentions it drives “cheap”..compared to what, a 911? Because driving even a base Macan to me feels much better than 90% of the cars in its class.
This is the only video I've seen that talks about the oil leak problem and reading the comments it seems its still an uncommon issue. I'm coming from a 2006 BMW M6 looking to switch to a macan lol
I have a 2016 Macan S and it has had many recall/warranty issues. The dealership took care of all of them with no problems at all. The vehicle is a joy to drive. I've never owned a sports car but this vehicle is far sportier than the sports sedans I've owned. I do not regret the purchase and will be trading it in on another S or GTS. Would not get the base model, though. Kind of slow.
The newer Audi fuel pumps never have problems...The older ones, 08 and older had a problem where they chewed up the camshaft, but they never leaked gas into the crankcase
I think people need to understand that if you want to buy a Porsche, you really need to buy a 911, 718, or maybe a Panamera ... the rest are re-badged Audi and VW products .. but really the truest Porsche is the 911.
I own a Macan and an Audi Q7 and its nothing alike!! The Macan is in a different league. The Audi has cheap interior and not well configured. The Macan is a more sporty, dynamic and beastly.
@@andreascalais yeah, Porsche takes the interiors way up in terms of quality, but mechanically a Macan has a lot of parts in common with VW/Audi platforms and even share the same platform... the truly Porsche cars are the 718 and 911.
@@Sams911 Yes they share similar parts etc, but don't perform nothing alike. You can hear my Macans turbo spooling from a mile away, the PDK transmission is in a completely different league, the suspension, handling, exhaust are out of this world. My car sounds like a race car with a good tune and some intake work. The Audi is a good soccer moms car really! Thats why my wife drives it!
@@andreascalais Porsche did in fact tune the suspension and add their own parts (I believe the lower A-arms and sway bars are unique to Porsche, but it's like comparing a Cadillac Esclade with a GMC Denali ... they share a platform... If you want to experience driving a "Porsche" tho.. the car that shares it's origins with the original VW Beetle, and has that legendary boxer engine... DRIVE a 911.. or if you want to keep the budget real... the 718, that's all I'm saying. Anyway, enjoy the Macan ... best SUV in the price range out there for sure.
@@andreascalais Also, do watch for carbon coking on the intake valves, due to the VW designed Direct Injection V6 they're using ... this issue plagues all VW and Audi, as well as BMW and some Mercedes cars that went to GDI to save the environment ... Oddly, even though the boxer engine in the 911 and 718 is also GDI, the intake valves stay clean due to the design of the PCV and intake manifold system.
@@mikemorris7776 that’s pretty good. I’m looking a buying either the 4 cylinder or 6 this month. Budget of 25k and mileage below 75k hopefully that’s not too many Miles for these!
Looking a title and watching video, poor analogy... Many manufacturers use aluminum bolts. They’re lighter and they’re one-time use typically. So for performance vehicles, such as BMW, Porsche etc...etc, this is the norm and a good excuse for manufacturers to sell more expensive parts. Yes aluminum bolts are more expensive than steel. As soon as this guy said Porsche should use metal bolts (Aluminum is a metal alloy) he lost credibility. For those of you that said they are not interested in the Macan after watching this video; you need to do more research and get off RUclips... Yes, I’m a former mechanic, yes I own Porsche products, 2020 Macan and 2017 Carrera. My two cents...and still worth my time to know that some Macan have oil leak issues...
The title is pretty accurate, we work on 70% of Porsche's and see the same parts failing. There is way too many cheap parts, plastic hose fitings can leak, and we should not be replacing them on vehicles that are only 3 years old on 50,000 miles. This is one of the first Porsche designed engines to borrow the junk VW/Audi HPFP that leak fuel into the crankcase when they fail, there is just no exuse for this. I have replaced way too many timing chains due to engine oil fuel dilution going back to VW/ Audis. Fuel mixing = major engine wear to all lubricating components. Aluminum bolts that are used as a fastener are a poor excuse for weight savings, manufactures use this excuse. This nothing but cost savings due to (bean counters). Most metal bolts are coated with zink and alum flake, stainless bolts are also safe to use with aluminum. Manfucatures like Porsche and others have used steel bolts for cylinder heads, case halves, valve covers, timing covers, Brake calipers and many more engine parts and they have had zero issues. Why don't they have they not switched to all aluminum and why stop here? Simple answer, because engines would fail and explode! When Porsche did use aluminum fasteners for the vario cams on Panamera and Cayennes, the vario cams were exploding engine would fail. Most early engines were failing left and right and needed to be re-called and replaced. What did Porsche replacement bolts alum bolts with now? Yep, Steel bolts! Bmw did the same exact thing on the Vanos bolts and had the exact same results and what are they using now? Yep, steel bolts. This is why there is an open ATI on all Macan's for this BS. There are zero benefits to save .000001 oz. However, this is good job security for Porsche and repair shops, so I don't mind, let them make junk, we will fix it. Cheers!
I’m with you completely on an informed consumer base, and I understand posters want to use provocative titles for their videos... I’ve owned several German cars over the years. Prior to buying the Macan S, only brands I had not owned were Audi and Porsche (bought Carrera S after Macan). All manufacturers dip in the parts bin of sister brands. Just look at ultra high-end British brands using German engines. In the case of the Macan, research showed 20% Audi content. This topic is very situational. If those parts are proven over time in another model, then that’s a good thing... I also own two Toyotas 2009 Land Cruiser and 1974 Land Cruiser (FJ40). You’d be hard pressed to find more reliable vehicles. So I’ve accepted that when you pursue “performance” vehicles there are trade-offs. Had a 2008 BMW 535i Sport. At the time and arguably now, the 5-series is the standard for sport sedans. That said, when things go wrong, they go really wrong. In my case high pressure pumps (3 times) and it bled oil from multiple places, which ultimately led to me trading it in once I was able to get it to only a few leaks...! So this is a long way of saying that it depends what a buyer wants. If you want bullet proof, buy Toyota or Honda. If you want performance you roll the dice and understand you will pay for it with expensive schedules maintenance and some design issues (like what you’ve pointed out) that better be covered by warranty...! My Porsches were third and fourth vehicles in driveway so not most people’s norm. For me, the process to make choices in major purchases is as follows: Look at major reviews and find trends....ie Macan shows up in multiple top small SUV reviews; Look at forums; drive vehicles; look at recalls/Tech Service Bulletins on vehicles you’ve down-selected; buy preowned (my 2020 Macan had 1509 miles on it); make financing decisions based on how long you anticipate owning it, and therefore covered by warranty; pull the trigger and enjoy! Only request I’d have for you is provide factual info (years affected and known successes in addressing issue) and less opinion. You were all over the place in your video, using terms like “great” and “would only buy it at a low enough price” in the same video... Regardless, here we are talking about your video, which should be helpful to a wide audience, so keep up the good work!
@@richl8988 this is a customers vehicle with all service records from Porsche. Design flaws have nothing to do with service records unfortunately. Manufacturers are making cars disposable these. This is not like my Porsche 911 Turbo with a Mezger engi bullet proof reliability. I compare to what a Porsche is supposed to stand for and so far the Macan is giving them a bad name. Those days are long gone now when cars were quality. I will just list a few, I have been fortunate to own over 17 Porsche's, 12 being 911s, currently have 3 left, including 8 BMWs "all sold" , 2 Audi's, 3 Mercedes AMG cars and a Ferrari 599GTB. My experience with quality and craftsmanship is pretty high. As a European shop, I am tired of the overpriced junk, that also goes for BMW, Audi and Benz. PORSCHE is still way better than the rest. But when I say Porsche I am talking about 911s.
In one sentence he say’s “this is a terrible car” then follows that up with “it’s a great car” 3 minutes later. WTF… Clueless legend in his own mind. Oil leaks at the timing chain cover are quite common among several brands including Toyota who’s at or near the top in overall build quality. The Macan is an incredible car for what it is. It’s 3:28 become the #1 selling Porsche by a wide margin for a good reason.
This is 100% accurate and thanks for the video. These oil leaks are very common on the Macan. Just read the forums. I had the issue on my 2016 Macan S and I'm still not convinced the issue was completely resolved by my local dealer. When the issue was diagnosed, I asked the SA how common it is and his response was "far more than it should be." I was also told that the factory has made no adjustments to the torque specs or bolts in later model Macans. My sense, too, is that there's no factory specified fix for the issue (as no recall or bulletin has been issued for the problem). In other words, the techs are left to their own devices to determine how to repair the issue which will lead to further problems and potential fails. Luckily, I'm still under warranty. If you're not, expect at least a $5K bill for this repair. Absolutely inexcusable for Porsche to not address this issue for an ever increasing number of Macan owners.
Beware, i have the macan s 2016, transmission and oil leaks started on dic 2020. Transmissión damage. Repair cost $25,000.
they did issues a TSB 92A, 970, 95B
D460 in Nov 2019 for TCC oil leak
@@TheGardenMG This issue continued in the 2020 Macan S?
@@carlossantini the TSB only covers until MY2017, I don't believe 2019 or beyond would have the same problem, it's a different engine.
@@carlossantini Where you driving your MACAN S in Sport mode all the time? All Twin Cluch transmissions over heat /wear out if they shift gears constanly (Normal mode to safe gas/confort).
I appreciate your honesty and not sugar coating the review. thank you
Thank you for the honesty! I was considering a Macan to replace my Cayenne Turbo and will probably pass on it now. I hope you have thick skin! Because the internet doesn't like honesty when it comes to Porsche reliability! :)
I think you are spot on with the same issue on the VW Tiguan. Lady friend of ours bought a one year old Tiguan around 6 yrs ago and it had engine oil leak. Not sure specifically from where. Luckily the vehicle was still under Warranty but she got stuffed around being a lady. She had to take her car to the dealer several time before it was fixed after she said she will complain to consumer protection authority. Watching from Australia.
I got one since 4 years and am extremely happy. I had BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Range Rover before and wasn’t as happy before. No issues at all. Reading the other comments below I don’t think we are lucky with having no problems but prob u got bad luck getting some broken cars.
Whats your thoughts on Range Rover Sports 2017?
@@jaggyjut I didnt own one of these but my wife still wants to get that model:) I have friends who have one since years and are pretty happy with it. Btw. as my feedback is already over a year old - the Macan still didnt cause any kind of problem:)
Same. I have a 2015 Macan S, 50k miles. No issues, no oils leaks.
Guys I would advice taking the cover off and checking the sides. The leak will eventually happen because of the aluminum bolts. I've had 2 Macans and they have had this problem. Both around their 20-30k mile range.
If you buy a used Macan, can you have all the bolts upgraded to steel to prevent this?
GOD KNOWS I APPRECIATE AN HONEST MECHANIC......THANK YOU!!!!!!!
The main BMW N20 engine issue is failure of the plastic timing chain guide. Those are known to randomly fragment into pieces. The fragmentation typically causes one of two issues. One, the fragments get lodged in the chain and cause it to skip a tooth. The other is the fragments land in the oil system and block oil flow throughout the engine. Either situation is potentially fatal to the N20 engine. These N20 failures were so common that BMW lost a class action lawsuit over them.
When youre paying $70k for an SUV and the manufacturer cant address oil leaks then something is wrong...Totally inexcusable.
I still want one. I’m mechanically inclined so thanks for the heads up ❤
I've had a 15' Mecan S since May 14' and have had no issues (80k miles do far). I've upgraded to Cobb stage 1 (flat6), intakes, and Diverter valves. Brraaapppp!!!
Hey brother I also have a 2015 macan S and I want to do stage 1 Cobb how much power are you making
@@arekkot1013 the published dyno on the Falt6 stage 1 is ~425hp with a bunch of early torque. night and day! together with intakes and the diverter valve, upgrade-it's a no-brainer.
@@ikaikaboo what parts of your warranty was voided with putting mods on specifically the cobb tune, because i want to do it but don’t want my warranty in the trash
@@jacksoncreations6509 I did all the mods after my warrant ended.
My Macan is 15’ but almost 200,000km already. Still ok, just rear suspension replaced.
I have a 2018 Macan. No oil leaks. Consumers Reports and all other sources say among the most reliable SUVs on the road. Both my Porsche dealer and independent specialist say Macan is very reliable.
If its a Non S, its not the same engine as the S model. Glad you have no issues.
Yes I have the Turbo. THX
@@vanceshaw3675 if yours has been fixed you won't have any issues. If you want to check this, pull the bottom engine cover off and inspect. Most are not aware that they even have engine oil leaks unless it is properly inspected with cover removed. Some of our new customers were made aware of the oil leaks only after there warranty ran out.
@@TopAutomotiveInc what’s your experience with the new 2.9 twin turbo?
If the major problem of a car is bolts, then you know its a very good car, never eard this problem in european models
Not true. Bolts hold it all together and they should not be breaking and causing problems.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Sounds like the previous mechanic didn't bother with a torque wrench if those bolts had sheared like that.
He's telling the truth people. I just returned a 2018 Macan S because of this issue. Dealership wanted $13,000 to take engine out and reseal. Porsche should be ashamed of themselves. A class action lawsuit needs to happen or they need to do a recall.
Guy speaks his mind. Don’t judge
Had a Macan GTS that was diagnosed with a cracked bolt on the timing chain cover causing loss of oil. They had to drop the engine out of the vehicle in order to perform the service. Luckily it was still under warranty. The vehicle was never the same. I traded it on a 2019 base Macan. I'll be watching out for this problem on my new Macan . Definitely unloading it before the warranty expires if any hint of an oil leak problem develops.
I agree
How’s the base Macan treating you these days?
@@cpg8000 Still have the base Macan. Only issue so far is a periodic loss of power when accelerating. Seems the transmission selects a higher gear at times and creates a occasional lag when getting up to speed. No oil leaks noted so far...but it only has 18,000 miles on it. Thanks for asking. FK
@@fhkazm thank you for the detailed reply. Yes, the PDK seems programmed to upshift in the normal mode. Sport I find solves the problem. Glad to hear it’s working out overall. I have a ‘17 S and have encountered the TCC oil leak among other problems as well. A newer base is on my mind.
If oil leaks are your biggest issue you are doing pretty good. You should see the BMWs they are are damn oil sinks. This car may have issues yes, but sounds like the issue you presented was workmanship.
I’m in my third month of ownership of a CPO 2017 Macan S, bought with only 17k miles. I love the ride, drive and features of this car. However I’ve just noticed oil leak from passenger side front of engine. I haven’t been able to get car up and bottom cover off, but just what I’m able to see it’s most likely the timing cover. Disappointing as I’ve put only about 1500 miles on it, and think this should’ve been caught during the dealership’s CPO workup. Good news for me is that car is still under original warranty. This car replaced a 2009 997.2 Carrera that was bulletproof for the 2 1/2 years and 10k miles I owned it.
2:42, how do you quantify not much money? My 2021 Macan Turbo stickered for $108,XXX. I feel that is a little more than average vehicle cost, no?
If I ever have a problem with my Macan S, I don’t have a problem = never let warranty expire!!
love your videos, very detailed and informative.
Hi I had a 2017 a Macan S for 3 years. No problems with it at all. Great residual value on it too. Having seen your video I must just have been lucky.
2016 75k miles so far so good, only 1 recall for fuel pump flange!
the Porsche badge leaches off the fame and reliability of the 911s so the residual value is good, even if the car you're buying is a mostly re-badged Audi/VW product.
If you have your car serviced at the dealer, they will not tell you that you have a leak as they have been instructed not to until you’re out of warranty. This helps them, avoid a mass recall. The oil leak is rather slow so they can get away with not saying anything. Plus, until you take the bottom cover off, you won’t see any oil leaking on the ground as the felt on the cover absorbs the oil.
@@cpg8000 that in itself is so disappointing. That's the kind of behavior I would expect from junky third rate dealer networks for economy cars like Chrysler, Ford, Nissan GM from back in the day, not Porsche. What a damn shame.
@@AoDAzrael it really is a shame, and such a let-down of what is supposed to be a premium brand and product. I have since sold the car, as I just couldn’t handle the liability of it breaking. Broke my heart, as I special ordered it to my liking and loved the way it drove.
Would this be applicable in diesel version as well?
Well this is definitely unfortunate as they drive really well. I thought BMW using soft magnesium bolts on the water pump (I changed one on an X5 we had) was bad but this is a lot worse because loss of oil can be fatal for an engine. As for modern DFI motors I change the oil every 5000 miles because of the potential for oil dilution. Thanks for the video.
Valve cover leak isn’t the end of the world. Macan was made to be sporty, not only to cater towards the lower market. These are expensive new. Replacing the HPFP at 40k miles is an absolutely ridiculous recommendation. Finally, early BMW N20 had timing chain GUIDE issues due to poor guides and 10-12k oil intervals. Not fuel pump.
This guy seriously concerns me with his lack of info.
Why would you use a dissimilar metal on an aluminum vehicle? That’s a recipe for heavy corrosion which would lead to far more issues than a small oil leak.
Yep engine failures on the 3.0 Turbo in the Macan S…. Story of my life. Comes in knock knock who’s there. Shavings in oil filter and a very expensive repair
Damn! I love the Macan but if they cheaped out then nevermind. I had a 997.2 and my wife had a boxster..we also had a Cayenne Diesel..all of which were bulletproof. No problems out of any of them. Porsche is a premium brand..I hope they arent sacrificing quality to get prices down. I'd rather pay more and have reliability over cheaper price and it's always in the shop.
I am with you on that
Speaking of Macan, I have a new one in that the AC is not blowing cold lol. New car lol
@@TopAutomotiveInc you have GOT to be kidding me! What is going on at Porsche???
@@JeremiahHartmanPhotography no one cares anymore
@@TopAutomotiveInc you're right...everyone makes throw away cars now..doesn't care about customer satisfaction or loyalty. I call it the "China Affect"...just make cheap disposable sh1t
Thanks for the honest review!👍🏻
15 macan turbo here. Never had these issues, nor heard of them being the aluminum bolts.
But agree, I will replace with steel should it start to leak
Sounds like the previous mechanic on this car who he said had swapped out the engine had never bothered to use a torque wrench.
How many bolts would you have to replace if you were to swap them in all of the problem spots?
Right, understood. My point is half of the folks that commented on your video appeared to be perspective buyers. So in my comment was just sharing my decision process, which includes service records. This is the challenge of combining two topics in your video: 1. Talking about the oil leaks and design defect and 2. The natural conclusion of whether to buy a Macan or not. Your factual points are valid. Let’s also keep it real; these are not cheap vehicles. Unless you’re talking a preowned or really stripped down new vehicle, these are 70k + when optioned. It just happens to be the lowest cost SUV that Porsche offers. For me it was not that it was the cheapest, but the right fit of size performance and style...when compared to any other SUV of this class.
I hear you. When I have time, Ill make some more videos. Maybe a buyers guide as well.
That would be great. Will be interesting to see what you come up with!
Do Macans with facelift (produced in 2018 or after) have the same issues?
Great video, I wanted to know what exactly you were talking about at the end of the video regarding what you also need to replace “coils”? The transcript doesn’t have type it (@6:42). I own a 2017 turbo @ 61k miles…
Thanks for your valuable information
Driving my Macan for over 3 years now, without ANY problems!
The 3.6L? That is the good engine the 2.0L leaks for sure.
@@vasaguy7624 3.0 twin turbo
@@vasaguy7624 nope, I have the 2L engine, like I wrote, 3 years intense driving, over 66K miles, no problem at all
@@vasaguy7624 How can you even write this? Do you have this car with such an engine? Or did you get your wisdom from facebook and TikTok?
@@brokernaples i have and is with no problems at all
Thanks, man. I have a 18 GTS and am trying to decide whether to keep it or not. Dealer just fixed the oil leak by only replacing two top bolts. May I know how many broken bolts you normally had in your shop? Do you have any customer encountering oil leak for the second time? Thanks again.
I was reading the macan reddit forums and apparently that is the new and less expensive fix. Before it was engine out and replace all bolts.
Did the Research, then stayed away from 3L and All their problems. then purchased a CPO 2018/Macan 2L (in service less than 5mo/2,263miles) for over $10,662.5 off list/ including tax tax. PLUS they gave us a 5yr 100k factory warranty too. So got a bit over a 1yr depreciation factor Plus the 5yr or 100k bumper/bumper Porsche Factory warranty.
How do you past that up???
Okay so yeah, 35,000 miles I had a timing cover leak, Porsche told me that's normal for these cars! Thankfully its covered under warranty, what do you recommend as I live on the west coast. Change out all the bolts? Recently there was a fuel pump recall.
I get what your saying but the Cayenne is an ugly car, apart from the new 2020 coupe model, which they had to fix and emulate the Macan body more as more people were buying the Macan than the ugly looking old man Cayenne. The Macan looks like a beast and sounds like a beast and you can do more modifications than the Cayenne. Anyway I would love to know where I can go to get all the aluminum bolts replaced to avoid leaks?
We replace them with coated steel bolts to avoid issues in the future. Most Porsche shops will install the same alum bolts that fail.
Where do you get the coated steel bolts?
I have a Macan Turbo. You have me wanting to sell it now! I got a great deal on it and the value has went up about 20% to this day.
I wouldn't sell it - just make sure you have a warranty and you're good
The Macan is Porsche’s biggest selling model. This is very bad news. I was seriously considering a Macan S. I really don’t want to go the way of Tesla, but this kind of poor mechanical design is unforgivable.
Keep in mind that this ONE particular Macan had an engine swap, performed by a moron who didn’t put it back together correctly. This "mechanic" contradicts himself constantly and can’t give a definitive answer about anything. There are no known issues like this for these vehicles apart from this specific instance. If the mechanic is lazy or cognitively inept in any way....... They’re going to ruin anything NO MATTER THE BRAND OR MODEL.
Use your head and do some research of your own. You might surprise yourself.
Did you know that the word "gullible" has been removed from the dictionary?
numbereightyseven Responding to a mechanic’s negative review of the Macan makes me gullible? You’re quite judgmental. YT is a source of great info - not all accurate and not all wrong. If you have educated info on the Macan, please feel free to share.
How much to replace these with steel bolts and replace the fuel pump to prevent the issues? Thinking of buying a 2016 macan turbo
Currently going the oil leak crap with my 2016 macan s
Thank you for making this video. Now I know why Carmax is selling this car really cheap.
The Porsche fix was to release stronger aluminum bolts (not steel) for the timing chain cover. Earlier you had to drop the engine and replace the timing chain cover and gasket, plus install new (defective-weak) bolts. The bolts actually crack, which is strange. That means that during assembly at the factory, the bolts are over-torqued and crack or the bolts were defective. Then over time the driver will experience oil leaks at low mileage. Seems to happen on both the earlier 3.6L V-6 Porsche engine and even the new Audi 3.0L/2.9L V-6 engines.
Every time you visit the Porsche dealership have them check these bolts for cracks and look for oil leaves. If they haven't already, have the dealership replace these bolts with the stronger bolts. It might be that other engine covers have loose or cracked bolts (valve covers, etc.).
Wow that is very informative, thanks su much for the info. I just bought my Macan S 2015 2 weeks ago and this is the only thing that worries me. It is still under CPO. I see you also have a Mustang GT500
Love your honesty
Can't believe a modern high tech car still use copper spark plugs, that's why the service schedule asks for them to be changed at every 30k miles, I put in Japanese iridum plugs, much better throttle response, iridum can last at least 100k miles..
What about the 2020 and 2021? Maybe they fixed all the bad things about the Macan.
Fuel pump change at 50000 or 100000miles? And which bolts do I tell them to change? All aluminium bolts on the engine?
And what was the other recommendation at 60000 miles? Coil?? Couldnt quite catch it. Thanks
Same here. Replayed it several times and couldn't tell what he said there to replace.
Yes, mechanic fuel pumps. Timing cover bolts, normally timing cover needs to be removed to change the gaskets as well.
whats said at 6:42? whts the second thing other than replace high pressure fuel pumps?
I have had to replace the transfer case twice in first 27K miles on my 2015 Macan S. First time Porsche reimbursed me $3,000 for the repair when they extended the warranty on this part to 7 years due to so many problems with their transfer cases. 2nd transfer case I will need to pay for because I am 6 weeks past the 7 year warranty. Seems many owners are starting to replace for 2nd time. Porsche should be recalling the Macans for this issue. Very disappointed with Porsche not taking ownership of their faulty transfer cases.
That's too bad! That's another weak area.
@@TopAutomotiveInc any thoughts on the Macan S modules.? My Macan has now been at dealer for 6 weeks - first they replaced transfer case (my 2nd replacement) and still error codes show and car cannot be put in AWD. It is stuck in rear drive only and no sport mode allowed. After their tech, Porsche field rep, and field rep mgr they determined I have 7 modules coded incorrectly (how does ths even happen?). They are hoping replacing 3 will allow them to code the other 4. Cost for 3 replacements is $4,900. My bill is already $8K+ on my 2015 with 27,000 miles and climbing. I hate to see the cost if all 7 modules need replacing.
@@Michael-ub9jb We have never heard of 7 modules being coded wrong. 1 module coded wrong is rare. Most can be recorded by changing option data. Find an independent p-car shop and get a 2nd diagnostics.
@@TopAutomotiveInc Thank you for the quick reply. I am my wit's end. They have had the car for 6 weeks!!! They tell me they can recode the modules and get the system running but once car is shut off and restarted the coding is lost and problems returm. I feel at this point they have me by the you know whats. I would hope the dealer and Porsche field reps would not lie to their customers. But nowadays who knows.
You seem very knowledgeable
Are all these issues for all model
Years?
I just bought a 2015 macan S with only 35000 and CPO
Do I need to be scared ?
Porsche just mailed me an extended warranty for the Transfer Case! 2014-2018 MACANS. Please Pin this comment so people see it. They’re fixing it for FREE!!
Did you ever get it done?
@@Embrxceyourdemons of course. recall
@@ChristianDaSilvaFilms if you don’t buy from a Porsche dealership I’m guessing they still honor this? Thinking of buying a used Macan S 2018
@@Embrxceyourdemons I bought mine preowned from land rover. Doesn't matter
@@ChristianDaSilvaFilms perfect thank you for the helpful information brother
Brilliant video,you should have your own tv channel !! 10/10
I'm relatively new to the porsche market but I wonder how they could make a mistake this large if they are touted as some of the greatest engineers. Isn't this just a matter of knowing metal properties. Also is it worth buying one of these cars after the repairs have been made? I guess my real question is how damaging is it to run a car with oil leaks if you constantly top off the oil?
Not an option. Eventually, leaking oil will destroy belts, electrical components, derail belts… It’s a ticking time bomb.
I test drove a Macan the other day, 5 years old with 22k miles on the clock. I looked for a oil leak underneath but couldn't see any as I'm aware of this problem. Drove the car around town and it was very good then I opened it up on a country road that was twisty and bumpy, my God it was all over the place, I don't think I'll buy one after that, put me right off.
Lol, any car would be "all over the place" on a bumpy road.
does the newer 2.0L turbo four cylinder Porsche Macan have oil leaks too? does it have even worse reliability?
I was wondering that as well.
Many people are asking about the more recent Macan (Post 2018) - This issue is no longer there. If you own a Porsche, make sure to renew the warranty... Don't buy a car you can't afford. Porsche are expensive, and maintenance is expensive.
Your tips are pretty much lifesaving! Thanks for the insightful video.
I just bought a 2020 Macon S, didn't do a ton of research on this model but hoping it's as much or more enjoyable then my MB GLC300 was. any tips or suggestions is appreciated...
Get it serviced regularly and find a good mechanic who will probably do the repairs that will swap the parts for good parts.
Great video! Our 2017 Macan S going into the shop at 46k to fix the timing cover oil leak. What a shame that Porsche has this issue. Lucky I purchased the extended drive train warranty as the standard factory expired. Now, I'll need to keep an eye on the high pressure fuel pump internal leak. Question... what is being said at the 6:42 mark in this video? What is it that is recommended for replacement?
Not exactly sure, but I think he said 'coils". Could be wrong.
That's why you get extended warranty it covers the whole power train
Thanks so much for this video.
I’m buying a 2017 Macan GTS. WHICH EXACT BOLTS should be upgraded to minimize oil leaks? And it has 60K miles, should I change the HPFP?
Unless its leaking, no
New ones use steel bolts
Which model and years (range) of Cayenne would you recommend to buy used? Thanks
How does the facelifted 2.9L V6 (TT) compare?
At 1:36 you mentioned the bolts are aluminum and they should be replaced with metal. Kinda made me spit my drink out lol
Anyone know if it is 'one and done' when these leaks are repaired? If you bought one with the bolts repair done, do you have to worry about it coming back? Thanks!
When they do the repair, they are supposed to replace the aluminum bolts with steel bolts, which is what should have been used in the first place.
If buying used, wouldnt any issues have been rectified after the first 24’ months ?
2017 Macan S with 15k miles, timing cover leak... luckily the car is still under warranty. These also have the transfer case issues too and I’m not looking forward to experiencing that. I think the wife and I will trade this in for a Lexus RX350.
Update?
They did ever addresses this in the newer models
Youre on point and agree with literally everything except the part you spoke about how it drives. I have to very strongly disagree specially compared to Cayenne. Which the suspension feels bouncy and more SUV like. I have a GTS and it drives more like a Panamera. Also test drove a lot of cars and this one was the best feeling one.
6:42 what was that which should also be replaced?
Does the Macan 3.6 Twin Turbo have the same oil leak and fuel pump issues?
Looking at a used 2016 Macan S first porche , wow now I am worried and was so excited, I really like the body style of the Macan and the price of course and it will be my first luxury car ..is there a particular year that you found that won’t have these issues or less of the bolt oil leak issues ?
Honestly enjoy it until there is a problem.
2018 and later use an Audi engine with a different design but it's too soon to know what problems they may have.
Thanks for this review - I have been looking at buying a Macan, but had heard about oil leak issues - I was told the problem was fixed with 2018 Macan models? or do you recommend a Cayenne? Thanks!
Did you ever get one?
How is the reliability and what are the common problems with 2.0T 4 cyl Macans?
Amsoil 100% synthetics can prevent oil leaks and can make car engine last 5 times much longer.
I own a 2015 Macan S, and I am having problems with LKA. Also, the car struggles to keep itself in the lane; it kind of swerves all over. Can you recommend any fixes?
i was told these problems were fixed on the 2019. do you concur?
yeah dude, and macan is of a better build quality than the cayenne tbh, more compact and sporty.
@@macanclub2365 I want to be fare and say Porsche did a pretty good job on an entry level compact SUV. The problem is they had to cut corners to save money in order to still make profit just like the Boxster vs 911. I had a 2019 Macan for a very short time myself, I was very disappointed compared to my Turbo Cayenne that I still own, but it was expected per the price difference. This was a very bumpy SUV but handled well almost as good as my gen2 Cayenne Turbo with hydrogen suspension variable system. Macan had very low head room in the drivers seat for me and my wife and I am under 6FT forget about rear leg room in the back. I can say that a Macan is not a better built car compared to a Cayenne, it can't because its price tag is 50k+. "Someone ones said to me that a Boxster car was a better built car than a 911, and this was because they owned one" I have owned and worked on many Porsches throughout the years, including many Cayenne's and macan's. (Certified porsche tech. 2011+ Gen 2 cayenne is a much better built car by a mile, way better built quality, better brakes, better suspension, bigger and better brakes, entertainment system, interior with no fake leather seats like the macan, cayenne has a way better built engine including forged pistons on turbo cayennes and piston oil cooling and Asin reliable Japanese transmission ect. This does reflects a higher price tag of course. But that being said, macan is still a better compact SUV in its class.
Lets hope they will soon, I had a 2019 for a short time and they are the same aluminum bolts still with no change.
@@TopAutomotiveInc ...Porsche... pulling the wool over the eyes of GLORIFIED VW FANBOYS ALL DAY LONG
Just had the exact problem on my 2019 macan base yesterday only 4300 miles, taking it to the dealership next week.
Porsche has just extended their warranty on Transfer Cases on Macan 7yr/unlimited miles and Cayenne 10yr/unlimited miles.
That’s a different issue than the timing case cover bolts shearing off and causing oil leakage.
@@gonschor7dleven I know that, but it was also a giant concern as well. Just thought to put it out there.
Where can people buy those steel bolts? Are all the bolts the same size or some of them are longer than others? I think a list of the bolts would be helpful for the DIYs.
Dude I looked online i believe ARP bolts the ones I use on my high HP Honda CRXs make bolts for the MACAN if they do its drop the front or have a Porsche friend mechanic slip them in the fix when they do the Work under warranty and your problem is solved ARP are freaking heat treated Steel and will not F break period.
Great impartial review. Thanks.
Great info thanks!
@Top Auto Nick
Hi Nick, are these issues all the same with Macan diesel engines? Thanks for sharing and helping others!
No, diesel are not the same.
Thanks Nick! So is it good to buy Macan disel?
I love watching review done by mechanics, unlike the yappers that have no clue
Excellent & valuable vid:) I was thinking of buying a new base Macan 2020 or 2021. Seems like you are saying the bolts are still a problem till at least 2019 and that they don't listen and it is likely a problem in the 2020 & 21s? Maybe I should look for a used base Cayman in a stick to compliment my 2015 Audi Q5 that has been perfect except for the replacement of the turbo on the 2 litre last week which lucky got covered under warranty despite being pass warranty? What years of the Cayman would you recommend? Thank you.
When the bolts break, you can have them replaced with metal ones or replace them now before they break and you will be good to go.
I think you should be more concerned with your Q5!
Do you haves a link to the bolts you recommend and is this an easy job for owner to do themselves?
You own Audi Q5 and you worried about a Porsche? C’mon.
I agree with this man, they cheap out on the design because of profit. I own the turbo and i like the car so im trying to fix all the little issues before they show their ugly faces.
Are these issues applicable to certain years or even the 2020s ? Can you also do a similar review on the new cayenne
All gen1s will have issue at some point and time. Yours has a different engine in the gen2.
@@TopAutomotiveInc
What year did the engine gen change? 2018?
@@nicholasa6291 2019
Can someone please explain to me why aluminum bolts would break and cause oil leaks if you always remove and torque them the way you should and not recklessly? Also, he mentions it drives “cheap”..compared to what, a 911? Because driving even a base Macan to me feels much better than 90% of the cars in its class.
Thanks for the video, does the macan turbo has the same issue?
This is the only video I've seen that talks about the oil leak problem and reading the comments it seems its still an uncommon issue. I'm coming from a 2006 BMW M6 looking to switch to a macan lol
I have a 2016 Macan S and it has had many recall/warranty issues. The dealership took care of all of them with no problems at all. The vehicle is a joy to drive. I've never owned a sports car but this vehicle is far sportier than the sports sedans I've owned. I do not regret the purchase and will be trading it in on another S or GTS. Would not get the base model, though. Kind of slow.
It's common, it's so common there is a TSB for this problem. TSBs re not issued for uncommon issues.
It's common, it's so common there is a TSB for this problem. TSBs are not issued for uncommon issues.
The newer Audi fuel pumps never have problems...The older ones, 08 and older had a problem where they chewed up the camshaft, but they never leaked gas into the crankcase
Watch the rs7 videos with failed internal seals.
I think people need to understand that if you want to buy a Porsche, you really need to buy a 911, 718, or maybe a Panamera ... the rest are re-badged Audi and VW products .. but really the truest Porsche is the 911.
I own a Macan and an Audi Q7 and its nothing alike!! The Macan is in a different league. The Audi has cheap interior and not well configured. The Macan is a more sporty, dynamic and beastly.
@@andreascalais yeah, Porsche takes the interiors way up in terms of quality, but mechanically a Macan has a lot of parts in common with VW/Audi platforms and even share the same platform... the truly Porsche cars are the 718 and 911.
@@Sams911 Yes they share similar parts etc, but don't perform nothing alike. You can hear my Macans turbo spooling from a mile away, the PDK transmission is in a completely different league, the suspension, handling, exhaust are out of this world. My car sounds like a race car with a good tune and some intake work. The Audi is a good soccer moms car really! Thats why my wife drives it!
@@andreascalais Porsche did in fact tune the suspension and add their own parts (I believe the lower A-arms and sway bars are unique to Porsche, but it's like comparing a Cadillac Esclade with a GMC Denali ... they share a platform... If you want to experience driving a "Porsche" tho.. the car that shares it's origins with the original VW Beetle, and has that legendary boxer engine... DRIVE a 911.. or if you want to keep the budget real... the 718, that's all I'm saying. Anyway, enjoy the Macan ... best SUV in the price range out there for sure.
@@andreascalais Also, do watch for carbon coking on the intake valves, due to the VW designed Direct Injection V6 they're using ... this issue plagues all VW and Audi, as well as BMW and some Mercedes cars that went to GDI to save the environment ... Oddly, even though the boxer engine in the 911 and 718 is also GDI, the intake valves stay clean due to the design of the PCV and intake manifold system.
Hmm which model Macan are you referring to? GTS or T or overall
I think the same mechanical pump is also being used in some Cayennes models also, they must be also suffering...
Thank you ,,,,,, and yes those tips did help!
What are the symptoms for a bad/need replacement high pressure fuel pump?
does this include clicking noise when engine is revved?
That's normal sounding and clean function 👌
Do the 2.0 4 cylinder have the same problems as the 6 cylinder? I have a 2018 macan 26k miles and it runs great so far
Update?
Mine still runs like a champ. No issues
@@mikemorris7776how many miles now?
@@Embrxceyourdemons we are just over 59k
@@mikemorris7776 that’s pretty good. I’m looking a buying either the 4 cylinder or 6 this month. Budget of 25k and mileage below 75k hopefully that’s not too many Miles for these!
Looking a title and watching video, poor analogy... Many manufacturers use aluminum bolts. They’re lighter and they’re one-time use typically. So for performance vehicles, such as BMW, Porsche etc...etc, this is the norm and a good excuse for manufacturers to sell more expensive parts. Yes aluminum bolts are more expensive than steel. As soon as this guy said Porsche should use metal bolts (Aluminum is a metal alloy) he lost credibility. For those of you that said they are not interested in the Macan after watching this video; you need to do more research and get off RUclips... Yes, I’m a former mechanic, yes I own Porsche products, 2020 Macan and 2017 Carrera. My two cents...and still worth my time to know that some Macan have oil leak issues...
The title is pretty accurate, we work on 70% of Porsche's and see the same parts failing. There is way too many cheap parts, plastic hose fitings can leak, and we should not be replacing them on vehicles that are only 3 years old on 50,000 miles. This is one of the first Porsche designed engines to borrow the junk VW/Audi HPFP that leak fuel into the crankcase when they fail, there is just no exuse for this. I have replaced way too many timing chains due to engine oil fuel dilution going back to VW/ Audis. Fuel mixing = major engine wear to all lubricating components. Aluminum bolts that are used as a fastener are a poor excuse for weight savings, manufactures use this excuse. This nothing but cost savings due to (bean counters).
Most metal bolts are coated with zink and alum flake, stainless bolts are also safe to use with aluminum. Manfucatures like Porsche and others have used steel bolts for cylinder heads, case halves, valve covers, timing covers, Brake calipers and many more engine parts and they have had zero issues. Why don't they have they not switched to all aluminum and why stop here? Simple answer, because engines would fail and explode! When Porsche did use aluminum fasteners for the vario cams on Panamera and Cayennes, the vario cams were exploding engine would fail. Most early engines were failing left and right and needed to be re-called and replaced. What did Porsche replacement bolts alum bolts with now? Yep, Steel bolts! Bmw did the same exact thing on the Vanos bolts and had the exact same results and what are they using now? Yep, steel bolts. This is why there is an open ATI on all Macan's for this BS. There are zero benefits to save .000001 oz. However, this is good job security for Porsche and repair shops, so I don't mind, let them make junk, we will fix it. Cheers!
I’m with you completely on an informed consumer base, and I understand posters want to use provocative titles for their videos...
I’ve owned several German cars over the years. Prior to buying the Macan S, only brands I had not owned were Audi and Porsche (bought Carrera S after Macan). All manufacturers dip in the parts bin of sister brands. Just look at ultra high-end British brands using German engines. In the case of the Macan, research showed 20% Audi content. This topic is very situational. If those parts are proven over time in another model, then that’s a good thing... I also own two Toyotas 2009 Land Cruiser and 1974 Land Cruiser (FJ40). You’d be hard pressed to find more reliable vehicles. So I’ve accepted that when you pursue “performance” vehicles there are trade-offs. Had a 2008 BMW 535i Sport. At the time and arguably now, the 5-series is the standard for sport sedans. That said, when things go wrong, they go really wrong. In my case high pressure pumps (3 times) and it bled oil from multiple places, which ultimately led to me trading it in once I was able to get it to only a few leaks...! So this is a long way of saying that it depends what a buyer wants. If you want bullet proof, buy Toyota or Honda. If you want performance you roll the dice and understand you will pay for it with expensive schedules maintenance and some design issues (like what you’ve pointed out) that better be covered by warranty...! My Porsches were third and fourth vehicles in driveway so not most people’s norm. For me, the process to make choices in major purchases is as follows: Look at major reviews and find trends....ie Macan shows up in multiple top small SUV reviews; Look at forums; drive vehicles; look at recalls/Tech Service Bulletins on vehicles you’ve down-selected; buy preowned (my 2020 Macan had 1509 miles on it); make financing decisions based on how long you anticipate owning it, and therefore covered by warranty; pull the trigger and enjoy! Only request I’d have for you is provide factual info (years affected and known successes in addressing issue) and less opinion. You were all over the place in your video, using terms like “great” and “would only buy it at a low enough price” in the same video... Regardless, here we are talking about your video, which should be helpful to a wide audience, so keep up the good work!
P.S...ask for service records on a pre-owned vehicle BEFORE you buy it. If dealer/private owner drags feet, move on...
@@richl8988 this is a customers vehicle with all service records from Porsche. Design flaws have nothing to do with service records unfortunately. Manufacturers are making cars disposable these. This is not like my Porsche 911 Turbo with a Mezger engi bullet proof reliability. I compare to what a Porsche is supposed to stand for and so far the Macan is giving them a bad name. Those days are long gone now when cars were quality. I will just list a few, I have been fortunate to own over 17 Porsche's, 12 being 911s, currently have 3 left, including 8 BMWs "all sold" , 2 Audi's, 3 Mercedes AMG cars and a Ferrari 599GTB. My experience with quality and craftsmanship is pretty high. As a European shop, I am tired of the overpriced junk, that also goes for BMW, Audi and Benz. PORSCHE is still way better than the rest. But when I say Porsche I am talking about 911s.
That's a well thought out rebuttal. I have a question. Is Audi Q5 2 lt Turbo and the Macan 2 Lt Turbo engine the same?
Hello Nick, hope you can help me. I’m planning to buy a 718 cayman gts 4.0 (2022) is this leak present in those models?
Hi Nick, I'm wondering if the 2.9 L v6 macan (engine shared with cayenne) also have this issue? thanks!
Fortunately it doesn't have this issue, it is addressed. What I am not quite sure is the leaking sunroof