Crazy Things Muslim Scholars Say About Slavery
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Crazy things Muslims scholars say about slavery to defend the barbaric practice featuring Mufti Abu Layth.
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Maybe if Allah had knowledge of the future he could have told Prophet Muhammad to tell the Ummah that a day would come when slavery would become 'unnecessary'.
you cannot kidnap someone directly to make him a slave, but if someone else kidnap him for u and sell him at the market, then u can buy that slave.
*Exactly!!* And I'm pretty sure that's what the Berbers were doing. (but I may be mistaken)
@@dyawr its against islam, but money, even steal they don't care
@@dyawr that's what the Arabs and Africans did in Trans Saharan Slave Trade, which persist far longer than Transatlantic slave trade. Account from many people including Ibn Batuta telling of Muslim merchants luring children with dates and snatching them from their families and force marched them to distant places. Some of those sub saharan slaves were either sold as slave soldiers, a domestic worker, mine worker, or as a eunuch.
Kind of like not being allowed to drink alcohol but it's okay to own a liquor store and sell alcohol to non- Muslims. 😂
Mufti Abu Layth...... better than his god, better than his prophet, and better than his holy book.
Well actually just prophet cause gd and prophet is the same
@@asathelogiclaman637 Yes, good point. Thanks for the correction. Allah was Profit Mo's alter ego.
@@rossini55 lool....i cant beleive muslims beleive in this cult really....but i understand they dont have a choice... Indoctrination is the worst type of rape er my opinion...you just shut down your intellect even though you are a doctor. And if its islam then.....its upgraded level kill the apostates....i am ex muslim i know why its so hard to even think of aposting...most freeking thing isnthat is islam it is haram to question your faith and doubt it...can you beleive it....
Its hard life for ex muslims man! I am forced to perform the 5 times robotic prayers a day
@@asathelogiclaman637 Sorry to hear you are trapped in this 'alternate reality'. Luckily people like Abdullah Sameer and many others are trying to make the world a better place by encouraging an enlightenment in the Islamic world, and give non-believers an escape from this obviously man-made cultural indoctrination.
Just bide your time bro, stay safe, and maybe things will improve.
I heard Daniel Pikachu argue that having a slave is better than having an employee, because you take better care of something you own than of something you borrow... Which says more about his bad morals then about the moral aspects of slavery.
bruh finally someone pointed it out
Some domestic helpers in Dubai, Kuwait/ UAE are sold by their employers as slaves on the internet
So basically its admitted that Quran is outdated in our day and age. This contradicts the fact islam claims to be the perfect religion and Mohammad being the final messenger revealing the last words of god in Quran for mankind to follow until the end of the world. if this was really the words of god not of man, there wouldn't be such nonsense and flaws.
That's why most of the arab muslim treat their domestic helper as a slave liked those Filipino house made that they hire.
I feel it makes no sense that Mohammed could ban alcohol but not slavery. The US abolished slavery in 1863 but didn’t manage to ban alcohol, though they tried for 12 years (Prohibition)
I admire your strength, your patience to watch their videos that are filled with manipulation, lies, nonsense. I have tried watching them as well but I just get mad.
An Islamic ‘scholar’ is someone who has memorised large chunks of a book. They are not professors and have little understanding of humanity!
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Going through your back catalogue Abdullah. So much great content. How can we get to raise awareness of your content? I feel it is incredibly needed and there is hardly anywhere where we can come to an environment and critically think for ourselves.
Poor mufti ....I pity him ...he is stuck there.
Yeah, its like being the Public Relations guy for Kim Jong Un.
Keep up the amazing work Abdullah
So, in conclusion this god lacked knowledge into the future and therefore his revelations and instructions are subjected to revision.
Meaning it was, it will be and it is A CULT.
This is what i think of
IF ITS WORD FROM GOD why most God words is not for eternity?
Not for future?
Not for context in future.
Why?
RUclips is not giving me a notification even though i hit the bell icon.
Oh dammmmnn. How did you find it then
@@FriendlyExmuslim i search for an upload everyday
@@salahcoolxx did you make sure to click the option "all" on the bell icon?
@@lalomunoz16 yes i did
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But what was the purpose of slavery for Muhammad and later the history of Islam. was the purpose of earning an income to wage war perhaps. and maybe something else. in Hadith it says that men were murdered and that their women were taken as slaves
Great work I like your efforts
Can I call myself a scholar if I know everything about unicorns?
Much of the sharia deals with managing slaves. The English translation of the sharia manual "Reliance of the Traveller" deliberately leaves out the entire section on slaves. No guesses why they did that. The same thing happens with many of the English translations of tafsir, such as Ibn Kathir. They leave out all the embarrassing material.
They are meant for gullible non muslims...especially westerners.
if the hatred of slaves can be turned into physical fire, the blaze will be no less powerful than hellfire
Great work bro!
Let's see who clips the end of MALM last video first lol
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@@FriendlyExmuslim lol my downloader is not working
At least he said it as it is... Respect for him
Good for him, he's better than his prophet...🙄
And was he really gonna try to argue Aisha's age as being a teenager at the time of marriage.?! This man has no clue what islam teaches.
I guess you do not know what a Mufti is? But know more about Islam to criticize someone? hahaha...move on kid.
He knows and thoroughly studied hadiths. However, he uses his brains and critical thinking unlike most muslims.
Yeah as if Mufti is your dads degree
Abdullah Sameer do you believe that Trajectory Hermaneutics is actually a valid concept in Islam, not just for slavery? When I was a Muslim I never heard the term. I'm not convinced now and I see it as modern tool of apologetics to save Islam's image. Mufti Abu Laith complains about Umar overruling the quran and then does the same thing by declaring slavery in the modern age as haram when clearly the quran doesn't and there's no clear indication in the hadith corpus that Muhammad intended to eradicate slavery. If I remember correctly Muhammad still owned slaves at the time of his death but I don't know if they were freed or bequeathed. His sahabah certainly had no problems with dealing in slaves.
At 11:09 ‘Allah says to prepare horses.’Isn’t that proof that the Quran s only for that time.
this mufti will be exmuslim one day... he is to good for that religion
Inshallah! 😂
Incorrect. Kidnapping was already outlawed in the New Testament and in Judaism long before Islam.
And loooooong before any of those books were written, anyone who's ever had a friend or loved one kidnapped also knew it to be wrong. Absolutely no "holy" books required!
How many black Africans were taken as slaves for Muslims over the centuries?
I've heard both incredibly high and incredibly low estimates of the numbers. Any ideas on which are closer to accurate?
Many were forced to trek across the Sahara, and it's been argued that 90& died on the trek so the numbers actually kidnapped were 10 times higher. Others were shipped by sea around East Africa. There was also a Mediterranean slave trade.
When the Atlantic slave trade began, how was it related to these earlier ones?
There are excellent articles from impartial sources about the Islamic slave trade a/k/a Arab Slave Trade. He is one of slave trade lasted three times longer and then slave five times more Africans than the Atlantic slave trade. Saudi Arabia only banned slavery in 1976 due to pressure from western corporations. They threatened to stop buying oil from OPEC and halt weapons sales. It is still legal in Sudan and Mauritania. Qatar treats foreign workers so badly, that it is effectively slavery.
If slavery is bad it is bad in all situations, if Allah is merciful and the Lord of all goodness, then why did he not put an end to it rather made it legit? If Mohammad was a true model of human behaviour and a giver of the perfect laws and behaviour, why did he not dictate against slavery rather practised it ?and thus perpetuated it. ? He cannot be a true prophet ..no way.
Yeah, it's all just a bucket of hogwash (yes, animal chosen intentionally). 🐖
Slaves captured in war is exactly how slavery started and worked in the Pagan Roman Empire.
Mufti Abu Layth and Dr Shabbier Ally are the only muslims online that called slavery for what it is and i respect them highly for that. Jonathan Brown who i thought was "liberal" spoke well about slavery (disgusting). Its a big mess..
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Ok bro...tks for yr explanation..
Lol. Abo layth doesn't know that Omar make Qur’an. Who speak the verse of the veiling or the verse of Abraham station واتخدوا من مقام ابراهيم مصلى so it's perfectly reasonable for him to abrogate things that he doesn't like.
And you did great job mentioning that specific incident because that exactly how muhammed brings new followers by bribing them المؤلفة قلوبهم😂😂😂
"What do you mean 'care taker'?" 😂
I like Mufti Abu Layth. He's pretty funny, secular & down to earth. 🤔👍
Whats about sh. Abdoullah hakim. He is defending muslim slavery!
The Pakistani preacher showing his biceps looks like a thug from GTA game.
Then there is perhaps a difference between what is said in Europe or the United States and what is said somewhere in the Middle East. Because there Can anyone say that there are no problems with slavery because it is not Muslims who become slaves. There is such a clip on RUclips. So we are not talking about what someone said 100 years ago. but about what someone has said in the last 20 years
"Trajectory Hermeneutics" look like the sheikh had recently learned a new term and specially made this video just to get it out of his system. 🤣
Greek Bible mention Muhammad name in Revelation chapter 13:18, Greek number 666 is Muhammad name.
That name Muhammad ("praiseworthy") was first used to refer to the Jesus of Christianity! Now how does that fit with your half baked conjecture?
Now, I don't think either of them are worthy of any praise, but your assertion is still flimsy.
Love the laugh 8:18
Duke Nukem is a muslim...
His voice is funny
Wtf! ‘Don’t confuse the vehicle for what it’s saying’. Apparently the word of Allah includes the burps, farts and sneezes!
Aaah, so loopholes. Isn't theology fun?!
From whence would the newer and higher morality/ethics come from?
I don't know if you noticed, but they'd come from the same place they've always come from (aside from what mythology and fairy tales claim) - that fact that we've evolved as a social species on this planet and we're not done evolving!
Allah dnt have no ethics
Well, no more than Sauron does!
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I am a former christian and muslim from the US. However i reject the writings of men applied backwards to scripture. God tells us to use our reason and apply our intellect. Having said that, i too still have much to understand while studying the Quran. In the Quran there seems to be three perspectives of revelation., prior to Muhammad, contemporary to Muhammad and what occurs after Muhammad. Those contexts are important. Slavery has always been and continues to be prevelant in human society, in one form or another. Muhammad was operating within an ancient paradigm. It wasn't his mission to change society or create a global caliphate. His mission was to warn individual men on accepting God as one, believing in the last day and to perform your duty to God in preparation for judgement. The same mission as all prophets. The world is the world, but any believer who is on the path would of course come to the conclusion that the practice of slavery is best left aside. Correct? I don't have chapter and verse memorized but Muhammad said as much. Each of us must work through our individual journey to get closer to God including turning from all of the terrible behaviours that lead us to the fire. Only God forbids and He is very specific in scripture and truth be told it's not a whole lot. It's on our conscience to decide. That's my perspective. (I would not personally hold another human being as obligated to me)
Damn, you obviously have been hoodwinked by whoever it is that converted you. Yes, Muhammad claimed in his Quran that he has been ORDERED to fight UNTIL ALL RELIGION BELONGS TO ALLAH. In basic english, it means he is to fight until all the world become muslim...global caliphate.
Secondly, he claimed he is the best moral example EVER for mankind. This was a man who owned his fellow humans as sex slaves! A man who lined up and beheaded more than 600 jews in a day! A man who tortured another man called kinana for money by tying him down and placing a bowl of fire on his chest! He later took kinana's wife as a slave and gave her to one of his men to rape her because his men were missing their wives! Upon realizing who she was, he took her for himself and married her. These are all in hadiths and tafsirs. They are all in there, read them for yourself. Islam is a CULT OF MUHAMMAD. I know because i was born into this cult and practiced it for more than 40 years of my life. Muslims are the best of salesmen when it comes to selling their cult because they will say anything you want to hear. Muhammad was not different from all cult founders. Except he was a really, really horrible man.
@@azhaniaorgena6941 Dude! Take all your hadith and burn it never read it again. Yes i was hoodwinked by God.
I'm sorry, this is plain nonsense!
Didn't für old disgust have slaves himself?
Traded with slaves? and was there a problem with black slaves ?
Abo layth is not Muslims. You just waste your time with him
I'm sure you have direct access to the mind of Alleh to determine who is and is not a Muslim. 😂
There are municipal sewage treatment plants less full of s**t!
1- Islam does not tolerate the mistakes of Muslims (today Muslims are living their worst days). As a Muslim, I acknowledge many of the mistakes that Muslims make (the religious among them before the non-religious).
2- I admit that most Muslim scholars these days, are not qualified to carry the message, but this does not detract from the value of the Qur’an
3- You should knew that, the books of interpretation of the Qur’an, These are the personal diligence of the commentators
4- You have a lack of understanding of the Qur’an, especially when you mentioned that the Qur’an described (all Jews) as worshiping Uzair.
5- The hadiths are not 100% true, they have been distorted with time, just like the Bible.
You are talking absolutely rubbish and making your own conclusions, how can you compare Riba with Slavery. You are doing the wrong interpretation of Quran teachings, completely misleading and useless talk, it is a waste to time to listen you
Slaves in Islam became kings and ruled over vast kingdoms, you cant say that transatlantic slavery or any other slaves for that matter
"Slaves in Islam became kings and ruled over vast kingdoms,"
Provide evidence.
@@Ruby-G Look up the Mamluks, Delhi Sultanate, Siddis of India, The Ghilmans of the Abbasid. Literally countless examples of slaves moving up social hierarchies to own vast swathes of land and power under islam.
@@SM-ly5tf Slaves have no choice but to convert to Islam and comply with their masters.
Slaves that converted to Islam are still slaves and slave soldiers like the Ghilmans are not free in Islam as they required permission of their masters. Ghilmans are even described as eternal "serving boys" for believers and treated as slave servants in paradise.
Muhammad never freed Bilal, his BIack slave convert. After Muhammad died, Bilal was passed on as a slave to Bakr as he had to beg Bakr to free him:
Narrated Qais: Bilal said to Abu Bakr, "If you have bought me for own then keep me for yourself to serve, but if you have bought me for the sake of Allah, then free me to do work for Allah."
(Sahih Bukhari 3755)
@@Ruby-G There is no compulsion in religion in Islam. A person who is forced to convert to islam, their islam is not accepted by Allah unless through their own free will, he is otherwise considered a "munafiq" or hypocrite. There was mutiple POW comabant non muslims enslaved. The Ghilmans has huge power within the abbasid household and they became prominent land owners and became notoriously wealthy.
Bilal was never owned by Muhammad. He was a slave of the Quraysh and was bought and freed by Abu Bakr under the command of Muhammad pbuh. Abu Bakr negotiated his purchase, and. Abu freed Bilal for the purpose of charity and goodness under Muhammads direction. The Qur'an recognises the emancipation of slaves as one of the permissible expenditures of alms and charity. (See the Qur'an 9:60, 2:177). Emancipation of slaves is the purest form of charity and retribution in Islam.
The hadith you quote was a response made by Bilal to Abu Bakr who suggested Bilal listen to him and stay in the safety and comfort of Hejaz(mecca/medina) to govern, spread religious knowledge and aid him an a advisor, rather than risk his life by going on a holy war (jihad), for which Bilal responded to Abu Bakr "If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake, then leave me for Allah's Work." Pay attention, by "Allahs work" Bilal means Jihad. After which Abu Bakr let Bilal go and he fought mutiple battles in present day Levant region. The hilarious thing is, the hadith you pointed out actually refutes you by 1) Pointing our Bilal was freed by Abu Bakr, not Muhammad 2) Proves Bilals piety and faithfulness to the teachings of Muhammad and Allah, by preferring holy war as opposed the relative comfort of Madina where he is a senior figure and authority.
@@SM-ly5tf Quran 2:221 aIlows you believers to keep other s/ave converts as s/aves.
Brother Abdullah meaning of your name is very good MashaAllah it means the servant of Allah.but your act is like servant of shaitan.may Allah subhanahu wa taala protect all of us from the deviated shaitans.ameen
Satan is morally superior to allah.
@@rossini55 🤣🤣🤣you dooin it satan is indirectly superior that Allah (Muhammad)....now its ok
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