That first train was definitely over the 110 limit for Heritage cars. Back in the day they would run them wide open to make up time. Spectacular K5LA music from that toaster as well. It’s a shame they don’t sound like that anymore.
bmp456 They probably were.. back then there were no computers in those engines. If you were late you sped up to make up time. I think. That what an old engineer told me
you can measure the speed pretty accurately since we know all the car lengths. Just pick a post and time how long it takes for the whole train to pass by that one spot.
@@Trainmaster909 This isn’t film, this is video. Frame rate is 30fps up to 60 interpolated, just like today. Plus, sped up film is pretty obvious from the sound and appearance of people, etc. These trains really were going faster, it was still two years before Chase and the old school mentality of looking the other way and hauling ass was still alive and well.
VERY nice. The shots at Bowie were especially great!! No mistaking the husky sound of Pooches on he Auto Train. Also the F-40's were not only loud with their engines having to be a Notch 8 for HEP, their motors would always be screaming at speed too.
6:51 The good old days before RUclips when people actually enjoyed having home movie video taken of them and they didn't have Social Networking phobias to worry about.
No doubt about it they were, especially the first train (with Heritage cars no less)! There’s even a cab ride clip in one of the early Pentrex NEC videos from this era of an AEM-7 speedometer hitting 130.
@@rene2072 ruclips.net/video/D7mbFiIH6-Q/видео.html 1:28 in this video shows the speedometer creeping up to 130 before the overspeed kicked in. It was set pretty high on some of these units.
@@amtrak706 None of the units I operated from 1981-2012 would operate that fast. FRA tried to say that nonsense 127 mph about train #94 before the crash at Chase January 1987. They rode with me from DC to Wilmington after the crash and admitted their tests of the speedometer were wrong.
@@rene2072 Did you happen to know or work with my father Lou/Louis/LC Swirsky? He was an engineer for Amtrak out of NYP into the 90s, then yardmaster between A, PSCC, and Q in Sunnyside. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!
First 4 minutes or so was at Bowie, MD. Then New Carrolton station (could hear aircraft taking off/landing at Andrews AFB, which is nearby in Forrestville, MD). Clearly showed the gauntlet track for running freight trains by the platform. Then Neabsco Creek at Hope Springs Marina on the RF&P near Woodbridge, VA when it still was the RF&P. The last couple of scenes looked like they were taken around Possum Point, near Quantico, VA on the RF&P. And if you wonder how I know, I worked as an attendant for Amtrak for 14 years out of DC, and then was a conductor and engineer for CSX for another nine out of Baltimore, and was a qualified engineer on the RF&P sub.
wow just look how far amtrak has come from the old gg1's to the new cities sprinters it is just amazing
Indeed!
That first train was definitely over the 110 limit for Heritage cars. Back in the day they would run them wide open to make up time. Spectacular K5LA music from that toaster as well. It’s a shame they don’t sound like that anymore.
Heritage and MHC equipment were restricted to 105 mph in consist. Same restriction was in place for the last car of train #94 in Chase crash 1/4/87.
I swear they appear to be going faster than than the ones today
bmp456 They probably were.. back then there were no computers in those engines. If you were late you sped up to make up time. I think. That what an old engineer told me
you can measure the speed pretty accurately since we know all the car lengths. Just pick a post and time how long it takes for the whole train to pass by that one spot.
That is due to the lower framerate of the video. They appear faster on film.
@@Trainmaster909 This isn’t film, this is video. Frame rate is 30fps up to 60 interpolated, just like today. Plus, sped up film is pretty obvious from the sound and appearance of people, etc. These trains really were going faster, it was still two years before Chase and the old school mentality of looking the other way and hauling ass was still alive and well.
VERY nice. The shots at Bowie were especially great!! No mistaking the husky sound of Pooches on he Auto Train. Also the F-40's were not only loud with their engines having to be a Notch 8 for HEP, their motors would always be screaming at speed too.
6:51 The good old days before RUclips when people actually enjoyed having home movie video taken of them and they didn't have Social Networking phobias to worry about.
Exactly!
*6:50
Hearing that "How'ya doin, there?" made me smile. ^_^
Amazing ! Fast trains 35 years ago. 1985 ☝️☝️👍⭐
That k5la at 0:32 was absolute music to my ears
Nice, I have the Walter Berko series of cab rides from Washington D.C. all the way up to Boston, awesome catches!
Very cool vid! Thanks! Those trains are cookin' down that track!
"Howya doin there chief?" Idk why, but that made my night
They weren't the locomotives involved in the chase Maryland tragedy were they that would really be eerie..
I wonder if either 900 or 903 showed up within one of these clips, as it was possible at this time.
Nice
That was filmed in February 26th 1985.
You mean that they had electric trains before the 90s? I thought it happened in the 1990s, at least for Boston!
Hey was that a freight comng around a curve at 8:48? load it up, let's see it.
How the quality of video recorders imporved!
Today at 7:10 we can't dare do that . You'll get yourself pulled out of service real quick.
Do what?
@@amtrak706 I'm sorry I meant at 6:45. The conductor hanging on to the car in the middle of the gauge. Out of Service.
@@thetrainguy1 Oh gotcha. So you can only protect a shove move like that by hanging on to the side step ladders?
Amtrak706 Depends on the car too. On a box car, yes you can only ride a shove on the ladder but if it was a hopper you could ride inside it.
Pretty sure some of those AEM-7s are going 130+
No doubt about it they were, especially the first train (with Heritage cars no less)! There’s even a cab ride clip in one of the early Pentrex NEC videos from this era of an AEM-7 speedometer hitting 130.
No AEM 7 would travel faster than 125 mph without tripping the overspend control required train brake application to slow down.
@@rene2072 ruclips.net/video/D7mbFiIH6-Q/видео.html 1:28 in this video shows the speedometer creeping up to 130 before the overspeed kicked in. It was set pretty high on some of these units.
@@amtrak706 None of the units I operated from 1981-2012 would operate that fast. FRA tried to say that nonsense 127 mph about train #94 before the crash at Chase January 1987. They rode with me from DC to Wilmington after the crash and admitted their tests of the speedometer were wrong.
@@rene2072 Did you happen to know or work with my father Lou/Louis/LC Swirsky? He was an engineer for Amtrak out of NYP into the 90s, then yardmaster between A, PSCC, and Q in Sunnyside. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!
Where were u filming this??????
First 4 minutes or so was at Bowie, MD. Then New Carrolton station (could hear aircraft taking off/landing at Andrews AFB, which is nearby in Forrestville, MD). Clearly showed the gauntlet track for running freight trains by the platform. Then Neabsco Creek at Hope Springs Marina on the RF&P near Woodbridge, VA when it still was the RF&P. The last couple of scenes looked like they were taken around Possum Point, near Quantico, VA on the RF&P. And if you wonder how I know, I worked as an attendant for Amtrak for 14 years out of DC, and then was a conductor and engineer for CSX for another nine out of Baltimore, and was a qualified engineer on the RF&P sub.
6:52 "Canadien National"
Bigmindcreator TenurSaxomophone LOL
It’s French.