Explore this some more! Take other gems out of context and see what happens. I can't make anything in normal life "mechanically regapped", but piston McNuggets obviously have their non-automotive counterpart. Makes you wonder what "forbidden glitter" would be...
I'm picturing the scene, when somebody put a 'good used' engine in their car/truck and it sounded like a nervous skeleton playing castanets in a metal filing cabinet. And then had a tool nightmare. It must've been 'one of those days' and then some. And I'm glad it wasn't me, for once.
in that 35 minutes i could have watched a million dollar per episode production from some critically acclaimed series but i am binge watching a guy tearing down engines and having much more fun. Probably because of the deadpan humor combined with the deep dive on how all these engines work
As an Owner of a 2008 First Edition Challenger SRT8, I can confirm that these are never involved in abuse, or even spirited driving..... (*** ding!!!***) Hold on, my BS detector just went off.....
Way back in the day I was doing a compression test on the KA in my 240sx. Everything was going smoothly, no binding, no crunching, no cross-threading, it was a beautiful Saturday afternoon. When I finished with Cyl 3 and began to take the tester out for number 4 something didn't feel right. The adapter had unscrewed from the hose and was still in the spark plug hole. I tried putting the hose back on, but that only further tightened the adapter in the plug hole. Queue 5 minutes of "F*ck"s interrupted by an occasional "Sh*t". As I was sitting in my folding chair contemplating if I could quickly source another KA or if I would be able to swing an SR at that time, I saw a little bottle of super glue sitting on the shelf. I knew I had one shot at the plan, and I had to be accurate and fast. I waited for everything to cool down, a drop of glue on the threads of the hose and straight in. I decided Cyl 4 had enough compression and did not need to be tested. The results were something like 150-145-155-Mmhmm. Plugs went back in for a successful test start and I went inside to change my underwear and call it a day. I'm still okay with the loss of my $35 Harbor Freight Compression Tester kit some 12 years on.
Good story man! 😅😅 Nice problem solving solution too, CA glue to the rescue! Ps: FYI - sprinkling baking soda on the CA glue will cure it instantly. 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩
@@tdotw77 That's a good tip to keep in my pocket if I need a quick set on the glue. In this case I needed time to get the adapter all the way on the hose. Any thoughts on extending the set time of super glue?
@@poohssmartbrother1146 Thanks Cuz. Remembering being a broke 19 year old with parents that don't like my hobby and in that situation still brings up a 850 yard stare on my face.
In Detroit area 99% of Charger RT, Challenger and Hellcats, Scatpacks have been beat to death. I live 2 miles from a large Chrysler dealer that I bought my 13 Daytona from. and last 7-8 years they were financing anyone. Guys making $15 a hour were getting approvals on $50k and up (my salesman is a friend and told me these tales) one Hellcat new owner leaving dealership with a $2000 a month payment. I see these young guys just absolutely beating these cars to death, doing donuts in intersection, they even block local freeways in Detroit for hijinks. I see quite a few Hemi cars at CoPart and local auctions, and they are expecting top dollar, "well all it needs is a engine, trans, rear gear and a front clip, a few interior pieces" was what one live auctioneer stated. My dodge has under 30k miles and I am a old man, but keep a work van or SUV in front of it in summer time and 3 years ago, on a Friday night on Southfield Freeway in Detroit I ended up with a bullet hole in drivers front fender, some young fella's wanting me to pull over.
We have the same thing in LA County. Most of the vehicles you mention have either gone to the junkyard or are sitting in the sheriff's impound lot. It's gotten a lot quieter of late
Nope, I sure didn't slap a 2.8LC Kenne Bell blower on my stock bottom end 2010 SRT8 and cracked it up to 8lbs of boost. Nope, I also don't rip burning figure-eights in Walmart parking lots until I'm on bare Alcoas. Only gets driven to church on Sundays for sure.
The lifter failures are by far associated with long times where the engine is sitting at idle. Which is why the failures are prevalent in work trucks with HIGH hours and low miles.
Dodge is the only vehicle I've driven that the oil pressure gauge would drop to a ¼ gauge at idle and rise to ¾ gauge at speed. My 4.7 with 200,000 miles like to drink oil. When oil pressure would only get to half on the gauge at speed I knew it was low😅
I know it's an old timers fix but seeing the Hemi with oil starvation issue's on the rear lifters , back in the day we would run steel tubing to oil starved areas and feed it externally. Kind of like sprinkler system in a garden I did a few in my day it may not be the "proper" way but it was cheap and it worked.
I very rarely watch commercials but I always try to let yours run . You provide an education and entertainment...I like to think I return a tiny bit by letting your commercials run all the way through so you get max benefit from me for all your time and money you put forth in these videos. Keep up the good work!
The fact that roller lifter failures are common on LS, LT, and Hemi engines, happens constantly with retrofit roller lifters as well as flat-tappet cams and lifters on old Ford, Mopar, and GM engines... but WASN'T common on Magnums, Ford 5.0s or Gen II SBCs (once those finally got roller lifters) tells me that something has gone horribly wrong with manufacturing of cams and lifters since about 2003.
or oiling. the race to ever thinner oils, possibly undersized passages, oil sludging or contamination, and there'd be now way for them to get cleared of any debris.
@@johnhufnagel but the failures happen with people who have reported using premium oils. The engine in this video is not one that calls for thin (eg 5w20) oil, but calls for a rather thick 0w40 (Mobil 1 0w40 was factory fill and recommended on the oil cap in those years, before Pennzoil Euro 0w40 became factory fill). And it had obviously been run on a premium oil, because it was spotlessly clean inside. I’m convinced that It’s entirely poor manufacturing by the cam manufacturers, the whole “it’s the low zinc oil!” thing is 100% bogus, a red herring.
That is the same question I ask myself. You are 100% correct lower idle oil pressure, 5w20-0w-40 oil weights longer change intervals. Maybe just bad part suppliers, to the manufacturers.
After seeing your video about the hemi engine and seeing other videos discussing oiling problems with hemi, I am so glad I got rid of my 2012 jeep grand Cherokee before it detonated.
This was caught pretty early, especially compared to mine. When I bought mine is was running on 6 and had begun to spall Everywhere on the cam. New cam, pushrods, lifters and cam bearings and ran good again. A wonderful bargain for $2k
Funny part is that I have seen people reuse used parts on many of engines. People I know would run that whole set up after a quick crank polish, hone the cylinders, and slap rings, bearings, valve seals and assembly time and run it for a couple three years till it makes noise again. Don't forget about the good used cam and lifters for the reassembly , my neighbor is running around in his work truck with a weekend slammed together with the used parts from the local pick a part and Facebook marketplace and it's holding up for now.
On the older Hemis, the windage tray went between the block and the pan, and had gaskets on both faces; looks like they just consolidated the assembly.
It's nothing to do with the camshaft position or the cylinder deactivation. It only started happening often once VVT was added. If it was the position of the camshaft then it would have happened more often in pre 2009 engines. It's not cylinder deactivation either. Stick shift cars with no cylinder deactivation also do it. The engine in this video wiped cylinder 8 which does not deactivate. My experience is high idle time vehicles do it all the time. Cop vehicles wipe camshafts all of time. I think the VVT was fitted on an oiling system that wasn't originally designed for it. Every time i do one of these I replace the oil pump with a high volume pump from a 6.2 hellcat. I think people blame the cylinder deactivation because it is actually a problem with LS LT engines.
30:26 This engine probably wouldn't have failed if oil still had zinc in it. Zinc is critical for older flat tappet engines to survive because it protects the lifters and cam lobes in them. Run a flat tappet engine without zinc in the oil and the cam wipes pretty fuckin' quick. But with zinc, they last for eons. This engine effectively became partially flat tappet when that roller quit rollering, so a good dose of zinc in the oil would have kept the roller and cam lobe from eating one another when that happened. It may also have helped avoid the roller failing in the first place.
In the background, sitting near the floor way to the left is what I believe is a Volkswagen VR6 at 1:05. That would be a fascinating engine to see taken apart! Great video!
Dodge should’ve recalled this issue. Those rollers lock up due to lack of lubricant. They should have went with a higher volume oil pump. To prevent this
My mechanical engineer Eric is correct 💯% again and this old man assembler/builder was correct and you are correct again. Caught early, this should be a great workable core for a good machine shop session and rebuilding to a great street strip runner.
Eric, I'm nearly as excited about you getting a good return on investment as I am seeing carnage during these teardowns. Good profits means these teardowns will be here for our viewing pleasure for a long time!
Mid week teardown?? What a treat. Pausing at exactly the 5:00 mark. I’m guessing it’s gonna be salvageable to the extent that you can sell the heads and upper assembly, and the crank and maybe oil pan. Guessing the cylinders and pistons left some deep scaring or worse from overheating
Things that I like about this channel is the opportunity to watch you tear down engines like I have never seen before. I am grateful for Rainman Ray for mentioning your channel. THANK YOU! 👩🦳
Over my extensive years in automotive servicing technology you can not do enough research on your or any vehicle as people buy them every year all manufacturers create untested ideas to implement into their vehicles and what I mean by untested is for longevity. Ultimately it takes a few years before a problem arises and on many occasions a good knowledgeable person who understands the basis of engine operation can devise a solution at home which trickles down the system before ending back at the manufacturer to realize there is a problem. On other occasions it is to costly and or problematic that the manufacturer has to enter an overall solution to correct and redesign for future purposes or abandon the design completely . Always be wary of new design or redesign mechanical upgrading and if your buying used vehicle"s always research vigorously any and all information you can to form your own assumption if it is ok to obtain. Just because it may be a problematic issue doesn't mean that somewhere there has been a correction to solve it and it becomes a really reliable piece of equipment there after and may be something you have no problem with on integrating whatever fix that turns it in to such.
Cool ! always a surprise to get one mid week --- love the show Sir, keep it up and dont change it, its one of the best you tube on -- stay safe and warm
Prevent of steps to take. Install drain plug with magnetic tip. If forbidden glitter “metal shavings” is on the drain plug. Time to inspect. I first thing cut oil filter open check for metal, second removed the VVT solenoid and check the metal screen for metal shavings. Oil I have used in my vehicles one of which was a hemi and never had engine problems until sold with 230k miles on it, was Valvoline synthetic blend. And the other is Castrol synthetic blend. Oil changes every 3-4k miles. Oil filters I recommend factor mopar oil filter, WiX and K&N
Nice video. I don't miss the water pump business. Your analysis, your diagnoses, your predictions of wat you'll find, general info on the engine type ... those make the channel. Discoveries like the broken tester in the head are sweeteners.
3:48 I expect worn piston skirts, worn valve train, and cylinder scuffing. The ram valve covers were probably just fitted to keep everything sealed off when processed at the scrapper
I actually got a compression tester stuck in there exactly the same way almost identical to this The way I got it out was I used a quarter drive torx bit and an extension and just hammered it into the compression tester threading Don't buy compression testers off of Amazon word of advice
@@petesmith5092 I had never actually tried to use one before this point and the threads were kind of boogered up in the first place I didn't actually screw it down all the way and yeah this was from a Amazon seller so yeah 🤣
My 86 vet tune port that I had worked on, hole engine is over 400 , can be wild ride ..................but be careful., hard to drive in rain ...................................
The bad cam /lifter starts off with a squeaky sound at idle. No tapping,if you catch it early the motor can be saved with new cam and lifters . But once it drops a cylinder,its done ,pull and rebuild or replace the engine.
Nice job. My valve covers are plastic, but they look different than those... Drivers side says "HEMI", Passenger side says "HEMI 6.1" on them... In the black plastic.... The "opinion" on the forums seems to be excessive idling is bad for these..... So even if you are barely driving your toy car, take it out once in awhile, and when you do, drop down a gear (after it's somewhat warm) and drive around with some revs in it.... Not that you are going crazy, but make sure you have some rpm, and oil is moving through the engine nicely.... And obviously never ever skimp on oil changes... 4000 miles or 6 months, whatever comes first....
Our shop got a reman 5.7 for a '15, from Chrysler, it had No heat tabs, anywhere, so when the exhaust rocker shaft bolts came loose, the pushrod fell down, and bent, Chrysler did not want to warranty it, despite their reman tag on the block. Went 800 miles before it started missing.
Oh, I am giddy and can’t wait for the tear down of the sneak peek. What a treat! I’m not well versed in that mfgr, but I’m guessing that might even be a turbo motor. Six and three quarters of joy.
I think it comes down to maintaining the engine I have a 6.1L hemi I do regular service on it an the transmission it's a good engine never let me down plenty of power very fun car to drive at the end of day all engines need TLC
As long as you don’t idle your hemi a ton it’s fine. All Chrysler push rod motors don’t make enough oil pressure to oil the cam at idle. I work on 6.4 hemi ambulances. They get lots of idle hours and always get this exact issue between 50k and 70k miles.
I feel like Chrysler could’ve eliminated this problem by just redesigning the piston oil squirters so that in addition to spraying the underside of the pistons, they put a little more oil on the cam and lifters. It seems like the easiest way of solving this problem.
Would you be able to spray oil from the piston squirter to the cam and/or lifter? I've never seen inside a Hemi in person but I would of thought that from the piston squirter to the cam/lifters would be obstructed by the block
The idea seems good but I do think the block has some obstruction. Plus there would be some possible windage issues. But it is a thought that I have had also.
About a year and a half ago Eric did another 6.1 Hemi tear down, titled “Worst Hemi Destruction Yet”. In that video Eric pulls the bottom end apart and leaves the cam in the block until the very end. If you watch that video from the about the 27 to the 28 minute mark you’ll be able to see that the block casting wouldn’t obstruct this. I also fail to see how this would create more of a windage problem over and above that which is created simply by having piston oil squirters. So far as I can tell all the versions of the current Hemi use the same parts to control windage, the same tray, the same oil drain passages in the block and heads, yet the heavy duty/high performance engines have squirters whilst the regular 5.7 does not.
Seems like a good idea to place a big speaker magnet on the oil pans of these engines. By shutting the engine down when the Hemi Tick develops, the magnet could save the internals
Mid week teardown = hump day awesome sauce. And something tells me the sneak peak is a rare find with a bad reputation. Don't want to give too much away. Lol
If you can get the plugs out of the AFM solenoid bores, their might be some rare earth magnets in the bottom. I know they're in their when the solenoids are in place. Usually furry with metal from the cam lobe. Good luck though, Usually have to destroy the solenoids and run a screw into the plastic to pull em out. Always stuck...
I do cars mid week YES brother.
Can I get a hell yeah brother?!?!
@@blakebritain9787Hell yeah, brother! May frequent oil changes be with you and deliver you from malice in the combustion palace.
Hell yea brother!
Hell ya brother
I did a bit of a double take... Is it Saturday? 😊
No chance Eric is making any money off this engine! I mean, why would you even buy a core engine missing the most important part... the water pump! 🤣🤣
I know those aluminum intake manifolds are worth some gold…
I would have bought that water pump
Buy an engine without a used water pump is a no no! Better is with a dip stick tube installed.
Good to know I didn't miss him chucking the water pump...
The chain... It's always the chain.
You need to explain to my wife why I described a recent upset stomach as "malice in the digestion palace".
@85NickT Couldn't help laughing at this comment, just caught me by surprise
Explore this some more! Take other gems out of context and see what happens.
I can't make anything in normal life "mechanically regapped", but piston McNuggets obviously have their non-automotive counterpart.
Makes you wonder what "forbidden glitter" would be...
Brilliant I may have to use this 😂
I'm picturing the scene, when somebody put a 'good used' engine in their car/truck and it sounded like a nervous skeleton playing castanets in a metal filing cabinet. And then had a tool nightmare. It must've been 'one of those days' and then some. And I'm glad it wasn't me, for once.
I did not have "skeleton playing castanets in a metal filing cabinet" on my bingo card for today. Excellent analogy sir. Consider it stolen.
Two skeletons making love on a tin roof is another oldie but goodie.😅
New lifters, new camshaft, a bit of sandblasting, new piston rings and bearings, oil pump, accessoires, gaskets ... You got there a good engine ...
in that 35 minutes i could have watched a million dollar per episode production from some critically acclaimed series but i am binge watching a guy tearing down engines and having much more fun. Probably because of the deadpan humor combined with the deep dive on how all these engines work
Win or Bin would be a great name for a series of I Do Cars episodes
As an Owner of a 2008 First Edition Challenger SRT8, I can confirm that these are never involved in abuse, or even spirited driving.....
(*** ding!!!***)
Hold on, my BS detector just went off.....
I have been watching these for a good few years now. They never fail. 😊 Eric, please never stop making this content. It's solid gold. ❤
But fortunetley the engines do...
It kind of sucks for him though. He has to spend the extra time to edit videos of engines with no value.
Way back in the day I was doing a compression test on the KA in my 240sx. Everything was going smoothly, no binding, no crunching, no cross-threading, it was a beautiful Saturday afternoon. When I finished with Cyl 3 and began to take the tester out for number 4 something didn't feel right. The adapter had unscrewed from the hose and was still in the spark plug hole. I tried putting the hose back on, but that only further tightened the adapter in the plug hole. Queue 5 minutes of "F*ck"s interrupted by an occasional "Sh*t".
As I was sitting in my folding chair contemplating if I could quickly source another KA or if I would be able to swing an SR at that time, I saw a little bottle of super glue sitting on the shelf. I knew I had one shot at the plan, and I had to be accurate and fast. I waited for everything to cool down, a drop of glue on the threads of the hose and straight in.
I decided Cyl 4 had enough compression and did not need to be tested. The results were something like 150-145-155-Mmhmm. Plugs went back in for a successful test start and I went inside to change my underwear and call it a day. I'm still okay with the loss of my $35 Harbor Freight Compression Tester kit some 12 years on.
Good story man! 😅😅 Nice problem solving solution too, CA glue to the rescue!
Ps: FYI - sprinkling baking soda on the CA glue will cure it instantly. 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩
That was a tale for the ages!
@@tdotw77 That's a good tip to keep in my pocket if I need a quick set on the glue. In this case I needed time to get the adapter all the way on the hose. Any thoughts on extending the set time of super glue?
@@poohssmartbrother1146 Thanks Cuz. Remembering being a broke 19 year old with parents that don't like my hobby and in that situation still brings up a 850 yard stare on my face.
Some kind of lesson in there about buying hacktastic garbage from harbor freight
In Detroit area 99% of Charger RT, Challenger and Hellcats, Scatpacks have been beat to death. I live 2 miles from a large Chrysler dealer that I bought my 13 Daytona from. and last 7-8 years they were financing anyone. Guys making $15 a hour were getting approvals on $50k and up (my salesman is a friend and told me these tales) one Hellcat new owner leaving dealership with a $2000 a month payment. I see these young guys just absolutely beating these cars to death, doing donuts in intersection, they even block local freeways in Detroit for hijinks. I see quite a few Hemi cars at CoPart and local auctions, and they are expecting top dollar, "well all it needs is a engine, trans, rear gear and a front clip, a few interior pieces" was what one live auctioneer stated. My dodge has under 30k miles and I am a old man, but keep a work van or SUV in front of it in summer time and 3 years ago, on a Friday night on Southfield Freeway in Detroit I ended up with a bullet hole in drivers front fender, some young fella's wanting me to pull over.
Oh wow! I'm glad I live far, far away from Detroit. Still in MI, though.
We have the same thing in LA County. Most of the vehicles you mention have either gone to the junkyard or are sitting in the sheriff's impound lot. It's gotten a lot quieter of late
"What are you doing, honey? Want to meet up for lunch?"
"Can't. Watching a dude rip a motor apart".
"Oh".
That's not bad !!!! I'm watching train videos!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great video, Eric. That camshaft is known as a "hamburger cam." Because it's "ground round." Keep up the great work.
Nope, I sure didn't slap a 2.8LC Kenne Bell blower on my stock bottom end 2010 SRT8 and cracked it up to 8lbs of boost. Nope, I also don't rip burning figure-eights in Walmart parking lots until I'm on bare Alcoas. Only gets driven to church on Sundays for sure.
Suuuuuuuuuuure 😉
😅😮See, I knew it existed somewhere! 😂😂😂⚡🔥💥💨💨😎👍🏻👌🏻🏎️🚦🏎️🚧
Even in this state you'll sell those parts and make money. 6.1 blocks are becoming gold.
1:28 I was just thinking, "The sarcasm is thick with this one today..."
Apparently Eric couldn't keep a straight face any longer. 😁
Unfortunately, the waterpump is missing, too 😂
Probably in orbit
I would have bought that perfectly good water pump
The lifter failures are by far associated with long times where the engine is sitting at idle.
Which is why the failures are prevalent in work trucks with HIGH hours and low miles.
And HEMI Charger police cars.
Dodge is the only vehicle I've driven that the oil pressure gauge would drop to a ¼ gauge at idle and rise to ¾ gauge at speed. My 4.7 with 200,000 miles like to drink oil. When oil pressure would only get to half on the gauge at speed I knew it was low😅
these engines were a riot. in a challenger you didnt even realize you would be doing 100 because it was so effortless.
I know it's an old timers fix but seeing the Hemi with oil starvation issue's on the rear lifters , back in the day we would run steel tubing to oil starved areas and feed it externally. Kind of like sprinkler system in a garden I did a few in my day it may not be the "proper" way but it was cheap and it worked.
I think you should have gone through the motions of removing and disposing of the water pump, even if it wasn't there.
Ooh, a mime! :)
I very rarely watch commercials but I always try to let yours run . You provide an education and entertainment...I like to think I return a tiny bit by letting your commercials run all the way through so you get max benefit from me for all your time and money you put forth in these videos. Keep up the good work!
The fact that roller lifter failures are common on LS, LT, and Hemi engines, happens constantly with retrofit roller lifters as well as flat-tappet cams and lifters on old Ford, Mopar, and GM engines... but WASN'T common on Magnums, Ford 5.0s or Gen II SBCs (once those finally got roller lifters) tells me that something has gone horribly wrong with manufacturing of cams and lifters since about 2003.
or oiling.
the race to ever thinner oils, possibly undersized passages, oil sludging or contamination, and there'd be now way for them to get cleared of any debris.
@@johnhufnagel but the failures happen with people who have reported using premium oils. The engine in this video is not one that calls for thin (eg 5w20) oil, but calls for a rather thick 0w40 (Mobil 1 0w40 was factory fill and recommended on the oil cap in those years, before Pennzoil Euro 0w40 became factory fill). And it had obviously been run on a premium oil, because it was spotlessly clean inside. I’m convinced that It’s entirely poor manufacturing by the cam manufacturers, the whole “it’s the low zinc oil!” thing is 100% bogus, a red herring.
Lifters fail first; that destroys the cam. Lifters are the issue
That is the same question I ask myself. You are 100% correct
lower idle oil pressure, 5w20-0w-40 oil weights longer change intervals.
Maybe just bad part suppliers, to the manufacturers.
After seeing your video about the hemi engine and seeing other videos discussing oiling problems with hemi, I am so glad I got rid of my 2012 jeep grand Cherokee before it detonated.
This was caught pretty early, especially compared to mine. When I bought mine is was running on 6 and had begun to spall Everywhere on the cam. New cam, pushrods, lifters and cam bearings and ran good again. A wonderful bargain for $2k
Funny part is that I have seen people reuse used parts on many of engines. People I know would run that whole set up after a quick crank polish, hone the cylinders, and slap rings, bearings, valve seals and assembly time and run it for a couple three years till it makes noise again. Don't forget about the good used cam and lifters for the reassembly , my neighbor is running around in his work truck with a weekend slammed together with the used parts from the local pick a part and Facebook marketplace and it's holding up for now.
A few pits in the bore will hold oil but the grooves in the rear main may be a problem !!!
On the older Hemis, the windage tray went between the block and the pan, and had gaskets on both faces; looks like they just consolidated the assembly.
It's nothing to do with the camshaft position or the cylinder deactivation. It only started happening often once VVT was added. If it was the position of the camshaft then it would have happened more often in pre 2009 engines. It's not cylinder deactivation either. Stick shift cars with no cylinder deactivation also do it. The engine in this video wiped cylinder 8 which does not deactivate. My experience is high idle time vehicles do it all the time. Cop vehicles wipe camshafts all of time. I think the VVT was fitted on an oiling system that wasn't originally designed for it. Every time i do one of these I replace the oil pump with a high volume pump from a 6.2 hellcat. I think people blame the cylinder deactivation because it is actually a problem with LS LT engines.
I thought the problem might have been with poor quality lifters on the later models.
Your videos never fail to make me want to change my oil
30:26 This engine probably wouldn't have failed if oil still had zinc in it. Zinc is critical for older flat tappet engines to survive because it protects the lifters and cam lobes in them. Run a flat tappet engine without zinc in the oil and the cam wipes pretty fuckin' quick. But with zinc, they last for eons. This engine effectively became partially flat tappet when that roller quit rollering, so a good dose of zinc in the oil would have kept the roller and cam lobe from eating one another when that happened.
It may also have helped avoid the roller failing in the first place.
In the background, sitting near the floor way to the left is what I believe is a Volkswagen VR6 at 1:05. That would be a fascinating engine to see taken apart!
Great video!
Oh man, a WEDNESDAY tear down??!! You just made my mid-week Eric! 😁👍👍
Midweek teardown for the win!!
Dodge should’ve recalled this issue. Those rollers lock up due to lack of lubricant. They should have went with a higher volume oil pump. To prevent this
I love the show bc you usually let me know things to look for with concerns or manufacturer defects. Keep it up. Veteran Here. Thank You so much
64 year old man from Missouri and I like and enjoy your videos!
My mechanical engineer Eric is correct 💯% again and this old man assembler/builder was correct and you are correct again. Caught early, this should be a great workable core for a good machine shop session and rebuilding to a great street strip runner.
I can only imagine the words said when that pressure tester fitting got stuck, and then the eazy out. I bet tools were thrown.
Probably so, but he didn’t throw the eazy out 😂
"Kid, where did you learn to cuss like that?"
"I held the flashlight for dad..."
I love the plastic wrapped engine. Its like an alien pod in a sci fi movie.
Ya gotta put zinc in the oil. I use about 3oz of lucas assembly lube on my 5.7 since about 70k got 160k on it now and it purrs like a kitten.
Fantastic to get an extra video this week!
And very glad you did well out of this engine. Thanks Eric :)
Eric, I'm nearly as excited about you getting a good return on investment as I am seeing carnage during these teardowns. Good profits means these teardowns will be here for our viewing pleasure for a long time!
Mid week teardown?? What a treat.
Pausing at exactly the 5:00 mark. I’m guessing it’s gonna be salvageable to the extent that you can sell the heads and upper assembly, and the crank and maybe oil pan.
Guessing the cylinders and pistons left some deep scaring or worse from overheating
What a great surprise! Thanks Eric, so appreciated. 😀😀😀
Things that I like about this channel is the opportunity to watch you tear down engines like I have never seen before. I am grateful for Rainman Ray for mentioning your channel. THANK YOU! 👩🦳
Always fun dude! Thanks for the show 😊
Thank you for your community service and education.
Smoked like a brisket on the Fourth of July that is a fabulous line
Could you please show us the difference between a heat tab and triggered heat tab
Maybe a demonstration...
Thanks!
"It bottomed out."
This was the only time Eric has ever heard those words.
Me to. 😢
Over my extensive years in automotive servicing technology you can not do enough research on your or any vehicle as people buy them every year all manufacturers create untested ideas to implement into their vehicles and what I mean by untested is for longevity. Ultimately it takes a few years before a problem arises and on many occasions a good knowledgeable person who understands the basis of engine operation can devise a solution at home which trickles down the system before ending back at the manufacturer to realize there is a problem. On other occasions it is to costly and or problematic that the manufacturer has to enter an overall solution to correct and redesign for future purposes or abandon the design completely . Always be wary of new design or redesign mechanical upgrading and if your buying used vehicle"s always research vigorously any and all information you can to form your own assumption if it is ok to obtain. Just because it may be a problematic issue doesn't mean that somewhere there has been a correction to solve it and it becomes a really reliable piece of equipment there after and may be something you have no problem with on integrating whatever fix that turns it in to such.
Sneakypeek looks like a fun one too!
I am learning watching these videos. Thank you
love your videos. learn a lot about engines i've never ran or worked on. keep them coming!
Cool ! always a surprise to get one mid week --- love the show Sir, keep it up and dont change it, its one of the best you tube on -- stay safe and warm
I love watching these because you just never know what you will find. Thank you Eric for making such awesome videos for all of us!
Prevent of steps to take. Install drain plug with magnetic tip. If forbidden glitter “metal shavings” is on the drain plug. Time to inspect. I first thing cut oil filter open check for metal, second removed the VVT solenoid and check the metal screen for metal shavings.
Oil I have used in my vehicles one of which was a hemi and never had engine problems until sold with 230k miles on it, was Valvoline synthetic blend. And the other is Castrol synthetic blend. Oil changes every 3-4k miles. Oil filters I recommend factor mopar oil filter, WiX and K&N
😀😁 There is no water pump to throw.... Oh My. Thanks!
Nice video. I don't miss the water pump business. Your analysis, your diagnoses, your predictions of wat you'll find, general info on the engine type ... those make the channel. Discoveries like the broken tester in the head are sweeteners.
A bonus teardown this week! Thanks Eric!
Ooh, the sneak peak at the end has Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection! I love those systems!!
Great timing!! Glad you hit the sweet spot on this weird treasure trove❤
It’s always a treat to get a midweek video
3:48 I expect worn piston skirts, worn valve train, and cylinder scuffing.
The ram valve covers were probably just fitted to keep everything sealed off when processed at the scrapper
Thank you. Enjoy your work and always learn something.
That one piston was singing some Depeche Mode clean the cleanest I've been since I was put in
Eric, those heads are the eagle series heads. They have the cast in ridge that separates the intake and exhaust valves. Late model stuff.
I always root for you to hit the jackpot.
Interesting, thanks for the bonus teardown video. 👍
Currently at lunch at the body shop right now, perfect timing
I actually got a compression tester stuck in there exactly the same way almost identical to this The way I got it out was I used a quarter drive torx bit and an extension and just hammered it into the compression tester threading Don't buy compression testers off of Amazon word of advice
My Home Made tester was welded together, now I know why. An old spark plug, a piece of square tube and a hose tail magic.
A word of advice, don't screw your compression tester in so tight that it breaks off trying to get it out.... and, buy one from a reputable source✌️
@@petesmith5092 I had never actually tried to use one before this point and the threads were kind of boogered up in the first place I didn't actually screw it down all the way and yeah this was from a Amazon seller so yeah 🤣
Thanks Eric, made my mid-week.
WOW. That cam damage is a first for the channel.
Also, NICEEE hookup for the future teardown.
It looks really classic, but I couldn't identify it. Did you know what it was?
@@edifyguy Yep, its a Bentley engine!!!
@@edifyguy It's a mid-late 80s Bentley "six and three-quarter litre" V8
These videos convinces me that you cannot go wrong bying used parts from this guy!
My 86 vet tune port that I had worked on, hole engine is over 400 , can be wild ride ..................but be careful., hard to drive in rain ...................................
The bad cam /lifter starts off with a squeaky sound at idle. No tapping,if you catch it early the motor can be saved with new cam and lifters . But once it drops a cylinder,its done ,pull and rebuild or replace the engine.
aww, someone already chucked the water pump lol
*sticks around for the final bit* oh dear lord
Nice job.
My valve covers are plastic, but they look different than those... Drivers side says "HEMI", Passenger side says "HEMI 6.1" on them... In the black plastic....
The "opinion" on the forums seems to be excessive idling is bad for these.....
So even if you are barely driving your toy car, take it out once in awhile, and when you do, drop down a gear (after it's somewhat warm) and drive around with some revs in it.... Not that you are going crazy, but make sure you have some rpm, and oil is moving through the engine nicely....
And obviously never ever skimp on oil changes... 4000 miles or 6 months, whatever comes first....
Rare engine by this days!
That’s head’s for the 5.7 guys a must!!
Our shop got a reman 5.7 for a '15, from Chrysler, it had No heat tabs, anywhere, so when the exhaust rocker shaft bolts came loose, the pushrod fell down, and bent, Chrysler did not want to warranty it, despite their reman tag on the block. Went 800 miles before it started missing.
A tasty hemi deconstruction after work. Life's good 👍
Oh, I am giddy and can’t wait for the tear down of the sneak peek. What a treat! I’m not well versed in that mfgr, but I’m guessing that might even be a turbo motor. Six and three quarters of joy.
Heck yeah just what I needed after work a good ole video. 😎
I think it comes down to maintaining the engine I have a 6.1L hemi I do regular service on it an the transmission it's a good engine never let me down plenty of power very fun car to drive at the end of day all engines need TLC
Stoked about the Bently 6.75!! I have always thought that would be an awesome torque bomb to swap into a Suburban or something nuts like that.
4:07 Valve train damage and noise from being over revved and slaps
These videos always make me want to do cam & lifters on my 5.7, especially since it's coming up on 150k
As long as you don’t idle your hemi a ton it’s fine. All Chrysler push rod motors don’t make enough oil pressure to oil the cam at idle. I work on 6.4 hemi ambulances. They get lots of idle hours and always get this exact issue between 50k and 70k miles.
@@basshead993When will people learn their lessons on not buying hemis, this issue is not going to get better.
@@basshead993 Its interesting to see how much more oil pressure they make even just 100 RPM over idle.
That's why I flog my Durango daily, no mercy given. I'm at 150k miles so far with amsoil at 3k intervals.
Ive heard its usually the pushrod oil passages getting clogged and that you just have to make sure you use a good filter @basshead993
Good to see you will be making a few bucks on this one. Keep up the good work.
I feel like Chrysler could’ve eliminated this problem by just redesigning the piston oil squirters so that in addition to spraying the underside of the pistons, they put a little more oil on the cam and lifters. It seems like the easiest way of solving this problem.
Would you be able to spray oil from the piston squirter to the cam and/or lifter? I've never seen inside a Hemi in person but I would of thought that from the piston squirter to the cam/lifters would be obstructed by the block
The idea seems good but I do think the block has some obstruction. Plus there would be some possible windage issues.
But it is a thought that I have had also.
About a year and a half ago Eric did another 6.1 Hemi tear down, titled “Worst Hemi Destruction Yet”. In that video Eric pulls the bottom end apart and leaves the cam in the block until the very end. If you watch that video from the about the 27 to the 28 minute mark you’ll be able to see that the block casting wouldn’t obstruct this.
I also fail to see how this would create more of a windage problem over and above that which is created simply by having piston oil squirters. So far as I can tell all the versions of the current Hemi use the same parts to control windage, the same tray, the same oil drain passages in the block and heads, yet the heavy duty/high performance engines have squirters whilst the regular 5.7 does not.
@@09corvettezr1 it’s a good idea. The factor should have done something to remedy this problem.
We like to see you win now and then Eric, otherwise there goes the business and, with it, the channel we all love. 😉
Wooo hoooo! Was not expecting a midweek.
This is exactly what i needed today
Seems like a good idea to place a big speaker magnet on the oil pans of these engines. By shutting the engine down when the Hemi Tick develops, the magnet could save the internals
Another mid-week! You are spoiling us!
Mid week teardown = hump day awesome sauce.
And something tells me the sneak peak is a rare find with a bad reputation. Don't want to give too much away. Lol
Great video as always, would love to see a VW 2.5 5 cylinder if you can get one.
I second that motion.
3rd that motion
If you can get the plugs out of the AFM solenoid bores, their might be some rare earth magnets in the bottom. I know they're in their when the solenoids are in place. Usually furry with metal from the cam lobe.
Good luck though, Usually have to destroy the solenoids and run a screw into the plastic to pull em out. Always stuck...
One of the best content up in this mug. Keep it up
to me ole blue is the star of the show and needs to be in a place of prominence
Mid Week? Madness! THANKS! - He so - no more parts washer before & afters? that was pretty interesting...